Per Mamma Machado: From sources: Brady Hoke has been contacted about the OSU job, while Justin Wilcox and Matt Wells have not.
Just checked in and they said Michigan is laughing at us like we’re laughing at Nebraska. All seem disappointed. These are the same guys who loved Riley just because he was their coach (and hated him the second he left), so if nothing they’re loyal to their active coach. Yet, they do not want anything to do with Hoke.
Personally, I would take Tedford over Hoke. That is how badly I do not want Hoke.
Mamma Machado gave clues yesterday that it could be Hoke. She said it would be an interesting story line if he coached for the Beavs at Michigan next year, someone mentioned he’s invested in apartment complexes in Corvallis, is friends with Hoke from their days at Michigan in the mid 90s, and the real kicker is that Michigan is still paying a big part of his salary. I bet Bob D views this as a value hire and figures if things go wrong, who cares, Michigan is on the hook. That is a small-minded mentality and no way to run an AD. My fear is he will hire him out of nepotism (he knows him) and because he is cheap. This makes no sense with the rumor from last night, unless that rumor was for the VFC, which there’s an announcement for on Wednesday. So these could be unrelated things, and we could wind up with Hoke. Talk about a disaster…many at Blitz say they’d rather have Riley than Hoke.
If this goes down it will be an amazing feat for BDC to hire the one candidate everyone seems to agree they don’t want. There will be zero excitement over this guy. Rumors are he’s a jerk who mistreated his QB last year, too, so his bad resume isn’t the only problem.
Nebraska made a hire for non-football reasons (“Riley is a nice guy and not Pelini”) and it will end poorly for football reasons.
Your rationale for his behavior are reasonable, but I truly hope BDC does not make the same mistake, hire for convenience/budget, suffer on the field.
We can look to the Robinson decision, as latent as it was, and subsequent Tinkle hire as an example that BDC may do better than Hoke.
C’mon BDC, don’t screw this up. This is a major opportunity to energize the program and fanbase and move forward. Actually, its a great way for BDC to go out on a positive note. Imagine if he soon leaves OSU having put Rueck, Tinkle, and Wells or better in place at OSU.
“Nebraska made a hire for non-football reasons (“Riley is a nice guy and not Pelini”) and it will end poorly for football reasons.”
That’s nuts. Nebraska hired Riley away from Oregon State because they say they’ve been studying him up close for ten straight years (and we can therefor only presume that their first run at him was not in November/December, 2014), and they are convinced that he’s the 2nd coming of Amos Alonzo Stagg, concealed only by being buried in Corvallis with a high school stadium and high school facilities. That’s what their AD says in so many words.
It’s worse than when OSU fans were laughing at Nebraska for hiring Riley, because EVERYBODY is laughing at us at the prospect of hiring Hoke. Michigan fans, tOSU fans, OSU fans, Pac-12 fans. All laughing at this idea.
This is the post that started all of the Hoke rumors this morning, so hopefully this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s gone viral, so hopefully OSU does something to squash it as damage control (hoping it’s incorrect of course)
https://twitter.com/joshnewberg247/status/541976624472653824?s=03
The only positive feedback is from Michigan fans who are worried we’ll be seeing Oregon State vs Arizona in the Pac-12 championship in a few years, thinking maybe they somehow screwed up a good thing with Hoke like they did with Rich Rod.
It’s not that guy Mamma Machado wrote it.
I see, a little chicken and the egg. So in this case, Mama is the chicken……or is she the egg???
I’m going with egg. She’s probably using the 247 guys tweet as her “source.”
yeah, i’m curious of the timing, cause the 247 guy had an unnamed source too. His message was at 7:24 this AM. Not sure about mama since I don’t read Blitz. They could be scratching each other’s backs.
A Letter From Bob De Carolis – December 8
Well time for me to step away from all the speculation about the hire. It is stressing me out more than 3 minutes left on the clock and Riley team has the ball with 3 time-outs left.
From the other team’s 40 and won’t even get a FG attempt.
Pfft, get real. As if Riley would have all three timeouts left at the end of a game.
I guess the fans won’t be able to covert unused Riley timeouts into Dari Mart gift cards anymore….that was a helluva a promotion while it lasted!
Not sure if serious…. :-|
Ted Miller always been solid and seems to really get the pulse here:
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/81596/everyone-wins-with-riley-bolting-to-nebraska
“….always solid….” Haven’t I told you a billion times not to exaggerate?
Seriously, Miller is the #1 guy for telling us to shut up and be happy with Riley
He actually told me that using nicer words, but a condescending tone when I e-mailed him a few years back and told him to quit overlooking and making excuses for Riley’s teams slow starts which cost them a chance to go from good to great.
He did evolve to slow endings.
I wonder what he’ll tell Nebraska fans…
Yeah, he is one of the most even-keeled sports writers I know of, except when it comes to criticism of Riley. Riley’s ability to make sports “journalists” feel not stupid was powerful.
I don’ t remember the shutup and take it stance from him.. I feel like over the last year or so reading his stuff he was coming around to the truth.. I think he even said as much at the start of the year and then again at the end..
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/81390/plenty-of-grumpy-teams-in-pac-12
“Many Oregon State fans have risen up against coach Mike Riley after a seventh consecutive loss to Oregon, which ensured a third losing season in five years. His once-secure status is now precarious.”
That’s because we gave him crap for his, “Who are you gonna get to coach your shitty little school in your podunk town other than Mike Riley,” piece last year.
He’s overselling Riley’s in game abilities. Nebraska is going to suddenly make the playoffs under Riley? West division championships don’t mean shit in the Big 10.
Consider yourself bitch-slapped in the virtual sense.
Vitch slap.
I was very curious about the “absurd” hire and more money pouring in from donors, but I’m thinking that was just “Blitz Bullshit”. I mean if you have a name then name them…..it’s just a message board. Is Mama Machado that tight with important people at the university that she would catch heat for putting a name out there?
She didn’t write that, a member showed up and wrote it and he was told not to name the name. He wasn’t being sensational about it and seemed legit.
Then it sure isn’t Hoke, if that guy is legit. I’ll have a fucking meltdown if it’s Hoke.
