There's nothing to say. I notice people are getting testy in the comment area. Looks like everyone needs a break.
To complain about Riley & co. would be beating a dead horse. Additionally, I don't think anyone cares about the Cal game, so I'm not going to waste our collective time. I feel bad for the beat writers who have to cover this game. Eek. Sometimes it pays not to get paid. If you do want to discuss the game feel free.
Oh, one thing: a frustrating part of this season is that I don't notice players improving with each game. If they were, I think this game versus Cal would be more exciting. Guys aren't getting worse, either. They're just…basically the same as in week 1. Very odd to play 9 games without clear improvement.
I'm more interested in the basketball game on Saturday…
Since I find bsketball about as entertaining as curling, I’ll bite.
This game looks like Utah part 2.
Crap QB,decent running game,legit defense. Winnable game if schemed properly. So that means they’ll come out and run the same old shit and get burned about the same.
31-13 Cal.
Utah part dos. I agree.
I’m not sure what your saying. I purchase the larger Dish package to get Curling during the Olympics. I saw they actually sell out large arenas in Canada for Curling. To be honest I would much rather watch an intense Curling match than the Beavers ( Football ) right now. I went with my son a couple of years ago to watch OSU against Stanford. The most exiting Basketball game I have ever been to, including Blazers. I couldn’t hear for ten minutes after the game.
People dislike that which they don’t know or understand. Football is just easy to understand.
I understand that curling and basketball are fucking boring.
So is Radiohead.
I get it. I just find it boring.
Hecker’s punting of late has been an improvement over the early season negative yards and other shank punts. Poyer has improved in all facets. The drive back to pdx after the game has improved. (Less fans on the road). That’s about all I can think of.
ive noticed the drive has definitly been shorter as well
Hard to care other than to see how a few individuals respond and hopefully demonstrate leadership that will carry over to next year.
Riley’s won 10 of last 12 against Cal, 5 straight at Cal(?). This season is probably a good one for OSU’s dominance over Cal to take a break.
RE: “Utah Part 2:” Be funny if OSU stacks the box this time though….
I won’t be watching or listening. Probably check out the UW game though. CW will be too predictable to watch.
Example of how a coach takes responsibility and a local beat creates a real and objective story:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/asu/articles/2011/11/08/20111108arizona-state-football-coach-dennis-erickson-must-find-way-finish-job.html
Two notes:
1. I’m not promoting DE here. I’m just providing a relevant example of what our coach should do and how our beat writers should react.
2. The feeling on Jahii Carson is indeed impending doom. The most current rumor is that he did poorly in his online class (ala Dominic Glover), so he retook one of the college entrance exams (ACT or SAT) in order to qualify on the NCAA sliding scale (core grades vs. exam scores). It’s rumored that he received his scores on Monday night, and they weren’t good enough to qualify. But there is no news to report because ASU is now appealing to the NCAA based on some other circumstance. I’m told the rumor coming out of ASU is that he was diagnosed (this week) with a learning disability, and that’s the factor on which ASU is basing the appeal.
It’s too bad. I would have liked to see him play this year. Who knows? The NCAA may qualify him based on appeal, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. It looks like he will need to go the same route Berto took, and he won’t be eligible until the NCAA clears him to participate in team activities (not games), then he shows academic progress at ASU for a full year after that.
Thanks for the link, Jack. One statement by the scribe stood out, “Erickson could’ve insulated himself. He could’ve pulled a Tony La Russa, concocting an incoherent excuse about communication problems.”
Hmmm, communication problems….sounds familiar doesn’t it.
Pac-12 Power Rankings for Week 11:
STAN 151.17
ORE 146.95
AZST 136.92
USC 131.66
UTAH 130.11
WASH 127.72
ARIZ 122.72
CAL 121.05
ORST 119.91
WAST 119.84
UCLA 119.11
COL 111.71
Commit from Brent Vanderveen, QB: 6-foot-5, 203-pounder reaffirmed his June commitment over the weekend despite OSU’s struggles this season. He is the nation’s No. 9 dual-threat QB, and holds offers from Arkansas and Oklahoma State.
