I’ll have an exchange with Hank from GoMightyCard up in a day or two. Post below your questions for Hank.
I’m going Beavs in this one. 35-20
I’ll have an exchange with Hank from GoMightyCard up in a day or two. Post below your questions for Hank.
I’m going Beavs in this one. 35-20
First!?
I am fully on the fire or help get Lindgren out as the OC train regardless of how well the QB’s improve the rest of the season. The play calling was horrible against Utah. Lindgren clearly complicated the game plan and felt like he needed to force the explosive plays rather than let them develop organically. Lindgren has ingenuity and creative plays, but his ability to understand putting your team behind the sticks is essentially telling a batter to swing at the first pitch then bunt then swing for a base hit. He ran Jack Colletto once and it was stopped short of the 1st down. first time he’d been stopped in a long time. So he never went back to running Colletto. Lindgren is grasping at straws with a lot of his play calling as well. The fact we have no continuity or identity of what we’re trying to do, means his confidence in the offense is not there when it comes to building itself.
I called the Jack Colletto pass several plays before it happened and once they ran the double reverse for a TD, I knew the next time we tried it would be a pass. They worked, but they were predictable. I don’t know who we would get as an OC at this point, but it’s got to be someone who can recruit.
Washington State has a QB who came from FCS I believe and they are calling better games than we are right now. I don’t see us winning this weekend. my confidence is shot at this point.
Lingren puts me on an emotional roller coaster and I feel there’s more valleys than there are peaks. Hard to put all the turnovers on him unless he’s asking the qb to make throws they’re not capable of. So far most the picks seem to fall into the terrible decision making vs asking a non-mobile qb to constantly roll out and make throws on the run for example.
It almost seems like he has no feel for the game at all. Go 3 and out or throw a pick, has 2 successful runs then back to the passing game for 3 or 4 plays in a row. I get we can’t survive on being 1 dimensional but it was this same way last year. Baylor has 2 or 3 runs for 20-30 yds then we completely abandon the run for 3 series. Jam griffin comes in gets a first down and 15 yds in 2 carries, gets pulled and then they pass the ball. Doesn’t allow 1 back to get in a zone, and even if the run game has 3 successful runs in a row we stop.
The rb situation is a bit baffling. I think we are trying to keep 3 people happy to avoid xfers out so this is a big reason for the lack of a clear 1, 2 punch. Based on the last 2 games alone, Jam has clearly been the best runner. These substitutions seem to be made at the detriment of truly establishing a run game and the coaching staff seems to forget that WINNING is the great equalizer when it comes to player happiness. In this day and age, players are going to xfer. Will the 3rd string back you are giving 4 runs per game to stay because of those 4 plays? What happens when Lowe comes back? Going to give each back 4 carries a game? Lol.
It’s easy to take these 2 losses and feel like we’re crashing and burning, and tbh, we are at the QB position. Chance wasn’t good last year. He’s even worse this year. It’s too soon to call anything on BG. I’d like to see what he can do with a full week of 1st team snaps and preparation vs on the road with little notice vs the #12 in the country. However, what doesn’t appear to be changing has been some of the coaching decisions or philosophy. I think for a few years we gave the benefit of the doubt cause it’s a talent issue or these aren’t their guys, etc. Well guess what? These are their guys now! The talent is definitely better than it was when they got here and yet the same types of calls are being made. Lingren wants to throw the ball. I get it. It’s fun but you need to play to the strength of the team and personnel and right now that’s not throwing the ball. It should be 15+ carries for Jam, some tough yards and what not by Fenwick/colletto and change of pace for a few plays with anyone else. I’d like to see more screens. We gave great wr once they have the ball in their hands. Harrison’s best plays are when he catches a 2 yard screen pass and can use his speed and feet. Similar with Gould and Bolden.
It’s almost like Lindgren is trying to implement a run and shoot/air raid type of offense instead of calling plays to get the defense off balance. You run up the middle to wear down the defense, you run along the outside gaps to tire out the defense, when you get the defense to feel they need to creep up to stop the run, you call the pass play before they stuff your run game, not after they stuff the run. It seems whenever our run game has a decent 3-5 yard gain, or gets a first down with a run, he goes into pass mode. Passing game is not used to the advantage of the offense. If you run the ball 40-50% a game and pass the rest, fine, but running the ball 20-25% and passing the rest is not who this offense is right now. This is where the identity crisis comes into play. They don’t want to be 1 dimensional like they were last season, but they are trying too hard to run a different style of offense this season.
