Thursday, 7pm on pac-12 network.
I’m putting up the thread a day early because people seem stoked about this team’s effort. Let’s keep the football talk to the thread below. Feel free to discuss the lady Beavs. That was the first female basketball I’ve ever watched yesterday, and it was really awkward at first but then it grew on me. If they continue to do well, any chance they generate positive revenue? That would be a nice windfall.
DePaul is probably the best test yet so it’s a pretty exciting game. Go Beavs.
I don’t think any women’s basketball programs make money.
http://www.swishappeal.com/2013/11/12/5090384/ncaa-womens-college-basketball-profits-donations
Tennessee and U Conn probably do.
Nope.
I purchased two season tickets a month ago for WBB to show my support for Coach Rueck and had OSU donate them to a local program for young girls. Unlike Football, I didn’t have to pay a donation to purchase season tickets, which I suspect makes up a nice chunk of money. Without that donation, I doubt WBB could ever be in the black.
A great idea!
If not turn a profit, at least close the gap. Even with sustained success, I doubt the women’s team would earn a profit. I’m guessing the ticket revenue can’t even pay the coaches salaries.
Women’s basketball reminds me of high school basketball in the suburbs. Some of the players are talented but none can dunk.
If not turn a profit, at least close the gap.
Exactly. If the sport can come close to supporting itself that would be great. I’d like to see the figures and if the revenue has picked up with the winning. Maybe people should make their donations to secondary programs like these instead of football since football is healthy.
They might want to follow the wrestling team’s lead. They have an endowment setup to pay for scholarships, expenses and coaches salaries.
If the wbb team does have a nice run, they could raise funds for that vs asking for donations for season tickets.
Success does not equal closing the gap
Extensions for Rueck will likely put OSU womens profits in about the same boat they’ve always been. What you don’t want is a buy out like Wagners to really hurt the revenues
Wagner should have been arrested, not bought out. IMHO
for what? Being a total bitch isn’t against the law
it should be.
I remember hearing about both verbal and mental abuse.
Probably still not a reason…how about just for general principle.
A football stadium costing millions of dollars used perhaps 10-20 times a year…Does a football team at the University level make money? Aha, donors, different pocket of money in the same pair of pants.
football make about 40 million . yes they make money even if some facilities get paid for.
Upkeep, police on game days, rent, garbage, power, sewer, water etc. are never included. Hard overhead costs are always charged .01 on the dollar or less. Thirty nine out of one hundred twenty six D1 schools bring in less than 8 million and are insolvent. Revenue, 40 million, is not the same as net profit. Creative accounting, switching pockets, is the rule in college football.
https://twitter.com/JesseSowaGT/status/545339179279065090
I don’t know much about this KenPom rating system, but it looks like the Beavs are starting to climb. They actually are rated higher than DePaul if I’m reading it correctly (128 to 147).
OT I know but Beaver baseball and beer is too good to pass up.
http://beavertickets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/baseball_ticket_Brochure_print32.jpg
Lady Beavs will have another big test on the 28th against Tennessee in Knoxville.
Go Beavs!
Cya at the game…
Don’t forget the teddy bears.
I would but I beat the stuffing out of mine.
Even with your reminder, I forgot mine…
Never felt more optimistic about the state of Beaver affairs.
I’m going to therapy for it.
Ummm… okay?
“… Gary Payton, an All-American and Pac-10 Player of the Year.”
http://registerguard.com/rg/sports/32528473-81/fits-like-a-glove.html.csp
One would think a sports writer might know a little about a little old HoFer.
http://www.tias.com/stores/adateintime/pictures/3349a.jpg
They have him as the GP II in the article and as the GP III in the caption under the picture…
Bring on the Paul!
every time I see your name I think of scuba steve from the adam sandler movie big daddy
Anyone have a working stream for the game?
Here’s another one: http://intsports.net/str15.html
Beavs looking good early. Up 12-6 at the first tv timeout. Such a joy to see them play as a team instead of watching rat ball
Shaft hitting threes?!?
Damn, it is fun watching this team work!!!
Dam, it’s never felt better to be a beaver…
These players have bought in. The effort is awesome. This is why I stress D first when I talked about the next football coach…D effort translates to other parts of the game. Beavs winning by playing intense D, getting turnovers, cashing them in. Depaul doesn’t look like bad team, either.
The leads this team has run out to starting game this year are pretty impressive
Tinkle said after the MSU game he still hasn’t gotten a full 40 minute effort out them but they’re still working towards it. Or something to that effect
Wow, impressive start. Anyone notice that bump on Tinkle’s forehead?
They need to get that little walk on looking guy out of the game.
Was Reid’s injury serious? Is he out?
