As I mentioned in the comment section of the prior thread, the big takeaway for me was that the Beavs finally beat a starting Pac-12 QB. Tate is a legit starter, and their backup (who seemed to have played most of the game) is even better.
I see people complaining about the yardage given up and the point total. The yards are consistent with the “bend but don’t break” style we’ve seen all year. The points are high, but when you score 56 usually you do that quickly, so to have a thin D coming back out so often is bound to result in some failure. Refs cost the Beavs 7. So all in all, about what you’d expect. They did enough, and that’s all that matters.
That was the best win by far. Beating a starting QB, road win in a warm, dry climate, and just dominating (granted a very week defense) on offense.
I don’t see another win this year. People are saying ASU and WSU…eh. That seems like emotion and people getting ahead of themselves. That ASU QB is good. WSU will short pass us to death. That would be incredible if we get to 6 wins (we should be at 6 were it not for Smith’s coaching blunders…). But even if we end here at 4 wins you can see with the guys returning from injury next year, a QB upgrade in Gebbia, future stars like Lindsey catching on, etc there’s finally a reason to be excited. Hodgins with the injury scare yesterday might seal his fate to the NFL. He’s not going to want to mess around unless he really loves OSU and takes out a large insurance policy.
Been waiting to ask but do we see more wr screen implemented with Bradford back? We have 4 guys who should be able to do damage (Bradford, Flemings, Lindsay, Irish) with a bit of space and we know Noah can plaster a safety. With teams focusing on jj, AP and hodgins it seems like a no brainier to line up hodgins on the weak side, back on the weak side and do noah on the line strong side with two wideouts.
It’s a wrinkle that we are not using much that should be great for us personnel wise.
Angry – you are right on with the defensive yardage. The yardage they are giving up isn’t bad yardage. There’s a difference between an 80 yard drive on 8 plays for a fg and a 2 play 80 yard pass. The middle of the field is easy yardage but once they get in field goal range we are pretty solid. Not sure what our redzone stats are but it’s gotta be the best in 6 years. I see us going 1-3 at the end of the year, no idea who the win is I just think we are playing gritty and have weapons.
SP+ rankings say we have a 24% chance to make a bowl game this year
That seems high. ABs, feel free to make a case for beating ASU or WSU, who it seems most here think are the best shots…
That ASU QB looked really fast/good when I saw him, and WSU’s short, efficient passing game will kill us. I used to think we had a shot against Oregon, but Herbert picked things up since then, and Verdell is too fast. Their D isn’t as good as it looks, so there’s that. Washington I just hate the matchup. Some like it. Again, make your case. I did see Washington get really beaten up yesterday with like 6 injuries, so maybe that’s why? I’m all ears — I’d like to figure out a way to fool myself we can win two more to make these final games more exciting.
ASU has lost 5 of its last 6 in Corvallis. They did win here in 2017, 40-24
ASU comes off of what could be a very physical game vs a pissed off SC and have one less day to prepare than the Beavs; couple that with travel time and possible weather factors…….all reasons to think the Beavs have a shot, a good shot.
Caveat: Beavs need to escape UW game without significant injuries,.
I told my wife 20% when she asked on Saturday morning. With the win over Arizona, 24% sounds about right.
I didn’t double-check this stat, but I thought I heard that Arizona ran for over 900 YARDS the previous two contests against the Beavs. I would say yesterday was a noticeable improvement for the D.
Also, note that the defense came up big at the end of the first half with the sacks that changed the trajectory of the game. The team has been able to exploit two weak defenses in UCLA and Zona by outscoring them. Nothing wrong with that.
My main concern is how long will the ball security last? These are heady times for the offense and how well they take care of the rock. I believe the record for fewest turnovers in an FBS season is 5, they are ahead of that pace. TO margin decides many a team W/L record. We can’t count on >5 turnovers every season, the defense will need to get much better for sustained improvement.
