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Two words, and they're not "win cap": Richie Harrington (aka Best QB on the Roster)! Richie was slinging it like back in the old days on YouTube.

Sorry Duckies. I believe in German they call this "schadenfreude". No worries, with Chip & Riley at their respective helms you'll always get the last laugh.

239 COMMENTS

  1. What a wonderfully weird day. USC falls to UCLA. Nike falls to Standford. K-State gets the crap beat out of them. And, we pile on points winning by more then a touchdown.

    I actually think we have a chance to beat Nike this year. We had Standford beat but lost the game ourselves through fumble, etc.

  2. I was wondering, if we beat the holes and Stanford beats UCLA twice would we be # 2 in PAC12. Would 10-2 be good enough for a BCS bowl? If we click on all cylinders next week we certainly have a chance. I was just hoping it would be the Beavers to knock the Ducks out. But it would be nice to put the Ducks down to # 3 or 4.

  3. Had a great time at the game of course. Been practicing my gangnam style dance so when the 4th hit I was all over it. You ain’t seen nothing as pathetic as a 41 year old fat, bald guy schooling the student section on that dance move!

    Someone needs to check on BeavGoph too, that game didn’t turn out for him very well.

  4. Been saying it for a couple weeks and now I’m shouting it, Terron Ward should be our starter. He hits the hole quicker, covers the ball up, and runs with anger. I like both Woods and Agnew, but Ward should be our #1.

    • Who is this “Terron Ward” you speak of? And why would someone only offered by OSU after signing day of his senior year in high school be worth this conversation?

      Oops! Does my second question make the first obsolete?

      • Gotta love Ward and the fact the ducks didn’t even give him the slightest sniff despite his brother, TJ. He has got to get some carries because you know he he is going to bring everything he has.

        • It makes me wonder how much weight a coach gives a guy for his in-game performance versus his practice performance?
          Woods and Agnew must be killing it in practice over Ward but how do you argue with his performance when it matters most?
          Anyone who has attended practices see how much Ward gets with the ones?

  5. Kleenex are in short supply in Eugene today. Great Beaver game but not up against same caliber team next week. Can Riley be aggressive the whole game? Can offense stay on the field and score 7 against the ucks? If not, our defense will tire and we would be screwed. The offense has to make solid drives to keep our defense rested. Once you get ahead the ucks feathers get ruffled and they mentally fall apart. They are at our house, lets win this one.

    • We have to be able to run the ball on the ucks to win. Our defense is good… Poyer was a beast last night! The ucks haven’t faced a good defense since Stanford (you get my point – held them to 14 pts). We put up 23 points on the #1 defense (Stanford). We beat Cal way more soundly then the ucks did. Our guys are hungry with something to prove, ucks are depressed and on their heels. We can win…. WE CAN WIN BABY!

    • yes they are all crying in their clown suits. Presleydog feels very bad for hole fans as they cancel their reservations for Miami. So terrible…

  6. Oh… and I had a good chuckle when Chipster got the 15 yard penalty for his choice language with the refs… over an illegal receiver downfield.

    I turned to my wife and said, “Next he’ll be complaining about Stanford’s wide receivers and how much they hold.”

    She didn’t find that funny.

  7. Mannion played with alot of fire last night and looked good. The gamplan was on all night and the running game was never forgotten. I even loved the way Riley was talking about aggressiveness during his interview before halftime. Riley was talking about all the exposure OSU is getting through the Pac-12 Networks before the game and recruits telling him they have been watching us play and I think he is doing a better job of realizing that people are watching and making lasting impressions matters. It also looked like the whole team cared about getting the very best bowl possible. We have a strong chance for the Alamo Bowl now and probably would get the Fiesta with a win over Oregon.

    Oregon State Smushes California:
    http://beaverbyte.com

    • And how the hell does the team they beat (UCLA) pass them in the polls? It’s almost like the coaches are assuming the Ducks slaughter the Beavs next Saturday, yet they think UCLA beats Stanford?

      Coaches….heads up….OSU BEAT UCLA in head to head competiton. What more do you need?

  8. Anyone notice Lache Seastrunk’s big game for Baylor?

    I think USC is going to beat Notre Dame next week. I expect UO to win the CW, and won’t be surprised if UCLA beats Stanford.

    • Is Barkley going to be ready to play? I think I will be rooting for ND (I don’t want to root for either of them really) because I’m thinking a ND loss gives The Quacks a slight opening for the championship game if they beat the Beavs. Otherwise, it’s going to be ND vs Bama/Georgin winner, right? If the Ducks somehow got back in and god forbid won the thing, I would have to live with insufferable Duck fans forever.

      • Yes, surely there is still a chance for UO for the NC game if they beat us ND is sure lucking out. Comeon, god, give the rest of us a break…

  9. I’m checking bowl projections and trying to be realistic about the BCS improbability for the Beavs. Does the Holiday Bowl against West Virginia excite anyone? That’s assuming WVU beats Iowa St and Kansas. Might be interesting to see how the Beavs do against Geno Smith.