I understood that she didn’t write it, but couldn’t the poster have named names and kept anonymity or did Mama tell him not to? Name names or stay home!
He said he couldn’t name them.
“Don’t mean to give false hope, and the info I have is 2nd hand. Has anyone heard about a donor meeting for our largest donors tomorrow? If so they are thinking of a bigger name then I would have ever thought was possible or anyone has mentioned as a possibility. DA had every reason to be excited in his tweet.”
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Mamma comes in: “I heard a similar rumor as well, and am trying to confirm with a few people. My source said meeting with Pres. Ray to secure the money for a top tier coach. At this point it is all rumor and hearsay, but it does appear to have legs and could prove to be a bold move for the Beavs to compete in the conference with the big boys.”
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“Was told I couldn’t mention the name. The donors are being asked for big money and they are not just taking a stab at their target. There is mutual interest which seemed so absurd that it was hard for me to believe, That’s why I asked the original question. The name I heard has no college head coaching experience so if that’s what you’re looking for and this is true, I guess you’ll be disappointed!”
If he’s not supposed to name them, I don’t want him to, even anonymously. Integrity FTW (or if you’re Riley, integrity FTL)
Sometimes leaks can’t be legitimized because they can only come from one or two places, and it would be known immediately who is talking. The normal leaks like the Hoke contact are dispersed by choice more to feel out public sentiment than anything. If the name is quiet and needs to remain so, then there likely need to be some dealings before the name can even be leaked.
Of course, look at how Eichorst (my new favorite AD) operated and how many rumors were out there about Riley. Perhaps Bobby D learned a little from that and will move more decisively without all the politics.
I like the phrase “legitimate leaks”……I think Gopher will too.
That depends.
Punnery can be painful
I caught that!
She’s in overdrive selling subscriptions right now.
“free” subscriptions
What gives me hope is I’m pretty sure she had no idea about Tinkle until someone in the AD threw her a bone. The basketball search was ‘open’ compared to this search. Media-types had the names and were updating daily. That’s the kind of stuff that happens when someone in the AD is willingly holding the media’s hand.
I hope so. Hoke is back up on the front page. I even hate looking at this face.
So do I. If you, or your staff, can’t get the job done at Michigan with consistent top-15 or better recruiting classes then what in the hell is he going to do here?
He looks strikingly similar to Gov. Chris Christie
I don’t like fat, sloppy head coaches in polo shirts with their guts hanging over their waistbands…..it that so wrong?
So we would be getting sloppy seconds?
Wait, are you calling me a head coach? Dick.
You are right.
Even Riley was getting a little worse for wear with his hunched over shoulders and 12 layers of clothing. Tinkle with Hoke…..I don’t think so.
god fucking damnit why did you have to say that. now i want to kill myself.
I suspect she has little, genuinely significant inside information, which would I think good relationships with prominent donors on a subject like this.
For that site, and others like it, now is the time to sensationalize and try to attract subscribers. It doesn’t matter if they’re wrong as long as they get attention. Hell, even if they’re wrong they sensationalize: “OSU coaching shocker!”
This guy is squashing any talk of Bronco
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865617210/Expect-Whittingham-and-Mendenhall-to-stick-around-awhile.html
Makes sense, but has Bronco seen his schedule? BYU as an independent is falling further and further into the abyss. Maybe he knows something about future plans for the program. Playing Savannah St. and Middle Tennesee in November ain’t going to get you much notice.
The latest thinking is the flirtations with the Big 12 might pop up again, if the conference sees the lack of a championship game as a hindrance to the playoffs and feels it needs to add 2 teams.
good. keep the mormons away.
Duck buddy of mine reports that he has until 5:00 today to buy Rose Bowl tickets at $185 each and reserve, if they win, National Championship tickets at $670 each.
Thanks to BDC and Mike Riley for saving us the money. Hip-Hip-Horray! JB
PS: When Riley hits 65 soon the cheer will become “My hip..My hip… oye-vey”
LOL
More posts:
donors are growing weary of BDC, and are looking for new energy for the AD position. Potentially from within.
I think that is pretty well documented. Have heard a couple of donors say their wallets are remaining mostly closed until BDC is gone. Donors that have a voice with the University.
This would be good news 6 months from now, but not when BDC needs the support to make a good hire in the next week.
Yea exactly open up the books and influence the hire then get him out…
From BDC’s letter, “..life lessons, values and character. They will help guide our student-athletes to success in life and careers upon leaving OSU.”
I imagine for some of the kids this is necessary, but for myself I think those are parental and extended family responsibilities. I wouldn’t want an institution teaching my kid “values,” I want them to provide an education. Similarly, if I had a football-playing child, I want the coach to compete ethically and be an effective football coach.
I think the university – or Riley at least – uses the “life lessons” thing as a bit of an out to compensate for competent coaching and play. “Yeah, I can’t call a timeout, teach you to block or tackle, but I’m teaching kids about life here. You have to focus on what’s really important in shaping young men’s lives..” etc. etc.
I agree, when did OSU become surrogate parents? If anything college is the opposite: a time for a kid to leave the nest and explore their freedom. If they’re out of control the university can step in and help out, but it’s not their place to be explicitly teaching those traits.
And who thinks Brady Hoke can teach any of that? What happened with his QB last year? Someone told me he pulled a real dick move, but I haven’t researched it.
The QB situation was likely the handling of the backup QB when he appears to get concussed (link below). The video is the most telling. I live in Ann Arbor and there was outrage over this. This includes student protests outside the president’s office. Needless to say…they’re all laughing at OSU right now.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fireable-offense-brady-hoke-140727469.html?.tsrc=mtk
They’re laughing about a rumor with zero credibility. Laugh all you want MeChicken.
concur. in loco parenti (a Latinate expression , meaning in the place of parents) went by the boards in higher ed in the 1970’s; only to be resurrected by Mike Riley and his boys & girls club outlook on his role
You guys are overstating it. Since these kids do get freedom for the first time, the values they need to have instilled are internalized ones–being on time and present, communicating well, learning to live on one’s own, etc. The screening process for acceptance to school takes into account what the kid/s have already learned and how they apply their familial and community values to their personal lives. Colleges take those personal values, enhance them and make them compatible with professional values. They don’t change them.
