Quite the coup-détat!
I view this as bullish for Riley getting canned and/or retiring. Bearish for any shot at a Rose Bowl (Sark was much easier to beat, and Riley couldn’t do that).
Oregon should watch out, too. Washington could be the next dynasty in the PNW. Within two years, if not sooner, I expect that gap to close significantly.
Washington fans can now dream big. It must be nice.
*Petersen
“I view this as bullish for Riley getting canned and/or retiring.”
Never gonna happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTdO-w3xnpw
Haha.
I think it can happen. With enough pressure. The team is supposed to be good next year, so if he under performs again fans will be calling for his head louder than right now. He might retire at that point…that is the more likely scenario.
If Beavs aren’t in a good bowl next year, I think Riley will retire.
Spot on, and very close to a post I made a few days ago.
But if Washington is the big winner here, USC is the equally big loser. What could they possibly have been thinking? Mind boggling. Sarkisian is strikingly similar to Kiffin. Great recruiter who finds a way to get incredibly mediocre results out of great talent. The final product is much less than the sum of the parts.
USC likes the scummy, snake oil salesman type guys (probably for recruiting purposes). Peterson wasn’t a fit.
Petersen isn’t a fit in LA on Petersen’s end. He’s a great fit when it comes to winning games. Apparently USC doesn’t value that right now.
Would have been such a great fit at OSU.
Not really. His kid still has health issues and he needs to be close to a legit hospital. That’s not Corvallis, obviously.
Ummm… that’s not true. When his son did have health issues 12 years ago, he traveled from Eugene to Portland where the boy was getting treatment. But the kid’s healthy now and has been for a long time.
Beaver fans are going to have mental health issues from this.
It’s really depressing to see the Pac-12 landscape actively changing around us while we sit on our hands. The talent gap between us and the rest of the league is expanding at an exponential pace and we are quickly going to be left behind.
Obviously, it’s going to take a last place finish next year to even begin to put the wheels in motion for a change but I would rather sacrifice one year and force a change than wait until 2016 to MAYBE have BDC exit via termination or resignation. Not to mention, if we go to a bowl this year we extend RIley to 2021.
Peterson moves into an NFL-caliber stadium, a major metro area, great history of success in big games…I think he’ll recruit well. If he can beat the Ducks in Autzen and Bosie with his recruits to BSU, what will he do at UW?
If the upperclassmen return, and there are no significant injury problems to use as excuses; than Riley et al will be all out of excuses in 2014. A continuing trend downward may encourage him to take the quiet way out and retire as Angry suggests above.
Isn’t Riley retiring our ONLY option with his contract at this point? I know there are a multitude of budget numbers floating around but I don’t see a firing and/or buyout coming anytime soon.
Well, there is a possibility if we have a big enough donor who’s upset enough to cut a buyout check (or at least the vast majority of it).
$750,000 x 3 years
$500,000 x the remainder
$4,250,000 if we don’t get a bowl game this year, $4,750,000 if we do. That’s a lot of risk for only a potential reward.
I think that all things considered, the better option is shit-canning Danny, Cav and Read, hiring some guys who can coach, recruit and inject a ‘we can win’ attitude into the program, and spend whatever money we get on the new valley center upgrade. If we get a ‘coach in waiting’ offensive coordinator and we start playing well, I think donations would increase to the point where we could find somebody willing to pay that buyout to keep a hotshot OC around, just as Oregon did.
Here’s to 6-6 seasons for the next 5 years. Next year might be our last chance w/ Mannion and Co., to get back to the highly sought after 8-4 season (per BDC).
That may be a best case scenario.
My hat’s off to Mr. Petersen for turning down So Cal, UCLA and $4M for the NW, UW and $?.
Actually I was wondering if he was starting to lose his touch the way Boise played this year but every really good program has their off years so their performance was probably nothing more than that.
I sure don’t like the direction the OSU program is headed. Make that the direction of the OSU athletic department in general is headed.
