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Texas @ Oregon State (East Rutherford)

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Jack

This game will be a fun one if both teams hold true to their early formulas for success. Both teams like to harass the opposition on defense, and both teams will run if given the opportunity. Texas comes into the game with the confidence of sustained success within the program over several years, and the Beavs seem to have finally found a new confidence of their own. Up and down the line-ups, it’s hard to find any real mismatches on either side, so it will be a matter of who makes their shots to determine the winner.

Texas implements a variation of Ralph Miller’s 1-4 offense. They will run at the Beavs with a three guard set for most of the game unless the Beavs size becomes a real factor. Junior G J’Covan Brown (6’1″) is the key to their offense, but they rely heavily on the frosh G quartet of Myck Kabongo (6’1″), Julien Lewis (6’3″), Sheldon McClellan (6’4″) and Sterling Gibbs (6’1″), with the first two starting. All five can score at times, but Brown is the only one who can sustain any real scoring pace. The frosh do have ball security issues as well, but Kabongo is so quick in the open court that he can find space at will and make good decisions in traffic. Brown and Kabongo make a living from the line, so moving the feet on defense will be keys against both.

Their frontcourt is smallish compared to the Beavs. They start senior Alex Wangmene (6’7″) at post and frosh Jonathan Holmes (6’7″) at the power swing. And they spell them with frosh Jaylen Bond (6’7″) and Canby native, senior Clint Chapman (6’10″). Of these four, Holmes is the player which we should be most concerned. He is very active on the boards and also works his way to the line for some free tosses. Bond is similar in style, but he seems to be lost some of the time. If he decides to participate every moment he’s on the floor, he could be just as effective as Holmes. Regardless, the Beavs need to put bodies on the Texas bigs and control the glass from start to finish.

Texas is an outside-in team who will run a lot of screens and cuts to the hoop for easy cripples. Their defense is active, but they have a tendency to slap more than shuffle. And it’s not because of youth. Kabongo is the most polished defender due to his quickness, while Brown could be susceptible to foul trouble early if he’s not immediately and continuously focused. So we will see them fall back into a 2-3 zone for probably half the game. In fact, I would think the Beavs size advantage would force them into the zone quite a bit more than head coach Rick Barnes would like.

The keys to this game will be for the Beavs to use their size to win the key first, then make their outside shots second. If Moreland and Brandt can be aggressive without getting too physical, they could aid Joe and Devon in dominating the glass. But it will take some great communication to keep an active Texas off the boards. Look also for the Beavs D to create TO’s in order to get out and run. Texas does counter their size disadvantage with good speed, so there will be less uncontested breaks than we’ve seen previously. Finishing with contact may be necessary more than once in this game.

Because of Texas’ speed, I don’t want to say that the Beavs have an advantage in the transition game. But our boys have shown thus far that they can hustle down the floor in a hurry. I think this game may be a lot faster than even we want to see. Depth and patience will be important.

In the end, it will all come down to perimeter shooting. It’s the greatest equalizer when faced with a size disadvantage, and Texas has it in spades. If the Beavs can shoot treys with consistency this might be a long night for Texas.

So I have to be conditional in my pick for this game.

If the Beavs come out with the same confidence and fire they’ve played with thus far AND they make their perimeter shots, then they will win something like 95-87.

If we have the same game from the floor we saw against Hofstra, then Texas will run it out as far as they can before the Beave make it an uncomfortable finish for them. Texas will win with about the same score the other way.

Angry

I'll leave the analysis to Jack. 

Things I haven't liked thus far:

  • Team doesn't seem to understand or value each possession
  • Shaky defense
  • Missed free throws
  • Too many unforced turnovers
  • Forcing threes rather than taking them within the flow of the game

Everything else has been solid.

Teams with size will give the Beavs trouble, but Texas has only average bigs. I want to go with the Longhorns since they're traditionally a good squad, but the Beavs are upstarts with growing confidence. The Beavs also have impressive depth. This is a really interesting match up. Gun to my head I'd say Texas, but definitely feel the Beavs can win this game. However, I'm stopping short of saying they should win. Beavs need to earn that respect on the court first.

Texas, 81-77

 

141 COMMENTS

  1. I think this game will be played at a very high tempo. I think is the game where Roberto Nelson puts it together and has a big game. I think he will put in about 18 points. I think the Beavers shooting from deep will be much better. J’Covan Brown is the main guy the Beavers have to find a way to contain. He’s a big time scorer. If the Beavers can contain him a little they’ll win this game. Also, the Beavers need to get the ball inside a lot as well. With having a height advantage they should be able to get a lot of buckets around the rim. Hopefully Collier has another big game. He’s capable of it tonight.

    Free throw shooting is another key. If the Beavers don’t shoot better from the line they won’t win the game. Collier is the main guy who needs to shoot better. He’ll get his share of free throws, needs to knock em down.

    I really like the Beavers in this one. It will be a close game and both teams will score, but the Beavers will find a way to win this one, 86-81.

    I think the Beavers will beat NC St or Vanderbilt. This is the tougher test, IMO.

  2. really like the pregame analysis – great stuff. we will have a better idea of what this beaver team can do after tonight. first time on road this year against a rebuilding longhorn team that is very young. hopefully beavs can steal a W. they will if they can cut down on dumb tunovers and get more active around the basket – and box out.

  3. Holy crap. The free throws aren’t falling. I wonder sometimes why the coach doesn’t make them shot the FTs underhanded. Oh that’s right it would look dorky. Screw that. make them shoot ’em underhanded until they can make them the “normal” way.

  4. Beavers are down 5 and have played minimal defense. That’s a good sign. If they can get focused and play some good defense in the second half they can win this game.