This is bizarre….
Ryan Easterling ?@RyanEasterling 11m11 minutes ago
DeKalb RB Dre Brown tells me Oregon State just offered him.
Who on the staff is extending offers today?
Garrett’s working his ass off baby!
Probably Riley. He IS a slow processor. He’ll probably extend several OSU offers before he remembers he and Dee have gone ’round the block again.
Haha
Maybe it was a joke?
don’t think it’s a joke. it’s been reported by more than one person
Locey with Gundy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPxPSzz0LBY
I’m guessing his philosophy is Buffets offer the best value?”
Does Corvallis even have any buffets? Hoke should research that first.
Brady Joke
A Chinese one on 9th I think.
You been here four hours!
You go now!
Avoid “time limit” buffetts at all costs!
Apparently you don’t remember that comedy bit?
Seinfeld?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAkXPpBnSkM
Some fun tweets on this fake bobDecarolis twitter page.
https://twitter.com/FakeBobDecarols
Had me hooked at this:
“i also love to count beans – any beans.”
Lost me halfway through the third tweet.
Fake BDC with a mustache looks like Jeffrey Tambor.
Again, Machado has got nothing. The only thing she has for sure is pictures so she can get people to sign up.
She’s always behind and is just speculating at this point. There’s no way she’ll be the one to break the news so just ignore her.
Can’t believe angry is falling for the clickbait.
she is such a lying sack of shit.
my above statement has just as much credibility as she has with her insider hiring knowledge.
I’m not falling for it, just reading it and then commenting on it. e.g. I do not want Hoke. That doesn’t mean I think he’s the coach. I do agree this is a feeler, and we need to squash it, which is pretty much my job at this point. All of you should blow up BDCs mailbox and twitter with a no hoke campaign.
from Nak in the previous thread:
“Tony Dungy’s name came up for some weird ass reason.”
Starting to wonder more about Tony. He fits the criteria of never been a head coach in college and he would also be ‘so absurd it is hard to believe.’
Also, he used to work with Perry, who as far as I know has not been linked to Lincoln.
from Eggers’ Friday article
“On Friday, Perry was back in his office in Corvallis after returning from a recruiting trip in northern California. He said he isn’t sure whether he will join Riley’s Nebraska staff.
“I don’t have any plans,” Perry said. “I’ll wait and see what Mike has to say when I get a chance to visit with him. You know Mike — he keeps everything close to the vest.”
For the last time. Tony Dungy will NOT be coaching anywhere. He was the first call when we hired Kill. They offered him an outrageous amount of money to return to his alma mater and rescue it from the abyss caused by the hiring of Tim Brewster. He has no interest in coaching again. He has a religious based charity he runs. Dungy has been a great fund raiser for the U of Minn. and has been helping out behind the scenes with our football program. He usually speaks to the team a couple of times a year and Kill makes the team read his books.
#9 Tony Dungy: Countdown to Gopher Football 2013 – YouTube
? 2:00? 2:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0gwkXXwM-M
Aug 20, 2013 – Uploaded by Minnesota Gophers
… career in the NFL, Tony Dungy was a star quarterback of the Minnesota Golden Gophers …
Hoke’s not coming….Corvallis does not have a CiCi”s…Midwest chain…all you can eat $5 pizza!
CiCi’s is so gross.
I know, I ate at one in Lincoln or maybe it was Council Bluffs…hard to remember as I spent the next day in restrooms.
Per Eggers, the decision of who to hire will be discussed Wednesday, after they announc the VFC renvoations. I trust Eggers sources more than pretty much anybody in the OSU media.
“On Wednesday, OSU officials will make an announcement regarding the $40-million renovation of the Valley Football Center, where the coaches’ offices, locker rooms, equipment rooms, meeting rooms and players’ lounge are housed. It’s going to happen and probably will be ready in time for the 2016 season. That’s a commitment the new coach will like to hear.
That same day, De Carolis, deputy AD Mark Massari, and a couple of inner-circle confidantes will convene to discuss candidates. From that list, a group of finalists will be identified. They will be interviewed and, as soon as early next week, a coach will be hired. ”
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/242955-107303-osu-must-pay-to-play-football?utm_source=New+Media&utm_medium=twitter
“You’ve heard names of many candidates for the vacant Oregon State job floated about in recent days, some of them more qualified than others. There are at least a couple of others who have expressed interest in the job who, to lack a better phrase, would knock your socks off.”
Kerry the tease.
DA must have called Kerry.
I guess the “absurdist” candidate(s) are real? Damn, give up names……I demand to know what 3 million could buy the Beavs.
They won’t knock my socks off because I don’t think Corvallis/OSU is a wasteland, but I wish it could knock Goe, Schnell, and half the staff of CSNNW (Jaynes et al) out of sports journalism…
Post of the year! I really hate those people.
Nice article by Eggers. I wish the rest of the Oregon media would strike a tone like this. Eggers- a staunch Riley supporter – pays appropriate homage to Riley for what he’s done for the program, and acknowledges the challenges to coaching in Corvallis.
But it’s presented factually and objectively and not sensationalized. No hand-wringing about the impossibility of replacing Riley and/or being successful in Corvallis. No fatalistic view about OSU’s inherent limitations. The vision to see that the right hire- under the right conditions – could very well take OSU further than Riley could.
There is alot more to Coach Hoke’s story then what the media is reporting. Michigan did not give him or Rich Rod enough time. What buried Hoke was egomaniac AD Dave Brandon with his meddling. The AD sat in on game film with all coordinators and wanted to live thru the coaches. He had no clue what he was walking into with that AD. I wish we would have given him another year. His boys are going to be fully matured on the 2 deep next season. He was transitioning the team back to the traditional way Michigan recruits the big uglies on the line and plays. The years of Rich Rod and the faster smaller type of players he recruited did not fit Michigans system and Rich was told he would have more time when he was hired. But everybody knows Rich was only given 3 years and he was booted. Brady walked into that mess and really had only three years of recruiting his guys back to his system. the first year did not count because he came in so late. He went 11 wins his first year because he had 15 Lloyd Carr recruited seniors built for his system that fought like hell for the team and him.
