02.Sep.2014 California “Yes Means Yes” Bill and NCAA Recruiting

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In California, we’re about to pass another draconian bill (this time pandering to feminist/liberals) stating that a college girl must say “yes” every step of the way, with regard to sex and the sexual process. This includes not just consenting to sex, but every step of the way. So you have to ask her if you can kiss her, get a “yes”, then ask her if you can French kiss her, get a “yes”, then ask if you can touch her breast, get a “yes”, etc etc. Click here to read about it.

This is actually good news for Oregon State athletic department. Why? Because as the number of rape accusations increase on CA college campuses, and they will due to what is defined as rape under this law, football and basketball stars will not even want to mess with California. It’s simply too risky to bang girls on California campuses. Instead, they’ll go to the Arizona, Oregon, and Nevada schools instead. It will take a few years to see the gains from this, but since athletes are the ones most often accused of rape on any given campus, this will be a windfall for every college not receiving California funding.

Chalk it up to the wonderful State of California and “progress”! /sarc. I don’t want to get too political here to lighten the fuck up. Big picture: Beavs might get a nice windfall here. Some guys on the cusp between a Cal and Oregon State might choose the latter due to the risk associated with CA campuses. What NFL team wants a rapist? What high profile athlete wants to take on that risk? Luck of the Beavs in reverse for once. Thanks, liberals.

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  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Phil Knight, Helfrich and Altman all doing the happy dance

    • angry angry says:
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      I think ASU, Arizona, and Oregon will be the biggest beneficiaries. But OSU should get a bump, too.
      Some CA schools don’t accept public funds, so they’ll get a bump, too. Stanford and USC are technically private, but I think they both receive a ton of funding for research. I’m not sure if the funding is only tuition or research…I think tuition, so it won’t affect them. Cal Berkley and UCLA are the big loser in that case, and OSU does recruit head to head with them a lot.

      • Numbers says:
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        Im sure OSU could well bennefit from a recruiting edge over Cal State and UC athletes. Fresno Stste, Cal State Fullerton, Irvine, Davis, Sac St, SDSU, Long Beach State, UC Santa Clara, UC San Diego, Santa Barbara, Riversided, etc… But is Mike Riley about to push “come to OSU and avoid rape charges!”?

        • angry angry says:
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          He won’t have to because athletes will talk to one another and know to avoid CA.

  • bone says:
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    Ot: but pretty good day for beaver basketball.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Way to go, coach Tinkle!!

      A new look, in coaching, and a very good, if not great, recruiting class!

      This should get butts in the seats at Gill, again. I am enthused!

    • helmsley says:
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      I’m pleased. However, also somewhat skeptical. I’ve seen partnerships like this – close friends, families ventures, fall apart – disagreements – jealousies. I’m curious to see how it will all work out.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    LOL at the new Calif law, but I bet it gets challenged in court.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    That was quite the reach to figure out how to get this story to be AB relevant. My hat is off to you!

    P.S. Awesome hoops news, but do we have 5 guys still around to play next season?

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    as already reported above, Tres Tinkle, Stephen Thompson Jr and Derrick Bruce all committed this afternoon. It helps that 2 of the 4’s (Drew Eubanks already committed) dad’s are on the coaching staff I’m sure. Hiring Wayne Tinkle already paying dividends without even playing a game.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/tres_tinkle_stephen_thompson_j.html#incart_river

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Not sure if posted or not but Cameron Oliver isn’t coming

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/mens_basketball_signee_cameron.html

    • ObjCritic says:
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      She said “No”? How frustrating….

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Rosy Palm never tells me no cause if she did I’d nail her sister

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Way to go Wayne! Will Corvallis become Wayne’s World? I can see the S-I story title already…

  • GOBeavs GOBeavs says:
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    Good thing there’s no big news today or anything.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    A top 10 recruiting class? But you can’t recruit to Corvallis

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/oregon_state_beavers_basketbal_123.html#incart_river

    • angry angry says:
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      Those poor Pollyannas.

      Yep, I said all 3 of these guys would likely commit this weekend and that’s what happened. Tinkle is the man. The great news is he can coach, too.

      • bone says:
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        Did a great job recruiting their own backyards. The timing is just great, recruits are going to want to play with these 4.

  • bone says:
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    Devils advocate. Do we get these quality of players if they weren’t the coach’s sons?