Well they ran the ball more than they passed so idk wtf your talking about there.
Here is the percentages of run/pass and how many runs and passes were called for each possession. Based on these percentages, I can see why there was no game flow for the offense. Lindgren would sometimes run 1st and 2nd down then pass on 3rd down even when we’ve been gaining 3 yards a carry on 1 possession. Other times, he would call 2 pass plays in a row then call a run play. His play calling style changes with each possession. example, the 6 runs to 1 pass for our TD, he tried to replicate that drive with the first FG. Then went balanced then for a possession unbalanced then back to semi balanced.
Lindgren doesn’t seem to understand game flow and he’s inconsistent with what he’s trying to get the offense to do. I like the plays we run and their concepts, I just don’t think Lindgren is a good play caller.
For the game it was 55% run, 44% pass.
CN INT 0% run 100% pass(0 runs, 2 pass)
Only TD was 86% run, 14% pass(6 runs, 1 pass)
CN INT 0% run 100% pass(0 runs, 2 pass)
First punt was 66% run 33% pass.(2 runs, 1 pass)
Turnover on Downs 80% run 20% pass(4 runs, 1 pass)
First FG 88% run 12% pass(7 runs, 1 pass)
Second FG 55% run 45% pass (5 runs, 4 pass)
Third FG 43% run 57% pass(3 runs, 4 pass)
BG INT 17% run 83% pass(1 run, 5 pass)
TO on Downs 67% run 33% pass(4 runs, 2 pass)
BG INT 40% run 60% pass(4 runs, 6 pass)
Hit me with your questions for Hank.
Which CB/DB is their best defender/ball hawk to where the QB’s should not throw in the vicinity when passing to our WR’s? Meaning, who is Stanford’s version of Utah’s CP III who got 3 picks, 1 for pick 6 against the Beavs?
No one in the league is like that kid.
Stanford has continued to recruit well in recent years, but seems to be way underperforming the talent they’re bringing in. Is there a certain unit that has underwhelmed, or have the issues been across the board?
Stanford has played possibly the toughest schedule in the country so far. Are they better than their record indicates?
How has the transfer portal affected Stanford?
That’s a good question. Might add NIL to it, too.
Third! I won the Bronze!!
The obvious question, is if Shaw is starting to get a little bit on the hot seat at Stanford?
I’ll ask. We ask that every year I feel like…haha.
Any questions about the matchup?
How do the lines match up?
Looking at Stanford’s remaining schedule, their only “very winnable” remaining games are OSU and ASU. My concern is that they will throw the kitchen sink at this game, knowing they are at home and there aren’t many great opportunities going forward this season. A loss for the Beavs against Stanford would be the death blow and likely would result in a losing season. That would be pretty brutal for Smith’s trajectory.
After watching the 0regon-Stanford game on Saturday… woof! The RPO offense Stanford is running is terrible, uninteresting and certainly off-brand. Not a fullback in sight? Smaller, receiving-type tight ends?
They have forsaken the football gods, and shall continue to be punished for their sins. OSU 34- Tree 17
I haven’t been paying attention, when did Stanford switch to RPO and why?
Could be a sign of the NIL times where all of that beef they used to recruit is following the money to the south.
If Colorado hires Lindgren (which I doubt they’ll do) do they become TPB?
That’ll depend on who he is replaced with.
They may take a coach on the cheap, or they may take a coach that has a buyout currently(Paul Chryst) unless that buyout states it will be reduced if they get another HC job. I could see Lindgren as an up and coming HC. This might be why he’s trying too hard to get explosive plays and not calling a good game? He might be trying to beef up his resume of proving to have an explosive offensive team? Lindgren is hurting himself and the team if this is the case. The offense was fun to watch last year, but this year it seems to be trying too hard to force the team to “take the next step” rather than let it happen naturally.
I would be thrilled to have Chryst be our OC for a year or two, but I’m sure he will get several HC opportunities.
Colorado should throw the checkbook at him, today.
But yes, I’d take him all day as an OC.
Not optimistic that Beavs will be able to beat Stanford. D doesn’t create turnovers and QB play is not what I expected. To win on road you have to have a competent QB and win TO battle. I expect Stanford to run the ball, protect the ball, and force QB to beat them. I honestly don’t think it will even be a close game. 31-17 Stanford.
Gonna happen but we lost a safety commit outbof Texas. I know we’ve been targeting that a lot these last 2 years so maybe there’s some depth there but I do think we lose quite a few bodies after this season. Grant, oladapo, Wright and Julian would all be gone if I’m not mistaken. Plus who knows what happens with Austin. He seems like he’d be back for that final year but that’s 4-5 guys that would be out. Seems like the secondary could go from a strength to a real need rather quickly.
