21.Jul.2015 What is your win total prediction?

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I received an email today asking my opinion for wins. Before saying what that is, I want to hear some opinions from others here. This is the most difficult season to predict in all my time following OSU athletics.

Below is the email. If you want some exposure on Twitter I can tell him to read the comments and pick the responses he finds useful. I’m also adding a poll so you can vote if you don’t want to type a response. AB has no opinion of that website, gambling, etc, and I’m not responsible for any of your loses. 😉

How Many Wins for the Beavers in 2015?

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Hi,

The college football win totals have been posted by Vegas for the upcoming season and I’m putting together some content for each team on what various experts think.

Naturally, I thought of you as someone who knows Oregon State very well and could offer my readers some insight. The Beavers win total is currently set at 4.

You can see the point spreads that are out for the games on the schedule, along with our estimates for games they haven’t posted one yet at:

http://www.boydsbets.com/oregon-state-football-predictions/

The question I have for you is: How many wins do you think Oregon State will have in the regular season this year?

I know you are busy so a lengthy response isn’t necessary, but If you have a moment and could give me 50-100 words I would love to include your opinion.

For an example of what I’m looking for, here is the LSU article which has quite a few contributors already: http://www.boydsbets.com/lsu-football-predictions/

Of course, I’ll include a link to your site and/or social media accounts to give you some exposure. Plus I’ll tweet your Twitter handle with the update to my nearly 3,500 followers.

There is no rush at all. I’ll be adding opinions right up until the start of the season so feel free to wait until you have some free time if you would like.

Thanks,
Jimmy

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  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    4-5

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Several things will be difficult to overcome.
    1) probably starting a true frosh QB….never a great option.
    2) No experience at all for the backup QB’s
    3) GA has a record as a program builder, but not a turn around guy.
    4) inexperience and relative lack of depth on D.
    5) New systems = more basic = easier for opposing coaches to game plan and counter things we are doing.

    • angry angry says:
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      Regarding #5…have you ever played Tecmo Bowl? There are only 4 plays, but you can still dominate the opponent.

      Joking, but I’d rather they run a simple offense and do it right than Riley’s complex disaster. This reminds me of Lou Reed, musician, who said something to the effect “I only learned 3 chords but I knew how to play them well.”…

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        I agree to a point about the simplification aspect, but when you have a scatter arm QB you have to be able to physically dominate the opposition to move the ball. The one positive thing is Baldwin seems like a very flexible guy with his schemes. Unlike Mr. Hip, hip.

        • Jack says:
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          Not in this O. You only need to make the threat of the under coverage or the run important. When you can do that, you buy an extra two seconds to throw to the intermediate routes that weren’t open on the three count.

          That’s what amazes me about NFL QB evaluations. I would think they only include the three second pocket. Apparently, they include the ten second slide or scramble pocket.

          I’m sorry (not really), but a QB who needs to scramble on the NCAA level will get killed on the NFL level. And here’s where I depart from bandwagon fan. I want my team to win. I don’t care one whit about the draft picks my team gets. I want my team to win on this level, not the next.

          Apologists need not reply.

  • Jack says:
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    On e of two things can happen. Either we go all Sonny Dykes and play a year without chemistry or a clue whilst changing up personnel and schemes, or we win six before we even get to November.

    I think the latter is more probable.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    4 wins (Weber, SJSU, UW, Colorado) I don’t have high expectations for this season, mainly because of the complete lack of game experience at the most important position. Add to that the new style of offense and there will be some growing pains. I’m hopeful that the defense will keep us in games, but the lack of depth will hurt if the offense isn’t able to give them some long drives to rest. I’m anticipating several 4th quarter losses. I do expect to see a more exciting brand of football, however.

    • Jack says:
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      I don’t think UW is a write-off. Petersen showed that he is a superior coach to Riley in so many ways at just UW. If GA beats him, that can be something to build on.

      Wazzu, Cal, Stanford and even UCLA are open. Utah is a wildcard. That can be a blowout either way.

  • angry angry says:
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    I have four games marked as wins:

    Weber State
    San Jose State
    Colorado
    Washington State

    Four games marked as loses:

    Oregon
    Stanford
    Arizona
    UCLA

    And four 50/50 games:

    Cal
    Washington
    Michigan (although with Harbaugh now there this is likely a loss)
    Utah

    Thoughts?

