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  3. I’m checking out on this thread. Clearly snow tires have something to do with something other than what they have to do with what they have to do.

    I think?

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  4. It’s from a Seinfeld episode where George Costanza proposes snow tire day while working for the Yankees in order to setup a meeting with a former accquintance who had made a joke about him. I’m a Seinfeld junkie

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  6. Give Riley a break dammit. In a critical off-season, the man has reevaluated “everything,” made no discernible changes to his program, held a non-scrimmage, let seven players go, and doggedly pursued, and secured, one player commitment. What about all of that suggests complacency?

    To extend this further, read the following summary of critical reviews of the British comedy, and insert “football” for “comedy” – waaaaaay too accurate Angry:

    “Critical reception

    …The Daily Telegraph noted that it was “another half-hour firmly on Planet Sitcom: that strange world where people behave not like anybody in real life, but merely like people in other sitcoms”.[5] The Daily Record called it a “lazy insult of a comedy”.[6] The Northern Echo observed that “there was something missing for a comedy – jokes”;[7]

    and perhaps the most applicable:

    “The Daily Mirror comments that there are “some witty moments but these are drowned out by more regular unfunny happenings, so unimaginative and staid it’s embarrassing”.

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    • missed this one:

      “The Scotsman reviewed it by noting that it “feels like a parody, this time of the kind of bland, mechanical, family sitcom they supposedly don’t make anymore”.

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    • Or maybe OSU’s new logo should be of a white flag, since they will basically be surrendering all but two games this season.

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    • Are you even aware of the context in which he was speaking? I’ll jump on board with something relevant, but you’re just making him look good here.

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      • It’s obvious he’s talking about the new practice facility. His mannerisms make him look like a doofus. I’m being petty.

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        • Ever think that maybe his mannerisms are the byproduct of his Parkinson’s disease? Hate to say it, but we’re watching the guy deteriorate before our eyes. You have to at least give him credit for being courageous enough to keep working at a job where he has to speak in public so often, but at the same time, I hope he’s courageous enough to know when it’s time to walk away too.

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    • I like this video a lot, and I’m looking forward to more of it. Someone’s doing good work in the Athletic Department.

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      • I think it’s Taylor Kavanaugh. He started with the BWOB documentary, and now he’s doing Oregon-centric (OSU, PSU, Nikegon) related videos for marketing. I think the official sub name is quarter4sports (?). Anyway, it seems that BWOB documentary was so well done that the marketing group at OSU started to move away from the stale mentality that every OSU vid had to be a cheesy strobe with second-level AC/DC music. They saw that simple and elegant emoted much more power and told a sincere story. Compare it to the “I Believe” vids for Quizz’ Heisman hype. The videography and audio were excellent, but the premise was cheesy. I think that was a crossover time for OSU going from wannabe to professional.

        And it’s not like many other schools have been able to do this. It takes considerable resources to make some of these videos. Coupled with specific “identity” constraints for other schools, their vids end up being as completely cheesy as something like “Fear the Spear.” This is one area where not having a cohesive brand has probably helped. Kavanaugh and others like him have been able to exert a quiet quality without much push back.

        Now we get to hear these stories from a professional storyteller instead of some micro-managing marketing guru (or guru wannabe). It’s much more effective IMO.

        Where I think BWOB failed was not going public with all the social media available. Sometimes planting a seed is more important than asking people to pay to see the fruit. I think letting people see these vids on broad and free platforms gets them thinking about how they can be (or get re-) involved with OSU in the future rather than lamenting their inability to give immediately. Making them exclusionary to paying customers means you segment your audience right off the bat.

        I think they may be learning from that mistake as well. Here’s an excellent vid about the SAE team, which is really an unprecedented vid in terms of effort and production. I don’t think there’s another school doing anything quite this good even if they’re in the same ball park.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD9n_HDzhvo

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    • This is how naiive I am, how the hell does osu go from track icon Dick Fosbury to not having a track program?
      Regardless, it is exciting to see the progress back towards track lately.

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    • Dude, your act has been old, stale, boring, etc… for the last couple of months. Basically the same thing your accusing the coaching staff of being. Why don’t you lead the coaching staff by example and re-evaluate your posts for the rest of the offseason, and come back here in the fall with something new, witty or meaningful to add instead of your annoying drivel.

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      • Dude, my posts ever since I found Angry have been truthful, honest and motivating to those in Beaver nation who want to see our football program be more than mediocre. And please do not as me to lead OSU football coaching staff anywhere……they are deaf and blind anyway. Oh, and may not want to read anyone’s posts in the fall, if you know what I mean.

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      • But can Fightingbeaver recruit? We know Riley can’t.

        The only thing you didn’t include was a “let’s hear a hip hip hooray”. Isn’t that the Riley cheer?

        Oh yeah, 7 more years of following Riley lead football. I CAN’T WAIT!!!!