  10. Looking at the UO box score is impressive. Mariotta has 12 rushes for 89 yards with a long of 77. Obviously well contained on the other 11. Barner held to 3.1 ypc, DAT about 6.

    I don’t expect Banker to do as well next week with his defense. Also, UO should have a lot left to play for given all of the 1 loss teams out there.

    • It has to be “Richie Football” according to Angry, right? I go with Mannion, but it worries me. He could have had three picks yesterday. Stop predetermining where you are going to go with the football!

      Logistically, doesn’t it have to be Mannion in the end for the next two plus seasons? Are you going to sit him until 2014 when he’s a senior? I don’t see it. Do you go with a two QB continuing controversy next year?

      • I just don’t get the weak throws. He needs to work on his core strength and arm this offseason. The potential INTs are bothersome obviously, but with Woods/Ward providing balance, I think Mannion gives OSU the best chance. I don’t think Vaz sees the field as well, and remember UO batting down 8-9 passes against OSU not too long ago. Yes, there are successful qb’s as tall, or short, as Vaz, but I think Vaz has trouble seeing the field at this level, and he commonly throws ugly passes too.

        • No that one is on Prince…probably why that was the last target he saw all day.

          Next year I expect we’ll see the Hamlett/Smith show at TE, and I like that combo. We’ll really miss Wheaton, but I expect the offense to be significantly improved nonetheless.

          The million dollar question is whether or not we can plug holes on D

          • Yeah Poyer will be tough to replace. Martin has looked better though. DT and MLB will be key . Neither positions has been that amazing so it shouldn’t be that tough to replace them but you never know.

      • The answer is obvious, but I’m seeing praise for Mannion, for example, Cliff gave him an A, but there were plenty of poor throws last night and 2 ints (if not 3) that were dropped. If the Beavs defense comes out like it did in the first quarter last night against the Ducks, and Mannion makes that many bad throws, Beavs will be in a big hole at halftime.

          • Grasping at straws? I don’t know about that. I’m just saying there were mistakes made that Cal didn’t capitalize on in the first half, and if the same mistakes are made against the Ducks, they’ll turn those into possessions, drives, and points.

    • …against Alonso, and it could be done today if Vettel takes clean air for the start. I was watching qualifying yesterday, and those corners are tight after some really long straights. It looks like a sweet track though.

      • I watch all the F1 races on tivo Sunday nights.
        My cuz and I went to the Montreal race last year and made noises about hitting this Texas race. I decided against it thinking the live fan experience would probably suck due to them hastily completing the facility. Fan comfort/fun always comes last.
        Will consider going next year depending on beaver football game conflicts.
        Now leave me alone while I watch the race, and don’t spoil it for me!

      • I really considered heading to Austin but the ticket prices made me reconsider and all the “green” stuff convinced me not to go. It’s an f’ing auto race, how green is that?

  11. Oregon averaged something like 3 yards a carry on 39 runs against Stanford (omitting Mariota’s 77 yard run in the first quarter). I was at Reser last night, and didn’t tape the Ducks game, so I have no clue how Stanford managed to shut down the Ducks’ offense.

    Mariota said after the game that Stanford “showed some different fronts and then were dropping out of it…That didn’t leave too many holes.” Was that it? Was Stanford doing other things that flummoxed Kelly and the Ducks? Has Stanford shown the world — finally — how to stop the Ducks’ running attack? Can Oregon State use the Stanford game plan as a blueprint for the Civil War, and have a reasonable chance of stopping the Duck offense?

    • Ducks did the same thing that OSU did. They stopped running right at Stanford and tried to pick and cutesy the edges. They run right at them, and they get 8,9,12 yards. They run/pass to the edges, and they get 3 on a great effort.

      • So Stanford was not doing anything new and different — in terms of schemes or techniques or personnel — to stymie the Duck running attack? It was just bad play calling by Chip Kelly?

          • Agree, I saw numerous 1:1 tackles where the Stanford player did a textbook job of wrapping up.

            Other than that the ability of Stanford to disrupt things in the backfield and bring down the ball carrier at -1 to +2 yds seemed key to me.

        • I don’t know so much about the play calls themselves since it’s all option. Mariota looked confused quite a bit. But what he didn’t trust were the calls that produced. He chose lower percentage plays that usually work against other teams. So it wouldn’t be so much the play-calling as much as it was just poor preparation for what Stanford does.

          It also looked like Stanford was forcing the QB to keep the ball on his reads by keying on Barner when he was in. They were fine with Mariota beating them, but they weren’t going to let Barner run free.

  12. I wonder whether Marky B will be looking at what Cal did for a half and Stanford did for two halves to stop UO?
    Probably has better things to do.

    • Yep,…. if we are to start beating the ducks, now is the time., We have the Cal and stanford examples to work with, a good D to execute it, an offense that can put up points, we are riding a high, and the ducks might be a little down (lol).

      I would think that Riley started scheming to beat them once Kelley showed his stuff. Surely that is sufficiently developed by now….