These are the twitter reactions from his players who loved him. Be sure to read the one from Shane Morris the quarterback who got the concussion that Brady honestly did not see. The AD hung him out to dry and did everything to try to undermine him including sending him out to a press conference without telling him his quarterback had a concussion so he would look like an asshole and the media smelled blood like a shark. The AD “resigned” to protect his future political dreams of becoming a politician. Brady is a people person and a good coach. He is a proven recruiter and the people that know him love him. once he is hired into a place and starts talking to boosters the money will open up for your program. Ball State and SVSU those programs were complete tire fires that needed overhauls. His biggest drawback has been loyalty to some assistants that should never have been brought to Michigan to coach. Hoke needs to have solid hires of his coordinators. If he comes to the Beavers one good thing you can expect is the Defensive side of your team will be way better than what you have ever had. He is a Defensive coach all the way and the offensive side of the ball to left to his coordinator and his staff.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/12/brady_hokes_firing_at_michigan.html
Thanks for the different perspective
Too much loyalty for underwhelming assistants…where have we heard that one before? Wonder if BDC could or would force his hand on the coordinator hires?
Thanks for the info.
He threw his OC under the bus after last season, got Nick Saban’s, and they got worse.
By all accounts he is a good guy, but he would be a downer hire at this point. So undoubtedly he will be our next coach.
Thanks for taking the time to give us the other side of the story. 5-7 at OSU gets you a huge promotion. 5-7 at Michigan gets your butt kicked out the door.
5-7 at Nebraska will do the same!
We know his D capabilities. He was hired away from OSU because his DL was spectacular in ’96.
I can’t remember who it was that hired him away….
I think Hoke was at OSU from 89-94. 1995 defense was incredible….gave up 237 points the entire season…of course they only scored 136!
You’re right… Mendenhall replaced Hoke in ’95.
Anybody have any information and views on BDC’s consultant in this process? From Eggers’ article:
“OSU administrators aren’t sitting on their hands. De Carolis has retained a consultant — Kevin Weiberg, the former commissioner of the Big 12 and deputy commissioner of the Pac-12 now working with Atlanta-based College Sports Solutions. He will help identify top-level candidates and advise on how best to make the hire. “
Bill Cowher?
Names like Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy would bring a lot of credibility and notoriety to OSU, but the fact that neither has actually coached for 6 or 7 years makes you wonder if they’ve still got the X’s and O’s.
I guess I’m a grump because those two have been out of it for so long that it wouldn’t knock my socks off plus do these left field hires ever work out?
On a smaller scale, Jerry Glanville to PSU was the same type of thing and it energized the alumni/fan base for a season or so and then when it became apparent he had no idea how to relate to 20 year olds anymore the whole thing collapsed.
I think Cowher COULD be productive and worth watching as a fan.
The key, I think, with somebody like him is if, while recognizing they haves nothing to lose and don’t need the money, still retain pride in their work and motivation. A unique person like that could have an absolute blast in the job and perform well. Someone like Cowher also likely knows how to delegate, freeing themselves up for the critical, and enjoyable, aspects of head coaching and player development.
That said I don’t expect Cowher. And I hope its not Dungy. He doesn’t strike me as that individual I just attempted to describe.
Cowher will replace Coughlin.
He will stay on TV.
Please just hire Scott Frost. Bottom line is Frost and Wells need to be interviewed. If a couple more also are fine.
You’re gonna have to change your screen name at some point, with all the Frost talk.
No… please don’t. No… that’s not the bottom line, but Wells is deserving of a look.
Norv Turner? Remember he’s a former Duck, and Assistant at USC. Kind of in the Riley mold…
Steve Preece and Bob Grim were special selection committee members for the decision to hire Riley in 2003. If they’re involved again, maybe we’re looking at more “experienced” candidates.
please no.
To me “knock your socks off” means it’s almost a given that they will do an outstanding job and galvanize the fan base which seems a little suspect if they’ve never been a college HC before? Logistics might disqualify a current NFL head coach. Man, what a brain twister…..I’m still saying Mike Shanahan, he’s not as old as I thought he was.
Jon Gruden
Gruden or Cowher would be killer but they enjoy fame too much methinks.
Blitz is not a bad read right now. They are actually bashing Schnell (not sure if that’s some of you guys from here migrating there). Big time. Also bashing The Oregonian and Goe.
i’ve been infiltrating and dropping huge bombs over there. my next hit piece is about machado herself.
No wonder it’s pretty good reading over there!
my inside source is telling me BDC has reached out to Paul Wulff
She’s a tranny?
I think it was Hemsley, but to whomever sent a nice donation to AB this morning thank you. Appreciate that. We don’t technically need them right now as hosting is paid for a few years, but it does make the work feel appreciated.
Hoke has arm hair curtains.
source?
Rob Lowe
Apparently I got myself banned from reading or following John Canzano’s tweets. (didn’t know that was possible?)
anyway, somebody replying to him about DE. Are people really thinking OSU would go after Erickson again?
Coaches Hot Seat ?@CoachesHotSeat
@johncanzanobft Dennis Erickson back to Oregon State? The people at OSU aren’t that stupid are they? Hire a young coach with passion!
This is what I get, LOL
“You are blocked from following @johncanzanobft and viewing @johncanzanobft’s Tweets. “
Canzano is a thin skinned pussy
The strange thing is, I don’t think I’ve ever been intentionally nasty towards anybody on Twitter. Maybe a little critical, but nothing malicious. I think your theory is the only possible explanation.
he’s also a POS who left his wife and kids high and dry for Anna Song. So in addition to being a thin skinned pussy and an all around great guy, he’s also an expert on moral authority
Woh…I can’t believe a woman has sex with Canzano.
Did he really? I wasn’t aware he had a family before he married her. Source?
you won’t find it as the thin skinned pussy has cleverly managed to keep his life private. But he’s got no problem outing someone else’s private bidness. But it is 100% true. He’s an even bigger ass than you’d think. I have no axe to grind with him. Just think he’s 100% douchebag
“cuntzano”, as i like to call him
just make another twitter account to rail against him. keep blocking. we’ll keep making new ones
So assuming BDC makes a good, exciting hire; how many here are considering donating to OSU Athletics as a result?