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  13. I just saw that the Blue Ribbon preview for Oregon State just came out but it’s paid content on ESPN. Anyone here have that?

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  14. What’s the latest in the recruiting world? Has OSU received any more commits? Any bites or nibbles? Has there been anything looking somewhat remotely positive for OSU in the recruiting department? (I’m sure Angry or Jack would have posted something by now if there was anything news worthy to post, but I was just curious) hey, all we have anymore is hope!

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    • By pointing out the unproven OSU offensive line and running game, Miller actually raises some valid points about picking the Beavers that high.

      I don’t know that I would watch another sun bowl if they got there, unless the offense was REALLY rolling and the DE’s and LB’s were going crazy on opponents.

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      • I think someone said in the comments (or maybe Ted said it) that Washington State would be better suited for the Sun Bowl because their fans would travel. Anything less than Holiday Bowl would be somewhat disappointing. If Mike Riley doesn’t get us there this year or next then I will get on board with replacing him.

        I am clearly a lot more optimistic about the season than most folks.

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      • I strongly believe that this season comes down to or ability to run the ball as well as stop the run. Last season when we were able to run the ball (minus sac st) we were able to win. Also losing Castro hurt us stopping the run, he might not have been a Stephen Paea type of d-tackle, but we played better against the run when he was on the field, same could be said about having Unga on the field.

        The 2008 sun bowl might be the worst sun bowl of all time, but the 2006 sun bowl could be one of the best sun bowls of all time. So if the beavers make it this year, I’ll for sure watch it.

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    • It’s Gemmel… the same one who gave nothing but a link in a whole-league link run-down and decided to title the post something like, “Beaver Fans Need to Relax.”

      So apparently he doesn’t think we need to relax?

      Why does everyone have UW ahead of OSU in their minds? They do know that their poor O-line just got FUBAR over the off-season. No? And they don’t have the benefit of one the very top O-line classes and healthy returnees coming in to help them fill their holes.

      I don’t think people understand how monumentally bad our O-line has been for the last couple years. I figured it was pointless to argue with anyone who thought 20 or 30 starts made a really bad O-lineman suddenly average, let alone good. What made them look halfway decent in previous years were other linemen who actually knew how to play and could compensate for them. Take away all compensation, and our only good O-lineman gets killed and put on the sideline as a result.

      UW fans are going to be really upset with this coming season. Their O-line will remind us of our 2010 O-line. It will get better over time because their newbies are decent to good players. But 2012 will be a painful season for them.

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      • *I don’t think people understand how monumentally bad our O-line has been for the last couple years. I figured it was pointless to argue with anyone who thought 20 or 30 starts made a really bad O-lineman suddenly average, let alone good. What made them look halfway decent in previous years were other linemen who actually knew how to play and could compensate for them. Take away all compensation, and our only good O-lineman gets killed and put on the sideline as a result.*

        Can’t understate the Quizz factor in the equation either. I remember how pissed he was during and after games at how inept the Oline was. How that guy got the yards he did behind that shit line is beyond me.

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    • “… Beavers at #5 in the PAC 12 and a trip to the Sun Bow…”

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Thanks, I needed that! :-)

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  17. So… just catching up from short road trip.

    What’s all the angst regarding Fightingbeaver about? His stuff seems like fairly pedestrian MR/BDC bashing. In other words angrybeavs favorite pastime. IMO he presents nothing really insightful or notable but not objectionable. What is his big offense? JB

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  18. Well guys, pounce on me if you will, I can handle it. And for those of you who say my Mike Riley and BDC criticism get old, I can’t wait until I read the threads 5th game into the football season. I apologize to those I offend, my only objective is to educate those who still believe Riley is our man.

    I for one am just sick and tired of watching our young football players, game after game, look like they would rather be someplace else rather than on the football field. I don’t blame them at all. Ducks don’t even say anything bad about Beavers football because they feel sorry for our program and they don’t have to worry about us as a threat. I am just tired of our team losing, of other teams being successful or at least trying to reach goals like a BCS bowl.

    So I will, for all of you I irritate, abide by your request to shut up. It is sad though, that members of this forum and that of Beaver Nation can allow what is taking place in our football program. I have tried to do my part to show changes are needed. I guess now it is up to you.

    Regards, fightingbeaver

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    • Yes, but your one argument against the unseen pollyannas on this site makes it look like you’re in a constant “I know you are, but what am I” against some ghost.

      Once you drag it to ground, you don’t have to jump up and down on it and scream, “LOOK AT ME!”

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    • Not really the right forum for educating anyone as to the problems with Mike Riley–you are largely preaching to the choir. I think the closest this site sees to Pollyannas are the maybe 3 posters who question the notion that Mike Riley is responsible for everything bad in the world, including the weather over Reser on gameday.