    • Jack says:
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      Why would SU, Zony and UCLA be losses? I mark Michigan as a loss just for the sake of it. Utah will be crazy one way or the other. Nikegon is vulnerable, but I think we’ll have to see what’s what at midseason before we say anything about that.

      I wish we had the USC cheap shot shits on our schedule. It sucks that we can’t get retribution.

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        I’m assuming those teams can still run the ball (I know UCLA has a good ground game), and I think the Beavers will be most vulnerable to the run. The Beavers really need ricky liuchan to step up this camp. He has to be out there over Mageo and Songy. Liuchan, Willis, Ugwoegbu is intriguing and gives them a chance. Mageo, Songy, xyz and teams will run all over the Beavs.

        The thing is, I know Andersen will figure this out.

        • Jack says:
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          I don’t see this dilemma. I can see it if we’re talking a Banker D, where he gets credit for being a great run D while giving up the pass for points galore. But I do not see our back 8 getting beat that often.

          That leaves it up to our front. I think there is far too much depth, even some great talent, to allow the run to flourish against us.

      • Jack says:
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        I mark Michigan as a loss for the sake of it because it’s an auto-loss if Riley is our coach. Maybe something happens that changes that outcome, but this team is still laden with “neato” Riley thought. That’s going to be the hardest thing for GA to flush.

        • angry angry says:
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          It does seem unlikely an OSU team beats Harbaugh at Michigan, but Michigan is still awful, right?

          • Jack says:
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            I’m just conditioned to a Riley team going to an iconic place and losing by any means at hand… or going to a place where our team just fucking gives up at halftime. I worry that his legacy remains in the mentality of players who can practice the hell out of it but can’t play a lick once the lights are on.

            I think GA and his staff are good enough to break the Riley mentality. But I have to see it first.

          • angry angry says:
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            Pretty much. ‘Beaver in boatlights’ syndrome

          • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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            Michigan had a bad record last year, but there is a lot of talent on the team. The D was pretty good, but the O was awful. Jimmy is one of the few coaches who can come in and make an immediate turn around. Hoke could not handle the prima donna players he was able to get to Ann Arbor. He was used to handling Riley type guys. Harbough will not have that problem. Who is a bigger prima donna than him? This will be a tough test for da Beavs and it could be a wipeout. If we play them tough it will be a very good sign.

          • Jack says:
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            I agree to a point. The talent on hand has to buy in to Harbaugh’s way. It would take an extreme knucklehead not to do so. Thankfully, none of those exist in college football.

            I still chalk it up as a loss because of residual Rileyness. Our team has no clue how to overcome the big lights. They know how to do it at home. But the big lights are a different story.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Meechicken will have had the same number of games under their belt under Harbaugh as the Beavs will have had under GA. One. Meechicken goes to Utah for their opener which will be much tougher than Weber State. Beavs can go vanilla in game one and easily win. Can Meechicken do the same? I’m not penciling the game in Ann Arbor as a loss right now.

            I used Meechicken in the correct context this time Beavergopher. You’re welcome

          • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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            You did. I’m very proud of you.

      • helmsley says:
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        I would just as soon not have USC on the schedule.This year, let them cheap shot, chop block, and cripple players from a different team. It was Banker’s shining moment when he publicly criticized USC’s coaches.

        • Jack says:
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          Yes, but Riley is no linger the coach. Teams can’t head hunt our WRs (Boise) or cheap shot our D-line’s legs (USCum) anymore without facing us next year (if not next play). When we had another coach, Fresno found out the next year what a cheap shot on a punt returner feels like.

          I know we were one of the most penalized teams in the country at that time for the same mentality. I’m not saying we need to go back to that. But we managed to be one of the most penalized teams in the country the last five years without that mentality. So what was the point?

  • seaverbeaver says:
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    Angry, what do you think of Dwayne Williams?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2015/07/oregon_state_beavers_football_168.html

    • angry angry says:
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      I don’t have an opinion on him, but the reports have all been positive. I’m not high on DeCoud (based on his highlight film. I think he projects better as a safety), so I hope Williams is better than him and takes the job. There are some other intriguing CBs in the mix. I think the Beavs will be okay at CB, barring a string of injuries.