  13. Is there ANY benefit to playing the Nicholls State game? Does the extra win help in a bowl placement? I see some of the SEC teams playing fluff this past weekend and its just kind of amazes me that they’re doing it this late in the season.

    I don’t think 9-3 is better than 8-3 (assuming CW loss). Particularly an 8-3 that has no fluff on the schedule – Wiscy and BYU as out-of-conference is respectable. OSU had a strange start to the season with an early bye, and hasn’t had a break since. I think the thing to do would be to cancel Nicholls State game this week, and then let the players rest and prep for whatever bowl game awaits. I understand it would cost OSU $400K, but that seems better than playing a pointless game and risking any injuries.

    Plus, it would remove the risk of OSU looking past UO to Nicholls State….

    • If the Beavs beat the Ducks there is some notice nationally for going into a bowl game with ten wins and then eleven gets you a pretty nice season ending ranking if they win a bowl game Nicholls is a really bad team even by FCS standards some hopefully the starters are done by halftime, but I get your point, it is a “pointless” game now. I think it was kept on the schedule as a Riley “security blanket” to get to 6-6 and a bowl game originally. It no longer has a purpose except maybe to beautify the W/L record.

      • I have to think it is very important to national perception. A 9 win season is better than an 8 win season. I think folks will just look at the win total and not notice the loss number. Who the hell is going to know we played no fluff? Almost no one.

    • I don’t know what the practice restrictions after regular season are, but I have heard others make the case the game will get us an extra week of practice. Which is always welcome, and one of the benefits of bowl eligibility.

  14. I know the writing on College Football News is all over the place, and often error-ridden, but I think the article belowis funny in that, essentially, people act all upset when, dammit, the teams decide on the field who wins, and it doesn’t fit with subjective rankings, predictions, and favoritism. Then all of the extreme criticisms come out:

    “Kansas State, ranked No. 1 in the latest BCS rankings, was finally exposed for being the marginally talented team that it is, getting its doors blown off by a Baylor squad that came into the game with a high-octane offense and a defense ranking dead last in all of college football.

    Meanwhile, No. 2 Oregon and its tippy-tappy finesse attack, and a running game that doesn’t work against great defenses with talented front sevens that can get into the backfield, lost in overtime to a Stanford team with a great defense and a talented front seven that came into the game leading the nation in tackles for loss. ”

    Yup, Chip Kelly, with his tippy-tappy offense, lost AGAIN. For the seventh time. In four years.

    http://cfn.scout.com/2/1241180.html

    • I liked CFN a lot before it became part of Scout or whatever it is now. It was required reading in the dial up days and it was a committment to follow it because that site took forever to load!

    • How many teams with great defenses has Oregon beaten since Chip Kelly became head coach? Think it’s zero. Their offense puts up huge #’s against horrible and mediocre defenses, people go crazy and when they finally play a good-great defense the offense looks okay but nothing special anymore.

      • i’d have to go back and check – I would think there were a few “good” Pac-12 defenses (USC?). But I know Riley has lost to many defenses that aren’t great and sometimes not even good. And when Kelly loses to good to great defenses, the games remain competitive.

        • I know Riley has lost to many defenses that aren’t great and sometimes not even good

          Seriously.
          It just happened. Washington was ranked in the 110s I believe. Pretty sure Sac State didn’t have a good defense, either.

          There are many examples.

      • Well, they killed Stanford the past few years, and they had a good to great defense.
        Also some lopsided wins vs USC.

        Outside of the SEC, there aren’t many great college defenses. It’s why Chip’s strategy is so successful. They’ve also scheduled easier non-con games over the past couple years.

        Anyone would want 7 losses in 4 years so it’s pointless to criticize Oregon and sounds like sour grapes. If the offense is so gimmicky then stop it. If few can stop it, then it’s a good offense.

  15. I hope Riley calls all the players and coaches together to watch the Stanford/Oregon game. There’s a lot to learn from what Stanford did and how to stop Oregon. As mentioned, Stanford did some excellent tackling and we have to do the same. Go for the legs, not the body. Wining the CW depends on how Riley prepares his coaches and team for the game.

  16. Stanford just brought physicality and penetration. Mariotta danced to buy more time and Stanford’s secondary held solid. They didn’t have an opporunity to hold due to the penetration. They ran the ball well and Hogan is a huge improvement over Nunes.

    Not sure on the QB for the civil war. Mannion put up some nice numbers but made a few bad decisions that should have been picks and had some of those flutter balls. Vaz is going to get some balls knocked down and doesn’t got through his progressions as quickly, but is much more mobile. Comparing Vaz at Stanford’s d and Mannion against Cal isn’t really fair. Its really a tough call.

    • Vaz has thrown a lot of questionable passes, he just got even more lucky on his throws. Give me a QB who can consistently hit open receivers over a QB who throws constantly behind receivers any day. Also, Mannion protects the ball when he feels he’s going to be sacked, Vaz holds the ball like a loaf of bread. I’ll take a slower, more accurate QB with better pocket presence over the more mobile, sometimes erratic QB who doesn’t protect the football under pressure. Mannion is the far superior QB.