    • Mb says:
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      Does it matter how he got them? Yes it does. This shows that Tinkle is not one dimensional. When you have been off the grid for so long, you have to prime the pump. It is legal, it is ethical and it is creative. it will open and establish a credible pipeline. Way to go Wayne.

    • angry angry says:
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      Highly unlikely. But probably 3-stars who Tinkle could actually coach.

  • whatever says:
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    I’ll be the first to say it; Bob DeCarolis, congratulations on another amazing hire.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Fill me in on the other amazing hires….

    • Mb says:
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      You mean, congratulations on doing the job for which you were hired and for which you are highly compensated. How in the world can we live in a place where someone always wants to congratulate others for essentially crowing at the sunrise. Me thinks someone has their hand in a back pocket and lovith flattery to gain access to the royal court.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Let’s please stop giving BDC credit for Rueck. Rueck wanted the job, is an OSU grad, loves the school and has a national championship. There was no other choice.

    • locusimperium says:
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      Thats’s a good point actually, I didn’t think of it like that. Great hire, yes, but doesn’t tell us a thing about BDC’s hiring acumen because of what you mentioned.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        And of course the fact that he should have got on the womens BB situation way sooner, and pretty much created the bad situation Rueck inherited, by not firing until the team had mostly walked off to greener pastures. BDC is not doing any kind of great job, imo.

    • helmsley says:
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      And, as I recall, SR was willing to go to work for not a whole lot of money . . . then. BTW, is OSU done paying off LaVonda?

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    OSU and Hawaii agree to two more future games

    The Beavers will return to Aloha Stadium, where they will play this Saturday at 7:30 p.m. PDT on the CBS Sports Network, Sept. 7, 2019 while UH travels to Reser Stadium Sept. 11, 2021.

    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209631990

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Gotta give credit where its due. The Robinson firing and Tinkle hiring was well played by Bobby D

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Wait a sec…… as I recall, the CR firing was fairly well botched, and not done til it was obvious the next basketball season was going to be a disaster. No genius was required.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        …and he kept CR on, far longer than he should have….

        As to Wayne Tinkle, that’s the kind of hiring he SHOULD do, as a matter of course. Dithering over L Wagner and CR should have cost him his job, dont you think? Not really doing very well as an AD.

        • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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          I’m not saying his tenure has been successful. Just saying he made the right call to let CR go, even if it took him too long. He also made the right call with Tinkle. Do you think we’re celebrating a great recruiting class in the first year under any of the other coaching candidates that were thrown out there?

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            He didnt have any choice with CR, letting him go. Attendence in CR’s last season was already a disaster, ….even a blind AD could see he had to be fired. So he gets no props for doing that. If he had let him go a year before, showing he could actually put some thought into the job, yeah, give him a +.

            He made a right call hiring Tinkle, so it seems, but that’s all.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      you mean hiring committee? This wasn’t completely 100% BDC

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        I’ve read from a couple different sources that the committe wanted to go with another candidate, and Bobby D overruled their decision because he wanted Tinkle.

        • Jack says:
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          That had to do with finances. It was a choice between spending gobs of money on an assistant or being reasonable with a proven head man from a proven coaching tree. Remember Bobby D said from the outset he did not want to go down the “unproven assistant/newby head man” road this time around. He was respectful of the process by listening to those who first applauded that idea themselves then abandoned it when they thought we could get someone hot… but still unproven. But he stuck to the guidelines he set forth for himself and the committee in the beginning.

          I, for one, am happy we will see a mix of man and the amoeba. I don’t think I could stand another season of watching us play exclusively zone.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            then why was Damon Stoudamire even considered or granted an interview?

          • bone says:
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            I think the real question on everyone’s mind is if we will see wiskeynapkin at gill this season?

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            depends. I’ve seen enough losing at gill over the years. If they show improvement, a sense of direction and actually PLAY some defense, I just may attend a few games. The fact that Roberto “The Matador” Nelson has run out of eligibility and CR was rightfully shown the door SHOULD be reason enough.

          • whatever says:
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            Because at least one highly placed donor wanted him to be considered.

          • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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            Token minority interview

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    The real question is, if MR had a 4 star kid, could he have gotten him to play for the Beavs?
    Tinkle has hit a home run with this class, albeit it helped he was sleeping with mom of the prize recruit. Hopefully this is the jump start we need to get back to the Dance. There is hope!