I couldn’t believe when they said we’re the only NCAA team not to have lost a fumble. That’s gotta be more than luck and on the coaching. Smith cost us a few wins, but if he’s that good at teaching ball security, he might have saved us a few losses. He’s gotta figure out how to do both.
I think TO margin gets overlooked. Jacquizz was an incredible back, but he also fumbled once his entire career. Nall was a great back, but a fumble caused the team to lose a momentum building game against a Top 25 team. I’m a little concerned because stats usually return to the norm. It’s a fluke-ish year because the offense doesn’t turn it over, but the defense doesn’t create any turnovers either.
From what I could find, there has only been one team to finish with a losing record that had ten or fewer turnovers in a season. Pitt had a 6-7 season a few years back with only 10 (they must have lost their bowl game).
“the defense doesn’t create any turnovers either”
I keep waiting for the time spent in the opponents backfield to create hurried throws which lead to interceptions. And as we see more gang tackling there should be fumbles to recover.
I agree, regression to the mean says we’ll lose the ball at a higher rate in the next month; hopefully the same applies to the D creating turnovers to the Beavs advantage.
Turnovers often have a big, immediate psychological effect. JS (and season long experience) has this squad prepared to handle those effects much better than previous teams.
I think the coaches are keeping things simple for the secondary. The safeties are not great at reading routes so they stay back and just make sure they are available to make the tackle. Corners are mostly in trail position reacting to the receiver. Simple way to play for guys who may not have the experience or talent to lock down receivers. Hopefully with the infusion of DBs in the next class and another year of growth and teaching for the young guys we will get interceptions and better coverage in the future. Only guys I have really seen having any nose for the ball are Wilson, Grant and Austin. Grant has two years to go and Austin is a true freshman. Might be decent blocks to build the secondary around, specially if they move to safety with all the big CBs coming in.
Nose for the ball? Isn’t that Morris’s middle name?
Understandable, but Morris looks like he has a ways to go to return to his freshmen year productivity.
Quote from Morris re: his foot injury.
“We’ve kind of gotten to a point where my foot’s going to be like forever messed up and I’m going to have pain no matter what,” Morris said last Wednesday, a few days after getting the start in a 21-17 win at California.
“It’s definitely manageable,” he added. “I had adrenaline, too, so I wasn’t really too focused on it. After we won and I settled down that’s when I was like OK I feel it.”
I can’t totally agree on the coaching staff costing us two wins. I think looming back the way the Hawaii game went provided some very good learning opportunities for players and coaches. Had those not occurred I’m not convinced we pull out the cal game or are willing to start out the ucla game aggressively. We will never truly know but sometimes moments like losing games you realize you should have won helps you believe you can win any game. It seems like they have that mind set right now. Or maybe that’s just me being a delirious fan!
No that’s fair.
We’ll never know alternative outcomes. My point is he made novice mistakes. Seasoned coaches and top 10 coaches would not be doing what he did in those games. Now whether they all learned from it and that’s why we won other games is a fair alternative universe question to ponder. I’d rather learn those lessons while an OC at Washington, get things right the first time, and then take your chances down the road that you can get it right again, and that’s why I think him making errors cost us two wins, but I get that people might have your view of learning, etc.
“…you can see with the guys returning from injury next year…a reason to be excited”
Gumbs and Reichner alone will improve the D; add in (non-injury related) Colletto in whatever role.
I wouldn’t count on Reichner, poor guy. Too many knee injuries.
Need to land those 3(?) JC DTs.
I think we get one more win. Best bet is ASU.
I think it’s more likely we get zero more wins than two.
Would have been nice to beat Stanford and/or Hawaii, but I think it’s pretty typical to lose games you think you should have won when going through a major rebuild. If I remember correctly there were three of those in Riley’s five win season the year before Erickson arrived.
Agree, it’s more likely we see zero wins than two.