The red zone frustration sounds a bit like @ WSU, when Beavers had 1st and 10 at the 12(?), two RBs averaging about 7 YPC, and decided to start throwing. I think they went backwards and turned it over on downs. In other words, Lindgren has done this before. Maybe this IS his identity?
In the first three games, how often did OSU score a TD in the red zone throwing v. running?
If that Utah game was a home
Game and the play calling was what it was in the red zone lindgren would have been booed out of the stadium.
It’s been his identity.
Boise State: 0 passing TD – 0/2 pass completions – 1 rushing TD – 5/6 positive yard rushing – 2 FG’s
Fresno State: 1 passing TD – 1/2 pass completions – 3 rushing TD – 9/11 positive yard rushing – 0 FG
Montana State: 2 passing TD – 2/3 pass completions – 4 rushing TD – 13/13 positive yard rushing – 0 FG
USC: 0 passing TD – 1/1 pass completions – 2 rushing TD – 5/5 positive yard rushing – 0 FG
Utah: 0 passing TD – 1/6 pass completions (5th and 6th attempt were intercepted) – 0 rushing TD – 2/5 positive yard rushing – 1 FG
Clearly Utah has a better red zone defense than any of the other teams we played. We ran the ball in the red zone almost as many times as we passed the ball.
Question: Does Stanford have any big TE targets like they have in the past? I can’t remember their names, but they have had tight ends tear us up in the Tibesar era.
To be fair, players at every conceivable position tore us up in the Tibesar era
Very good point
The answer is:
“What was open field tackling?”
Wazzu home game is on Pac-12 Networks at 6 PM PST. 4th time we’ll be on the Pac-12 Networks. Our ratings are going to look horrible in the national light because CBS Sports nor Pac-12 Network announce their viewership #’s publicly.
Question for Hank:
What should be made of Michael Wilson only getting one reception vs swoosh? How often is he being used as a decoy?
Another question: If Lindgren wises up and uses sweeps and reverses to defeat a Stanford D which will, likely, stack the box, how does Hank see the Stanford D holding up? Does the Stanford front 7 have the speed to respond or the muscle to break up these types of plays before they get to the edge?
From KSL in SLC: “SALT LAKE CITY — No. 11 Utah played to its lowest offensive output of the season against Oregon State on Saturday.
That’s when you take into consideration the offense only managed 361 total yards (199 yards passing and 162 yards rushing) against a team that ranks 55th in the country in total defense (Beavers give up an average of 358 yards per game).
Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham called the run game “way too soft” and was surprised his team didn’t get more yardage in the passing game.
Still, the Utes managed 42 points (35 on offense) in a lopsided victory over a well-coached and rising Oregon State team.”
Well coached? No mention of TOs and atrocious red zone performance…
Speaks well of the D for holding Utah to its lowest season output when the Beaver “offense” gave them four extra possessions…i guess the pick 6 denied the Utah O some yardage…
Stanford looks slow and dreadful on offense. The kid from Lake Oswego is a smaller slower version of McCaffrey and the qb is a bigger slower and much less talented version of Andrew Luck. The Dline is not nearly what it used to be, secondary is finally being called for holding penalties, TEs aren’t going to be future pros and Shaw has a lot of detractors to deal with in the Bay Area. The fans will be dressed as empty seats and the Beavs on paper should roll to a lopsided win….but Nolan equalizes all of that if he plays and makes it a road pickem. BG is not a great backup option if he can’t see the field and only locks onto the first read.
I think the Beavs defense will win this game but the Beavs offense may be responsible for losing it.
I’m going to call a Beav win even with 2 more ints,
The only way Beavs break it open is with explosive plays that are actually TDs instead of 1st &goal tackles.
Beavs 24- Stanford 23
COTT?
I think the Beavs defense will win this game but the Beavs offense may be responsible for losing it.
I agree with me, the Stanford RPO offense is dreadful. The QB only optioned to himself 2-3 times the whole game in Eugene. If they show up this week like last week, one of our Speights will get 20 tackles.
I am a sucker for power football, and seeing Stanford move away from that is very sad.
I’ve always felt that Nolan’s limitations would keep the Beavs out of the USC/Utah/UO group at the top of the conference, but that he’s probably good enough (but not the reason) the Beavs could finish 4th to 8th. They just lost 2 games they were supposed to lose, so this game is critical for getting back on track and not feeling like the season is lost. Reluctantly, I would start Nolan (available?) against Stanford, but JS has to be ready to pull him if he is costing us the game. I don’t expect Nolan to be the reason we win, just don’t be the reason we lose.