Impressive…
Why would any dual threat QB commit to Oregon State?
to become a Safety (re: Peter Ashton) :D
Good one!
Maybe Riley is going to implement the spread at OSU and Vanderveen is the first piece of the puzzle.
Lol, yes, this is all a Mike Riley elaborate plan to implement spread against the spread of the Ducks in the 2011 CW.
2012*
Not sure, but the recent OL commit is his buddy in Highschool so that probably had something to play. But hey, if we could only use a dual-threat QB he would be great at it. I mean offers from Arkansas and Oklahoma State?
Isn’t this just an admission from Riley that he’s about to retire and turn the reigns over to PBH? I’m surprised you haven’t let the cat out of the bag.
I think he got hacked or someone is using the name. He usually signs off and has something stupid to say.
I thought the same thing after I made my post. Oh well, it was getting to be a tiresome schtick anyways.
Different avatar.
He’s not a dual threat QB. Very much pro-style…he just happens to be athletic.
Possible evidence that katz will be transferring?
Nope. Has zero to do with Katz.
i wouldnt like this matchup if the beavers were 7 and 2, let alone 2 and 7. that said, the change of scenery could help (i believe angry brought this point up before the washington state game). ya never know, i dont have to tell anyone on this site that the beavs have done some great things when no one expects it. whats the broadcast deal for the hoops game? is it gonna be on BNO?
Hoops is free on BNO.
Someone in marketing must have figured out you need to entice an audience before you slam them with a pay wall.
Or the whole discussion last spring about baseball streams sparked someone to make a nice donation for all to enjoy.
Or… do we think they figured they could run their own ad model streams instead of lose money to pirate feeds?
nice thanks.im assuming that memberships to BNO werent making any real money. they couldnt have. theres just no way.
Check that… the listing on the schedule has changed to “premium.” I guess whomever was responsible for updating the website was late to change the info. I noticed the same thing happened on the football schedule, with all the info being listed as “Stanford” for the Cal game.
All this makes me want to pay money for such an efficient service.
unfucking real. hopefully theres a pirate stream up
I’m sure there will be.
Don’t forget the real heros today. Happy Veterans day to all who have served. Thank you for your service and for protecting our freedoms.
Would it be irony that we never got Veterans Day off?
Yeah no shit. The bankers are playing golf tho.
And happy birthday to any jarheads in the room. (Yesterday).
I can’t get excited anymore about a basketball team that says every year that it’s going to be a great year. Prove it………for once……please……prove it. I don’t think they will.
Hmmm…
2009-10:
“We are thinking about finishing in the top half of the league, there are some real formidable goals and achievable goals here. There is the air of higher expectations; so you will see me more than last year trying to manage everyone’s expectations out there because they are a little higher than they should be. It is a different feel this year with our players.”
They finished tied for 5th in the league, which I would consider the top half.
2010-11:
“I have been trying my best in the few interviews I’ve done up until now to emphasize that we have nine freshmen and sophomores. So while we have, what I would say, better skilled and better athletic players there are still nine freshmen and sophomores with four seniors. So there’s going to be a huge growing lag early on and I’m really relying on our upperclassmen to kind of show these guys the way.”
And to our frustration, he DID rely on those seniors.
2011-12:
“I view this like parental expectations of kids going to college. You tell your kids from the time they start understanding that they can go to college that the work that is needed to get there still needs to be put in. They don’t automatically get to go to college. It’s the same thing with making the NCAA Tournament. Our goal is to get to the NCAA Tournament and I’ll stand by that from here on out. But we still have to put in the hard work that is needed to get there.
“I think, for the first time in my head coaching career, I have a first-team and a second-team that are almost identical. So if we can raise the tide of the entire program, that means depth and that means you can weather injuries, you can weather foul trouble, you can weather fatigue, you can weather a lot of things when you have 10 guys you can put in the game.”
Many people, myself included, always want more from our teams. And the players always want more themselves. If they didn’t, then I wouldn’t want them on the team to start the season. But what we all want and what is/was reality don’t always mesh. There was hope because the players now coming to OSU are exponentially better than previous players on a whole. But they’re not the one-n-done types who will carry a team on skill alone. And even those players need a supporting cast to go anywhere.
