Well I got my football season ticket renewal today. A little surprising but not surprising with the salaries of the new staff. Tickets are $90 more than last year with one less game. $379 vs $290 last year. Looks like the minimum donation in each section has increased too. Can anyone else confirm that? Hopefully enthusiasm for Andersen extends to the wallet.
I do not like Kevin O’Neill. He sounds weird and looks like he should be in the financial industry. I heard he was also the idiot no hotels in Corvallis guy?
Man, The offense has regressed. They are passing up open looks, missing layups, pulling the string on threes and not moving much. Defense can only take you so far, you do have to put the ball in the basket in this game.
And thank God GP-2 did not pick up a third foul. They need to play lock down D in the 2nd half and feed the ball to Jarmal (never thought I would be typing that). Also, Tinkle needs to come up with a way to get Schaft open looks.
On TV it looks like Wazzu is bumping and grabbing left and right and the officials are just letting them play. They shouldn’t be helping a shitty defensive team.
By all means, please refer to the misogyny of religion when explaining how an ancient patriarchy refers to what is supposedly a non-gender, formless being.
I thought we were making fun of PC. Then we get one of the major reasons it survives pushed into the argument? I mean… come on. That’s like posting racism doesn’t exist because David Duke says so.
Well that was ugly, but a win is a win is a win. Held WSU to 18 2nd half points and absolutely shut down Lacey. Other than those 2 three’s by LMW he was MIA again. Olaf was MIA again as well. game ball to Jarmal Reid. He carried the team offensively tonight. Way to go big fella
Entire group needs to practice Free Throws! Not good tonight guys!
It’s a game where you wonder how the hell did they win, but they did it with really tough defense in the 2nd half. Jarmal is a load and he has a lot of tricks around the basket to get his shot off.
And I’m really getting tired of Kevin O’Neill and his “Oregon St.has no talent” bullshit. Nobody wins on the road with any consistency in the P-12 except Arizona.
yup. conference teams with winning road records………
Arizona 3-1
Stanford 3-2
Utah is .500 at 2-2
Tough to win on the road in conference. I still think the beavs have a shot at USC and at Cal. Something seems to have lit a fire under UCLA’s ass, but we’ll see if they can keep it up. Shocked they won at Stanford tonight
What numb nuts threw that number out? I know the “experts” were down on us. But everyone was crazy to not at least call out double digit wins with the non-con slate we had. And then they were doubly crazy to not think we could get at least four conference wins given the various states of Wazzu, Cal, USC and ASU.
very true. I forgot about that first half one where he tripped over his own feet and he acted like he got pushed and they called Duvivier for the foul I believe. My bad. Lacey and Railey will share the award. Way to go pussies!
I feel like at this point the team is like “How ugly can we win? A win is a win…fuggit”
Hey man, they winning so I ain’t complaining. Let’s get these Fuskies on Sunday. It’s gonna probably be the same level as USC, so I hope you guys attending get there on time! It’s gonna be fun.
It’s weird, I really like watching these P-12 Beav basketball games when they are close because scoring is such a precious commodity, It’s ugly, but in a way it’s a thing of beauty. Every basket matters. Every foul shot matters, every rebound matters. It engages me. It’s almost like watching a tough football game where teams don’t score on every drive. Little things matter every second.
I’ve posted this before but I don’t think that will be an issue next year. The guys coming in seem more team oriented. Thompson has won a state title last year in CA and Tinkle led his team to the finals and is leading the top team in Montana. Bruce was on a team that made the quarters in Southern CA. So they know what it takes to win as a team and that defense can’t be ignored. These guys get more of the state/league accolades than the AAU accolades. Rueck’s team is filled with 1st team all state kids vs AAU all stars.
I would hope next year, the defensive intensity is still there but the offense is much more efficient with the new kids.
On defense –
#8 in points allowed per game,
#13 in defensive efficiency (points allowed on 100 possessions).
#4 in opponent shooting percentage
#25 in opponents turnover per possession
On offense –
#303 in points scored
#244 in offensive efficiency (points scored on 100 possessions)
#212 in shooting percentage
#189 in turnovers per possession
With the new guys, the defensive effort should still be there, maybe better with additional depth.
I’m seeing some similarities to what Dick Bennett did at WSU many years ago. Essentially started from scratch. His teams were all about defense and grinding out possessions. Game were routinely in the high 40s and 50s. Ugly games but in the end it paid off when his son took over. 2 NCAA appearances and 1 NIT bid.