I love that we’re throwing GP2 lobs.
Reid has a minor knee injury. Will miss tongihts game, but it’s not serious.
It’ll be interesting to see if the halftime break killed OSU momentum.
They seem ok so far. Confident in breaking the press. Cheikh is going to have to play more than he’s used to.
Victor Robbins could be really good one day. He’s very fluid.
Announcers talking about the painful travel to Corvallis and the lack of accommodations there. Are there really no suitable hotels around campus? Why don’t teams stay at the Hilton Garden Inn?
I think they’ve been sloppy and lazy. Obviously, no clue that Sanders is a football player. No mention of Reid’s injury. The crap about not passing the eyeball test…making fun of Olaf’s moves.
Is there anyway to complain about these guys? Pretty weak.
I kind of get the impression they don’t want to be there. Why isn’t Lamar Hurd and his buddy doing the game?
He just said if he were coach he’d be dismembering people by now…
He also said the Beavs will need “bench scoring” in the P-12….apparently oblivious to the fact that Robbins comes off the bench.
Dismember people!
They should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Better be a La Quinta tonight because they’ll need to wake up on the bright side of life
In a van, down by the river!
17 of 19 from the line!!!
easily their best effort of the season so far. This Depaul team beat Stanford by 15 a few weeks ago. Could be a combination of the beavs best game and Depaul’s worst but either way, these guys have bought in like angry said and it’s paying off! Think I’m gonna get our butts to the UCSB game on the 30th.
Hey angry, what’s up with these new space invaders avatars?
Last year, we would’ve lost this game.
This year, I think we’ll be a much better team than people expect.
I’m starting to believe that too. Holy shit! Maybe Jack was right?
COACHING!!!
I kept waiting for this to fold and they just poured it on.
Meant to say waiting for this team to fold. I think they may have found their identity.
I was there…it was freaking awesome to watch in person! Don’t have to wait for the cameras or anything.
Get your season tickets now, people!!!! It’s well worth the money. I believe the Beavs are only going to get better… and next year – OMG!
I’m sort of not believing what i just watched.
It was a well coached team that played hard and played to win.
Conversely, I think they are playing to not let the other team win…
Slight difference, same result.
Kevin O’Neal can go fuck himself.
He’s not very informed and not very good. Probably pissed that he’s not coaching.
He was really annoying. He didn’t add anything insightful and openly bashed Corvallis multiple times.
Glad you thought that also. I was afraid I was being paranoid. ATTENTION MEDIA….STOP FUCKING BASHING OSU SPORTS AND CORVALLIS!!!!! Great things are in the process of being achieved through great coaching, shut up about the city and starting taking notice.
BeavBlazer…..You remember the team meeting room with all the “Phrases by Riley” on the walls? well, looks like that’s going to be the new Media Room…..it had no windows in it. So maybe their going to force them to watch the football games on a television screen in the dark until they start being nice to Corvallis?
Possible design for the VFC Expansion/Remodel
https://secure.ous.edu/bid/system/attachments/4791/original/Programming%20Document%20-%20Valley%20Football%20Center.pdf?1415137146
Hard to be insightful when you do 10 minutes of research before the game!
So… that’s what last place in the Pac looks like?
Stupid media.
he would but much like his hoops broadcasting career, it would be rather short and uneventful
This team has done such a 180 that it’s super surprising. You gotta give Tinkle tons of cred, but also the players buying in and giving the effort.
We will see what conference play brings, but this is looking like team that can challenge.
8 wins. 12 more and it’s post season.
Very possible.
That was a pretty complete game…..damn. CR would have subbed in the secong half until DePaul managed a huge run and won the game. Parker said there was like 8 NBA scouts there, to watch a couple DePaul players…..lol.
Way to go, TEAM and TINKLE!!
Hopefully those scouts don’t write home about Tinkle.
Hard to tell from TV but during time-outs (I still believe it should be times-out) the assistant coaches seem to swarm to the players with individual coaching points. The Beavs should have Tinkle for the duration of Tres’s time at OSU. After that, we’ll see how serious everyone is about saying we don’t mind if a good coach uses OSU as a stepping stone because he/she would be leaving the program in better shape.
I was at the game… First game since last year with CR as coach. What a blast, I got seasons now
I think the goobers announcing gave insight into the Corvallis is hard to recruit to ideology.. That entire rhetoric is born from the middle age dork’s mindset:
“There’s no Ritz Carlton”
College kids could give two shits about that.
It’s really eye opening how pervasive this line of thought is among the media regarding Corvallis. It seems to have bubbled forth with the recent coaching changes. I wish I could figure out where it started. It’s like it’s embedded in the genetics of the local and national media now. You have hacks like O’Neill and Callabro who use it has their go to conversation. I took note that they did not mention the successful women’s team one time during the telecast.