    • How is Vaz mobile? I don’t get that…

      Neither QB can manage anything more than a brisk walk. Neither has EVER scrambled as far as I can remember.

      However, one of Mannion’s best strengths (pocket presence and the ability to sidestep blitzers) is one of Vaz’s big weaknesses.

        • Like Moevao or Katz?

          If you look back, they both had games where they kept drives alive with their legs,only to have Riley clamp down on them and force them to stay in the pocket and take sacks.

          Luck and now Hogan are perfect examples of athletic QBs in pro style offense. They don’t run spread offense but there are designed QB runs and it’s understood that if the play breaks down and the run is there they take it.

          I doubt Riley will ever make that adjustment regardless of who he has at QB.

  17. Any updates anywhere on Cooks/Anderson/Andrews? Saw them all get injured yesterday but haven’t seen what happened.

    Man, sitting in the upper deck in the 3rd quarter rain blizzard was pretty nuts. Luckily, some friends sitting on the old side told us they had extra tix next to them under cover so we got to move.

    Anybody else notice Tedford giving Riley the cold shoulder after the game? Didn’t even look him in the eyes, just walked off as soon as they met a midfield.

  18. This is what I think would work best for an elite college Top 64 league. They are well balanced so you could do a playoff with set conference matchups of based on that years Conference Power Rankings (1 vs 4, 2 vs 3)

    Pac-16
    West
    USC
    UCLA
    Stanford
    Cal
    Oregon
    Oregon State
    Washington
    Washington St.

    East
    Texas
    Texas Tech
    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma St.
    Utah
    Colorado
    Arizona
    Arizona St.

    Big Ten
    Legends
    Iowa
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Minnesota
    Nebraska
    Northwestern
    Wisconsin
    Illinois

    Leaders
    Ohio State
    Penn State
    Indiana
    Purdue
    Rutgers
    Maryland
    North Carolina
    Virginia

    SEC
    West
    Texas A&M
    Missouri
    Arkansas
    LSU
    Ole Miss
    Miss St.
    Alabama
    Auburn

    East
    Tennessee
    Kentucky
    Vanderbilt
    South Carolina
    Georgia
    Florida
    Virginia Tech
    NC State
    Virginia Tech
    NC State

    Big 16 (Big 12 remainder/ACC merge)
    West
    TCU
    Baylor
    Kansas
    Kansas St.
    Iowa St.
    Louisville
    BYU
    West Virginia

    East
    Florida St
    Clemson
    Pitt
    Boston College
    Georgia Tech
    Miami
    Syracuse
    Duke

    (Only Wake Forest gets left out and that is only if Louisville gets put in. If BYU and ND stay independent then one more spot could open for Wake or maybe someone like UConn since this concept has BYU in)

    • Makes sense as one of the easier plans to implement. Swap North Carolina and Georgia Tech as reports say B1G also interested in GT. Plus that makes your Big 16 (ACC merger) conference stronger and it gets to have NC more administratively important which they would like and they stick with Duke. Agree that 64 teams in four 16 team conferences is best way to set up the ideal structure for a college super league.

  19. Agreed that there are some obvious downsides to playing the Nicholls State game on December 1. But I think there are upsides, too. The most obvious upside is the guaranteed “W” that makes the team and the program look better on paper to pollsters, to recruits, and to alumni.

    But more important, I think, is the opportunity to get game time experience for many younger players who need it (and to give the OSU coaches a chance to evaluate those younger players in a real game). I’m thinking of guys on defense such as Brandon Bennett-Jackson (RS FR DT), Jaswha James (RS FR LB), and Shaydon Akuna (SO LB). On offense, I’d like to get a chance to watch Gavin Andrews (FR OT), Caleb Smith (FR TE), Richard Mullaney (RS FR WR) and, of course, for Richie Harrington (RS FR QB).

    We should be able to get all of these guys — and others — substantial game experience against Nicholls State without jeopardizing the outcome. I think that could prove quite valuable next season.

    • That game is a must, for the simple reason it elevates our season record. One more win.

      a 9 win season is regarded as better than an 8 win season. Its as simple as that…..cant see why anyone would not want to play it.

      Then, like SS says, added game experience for the 2’s and 3’s

      That said, I also think it was nonsense to let NS off the hook for playing it as scheduled.

    • It hurts us in the BCS computer rankings, but as stated I think that detriment is more than offset by the bumps in the human polls with the extra W in the score column.

      After all, most voters will simply assume that every top 25 team has 4 freebee Ws. Might as well claim one this season…

  20. Great fan experience game, with the duck loss announcement (“merry Xmas beaver fans!”), Yvenson proposing to his gf on the field, a blowout win, Koets coming back to be honored on-field, and the introduction of several Beavers in the military both young and old really made every game break enjoyable.
    Only downers were the weather and the kid barely missing both fg attempts to win Hawaiian airline tix.

    • Don’t forget, last week Tennessee got hit with an extension of their probation, because of payments they made to none other than Will Lyles a few years back, as reimbursement for his travel and hotel expenses while on recruiting trips with Lache Seastrunk. Lyles was classified as a booster because of his role in arranging the trip.