  • wannabeav says:
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    I’m down for 4+. Weber, San Jose State, and two of the following three: Utah, Colorado, UW. Then they have a miracle pick up somewhere along the line; or, all three of the previous toss ups. I think Anderson catches the vibe of the early over-achieving Mike Riley, who among his “accomplishments” took the program through the whole progression from being overlooked, to being competitive, to being over-lookable. I think a more than a few opponents coming in this year figure this is the old Riley beavs, overlooks them, and with inferior talent but superior preparation (something we haven’t seen since 2009 or so,) Beavs steal one or two.

    • Jack says:
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      I don’t know why people are selling short on UW. Their QB sucked last year. But they managed to beat people on D. They are not deficient on the football front. I can be their QB, and they can go bowling.

      There are many other better selections on our schedule for wins. Petersen is not one of them. In fact, I would be happy if we didn’t get spanked 70 to something… as has been done. If Sitake allows that to occur, then I will immediately begin a campaign to have him fired.

      But we’re OSU… so it may take four or five years for anyone with any leverage to do anything.

      • Jack says:
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        … or… Shawn Eichorst can be hired somewhere after he’s fired from NU… and he can yank our mediocrity out from under us… again.

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        I agree with you on U Dub. Sleeping giant with a ton of money in that city.

  • scotty says:
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    NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, BABY

    or 4, it’s s toss-up

  • Jeff says:
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    Might be an optimist but I think 6 is the number.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    The one glimmer of hope vs Michigan is they play Utah on the road the prior week while we play Weber st. Hopefully Utah can wear them down a little before our game. That 9:00 am PST start will be tough though

  • AndersenEra says:
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    4 and 4+ have overlap. Would rather that said 5+ or 5 or more. It means at least 4 and that scews the vote by some. I think 5 or 6 with 5 a bit more likely and 6 near the cap for this year’s squad. They have the ability to reach a bowl but if they do it likely we be with 6 wins. I like Andersen’s leadership and focus on physical play. I like that there will be sufficient running in the 4th quarter even if we are down a score. Those things will pay off if only so much this year because of the exact match ups and having to really perform well to earn certain wins. I am higher on Collins than some here. I think passing will have its tough stretches but he is capable enough and a natural talent who the team will rally under. Combine his and others run threat and OSU has real options to move the chains. I hope he adds a little muscle to be able to take a few more hits. Others can come in for spells but to gut out some tough wins I see that leadership eminating mostly from Seth and a defense ready to stand out under Sitake.

    • angry angry says:
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      4 and 4+ have overlap

      4 means four even, and 4+ means more than four, so no overlap.

      • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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        lol

      • thatguy says:
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        Really? 4+ means mathematically ?4, not >4. Especially if we’re talking discrete, integer values. So I’d have to say that 4+ means 4, 5, 6,…,n. If you programmed what you just said into Matlab or Python and entered 4, you would get a cyclic error.

        My answer is 4 still, but you might want to change your own verbiage.

        • angry angry says:
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          4+ is meant as >4
          Just deal with it, buddy.

          • thatguy says:
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            You are literally arguing against math and worldwide accepted syntax. You can’t make up your own rules. This is like gravity and death and taxes. It just is.

          • angry angry says:
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            No, I’m arguing with a couple dorks who want to nitpick to show they understand math. Yeah, I understand that >4 is technically correct, but I didn’t feel like writing that. I actually paused and thought about it, how I didn’t like how the > sign looked, so I wrote 4+. Contrary to what you say, I can make my own rules. 99% of people here got it. Two dorks didn’t. Go take a cold shower, dood, and wank it to the greater than sign. Then get back to me and see how you feel. I think you’ll be a lot more calm about this.

          • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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            never admit you’re wrong! insult those that disagree! classic angry 😉

          • angry angry says:
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            Oh I will admit I’m wrong. Like Johnny Hekker somehow became a great punter…and Hamlet turned out to be a decent TE.

            But I’m not wrong here. I changed it because I wanted to be nice to the dorks.

          • Jack says:
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            Hekker wasn’t good for us except for one bowl game… if that was him. Allen was obviously the better college and pro punter. But he couldn’t play in the Pro Bowl (a pathetic show) because his team was busy still playing.