Regarding GA, I think he just learned that he prefers building programs rather than inheriting a built program. Nobody is talking about that angle, but it seems the most obvious based on his path and things he’s said in interviews.
Good observation. It may be why he’s somewhat indirect about his answers for coming to Corvallis and OSU. Its difficult to say “I like building/rebuilding programs” without insulting prior staff and holdover staff.
IMO the team was still in shock after the drubbings they took in the desert. Confidence was extremely lacking and it showed early & often.
The difference between the first and second halves was wonderful. They started getting their mojo back late first half and early in the second half and by the last 5 minutes were back on top of their game! Reid & Duvivier taking the lead to the win can only help the rest of the team.
Looks like I’ll be going to the Colorado MBB game. First game in 5 years.
Nice to see Gill on tv with plenty of butts in the seats for a Thursday last night. House should be nearly full on Saturday vs UW. Not many tickets left aside from the nosebleeds and upper corners.
If CR was coaching this year with the 5 top scorers having left, everyone would deal with the likely 5-17 record right now as it being a “rebuilding year”, and what can you do…
Hell make the clock variable: “Payton bringing the ball up the court, OSU with 25 on the shot clock – no wait! The clock just changed to 2 seconds! Payton steps into a 40-footer!….”
Then make the points variable too – when the ball is mid-air. “Payton with the 3! NO! THAT WAS GOOD FOR 15! OSU up 16 now!”
George Carlin had some good suggestions for sports….if the pitcher hits a batter, the batter is out. Basketball: Light the mid-court stripe on fire…football? too many just standing on the sidelines doing nothing, get ’em out there!
People in general want to see faster paced games. A lot of college basketball games end up slow and ugly. Rule changes to help scoring and pace are not for the die hard fans, it’s to get more casual fans be more interested in watching more often. College basketball games do not need a 35 second shot clock. That’s way too long. Eventually there will be a 25 or 24 shot clock and the game will be better for it. I hope they switch to 10 minute quarters next. It will only improve the game
Don’t women’s college games have a 30 second shot clock already? Never understood why the men’s was 35. I like 30. 2 possessions per minute. Clean and simple.
I don’t like the idea of unveiling it during one of the post-season tournaments though. If teams play with the same rules all year, why would they think it’s a good idea to switch it up on them in the last couple games? Would much rather they waited until next year and then gave these rules to everybody at the same time.
Remove TV time-outs or give each team two time-outs per half and keep the four TV TOs. Nothing makes a game lag more than the TV TOs themselves… except when both teams have four TOs in the last minute of a close game.
I’d also consider allowing a 30s TO on top of the other two full ones in each half, so long as it disappears after the -4:00 TV TO.
If you can keep possession for 30s in soccer, you probably have a very very good team. In fact, you would probably have one of the best teams in the world.
Why don’t you do it? And I’m not talking about the dumb-fuck argument where I suppose you need to go out against great athletes who are at the top of their sport and beat them. Just take a ball out on a field and go try out your shot clock idea. Start at one end of the field and go do it. Then do it for 45 minutes straight, take a fifteen minute break, and do it for another 45 minutes.
Hypothetical question….but it could potentially apply to one of the 2016 recruits.
If a kid says that a school hasn’t been in contact with him for weeks, and said school said he was their number 1 target in his position for 2016, do you think the coaches have cooled on him?
Go Beavs! I predict a sweep
How about a “clean sweep!” like those old cheesy Emporium sale commercials
Didn’t we rid ourselves of Ernie long ago? Guess not….
Tough to tell who’s worse, Kent, or the guy that replaced him.
Hoping for a few wins here too.
I predict more predictions. Go Beavs!
Gentleman Beavs deliver a victory!
I may be seeing your Boilermakers this Sat. in person.
They’re on a nice roll right now.
I am going to post a 10,000 word recruiting treatise on this specific thread momentarily because I would like to antagonize a sleeping Beaver.
Nevermind….Go Beavs kick Wazzu’s ass!
Well I got my football season ticket renewal today. A little surprising but not surprising with the salaries of the new staff. Tickets are $90 more than last year with one less game. $379 vs $290 last year. Looks like the minimum donation in each section has increased too. Can anyone else confirm that? Hopefully enthusiasm for Andersen extends to the wallet.
I do not like Kevin O’Neill. He sounds weird and looks like he should be in the financial industry. I heard he was also the idiot no hotels in Corvallis guy?
