Schedule for the weekend is as follows. UCLA says TV can be found here. We’ll see.
Apr 30 (Fri) 7:00 PM Away UCLA Los Angeles, CA
May 1 (Sat) 6:00 PM Away UCLA Los Angeles, CA
May 2 (Sun) 12:00 PM Away UCLA Los Angeles, CA
So Mitch came back from a disastrous loss and beat up on a far inferior opponent. That’s what is expected of OSU baseball, so a bit of a nothing burger, but it’s better than the alternative.
UCLA looks to be on par with us, so this is going to give a gauge where we actually are two-thirds through the season. I’m willing to change on Mitch as he changes. If he can learn the basics of managing in-game and players (instead of being their psychologist, be their leader), then I will change.
And by the way, I didn’t want to discuss this in the main post, but we had someone cancel their donation last night – $5 per month recurring. Can someone step up and replace that?
What is strange is it happened immediately after I criticized the 49ers pick. Cancel culture!
Very odd. So this person apparently wants to hold my words hostage to their donation? It can’t work like that. Swammi did that, too. If I say something they don’t like, they cancel. We don’t need donors like that who put the site on eggshells. This site gets edgy, chippy, and pushes the PC stuff. It’s part of what makes it great, and it’s always going to be the case. We need true fans of the site to step up and be reliable so we don’t have to keep having posts like this.
If you are the Beaver that steps up, please do the “recurring monthly” option because this makes it much easier on my end. Donations are currently $75 per month. If we can get to $100 I’d like to kickback the difference to NB for his efforts, and I’ve done this in the past whenever I can.
Thanks!
AB
I’ll put in $5/mo this afternoon when I get a chance. Thanks for the ignore button.
Yeah I’m back in for $5 per, too. Honestly, and I’m sure this sounds like a dick move, I had to stop when the Swammi v anti-swamm shit show was going on and Angry said the ignore button was too much trouble to deal with. I had to stop reading completely, and if I ain’t reading, I ain’t paying.
So speaking of shit shows, and while baseball probably qualifies, completely OT, anyone had experience with replacing 130′ of broken cement sewer line that runs under a neighbors house to get to the city line?
Ive dealt with this a few times. You can get my email from angry and I can take a look.
Thanks, I may do that, we’ll see what the seller comes up with.
OJ that sounds like a nightmare.
Not my nightmare, yet.
Have an offer on a house, 1948 build, and I’ve seen enough of the old homes in this town with unknown til it’s too late issues. So we had this house scoped, and BINGO! Want the house but we’re not paying for it and I can’t get a sense of what a solution costs, in time or actual $$. I think the sellers are f’ed, which is unfortunate but when you have to pay 50 over to even be considered as a bonafide offer, I don’t feel all that bad either.
Avoid!
Sorry. The developer said the ignore button issue is complex (I looked and couldn’t figure it out) and wants ~$250 to fix it entirely, and that was just his estimate. This is because I use a custom theme that would require custom code. I figured out a work around. But these are the types of things that make the site run at a loss. WordPress used to be simpler. If you remember, I had to redo the entire site a year or two ago. This is because everything began to break, and this is when I really had to step up donation requests. To have the look and feel how I want and how it presents a pretty, minimal experience to users requires $. I took the loss for a decade, and basically just kind of refuse to do it anymore, if that makes sense.
I hope we can get monthly to over $100 recurring so I can kickback some to NB. I feel guilty at this point since he does such solid work. At $75 I put $50 per month in my maintenance pool for the issues above going on behind the scenes, with with the remainder “pay myself” $25 and buy a lunch. Pretty pathetic model! Especially given the demands on my time right now.
By the way, that Swammi vs Swammi (sequel to Kramer vs Kramer?) situation was tough on me, too, because I don’t want to ban/censor, and yet I can’t deal with insane people. Created a big problem.
At this point if he shows up, just use the ignore, and I’ll delete all his posts in real time if I’m around at my PC. That guy actually used to donate $15 a month, and I feel it was to gain favor. I can’t have that. So it sucked to see a larger donation go, but it had to happen. He cancelled his donation the moment I criticized him, claimed he did so for the good of the site because he’d be leaving, and then showed up two weeks later with more multiple personalities that respond to one another in the comments. Most bizarre situation in the 12 years of AB.
angry said, “Most bizarre situation in the 12 years of AB.” Except for Jack!
If there is decent fall then realignment is probably the best option. Though maybe pipe bursting would be an option, I am not too up to speed on that stuff. Cost is going to depend on where the line is public and private… my guess is anywhere from 10-30k (real rough guess, depth is a big factor too). Of course contractors are gamesters and if they are real busy they might throw out a crazy high number instead of telling you they are too busy.
Yeah, good fall, a few bellies and a break where the flow exits and then re-enters at another break 10′ down line. It’s a mess. Pipe bursting seems like it would be ideal but the likely clean up of current contaminants and probable voids along the existing line seem like an issue.
Angry’s advice to avoid is probably most sensible, but the house is solid otherwise, the sellers will have to make repairs no matter who they sell to, and we’re on the clock with a 1031 exchange.
They’ll have to pay for it to no matter who they sell to like you said. I had to do something similar when I sold my house. They were able to bore a hole without disrupting much. Amazing the technology they have. Hope it works out for you guys.
If possible I recommend homes built after 1978. That can be difficult as you go east though
First…..Angry doesn’t count.
Angry – I’ve asked a million times so why not again.. you criticize everything but almost never say what you’d do differently. It’s most likely cuz you don’t know…
If you were Shanahan with the 3rd pick, who do you pick?
As for donations, it’s not realistic to think you can say things that seem unintelligent and not have cancellations.