So if we take the time to listen to what our coach says rather than plug the hopes of the players into our expectations, then reality becomes more sane.
I’m excited because what the coach says is less removed from the players’ expectations this year.
I don’t listen to players anymore. I’ve heard enough from them in person and on the air waves to know better.
As for the coach, one example…CR told me once at a Beav huddle that he thought Omari Johnson was really going to take a step up. He said this year “we can compete with anyone in the Pac 12. “Compete” is a broad word but I’ll be pleasantly shocked if they make it above 7th place.
CR= pretty good recruiter. Coaching leaves much to be desired. I was a student during Ralph’s magical run and graduated in ’84 with the AC Green, Charlie Sitton team. God they were fun to watch.
All passing fast breaks and smart b-ball. Miller did not tolerate mistakes and they would lead to a seat on the bench after they got a finger in the chest and some in your face yelling. I can’t believe this proud program has went in the toilet for so long.
CR=excellent recruiter. Coaching still an unkown. Miller’s first 4 years as a Beaver, 12-14, 18-10,15-11 & 13-13 before he got going with Radford, Blume, Johnson
He had some great teams at Iowa and was a proven coach. Like Lute going to Arizona. Only thing proven about CR is that he looks like his famous sister. Ducks got a proven coach and they got better as the season went on. I sure hope it comes together this year. 18-10 would look pretty good these days!
Does anybody know if the Beavs Women’s Soccer playoff game vs U.Portland tonight will be televised anywhere? I can’t find any info.
(can’t believe I’m actually more interested in the Women’s soccer team right now than the football team)
Ok.. soccer? How boring… and to top it off womens soccer? I think you need a new hobby lol.
If OSU didn’t have a football team, I’d be hard-pressed to find any redeeming value in that sport, especially given the debilitating effect it’s having on players physically and mentally. And the constant comparison to war or battle is just stupid as stupid gets, not to mention insulting to anyone who has to hear that garbage. It’s a simple game.
But it still stops too often, and the athletes are too specialized for anyone who likes action to say they get it. Sure there are some amazing athletic efforts and plays every now and then. But most of it is just execution.
That’s one thing I have to give to Chip Kelly. At least he keeps the game moving. Maybe the NCAA should cut the play clock to :15 instead of the :40 (?) it’s at now.
Now THAT would be exciting.
National sport of most nations with dictators………nuff said. The ultimate sport for the “everyone’s a winner generation.” Why are they having a tourney; shouldn’t they all get a participation medal and call it a day?
That was about the dumbest comment ever… nuff said.
Lighten up Francis. Maybe our former and future coach is on to something.
Not giving anybody a hard time about liking soccer, but the only reason it’s the world most popular sport is because it takes only a simple ball to play it. Hell, in Brazil the street kids wrap trash with rags and play soccer.
The more expensive the equipment required to play a sport the more exclusive it becomes.
Good point.
All kidding aside, if you have a kid playing soccer, make them wear a mouthguard. I’m a dentist in the hockey capital of the world, Minneapolis. The youth activity with highest number of facial injuries is soccer and it’s not even close statistically.
You speak as though you’ve been in combat. Am I reading that correctly?
I’d watch women play soccer if they were attractive. :/
The World Cup is phenomenal. Wish they could have it every year.
Volleyball all the way. Long legs in short shorts. Really is fun to watch and they get after it.
I assume you realize that the reason most women watch football is because of the tight pants – really is fun to watch and they get after it. And basketball, the bare shoulder and arm muscles – not so much the legs, (pants are too baggy) – really is fun to watch and they get after it. But rugby is the real deal: tree trunk legs and very short shorts, – really is fun to watch and they get after it.
If you haven’t scoped the OS women’s soccer team for “attractiveness” then you probably should. You also might want to consider the genetic material.
BTW This afternoon, the OS women’s bb team scored 96 points against an inadequate Western Oregon team.
Western O didn’t get after it, obviously. Too bad he is not coaching our mens team.
Good for you! The team has achieved whilst representing OS. They are beautiful, strong women who work hard and accomplish much.