Note that the Beavs get an extra day to prepare for ASU, now if that Friday game vs UW doesn’t result in injuries that extra day is all game prep/scheming. Another reason to guess ASU is the best bet for a Beavs win.
Now, if Bradford is only gonna play in three more games, which one does he sit??? No way he misses the CW, right? Can’t hold him out of a home game vs UW, right?? hmmmm.
I was surprised to see Bradford out there yesterday from a strategic standpoint. He’s going to sit against a tougher team now.
Edit- Smith sounded vague when asked about what game Bradford would red-shirt. Maybe he’s not going to now?
If the beavers aren’t favored to beat asu I would be shocked. ASU ain’t stopping this team with this kind of momentum, especially if they lose to usc next week. If temps are in the 30s at game time I would almost guarantee the beavs win that game.
Wannabeav recently said weather could make the ASU game a “lock” for the Beavs.
I’ll buy that, after all he’s the one with the yacht and all.
His yacht can make it that far down the Willamette?
Heh, heh. I think maybe the “yacht” fits in the bed of his mid-sized pickup!
ASU is certainly not an offensive powerhouse. I could see this game as close. Wazzu is interesting to me, can the Beavs outscore them on the road? I don’t know anything about their OL. Will Hamilcar get in the backfield or just tire himself out with Gordon’s quick release? I mostly want to see the Beavs competitive in their last four games. Through eight games, I see six and a half as competitive. That’s a nice improvement. If they can keep it up, that might bode well for the future.
The only chance I see with WSU is if we can contain their run with 4 on the line. If we can constantly have 7 dbs and eliminate the big plays then the redzone gets tough for WSU as the field condenses. If we need more than 4 to contain rb/qb run were screwed
Max Borghi worries me. Even if they’re not pounding it up the middle he’s a safety valve and he always gets tough yards.
I can’t see WSU’s shit show defense holding the OSU offense down. Shootout, with turnovers deciding it.
The defense is going to have to limit “clown-mode” time when tackling against the Cougs. In space, tackling will need to happen.
Borghi’s a great compliment in that offense. Doesn’t quit either.
Beavs jump up from 70th to 59th in SP+ rankings. We’re in the top half! Offense is up to #22. D is still down at #102.
Washington is #17
Wazzu is #24
ASU is #44
They added a note about us:
* Oregon State’s thumping of Arizona moved the Beavers to 4-4 overall and 59th in SP+. They were 111th last year. We probably haven’t talked enough about the job Jonathan Smith has done in Corvallis this year.
Great recognition for Smith. We’re about to hit the hardest part of the schedule so we’ll see how they fair against big boys.
I will be impressed if the Beavs put up more than 10 points on Friday. A victory against UW is not possible with this team.
They have a reasonable shot at getting to 6 wins, particularly if Wazzu loses their next two games vs Cal and Stanford. That team will implode.
Washington laid an egg vs Stanford, and also has that head-scratching loss to Cal. They win their games in the first quarter, where they have a 104-13 advantage (and a 210-192 edge the rest of the way). They led Stanford 7-3 after 1, and they were scoreless after 1 against Cal. We should know early on if we’ve got a shot.
A win is not likely. But this impossible shit is ridiculous. Everything is possible. We knock 3 QB out and play 11 in the box and win 10to 9
Play 11 in the box OSU still loses because there’s not enough depth at the D-Line or safety position to match UW’s depth at TE.
I’ve never heard of not having enough depth to match up at tight end. It’s not like they would be rotating them or even putting in a 3rd safety.
I think wins v. ASU and @ WSU are possible because:
1) Primarily, Pierce and Jefferson, and when needed Baylor. I understand AZ has a terrible D, but these two are so consistently productive and Pierce is often one block or tackle away from a big run. Unless ASU or WSU have lock down run D, the Beavs can put up points on both teams, and slow down the WSU short passing game. Look at Pierce with that 25 yard run in the second quarter, key third down run in previous games…Baylor’s TD run where he rolled over the tackler. These three don’t quit and haven’t been consistently stopped.