You never heard anything like this when Ralph Miller was coach. He left a very successful Iowa team to come to Corvallis. You didn’t hear much about Corvallis being a shit hole when Dennis Erickson came aboard. It needs to stop.
Tweets and blogs aside, I believe a well-written letter to Pac-12 administrators is in order. I’ll attempt one after the holidays – especially if this continues. As far as I know, Corvallis is the only Pac-12 town that is disparaged, on-air, by Pac-12 announcers. My least favorite was last year when wbb was dismantling UW. The female announcer said it was “surgical”, commented about Scott Rueck, then in doleful, funereal tones “do you know hard it is to recruit to Cor—val—-lis. I’m certain I can find out her name, but if anyone knows off-hand that would be helpful. I want to use specific examples.
BTW – re: Ritz Carlton – I’ve stayed in terrific airbnb places the last few times I’ve been in Corvallis.
Now this is a great mission for the Angry Beaver nation. Force the OSU administration and media in Portland, Benton County, and yes, Eugene to take this narrative on.
Yeah, and get rid of the fucking Nutria while we’re at it!
I’ll tell you where it came from: it was the desperation rationale of the Schell, Goe, Jaynes pro-Riley apology crowd and there wasn’t enough push back from the likes of Parker and Eggers and so it gained currency. And for what: to justify the continued tenure of a worn out, washed up football coach. It’s a true tragedy. And I also believe that the predominance of that narrative began to really bother people like Pat Casey and Ed Ray and it was their direct and indirect pressure on De Carolis to Riley that finally broke the log-jam.
This looked like the Beavers playing another Mississippi Valley State. Even without Reid, they still hit on all cylinders. Monster game from Robbins. Refs called some BS on both sides, so while irritating they were pretty consistent. Solid, complete game. They are learning and they are buying in and it’s great to watch.
Were the Pac-12 announcers that bad? I was at the game so I didn’t get to see a lot. There’s a few highlights I wish I could see again, like the Crockett dunk in the first half, then that missed dunk GPII had. If that had went in, I would’ve had to leave because he just about baptized dude.
Kindof love this twitter post by Eggers with reply by Tinkle. Sortof a “how about I do my job and you do yours” exchange, but more friendly.
kerry eggers (@kerryeggers) tweeted at 8:51 PM on Thu, Dec 18, 2014:
‘ @waynetinkle needs to get his starters outta there. Game way over. Can’t afford an injury to a regular
(https://twitter.com/kerryeggers/status/545803564426067970?s=03)
Wayne Tinkle (@waynetinkle) tweeted at 10:40 PM on Thu, Dec 18, 2014:
@kerryeggers Thanks for the help KE! Go Beavs!
(https://twitter.com/waynetinkle/status/545831129069023233?s=03)
Came here to post this. Haha, I love it!
More Tinkle, “#OregonSt?UrDamnstraight!”
Gotta keep the OS?…DS!! rollin’
That’s always the cliche by sports writers. Injuries can happen at any time…should players not practice because they might get injured? It’s ok for a walk on to go in and blow out his knee, but not a starter. It’s just one of those meaningless observations. Tinkle called him out on it.
pillow ball in Tempe gets a year extension
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12049933/arizona-state-sun-devils-approve-herb-sendek-extension
The producer of the game must have talked to that idiot Keven O’Neill. There’s a clip of him interviewing Victor Robbins post game and he mentions that Robbins comes off of the bench (after saying during the game that the Beavs will need bench scoring during P-12 play) and he finally gets it right that Western Oregon is a D-2 school after calling them a NAIA school throughout the game.
Didn’t get to check in last night, amazing rout. OSU is really on an upswing with several sports, and it has leaders (Tinkle and Andersen among them) ready, willing, and capable of dispelling the negative narrative about OSU and Corvallis.
Angry, you said OSU marketing would be a target next, it seems like a prime time to start developing recommendations to take advantage of the momentum OSU is generating.
Bball team is playing well but I think the wheels come off in conference play. Couple of factors, depth and size. With only an 8 man rotation, these guys are going to be spent by the end of the year. Plus they will need to stay healthy the entire time to avoid playing the walk ons for extended minutes. I expect every team to full court press the Beavs. While they were able to break the press vs DePaul, there will be much more athleticism in conference play.
I predict they will finish again in 10th place ahead of WSU and USC. While the guys have shown they are talented, there just isn’t enough of them.
Assuming they finish non-conference at 10-2, which is likely, and they go 5-13 in conference (entire possible), that’s a 15-15 record heading into the Pac-12 tourney. I would have been surprised if they won more than 8-10 games the entire season.