Lol. Yeah, that’s a good reason to cancel a donation.
To answer your question: I’d have taken Mac Jones if a QB was needed. The guy put up elite numbers in an elite conference and did so for years. The guy they selected basically played 1 year of football in a joke of a conference, and he was a 2-star recruit. They fell in love with an idea and want to look like geniuses. Every year a team does this.
There are other players I like more than Jones or the NDSU guy who I’d have selected, too. Patriots once again school the league by taking Jones 15th. Amazing value pick.
Shit, nothing compares to my Raiders drafts, year after year, top of the pile. Yeah, that pile.
That Jamarcus Russell pick always stands out to me. At the time I was wondering what the hell they were thinking. It’s almost like teams get forced into a (bad) pick because fans, media, Mel Kiper all tell them this is the guy who should be #1. I feel that happened with Russell. He was clearly lazy all along and getting by on having great athletes around him and having a big arm that could in itself out-athlete opponents, but it was equally clear that wouldn’t play in the NFL.
I’m not defending the reason to cancel, I’m just saying you’d have to expect it to some degree.
It may be years before we have an answer but I think you’re in the large minority for thinking Jones is better than Lance. Jones also had the best line, the best RB, and the best WR’s every weekend so of course he produced. You keep saying 2-star as if that means anything today. Wilson was a 3-star and was the #2 pick.
When you watch the NDSU guy’s film, do you love it? He is being compared to Mahomes, but he doesn’t run nearly as fluid or have the arm. I see him running away from bad competition. I also don’t see Mahomes confidence or intensity when he talks. I guess we’ll see. I’m not saying he can’t be good. What I’m saying is it seems they fell in love with a guy because they think he’s another guy (Mahomes), and the odds are he’s not that guy once he hits the NFL.
There is so much $ and years repercussions of getting a high draft pick wrong, that I don’t think you can make that pick. The 49ers liked Jones more until draft day, so something got in their head. And it’s the idea he could be Mahomes, I think.
The repercussions aren’t what they use to be like when Sam Bradford or Russell were drafted. The guaranteed money isn’t as outrageous. Jets easily moved on as did the Rams. Cardinals got away from Rosen easily. As a Niners fan, I don’t know why they traded up. They could have had Fields or Jones at 12 with maybe a little move instead of trading so many picks. I was told the Niners made that move to trade the 3rd pick to the Packers but that obviously didn’t work out. I don’t think Jimmy G is terrible but he can’t stay healthy.
Any Jet fans thinking Wilson is a bad pick or a reach? I agree Angry that teams fell in love with Lance because of Mahomes. Same thing after Wilson started having success in Seattle.
I like the Zach Wilson pick. He reminds me more of Mahomes than the NDSU guy. He also has an intensity I like to see. Not in love with the pick but I like it, and think the risk/reward makes sense there. BYU doesn’t play any good teams, though, and if you watch his film he had all day to throw. Hard to say how that translates.
I think the Jets did well with that USC guard, too.
Agree and they lost to Coastal Carolina in a batter of the ranked teams. I think it was said well on DP show this morning. It’s not always so much about the player but where the player is picked. Example used was Etienne for the Jaguars. Good player but would he have been there later.
I don’t know how soon Lance will be ready to play. Big different with Wilson playing 3 years.
That’s exactly it. The NDSU guy would be a very intriguing pick in Round 3 or so. It’s all about where they are picked. I think two things are at play:
1. GMs get FOMO – fear of missing out on the guy they’re enthralled with. So they convince themselves to trade up or do whatever it takes to get “their guy”…
2. This happens in all “assets”, and players are assets. We see in the stock market someone will pay $700 for Tesla, which as of today is about a $125 stock on all valuation metrics, but they just want to get in and get their cut of this idea they’re enthralled with.
It’s human nature. It leads to GMs really messing up. The Patriots made a great pick at #15 with Jones. Whether he’s boring or whatnot he’s a really great pick there. The NDSU guy at #3 is a “reach” and not a good risk/reward, but he would be later in the draft. A GM fell in love with him. A GM got fomo. The same GM who liked Jones a few days prior, too…clearly some convincing of self that this was more exciting, etc. Just like Tesla or Bitcoin lose all excitement when they drop 50% in a few days, so too will this…very likely at least.
It could be argued that NDSU is more prolific as a team at the FCS level than Alabama is in D1.
They won five-consecutive NCAA Division I FCS National Championships between 2011 and 2015 as well as three more consecutively between 2017 and 2019. And they could win it again this year, although they wont have Lance available on May 2nd since he was drafted.
He put up great stats, but for a team that always performs at the best at their level, similar to Alabama.
Mac Jones is like Alex Smith, no upside at all IMO
Alex Smith is a very boring QB, but he’s not a bad QB. I think he has some pro bowls, etc.
I think you go for “upside” later in the draft when there’s nothing on the line. That would be more asymmetrical risk.
I’m not even a 49 fan, so I don’t care too much. I just thought it was a high risk, low reward pick where they fell in love with a guy who sort of looks like Mahomes and convinced themselves he is Mahomes.
Yeah, I dunno what the 49ers are thinking anyway. Lance is probably not a week 1 starter and their roster is built for win now… they need a QB bad. But I disagree on Smith, I mean he was a great QB but to take a guy number 3 I think they have to have more potential than that.
Wasn’t Smith taken #1 overall?
Jones at #3 would be a deal compared to that. Haha.
The 49ers have Garrapollo, don’t they? I’m not sure why they need a QB unless I’m missing something. Is he hurt again or something?
Garoppolo has battled injuries almost constantly as a full-time starter, but even when healthy he’s been underwhelming. Not terrible but definitely below average NFL QB. He’s not going to win them a SB.