          • angry angry says:
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            Regarding Hekker, I meant in the pros.
            He was awful in college

          • angry angry says:
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            Thumbing me down won’t change that you’re being a dork. 😉

        • thatguy says:
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          that was a >= sign btw

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Anybody here know where I could pick up an OSU sock monkey for my newborn?

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Sorry, a little off topic

    • angry angry says:
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      I hear Medford has them.

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        A little too far for me, unless they have free shipping. Plus, does anything good come out of that town?

        • scotty says:
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          Anything good come out of Medford? Well, one of my ex-girlfriends did. So… no.

          • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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            I kid, Medford isnt that bad. Cheap gas stop before hitting California

          • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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            Also, In-n-out.

          • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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            Is that open now?

          • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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            Last I heard, it could open as soon as this September, and it’ll definitely be ready by the end of the year.

          • scotty says:
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            No in n out in Nebraska. Biley’s screwed

    • angry angry says:
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      Ask Beavbutter; I bet he knows where to find a sock monkey or two or three or four.

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        Is he still around? Haven’t heard from him lately, or angry@angry either. Maybe I should knock on wood.

        By the way, couldn’t find any online shops yet with monkeys featuring the new logo. They all have the angry Benny logo. Somebody really needs to fill that niche market.

        • angry angry says:
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          By the way, couldn’t find any online shops yet with monkeys featuring the new logo

          That’s because Beavbutter bought them all.

          • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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            What an asshole. This is for my kid. Now he’ll have to grow up never having his own Beaver monkey.

            Hate to think of what reason butter would have for hoarding them all.

          • Jack says:
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            I think this sub-thread devolved into JP, his monkey and a sock. They’re all relevant when taken together, but I think it has nothing to do with what you might want to purchase.

          • Jack says:
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            Btw… John Lennon thinks JP’s monkey has something to hide.

  • Mb says:
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    Jeffersonian Republic of Medford vs People’s Republic of Portland. Hmmm, which would be preferable?

    • Jack says:
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      Portland… easily. Seattle Seahawks vs Midget Seahawks in Eugene kid league. Hmmm, which could possibly win a Super Bowl?

      • WFO WFO says:
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        Transvestites and heroin vs. Skinheads and meth.

        No thank you to both.

        • Jack says:
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          I’d much rather wander streets where heroin is the drug of choice. Meth junkies are just lousy, paranoid dicks.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    I go with 4+ The opponents all had the Riley book down, knew his foibles. So I think there will be a surprise win or two down the road. Kinda like us beating AZ in basketball.

    To Thatguy, dude, you are in the age of words, etc meaning whatever the fuck one wants them to mean at the moment. English in a blender….lol.

  • angry angry says:
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    I changed it to 5+. Revenge of the nerds around here…

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Ogre approves

      https://hallofbeorn.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/nerds-ogre.jpg

    • Jack says:
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      Well… they were correct. So there’s that.

      • angry angry says:
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        They really weren’t.

        • Jack says:
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          so… hard… not… responding… to… this…. leave it… don’t… type….

          • Jack says:
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            Did I say that out loud?

          • angry angry says:
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            If I said to you, in person, “will the beavs win 4 plus games” would you assume that means four or more than four? in baseball, they say “hey went six plus innings.” It doesn’t mean he went 6.

            Regarding syntax, rules are invented all the time. C++ language uses the exact syntax in question here to add to variables, so how is 4+ such a big deal? It clearly means more than 4 wins, and if someone was confused, it should be even more clear in the larger context of the poll (since 4 wins was listed as the second option, 4+ obviously means more than that). The only reason I can see this is a big deal is people want to be dorky sticklers. They know what it meant, they know syntax is constantly created in various fields, they know in the context of the poll it means more than 4. Again, huge dorks just trying to nitpick. They got excited because they know some math and want to wax philosophical about it. Duh, of course “>” is technically correct. Helloooooo. What sticklers and dorks!

          • Jack says:
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            in baseball, they say “hey went six plus innings.” It doesn’t mean he went 6.

            Yeah… it does. It means hey pitched in the seventh, after completing six and starting the seventh. If hey didn’t start the seventh after completing six, it would be scored as just six innings.

            You know this. It’s not a big deal. Just stop.

          • Jack says:
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            And because of that conversation, I’m buying six wins this year.