2) I give Lindgren’s playcalling the edge in the coaching matchups. I think he’s got more plays to use with Bradford back and Lindsey emerging. I’d still like to see something special for Musgrave at the right time, with everyone else focusing on starters like Hodgins, Jefferson, Pierce, maybe Bradford. I think Musgrave presents an easy TD or key first down. I still don’t trust Togiai’s hands either.
2) WSU is on the road. OSU is doing well on the road and WSU’s season has kind of gone off the rails despite their new QB’s production and efficiency. They indicates other problems. I’ve only seen their meltdown against UCLA and part of one other loss.
I admit, I haven’t watched ASU. But its time for a home win and I don’t see them stopping the offense.
Willie “the fraud” Taggart fired by Florida St
Guess they don’t like the taste of snake oil.
Wow, 17 million buy out? Did I hear that right?
Lol.
Mario should be next once Herbert is gone.
Mario should have three loses, but both the Huskies and Cougs “couged it”, so now we get to hear the national media pimp for Oregon to be in the playoff conversation for the next four weeks.
I know. He’s been so terrible every time I watch him, yet he’s getting by (for now).
I was a little surprised to hear the announcers mention Mario’s clock management issues a couple of times last night while the USC game was still in doubt.
He’s a Florida guy. Maybe FSU will poach him.
Hilarious. “Took” 3 teams to bowl games, never coached in a bowl game because he was off to the next sucker. Now fired, no bowl game for FSU under him.
What a joke. I still can’t believe Canzano loved him.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/11/03/fsu-football-willie-taggart-fired-second-season/4150435002/
“You are soon going to change your present line of work
Luck number 17,000,000”
Thoughts on the rest of the schedule:
UW- Huskies have multiple injuries after Utah and a short week to prep for the OSU offense. If the Oline keeps UW out of the backfield, UW has a lot of younger guys on the dline, Beavs may score enough to win. UW oline is a very experienced group but they lack game changers on offense, meh running backs. The qb has been good to great but can be inconsistent under pressure: cue Hamilcar for the win. 31-28 Beavs win
ASU- OSU wins against ASU because of weather and ASU can’t match td for td on offense. ASU is a slightly better version of UA, with a gift win a MSU from pac12 refs. Give a confident OSU team the advantage at home 38-21 Beavs win
WSU- Leach has lost the magic and it will be off the rails by gametime. WSU has problems on the defensive side and are very undersized. Beavs will push them all over the field on offense. WSU will have success throwing but they will bog down in the red zone as Beavs play conservative and give up few long plays. 42-28 Beavs win
UO- Crystal Ball will be feeling all of the pressure going into this game. Beavs will be playing with house money and show up loose. Rasheed gets 3-4 sacks on Herbert. JS has had CW circled all season and prepares with old time BSU trick plays since September. In a tight game UO chokes and Beavs stick in the dagger for a trick play filled CW victory for the ages. 31-28 Beavs win
Why not? This season has been interesting.
Gonna dream – might as well dream big!
Yeah. How are they beating Utah in the Pac Championship game?!?
Flee flickers all day!
Ummmm….score more points?
I tend to swing wildly in my fandom for the Beavs. I’ll be overly optimistic prior to the season starting, deeply frustrated as they implode, wildly optimistic if they show signs of improvement. I am currently planted firmly in the signs of improvement category, hence the high hopes for a miracle finish. It would be my dream scenario, Beavs deliver a knockout blow in Autzen as the payback for 2008 and end the ducks championship dreams. Allow me a few days to hope before piling on too much. I’ve followed the beavs since the Tim Alexander days. I know the drill, but I still want to see them deliver a beautiful run and end the ducks dreams.
I thought you were joking, but it’s actually pretty charming you’re that optimistic.