So they needed a QB. I think Mac Jones is a reasonably safe pick- high floor/low ceiling. I heard someone say that his ceiling is Kirk Cousins, and that sounds about right. Likely an average or below average NFL QB, which is fine but not likely to win a championship.
Trey Lance is really a wild card imo. Massive upside, massive downside. Basically he played perfect football through his national champ season + the one game, but he wasn’t asked to do a whole ton. Small sample size and a ton of help, but basically no mistakes. 0 career interceptions! I don’t care what level he plays at, that’s pretty wild. Apparently his intelligence & football IQ in interviews and testing was off the charts (far above the other QBs in the draft), which was supposedly what sold the 49ers in the end.
I think you could have made a good case for Justin Fields at 3, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Fields turns out the better QB. Big win for the Bears to nab him at 11. However I’d take Lance over Jones in the 3 spot and think that was a good call.
FWIW though – I also like the Pats getting Jones at 15 and without having to trade up. That’s a good value.
Why is everyone so down on Garoppolo? I understand he gets injured, but his stats are incredible.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GaroJi00.htm
To think you can’t win a Super Bowl with that production is just wrong. He’s well above average. He had a better QBR than Tom Brady last time he played a full season. So that’s just not accurate talk.
The reason you can’t win with him is when the playoffs happen teams know how to force you to throw the ball. He can’t do it. When you need a big play like a third and 8 to keep a drive going, he can’t make the throw. They can’t/haven’t asked him to make plays because he isn’t showing he is capable. That’s my quick explanation. I wish it were different because they have had a great defense and run game. The weakness: passing game.
How do you wind up with a 98+ rating and 61QBR and an incredible td/int ratio if you can’t throw?
Stats lying again?
Jimmy G is like the team with the great running game that cant’t pick up a third and 3’s late in the game when you really need them.
That we agree on. If I had a top 10 pick and needed a QB I’d have taken him if available.
I was annoyed that the Broncos passed on Devonta Smith with the 9th pick to take a CB from ‘Bama instead. That dude was a beast and carved it up in the national championship game until he got hurt.
Saw that we offered another under the radar 2022 recruit at TE.
https://247sports.com/player/jack-velling-46103846/
I really like how tenacious blocks and hands. Very athletic and knows how leverage works (also played DE). Route running is pretty basic, needs work. This guy would be a real steal if we could land him.
Anyone know what is up with Isaiah Hodgins? I’m hoping the Bills release him and the Jets grab him while he’s still young. I could see him and Zach Wilson being something.
He was hurt all of last year. Assuming he’s healthy this year, he’ll get his shot to be the 3rd or 4th WR.
For the Bills he is a low cost, high reward guy. They won’t let him go anytime soon.
What was in the injury? I saw shoulder, but then another one…?
Regarding the donations to AB, a portion of those donations get used to help cover running the Beavrecruiting leg of the site too. Helps to offset some of the photoshop tool expenses from back when I used to mess around with graphics for players. I may dip into that again if I can find some free time this year to sit in front of my computer.
Thanks ABers
Has it been mentioned the Beavs are in the mix for Sahvir Wheeler? I doubt they actually are, but the carrot is being dangled.
There were a few tweets about it last week. But essentially they dont have much of a shot. They’re among a pretty good group of 10 teams and lets face it, those decisions never come down to OSU. We’re pretty consistently being considered by quite a few transfers at least, so eventually we’ll land one. Just not the higher profile ones.
Throckmorton commits
Of course he did. Didn’t have to beat anyone out for him.
Relax Bill he’s a HS JR who barely had a jr season. Chances are (and as reported) we aren’t the only school after him.
Oregon Live actually said “on the rise 3 star” in their headline. I wonder if someone hijacked the headlines.
If Nemec is involved, there’s bound to be some jacking going on behind the scenes
Will his name fit on the back of a jersey?
With Nemec it’s more likely to be jacking off…
It’s tough to find someone who wants to sit behind Ben and Sam the next 4 years. But I’ll be damned if we didnt find someone for the job.
Someone convince me why I should be excited about this commit? Seems like low hanging fruit.
QB depth I’d say will be as good as it’s been in a long time. He seems like a late bloomer to some degree and he won’t be asked to contribute for another 4 years (RS JR). Watch his film his arm is really strong.
Bill I’d ask you what your issue is with this? If it’s that we’re his only PAC-12 offer, I’d say that may be the case but only for a little while. Smith and Lindgren have earned fan base trust with qb’s.
I cant confirm, but I guy i was chatting with about him said he was offered by both ASU and Utah after OSU offered him
Definitely going to have some great talent on the practice team the n xt couple years. I can’t imagine game prep won’t improve for the defense if Vidlak redshirts.
And on cue, Rivals rates him as a 5.5 3* recruit.
Man we went from no commits to a decent guy at all skill positions in a hurry
7th place in the Pac12 baby!
Suck it, bottom feeders
Throck’n’Roll! (Name for hurry-up offense when’s he’s playing).
“You smell what Th’Rock’s cooking?!?”
Top those bad puns…
according to 247Sports national recruiting analyst Greg Biggins.
FWIW:
247Sports national recruiting analyst Greg Biggins “He’s really a pure pocket guy,” he said. “Really developing, trending in the right direction. His body is definitely projectable. You watch his workout videos and he can spin the football. He’s got a live arm, accurate down the field, athletic enough. He’s got a lot of tools.”
Sporting News predicts Hamilcar to Broncos Rd 3, # 71 in today’s draft. I don’t expect him to go that high, but good luck!