          • angry angry says:
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            That’s more than 6 innings; he’s pitching in the 7th.

            Again, if you see 4 listed it’s there for a reason. 4+ obviously means more than 4. Otherwise it wouldn’t be there as a poll option.

          • Jack says:
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            6+ in baseball means hey started the seventh but got nobody out. If he got someone out, it would be reported as 6-1/3 or 6-2/3 innings. The plus just means hey played six full innings “plus” more.

            Nate Yeskie might want to think about all this in the future.

          • angry angry says:
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            We’re going in circles now.

            In baseball, 6 plus means he is pitching in the 7th. In my poll, 4 plus means more than 4 (obvious, since 4 is its own selection). Dorks get made over a [lack of] > sign. That’s an ugly sign. To appease them I did 5+, though 4+ was fine.

          • Jack says:
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            ?

          • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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            Regarding syntax, rules are invented all the time. C++ language uses the exact syntax in question here to add to variables, so how is 4+ such a big deal?

            Are you referring to the “++” increment operator? That’s not the exact same syntax and it increments the number, it doesn’t mean “greater than,” though you noted that.

            Also, Fun Fact: The reason it’s called C++ is because it’s the next iteration of C. And C# is meant to be the next iteration, as a # symbol looks like four plus signs!

            — Proud “dork”

          • Jack says:
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            I think he stopped. We can stop too.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            Naaaa …. C# is the next note above C….

  • WFO WFO says:
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    I’m going with 6 for no good reason.

  • angry angry says:
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    This is what I wrote to Jimmy Boyd:

    Vegas is right on the money with an over/under of 4. There’s a lot of emphasis on what the Beavers don’t have (an experienced QB), but what they do have is a deep wr corp of Villamin, Bolden, Jarmon, and Guyton. They might be the best group in the conference. This should mesh well with Gary Andersen and Dave Baldwin’s propensity for bubble screens. The Beavers should also have a good running game with Storm Woods and Chris Brown. Also, there is an intangible energy surrounding the program. All of this, along with a vaunted coaching staff, should keep the Beavers in more games than people think. Prediction: 5 wins
    ———-

    Maybe that should be a new thread, because I feel this QB talk is overblown, given the talent around the QB. Andersen will play the best guy, and all that guy has to do is get the ball ~10 (or fewer) yards down field most plays to be effective. If they simplify the playbook- even better. Let the RBs carry the load. Throw short passes. I think they can be a surprise team with that formula. Then there’s Ryan Nall, who could be a weapon…

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Saw this the other day which makes me hopeful this offense will end up better than we expected. Coach Baldwin’s offense last year was tied with Oregon at 3rd for team with most plays over 30+ yards at 44. I may need to start watching some CSU film before the season starts.

      https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/622803315332616192

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        He had an great QB and running back. Also a probable high draft pick at WR. The QB was the third QB taken in the draft, so I don’t know if that is applicable. You can open up the playbook with an experiencekd and accurate QB. Vanilla might be too flavorful for what we get this year on O.
        Land rodents play them week two in Ft. Collins.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    I’m thinking 5-6 wins. My expectation for the staff right now is win the games your supposed to win, and pull off 1-2 surprises/upsets along the way. Anything beyond that is gravy.

    Only thing that gave me pause when I was penciling out wins is most of the current pac 12 “bottom feeders” have solid qb’s with experience. Deep league this year. The top end might not be as good as last year, but top to bottom it’s going to be a tough slate to get through.

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    OT: Any news/ rumors on the VFC fundraising?

    • Jack says:
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      Nothing on the numbers. But here’s a great rendering of what it will look like.
      https://www.ourbeavernation.com/capital-projects/victory-through-valley/

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        Except for the stupid logo, it looks pretty cool.

        • angry angry says:
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          The logo, too. I think we have a bra uniform situation brewing here. Hopefully they let fans chime in because they don’t know what they’re doing. As is, that setup will not age well. The logo and carpet are both huge problems.

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          It would look better if it was all black and there was no border (you know, the unofficial logo used by beavblazer). It still looks better than existing regardless. I just have to wonder why it’s white. They’re going to have to clean it every day.

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        They need to change that carpet. It looks like a casino in there.

