What would be the estimated buyout of Riley should he be lackluster this year. Hate to say it but short of 7 wins I will be almost completely checked out. Can’t stomach a 7th straight loss to the Ducks. BDC’s dumbass extensions be damned. I think this program is on the verge of losing more support as the Riley plateau and now it is a slow decline folks gain considerable credibilty. 14 years with Riley and looks like there won’t even be 1 Holiday Bowl. That is sooooo much time to give for lukewarm results. Have to think we could havr had similar or better top end results over that time if maybe half of those years were with a different coach. Be honest..we know how this mediocre tale ends. 20 years given to Riley and hid best finish is a ridiculous Alamo Bowl loss where he failed to call a timeout for 15 seconds.
BDC and too much of the same old with subalpine peaks in the past and only foothills being won to look forward to have made this a make or break season for me. Can’t just watch us do the same things over again and accept repeated defeats by the Ducks without wanting something new. Either BDC goes or I and I imagine maybe thousands others do.
Some discussion about the roster sizes, league setup, etc. Any thoughts?
We could definitely shrink the roster size. I’ve never seen a league that big- almost all mine have been size=16.
However, I’d be open to trying the large roster size, for a few reasons:
• It’s a 10 team league, when IMO 12 team is ideal for competitive leagues. Larger roster (or more teams) means you have to dig deeper to find waiver wire / free agent options.
• It’s a keeper league, so gives you the flexibility to hold onto players for keeper reasons without as much impact to the current season.
• There is an extra WR spot compared to standard, which generally requires an extra roster spot to balance out.
But, all of those reasons are impaired or invalid with a RB/WR limit of 6 apiece. Just to fill my roster, I would probably be looking at carrying 3 QBs and 3 TEs. That would completely kill the depth at those positions for the season if a lot of people did it. Even worse would be people carrying 2-3 defenses or kickers. In that case you’d pretty much be stuck with the kicker and defense(s) that you drafted, which are frankly a total crapshoot in the preseason.
I’ve never played with max limits on players at a position, but you may want it with a roster size of 20 to prevent players from screwing up the market (10 QBs!). It should just be set higher to prevent imbalance. My target roster of 20 would probably look something like this:
2 QB
5-9 RB
5-9 WR
(14 total RB/WR)
2 TE
1 DEF
1 K
I am thinking we should do 12 teams, or we should reduce roster size to 16, rather than up the limits at the skill positions. But let’s hear what people think.
Shrinking the roster size probably the easiest solution. Still think a limit of 6 is a bit restrictive though. Usually, between the RB and WR positions, I try to go “quality” on one and “quantity” on the other.
Curious for those that have played this way- what’s the value of restricting positions? Assuming people are playing rationally and not hoarding at random positions.
Word from camp is Peko has to write one last sentence and he will have finished his class. Then he should, perhaps, might be cleared to join the team or not. It may all hinge on proper punctuation.
Sounds like Rahmel Dockery must have been cleared by the NCAA to participate because he’s at practice today, according to the tweeters.
Angry, do you want camp related stuff in this thread? wasn’t sure if it would muddy up your fantasy football thread with unrelated topics, since, you know…..we always stay on topic around here
i got an email from beaver marketing over the weekend that i won a pair of club level tix to 1 of 2 games of my choice. PSU or ASU. Seemed like an easy choice. Has anybody here sat in the club section? What are the perks?
Never sat in Club level. Only advantage I know of is that’s the only place they serve beer. Those of us regular season ticket holders who try to get up there to get a beer get shut down with a condescending look, almost like the flight attendant who quickly shuts the curtain to first class starring at you like “Maybe if you worked a little harder, I wouldn’t have to be doing this” – Seinfeld. You’ll be rubbing elbows with the Beaver elite my friend.
Yup! I got that email too…there must not have been a lot of response or our responses were in the top. I live/work about an hour north of Corvallis. So I asked my boss if I could go to the 4pm session with me leaving around 2:45-3pm and he approved. I work 8-5, so I’ll work thru my lunch and take the hour/hour 15 mins off unpaid. I think it’ll be worth it. So if any of you want me to ask Riley any questions, I’ll make a forum column for it…you’ll have a week and a half to come up with questions…I’m not really coming up with any and I’ll screen them to what I feel would be prudent.