Outside of the top rounds it seems like a total crapshoot on where guys might go. NFL.com really hated rasheds last year.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/hamilcar-rashed-jr/32005241-5325-4236-e29d-7b415d5dae84
“96. Patriots – DE Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma A productive, disruptive player, he stacked up 32 TFLs and 16½ sacks in three years for the Sooners. Looks like New England’s D-line is suddenly looking imposing after Barmore’s arrival earlier in the night.”
That’s not better than Hamilcar did in two years is it? Granted, the competition may have been better(?).
Awright…….lets get down to business:
Lineups posted, no Melton or Dukart. Justine Boyd at 1b? Gretler at third, Preston in cf, Casey batting 5th (one of only two lefties in the lineup vs the Bruin RHP).
Canham has realized (for now) that having Armstrong batting third makes sense.
OT: A name from the past and Angry’s darkhorse option football candidate just took the job at Kansas. Lance Leupold moves on from Buffalo after only a few years of winning to take over for the mad hatter at Lawrence. Kansas football may be on the rise in the next few years.
In other news, Preston Jones takes the first 2 pitches again and gets 0-2 count, leaves 2 on, top 2nd. Beavs lead 1-0 going into the bottom 2nd.
Nice. That’s going to be interesting to watch.
NFC Going Small for Big Plays:
49. Arizona Cardinals – WR Rondale Moore, Purdue – Moore blazed an unofficial 4.29 40 at his pro day while posting 42½-inch vertical jump. He posted 114 catches and 14 TDs as a freshman in 2018 … but injuries, including to his hamstring, have kept him off the field quite a bit since. Small (5-7, 181) but very strong, he could be a dangerous weapon – also able to produce on jet sweeps or pitches – between veteran WRs DeAndre Hopkins and A.J. Green.
56. Seattle Seahawks – WR D’Wayne Eskridge, Western Michigan – Eskridge brings more athleticism to the passing game with his blazing speed, averaging 23.4 yards per catch over the past two seasons. At 5-9, 190 pounds, he’s more Tyler Lockett than DK Metcalf.
57. Los Angeles Rams – WR Tutu Atwell, Louisville Atwell may only be 5-9 while hovering near 150 pounds, but his speed could bring another dimension to an offense that already added DeSean Jackson. An all-ACC selection in 2019 when he led the conference with 1,272 receiving yards, Atwell could demand every ounce of QB Matthew Stafford’s arm strength.
Champ Bailey, first rounder?!? : )
150 is scary light in the nfl.
Yeah, playing at that weight in the nfl, 100 lbs of it must be testicles…
Follow Rams; among talking circles this pick is odd, as general sentiment was they vastly needed help on both lines above all else.
Apart from that, WR corp needs a lasting deep threat, yet concerns with Atwell are questionable hands and less than precise route running due to avoiding contact… contact is exactly what a deep threat has to contend with?
Hopefully he proves everyone wrong.
Only able to watch the box score. Anyone watching or listening have a feel for how Abel is gonna pitch today? The K’s are looking good.
Abel looking filthy. Offspeed stuff fooling the hitters. The walk on the full count this inning was a really good pitch that I guess was just low. Batter was totally fooled. UCLA batter called out on 20 second rule of not being in the box with 2 strikes. Never seen that called. UCLA just got two free bases on a passed ball.
was piching good and then the dumbass throws a shit pickoff to first and lets the guy get to third and ends up scoring. He had to do something to screw it up for himself. SMH
Damn passed ball cost Beavs a run.
Jones should bunt almost everytime but especially in that situation. Missed opportunity.
Wright gets picked at 99, by Cowboys. First Beav off the board
Despite all the haters on here. Guy has a lot of potential and his brother is supposed to be better.
even the most delusional beavs fan didn’t see that coming.
His coach from Laney has been saying he thought he’ll go 3rd round
Nice!
He is 6’4”. That is all you need to know. Both Lenny Walls and Brandon Browner had good careers as the tallest CB’s in NFL history.
One spot ahead of Elijah Molden from UW. Looks like ESPN ranked Wright as the #34 CB and Molden as the #7.
By my rushed count, I think Wright was the 11th CB taken.
Can’t teach height.
Run on 5 CBs and 2 LBs at the end there, no Hamilcar yet though.
I’m guessing this will provide his bro extra motivation at OSU this season.
One pundit’s take:
“LOSERS
Dallas Cowboys: Jerry Jones and Co. made it their mission to load the defense with the kind of playmakers new coordinator Dan Quinn would relish. The returns from four Day 2 picks, however, were mostly uninspiring. Kentucky cornerback Kelvin Joseph could become the ballhawk this secondary has long lacked, but his inexperience and underdeveloped feel for the position make him a risky option for a substantial role early in his career. Neither UCLA’s Osa Odighizuwa nor Iowa’s Chauncey Golston do much to move the needle along the defensive line, and Oregon State cornerback Nahshon Wright is a massive project.”
Abel out after 4 1/3. Not very long outing for the ace. 2 on via walk, 1 out. 5 of the 6 walks in the last 1 1/3 inning. Really falls off.
His DC will be Dan Quinn, who was apparently at SEA and liked tall corners. Maybe he coached Brandon Browner at one time?
This is Beaver baseball, let’s go!!!
Forrester is not a fast guy, surprised he went to 3b, close, but he got the 2 RBI triple. He had the ball in front of him, looked like that was his own decision, not waved ahead by Canham. t8 4-1 Beavs
Now Casey can add a run with a Sac Fly
That was a great AB for Armstrong! Clutch hitting.
.354………happens every now and then
Now Forrester listens to Canham…..and creates a double play on a fly out to RF.
Not going for home looked like Canham’s decision, hung Casey out to dry leaving 2b with no place to go.