        • Jack says:
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          I know. That was the first thing I saw too. It doesn’t look like a casino. It looks like a casino in a Sambo’s in Winnemucca… if there ever was such a thing.

          Is the original Sambo’s still open?

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    I’m sure many have already seen this, but if not, OSU is asking fans to email them suggestions about how to improve their game day experience. Since we often have opinions here, maybe we should compile a list of the changes we’d like to see, and then each of us can email that list in separately?

    The helmet, chainsaw and fireworks have been popular ones, but there have been many others on here in the past, and it appears they’re willing to listen to suggestions.

    https://twitter.com/OSUBeaversFB/status/623658900890484736

    • Jack says:
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      better concessions for that price… go as local as possible… zenners and resers are fine… I don’t expect gourmet, but I expect as good as I can get at home for a quick bite

      west side bathrooms… I haven’t been in the west side stands for a game since the one time I sat there, pre-2005… that was an ill-conceived build.

      beer garden the practice fields and fence it off for access to the stadium… with closed circuit coverage of the game… if people need alcohol to be in a crowd (something that actually causes me anxiety) then let them have it in a controlled environment and have unfettered access to and fro the stands.

      lose the jackboots… complaints from grumpypants fat g’ma shouldn’t be answered with fourteen uniformed morons looking to use some unnecessary gifted power.

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        Does anybody remember the restrooms on the eastside prior to the Reser renovation? They used to have a shack with a giant trough in it for all the guys to piss in together. The ceiling was low too, so it felt all claustrophobic standing there with shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of dudes holding their junk. And that was as recently as the late 90’s.

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          You sound nostalgic LOL.

          • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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            That will be my suggestion for improving the gameday experience. Bring back the trough!

          • Jack says:
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            Give ’em something to aim for!

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            Some guy’s piss splattering back on your leg…….

          • Jack says:
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            So you’re saying night games are better because we’re wearing pants?

          • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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            WSN would beg to differ.

          • Jack says:
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            I’m not sure what pants have to do with the all-nite breakfast deal a Denny’s.
            Just for the helluvit… licking the boomerangs… so artistic….

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          They also had honey buckets along the outer fence where people went to smoke. I prefer those to the west side.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    The loud F’ing piped in music! Does there have to bear ear splitting noise every down second?
    College football……let the bands play. This is not the NFL.

    • Jack says:
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      It’s worse at PK Park. An organ is great for baseball, but piped music in between every pitch is annoying as hell.

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        Twins games are about as bad. Baseball is supposed to have some quiet time.

        • Jack says:
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          One would think.

          Twinkies games, btw, are bad because they’re in a dome where the AC is constantly on along with the drone of the crowd. I could never stay awake at those games. And I talking the days of Puckett and Hrbeck and Gagne and Mickey (before he went to the dogs… I loved him there too.

          Bonus stuff growing up… listening to the radio broadcasts and hearing Yaz try to pronounce Mike Pagliarulo’s last name… and stopping everything to laugh for the loss when Mike Davis came in to relieve.

    • helmsley says:
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      I give that comment 10 thumbs-up. I loathe in-game (any sport) promotions, media TOs. I have no idea how bsktball players get into the flow of the game and I hope the new rules improve the situation. As for baseball – I guess the kids are used to constant noise, and they don’t notice – but so-called music between batters? Baseball is a little better though because there isn’t all the on-field junk and I can ignore the screen except for replays.

      If you read any of the comments re: attendance down @MK arena in Eugene, apparently there are almost legions of fans who prefer to watch an unadulterated sporting event and choose their own entertainment otherwise.

      • Jack says:
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        The Mausoleum is just a poor place to watch a game. You have to see it for yourself in order to understand. Someone dropped a really big ball there.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Mississippi State is ahead of the game on this one. Expect every other team to follow their lead.

    http://www.forwhomthecowbelltolls.com/2015/7/22/9014589/msu-launches-hail-state-emoji-app

    • Jack says:
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      Screw that. But it does bring up another issue. Put a cell/wi-fi tower on top of VFC and boost the free OSU wi-fi capacity. Fans with phones or tablets should be able to pick up games and replays and communicate while in their seats. I forgive those who need these devices while at a game. It’s a new world.