I realize I’m only optimistic until the 2nd or 3rd series Friday night, then the predictable thud back down to earth will occur. But I want to break the noxious hold of MR/GA fan ptsd. Maybe JS is really a different kind of coach surrounded by different caliber of coaches and the players are really improving week to week.
Maybe. I was high on JS until Hawaii and Stanford.
Then I was neutral to negative. Now I’m seeing clear improvements, which ironically came as he got more of the correct personnel on the field. I’m back to viewing him positively.
I like crack too.
Haha
“In a tight game UO chokes and Beavs stick in the dagger for a trick play filled CW victory for the ages. 31-28 Beavs win”
Am I the only one who thinks that in a 3pt CW there is no way the PAC12 zebras let Beavs end up on top?
In that game particularly, success is only likely if the difference is enough to keep it out of the officials hands; say 12+ points.
Beavs are 11 point underdogs for the UW game. With the over under set at 63 they are expecting a 37-26 game. That’s some respect because I was thinking it would be about a 14 point line.
Already did the work so heres the rushing defense update. One of JJ Taylors worst games of the year.
2018:
1) Mike Weber – 186 yds 3 TDs. Next best 104 yds 1 td (Michigan State)
2) James Fellia – 51 yds…260 yds on the whole season
3) Toa Taua – 81 yds 1 TD. 5th best performance in 2018
4) JJ Taylor – 284 yds 2 TD. Next best 212 yds 2 tds (Oregon) and 192 yds 0 tds (Colorado)
5) Eno Benjamin – 312 yds 3 TD. Next best 185 yds 2 Td (USC)
6) James Williams – 56 yds (78 receiving 1 td). 2nd best of the season.
7) Patrick Laird – 193 yds 2 TD. Next best 116 yd (Stanford)
8) Travon McMillian – 132 yd 1 TD. 3rd best of the seaon (2nd was 136 yd so don’t get too excited).
9) Aca’Cedric Ware – 205 yds 3 TD. Next best 173 yds 2 TD (Arizona)
10) Bryce Love – 90 yds 1 TD. 2nd best of the season
11) Myles Gaskin – 135 yd 1 TD. 3rd best of the season
12) Travis Dye – 199 yds 2 TD. Next best 115 yd 1 TD (California)
2019:
1) Chuba Hubbard 221 yd 3 td. 4th best so far (holy shit this dude is a slayer)
2) Miles Reed 42 yd. 5th best this season.
3) Duy Tran-Sampson 137 yd. 3rd best this season.
4) Cameron Scarlett 92 yds. 5th best this season.
5) Demetric Felton 166 rushing/recieving 1 TD. 2nd or 3rd best this season.
6) Zack Moss 121 yd 2 TD. 2nd best rushing but he had 177 APY 2 TD (ASU), 204 APY 2 TD (CAL) and 141 APY 2 TD (UW)
7) Modster had this one but im just looking at backs. Christopher Brown Jr. 49 yd 1 TD. 3rd best this season but 5th best if you look at APY. (Better than Oregon even)
8) JJ Taylor 78 yd w/ 89 receiving. 5th best so far.
OT: Angry, as I recall, you’re a Jets fan. Saw they lost to the “lets-get-the-first-pick-of-the-2020-draft Dolphins.” Man, you like teams to test you… Beavers, Jets…
Maybe the Jets will sign Luton as a FA based on his height, stats….
Yeah, they’re terrible. As a kid I took the Jets over the Giants and the Mets over the Yankees…guess I like the underdog. My theory is when they do win it will be especially incredible (e.g. ’86 Mets. Yankee fans will never experience an ’86 Mets).
Namath shows up, martini in hand….”I wanna kiss you…”
I’ve never been to a Las Vegas(or any other) Bowl. Anybody here been to that one?
If the Beavs somehow pull out 2 more wins and end up getting invited to Vegas, I’ll make it a priority to go.
I’ve got a bunch of comp rooms saved up at any MGM property that I’ve been looking for a reason to use.