      You do raise an interesting question in the first paragraph regarding what threads will look like 5 games into the season. I assume you expect us to be doing poorly at that point. How do people honestly see us finishing this season, and at what point does Riley actually get credit for something? Does he need to take this team to a Rose Bowl. 8 wins? 7 wins? 6 wins?

      I’d be interested to know where people think this team should actually finish talent wise, then we can compare with where they actually finish and talk about whether Riley gets credit for overachieving.

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      • “…question the notion that Mike Riley is responsible for everything bad in the world, including the weather over Reser on game day.” Ha! Well said.

        I have a sizable bet with a friend who set the over-under at 6 wins (I took over). From what I can tell, it’s mostly people on this forum that are super critical of Mike Riley. It doesn’t seem like people on Oregon Live want him gone as badly. I’m no authority, but for the sake of fun I would say that 6 wins won’t appease this crowd at all, 7 wins and most people will say Mike Riley is lucky or claim that he wouldn’t have been able to reach 7 without our best player. 8 wins would likely silence most people for a year but the complaints would still roll in that Mike Riley blew it against one team or another because he did something wrong that the armchair QB would never be guilty of.

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      • “at what point does Riley actually get credit for something? ”

        I’ll give MR credit for either: nine wins with no obvious changes in his public attitude, or, 7-8 wins if in doing so he shows, publicly, a significant step up in passion, involvement, attitude, pulse rate, and leadership. If he makes those changes the team will achieve more than six wins; a six win season IMO will reflect primarily the players improvement/experience and not so much MR’s coaching.

        As said before, watch Riley’s actions and words and by the UCLA game we will know if he has his head in the game more so than 2011.

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        • The players improve over time both due to Riley’s coaching and their own internal drive. They compliment each other, and it’s the coaches job to unlock it and develop it. I think even the biggest Riley critic in here could admit that he’s (and his staff) able to develop players. There’s other ways to measure player development then by looking at wins alone.

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    • My only complaint is that you rattle off basically the same speech with different phrasing on about every single blog post. For the most part the people who read/comment on this site know/acknowledge there are some foundational issues with the football program. It is called angry beavers. Your posts get so redundant I imagine most of us skip over what you write, missing good information if/when you put it out there. If your trying to “awaken” beaver nation then oregonlive and Cliff’s blog would be the places to go. Most the of readers here are already in various stages of “awake”.

      But by all means, keep posting what you want. Don’t let me be the one to censor you. I was mainly offering constructive criticism from one who reads often but posts rarely.

      Pettibonehead- regarding Shamless, supposedly the British version is just as good. Haven’t had a chance to check it out myself yet.

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      • Thanks.. I’ve heard the same. I’m planning to get around to ordering it, maybe some slow Saturdays in the fall? I mentioned here before that, IMO, the British version of “The Office” was much better than the American knock-off. JB

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    • What will be your new screen name?

      Maybe you’re giving yourself the impression that you carry too much power and influence. That criticism on the internet will create change in the program. I like to think that I’m critical of elements of the program, and discussing it is interesting. But I limit my talking about it in a similar way to talking about a current political topic with a fox news follower. It’s fun, but I’m not really creating change.

      At the same time I’m excited for the season to start. I’ll be excited for each game, whether they win 3 or 8 games. Of course winning 3 will suck big time, but I can’t help but get excited.

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    • It would appear that the same thing is happening here as what’s happened on the pure orange website. Some Riley fans make an effort to quell any and all dissent from the fans. Over there some of them are even ballsy enough to admit that they’re employees of OSU where as here we all hide our identities.

      For me it’s very discouraging to see OSU football and our country both going down the tubes at the same time. And for the most part no one has the balls to tell it like it is and if they do they are shouted down (OSU message boards) or ignored (national press).

      The double whammy: being an American and an OSU fan.

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      • Mud and Sticks, I can practically see what’s written in the history books of the future: “..and much like the fall of the Great American Empire, it was paralleled by the demise of Oregon State Football. Beaver fans sat complacent, much like the populace of a nation. Those who spoke out against the administration were silenced. After the collapse, all that could be heard from them was “I told you so”.

        Lighten up a bit. Both the country and OSU football will get through this. I’m not sure you’ll get this response, though, because your bunker probably doesn’t have wifi. I hope it has cable, because otherwise you’ll miss some good games this fall. Are you sure you’re reading the posts on this page when you say people are quelling dissent? You do know it’s called Angrybeavs, right?

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  19. For a change of pace…

    There’s been some buzz about Lawrence Mattison for the last couple days. I thought Brasfield offered him back in April, but oh well. It gave me a second look at him. And I have to say his story is compelling.
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/high_school/article/Running-past-the-past-2079650.php

    And his game is pretty good too.
    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7940633

    He’ll probably be recruited heavily later. But I like him now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkyDDLFomuQ=3m20sec

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  21. OSU gets a WR to commit.

    Oh wow, I’ve got a wet spot on my pants leg.

    Oh wait, I just went to the bathroom and I’m dribbling.

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