Lamar Hurd looks like this kid post haircut.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/05/georgia-barber-offers-free-old-man-haircut-as-punishment-for-misbehaving-kids/
Good grief, cougs are having all the bounce luck
Ucla taking it to Stanford in Palo Alto
sloppy tired bball :-(
Man, The offense has regressed. They are passing up open looks, missing layups, pulling the string on threes and not moving much. Defense can only take you so far, you do have to put the ball in the basket in this game.
I’m starting to predict a sweep now, too, but not of the good kind
Can’t make layups?
This game has been badly officiated at best.
Understatement
I’m probably biased but it seems like in P-12 games opponents go over the back of Beavs on the glass with no consequence.
First Half – LMW gets called for a foul trying to block out a WSU big climbing over his back. Fucking ridiculous
WSU making baskets, but their passing is freaking horrible
Couldn’t have been a worse half and we’re still only down 2. That’s not a bad place to be.
And thank God GP-2 did not pick up a third foul. They need to play lock down D in the 2nd half and feed the ball to Jarmal (never thought I would be typing that). Also, Tinkle needs to come up with a way to get Schaft open looks.
If these god dammed officials don’t start doing a better job look for something to fly from section 4 toward their pointy melons
On TV it looks like Wazzu is bumping and grabbing left and right and the officials are just letting them play. They shouldn’t be helping a shitty defensive team.
Looking for the flyer! Something’s gotta open their eyes.
Realized all I have is my phone and keys… Need to remember pocket full of batteries
you obviously aren’t from Eugene, Hawaii or Fresno
UCLA almost gags away a 22 point lead and wins by 2
They get Schaft the ball in a couple of good spots and he can’t make a shot.
Jesus….most of those Beaver 18 ft. jump shots aren’t even close. Bricklaying….
Need to go out to the broadside of a barn for some practice here, yikes
fugly game so far. From both teams and the officiating
don’t forget the announcers…they sucked too!
Kevin O’Neill may claim to know shit about basketball, but his career head coaching record speaks otherwise
Oh please Railey. Didn’t flinch until well after the play was over. Pussy
Good God….come on Lamar just say that nothing is there and this is stupid delay of game.
Free throws got make your free throws!
You sound just like The Schonz. Rip City, Baby!
Man, I thought these guys were over the shitty free throw shooting. Really bad this game so far.
I thought the extra days off from playing Wed/Fri last week would help a team with limited depth. Apparently not.
day off – singular
They will need to replace the rims and backboards after all the bricks both teams threw at them tonight.
I’m going to pass out…..a over the back foul call against a Beaver opponent!!!!!!!
beavs starting to open it up :-D
this team is gonna kill me @_@
Beavers 8-19 at line so far, after the two Gomis misses.
Brick. Brick.
Despite it all, Beavers look to get out with a win here.
err…hold that, still up in air…
Fugly + win = Win
Good grief, Ernie Kent’s eyes bug out like that Arizona State She Devil
Do we have to specify “She” Devil?
It’s a play on words: Sun Devil –> She Devil
I called her She Devil during the game. I thought it a perfect fit too ;)
Yes, because in the bible Lucifer was a male angel.
By all means, please refer to the misogyny of religion when explaining how an ancient patriarchy refers to what is supposedly a non-gender, formless being.
That will certainly help the argument against PC.
OK
I thought we were making fun of PC. Then we get one of the major reasons it survives pushed into the argument? I mean… come on. That’s like posting racism doesn’t exist because David Duke says so.
It just killed my buzz… that’s all.
Pulled it out!
Way to go, beavs :-D
Well that was ugly, but a win is a win is a win. Held WSU to 18 2nd half points and absolutely shut down Lacey. Other than those 2 three’s by LMW he was MIA again. Olaf was MIA again as well. game ball to Jarmal Reid. He carried the team offensively tonight. Way to go big fella
Entire group needs to practice Free Throws! Not good tonight guys!
It’s a game where you wonder how the hell did they win, but they did it with really tough defense in the 2nd half. Jarmal is a load and he has a lot of tricks around the basket to get his shot off.
And I’m really getting tired of Kevin O’Neill and his “Oregon St.has no talent” bullshit. Nobody wins on the road with any consistency in the P-12 except Arizona.
yup. conference teams with winning road records………
Arizona 3-1
Stanford 3-2
Utah is .500 at 2-2
Tough to win on the road in conference. I still think the beavs have a shot at USC and at Cal. Something seems to have lit a fire under UCLA’s ass, but we’ll see if they can keep it up. Shocked they won at Stanford tonight
Me too. If the game had been 1 more minute they would have won. Had a long way to come back.
I thought we beyond the FT’s thing?