Luck of the Beaver fans, eh?
I was at at CE conference and spotted a friend who is a UW grad. Stopped by to to raz him about losing his coach and got “we hired Peterson” as a reply. Thought he was puilling my chain until he pulled the link up on his phone. We are going to be fighting it out with Cal for last place. Hip, hip…
Great hire by Washington.
Not a home run…….a grand slam.
More like a Moons Over My Hammy.
I see there are about 2,500 tickets on Stubhub to tomorrow’s Pac-12 championship game in Tempe. Unbelievable. Remember last year’s Stanford stadium being half empty?
It would be ASU’s 3rd Rose Bowl appearance all time and their first in 17 years.
I know at this year’s Beaver game the stadium was only about 2/3 full. They did sell out their game with the Badgers however.
I’m just surprised there hasn’t been more support for Pac champ games, even in Autzen a few years ago against UCLA was weak.
PAC is not known for real rabid fan bases for football and Stanford will not travel well due to their small alumni base. Still, one would think they could fill it up with the curiosity factor in such a large metro area. If I lived there, I’d go.
Maybe Peterson will suck at coaching in a major conference the way his predecessor (i.e., Hawkins) did when he left BSU for Colorado?
Beavs won’t be getting any better under Riley and he’s not going anywhere so here’s to hoping that the competition gets worse.
Oregon’s If this is accurate, OSU truly is stuck in neutral:
”
11. Washington’s Chris Petersen: $3.6 million
25. USC’s Lane Kiffin: $2.594 million*
26. Washington’s Steve Sarkisian: $2.575 million**
33. Utah’s Kyle Whittingham: $2.427 million
35. Colorado’s Mike MacIntyre: $2.403 million
36. California’s Sonny Dykes: $2.394 million
37. Arizona State’s Todd Graham: $2.303 million
38. UCLA’s Jim Mora: $2.300 million
40. Washington State’s Mike Leach: $2.25 million
45. Arizona’s Rich Rodriguez: $2.15 million
56. Oregon’s Mark Helfrich: $1.8 million
64. Oregon State’s Mike Riley: $1.417 million”
There’s no way BDC can respond creatively to this kind of context….
If we cut back on the free popcorn, we’ve got a chance.
If no bowl . . . does the $500,000 that was designated to Riley to play in a bowl in 2013 actually exist? to be applied elsewhere? or is it simply an IOU?
Montana’s Will Dissly commited to Boise State the day b4 Peterson announced he was going to Washington. Dissly played at Bozeman High School and was the Montana’s Gatorade poy.
Dissly recorded 64 tackles, 12 for a loss, with 9.5 sacks and 32 quarterback hurries. He also caught 54 passes for 917 yards and 12 touchdowns. A First Team All-State selection on both offense and defense, Dissly was the Class AA co-Defensive MVP as a junior.
I don’t know if the beavs ever considered him.
— what a nice idea — wbb tonight –although I wonder if the weather will screw it up.
PORTLAND PRE-GAME: As part of the atmosphere surrounding the game, the OSU Alumni Association, OSU Athletics and Our Beaver Nation have scheduled a pre-game event and transportation to make attendance easier and the night more enjoyable for fans. There will be a pre-game meet-up at Leisure Public House (8002 N Lombard Street) beginning at 4 p.m. featuring an appearance from head coach Scott Rueck and round trip bus transportation is also available to and from Portland, picking up and dropping off at Gill Coliseum. Registration information for both and additional details can be found at this link.
So a new coach is going to cost at least 1 million more, based on recent coaching hires. Also assistant coaches salaries would likely increase as well.
Where does OSU get this money to pay? The budget for the Ath dept is already in the red and borrows from the university general fund.