      If Lyles was a booster for Tennessee in this situation, he has to be considered a booster in the Oregon situation, for helping set up recruiting trips to Oregon. (Chip Kelly even sent thank you cards to him for setting up the future trip as well as past ones)

      http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/774407/1309501203.jpg

  21. News out of Berkeley is that Tedford is gone. Boosters haven’t necessarily ponied up the money to buy him out. But the promised funds which would be withheld if he remained would be about five times as costly. Cal team will meet in about 15 minutes to get the news.

    I’m also hearing that Jon Embree will get one more year to figure things out, but none of his coordinators will get the same courtesy. Strong rumors have Tedford of all people possibly landing in Boulder as an OC.

    • Giving Embree another year is so stupid of Colorado. They are ranked dead last in the FBS in scoring offense and scoring defense. You don’t “figure it out” with that guy. La Tech’s Sonny Dykes would be good for Colorado or Utah St.’s Gary Anderson. It will be funny if Tedford has to work under a guy who has zero business as a Div 1 head coach, and was only ever a TE coach before and is worst out of 120+ FBS teams. Tedford probably thinks he has a shot at the HC job in 1 year and that the odds may work out for him. Colorado’s situation will remain lousy if Embree is around. He is that bad.

    • Talked to a couple Cal boosters before the game. They recognized what a great job Tedford has done for their program, and the NFL players he has recruited. They felt that the buyout although doable would not help the program as they wouldn’t have the resources to go after somebody of higher quality. However, they mentioned that Tedford has slipped in the discipline area (see 15 penalties for 170+ yards.

  22. @kerryeggers
    OSU FB Tyler Anderson faces surgery to repair ACL/MCL and will miss rest of season. Beavers hope Clayton York will return to start vs. UO

  23. Another pointless, ill-thought post. You’re putting together quite a string now. Or are you just upset because Riley didn’t call you for play calling ideas before the game? Dang, he always does that…

  24. from espn

    TE David Ajamu flips to Washington

    David Ajamu (Shelton, Wash./Shelton) called it the toughest decision of his life. After receiving an offer from Washington before the Huskies’ win over Utah at CenturyLink Field two weeks ago, the 6-foot-5, 231-pound tight end spent the game wondering what it would be like to be Austin Seferian-Jenkins’ understudy.

    • saw this coming with the news last week that UW had offered him after a verbal to OSU was already in place. Some UW fans piffed that get when OSU first got it; I’ll bet he moves up a star or two in the ratings now that he’s headed to Seattle. Nice job of prospecting for OSU; too bad we couldn’t close. The Sefarian-Jenkins phenomenon probably turned him.

  25. @LindsayRae19
    Brandin Cooks, as expected, is fine. RB Storm Woods had a little concussion and might be limited Monday. Grant Enger getting better.

  26. Wow RT @PedroMoura: Matt Barkley is out for Notre Dame game with an AC sprain in his shoulder, Lane Kiffin announced. Max Wittek will start.

  27. With Tyler Anderson out and the possibility of Clayton York playing can we hope for a repeat of the Matt Sieverson performance in the ’07 CW? Another product of Central Oregon who hasn’t made much noise yet this year getting the Beavs off to a good start? Yeah, we can hope but seems unlikely.

    As for Wynn filling in at FB, that too seems unlikely. The Beavs will need all he has got on the D side.

    Will Riley consider Jovan? Does that make any sense or is Balfour the obvious choice with him having 50 lbs on Jovan? One thing for sure, with the open practices whatever is decided will not be a surprise at game time.

  28. This was the first Beaver game I have seen in awhile. I have criticized Mannion before but he did play well. The first interception though was his. He rifled a ten yarder with the wind way too hard. I think he was trying to make an adjustment on that throw after underthrowing Wheaton on the first play from scrimmage. In the third quater, Mannion was purposefully throwing it away when he had no play. I loved it but the fans around me were grousing. I am a bit worried about the defensive line splits. Against the Ducks, the wide de splits will not work. Cal almost popped it several times early when the game was fairly close. Against Oregon, the defensive line has to occupy all five offensive linemen and let the linebackers clean up. In the front set against Cal, the Beavers were conceding the off tackle lead. Dylan is great at following the play down the line and plays really hard. Unfortunately his wide split is a Duck wet dream.

    • At the game the loudest the crowd got was after the announcement that Stanford won. I thought that this was a perfect display of our fan base’s loser mentality.
      I personally enjoyed that the Stanford won but I am not going to cheer and yell about it and I especially am not going to make an effort to watch Oregon’s game while I am attending the Beaver game.

      • The loudest cheer should’ve been for Wards determined, 47-yard td run. I like the way he is running, and that he’s doing it at this time of year. I expect him to be running like an angrybeaver on Saturday.