Second, if one is not a rich, but comfortable, what is a meaningful range to donate to OSU athletics?
And here I was going to walk away from college football in 2015….
I’d get season tickets, but the cheap ones with a small donation. I had season tickets 3 or 4 years ago but with interest so low it is way cheaper to just buy single games and get freebies from people not wanting to make the drive to see a crummy product. I’d buy season tix next year with a good hire just to show support even though I imagine single game tickets will still be cheaper.
I’m down for the “ean” plan. Similar situation to mine.
With a good hire I would definitely donate and look to get season tickets either next year or the following.
The past few years it just hasn’t been worth it to watch a Riley team. No consistency.
I’m definitely going to donate. Not sure how much yet.
Bruce Feldman @BruceFeldmanCFB · 4m 4 minutes ago
#Oregon OC Scott Frost & #UtahState coach Matt Wells among those getting consideration for #Tulsa job, per source. TU has some good options.
HireMattWells is going to go ballistic if BDC losses out to a conference AAC bottom feeder!
He’ll join a Tulsa board and post as “YouHiredMikeWells.”
You mean when.
These are THE two main guys Oregon State should be targeting. Frost would be awesome and Wells is solid. Both could be here for years building a top tier Pac-12 program if the right resources are provided. How is BDC screwing the pooch on this while Tulsa is zoned in like a Poseidon missile???? WTF???
Please do not harm any children or small pets.
As an ex Navy man, I applaud your analogy.
Candidates really can’t be announced until the week is up, state rules. The only coach really named so far, Hoke, was likely named by said coach’s own agent. Oklahoma doesn’t have such rules, so we know who they’re looking at. We’re looking at Frost and Wells, I guarantee it.
That’s the most logical, wonderful, beautiful thing anyone’s said all week. Thank you!
Ugh.
I want my “hip hip hooray” socks knocked off! Give me…
http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/2e/4c/2e4c57_274073.jpg
Did you see my comment above? Hoke’s voice is a deadringer for Farley’s “motivational speaker” character.
ha ha
OSU is still selling the socks. Wonder if I should stock up? Maybe they will go on sale soon?
http://www.osubeaversshop.com/gdosu36111310.html
FTD socks?
I actually love those socks to be honest, might pick up a couple pairs before they go away. Excellent to pair with my OSU ugly sweater, got a couple of those parties coming up.
Get’em in “Husker red” soon.
While this site is critical of all OSU athletics, and not just down on Riley, it will be interesting to track Riley and staff and Nebraska and see what develops there. The UO/Nebraska game in ’16 will demonstrate if Banker can do something about the Duck’s offense with more highly ranked recruits.
Ironically, they could add a “new coaching staff” surcharge on socks and t-shirts before they go. Socks: $15.99. Surcharge: $[?].
Don’t hurry, they’ll all end up at Goodwill next month.
Just gave for the first time in a while… With a message about the excitement for the long overdue football head coaching change.. seems like you can select “Other: and give what ever amount you want:
https://www.ourbeavernation.com/donation/
The more we give the more incentive BDC ET al have to realize there is a truly passionate base who will step up for the right guy.
Greg Roman has never coached in college, has he?
Nope. And speaking of the 49ers, how about Eric Mangini?
Mangina?
Mark Mangino.
ate Eric Mangina?
As an appetizer.
all you can eat buffet contest between Mark Mangino, Charlie Weiss, Rex Ryan and Lindsay. who wins?
wasn’t Mangini DA’s coach?
yeah he was but I’d be surprised if they speak much
I’m still not feeling “knock your socks off” with any of those names. I wonder why Eggers wouldn’t just come out and say? Off the record stuff?
A guy I work with, who knows Eggers, just told me he’s seen Mack Brown’s name rumored. I’m not saying he got that from Eggers, but just found it interesting since I can’t find any mention of his name connected to Oregon State over the past week in the google machine.
Not somebody I’d be interested at this point in his career, but I could see how that could be considered a “socks off” name to some.
I was actually talking to my buddy this morning and said… what about Mack Brown? That would be totally “absurd” and unexpected.
I really don’t know how I would like it, but I’m sure he would get a good staff on board with him.
That would be “absurd” in the most negative of connotations.
If BDC is considering Hoke and Brown, the search criteria must be as follows:
1) Failed with all the advantages of:
a) Program history;
b) Exposure
c) Money; and
d) Recruiting.
LOL. No shit.
Mack Brown? Seriously? Dude is a walking corpse. Why hire someone you’re gonna have to replace in 2 years because he’s dead? No! Just no!
Looks like my coworker probably saw it on Eggers twitter feed. I missed this
kerry eggers ?@kerryeggers 36m36 minutes ago
63 years old and happy in retirement (I think) RT @dr_crawf: I really like the thought of Mack Brown to the Beavs.
Remember though the original rumor was they had “no college head coaching experience”.
Only guy I would take before Frost is Jim Harbaugh or that level of coach. Seriously think BDC is about to screw up this rare opportunity for a great coach. Ugh…
I really don’t think he screws this one up. Sounds like they have plenty of candidates. I bet that leak of Frost/Wells talking to Tulsa is just to gas themselves up. Seems like an agent move to me to get them some more money.
I would love that but for some reason I think BDC is ignoring the obvious.
Yeah, it’s really tough to put confidence in BDC. Here’s hoping Massari is doing most of the work and decision making since he will likely be the one inheriting it.
This will be BDC’s legacy. He has to know that unless he truly has gone senile. I don’t think he can afford to screw this up for his own sake.
-asdf123456 from the Blowegonian.
Why does Oregon have this 7 day law, btw? Why can’t they just hire who they want now?
I think that law applies to any state gov job here
The law applies to all public jobs I think. Not just football. State public universities have to comply for all job openings.
also have to interview at least one minority candidate. Idk if that’s state or federal law though
State also I believe
But why?
Who are they trying to protect or what are they trying to accomplish with that? Why an arbitrary number like 7 days? Why not 6 or 8?
ask the dipshits up here who make stupid laws
They also have a seven day waiting period before someone else can pump your gas.
get a diesel. That law doesn’t apply
some politician probably wanted to point to some piece of legislation that proves they are doing something.