Thanks to Bob-it’s not my job to manage assistants- DeCareless OSU has shortcoming seasons rather than money making successes. Coulda shoulda woulda and not a dime to show for it. The economics and opportunity cost of a stagnant program vs a winner
The AD does not borrow from the general fund. Unlike Nikegon’s accounting which allows for the general operating fund to subsidize the AD to the tune of $5m annually (if they did their accounting the same way OSU does), the OSU AD is a budgeted operation. If they’re long, they carry a balance. If they’re short they need to borrow (not be granted) money from an independent fund which acts as an endowment.
We have bigger fish to fry than talking about some other team’s new coach. The suspense is killing me. Only two more days until we learn whether or not we get selected (err…pay our way into) the highly coveted ADVOCare 100 Bowl!!!! I can already see the championship trophy being presented in front of a sold-out crazed Gill Coliseum basketball crowd! Any else stoked?? JB
PS: Will’s dad of well…… Will’s dad fame is hoping for the ADVOCare 100 Bowl. He will be making the short drive from Texas with a huge contingent of fans, almost ten.
look on the bright side, Angry Beaver Nation, at least Peterson won’t be on the sideline when Boise state returns to Corvallis in a couple of years. Seeing and talking to Husky fans today reminds me of what it was like in January 1999 when I was driving home from the airport and heard on the sports news channel that Dennis Erickson had been hired by Oregon State. Those were the days. sigh. Every team in the conference, with the exception of Oregon, has upgraded at coach with their last hire at head coach. Riley’s tenure is likely to get extended, to an extent, due to the zero sum dynamic; all these new coaches can’t bring in 6-9 conference wins a year. Some of these hires will prove a bust; my bets: Helfrich, Dykes, Sarkisian, Rodriguez.
Boy, did BDC ever screw up the original Reser expansion plans. Whole stadium including west side was supposed to be done for the 2007 or 2008 season by the very latest. Now all of a sudden it won’t even start in this decade. Pretty pathetic leadership.
http://www.gazettetimes.com/reser-stadium-project-gets-under-way/article_33c5e464-41c6-5597-9fbc-32ec05cde979.html
“If all goes according to plan, by 2007 or 2008 the Beavers will have a stadium to rival any other facility in the Pacific-10 Conference.
“We want to make the stadium look like it’s supposed to look,” De Carolis said. “You only do a stadium once every 50 or 75 years so you want to do it right. Our goal is to finish the whole thing.
“Ideally it could be a four-year project if the funding is all there. It would be more than four years if you did the other aspects of it, like finishing off the expanded Valley Football Center. But a four-year project could get you a whole new stadium.”
Construction will be completed in segments so the Beavers can continue to play at Reser, which has undergone numerous piecemeal expansions and renovations since it opened in 1953 with 28,000 seats. Work on the first phase – a new 21,000-seat east grandstand with a club level and 20 luxury suites, costing about $80 million – will start immediately after the Nov. 20, 2004, Civil War game against Oregon.
The $30 million second phase will renovate the end zones and Valley Football Center for the 2006 season. The $80 million third phase will completely overhaul and expand the existing west grandstand for the 2007 or 2008 season.”
The economy tanked and steel prices skyrocketed.
False!!! He was taking about a completion date which was ahead of the tank
Coach Peterson is scheduled to make 3.6 million a year.
That is more than the entire football staff combined.
And I will be shocked if UW isn’t in a BCS bowl during this contract.
My thoughts on Petersen:
The Pac-12 isn’t the Mountain West or the WAC. Dirk Koetter went 20-5 his last two seasons, before going 40-34 for ASU. Dan Hawkins took over and went 53-11 for BSU…19-39 for Colorado.
You can’t just get up for the 1-2 big games you play every year, you’ve got to be ready for a brawl nearly every week in the Pac-12. I don’t get inking him in for 10+ wins like some people seem to be doing.