When does Robbins get back?
Tied for third now!
Robbins will be back two weeks from tonight vs Utah. 3 more games in his suspension
Yes, Beavs are now in a 4-way tie for 4th with UCLA, Stanford and Oregon
Amazing that we expected maybe 5 wins all season, and the team is currently 13-0 at home with victories over Arizona and UCLA
and they aren’t done!
Five wins?
What numb nuts threw that number out? I know the “experts” were down on us. But everyone was crazy to not at least call out double digit wins with the non-con slate we had. And then they were doubly crazy to not think we could get at least four conference wins given the various states of Wazzu, Cal, USC and ASU.
I think most expected 3-6 Pac 12 wins and 7-8 or so OOC wins
Those sound like reasonable numbers.
3 way tie for 3rd?
*4 way tie for 3rd?
Correct, 3rd. Fat little fingers strike again!
oh yeah and the Bill Laimbeer flopper/pussy of the game award goes to Jordan Railey
I say flop award goes to Lacy. He’s even famous among cougs for it
very true. I forgot about that first half one where he tripped over his own feet and he acted like he got pushed and they called Duvivier for the foul I believe. My bad. Lacey and Railey will share the award. Way to go pussies!
If tape shows that a player is a continual flopper, refs should be much tougher on giving them calls
Career high 20 for Jarmal. 5502 in attendence. Plus 11 with Reid in the game. Only 10-22 FT tonight.
Cal beats USC 70-69 on a 3 at the buzzer
https://twitter.com/FOXSports1/status/563580034422566913
#pac12afterdark strikes again
I feel like at this point the team is like “How ugly can we win? A win is a win…fuggit”
Hey man, they winning so I ain’t complaining. Let’s get these Fuskies on Sunday. It’s gonna probably be the same level as USC, so I hope you guys attending get there on time! It’s gonna be fun.
Learn to win first and develop confidence. Win artfully later.
OT, women’s softball sporting orange and helmets with numerals similar to OSU football orange helmet:
http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209878146
And winning….
p.s. a lot of orange not too flattering on a stout girl.
2-0. Great start, this is going to be a good team.
For you uniform wonks – black goggles with orange trim!!
http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=750150&SPID=127149&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209869579
Women play tonight.
Go Beavs
Go lady-women-2x-chromosome-top-in-the-pac-kickass-beavs :-D
It’s weird, I really like watching these P-12 Beav basketball games when they are close because scoring is such a precious commodity, It’s ugly, but in a way it’s a thing of beauty. Every basket matters. Every foul shot matters, every rebound matters. It engages me. It’s almost like watching a tough football game where teams don’t score on every drive. Little things matter every second.
I agree. Kind of dreading that they’ll change style next year and not be so D intensive and take off possessions on offense…
I’ve posted this before but I don’t think that will be an issue next year. The guys coming in seem more team oriented. Thompson has won a state title last year in CA and Tinkle led his team to the finals and is leading the top team in Montana. Bruce was on a team that made the quarters in Southern CA. So they know what it takes to win as a team and that defense can’t be ignored. These guys get more of the state/league accolades than the AAU accolades. Rueck’s team is filled with 1st team all state kids vs AAU all stars.
I would hope next year, the defensive intensity is still there but the offense is much more efficient with the new kids.
Couple of stats to point out,
On defense –
#8 in points allowed per game,
#13 in defensive efficiency (points allowed on 100 possessions).
#4 in opponent shooting percentage
#25 in opponents turnover per possession
On offense –
#303 in points scored
#244 in offensive efficiency (points scored on 100 possessions)
#212 in shooting percentage
#189 in turnovers per possession
With the new guys, the defensive effort should still be there, maybe better with additional depth.
I’m seeing some similarities to what Dick Bennett did at WSU many years ago. Essentially started from scratch. His teams were all about defense and grinding out possessions. Game were routinely in the high 40s and 50s. Ugly games but in the end it paid off when his son took over. 2 NCAA appearances and 1 NIT bid.
Tony still does that. He stresses D first. If his kids play his D to perfection, he gives them free license on the other end.
I agree with this mentality wholeheartedly.
Regarding GA, I think he just learned that he prefers building programs rather than inheriting a built program. Nobody is talking about that angle, but it seems the most obvious based on his path and things he’s said in interviews.
Perfect. Riley left the program in shambles.
Hopefully Rile E. left some Acme Football Program Glue lying around somewhere
Good observation. It may be why he’s somewhat indirect about his answers for coming to Corvallis and OSU. Its difficult to say “I like building/rebuilding programs” without insulting prior staff and holdover staff.