      • I was commenting to my wife that it looked like the final scene in Return of the Jedi, where all the Ewoks are dancing and celebrating because the good guys won. Reser had a very Ewok feel at that moment. (by the way, I didn’t shoot that video, I was up in the stands, in the rain, watching Cooks score a TD)

      • Cheering because a team ahead of us in the standings lost, making the CW game’s outcome determine whether we finish ahead of them in the Pac is a loser mentality?

        The only effort those people had to make to watch the duck game was to raise their heads and watch it on the TVs.
        You’re telling us you wouldn’t have watched that OT kick?

        Lastly, you include yourself when you refer to the fan base.

        • Jason, I appreciate your posts on this site and often agree with you, but come on.

          I am disappointed that the majority of the fans at the game cheered as loud or louder for the announcement that the Ducks lost than at any other point in the game.

          I would not be watching the overtime kick, I would be watching Brandon Cooks score a touchdown at the game I was attending. This wasn’t before the Beaver game or at halftime or one of the many TV timeouts, it was in the middle of a play.

          I am part of the Beaver fan base just as you and everyone else on this site is, that doesn’t necessarily mean we all have a loser mentality or any other trait that the group has as a whole.

          • I think part of the reason the cheering that uo lost was so loud was because of Cook’s TD. I had no clue what was going on during the duck game, other then what the stadium PA announcer had said earlier, that it was in OT. As I was jumping up and down and screaming about Cook’s TD, I noticed the score flashing on the tickerboard, which kept my excitment going.

            Those fans watching inside, yeah that is total BS! I hate the ducks, and love to watch them lose. I am not going to miss a second of OS action to watch a duck game though.

            The fact that both those plays happened together IMO is what caused the cheering to be so loud. First Cooks scored and then the score started to get scene. It was a chain reaction of emotions…

          • Sorry I need to clarify. There was a small cheer mid-play before Mannion threw the ball to Cooks. In my original post I was referring to the loudest cheers after the PA announcer gave the Oregon score and then said “Merry Christmas”.

      • Aw come on. It was sweet sweet goodness to watch those fuckers go down. I don’t fault the excitement, or the rubber necking for anyone who happened to be in view of a TV at that moment.

          • I’m not saying that it wasn’t satisfying that the Ducks lost. I don’t like that the biggest moment of the game had nothing to do with our game. Also, I could understand that level of excitement if the Beavers were elevated to playing in the national championship if the Ducks lost but that was not the case. Losing to Stanford sealed our fate of not making it to the Rose Bowl.

          • Sometimes you just can’t hide the joy! Just go with it already. I told myself long ago, after several attempts at being a fair and neutral Oregonian, that I was no longer going to supress the deep hatred and just run with it instead.

          • Come on JD. As a fan base, I don’t think we can cheer loud enough for Duck losses. These are truly awful people – we all know one (or in some cases are surrounded by them), and to know one is to know the worst the human soul has to offer. To express unadulterated glee when these disease-riddled NikeZombies die a painful death, and experience what’s left of their blackened hearts break, should be the natural reaction for any good Beaver fan. That the cheer was louder than any other cheer during our blowout (I was there and actually disagree that it was, but whatever) makes perfect sense to this Eugene-based Beaver fan.

          • OK alright you sold me, I’m in on cheering for the Ducks loss. I hate the Ducks as much as the rest of you, fortunately I am somewhat isolated from the jerk Duck fans here in Beaverville. The last time I was in Eugene I eventually felt like punching every a hole with an O shirt on.

            Not all Duck fans are jerks but all jerks are Duck fans…

      • How about the idiot that sits in front of me and gets noticeably agitated every time anybody makes any comments that are not 100% supportive of the Beavers? That’s a classic display of the loser mentality. In fact, a few years back he made the point to turn around and lecture me because as he stated “we are all at the games to support the Beavers” and he further stated that he didn’t appreciate my comments.

        I responded to him that I’m at the game to watch and enjoy a football game and not to support or cheer for bad officiating or bad football. This only seemed to piss-off the self-righteous idiot even more.

    • too expensive to fire. they couldn’t afford a quality replacement to keep the seat warm and keep recruiting up while they paid off Tedford’s remaining salary.

  29. Some interesting scenarios for UCLA. They basically have the choice of who they want to play in the PAC12 Championship game. If they lose to Stanford, they play Stanford again. Doesn’t matter what happens in the civil war bc Stanford owns the tiebreaker. If UCLA wins, they may get a trip to Eugene. The outcome of the civil war should be decided by kickoff of the UCLA/Stanford game so we’ll see what Mora does.

    I have to think Mora will pull his starters after the first quarter and just play vanilla the rest of the game. Get a lot of backups some significant playing time. Treat it as a NFL preseason game.

    • You play to win in that situation. The better overall record will help them more, and you don’t want to show weakness to your opponent. It would be bad for morale too. I don’t see UCLA taking the game off, unless it’s a blowout early.

    • In life, when you try to lose you keep losing. UCLA gets it in their head that losing the first game to Stanford is their best path to the RB, and they end up losing two games and playing in the Las Vegas Bowl.