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Wow! #great day to be a rodent.

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Wait, Wayne Tinkle was sleeping with his assistant’s wife to get her son to commit? Talk about controversy

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    from the no shit sherlock files. It’s hard to be good at running the ball when you aren’t committed to doing it. And/or your O-line sucks

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/mike_riley_says_oregon_state_b.html

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Anyone else remember the 1989? Blast from the past. Listened to it on the radio. And I remember the headline from the Gazette Times Monday morning. “Pictures don’t lie, Chaffey scored Beavers were robbed in Hawaii”

    http://articles.latimes.com/1989-11-27/sports/sp-37_1_goal-line

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Gina breaks down the Beaver’s red zone woes. Don’t care for the format too much, could be presented in a less tabular and more elegant format, but at least it’s empirical:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/film_study_breaking_down_orego.html

    When’s the best time to give Garret a shot at play calling? Sand Diego State? There would be a bye-week to prepare for the transition, and its a home, non-conference game, but no gimme.

    Maybe it’s time to put Riley in the booth? His approach to coaching seems to be a laissez faire as opposed to proactive and strategic anyway (“find your identity,” no clock management …”I was wondering why Sean wasn’t calling a timeout”..ad naseam) …some physical distance might be good for him too.

    • Jack says:
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      That’s one thing that bugs me about college stats. In reality, out of 26 plays only six were called run plays. The two sacks and the one broken pass play scramble for a TD count as runs. Technically, the latter should count that way. But when we’re “breaking down” film, we need to speak of the differences between the calls and the reality of the stats.

      Mannion not finding anyone with PSU running a handsy seven-deep coverage… and then HIM running clear for a TD… should have probably clued our coaches in to what was going on and how they should adjust.

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      It will be interesting to see if Gina follows through and does a film review every week and to see which phases of the game she picks. I believe she planned to cover clock management this week along with red zone; maybe next?
      I didn’t mind the format this time, could be a problem applying it to other topics; as said, at least it is empirical.

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      I think she misses the negative on the play calling. Instead if you reread her transcript you realize that most of possessions were ended due to poor OL play. You could argue play calling all you want but if they executed properly then it does not matter if it’s run or pass.

      Weinrich had the false start on 4-1 (probably be a run). Mannion missed the open Hamlett because he was being rushed and didn’t have enough time to make a better pass. Mannion’s fumble was due to the pressure from LT who gave up a strip fumble. The series that lead to the punt again it was a sack that ultimate killed the drive. Those four series had less to do about play calling as it did the OL plain old sucked!

      We better see major improvement from them or it will be a bad season.

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        When the opponent knows a pass play is coming and drops all the backers except one into coverage, then they have six covering a short zone and five rushing. And PSU did it with ease.

        And someone had the temerity to wonder aloud why the play action didn’t work? QB draws were wide open.

  • Mb says:
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    Congratulations were in order the day Tinkle was hired. Congratulations will be in order when the arena is filled to capacity and when they win twenty games. Today Tinkle earns congratulations. Today the AD has done nothing to warrant accolades and acclaim. That would be considered holding on to the coat tails and taking credit where no credit has been earned.

    • Jack says:
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      The measure of the AD and the job s/he does is the lesser programs rather than the high visibility programs where s/he gets a ton of input from all directions. The women’s golf coach was the only one replaced in the off-season. I don’t know of any rationale for keeping the women’s VB coach or the men’s soccer coach.

  • Jack says:
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    I disagree with your take on the California law. I don’t know if I disagree with your rationale because it’s a pretty twisted one, if rationale at all. It’s also odd that hard-line policy (which I disagree with for other reasons… redundancy and obscuring investigation and prosecution among them) regarding criminality is considered liberal.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Am I on crack to think that with solid coaching, game management, playing to strengths etc… We could actually have a solid starting lineup in:

    PG: Duvivier
    SG: LMW
    SF: Robbins
    F: Gomis
    C: N’daiye

    Depth will be a problem for sure. But with GPII, Reid and Shaf off the bench wouldn’t be bad 8 man rotation. If Chai Ends up being ok and is cleared, team actually might have some potential. I was expecting good thing from the starting 5 when they committed. Hopefully Tinkle and crew can help them better realize their potential.