Hey Beavers4life, did you get this email today too? I’m really tempted to go, but it would mean taking time off work. It’s too bad it’s not on a Saturday
“Congratulations,
You have already received 2 tickets for an upcoming OSU game but we have selected a small handful of you as our next level winners. We would like to invite you to join us for a special day of behind the scenes access to our first day of practice with full pads, which is August 18th at 9 AM and again at 4 PM. As you probably know, Coach Riley is one of the few coaches who still allows fans to view all of his practices but we want to provide you with a next level experience. We will have a designated area for you to view practice from, give you a tour of the Valley Football Center and you’ll even get a chance to meet Coach Riley. “
I checked in on Peko’s twitter feed to see if there was any new info about becoming eligible to participate in team activities. Apparently that english class isn’t helping much…….I can’t make this stuff up.
What does he create? Excuses? Toilet-fill material?
Maybe he should talk to Noke Tago, who was learning English when he came here, was not raised in the USA, and yet got into to school, stayed in school, and actually practices?
True, he could come in and still never get on the field if he’s not good enough, but judging from his offer list and highlight reel, you’d think he’d be good enough to challenge for a starting spot with the Beavs. I think people want him on the team because they’re tired of our yearly patchwork lines, and are looking forward to having a solid group this year at the D-line positions, even with Crichton leaving.
Yup. He seemed to have the skill to be an ready made DT that could be an impact player and give us a pretty solid group to rotate in. God knows we need help with the interior run D.
funny, Oregon doesn’t think their team plays with enough of a “blue collar” attitude, so they decided to buy practice gear with actual blue collars…..because that’s how you develop that attitude..right? you just pay a little extra for it
They descend from the ceiling amidst fog and green and yellow laser lights, and apply themselves to each player. Filled with cooling gel, these blue collars are also equipped with Bluetooth speakers that allow Phil Knight to whisper to each player; their haptic capabilities allow Knight to “pat each player on the back” after a good play, GPS technology in the blue collars allows Nike to monitor each player’s position on every single play and inform post-game, 3 dimensional holographic renderings of every play.
They want blue collar they should hire Riley and his lunch pail…what do you think his high end would be with the Ducks? 9 wins?
I just love that the team with the posh, $68M Football facility needs their underpaid, Indonesian garment workers to sew blue collars onto their practice jerseys to remind them they need to be more blue collar.
Also tweeted Peko will find out august 17th. This is getting regoddamdiculous. Even if he ends up being eligible you’d have to guess it would take another year to knock the rust off and get up to speed.
Since we’ve heard of no previous suspensions, I’m thinking weed is off the table, as is anything involving legal problems. I would guess it’s an academic issue.
Does Songy matter? Seriously, has he shown anything and does he provide more than back-up? I don’t ask that to be sarcastic, it’s a genuine question. Maybe a true FR can work their way to 2nd string? Willis?
Can our staff show these articles to prospective WR recruits? How can we not get our foot in the door with some of the more elite recruits at that position? Cooks is a great example that sometimes the rating do matter.
Eggers has a fairly in-depth piece on the O-line today. First I had heard that Seumalo had a 2nd surgery last year because of difficulties healing from the first. sounds like he tried to use his foot a little too much too early. The hope is he’ll be back by the San Diego state game (game 3) but there’s even a mention of the possibility of red-shirting if healing takes too long. Sounds like the former is more likely than the latter, but “luck o the beavs” could have something to say about that.
Here’s the first fantasy…Beavs playing in the Rose Bowl.
We need to think about a good draft time. A few owners are east coast.
Corvallis Bike Riders is a solid name…I would have also accepted “Hip Hip Hooray”
“Identity Crisis”
Timeout Savers, The Golly Gee’s, Parker’s Pimm’s,
Fall Showcase.
Thanks!
Named my team Gosh Darn. Probably what I’ll be saying after losing every week.