IMO the team was still in shock after the drubbings they took in the desert. Confidence was extremely lacking and it showed early & often.
The difference between the first and second halves was wonderful. They started getting their mojo back late first half and early in the second half and by the last 5 minutes were back on top of their game! Reid & Duvivier taking the lead to the win can only help the rest of the team.
I expect a much better performance Sunday.
Looks like I’ll be going to the Colorado MBB game. First game in 5 years.
Nice to see Gill on tv with plenty of butts in the seats for a Thursday last night. House should be nearly full on Saturday vs UW. Not many tickets left aside from the nosebleeds and upper corners.
Another thought:
If CR was coaching this year with the 5 top scorers having left, everyone would deal with the likely 5-17 record right now as it being a “rebuilding year”, and what can you do…
I’m so past that coach! We were all there for it, but it is now in the past….let it go.
I thought Oregon State was about, er, honoring the past and traditions LOL
You’re right, I need to let CR and Rile E. go, but it’s so hard :-( How can you appreciate good performance when you can’t compare it to the subpar?
Yeah after a few years of being down on someone it’s hard to go positive again…ask my ex wives….
Oops, I meant to say that “I” let it go, not that anyone else should.
But I called him a “coach”, too…my bad.
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2015-02-06/experimental-rules-be-used-during-2015-nit-include-30-second
Should be interesting to see a 30 second shot clock in our games in March :D
Also, that restricted area might prevent some of the charge calls GPII picks up when he glides to the rim.
Heck, just cut to the chase and make it a 10-second shot clock. Wouldn’t that make it EXCITING?! *eyeroll*
Hell make the clock variable: “Payton bringing the ball up the court, OSU with 25 on the shot clock – no wait! The clock just changed to 2 seconds! Payton steps into a 40-footer!….”
Then make the points variable too – when the ball is mid-air. “Payton with the 3! NO! THAT WAS GOOD FOR 15! OSU up 16 now!”
George Carlin had some good suggestions for sports….if the pitcher hits a batter, the batter is out. Basketball: Light the mid-court stripe on fire…football? too many just standing on the sidelines doing nothing, get ’em out there!
Why do they assume people want to see massive scoring? Baseball made this incorrect assumption and went through some dark years….
People in general want to see faster paced games. A lot of college basketball games end up slow and ugly. Rule changes to help scoring and pace are not for the die hard fans, it’s to get more casual fans be more interested in watching more often. College basketball games do not need a 35 second shot clock. That’s way too long. Eventually there will be a 25 or 24 shot clock and the game will be better for it. I hope they switch to 10 minute quarters next. It will only improve the game
Don’t women’s college games have a 30 second shot clock already? Never understood why the men’s was 35. I like 30. 2 possessions per minute. Clean and simple.
I don’t like the idea of unveiling it during one of the post-season tournaments though. If teams play with the same rules all year, why would they think it’s a good idea to switch it up on them in the last couple games? Would much rather they waited until next year and then gave these rules to everybody at the same time.
Remove TV time-outs or give each team two time-outs per half and keep the four TV TOs. Nothing makes a game lag more than the TV TOs themselves… except when both teams have four TOs in the last minute of a close game.
I’d also consider allowing a 30s TO on top of the other two full ones in each half, so long as it disappears after the -4:00 TV TO.
I’d even be happy with media TO’s after each 5 minutes instead of four. That alone would speed games up significantly.
And we’d have less basketball to watch. It’s not about fan experience, it’s about advertising revenue.
Soccer needs a 30-second shot clock
If you can keep possession for 30s in soccer, you probably have a very very good team. In fact, you would probably have one of the best teams in the world.
Screw possession, someone take a freaking shot!
Why don’t you do it? And I’m not talking about the dumb-fuck argument where I suppose you need to go out against great athletes who are at the top of their sport and beat them. Just take a ball out on a field and go try out your shot clock idea. Start at one end of the field and go do it. Then do it for 45 minutes straight, take a fifteen minute break, and do it for another 45 minutes.
Good luck.
You get trolled by my soccer jabs way too easily, Jack ;-)
I have an appreciation for soccer with my 12 year old son playing year around. It keeps him in amazing shape, he can go and go.
Hypothetical question….but it could potentially apply to one of the 2016 recruits.
If a kid says that a school hasn’t been in contact with him for weeks, and said school said he was their number 1 target in his position for 2016, do you think the coaches have cooled on him?
does he have a scholarship offer?
Yes