I am always interested in the details and opinions about a particular game, player, or sport as seen by you bloggers, but when it comes to which activity you like, dislike, disdain, ridicule, laugh at or can’t stand – not so much. And if you apply that to women’s sports only – not at all.
Can any of them kick a football? We could use some competition for our place-kicker.
Colorado once had a woman placekicker – it didn’t go so well but not because she couldn’t placekick. It seems that girls participate in the PPK contests – they just don’t carry on in the sport. Perhaps they opt for soccer.
Paging Gary Barnett. CU dug themselves a deep hole that they still haven’t come out of.
So back to the original question, is tonights playoff game vs UPortland going to be televised anywhere? Or is Gametracker the best thing available for those who aren’t going down to Corvallis?
Yeah, I agree with most people on here that Soccer is not the most exciting sport because of the lack of scoring and all of the “almost” scoring opportunities, but this is a playoff game and features two local teams that represent the area well. U.P. always has future World Cup players on their team and has brought national championships to the area. Not many other sports can claim that. Also, this is an Oregon State team, so regardless of if you enjoy soccer or not, you are Beaver fans, right? Any success by any Beaver team is good for the school and is worthy of your support.
anybody know if stevenson is playing tommorow?
In the game or with Riley’s daughter?
Hi BN.. it’s me again. I know you have been waiting for me to weigh in on this weeks game. I’m feeling like the rest of you…. why bother?
I think they are (-10) to a moral victory and those were my speciality. So let’s play out the string, hope no one gets hurt and regroup for next year. It looks like MR will be returning, despite our collective efforts! JB
PS: JackBeav has been downgraded from “tool” to occasional tool. I’m starting to appreciate some of his voluminous material.
PPS: As some of you have noted I have an imitator. My coaching awesomeness was often copied, so I’m used to it. As annoying as I might be to some of you, I keep it clean.
congratulations
congratulations
As some of you may have seen, I’ve been going back and forth on Twitter with Paul Buker, criticizing Buker (and the other beat writers) for failing to ask tough questions of Riley and Banker.
Buker has now asked to be sent, via email, some tough questions to ask at next Tuesday’s OSU football press conference. Buker says he will ask the questions more or less verbatim. I think he’s serious this time….
Guys — How about a group effort to create some really good, tough questions over the next few days? I have some in mind, but as a group we could probably come up with some REALLY fun ones….
Should have real list and a for fun list.
A for fun list may be….well, fun. But I think this may be an opportunity we shouldn’t waste and Silver is a good candidate for organizing and phrasing serious questions.
An area I’d like to see explored is the performance of senior players, Remmers in particular. How does Riley account for his repeated penalties? And what is being done to correct his problems?
The lack of slant routes is another obvious question.
With the weak run blocking of the O line how does Riley not put in more two back sets and use two TE’s?
Why the very infrequent LB or Safety blitzes?
Just my 2 or 3 cents, thanks to Silver.
More possible questions: What keeps Riley/Langs from a little hurry up offense? Can’t two plays be occasionally called to avoid one huddle? When does (or will) Sean have the freedom to audible? Any chance he will be allowed to call some of his own plays?
Question 1: what are your plans for retirement?
LOL
Question 2: Would YOU want to throw behind that offensive line.
Question 3: On an honest scale of 1 and -10…where would you rate Remmers performance.?
Question 4: How’s your daughter lately?
Comments about his family are pretty classless and don’t reflect well on this board
Agreed. Family should never be a target.
I stopped over on PO the other day to see what they were up to, and they were in the midst of reveling in the pain of hurting children. And it royally pissed me off.
So leave family members out of it. And keep it all on the up and up. The coaches can deal with attacks on whatever you can imagine if they’re directed at them. That’s the nature of the job. But if you go after the innocents, it makes you the ass, the prick, the feeble-minded, dickless moron.
Wow. It’s funny how the line gets drawn with people. Sure, that joke wasn’t made in the best taste, but I thought that Buker won’t actually ask a tough question so I decided to make mock questions based on the inane chatter I’ve seen everyhwete about that subject. I don’t give a fuck about that.it I love that we now have a lame moral police to tell us all how a bunch of pissed off fans what they can and can’t make in jest.