Jiminy’s Crickets
What would be the estimated buyout of Riley should he be lackluster this year. Hate to say it but short of 7 wins I will be almost completely checked out. Can’t stomach a 7th straight loss to the Ducks. BDC’s dumbass extensions be damned. I think this program is on the verge of losing more support as the Riley plateau and now it is a slow decline folks gain considerable credibilty. 14 years with Riley and looks like there won’t even be 1 Holiday Bowl. That is sooooo much time to give for lukewarm results. Have to think we could havr had similar or better top end results over that time if maybe half of those years were with a different coach. Be honest..we know how this mediocre tale ends. 20 years given to Riley and hid best finish is a ridiculous Alamo Bowl loss where he failed to call a timeout for 15 seconds.
BDC and too much of the same old with subalpine peaks in the past and only foothills being won to look forward to have made this a make or break season for me. Can’t just watch us do the same things over again and accept repeated defeats by the Ducks without wanting something new. Either BDC goes or I and I imagine maybe thousands others do.
Wuss.
I love the team names so far.
The Gum Chewers.
Some discussion about the roster sizes, league setup, etc. Any thoughts?
We could definitely shrink the roster size. I’ve never seen a league that big- almost all mine have been size=16.
However, I’d be open to trying the large roster size, for a few reasons:
• It’s a 10 team league, when IMO 12 team is ideal for competitive leagues. Larger roster (or more teams) means you have to dig deeper to find waiver wire / free agent options.
• It’s a keeper league, so gives you the flexibility to hold onto players for keeper reasons without as much impact to the current season.
• There is an extra WR spot compared to standard, which generally requires an extra roster spot to balance out.
But, all of those reasons are impaired or invalid with a RB/WR limit of 6 apiece. Just to fill my roster, I would probably be looking at carrying 3 QBs and 3 TEs. That would completely kill the depth at those positions for the season if a lot of people did it. Even worse would be people carrying 2-3 defenses or kickers. In that case you’d pretty much be stuck with the kicker and defense(s) that you drafted, which are frankly a total crapshoot in the preseason.
I’ve never played with max limits on players at a position, but you may want it with a roster size of 20 to prevent players from screwing up the market (10 QBs!). It should just be set higher to prevent imbalance. My target roster of 20 would probably look something like this:
2 QB
5-9 RB
5-9 WR
(14 total RB/WR)
2 TE
1 DEF
1 K
I am thinking we should do 12 teams, or we should reduce roster size to 16, rather than up the limits at the skill positions. But let’s hear what people think.
Shrinking the roster size probably the easiest solution. Still think a limit of 6 is a bit restrictive though. Usually, between the RB and WR positions, I try to go “quality” on one and “quantity” on the other.
Curious for those that have played this way- what’s the value of restricting positions? Assuming people are playing rationally and not hoarding at random positions.
Someone needs to make a team named “Ranker & Biley” — sounds like a bad law firm.
I’m the Corvallis Bike Riders and plan to stick with that.
“More with less” is a good team name. Need one about turning stones to find diamonds in the rough, too. Maybe “low hanging fruit”? hahahhah
Not a fantasy football guy but do you like the name “500 or Bust?”
Like ‘Low Hanging Fruit.” I suggest “Charcoal Briquettes” for anyone who wants a team name related to Riley’s “diamonds in the rough.”
The irony about the whole diamonds in the rough is the lack of “pressure” in Riley’s program; which explain why most of them stay briquettes.
OT – anyone going to practice today? The cynic in me can hear Riley already:
“Today is the first step towards finding your identity….”
Let’s see how a more informed Garret’s “attention-to-detail” is expressed in fall camp – new packages? Increased offensive diversity?
‘Rockman Turner Overdrive?”
Sorry.
This was in response to Angry’s “Need one about turning stones to find diamonds in the rough, “
Names for those who couldn’t be here: Peko’s Playaz, Simi’s Squad, One Last Class…
Assistant Centric: Bear Crawlz 4eva, Kidney’s for Contracts, Read’s Special Teams: or is it Special Ed
I’m not playing ( I’m In 3 leagues that’s already too much) but some team name gems:
– Where’s Simi?
– Peko Finds Kuli
– The Fly Sweep
– Finding Our Identity
– Hip Hip Hooray!!