It’s to ward off nepotism and the old boy’s club. The thought is that it gives anyone time to send in a resume and cover letter who might be interested. And more than just the direct supervisor gets to look at the pool of candidates and figure out who is qualified to be a finalist.
In the past it was quietly made known to friends and family that there was a job opening, and without proper vetting, friends and family would be the ones who got jobs.
There are 7 days in a week, dude. It’s not an arbitrary number.
I have heard similar policies. My company requires a job to be posted for a certain number of days, but I don’t know how many. A week seems reasonable. It’s supposed to give the perception that the hiring process is open to all potential candidates, even if they already know who they will hire. I think it gives people time to identify the opening and time to put your application in.
For a head coach at a Division 1 school it’s pretty silly.
So in other words, it’s a CYA farce
Hey Kerry, congrats. “Neat deal” has officially been replaced by “knock your socks off”.
Sad tweet from Peko, kid doesn’t realize Riley bears responsibility for the mishandling of his situation. Or, maybe he does and knows it was his own fault, either way not much of a “life lesson” learned from his state of limbo for so long.
Kyle The Creator @kyle_peko65 · Dec 4
Best of luck @Coach_Riley it has been an honor to have had a year with a legend!
and:
Kyle The Creator @kyle_peko65 · Dec 4
Wow I’m a little speechless. Doesn’t look to good for me now…
If I didn’t know better, I would have thought Peko’s twitter feed got hijacked by the guy doing the Fake Mike Riley and Fake Bob Decarolis accounts.
Watch this tool get admitted to Neb and become Donkey Kong Suh part II.
actually he can’t. Peko has one year of eligibility left so he cannot transfer and play at another school.
I don’t know, seems like a pretty good “life lesson,” if not a particularly positive and supportive one.
My take:
1) If Peko didn’t do what was required and was given multiple second chances, the lesson is not good and reinforces an attitude that “the requirements don’t really apply to me”
2) If Peko did everything asked of him, then the “legend” that is Riley failed him and failed to teach that the “buck does stop” at the top. That is, Riley led the organization which ask Peko to do the wrong things, things which did not get him eligible even though Peko had done as told.
my take is not only is Peko extremely lazy, but……………I’d say he’s dumb as a brick but that would be insulting to bricks
Where does Peko get the money to have someone write his tweets for him?
Floyd Mayweather Jr writes his tweets
LMFAO!
http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/lou-holtz-gibberish-clip-vined-with-the-waterboys-farmer-fran-video
Kirby Smart personality. Seems good. Think I want this guy more than anyone being mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nzxWUvjm7c
Seems like a smart/genuine guy. I like that he can form coherent sentences too!
I’m just nodding my head watching this…he thinks exactly like me. I might have to create ZERO threads if OSU hires this guy.
and with recruiting, he could just walk into a kids living room and say….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nsn2jhHlGc
You would just have to change the name of the blog, no reason why positive discussion with pride in the coaching can’t take place!
I vote for nicebeavers. I just wouldn’t put that in a google search
Just noticed that Blitz threw a pic of Nussmeier up on the front page. Who is next? Tonight we’re going to see a pic of Tom Herman?
My inside source is saying Paul Wulff
has been contacted
Your inside source in a demented witch doctor who lives in a hut in Liberia.
shhhh. Ahem, I mean no it’s a reliable inside source
I see that Blitz also has a thread titled “Mike Holmgren”
Yes people are throwing things to walls and seeing if they stick.. Bear Bryant was also mentioned
That’s pretty good.
That makes no sense when Dee Andros grave is just down the street from the stadium. You have to think costs when discussing Beaver Football.
I’ll play devil’s advocate on Smart.
He’s in the Saban coaching tree, and he’s won multiple Assistant Coach awards since he took over as DC in 2008. The guy looks like he’d be an obvious candidate to any of the schools that have hired new coaches in the last five years. He’s already interviewed at Southern Miss, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and Auburn for HC gigs over the years, but didn’t get any of them.
Maybe he’s one of those lifetime assistants that just isn’t the head coach type. Some people do better in a more defined, supplemental role than they do being the head of an organization.
Reminds me of Charlie Strong. Long a candidate for jobs but for whatever reason never got jobs until he got the Louisville job and then became a big name thanks in part to Teddy Bridgewater. I think he’d do well if he got a head coaching job. Just needs the opportunity.
Our bonehead AD at Minnesota interviewed him and then hired a used car salesman.
Same thing happened to Charlie Strong. He has turned out OK.
We would be lucky to get him.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Eggers “knock your socks off” comment was his clever way of saying Rex Ryan has shown interest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjJnUsa2WyE
http://memecrunch.com/meme/35JI/rex-ryan-doesn-t-lose/image.jpg
Kirby Smart is my #1 choice as well. Great pedigree and the SEC to PAC background would bring an awesome hybrid approach in my opinion. Plus it would show that BDC and gang went the distance to provide us the best possible future successes.
My question is, what would he cost us?
He made $1.35 million this year. Highest paid DC in the country.
How often to SEC coaches willingly leave the SEC for another conference?
Didn’t Nussmeier leave Bama for Michigan???
Correct. Last year.
Bama did nothing to stop him. Saban and him were having issues.
Does someone have the access to tweet Eggers on the “knock your socks off candidates”?
Ive tried. He’s replies to my other questions but ignored that one
“Riley built an unprecedented foundation during his time in Corvallis. Now Oregon State football can be taken to greater heights with the right kind of leadership. That’s where Ray and De Carolis come in. They have to come to the table with an offer that will land the man to take the program to the next level.
I’m talking about Mike Leach money, plus market-value salaries for assistant coaches and a firm commitment to facilities and resources in the near future.
The reason is simple: If you want to be a player, be a payer.”
Kerry Eggers has that answer right here…
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/242955-107303-osu-must-pay-to-play-football?utm_source=New+Media&utm_medium=twitter
Seems doable seeing as OSU brings in almost $20M more in revenue than Wazzu. Leach is a ripoff.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/?fullsite=true
More of OSU’s money comes from the rest of the university though. Not sure if that makes a big difference in this case.