A bunch, like an AB “conference” room block bunch??
We could bother you about recruiting insights IN person. Sounds like a dream come true.
Just multiple free days for a single room. Been awhile since i was last out there and i’ve been itching to go. Vegas Bowl would be a good excuse
Oh okay… I see how it is.
Kyle Bonagura of ESPN has us going to the Cheez-It Bowl against Iowa State in Phoenix, AZ. I think I’d rather go to Vegas though. :)
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27999026/college-football-bowl-projections
I don’t see us beating Iowa state
I did some stat checking of my own. Oregon state offense vs opponent defensive allowed pass and rushing yards are as followed:
Week 1) LOSS
Beavers passing: 281(above Ok St avg allowed)
rushing 167(above Ok St avg allowed)
Ok state passing: 203(below beavers avg allowed)
Rushing: 352(above beavers avg allowed)
Week 2) LOSS
Beavers passing: 169(below Hawaii avg allowed)
rushing: 263(above Hawaii avg allowed)
Hawaii passing: 421(above Beavers avg allowed)
Rushing: 67(below beavers avg allowed)
Week 3) Cal Poly didn’t get stats WIN
Week 5) LOSS
Beavers passing: 337(above Stanford avg Allowed)
Rushing: 169(above Stanford avg Allowed)
Stanford passing: 253(at Beavers avg allowed)
Rushing: 100(below beavers avg allowed)
Week 6) WIN
Beavers passing: 285(below UCLA avg Allowed)
Rushing: 163(above UCLA avg allowed)
UCLA passing: 236(below beavers avg allowed)
Rushing: 256(above beavers avg allowed)
Week 7) LOSS
Beavers passing: 167(below Utah avg allowed)
Rushing: 48(below Utah avg allowed)
Utah passing: 247(below beavers avg allowed)
Rushing: 256(above beavers avg allowed)
Week 8) WIN
Beavers passing: 174(below CAL avg allowed)
Rushing: 108(below CAL avg allowed)
CAL passing: 175(below beavers avg allowed)
Rushing: 107(below beavers avg allowed)
Week 10) WIN
Beavers passing: 328(above ZONA avg allowed)
Rushing: 244(above ZONA avg allowed)
ZONA passing: 378(above beavers avg allowed)
Rushing: 148(below beavers avg allowed)
Hard to tell a pattern with this info. It really is matchups that this team does well against. Hawaii and Stanford were games that the special teams and offense cost us the games. Utah is just that good. Okie State was the first game out of the gate and our defense was inexperienced. You can definitely see progress has been made based on these stats. The Washington intrigues me in regards to the spread, it’s at home and is on a Friday night. If the defense can slow down the rushing attack or Washington and limit the big plays, the offense should be good enough to beat Washington. BEAVS win a close one 35-32
Fools gold. Like against Utah, Beavs come out flat, lose turnover battle, and give up lots of big plays. Hope I’m wrong.
40 – 27
Wash
I think Washington +15 should be the line (thought I’d like to see the injury report). If they’re relatively healthy +11 seems low.
Smith and lindgren better have some screens, quick outs, fly sweeps, etc or it’ll be many three and out with Luton scrambling backwards for his life. I’m worried they will make these changes too late.
some draws too for Pierce? Or are those too old? : )
I like that Bradford adds some screen options in the passing game, as well as fly sweeps with Lindsey.
As long as the O-Line can protect and do a decent job of run blocking, the Beavers really have a veritable plethora of options…
What Krol said. Otherwise lots of passes into the 5th row
UH and Stanford were coaching losses. Those are on Smith. He tried to play through Luton’s cold streaks, which, if he were a FR, I might get. But a 6th year senior, whose advantage is allegedly “experience,” but when the offense is working BUT for the QB completing passes, you try the other QB, just like AZ did with effect.
Beavs should be bowl eligible NOW.