In CR’s first season, they won 7 conference games with a team led by Calvin Haynes.
Ricky Claitt
And that was after the Pac 10 had some ridiculous number of kids get drafted. The Pac was way down in 2008-09.
Still… it was what it was… and better than O’fer.
The narrative for Wayne Tinkle is playing out fairly similar to CR’s first year.
No expectations. Coming off very disappointing seasons. Picked last in the preseason media poll. The new coach’s resume is better than the last. Excitement over 5 incoming recruits.
Difference is Tinkle walks his talk and Robinson just talked….
Everyone was talking about making the NCAAs after CR’s first year. Also talk of him going to Kansas when they had an opening. Tinkle has had a positive start but he hasn’t achieved anything yet.
Tinkle hasn’t lost to Texas A&M Corpus Christi by 25 points yet.
I can’t remember the exact numbers I gave, probably because I gave a range. I think I said we would win between 13 and 17 games, probably trending toward the low side. But I think that was with 5-8 league wins. I still think 5-8 is a reasonable number. But they’ve beaten my expectations so far.
We’ll see what happens when we start making road trips. It might be a night and day thing between home and road games in terms of comfort and shooting the ball and focus.
15-15? Oh boy! CBI here we come again!!!
GPII getting some Chad Ford love
Chad Ford ?@chadfordinsider 18s19 seconds ago
Also, @kpelton & I talk two draft sleepers we’re watching: Cal’s Tyrone Wallace & Oregon State’s Gary Payton II http://es.pn/1wTy6Wx (in)
Anybody here have ESPN Insider?
I do, it just says that the triple double has got him on scouts radar now. Scouts say they have not watched him in person but have started to watch his games on tape. If he can keep up his production in conference play, then he should start getting serious looks.
Every week we ask each of you to identify a potential draft sleeper for us. Who has caught your attention this week?
Pelton: Gary Payton II, G, Oregon State
Earlier this week, GPII made headlines by posting the Beavers’ first triple-double since his Hall of Fame father recorded one 26 years ago. This Payton, a JC transfer, has been one of the nation’s most productive players so far, stuffing the stat sheet. He is one of three players in the nation with steal and block rates both better than 4.0 percent in at least 200 minutes, and is one of the nation’s top 150 defensive rebounders from the backcourt. As a result, he rates as one of the nation’s top 10 players this season by my translated stats. Payton has done this against a weak schedule, and he’s sharing playmaking responsibilities, but are scouts taking notice? Could there be another Payton in the NBA?
Ford: That’s a nice call. I don’t think he had garnered much attention at all from NBA scouts until he netted that triple-double against Grambling State on Monday (10 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists, 6 steals). When I called around to scouts, none of them had scouted him live and a few had just started watching video. I’m doing the same. You’re putting him on the radar, Kevin. From early glances, he looks as if he could make a rapid rise on the board if he can keep that type of play up in conference play. As I said, the NBA is hungry for point guards right now, and the name recognition should keep him in the conversation.
Dave in Tumwater calling out the Pac-12 Network for the old anti-Corvallis crap
Says we need a full-on PR campaign to recover from the hole we dug trying to protect Riley with all that
Where was that? Great points, glad he made them.
JoeBeav show on KEJO
Need to make them on Mike and Mike or whatever ESPN show is national.
“Dave in Tumwater” must either post here under another name or read this blog closely.
After the commercial break Jon Warren says he’s gonna rail on this “narrative about Corvallis”
Did Gary Payton ever follow through on his $2-3M pledge to OSU?
Did it go into the practice facility?
I believe so
Credit CR for getting GP back into supporting his alma mater.
yes. I will absolutely give CR credit for that. He was just fine as a PR guy. Well spoken. But when it comes to coaching is where his skills are/were lacking
http://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-college-cities-and-towns-in-america/8974/
Hope the Pac 12 Network saw this….
But you can’t recruit to top college towns!
Here’s a link to Sunday’s game…
http://www.quinnipiacbobcats.com/sports/mbkb/2014-15/qu_mbb_vs_oregon_state?DB_OEM_ID=30800
WBB: Just tuned in to learn that Rueck was ejected in first half! What happened?
LadyBeavs up 1 with 15 minutes to go.
LadyBeavs up 67-52 with 3 min to go.
Sounds like two ricky-tack T’s resulted in Rueck’s ejection.
This morning’s game could be a trap. Quinnipiac beat Lehigh 3 days ago by 15. Lehigh beat ASU last night in 3OTs. Beavs need to continue the hard play on defense!
Congrats to the Lady Beavs…another win yesterday to go 10-0.