Eggers also touches on the idea of Pres. Ray using some of the $1 Billion from fundraising to go towards INVESTING it back into the university via football as it is beneficial to the university to have a successful football program so the university as whole succeeds since it’s the sole money maker for the Athletic Department.
Bad idea. Keep that money for academics. The university already subsidizes the athletic department anyways.
Read the article, 165 mil is dedicated by the donors to sports. While I tend to agree society spends too much on sports if we go cheap on a coach I think it will lead to bigger losses in ticket revenue.
Eggers’ interview with Pres Ed Ray
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/243053-110105-osus-ed-ray-i-want-us-to-get-to-the-next-level
I take encouragement from SOME of what Ray had to say, especially “major bowls” and a recognition (impliedly) that to be competitive OSU will have spend more on coaching and facilities.
Semi-big donor (100k a year) that golfs with my father will be in Corvallis on Weds or Thur to meet with Ed Ray. Not sure if it’s a private or general meeting. May not even be about the coaching search, but seems likely.
Could be Jonathan smith? Or a coach that feels that the university doesn’t take things seriously enough for them or they’ve been burned before…the coaches want to see action of facility improvements and also commitments to assuring that they will be backed up by donors first rather than wait until there is success. Leap frog us into success through the donors rather than leap frog donations because of success. It’s changing the mindset of beaver nation in regards to donations…I’d bet the 18,000 by 2018 would work with the right hire?
Damn, Ducks seem to be having a dream sort of season. A birth to the first playoff and likely Heisman winner in Mariota.
Seems like the gap between schools has never been wider. whoever we hire as coach will have some serious ground to make up in order to be competitive.
I’ve hated the Ducks my entire life, but unlike past seasons, I’ll be rooting FOR them against FSU, but only because I hate FSU.
The other factor is that having watched the kid now and reading about him for a few seasons, I think Mariota is deserving of the Heisman, and he’s the first Duck I can remember not outwardly hating. Seems like a really great kid actually.
I say this because it got me thinking about how far apart we seem right now. A year ago, all I wanted was Craig Robinson fired, along with Mark Banker. Now both are gone, with Riley, Cav, and others including Bray as well.
I don’t know if its a “be careful what you wish for” scenario. I see Tinkle being a good hire and I hope we can nail the football coach as well. But, I feel we have lost some substantial continuity that seemed to be one of our strongest points as a program over the last few years.
With Riley, you knew we would mostly be competitive, bowl in most years, and every couple we would have a special season. With whoever we hire, what if we get a Brady Hoke or Muschamp situation that fizzles in a few years?
Hit the reset button again? I’m not sure I like the sounds of that, but it is likely we will be looking for another coach in 3-5 seasons, regardless of who is hired.
sure Riley was giving us 6 and 6 seasons but that become the standard the last few year in outside of the Alamo bowl year we were having losing season to me his time was done and he was done with the beavers. Because with a senior leaded team he could not do better the 5-7
Yeah and the wins were mostly non-pac12 teams. The real record you need to look at is the pac-12 record… crap,,, we finished 10 of 12 teams.
The “continuity” can be a blessing or a curse. In Riley’s case it became a curse. The program became stagnant and consistently bad. I think Riley kind of sucked us into that “Joe Pa” mentality.
I also don’t feel getting a new coach every 5 seasons as necessarily a bad thing. Times change, programs evolve, and so does the college football landscape. It goes with the business.
With that, there is something to be said for liking continuity. I like it as well, I do see your point.
no, what I think happened is that BDC got sucked into the attractiveness of the “home town discount” that Riley offered not realizing (until perhaps last week) that it was a classic Faustian bargain.
not me. Fuck oregon and that evil empire cesspool it has become. They should change the name to the University of Win at all costs. And their born on third base and think they hit a triple band waggoning fans can eat a bag of shit too. I’m tired of hearing about them
I regret that I have but one upvote to give for that comment
but at the same time I cannot in good conscience root for Rapist “fuck her right in the pussy” Winston and FSU. And I also have tOSU in my list of top 5 most hated teams. And Bama is the team I hate the least, but they’re SEC so they can still tongue punch my fart box. So I’m gonna do what’s best for me. Not watch the Rose or Sugar bowls and skip the national championship game as well. Fuck them all. Rest of the bowl games I’ll gladly watch. Which is probably more people watching some of the games than show up in the stands.
With Riley, “mostly competitive” was true early on, but gone years ago. So dont feel bad him leaving. If we get a guy who can even just be early Riley, we are way better off than with the zombie Riley. And since the donors have responded and clearly want better, I think its clear we now have higher expectations. I think its a good bet we start doing better, whoever is hired. Sure, it could get worse, but not likely. Quit worring about rolling the dice — we are damn lucky we have this opportunity! …and not zombie Riley until 2021…. THANK YOU, NEBRASKA!!
On the radio just now, Yogi Roth is saying as far as candidates we should be hearing about for this coaching search, he thinks Trent Dilfer is a name we’ll see talked about soon. Also thought Frost and Deruyter were good candidates as well as Baldwin.
Dilfer is an awesome dude. No idea if he can coach…
No Baldwin. Can’t have all this talk of taking the next step and then hire a d2 coach.
I agree that he’s a good guy. But he’s never coached before. That’s a major non-plus to me. Could he recruit? I’m sure he could. I think getting an actual coach is paramount with the money that will be spent.
It is paramount to get this right. Donors opening their wallets for the first time in a while…if things go wrong they might get traumatized and not try again. Big decision, and BDC in charge of it…iffy. I agree his past few hires look pretty good, but overall he’s been bad. The Riley deal especially
Dilfer…..LOL.
I know right? Worst QB ever to win a SB ring.
No doubt. Now the expert of all experts on QB play.
Yogi Roth is sniffing glue. Trent Dilfer, goddam that’s weak.
Thank you Yogi Roth for more beating of the Scott Frost drum. Would love that hire on so many levels.
Who the fuck is Yogi Roth?
Overall that Ed Ray article is positive. Now they need to walk the walk.