Who knocked up my Daughter?
Word from camp is Peko has to write one last sentence and he will have finished his class. Then he should, perhaps, might be cleared to join the team or not. It may all hinge on proper punctuation.
The semi colon gets ’em every time.
He should get a coffee enema.
BEAVERS PRACTICING TACKLING. Not live, but…
https://vine.co/v/M9gt603MT3n
Looks like maybe they did watch Pete Carrol’s tackling video….
Sounds like Rahmel Dockery must have been cleared by the NCAA to participate because he’s at practice today, according to the tweeters.
Angry, do you want camp related stuff in this thread? wasn’t sure if it would muddy up your fantasy football thread with unrelated topics, since, you know…..we always stay on topic around here
i got an email from beaver marketing over the weekend that i won a pair of club level tix to 1 of 2 games of my choice. PSU or ASU. Seemed like an easy choice. Has anybody here sat in the club section? What are the perks?
Never sat in Club level. Only advantage I know of is that’s the only place they serve beer. Those of us regular season ticket holders who try to get up there to get a beer get shut down with a condescending look, almost like the flight attendant who quickly shuts the curtain to first class starring at you like “Maybe if you worked a little harder, I wouldn’t have to be doing this” – Seinfeld. You’ll be rubbing elbows with the Beaver elite my friend.
The Beaver elite are in the Loge. Sticking with the plane theme, Club level = Business seats.
So does club level mean I’m still not able to go into that indoor section where people are playing air hockey and watching the big screens?
Yes, you’ll have access to that indoor section, with big screens, beer vendors, game room, etc.
Yup! I got that email too…there must not have been a lot of response or our responses were in the top. I live/work about an hour north of Corvallis. So I asked my boss if I could go to the 4pm session with me leaving around 2:45-3pm and he approved. I work 8-5, so I’ll work thru my lunch and take the hour/hour 15 mins off unpaid. I think it’ll be worth it. So if any of you want me to ask Riley any questions, I’ll make a forum column for it…you’ll have a week and a half to come up with questions…I’m not really coming up with any and I’ll screen them to what I feel would be prudent.
I’ll be up in the club level too for ASU game!!! I got the same email!
I was surprised when I looked up the value of those tix. $139 each!
Season tickets in the wings of the upper level are about $160 for an entire season, and they’re really not that far away, although they’re uncovered.
Hey Beavers4life, did you get this email today too? I’m really tempted to go, but it would mean taking time off work. It’s too bad it’s not on a Saturday
“Congratulations,
You have already received 2 tickets for an upcoming OSU game but we have selected a small handful of you as our next level winners. We would like to invite you to join us for a special day of behind the scenes access to our first day of practice with full pads, which is August 18th at 9 AM and again at 4 PM. As you probably know, Coach Riley is one of the few coaches who still allows fans to view all of his practices but we want to provide you with a next level experience. We will have a designated area for you to view practice from, give you a tour of the Valley Football Center and you’ll even get a chance to meet Coach Riley. “
Isaac still in a boot. Ruh Roh
Luck O the Beav’s……
I checked in on Peko’s twitter feed to see if there was any new info about becoming eligible to participate in team activities. Apparently that english class isn’t helping much…….I can’t make this stuff up.
Kyle The Creator ?@kyle_peko65
I sit here well life is passing me up
https://twitter.com/kyle_peko65/status/496302116173271043
just testing if we can embed tweets on this site, sorry if this looks funny
Hopefully that was not his last essay for that bitchin’ hard English class.
Maybe the word “while” is what’s keeping him from passing that class? It seems to be problematic for him. This tweet is from a day earlier.
rock
What are things smarter then Kyle Peko?
Why do people want Peko guy on the team?
What does he create? Excuses? Toilet-fill material?
Maybe he should talk to Noke Tago, who was learning English when he came here, was not raised in the USA, and yet got into to school, stayed in school, and actually practices?
Tago > Peko any day.