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      Agree – and, in much of the news coverage, including coaches’ statements, it would seem as if the players in place don’t exist and nothing is expected. I think some of them are fairly good and might prove it when they aren’t being messed with by CR’s never-to-be-understood substitutions and schemes.

    • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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      I agree, they all seemed like pretty solid recruits.

      CR was always able to recruit, he just had issues coaching and developing the talent.

      I keep hearing that the cupboard is bear but it seems fairly well stocked compared to what CR inherited.

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      I like them as a group, but we’re missing a big who can play Tinkle’s system, someone who was like him in college… or the typical Cal 4 who Gottlieb always found there. Gomis can develop into that, but I wonder if he’s going to be around after next year. This will be his fourth year in school, and he was already 20 when he matriculated. He may want to get on with his life if he graduates.

      What’s nice is that there’s tape on all of them, which means they all have experience. N’diaye is probably the least of them where this is concerned, but he should come along nicely with more. And, aside from the bigs, all our other players fit well in the new system, assuming Robbins feels he wants to work. LMW has really stepped it up as a leader on this team as well. He has really worked hard to keep everyone focused and accepting of what’s to come. He and Malcolm know they have a lot of floor time coming next year, and they’ve been working on their games in order to prove themselves worthy.

      Once Eubanks sits down at a training table and works in the weight room, he will be a proto-Tinkle big… with more athleticism than Tinks could ever get at Montana. And now that we have four in the fold, we may be seeing more like him take a look at OSU. Looking at that style of big and who our coaches might be dialed into with AAU connections, I’d expect Jayce Johnson to be one of those kids. We may have four right now, but that doesn’t mean a fifth won’t occur. And if a fifth doesn’t occur, we still have six slots for 2016. There’s a lot of work to do over the next year.

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      Robbins has very questionable work ethic. Good, long wing defender, but awful shooter. Very careless with the basketball. Don’t like him starting. Schaf can really only do one thing, and that’s shoot, and he’s mediocre at that at best. GP2 is probably starting at the 1 over Duvivier, especially because I don’t think Duvivier is a very good ball handler at all. Reid? Ugh…I think I could take the ball from him. Not a strong shooter, but he is a pretty strong post defender with his size and strength and some athleticism.

      I was thinking a starting lineup of

      GPII
      Duvivier
      LMW
      Gomis
      N’Diaye

      thing is, these aren’t bad players, but a lot of their skill sets overlap or don’t really fit what needs to be done per se. I think Duvivier is very athletic and a pretty good shooter, everyone has their strengths, I just don’t enjoy watching them play.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Hawaii’s blitzing D looks to give OSU problems. If backs stay in to help pass protect, then the receivers are going to have to get separation this week and make catches. How about a quick slant to Villamin? Also, there’s going to have to be commitment to the run game…

    There offensive scheme and their RB could be a challenge for OSU. Would be beneficial if either Haskins or Nall have been emulating Iosefa in a practice-shortened week, and people are able to live tackle. Oh, and have I ever mentioned the Seahawk tackling video?….track the inside hip..eyes through the thighs…drive for five….

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/hawaii_beat_writer_calls_warri.html

    A short practice week, a problematic offensive scheme, bruising RB, a motivated Hawaii team…this game looks a lot tougher than it did during the off-season.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Been spending a little time in Cave Junction, OR and the Redwoods area in NoCal this week. Damn there are a lot of meth addicts around here. Times have changed since I was a kid

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      Josephine county is a steaming pile of sh*t these days, and the residents down there seem to love it even more.

    • Jack says:
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      Probably not. You’re probably just more aware and more judgmental… not that we all are not… who’s more trusting than a kid?

      It does suck though. That is one of the prettiest parts of the world.

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      Favorite swimming hole on the Illinois up about 15 miles from Cave Junction. Very sketchy now utterly no law enforcement. You need to be within view of your car at all times. We’ve never had anything happen but it is a little unsettling know that there would never be any help on the way. Welcome to Dodge City circa 1858. JB

      PS: Art Robinson certifiable right-wing wack job and state GOP chairman is a proud resident of Cave Junction. Coming soon…a libertarion paradise.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Taylor’s jerky. Best. Ever.

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        I heard that from the people we’re staying with in crescent city, but too late to go back and get any

        • Jack says:
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          Buy one grand entertainer for yourself and a couple more to split among friends for gifts.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Posted on Gopher site. Assumed the OSU was da Beavs , not tOSU. Guess the same crap happens everywhere.