    • Mora is trying to build a program and is not just looking at gamesmenship. The previous UCLA culture allowed the team coast at times. Turning things off after the first quarter would be a return to the past and really does not fit the personality of Mora. UCLA is peaking right now. They would be foolish to play it like an NFL preseason game, or an NFL game right before the playoffs.

      PS-Beavers should study what UCLA has done on special teams. If you watched UCLA/USC, you would notice that even though most UCLA kickoffs went thru the endzone, UCLA had 5-6 guys run hard downfield into the endzone. I do not recall seeing that Saturday night. UCLA also has an impressive number of kick blocks. Beaver pressure on punts and exta points/field goals is ok, but nothing to write home about.

    • LOL — I see talk about life…

      I think you have a point. Decide who you have a better shot at beating in the title game, and play it that way. Going to the Rose Bowl, for UCLA, would be HUGE. Certainly bigger than one more win on your record.

      Then again, I think this UCLA team is out to show it isnt the team that backed into the title game last year, and lost to UO. They took it to USC, and might well want the opportunity to show they can do it to UO.

  30. Some observations from the game,

    – Cal basically gave up mid way through the 2nd quarter. The rain really seemed to bother them.
    – Cooks continues to be ridiculous. Hopefully he’s ready for civil war.
    – Mannion was not throwing great balls, just good enough. The ball to cooks would have been incomplete or picked but the wind really knocked the ball down and Cooks is great at adjusting the the ball.
    – The refs had some kind of grudge against Cal. Just an insane amount of penalties.
    – Woods should still be the starter at RB with Ward backing him up. Woods appears to still have conditioning issues. Ward has proven that he is a capable backup.
    – Wards run was a lot to do with Cal’s just inabilty to tackle and Ward just knew to keep his legs driving. A couple guys missed Ward twice.

  31. Rumors on Tedford are that he was out the door until he suggested a contract rewrite to dump the buyout if given another year to do better.

    These are rumors. I’m still hearing that a couple big time boosters are just demanding Cal strike now while they think they can get a couple certain coaches.

    And then there’s all this realignment talk again:
    Maryland and Rutgers to the B16?
    UCONN to the ACC?
    BYU to the Big East?

    • Read about the Maryland move the other day. Just won’t be the same not having them playing Duke and UNC in the ACC in hoops.

      Still not a big fan of the Pac-12 vs Pac-10, but at least the next 2 years we’re pretty much guaranteed a conference victory each season with Colorado on our schedule. Really amazing how weak the Pac 12 south was this year, yet USC still couldn’t win it.

    • I believe BYU will say no to the Big East, but I don’t know what they are waiting for. They play a WAC and Mountain West schedule as an independent.

  32. Duck loss to Stanford doesn’t help Beavs. Chip Kelly is at his best, or worse depending on your point of view, when he is on a mission. After the 2007 3OT loss to the Beavs, they retooled and swamped South Florida, with a fourth string QB.

    Beavs are ultimately an upper- middle rung PAC-12 team that the Ducks have been feasting on this year. They will chase an even more immobile Mannion all over the backfield.

    Plus…how does he get the NFL gig if he can’t win the PAC-12 North? JB

    • You don’t think OSU is pretty comparable to Stanford? Or is Stanford another upper-middle run PAC-12 team that the Ducks forgot to feast on? I think OSU with a healthy, accurate Mannion has more offensive firepower than Stanford, and the D is a little weaker. Not sure if one will be enough to make up for the other.

    • No, he is at his best when other teams don’t play their assignments on D. And who cares if he’s in the NFL or not? They’ll be on a bowl ban next year anyway.

    • Dont agree

      The duck loss helps us hugely. It shows UO can be beaten, and were beat by a team we could have beat with a couple breaks going our way. Confidence is big.

      Kelley has always, every game, been on a mission. At some point I think the players cant keep up the “this game is the next one in the season long playoff”, and lose focus.

      I also think, from the UO BCS ongoing status, that they now have a sufficient rep that other teams dont really practice or scheme to beat them, and so the ducks run right thru them. It also may be that the ducks are mostly a big play offense, as they seem to get a lot of points from the occasional big play. Contain those big plays and you have a shot at them. Mariota got off one 77 yd run, but didnt get in the endzone, and in fact, the ducks got no points out of it.

      Kelley gets an NFL gig by raising the level of a school’s football status just on (apparently) the strength of his coaching, just as Riley did back in the day. Riley had no Rose Bowl, but still got a pro gig.

      • I agree. I am under no illusions that the Ducks will be hungover for the civil war and I expect they give us their best shot, but the loss is huge for the Beavs’ psyche. A drubbing of Cal and a loss to Stanford, who we lost a heartbreaker to on the road. Big for the Beavs’ confidence. That doesn’t mean we have the horses to win this game, but I think it is set up about as good as we could hope for.

    • Funny creatures with unhealthy BMI’s and increasing rates of diabetes…the cost thereof we’ll all get to bear while they eat too much food and spend too much time in front of their tvs….

      That’s bizarre. It looks staged – like an SNL skit – until they run outside. I fear it is real.

  33. Hold on… I’m almost there… just about there… I can almost feel it.

    Oh… never mind.