  • angry angry says:
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    My full commentary to him is up on the site now:
    http://www.boydsbets.com/oregon-state-football-predictions/

    • angry angry says:
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      I think experience is overrated in some cases. Boyd is harping on it a bit and leading him to a ridiculous 2 win prediction.

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        Speaking of ridiculous, his explanation of the poor offense in the 2014 season, “What got overlooked was the departure of offensive coordinator Danny Langsdorf and the loss of talented wide out Brandin Cooks.”

        Ridiculous, on a couple levels.

      • WFO WFO says:
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        That’s why they play the games.

        If it was up to boners like that they’d just drop the crown on Alabama’s head every year and call it good.

  • angry angry says:
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    Ryan Nall could have a big year.

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      Sounds great!
      But at about 2:08……..Baldwin..Hand Jive??……..who’da thunk! lol

      • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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        No one woulda made fun of Banker for his hand jives if he had been fielding competitive defenses! Well, we might have, but it would have been much more good natured…

  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    I generally do a power rating on each game for every team and the only preseason magazine I trust to actually do their due diligence is Phil Steele’s (most accurate the last 17 years in that department). I generally find my power prediction ballparks to have an 85-90 percent accuracy rate by the end of the season (that’s for all teams, not just Beavers). I will list each game, the point spread, what was said about it and where the opponent was predicted to finish. I view a game with a spread of more than 7 as a must win, between 7 pt favorite and 7 pt underdog as a swing game, and anything under that… Good Luck. The first stanza is what was predicted about the Beavers:

    OREGON STATE SYNOPSIS: (Oregon State’s Power Ranking is #86).
    When the regular season ended, I do not think anyone could have envisioned Gary Andersen as the head coach here. Andersen seemed secure at Wisconsin and Mike Riley had wrapped up his 12th season in Corvallis. Riley surprisingly left for Nebraska and Andersen brought his 35-10 record over his last 45 games to Oregon State. This sure looks like a rebuilding year though. There figures to be a drastic change in offense and he has 0 career attempts at QB with three frosh battling for the job. OSU is last in the Pac-12 in terms of experience (#122 NCAA) and has just 10 returning starters. The Beavers play five Pac-12 road games and take on UCLA and Stanford at home so they figure to be a dog in at least 7 conference games. After going 42-30 in Pac-12 play from 2006-2013 they slipped to 2-7 in 2014 and, with the changes and inexperience, they don’t figure to fare much better this year.
    PREDICTION: 6th Place North

    SEPTEMBER 4: Weber State (-21.5)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: FCS
    First meeting. In 2013 OSU lost to Eastern Washington to open the season & are just 2-2 the last 4 years vs FCS foes. Wildcats went 2-10 last year (3rd straight 2 win season) including a 45-14 loss at Arizona State. The Beavers are 15-3 in home openers.

    SEPTEMBER 12: at Michigan (+14.5)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 35/4th Big Ten East
    Last time here (1986) OSU lost by 19 in the midst of a 3-8 season. OSU has won 3 straight road openers but are 5-11 in away games vs non-conference foes since 2003. HC Andersen did not face Michigan the last 2 years while at Wisconsin.

    SEPTEMBER 19: San Jose State (-8.5)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 94/4th Mountain West – West Division)
    OSU has won 3 straight but the last game was in 1997 (26-12 win). Into 2015, OSU is 5-1 hosting non-conference opponents with the average win by 26 points per game (loss by 3 points). OSU last started 2 straight seasons 3-0 in 1999 & 2000 (Fiesta Bowl win).

    SEPTEMBER 25: Stanford (+18)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 8/T-1st Pac-12 North
    OSU has lost 5 straight but the home team is 6-2. Last year OSU tied the game 7-7 on a 5 yard, 1 play “drive” after an interception with 2:03 left in the 1st quarter. Stanford went on to score 31 unanswered until a garbage TD with 3:54 left. OSU had just 78 yards through 3 quarters.

    OCTOBER 3: BYE

    OCTOBER 10: at Arizona (+16)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 33/T-4th Pac-12 South
    Last time here (2012) OSU won 38-35. OSU led 17-0 until an Arizona TD with 3:29 before halftime sparked 21 straight into the late 3rd quarter. The last 6 scores all changed the lead including an OSU 9 yard game winning TD pass with 1:09 left (Arizona intercepted 4 plays later).