I agree with you, the Penn State jokes are shitty. Weird…as I have such a limited moral code I wouldn’t have said that.
If I really wanted to be dickless I would key a car. But I am venting here.
Additionally the lifetime contract Riley has will always protect from being effected by said attack
s. He is going to be just fine with all that money fans donated to a job he can choose to be mediocre at. And he will be laughing the whole time.
Get off your fucking horses everyone.
We tell you families shouldn’t be brought into this and the best you can come up with is a profanity laced tirad? Showing a lot of cl(ass).
What was so funny on the sidelines?
It would be interesting to get the REAL answer to that question, but we never will. Angry has already noted MR’s response to that question (asked by the media after the Utah debacle):
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Coach Mike Riley said Sunday if he was laughing on the sidelines that it was because something ironic or ridiculously odd was happening. “There was nothing funny going on in that game,” Riley said.
http://cliffkirkpatrick.mvourtown.com/2011/10/30/utah-fallout-2/
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A hard-nosed reporter would have followed up — on the spot — and asked Riley exactly what was so ironic or ridiculously odd to make him yuk it up on the sidelines, for all the world to see, while the Beavs were falling apart on the field. Too late now for that, unfortunately…..
What would Banker feel about using a 3-4 defense since our 4-3 isn’t really working against the running game? Wouldn’t utilizing a 3-4 defense be able to utilize more speed on the edge and blitz a LB on every play? Basically, a LB could be used as a standing DT or DE.
Riley, why aren’t we utilizing the Wheel routes, TE dumps, and the WR inside screens more often? The wheel route seems to work nearly EVERY time, no?!
3-4 defense requires a huge fast nose tackle that will clog the middle and demand a double team. We don’t have that quality player, in fact they are pretty tough to find. Think 4-3 is better way to go but we need sound tackling, and creative blitzes to keep the other teams offensive line challenged on their blocking assignments. Banker has a challenge doing that partially because he has lost a bunch of experience due to injuries.
We’re talking the college game here. A 3-4 requires one space eater. An elite space-eater is hard to find, but one who can just direct traffic to the 3 and 5-techs is pretty easy.
And OSU has plenty of 5-techs.
Sorry, I guess that should be 3 and 5 teq’s, not techs.
I would like to know why Riley doesn’t believe in gamers. It’s pretty obvious that there are players in the game who are there because they’re practicers, because that’s what the coaches tell us in their annual “I hope we maybe some day find something resembling an identity” mantra. But some of them in no way have ever resembled gamers. How are we going to find out if we have any gamers if all our coach believes in is practicers?
I’d like to know this, too.
I would like Buker to ask simply “Mike, why has your program regressed, how soon can you fix it and how long should the administration give you to accomplish that?
These are very good questions, but I suspect MR would evade them with something like this: “We were doing great until James Rodgers went down against AZ last season, and then Quizz left early, and we’ve had a lot of injuries and bad breaks since then, and now we are a young team that is getting better each week, and on track to surprise some people next year….and these things go in cycles and the Beavs will be back….blah blah blah.” To get past this sort of happy talk, we probably need to pose very specific questions, and doggedly push for answers to these specific questions, one at a time….
MIke, if you didn’t have a lifetime contract with a huge buyout do you think you’d be fired at the end of this season?
That’s EXACTLY what my high school head football coach and co. thought when they played players and I wasn’t a true practice player, I was a gamer in high school. I played my ass off in games, but not so much in practice. Our team sucked balls due to the “play practice players and not realize who are gamers”.
I am a bit more interested in the OSU-Cal game than Angry because there have been some enjoyable contests between the two programs in recent history. Riley’s success against Cal has been one of the main things he could hang his hat on. Problem is I see the trend against Cal finally starting a reversal this Saturday. The game should have its entertaining moments and I don’t think OSU will look horrible but lack of progress like Angry mentions means this team will most likely not be able to put a complete game together. I see us staying too pass dependent. Until we garner a running game to complement the passing our odds of winning games will remain pretty low.
Cal 31, OSU 20
OSU @ Cal (AT&T Park) Preview:
http://beaverbyte.com
And to everyone who on message boards or in person told me last year that I was just stupid for saying out loud that Laz Jones was a terrible PG who would be the downfall of any team he was on…
SUCK IT!!!