I see him getting 9-3 many years and 8-4 once in awhile. Don’t think he ever goes below 7-5. After a couple years he could see 10 wins. Certainly before OSU does again. Unlike Riley who can go as low as 3-9, I think it is safe to say Petersen never does worse than 7-5. They will be knocking on the door and he can definitely knock off Helfrich if Oregon doesn’t bring very close to their A game. Riley on the other hand is likely to be facing 7 straight Civil War defeats by this time next year. We will be below both programs now until BDC is gone.
I don’t even care.
Washington could hire Bozo the Clown. We’re still stuck with Langsbankeriley until the sun burns out with no real hope of having more than 1 good year for every 3 bad or mediocre.
Roses? Lol
Not to put it all on Lankeriley. The bigger problem is that we have AD Woe Are We Bobby D.
I think Riley is ill.
Several other people I know have pointed out how bad he’s looked this season. I thought he looked a little rough last year.
He has no fire. He seems like a man out of answers.
I mean the man no ill will. I truly hope he is not sick or going through something horrible in his personal life.
We’ve seen Riley distracted and lacking focus before, when his Dad was dying and his daughter became a Mom. After that he went through a phase where he seemed more involved….hired Brennan, Brasfield, Perry, and Bray; reduced the press availability of players, took over play calling, and added music for practices. I think most of those moves came after the personal distractions.
I agree that he hasn’t looked energetic (even for him) and may possibly be facing some personal issues of which we aren’t aware. But, something happened between the UW fiasco and the CW. When he made the statement that “we’re not going to play like that again” it may have been a true sign of a spark.
For me, a few questions remain: 1) can he keep that spark with any consistency? 2) will that spark cause him to make changes to his staff? 3) even with the spark, does he have the ABILITY to manage the clock and adjust (in real time) to game situations. Based on past observations I’ll be pleasantly surprised if clearly positive answers come to even one of those questions.
AND: After the one decent article, Lindsay fades back to her old ways. Says, “If you asked Riley, he would tell you offensive coordinator Danny Langsdorf is one of those bright, young minds.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/12/live_chat_talk_oregon_state_fo_8.html
Wow. Chris Peterson vs our stagnation. Well at this point I’m looking to be feeling lucky if our staff of slobs are able to maintain this stagnation. I’m going to be surprised with anything more than mediocrity for as long as this staff hangs around. This might be the straw that broke my back. I grew up in 28 years of losing, attending so many empty games. But we never quit like we do now. We had a cool classic pair of mascots. At this point I feel like rooting for the huskies. I forget how bad they can be, but Peterson I like, and besides, the ducks were always the most classless I’ve ever known. So huskies hate the ducks too, that’s neat. Maybe I’m a husky fan now, good luck beavs
Here’s one for Beavergopher: Currently CBS has OSU playing Minnesota in the Texas Bowl on Dec. 27th in Houston.
If that happens are you going to be rooting for both teams or…….
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions
Shake it til you make it Bowl?
Apparently it’s due to the NIU loss…
“Oregon State -> RT @jppalmCBS: Among fallout from NIU loss is that all major conf bowl eligible teams should now find spot to play”
https://twitter.com/ESPN_Pac12blog/status/409332777679454209
What a nightmare if it plays out!
http://helenair.com/sports/college/montana/football/coastal-carolina-s-coach-isn-t-your-ordinary-joe/article_b48b71b3-9b69-5778-a94f-cc59666a74b9.html
somewhat interesting – about coastal carolina fb team playing the grizzlies in missoula today – if you read it, puhleeze refrain from commenting on the double entendre re: cold, It’s too obvious.
I hope they can get up for the game.
You mean like that?
no
Seems kind of cocky.
Solid coaching move from coach Joe: ” We’re going to practice this week playing with cold balls. ”
I wonder if he’s factoring in shrinkage?
in case you missed it, Sark was on Gameday this morning and said SC is going to the up tempo pistol style of play next year. So, that makes Stanford and Riley the last hold outs for the old pro style. Curiously, Sarkisian added a caveat, that “so long as the rules now in place dictate” this style of play that’s what he’s going with.