    SB Nation
    Ohio State wants you to snitch on people standing during games
    Land-Grant Holy Land ?- 16 hours ago
    The university apparently wants fans to report one another via a text line. Making security aware of folks who are drunk and disorderly, I can see …

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Go Colt go! Talk Colt talk!

    http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/09/former_oregon_duck_colt_lyerla.html#incart_river

    Will anybody believe him? Is there proof?

    Nice pub before MSU….

    • ObjCritic says:
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      The SB story direct:

      http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/9/3/6096841/colt-lyerla-profile-oregon-football

    • ObjCritic says:
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      While I may sound like a conspiracy theorist, Colt is the perfect kind of individual to whom to make such promises. He’s incredibly athletic, has no decision making skills, no stable foundation, no strong character witnesses, and now no credibility (Sandy Hook Conspiracy statements, cocaine use). I also recognize correlation does not mean cause; because Colt has these characteristics does not mean a prominent UO booster promised him and his mother a home and more.

      But it smacks of classic, old school “big program behavior” from a “new school” program that was desperate to achieve and retain big time status. There’s also been other cases where recruits flipped at the last minute to UO.

      Likely nothing will come of it if Colt (and his mother?) is unwilling go record and identify the booster.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if its true. I wouldn’t be surprised if nothing meaningful comes from it.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        like DAT flipped from USC at the 11th hour? Honestly, I believe him. I also believe PK to be the said booster. UO is as dirty of a program as it gets.

        “Their enthusiasm dampened when an unofficial adviser weighed in. Lyerla declines publicly to identify the man, a powerful University of Oregon booster known to the family. The adviser made the benefits of that decision clear. If Lyerla went to Oregon, “I was promised a house, a car, all these things.”

        Lyerla knew the man had the means to deliver on his guarantees. Tammy knew that as well, too, and now she leaned on her son to sign with the Ducks, a change Lyerla believes was made with the best intentions, but inspired by her precarious living situation. “All of a sudden, it was ‘You need to go to Oregon. That’s the best place for you. They’re going to take care of you,’ he says. “My mom was really impressionable. When it was me and my mom in high school, it was $600 a month for the both of us. That’s how we lived … anything good financial-wise that would take care of me or take care of her, she was going to go for it.”

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          Watch the Duck fans hang him out to dry and call out his behaviors; name calling to ensue.

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          I think there was rumor of this exact issue four years ago, at the same time of Lamichael James car thing. It is obviously true, and Lylera could be the same type of guy that brought down SMU. Unfortunately, the UO also controls the media who either love the program or they don’t get their access. Canzano today basically, made Colt out to be the guy who was bitter and now that things have gone bad for him he wants to squeal. But he did bring up the fact that he didn’t name any booster names.

          So, what will happen? The booster or the “cleaner” will come in and give the family some help to make it all go away. That program is soooo dirty that they have no choice but sweep it under the rug.OR kill the guys character and make him lose any credibility.

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            I just don’t see the real motivation for Colt to lie about it at this point. He’s got an NFL job, right? Even with an injury?

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            Seems like it might depend on the NCAA. They are taking a hit these days and this might be a situation for them to use, to get back some standing. It shouldnt be too hard to look into the mother getting a house she couldnt otherwise pay for. Or is that kind of benefit, something not directly to the player, outside their rules?

            If the program is really dirty, which it seems to be, maybe the Lyerla thing getting them turning over stones will produce something solid, not even related to Lyerla .

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    So I’m confused here… with the signing of Tres Tinkle, how many tinkles are taking one or three? Please help clear this up. JB

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Everyone see this:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/craig_robinson_to_espn_represe.html

    CR apparently got a job at ESPN, so Bobby D will be able to subtract whatever he earns from his OSU payout. So more good news on the BBall front.

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    So, Dylan Wynn will be giving his thoughts on EACH game this season. We recently talked about his potential to become a coach and his passion as a player, lets see if he has perfected “coach speak” and if he can keep his intensity under control during these interviews. Personally, I don’t like this kind of overexposure for a single player but it certainly isn’t the first time for Riley (or even Casey) to allow this type of access to team members.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/09/oregon_state_beavers_football_151.html

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      Assuming the Beavs take their annual drubbing from someone – I’ll be curious to hear what he has to say after it.