Didn’t realize Omar Speights had 10 tackles. Nice to have linebackers making tackles instead of safeties.
He seems to have really good gap responsibility. Doesn’t have to be the fastest because he is in position. Reminds me of a guy going after a rebound, he can predict where the player with the ball is going and meet him there.
But he’s soooooooo slow. Lol
He’s an mlb. Only times I have seen him struggle are when he’s trying to chase down a wr. If wr isn’t out running an mlb your team has problems lol
Exactly. MLB just needs to be able to read the play, move side-to-side, and shed blocks.
Top 3 tacklers are lb and 6 of the top 10. Good sign that the line eats up blockers and let’s the lb fly around.
ESPN has Beavs predicted to go bowling in the Cheez-It Bowl against Iowa State…no joke.
The old Insight Bowl. I have nightmares about that one.
BEAVS beat Notre dame in the insight bowl back in early 2000’s.
After losing to Pitt there a few years earlier
Wear orange. Orange unis….
You may have noticed Oregon State offered a JC QB, Chance Nolan.
(Insert take a chance joke)
He won’t be visiting till after the season because of scheduling conflicts, but we should be getting him on campus after November.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/3483288/Chance-Nolan
Great offer! He has tangibles that are lacking with Luton. If this is the type of QB Lindgren and Smith want, then yes, I can see why they are playing Luton over Gebbia. They want height with the ability to extend plays. They only have height with Luton. Chance throws with touch, keeps his eyes downfield, throws in tight windows and he isn’t afraid of contact(Lyle moavao anyone?)
Gebbia is taller than Nolan…
Right handed passer who can run to his left and nail a receiver on the run with touch…..sweeeeet!!!
Originally a MTSU commit out of high school. I don’t blame him for not wanting to go all the way out to Murfreesboro…
The question is, is this a bad sign re: Gebbia, or do the staff just see a looming QB depth issue and want someone other than a probably redshirting Gulbranson behind him? Willard seems to no longer be a factor.
So far this year: 69% comp, 27-2, 9.7 YPA.
The team is undefeated and doesn’t seem to have struggled much against anyone, so it may just be that he’s on a really good team, but his film looks good. The biggest knock I saw is that his
He looks more athletic than his combine measurables (5.2 40?).
Pretty weak offer sheet thus far. I can’t imagine it will stay that way.
Yeah if he’s a 5.24 then those defenses were molasis. His reads are not super quick, I was counting 3-5 seconds. Mechanics are pretty good. The offense was weird too, basically all streaks each play and if no one got lucky he would run into the middle where the defense was soft. Didn’t see any examples of hitting an out route or throwing with zip and timi g over the middle. Good depth add and could definitely be a good backup but I struggle to see him pushing Gebbia out.
Good point on the routes. The few plays that didn’t look like that all turned into scrambles.
Regarding read timing, when everything is a deep route, the plays will naturally take longer to develop. Plus he has good protection, so he can afford to sit in the pocket.
I like that you can tell he’s going through progressions instead of just locking onto his deep threat and bombing it to his first option every time. He also does a good job letting the play develop while he moves.
His HS stats and film were very similar to JC stats and film. Highly efficient dual-threat guy proficient at throwing the deep ball, but less of a track record throwing different kinds of routes.
Does the Beavs have a shot vs UW? Yes if they play well in the first half. The opening odds seem about right.
UW basically has been a great first half team. They have really struggled making adjustments after halftime. UW has given up only 13 points in the first quarter while scoring 104. I watched the Utah game and it basically epitomized their issues. UW went toe to toe with them in the first half. Then Utah made adjustments and ground UW into dust in the second half. Basically the same thing vs Oregon. Looking at their QB splits, his stats get progressively worse as the game goes on. He doesn’t play well from behind.
That’s the Beavs opportunity but they will need to play better than they have all year. UW will need to make some mistakes too.
Reasons to win –
UW is coming off two brutal home games and a road game with a short week.