Or was Casey not watching and got caught? Would Forrester have made it?
Probably.
Would’ve been better to try than what ended up happening.
What a major f up!
Bases loaded, 0 outs, and we can’t score one. SMH.
Idk if it was terrible base running or bad coaching at 3rd but ends up costing them an extra out as Casey gets stranded and tagged out at 2nd.
That’s on the coach…
Looked to me like Canham called Forrester back, wasn’t Forrester looking at home and not the ball? Leads to the conclusion that Canham called him back.
IDK, but that’s how it seemed, need a replay.
Canham with a really bad call there to hold the runner. Pretty awful to not score another run with bases loaded and 0 outs. Better learn from it and better not bite us.
Salgado not looking too good in the 8th.
Hard to understand, Salgado has been pretty good, not tonight.
Dumbass pulls Will F and now Selgado can’t find the plate. Don’t pull a college pitcher until they give you a reason to do it!
“Don’t pull a college pitcher until they give you a reason to do it!”
Ok, not going to critique every coaching move but why did they take Frisch out? Now you bring in closer for 6 outs because the “reliever” puts two on.
I would say I’ve been more concerned with the pitching management than game. He’s made some really head scratching moves this season.
Mulholland looking good!
Good job by him to get out of the inning. Had to throw quite a few pitches to do it tho.
How does the Pac12 network make any money when every commercial is either for the Pac12, the Pac12 network, or the NCAA?
No one else wants to advertise on it because only 10 people watch it.
How does it making any money when I click the link on the baseball twitter account and watch the game without have a pac-12 subscription? Good broadcasters (knowledgeable).
They only have make 4 mill to pay Scott’s salary. Don’t sweat it!
Jones swings (finally) and good things happen……leadoff single t9, brought home by Ober two bagger.
5-1 and Savage brings in another arm…………see, dumb coaching decisions aren’t exclusive to Canham.
No because that pitcher was getting hit and could be saved for another game this weekend. The pitcher dormant took out was untouchable.
You are right, I was wrong.
Domino affect of taking out Frisch earlier than I think you should have.
Exactly
40 pitches from an ineffective Jake.
What a nightmare
What a bunch of fuckups!
We will see what kind of balls this team has. Same crap as last weekend.
two down t10 and up comes……………Jones.
Single in last AB, got one left?
Nice job UCLA. Feel good win
Dont think I’ve ever seen a balk off.
Happened in 2018. Dodgers/Mariners at Safeco. I was there.
August 18, 2018.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mariners-beat-dodgers-on-walk-off-balk-c290916038
My shitty memory…..
Rich Hill spotted the Mariners a 4-0 lead in the 1st. 4 solo shots by the Dodgers throughout the game tied it. Was 4-1 from the 2nd to 8th inning. Turner and Bellinger went yard in the 8th. Max Muncy tied it in the 9th off the Mariners closer. His name escapes me. Decent game. I’ve seen better.
And my bad. T-Mobile park. Not Safeco anymore.
That game might have ruined me the rest of the season. Seriously hard to watch.
5-1 lead. Needed 3 outs and fucking blow it.
I know Mitch isn’t out there making the mistakes but you gotta hold your guys accountable. The two dropped fly balls earlier in the week by McMahan. The baserunning mistake in the 8th that ran them out of the inning. 10 fucking walks tonight? Come on. Fucking ridiculous. Should not have lost this game.
That defeat could lead to a series sweep. They had the game and gave it away. This is on the COACHING STAFF. Canham f’d up at third. You have to send the runner and make UCLA make a perfect throw. Pulling Will F was the first domino leading to this crap. He was dominant and should have been left in until they started hitting him. Now they have used up Jake M for nothing. The pro approach to having a one guy pitch one inning does not work in college. Lots of times guys don’t have it and last night was a perfect case in point. PC must have punched a wall if he watched that shit show last night.
I’m disappointed. Coaching staff let the players down and robbed them of a W by overthinking it.
Pulling Frisch too early. Isn’t that the 2nd time that’s happened in the last two weekend series?
The baserunning coaching fuck up at 3rd. That could have and SHOULD have resulted in more than 3 runs that inning. If that happens? That game probably doesn’t even go to extra innings.
Besides those two points I am getting sick of all the fucking walks. Make the batter fucking earn it!
Someone needs to remind Dorman this is Oregon State. Not Grand fucking Canyon.
Mitch? Overthinking things? Hm…
And I had to watch that horror shitshow
Like I said I put a lot of this on Dorman. A balk to lose the game? Get the fuck out of here.
Who hired Dorman?
Well. There is that.
Jury is out on Mitch. I was on board with the hire initially but becoming less impressed.
Maybe it should have gone to Yeskie.
Talk about warts. This all started in the last UCI game Wednesday night when Canham panicked and brought Mulholland in to close out a game when the Beavs were still comfortably ahead. I remembered thinking at the time, I wonder if Mulholland should be saved for the more important game Friday night? Clearly, Mulholland didn’t have it last night.
Secondly, Canham can’t properly coach this team if he spends 1/2 of it standing by himself in the third base coaching box. He’s clearly overestimating his abilities in that single regard, and just as obviously doesn’t have any confidence in his assistant coaches, or at least one of them, the one who should be coaching at third. The thing that’s so frustrating with failing to score on that sac fly is that Forrester just legged out a triple!!!! No, he isn’t the fastest guy on the team, but among other things, Forrester’s slide into third was a thing a beauty. If it were a tie game, I could maybe see holding the guy, but you’re playing with a lead; put the pressure on UCLA to make a play for crying out loud.