I’m not sure I’d want to see Mannion running the pistol offense…
Maybe once this guy gets on campus they will work in some plays that take advantage of a QB that isn’t a statue.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Marcus-McMaryion-142240
Reading between the lines. Recruited by Rod Perry. When he gets to Corvallis he’ll realize that there’s no room in Riley’s complicated playbook for a dual threat QB and will be converted to CB where Perry turn him into a 1st team PAC12 CB.
Doubt it. His highlights are all him throwing.
He only had 238 rushing yards with 3 TDs compared to 3477 yards passing and 43 TD 3 INTs. Completed 60.8% of his passes.
Just because he is mobile doesn’t mean he can’t throw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5w5ckSC-m8
A assistant hire that OSU could do is to pick up the senior back up OL guy at Stanford. The one with the whiteboard and off the chart football iq. He would be an awesome pickup, bring some quick thinking brains to the staff, and watch some serious in game adjustments happen. That guy is sharp.
I’ll repost this idea later so as not to get buried by today’s basketball game. HA! Another thought I had, maybe Riley needs to look into some PEDs for coaches. You know, something that’s banned for Olympic athletes because it really increases focus. Then maybe he won’t be laughing with a shit grin while we keep getting our asses handed to us via the same repetitive schemes,
Rodent Bowl?
Lindsay Schnell (@LindsayRae19) tweeted at 0:53 PM on Sat, Dec 07, 2013:
Has Oregon St vs Minnesota in Texas Bowl Dec. 27 RT @jppalmCBS: New bowl projections http://t.co/fHemDmXDq6
(https://twitter.com/LindsayRae19/status/409425494661025792)
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Beware of this dude!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Goldy_the_Gopher.jpg
That’s a good lookin mascot. We need our Benny back.
That big snowball fight at UO yesterday was not at all what people thought. The media portrayed these people as just having fun. The truth of the ordeal is in this video, that is soon to be viral. Truly sickening indeed. Many UO players were involved.
http://youtu.be/azUbx8XwOlU
They should add this to their promotion video with the skateboarding and rock climbing.
Classy!
Promotional
Sparty taking it to tOSU, 17-0 in the 2nd Q. Largest deficit of the season for tOSU.
Miller with a 48 yard run gets the buckeye offense going and they tie it up in the 3rd Q at 17. Tree all over ASU, 38-14 in the 4th.
And who called sparty beating tOSU? I’m calling you out beavergopher lol. Too many napkins huh?
Genius.
whats that saying? Even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days
I bow down to your napkin-ness. Happy for Sparty as they got screwed out of the Rose Bowl a couple years ago. What sucks is now the F’ing SEC can win it all again.
I called it weeks ago when Ducky tried to troll after SU’s loss to SCum. It wasn’t hard to see at that point.
message to Lindsay Schnell (since we know you monitor this site): so if Wyoming can attract the top coach in IAA football from North Dakota State, do you think a place like Oregon State would be attractive? In the Pac 12? (I’ve tried to find the dollar value and couldn’t but my guess is that it’s less than a mission/yr.) Heck, I’m wondering if the coach at Eastern Washington would be a candidate? At least his team was ready to play in late August. The Schnell/Feldman argument that Riley is the one and only coach appropriate for Corvallis is so fraudulent as a logic model that I’m stunned legitimate journalists would propagate it. I’ve concluded this is the biggest problem for those of us who take a “critical view of Oregon State athletics” face. Not only are the mainstreamers NOT doing their job, they take issue with those who do this as an avocation.
message to Ken Goe: in answer to your question, what good was gained by expanding the Pac from 10 to 12? — Utah and Colorado provided half of Oregon State’s conference win total. That’s a start.
Someone ask Terron Ward why he feels like such an entitled little prick that he can continuously harass his neighbors with music and loud out of control parties. Second special response notice given last night, and I’m sure no fucks given by him either.
Man come on you didn’t have parties in college? Lighten up let the kids have fun