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    Angie Machado (@AngieMachado1) tweeted at 4:43 PM on Wed, Sep 03, 2014:
    Beavs hoops aren’t slowing down. ’16 4-star SG Keith Smith (ranked #51) to make unofficial visit to #OregonState https://t.co/0XDwykV9ZM
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    Regarding Malik Gilmore and Hunter Jarmon. My lean is Jarmon as I fairly confidently suspect he can groom better habits for separating and earning the ball. I watched Gilmore and he is running tge routrsbut not in a way where he acts like he wants to be a top option on any given play. You have to be passionate about creating that extra 18+ inches of separation so that when Sean makes his reads he decides to throw to you instead of passing on the option. Then you have to be proactive to the ball and after securing it look for and fight for more yards. Gilmore is playing like he is an underclassmen and thinks he can be quiter on the field. But we need results and 1st downs from that and every offensive position so it is time to make yourself a more reliable target and contributing to drive production and getting it into the redzone and then into the endzone.

    Jarmon with a handful of catches I just think is going to get this sooner. I think OSU is better giving him a few real looks and showing he wants to be a real contributor. Maybe that will wake up Malik some. They both will see action but we need a player ready to go.

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      Above should read “quieter on the field” and not quiter regarding Gilmore. We need less passive play from him. Getting the ball thrown your way means you are earning it and the team needs as many hungry, smart and hard play contributors as we can get.

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      Jarmon is way better than Gilmore.

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    Curious to know if you think the Beavs will beat Hawaii this weekend. I see the Beavs are 12 pt favorites. It’s hard for me to think OSU will come out strong in this one after seeing the turd they laid last weekend. Plus, they have to travel to the islands, which can be tough. Of course, I do think they benefit greatly having just played at that stadium back in December. Maybe that is the x-factor? I did watch the Hawaii/UW game and both offenses looked pitiful.

    In the end, I think the Beavs beat Hawaii by 10 points and not cover.

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      Think we win by 6-10 points. If we score enough by staying committed to the run, including in the red zone, then I think our defense does enough to help us maintain just enough of a lead. Go hard for the TDs though as that will make life much more comfortable and help quiet the crowd. Take advantage.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      UW played without the suspended Cyler Miles at QB. If Miles plays, UW scores more than 17. I think that game was more of what the huskies didn’t do than what Hawaii did. That said, they sure do hit hard. I expect a raucous, drunken crowd for a 7:30 kickoff and a physical game. Hope we don’t lose anyone important.

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      I think it will be a tough game if by the second quarter: 1) OSU does not adjust well to the blitzes and 2) does not defend the run well. I think waiting until the second half to adjust is too late, simply because Riley will probably tend to throw even more.

      This line is too unsettled for my comfort and I don’t trust them to protect Mannion. I could see Mannion taking some hard shots in this game. Calling appropriate run plays – or audibling into them – will be valuable.

      Haskins got to practice with the traveling team, and reportedly ran hard and through tackles, but was also sidelined after contact. Doesn’t sound major, but I’d like to see him, and Brown, get reps.

      I’d also like to see some slants. Seems like a good time to take advantage of the height of Villamin and Gilmore?

      At this point, I can’t pick a winner. Will be interesting to read some Hawaii press on the state of the team after last week’s near miss.

      BTW – I went in Hawaii for the “extra” game in Matt Moore’s last year, and the game was a blast. The stadium was packed, the concrete walkways shook, they sold beer….luckily I had a bunch of Polynesian OSU fans right next to me. With the crowd at kickoff, my friend (a Duck fan first and a Beaver fan second) had said “You’re on your own buddy.” Stroughter had a great game and Brennan couldn’t quite get it done.

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    Crap! Just realized in bend we don’t get the CBS sports network anymore…need to go to plan B.

  • Bill says:
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    Here my thoughts on Sat’s game,

    1. I expect the offense to be more aggressive and take more shots down field.
    2. Looking for the defense to gear up against the run and make Hawaii win via the passing game. Similar defense to the 2nd half of last Saturday.
    3. I think the offense will use the screen game a little more to everyone, TEs, WRs and RBs.

    The Beavs should win this game. UW’s QB was starting his first game ever. Mannion should be a lot more consistent.

    Hoping the run game will open up more. OL needs to grow from last game. (TE’s looked very good blocking in the 3TE sets). Without the 50yard run from Woods, the RBs avg 3.5 per carry.

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