That was good to read. He knows they’re going to need to pay. I also liked the part about giving a bonus for beating the ducks.
I emailed Ed Ray and specifically included the beating the Ducks clause and general contract structuring recommendations. He replied back and said contract terms were very important to get right and Bob “was on point on this one”. Not sure if that makes anyone feel better.
I think it’s great that he even emailed you back! Good for him, and good for you on sending a constructive email. Nice!
from blitz: “Meetings continuing tonight and tomorrow with donors. There is big excitement among the major donors. The. 1.5-1.7 millon dollar a year budget won’t come close to getting the 2 candidates being discussed at meetings today. One candidate would be MUCH more of a surprise then the other but both would be national names that have had major head coaching jobs in the past. The momentuim seems to be there from everyone involved to stop being a 2nd class citizen in our league and in our state. Exciting times to be a Beaver”
Sounds like one is Del Rio, which is terrible.
Del Rio is like one tick above Hoke but twice the price.
We should pay by the pound.
If one of those two is Lame Kiffin I’m gonna fire bomb BDC’s office
I would say Del Rio and Harbaugh based on this information.
A “source with knowledge of the hiring process” is quoted in this Oregonian article as saying that OSU’s looking at Beau Baldwin…
I’m still hoping that Frost is the #1 choice.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/12/oregon_state_beavers_looking_a.html#incart_river
I’m sure he’s on the radar, but he really doesn’t fit with the idea of getting a big home run guy that would necessitate the big donors being on board.
Yeah extra money to get Baldwin would be very underwhelming. I still got Scott Frost #1 and have added Kirby Smart in at #2. Both would be fantastic hires with big upside. Wells I moved back to #3. Want all three to get interviews.
It can’t be Baldwin. He’s out. (a) doesn’t fit anything we’re hearing and (b) don’t need extra money to get him. If anything he’d probably be under the 1.5 salary cap. Really think we’d need donors involved for Baldwin?
Good logic Angry!
I am just tired of the Oregonian agenda and their advancing of lame candidates in their articles. Where are the Frost, Smart or Wells mentions from them that many of the fans are actually excited by? Instead we get Hoke, Tedford and Baldwin. Lame.
Hey, maybe they are all in love with the Ducks and dont want OSU to become any real challenger.
Hearing rumor that Hayden Fox and his staff of Luther and Dauber are interested in the job. Their AD has not been contacted by Bob D yet though.
http://www.ourhonordefend.com/wp-content/uploads/coach-fox-luther-dauber.jpg
LOL
OSU player just tweeted “OSU swinging for the fences”
https://twitter.com/hollingsworthlj
Guy on Blitz talking about all this said, “Also logic doesn’t make sense on one of the candidates. I have no idea why he would be interested in OSU and not Michigan etc. I asked the same question”….
It can’t be Harbaugh, right?
I think it might be. I got an email from a guy 2 minutes ago that said Harbaugh’s agent has inquired about the job. And god knows they wouldn’t be using “OSU speculation” for any sort of leverage against any other team.
I can’t believe that. Harbaugh must be playing OSU for leverage? Unless he really liked being in the conference…
His son was/is a grad assistant there, so maybe he likes the school? I’m grasping at straws…
I know right? Who could you be playing OSU against for leverage? No school if you ask me. The other team would probably laugh. Everybody thinks OSU is broke.
I think he likes college ball. SF is a dumpster fire with all the personnel shit he has to deal with. At Michigan he’d be expected to win national championship pronto. No one thinks that OSU is competing for a national championship year in and year out. Not saying he’s not competitive, I know he is. But the bullshit he’d have to put up with at Michigan is 100x worse than he’d ever face at OSU.
Using OSU as leverage vs the Raiders? Makes no sense…
Harbaugh. Yes, please!!! Would love to see him down Helfrich next year in Eugene. That would be worth a 3.2 million dollar salary + Duck win bonus IMO. Hope these donors are willing to give it a try!
He is friends with Riley, but you would think Riley would be badmouthing OSU to him right now given what happened. Unless what we think happened didn’t really happen and Riley did leave on very good terms. Shit,this is all so confusing.
Any chance Harbaugh might be (allegedly) considering OSU as some sort of paternal attempt to get his son a job as an OC in college? I mean, is it plausible that Jim would come to OSU, install his son Jay as the OC, and hope that he could right the ship in 3-5 years, then move on to another gig and leave Jay behind as the heir apparent HC? Seems such a long shot, but there is a (weak) OSU connection through Jay…
http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_26279169/jim-harbaughs-son-forges-own-path
From the sounds of it Harbaugh would love to be the one that bails on the 49ers instead of the other way around.
Could it be that harbaugh misses recruiting? Also, he won’t have to find players that are 3.4 students and higher to get into OSU. We know he can recruit and he has nfl experience now…hmmm so many options for good solid coaches out there…also, could the ‘3 weeks’ pitch be for those playing New Years day bowls?!
One of my thoughts was also Harbaugh, but reading stuff out there now it just does not seem plausible. I don’t doubt though that he’s probably crazy enough to think he can take down the Ducks in 2 or 3 years. It’s probably a pipe dream, but it would not surprise me if that was the “absurb” name.
Would current players even know the names of candidates at this juncture? What did they do, have the entire team sign NDA’s? Hollingsworth is grasping for straws too.
I agree. Luke is probably playing the roll of a hopeful fan right now like us. He previously linked eggers article about spending money. Probably just excited since he knows he’s stuck here with whatever the outcome is.
Got inside info from a graduating senior as to what happened with Riley leaving…
Supposedly Friday after the civil war loss Decarolis called Riley into his office and told him all the old blood must go (Semalu, Banker, Read. and Cav). Riley told him that he’d think about it, and left for California for recruiting.
Riley then “bumped” into a rep from Nebraska in Cali who offered him the job… Riley accepted pretty much on the spot.
So there is that.
I have a hard time believing BDC would insist on all of the assistants going.
So do I, but this is what I was told.
Banker and Reed are lucky to know Mike Riley.
Regarding Harbaugh, he obviously has been a college HC. That original rumor was….never a college HC.
Eggers “tease” could be different from the shit going around on The Blitz.
New thread up.