As remarked above, Canham is tying to manage this bullpen like they do in the majors. Pulling Frisch made even less sense because even if you presume Will is out of gas, you have a several run lead to “play” with to discern if there’s more in the tank. At least one or two batters. Especially since, if Canham has been paying attention, all season the relievers are almost never sharp at first. Yeskie had his guys “pound the zone.” Dorman has these guys trying to hit the corners with curves and sliders which is why so many opposing batters (1) get a HBP, or (2) walk.
Private message to BeeG: there’s one good thing about last night’s game–we have something of greater immediacy to complain about than Rodgers’ prima donna act in Green Bay. The ironies in this case are really amazing because Favre pulled the same crap (I’m retiring, I’m not) when the Packers drafted Rodgers. Favre was dead to me after he left. You’d think Rodgers would have been smart enough to see the parallels, but apparently not.
It seems that the biggest problem with Canham is lack of time with his players and with college players in general. He hasn’t been around them long enough to learn their tendencies and capabilities in various situations. He’s making decisions based on what he THINKS rather than what he KNOWS.
Reading the board, sounds like the “Bad News Beavers” last night…
Maybe Canham needs a can of beer on a regular basis.
During the game? Might help
Couldn’t hurt; that’s for sure.
Saw that John Bates was drafted in the 4th round. It’s too bad that he flipped from us to BSU, especially when he greeted just down the road in Lebanon, OR. He seemed to be very projectable as a high upside when I saw him play in HS. Happy for him though even though he never played in the orange and black.
In the same spirit of the old time “CanRiley” movement, #CanhamCanHim should begin circulating…D1 College doesn’t equal Monir Leagues. Bad hire and bad logic. OSU should poach Andrew Checketts or someone with experience and success coaching at D1 level. UNless Casey is the legend no one wants to follow. THe program is flailing and the problems are accelerating with every game like last night, which is about the 10th of them this year. Once the aura is gone, the losses will begin to pile up. OSU baseball has lost the luster and shine, too bad.
Jermar will go in the 5th+ what a steal
Did this blog turn into first take and everyone is Stephen A Smith? You could read these comments about OSU baseball in his stupid voice and they fit perfectly. That’s what you guys sound like. Sensationalism at its finest and fake outrage at a finest. In reality this is Canhams first season and it isn’t even a normal one. Yet you expected him to just bounce back and be just like one of the most legendary coaches “ever”. The guy with all those warts and is a top 10 coach all time NCAA. I think it just shows how fragile folks are and should stick to sports they know about, football and basketball. The ups and downs of the sport of baseball are too much for you. Anyone who has ever played even rec league softball knows the ebb and flow. So when I see people complaining, it’s clear their knowledge level of the sport is lacking.
Wait, so you’re saying Beaver fans should not complain about Beaver Baseball on a blog sub-titled “A critical view of Oregon State athletics”?
Must be false advertising…
Haha.
He wants a Ralph Miller situation, 2.0. Some people aren’t competitive and don’t care.
Lol! Nah, complain about something real. This is why Stephen A is so popular, you can have faux outrage and be taken serious. I am all for criticism when it’s warranted but this Mickey Mouse micro outrage is killing me. I would hate to work around you micro managers. I bet you do everything perfect in life, especially when your at a new job. I bet the first day you are the most productive employee there. Give me a break.
He’s near the end of his 2nd year, and yet you think he’s a new hire on day 1. Okay, man.
Steven A is popular? Had no idea.
Seeing plenty of baseball negatives. Imo the biggest issue is pitcher management. It’s too cutesy and they don’t ride hot pitchers.
Is there some magic wand that makes pitchers throw strikes? Where do you draw the line between coaching and player performance. The ace who is not a freshman, walks 6 and has 85 pitches by inning 4, what are you to do? There’s no management that can overcome poor performances, it just doesn’t exist. If people can point me to the magic wand and start coaching this team themselves, I might start to believe, but right now you all are in fairy tale land.
The issue with pitching be anywhere but it does seem to be more on the coaches. Seem to be asking the pitcher to do things that they just don’t have the talent for.
Dorman is most likely calling the pitches and location. Don’t see college guys call their own games that much and I don’t see any guys on the roster who have shown the ability to call their own pitches. So if the pitching coach wants to pitch inside (which is clearly a focus), it’s up to the player to execute. But if they aren’t executing at a high level, the results can be bad. Even MLB pitchers have a tough time throwing inside consistently. 60 HBP this year.
Looking back,
2019 – 35 HBP.
2018 – 71 HBP
2017 – 30 HBP
2016 – 40 HBP
It’s also about having them ready to go and knowing what their strengths are and how much stamina they have. It’s like guys were saying why pull Frisch? They’ve pulled guys way too early way too often this year only to have disastrous results.
I agree somewhat with you that people are acting like they’ve fallen to the bottom half of the league which is clearly not the case. I think the frustration is more around losing games that they should’ve or were in position to win.
A balk to lose the game is just ridiculous. I would absolutely put that on the coach. Need to have the players prepared, calm, and ready and to be aware of the situation.
Yes, much of the frustration is around losing games that should have been W’s. The fact that the team is not in the bottom half of the conference is very little comfort given the schedule ahead.
I’d add to “…knowing what their strengths are and how much stamina they have” that a talented coach utilizes those strengths and avoids repeatedly trying to do otherwise. Bill’s second sentence above is spot on.
Well in this game pulling fisch early was dumb, he was on fire. Let him play out until he loses the edge.
And then they do it again, so they never learn. Mistakes are one thing. Not learning from them is another.
Tre Williams transfer from Minnesota to the Beavs.
Beavgopher, care to provide a hoops scouting report on him?
12 picks left. Ham and JJ going undrafted would be uhhh…suprising
Not a good look to guys we’re recruiting. NFL seems to pass on Beavs and/or drafts them too low constantly.