Questions have been sent into Hank. Thanks, all whom contributed.
From Smith’s presser:
Smith said senior Tristan Gebbia could get some first team turns in practice, but Gulbranson will start if Nolan can’t play.
So……..don’t bother to hide anything from Shaw? Probably won’t matter to the Stanford D plan; pretty simple “stack the box, make the Beav QB, any of them, beat you with their arm”
Smith wouldn’t answer if Musgraves had surgery. So he probably did. Smith also does the players right and takes the blame for the errors.
I think they asked most of the questions that were brewing here.
He’s not allowed to comment on whether a player had surgery or not. I wouldn’t read into the that.
Musgrave isn’t playing again this year
Old news jk
That’s what I am hearing too but it’s just a sprain and he could return if he wanted to. No surgery. It’s a poor decision imo. He’ll get a flyer as undrafted FA.
Think JS will go after Bachmeier? Too soon?
I’m sure feelers have been put out but it’s early to go for a commitment. Plenty of guys will become available at the end of the season.
Agreed. I’d wait a couple more months and see what other quarterbacks enter the free agent market, er transfer portal. Bach Meier has been poor this season, although that OC is partly to blame.
He probably should.
We should be able to do better, even though in reality we will do worse.
Isn’t Bachmeier the QB that was absolutely horrible in all his showings this year for Boise? If so, he’d be perfect for the Beavs!
He was great last year, though. I wouldn’t make him Plan A, but he would be worth a flier.
His 2021 numbers were very nice.
Glanced through and didn’t see any 4 INT games so that’s an improvement anyway.
35-20? You talking points or interceptions, please clarify.
Lol’d at the interceptions.
Sorry if I missed this earlier and I know it’s not football, but D1 baseball had Beavs as #5 program. I don’t subscribe so I don’t think this is a pre-season ranking but more of a state of the program in its entirety. Thoughts? I personally think next season is gonna be a down year based primarily how much offensively we’ve lost and I think the pitching will be worse than it has been in the last 5-6 years. A lot of talent on the roster based on recruiting rankings, but a lot of young guys are going to have to produce in ways we really didn’t see them do in the limited capacity they played last year.
Well they looked pretty damned good beating the piss out of Gonzaga in both ends of a doubleheader Saturday at Vince Genna.
LeGarrette Blount, still not done punching people at football games, apparently got into a fight at a youth football game recently. Word is he’ll be reinstated in time for the Civil War.
LOL, I had to look that up…
https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/03/legarrette-blount-throws-punches-youth-football-game-fight-cops-investigating/
I will say, pop warner is some wild shit, some of the parents are too much, and often the coaches as well. Seen plenty of things that almost went sideways.
Listened to the Joe Beaver show, first time this season. Mike Parker’s questions still lead the interviewee into saying something nice about the Beavs – works usually but today Petro (?) didn’t fall into line and expressed doubt about the fate of the Pac – whatever number. Parker audibly upset. I admire his years of commitment to OSU but his lack of objectivity can be overboard. Still fascinating how he can carry on non-stop without seeming to take a breath – more so in this format than in calling games.
I can’t stand listening to him during games anymore. He just sounds so depressed all the time.
It’s been that way for at least a decade. Brutal.
He needs to get back on the sauce
Basketball season is almost upon us……..
Yeah, but really, what does he have to be excited about? I mean things have been pretty depressing tbh.
This! Parker has been in the position of putting lipstick on a pig for a while. He is an admitted homer but not to the degree of so many others. Mike does a great job calling games and I enjoy the 3 major sports much more because of him.
Riley and GA nearly ruined us all, give him m some leeway.
Mike Riley was 85-66 in 12 seasons. Developed players to the degree that they put basically the same number of players in the NFL as the Ducks did with all their money and much more highly touted recruiting classes. Sure he had flaws but what coach doesn’t? The Riley hate on this site is baffling. In all likelihood, the Beavs will not ever have a more successful coach.
You’re so right. Mikey was the best. Except for never winning anything important (at OSU) he was the bomb.
The Beavs should accept reality and just enjoy getting curbstomped by by powerhouse football schools like Sac St.