True, he could come in and still never get on the field if he’s not good enough, but judging from his offer list and highlight reel, you’d think he’d be good enough to challenge for a starting spot with the Beavs. I think people want him on the team because they’re tired of our yearly patchwork lines, and are looking forward to having a solid group this year at the D-line positions, even with Crichton leaving.
http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Kyle-Peko-139309
Yup. He seemed to have the skill to be an ready made DT that could be an impact player and give us a pretty solid group to rotate in. God knows we need help with the interior run D.
As long as “while” and “well” are left out of the playbook.
For upcoming preseason game with Rams, Cooks listed as 3rd WR behind Colston, Nick Toon, 2nd for KR, PR:
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/08/depth_chart.html
https://twitter.com/ginamizell/status/496375842701070336
Good luck Sean!
funny, Oregon doesn’t think their team plays with enough of a “blue collar” attitude, so they decided to buy practice gear with actual blue collars…..because that’s how you develop that attitude..right? you just pay a little extra for it
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/08/new_color_to_ducks_practice_ge.html#incart_river
Do the blue collars have glitter?
Sequins, like Liberace.
They descend from the ceiling amidst fog and green and yellow laser lights, and apply themselves to each player. Filled with cooling gel, these blue collars are also equipped with Bluetooth speakers that allow Phil Knight to whisper to each player; their haptic capabilities allow Knight to “pat each player on the back” after a good play, GPS technology in the blue collars allows Nike to monitor each player’s position on every single play and inform post-game, 3 dimensional holographic renderings of every play.
They want blue collar they should hire Riley and his lunch pail…what do you think his high end would be with the Ducks? 9 wins?
fwiw – I think that is very clever and funny.
I just love that the team with the posh, $68M Football facility needs their underpaid, Indonesian garment workers to sew blue collars onto their practice jerseys to remind them they need to be more blue collar.
I never heard as of July 18th deadline…did Gilette, Harrison, Cary, Rasmussen and Gretler NOT sign with the bigs?
All headed to OSU in the fall.
thx
Eggers reports Songy suspended for the season, violation of athletic department rules.
The war of attrition begins…
Also tweeted Peko will find out august 17th. This is getting regoddamdiculous. Even if he ends up being eligible you’d have to guess it would take another year to knock the rust off and get up to speed.
Especially if the guy is “just sitting there well life passes him by.” You think he’d be lifting and running his ass off.
It’s going to be awell before this guy gets to play football again.
Best post of the day.
Like father, like son?
Weed? Stealing crab legs? Tackled somebody in practice?
Puts a dent in the LB depth and special teams.
Since we’ve heard of no previous suspensions, I’m thinking weed is off the table, as is anything involving legal problems. I would guess it’s an academic issue.
Good news for Kyle Haley. Went from Juco to backup in no time
Does Songy matter? Seriously, has he shown anything and does he provide more than back-up? I don’t ask that to be sarcastic, it’s a genuine question. Maybe a true FR can work their way to 2nd string? Willis?
He seemed to be very good athlete and the type of prospect that turns out to be a good linebacker in our system. Certainly not a good thing.
More Brandin Cooks accolades, love ’em:
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-orleans-saints/post/_/id/8349/saints-rookie-cooks-steals-show-again
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantasy-roto-arcade/first-down–the-brandin-cooks-buzz-is-totally-believable-211452839.html
Can our staff show these articles to prospective WR recruits? How can we not get our foot in the door with some of the more elite recruits at that position? Cooks is a great example that sometimes the rating do matter.
If you look at the comments, there is one by “Douglas Williams” which is what should be shown prospective recruits, as well.
Eggers has a fairly in-depth piece on the O-line today. First I had heard that Seumalo had a 2nd surgery last year because of difficulties healing from the first. sounds like he tried to use his foot a little too much too early. The hope is he’ll be back by the San Diego state game (game 3) but there’s even a mention of the possibility of red-shirting if healing takes too long. Sounds like the former is more likely than the latter, but “luck o the beavs” could have something to say about that.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/229142-91867-it-all-starts-up-front-as-osu-seeks-more-balance
Is Garrett rubbing off on Cav?
That sentence looks/sounds so wrong…
Haha
We have 2 more openings if we’re doing 10 teams, and 4 if we’re doing 12.
Let me know soon if interested, otherwise I will recruit the final owners from elsewhere.