Speak of the devil. JJ just drafted by the Lions with the 3rd to last pick.
Bummer, he would have been better off undrafted
Not really surprising about Ham, he regressed significantly last year. That’s a red flag.
Ham was hurt all year long
Had a bad Hammy?
Ham not getting drafted isn’t surprising- I called that when he first declared. His 2020 was an unmitigated disaster.
JJ falling to the end of the 7th is – poor guy. He’s a good player and I think he’ll make an impact. I’ve listened to a few national podcasts with scouts who saw him as super underrated and the 4th or 5th best RB in his class.
Seems like there were lots of RBs in this class and as the narrative goes, they’re less valued than years past. I’m not surprised he didn’t go high, or even that he didn’t get drafted.
It’s true that RB value in general has dropped, but way too many RBs came off the board before him. Several non-local film watchers that I follow had him at the ~5th best RB in the class, and he was the 18th (and last) taken. I think he’ll prove them wrong, but now he’s on a rough team with an RB logjam.
A winning season and a nice bowl performance would have helped. I think an individual’s performance is held against them if not winning team. Or, conversly, over-rated sometimes if a winning team.
JJ has game speed. Watch all those highly rated Duck recruits futilely chasing him for example. He’ll need to get out of Detroit with that log jam. I actually thought SEA would have been a nice spot for him. They have a couple of good RBs that don’t seem to stay on the field consistently, and with Wilson’s dual threat, a guy like JJ can take off for some long gains.
After Detroit, he’ll catch on somewhere.
The Jets had a very good draft. I’m curious to see where people rank it.
It’s never really a talent issue with the jets. Coaching has really brought them down in the past 15 years. Developed good talent for other teams though…
Per the interwebs, the Jets is where Ham is signing as a UDFA.
That’s another very nice signing. He was bad last year, but he has upside.
New York Jets – Grade A
This draft will ultimately be defined by whatever success No. 2 pick Zach Wilson has compared to what Darnold, now a member of the Panthers, does with a bona fide supporting cast – which NYJ GM Joe Douglas could have built for his former QB by dealing the second pick for a king’s ransom, which was apparently on the table. Be that as it may, Darnold is hardly a proven NFL commodity – and by going the Wilson route, Douglas maintains far more financial flexibility than if he had to speculate on the inevitable mid-tier compensation (at minimum) Darnold has coming sooner than later.
And give Douglas credit – he may have hit a home run with Wilson, who has awe-inspiring arm talent that gives him the ability to make just about any throw from just about any area of the field, whether or not his feet are set. But he’ll have to prove he can do it against better competition than BYU played while using his athleticism to preserve his 6-2, 214-body from NFL poundings as much as possible. Oh, and there’s that Big Apple pressure cooker factor, too. However overcoming such obstacles should all be easier given Douglas has started doing for Wilson what he didn’t have time to do for Darnold – import supplementary talent, which will include first-round OL Alijah Vera-Tucker, second-round WR Elijah Moore and fourth-round RB Michael Carter. (And Douglas already has multiple first- and second-round selections in 2022.) Given the path the Jets have chosen, you have to like how they’re navigating it so far.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2021/05/01/nfl-draft-grades-teams-bears-giants-jets-cowboys-raiders/4904079001/
Nice. Agree with all that, and setup nicely for the draft next year is big, too.
Super Bowl within five years.
“This draft will be defined by whatever success no.2 Wilson has” so it sounds like a bust. Probably the worst QB talent to go in the top 5 in a long time.
Why would you say that? Wilson has wheels and a huge arm along with leadership. The competition he played was atrocious, and he had all day to throw…those are valid criticisms. But what you wrote is pure nonsense. Sounds like some weird “rage take” to feel better putting someone down.
Lol really dude Rage take, pure nonsense? What qb that was taken in the top 5 in the last decade does he have more talent than? No. 2 overall is a huge reach for his talent level I don’t see him as a starter. You get so defensive and then diminish my comment and me. Sorry I disagree you.
A bit off topic, but we seem to have a good number of quarterbacks present or coming. Now…we need one or two of them to really shine.
Agreed. Going to really help the practice squad too.
QB depth seems like a real strength. Of course its potential right now, but Gebbia/Nolan/Gulbranson/Vidlak looks like one of the more consistently strong Beaver QB lineups in years.
Yes, we’re set for a while.
Of those four, which one(s) is not there after depth chart is released for fall?
I think they all stay. Vidlak should red shirt. Gebbia’s return from injury is likely, but not certain. Nolan and Gulbranson have to figure they could see the field any time this coming season.
For JJ, something must have happened during the process to have him drop that far. Whether he interviewed badly, medical red flags, etc. But going to the Lions isn’t the worst. RB depth there isn’t great so he’ll get a lot of looks in preseason to prove himself.
About where I thought he would go. 6-7th round. RBs aren’t a high valued position and you can get good ones in late rounds so teams aren’t going to use higher draft picks in JJ. He’ll probably show flashes of potential but doubt his body will hold up and he’ll have to work in ball security. That said, every once in a while teams will surprise you like when the Seahawks draft rashad penny in 2nd round.
I was expecting higher. It wasn’t a strong RB class and yet tons of guys got drafted above him. Their loss. I agree that maybe something triggered a red flag in the draft process. I read that bc of Covid restrictions and more limited info, many teams tended to pull much more heavily from the big name schools this year, trusting them to vet the talent. Again, their loss. Jefferson is legit.