OSU coming off a nice win and has momentum. Will have the underdog mentality.
OSU has the kind of offense that can wear down defenses. Two top tier running backs can tire out a defense quickly.
UW 3rd down conversion % is downright pathetic.
UW is not mobile, pass rush might have a good day.
Reasons to lose –
Beavs struggle against good QBs.
UW still has the talent edge.
Beavs defense is very susceptible to big chunk plays. Gave up a lot of big plays to AZ. vs UW, those will be game enders.
This isn’t a road game.
So it’s an improvement from what I thought earlier that UW would have to make a lot of mistakes for the Beavs to win. They still need to turn the ball over but maybe only twice.
I think the key to the game will be the pass rush. Get UW into 3rd and long a lot. And if they can punch them in the mouth early, Beavs can take them out mentally too.
Should be a fun game to go to. It will be nice to see a competitive game vs UW. Haven’t beat them since 2011.
“And if they can punch them in the mouth early,” that’s a key. Hit first, keep hitting.
I’m guessing the late start and 3-day weekend will hurt attendance, and a lot of UW fans will be there, which sucks.
We play great on the road lol
It’s family weekend. Lots of parents will be in town. Should be a decent sized crowd.
All the hotels in Corvallis and albany are sold out for the weekend.
Leach to FSU talk is starting to heat up.
Yikes. Didn’t see that coming. That kooky fucker might fit in pretty well in Florida.
Where are you reading this? I’ve seen not heard anything about Leach being a potential candidate at FSU.
Methinks they’ll aim a little higher than that. Urbs or James Franklin to start.
Part of the reason they shitcanned the fraudster is they want to get ahead of USC. Likely Helton is shitcanned by the end of the season.
A guy on to follow on twitter is florida state eye doc
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/florida-state-coaching-candidates-bob-stoops-mark-stoops-lead-replacements-for-willie-taggart/
That came from the CFB “Quotes” idiot on Twitter.
Are you a U Arkansas grad and a Beav?
I did my undergrad at OSU, my Masters at WSU, and now a PhD at Arkansas, so I’ve been around haha.
Who’d you root for in the CWS?
I was definitely rooting for the Beavs. I got to witness a bar full of Razorbacks go silent after the foul ball drop. Probably one of the greatest sports moments to witness.
My prediction for the UW game? Beavs lose 35-0 and I won’t be watching.
Hey! It’s worked the last two games.
In all honesty I think the Beavs win next two and get bowl eligible.
Counting bye week you are 3-0. Never watch another game you shitty unicorn of inaccurate fate!
Seeing a lot of comments on here about UW being beat up. I looked up the players and the significant ones I see are their top wideout (huge help), a rotation wideout and a smattering of defensive players (no one in the top 10 in tackles. Can someone more knowledgeable on UW expand on what injuries are a big deal for their teams success?
I think you got it right. Top WR and depth guys, a depth MLB. I think some people are overestimating the injury factor.
The feeling in Seattle right now seems to be similar to the feeling at USC (minus all the injuries the Trojans have had): the team is talented enough to beat anyone, but keeps giving away close games.
I’ll take anything that makes Eason uncomfortable. Losing his favorite Target is a big deal, should slow down his reads slightly.
If nothing else, throw off his timing on the routes. Imagine Hodgins going down and out for the upcoming game…that’s a big deal.
OTx2:
WBB-The gals play Team USA tonight at 7pm in Gill. Game is all about learning, but note that Stanford lost to T USA by 15. Comparisons will be made.
If you listen, take note of broadcaster Ron Callan. He is the sideline guy for FB and I think he does a good job.
LUKE- Los Mochis don’t play today, go again Tuesday. He is likely to start.
This site has Oregon State play Boise State in the Las Vegas Bowl: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/college-football-week-11-bowl-projections-alabama-lsu-aim-to-reserve-playoff-spot/7fce657mlwtk1uq46b5z80f9d