  5. Until tonight I’d forgotten about those times last season where CR would get that “deer caught in the headlights” look in his eyes. I saw that look a couple times tonight.

  6. man we are going to lose games due to our foul shooting. Glad to see they pulled this out one though. Amazing performance down the stretch by the whole team especially Cunningham.

  7. That was kind of weird clock management by Chipster. They had all of their timeouts, just drive hard for the game winning TD. I guess Chip is human.

  8. Best day to be a Beaver in a long time. My internet crapped out during OT…when it came back I was shocked to see the Beavs up 4 and Cunningham on the line. Amazing win…the hoops team has great chemistry. I’m a believer?? Cautiously…these Beavs can break your heart.

  9. I said it at the beginning of the season; Jared will be the best player on the court in MANY games this season, including this one. He is absolutely phenomenal.

    Roberto didn’t seem to make many shots, but he came up big on D and made some great passes.

    And Brandt is ROOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2.0 bigger, stronger, faster.

    • Cunningham has really become Payton redux, but actually a better outside shot already. When Payton started with the Sonics all he would do was shoot layups and pass the ball.

  10. Cunningham is amazing not only for his prowess but for his resilience. He’s been beaten up – literally – in the last two games. Not sure why the refs don’t take more care. I assume these officials weren’t from the Pac-12. Yet, they were every bit as awful.

  11. Looking at the box score I’m surprised to see that Texas was called for more fouls than the Beavs. 35 – 27

    Geez, it seemed like it was 42 to 20 against the Beavs.

    Also, the Beavs FT shooting was almost the same as Texas. OSU 72.1% vs 73.3% for Texas. Here again it seemed like the Beavs shot about 50% from the free throw line.

    Obviously I’m not seeing things as they truly are.

  12. Great game tonight. Really happy for these guys to go back to New Jersey and get a “W” against a talented Texas team. Still way too early to make predictions on the season, but I am loving what I’m seeing so far. There was no selfish, one-on-one play that we saw last year from the seniors.

    They have stuff they need to continue to work on, but they stuck and worked together to get it done in the end and they deserve to celebrate this victory tonight. Loved how Robinson yelled out to his guys to not let Texas roll the ball up the floor late in OT, unlike his predecessor failed to do against Washington in 2004, which is something I can never forget, unfortunately.

    Does anyone know anything about Vandy? I know they beat Oregon fairly easily, but lost to Cleveland State. Great weekend for OSU athletics!

      • One of Vandy’s best players, Festus (sp?) is out with an injury. Their PG Brad Tinsley is from Oregon City, OR. I heard a sateillite radio show with their head coach, he said he actually thinks they are ranked too high given their current injury status. Their coach also said that they struggled with the speed and athleticism of Cleveland State.

        • We are playing Vandy at the ideal time with big man Festus Ezeli suspended for accepting illegal benefits, and then injuring his knee at practice. Vandy has one of the best shooting guards in the nation in John Jenkins, who led the SEC in scoring last year. Looking forward to Jared going to battle checking him. Forward Jeffery Taylor is a solid player from Sweden who was named last year to the All-SEC 2nd team and All-defensive 1st team. All three were preseason All-SEC 1st teamers.

          draftexpress.com predicts Jenkins, Taylor, and Ezeli as 1st round picks in 2012.

    • Vandy can absolutely stroke it from deep. If the Beavers can contain Vandy’s outside shooting and force turnovers they will win. Vandy has nobody who can guard Jared 1 on 1. His quickness and athleticism will be a major issue for Vandy. He should a lot of free throws. Beavers gotta do a better job of knocking down free throws. I think the Beavers will win.

    • His quote:

      “For any athlete, the first school that offers you, you automatically like that school; it’s going to put a big smile on your face,” Tyner said. “So I gave Oregon State a lot of attention, and I really loved it in Corvallis, and the coaches are amazing, they made me feel like family. Then I went down to the Sacramento State game … and that wasn’t too pretty. I ended up leaving at halftime. It seems like their sports are going down, and Oregon, I don’t know, I just like it down there. It’s awesome.”

      • Ha! Is that it?

        Poor kid, He isn’t a football player. You know what i mean… or you should. He can play, but he won’t play more than 1/4 of his potential career on the gridiron.

        Dude is something more special than a football player. He is an Olympic athlete. He’s a potential international superstar. And every snap he takes in football is like a normal human smoking one more cigarette. I just can’t take part in his destruction.

      • Hopefully, BDC takes Tyner’s remark to heart, but my fantasy would be that the Beavs have a hard assed new head coach and a group of linebackers by the time Tyner gets some playing time (if can every stay healthy) and make him wish he had been a bit more tactful in his choice of words by say the 2015 Civil War.

    • He probably could have just as well said that running track is a big deal for him and since it is essentially on-existent at OSU, he will be taking his talents to the ducks.

      that said, once he gets the salary offers, he could end up changing his commitment.

      Plus, he might actually want some playing time, and if he is going to get Seastrunked, he may want to rethink and choose a school which has a dearth of RB’s that he can play at immediately.

    • yeah, its really too bad.

      in the LSU Alabama game, we essentially saw that LSU had better field goal kickers. Both had fairly average offenses not commensurate with ranks #1&2. Both had elite defenses.

      I don’t like Oregon, but I will admit that I would have preferred them to lose because they were thoroughly outplayed. Not because they missed a field goal that most teams could make.

      I thought they did quite well against SC in the second half. I doubt we have a shot against them, however beatable they seem. USC lands more ***** talent than any other school in the nation most years. We simply don’t have the talent that will cause an upset.

  13. I know it’s early, but Jared Cunningham is third in the nation in scoring, averaging 26 PPG. That’s awesome. He’s such a great player. He will have a monster season.

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