Also I disagree that the Lions are a good landing spot. Swift is the clear RB1, and Jamaal Williams will have a significant role (great pass protector, does everything pretty well. Last seen stealing roughly 45% of touches from Aaron Jones in the Packers backfield). And then there’s Kerryon Johnson, another pretty talented guy and a former high round pick.
I think Jefferson has NFL talent and will make the team, but without an injury or two I don’t think he can find his way to touches. It’s a jammed depth chart and IMO one of the worst spots he could have landed.
Yeah Lions are an awful landing spot. Swift looks legit, I think with a bit more commitment to the run Swift is easily a top 5 RB. Then they went and paid Jamal Williams what a lot of teams pay their starters. After those two guys there aren’t any RB touches, maybe room for a returner or gadget player which is definitely not JJ.
Questions for those paying closer attention to the game than I:
1) Did Parker just confirm that Canham did indeed call Forrester back to third?
2) Any word on Jacob Melton?……..think I saw “unspecified injury” somewhere
Hjerpe really having a great outing today. His play on first was beautiful recognition.
Follows up with a filthy strike out.
106 pitches.
Wonder if it would do any good to move Hjerpe to Friday and Abel to Sat/Sun?
Worth a try. He’s typically really good.
another wan performance by the Beavs. it’s so bad you don’t even see fans in here complaining.
wan performance?
Or a swan…
What are the 5-year trending directions for:
Football; “no change/+”
Men’s Basketball; “++”
Women’s Basketball;”no change/-”
Baseball. “-“
Looks like Dunn signed the biggest UDFA deal for a rookie CB in league history today. Not as big of a payday as you’d think, but at least he got a little chunk of guaranteed money.
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1388694042746179585?s=20
Pretty good for a guy who never recorded an interception in his career.
‘Dynasty in the Woods’
Here’s the story on Josh Worden’s Beaver Baseball podcast series which centers on the 2018 season but covers more. Maybe a careful listen will help spotlight the differences between that team and the current edition.
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/baseball/relive-the-2018-oregon-state-baseball-postseason-run-with-dynasty-in-the-woods-podcast/article_70d9598f-5d9d-539d-a4a7-e35bd25003c2.html
Jerrale Powers is the Texas WR who will be making an official visit June 4th.
From the same HS as Zeriah Beason. Duncanville is a D1 recruit factory.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/jerrale-powers-259463
One of his teammates who I could potentially see visiting is 2022 DT Quincy Wright.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2022/quincy-wright-258340
He should tag along with his teammate and commit together. Then graduate a year early.
Tre Williams transfer from Minnesota to the Beavs.
Beavgopher, care to provide a hoops scouting report on him
Your wish is my command…
This is a great get for Tinkle. He is 6’5” with a lean but muscular build. He looks the part of a basketball player.
Good quickness and has been productive when he played. The problem was he did not get enough court time. Pitino played favorites and kept playing a kid who was on a two year shooting slump! He has a decent stroke and should be very good player with proper coaching, which he did not get at Minnesota.
He has the physical tools to be an elite defender. He is Jalen Suggs cousin and ended up at the U of M thinking he might get to play with him if the coaches could convince him to stay home. Obviously that didn’t happen. Jury still out on his shooting as we only got a limited sample size.
Bottom line…..very good news. He should slide into Zach R’s spot.
He has big shoes to fill…
31% FT shooting last year. Ouch. Good to hear he can play defense.
I was bummed when he decided to transfer, but this turned out pretty well. Tinkle must have sold him on playing in a more modern arena LOL.
He has a lot of potential.
Very much appreciate the analysis. Looking at his numbers, not much PT until the end of the season, about 10 games or so but when he played, he produced. Found some highlights of him and he’s solid. Can shoot and take it to the basket which we’ll need with Ethan leaving. If he buys into what WT wants on D, he’s going to be very good. The FT % is a bit worrisome but that’s one thing WT teams have done well. They’ll straighten him out.
https://youtu.be/2mMFMHHRoE4
Pfennigs is pulled after 5 full, 76 pitches, no BB or HBP. 3 hits, but 2 HR’s. Not sure he couldn’t go another 15-25 pitches.
Verburg on, Beavs up 4-3, promptly gets behind in the count and gives up a double.
b9, Frisch BB’s the leadoff batter, on comes Mulholland.
Lots of energy and smiles in the Bruin dugout, not without good reason.
Time for Mulholland to do the job! Go Beavs!
DONE, finally a W
BTW, good hustle by McMahan handling that double in the b9. Encouraging.
I didn’t get to watch but at least they split the series. Could’ve won all of those games and should’ve won at least 1 more.
Positive note on recruiting. Smith is landing guys rated 83-80 on 247 as PWO. Riley and anderson both brought guys of that level on scholarship on a regular basis.
WBB
ICYMI: Kennedy Brown is back on the court, says, “It’s really good to get back on the court, especially with some of my teammates. I am excited to start working this spring and to get back to work this offseason.”
Also, the team has announced that Jovana Subasic will return.
Scott needs to replace two assistants, he’s done it before. Go Beavs gals!
EDIT/ADD:
Right on cue the GT up with a piece on Rueck and the current situation, good stuff!
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/basketball/osu-womens-basketball-plenty-of-changes-for-beavers/article_7a28c040-6b36-5351-a61b-b180b389d515.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
Beaver on Beaver crime.
Lydia Parker is taking shots at Tim Euhus, who is apparently running for office in Corvallis in the upcoming election.
So fiesty!
https://twitter.com/Parker123Lydia/status/1388949483254255620?s=20
Seems like she really ran with her perception of his comments more than what he actually said or meant.
Sounds like a Democrat!
Tim is running for a school board position, and, Lydia makes some good, valid points
I miss the days when it wasn’t glaringly obvious what political parties candidates for non partisan positions belong to.