    It was just gas. I thought for a second there that I was about to care.

      • Me too. They all worship him. Hopefully he lives on for a few more years. All the old coaches who retire
        always seem to pass away after hanging it up.

        • Especially if subjected to the stress of folks discovering said coach was covering up for an employee’s abusive criminal acts. Ages ya.

        • Thanks for the link, geez kind of sounds like the administration pushed him out a little and want to make a clean break from his family. Even 60 damn years can’t buy you 100% loyalty!

          • No, he realized that it was time to go and pulled the plug himself. He said last year he wasn’t doing a good enough job. An amazing run. He was approached multiple times over the years to move up to the higher ranks. It would have been interesting to see if his methods, such as the no tackling in practice,
            would have worked in Div 1.

  34. Let’s play a game of what if?
    What if the Beavs top Oregon in the Civil War? Where do they finish ranked in the BCS and which bowl do they go to?

    1.Notre Dame-Guaranteed top 10 BCS sport win or loss
    2.Alabama-Guaranteed top 10 (even with a loss to UGA)
    3.Georgia-Guaranteed top 10 unless they lose to GA tech (unlikely)
    4.Florida- Plays Florida St-stays put or finishes around #10
    5.Oregon-Loses to Oregon State, falls out of top 10
    6.Kansas St.-stays top 10 with win, drops out with loss to Texas
    7.LSU-stays in top 10 with easy win
    8.Stanford-Stays top 10 with win vs UCLA (drops out with loss)
    9.Texas A&M (easy win, stays top 10)
    10.Florida St.(Win puts them in top 10, loss drops them out)
    11.Clemson(Win vs South Carolina puts them near #10, loss drops them out)
    12.South Carolina(Win vs Clemson puts them near #10, loss drops them out)
    13.Oklahoma(2 wins put them in top 10, any losses keep them out)
    14.Nebraska(Most likely win, but stay out of top 10)
    15.Oregon St.(win vs Oregon, finish near #10) (leapfrog nebraska, leapfrog either Clemson or SC, leapfrog Florida St if they lose, leapfrog Oregon, leapfrog K-State if they win)

    Beavs with a win should finish around #10 or #11. Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Florida most likely will all finish ahead of Beavs. Beavs would be #2 team in Pac 12 with tiebreakers over UCLA and Oregon. Do 4 SEC teams get BCS games ahead of #2 Pac-12 team? Especially with Notre Dame in title game? Seems like this could lead to Stanford in Rose and Beavs in Fiesta still but the Beavs gotta win.

    Any thoughts?

    • 2 teams at most can come from one conference. I haven’t seen any of the talking heads saying anything but I got to think a 10-2 OSU team would be attractive to the Fiesta Bowl or some other bowl. Then again a 10-2 UofO team might be a bigger money draw.

      • How does 10-2 UofO get picked ahead of 10-2 OSU with tiebreaker? Is it at the Bowl committee’s discretion to pick based on which one with travel better? Gotta think OSU would travel just as well, especially with half of Oregon fans stuck with flight and hotel reservations to Miami, haha

        • once all the AQ’s have been placed in bowl games then the bowls take turns choosing from the top 14 teams. OSU might be a better draw though because we haven’t been to a BCS game in forever and we started out the year thinking just get to .500 so a lot of fans are pumped where as UofO fans might not want to travel as much having to “settle” for a game that is not the title game. I don’t know what all the bowl committees will look at… just saying it is a possibility. The loser of the P12 title game might get the nod also if they are in the top 14 since they would technically be the “runner up.”

        • 100% ducks talk so far. How they are really a better team than Stanford. What plays cost them the Stanford game. How they can get back to the National Champ game. No mention of CW.

      • What’s he going to say that you don’t know?

        Five of those teams will definitely not play in a BCS bowl. Four of them will be SEC teams, and one will be Pac 12.

        If your hypothetical has us beating Nikegon, then either Stanford or UCLA goes to the RB to play either Nebraska or Wisconsin. The losers of those championship games will not be considered for a BCS at-large berth.

        There will be three at-large berths. The SEC will get one. Oklahoma will get one if they win out, regardless of the KSU/UT outcome. That leaves one slot more unless KSU loses to UT. That would leave two berths open for bowls to decide between us, Nikegon, UT, KSU and Clemson.

        • No, K-State with a win gets the automatic berth to the Fiesta Bowl, Oklahoma grabs the at-large, that means the last at-large comes down to UO, OSU and Clemson.

        • My mistake, Jack, you’re right, misread it. However, I think K-State wins, so final berth comes down to UO, OSU and Clemson. If South Carolina ends up beating Clemson, I think winner of Civil War grabs final spot and heads to Fiesta Bowl.

  35. For anyone wanting to know why Shaydon Akuna is not ahead of Robinson should watch the 4th quarter. Akuna gets a decent amount of playing time at outside LB. Did not make one play. Not even an assist on a tackle.

    He looks like he’s running with heavy feet. Not much explosiveness. Looks like he could drop maybe 20.

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