I was never a fan of his. I never understood how anyone could honestly think he was a good PG. 1 for 11 from the field? Yikes. UCLA has been overrated from the start. 17th ranking was a joke. They have good inside play with the Wear twins and Reeves Nelson but have no guard play to speak of at all. They can’t shoot from the outside. If you play zone on them they will struggle to score. Joshua Smith also is going to be an issue fro them. He is out of shape and doesn’t a whole lot out there.
The conference as a whole has not looked good. No different than the previous couple years. Cal and Stanford are the only teams in the conference who have looked good in their regular season games albeit against highly inferior competition.
Not to Reeves Nelson on the SI!
I meant to say “and now Reeves Nelson on the cover of SI”. Also, as I keep reading, they have the Ducks in the tourney.
Time for Phil:
Final Cal home game at AT&T Park and a change of venue could be good for Bears as they’ve dropped 5 straight at home vs OSU including 4 straight ATS (all as a fav). In their trip to OSU last year Cal lost starting QB Riley in the 1Q to a season ending knee injury and was no match afterwards trailing 28-0 at halftime (Cal’s only score came with :20 left in the game). The Cal D dominated for a 2nd consecutive home game, this time vs WSU (has held L/2 home opponents to negative rush yards at the half) as they tossed a shutout for the 1st 3Q in the 30-7 win. While OSU ended up with a 25 pt loss LW vs Stanford, the game was much closer than the final as they actually had the ball in the 3Q trailing by just 4. OSU is 9-2 ATS as a conference away dog but it’s abundantly clear that this squad is young and in the process of a substantial rebuilding process.
CALIFORNIA 23 Oregon St 17
For once, I’m going to have to disagree with Phil. I have absolutely no idea how it is that Riley has Tedford’s number… he just does.
Cal is great in the front seven, but they are uncharacteristically weak in the secondary. They will over-pursue, and they will play themselves ut of position.
And I think Riley works it all out to take at least this one.
37-17Beavs.
Dammit, Jack with that kind of thinking Riley will be here until 2019!!!
I see another 25yd rushing day and Mannion on his ass the whole game. Pressure will lead to sacks and interceptions,and another loss.
Penn State needs MR! Let us pray that it happens.
I’d like to know why Riley has so much trouble with in-game/clock management and using challenges, etc. To me it seems like he’s so nice he doesn’t want to throw the flag and question/humiliate the refs…it comes off as him caring more about hurting the refs’ feelings than winning the game.
I think we are making some inroads with Riley. I was at my son’s soccer game this morning and an older gentleman was wearing a Beaver fleece and I was wearing a Beaver hat. After we exchanged pleasantries the gentlemen just blurted out “I think it’s time to change the coach, Riley has used up his usefullness”. I laughed out loud in agreement!
Will there be a link for the N7 game and the OSU vs. Cal game?
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91532/1/watch-oregon-st.-vs-california.html
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91661/1/watch-csu-bakersfield-vs-oregon-st.html
Here are the links to the games!
Football game:
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91532/1/watch-oregon-st.-vs-california.html
Basketball game:
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91661/1/watch-csu-bakersfield-vs-oregon-st.html
Bless you and thanks!
Link to the OSU vs. CAL game:
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91532/1/watch-oregon-st.-vs-california.html
Link to the UC Bakersfield vs. OSU game:
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91661/1/watch-csu-bakersfield-vs-oregon-st.html
Jesus….Oklahoma state up on Texas Tech 49-0………going into half-time!
Does anyone have an online radio link for the basketball game? All I can find are links for the football game. Thanks
here’s the video.
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91661/1/watch-csu-bakersfield-vs-oregon-st.html
the radio is probably on kpam.
Angry, you hit on something here that I think is very important for folks to realize. That fact is that you can only use the “young and inexperienced” excuse for so long. At some point, these players have to show they are learning something and getting better. I’m seeing no change. That is a scary prospect for next year. I will just shake my head and laugh when folks will be optimistic about next season because of all the experience our freshmen got. So what! Who the hell cares! Experience is useless if you don’t actually show you can learn something from them and get better!