    OCTOBER 17: at Washington State (+5.5)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 65/T-4th Pac-12 North
    Oregon State is 8-3. Last time here OSU trailed 24-17 with 4:50 left in the 3rd quarter. OSU then scored 35 unanswered forcing turnovers on 6 straight Washington State drives! Into 2015, the Beavers are 8-14 in Pac-12 road games including a 1-5 run.

    OCTOBER 24: Colorado (+6.5)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 46/6th Pac-12 South
    Last year OSU led 17-7 into 2nd quarter but after allowing a TD with :43 left, trailed 21-20 at halftime. OSU opened the 2nd half scoring 16 of the first 19 points. Colorado did get within 5 & had the ball with 2:08 left at the OSU 44 but 4 plays later was stopped on downs.

    OCTOBER 31: at Utah (+18)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 21/T-4th Pac-12 South
    Visitor is 2-5 but OSU won the last time here in overtime. Down one, the beavers went 79 yards in 8 plays to lead 45-38 with 2:29 left but allowed a 9 yard TD run with :21 left. In OT Utah got a field goal while OSU tossed a game winning 6 yard TD pass. Gary Andersen was a 2 year football letterwinner at Utah (1985-1986) and spent 1997-2002 and 2004-2006 on the Ute coaching staff (last 4 years as the DC).

    NOVEMBER 7: UCLA (+16)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 12/2nd Pac-12 South
    Last 4 decided by 8 or less including 2012’s (last meeting) 27-20 OSU win at Rose Bowl. OSU led 17-3 2nd quarter. UCLA cut the lead to 7, 3 times but OSU answered with 88 & 74 scoring drives & then ran out all but the last :05.

    NOVEMBER 14: at California (+12)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 36/3rd Pac-12 North
    The Beavers have won 6 straight trips to Berkeley by 13 points per game (last losing visit in 1997). OSU last dropped 2 straight vs Cal in 1997/1998. Last time here OSU led 28-3 at halftime and in the 2nd half Cal never got closer than 25 points.

    NOVEMBER 21: Washington (+3)
    Opposition Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 70/T-4th Pac-12 North
    Last year OSU trailed 17-0 2nd quarter & never got closer than double digits. Into 2015, OSU is 24-15 in Pac-12 home games but is just 2-7 the last 2 years.

    NOVEMBER 27: at Oregon (+25.5)
    Oppostion Power Ranking/Predicted Finish: 6/T-1st Pac-12 North
    119th Civil War. Series has been played every year since 1945. Last time here featured 4 lead changes in the 4th quarter (the last 4 scores). Oregon State led by 5 after a 25 yard TD run (2 pt conversion) with 1:38 left but allowed an 83 yard/9 play TD drive for a game winning 12 yard TD pass with :29 remaining.

    BREAKDOWN:
    Definitive Wins (favorite of 7 or more): Weber State, San Jose State
    Small Favorites (favorite of 7 or less): None
    Small Underdogs (dogs of 7 or less): @ Washington State, Colorado, Washington
    Probable Losses (dogs of 7 or more): @ Michigan, Stanford, @ Arizona, @ Utah, UCLA, @ California, @ Oregon

    Predicted Record: 2-10
    Best Case Scenario: 5-7
    Worst Case Scenario: 2-10

    Obviously, I want us to be 12-0. But when crunching numbers I take my bias out of it. This is what came back from the computer, and it looks like we’re going to have to have a little patience as Andersen installs his new systems.

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Is this Dave Bartoo?

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        Uh, don’t know who that is.

        • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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          Sorry, he’s the guy that runs college football matrix. They way you were talking reminded me of him when i hear him on the radio, and he lives locally (forest grove i think)

  • OSU4Life says:
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    Our program is totally depleted. There are about zero defensive players with significant playing time and we have a complete tool box of rusty hammers at QB where GA is instilling a new offense. This is going to be tough year and I really think the only two games that we can look at as for sure wins are Weber(Remember SacSt?) and Colorado (remember how they almost beat us last year?). I think any win total above 3 this season is a success. I hope that I am wrong. I predict 3 wins.

    • angry angry says:
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      You’re wrong.

      Let’s remember what I said during baseball season: talent trumps experience.

      5 wins minimum.

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    Where is the talent?

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