Which one of the following is more difficult…..Climbing Mt. Everest with a guided group and supplemental oxygen OR Climbing Mt. Everest alone, with no oxygen, wearing a hoodie and sweat pants? Riley got the Beavs to within one win of the Rose Bowl on 2 separate occasions. Didn’t get it done, and that’s disappointing, but its very impressive to have that level of success at OSU given the obstacles. Nick Saban didn’t do shit at Michigan State and Bellicheck didn’t do shit with the Browns.
You don’t have much historical perspective. The point isn’t reflective on Riley. It is a fact that this sight doesn’t even exist without Riley 2.0 failures and GA only compounded the frustrations.
Gil strap was Riley’s ace in the hole and he was responsible for the under the radar talent you mention. Riley is a lifetime .500 coach with a self limiting ceiling which we all saw over the years.
Didn’t mean to ruffle feathers of Riley backers but it was a maddening journey by the end of his second tenure.
Agree that the end of Riley’s tenure wasn’t good. It would be a mistake however, to assume that had he stayed, there is no chance it would get better again. Maybe a new assistant would have come in with fresh new ideas, there’s no way to know. Look where Bellotti was trending before they stumbled upon Chip Kelley.
Yea, he really turned it around in Nebraska.
Plenty of $ and support there.
Still putting guys in the NFL…
Gilstrap was Riley. Erickson was also Riley. He really couldn’t do much on his own. When Gilstrap died and the pipeline to amazing, under the radar talent died, we saw recruiting fall off a cliff, and Riley get exposed. He was a really bad in-game coach, too.
Gilstrap was the best “coach/recruiter” OSU’s ever had. Just insert “Gilstrap” into every pro-Riley comment and you have the truth.
That’s fair and true of many organizations where a mid-level all star is much more important to their success than they get credit for. The CEO still sets the tone however. I just think its really really hard to win in Corvallis and being in charge of the culture and overall ecosystem that produced some really good seasons for an extended period isn’t easy. Mike Price is basically the all time GOAT at WSU since he made it to 2 Rose Bowls. But overall his record was pretty close to .500. The fact that he got just lucky enough to make the Rose Bowls in those 2 random seasons doesn’t make his tenure wildly better in my opinion.
Right again. If Mike had the support and money of a school like, oh let’s say Nebraska, well there’s no telling what he might have accomplished.
Proof is in the record.
Hey I’m not gonna argue his Nebraska tenure was a success, although there was one decent season. This ain’t your father’s Nebraska though. That program is barely better than Indiana or Illinois these days in terms of a recruiting destination.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÀAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
God I remember the “now you’ll see how good Riley is with a real school backing him” bullshit.
Simple Jack had a little bit of fire when he was young but he was a flaming bag of dogshit after Chip Kelly started wiping the field with his wrinkly ass every year.
Good riddance.
This is the type of disrespect that just makes me cringe. Chip had one of the greatest runs any Pac-12 coach has had, so yeah Riley didn’t compete with that. He did come within one Lagarette Blount late substitution from beating him on the road and reaching the Rose Bowl though. Not too shabby. Do the Angry Beavs really think they are entitled to a better program than Cal, or UCLA, Arizona or ASU? We had it under Riley and those schools are all far more attractive destinations for recruits.
Remind me again about Mike’s record against such recruiting hotbed’s as Boise, Utah and Fresno, California.
Mike was almost, but no cigar at OSU.
Riley had great success, but it was time to move on when the Corndogs took him off our hands. It’s entirely possible to both appreciate what he accomplished at OSU, and recognize that the program was stagnating toward the end of his tenure. Unfortunately, he mostly hired within his network of connections, which tended to be guys without much imagination.
Perhaps his biggest mistake was keeping Banker on too long when it was clear he was unable to adjust his defensive philosophy to keep up with changing offenses in the game at the time. There was a pretty strong correlation between our defensive success and the team’s overall success, and there was a strong downward trend in the later years.
It’s still funny to me how much bitterness there is toward Riley here when he actually accomplished things while in Corvallis. GA was singlehandedly responsible for dragging this program into the desert and leaving it for dead for 6 years until JS saved it.
Yep, agree with pretty much all of this. I personally am in the camp that wanted Riley to stay and retire a Beav, but realize I’m in the minority with that opinion. For those saying it was time for a change, I get that and am not really even saying you are wrong. My only point has ever been that his level of success will not be easy to replicate. I believe Smith has the potential to achieve more, and really hope he does since he is far likelier to stay for the long term than a different up and coming coach would be. He’s walking a tight rope though and can’t afford to lose momentum. A losing season needs to be avoided at all costs.
JS’s recruiting has maintained its upward trajectory, so as long as the talented newcomers are able to see the field, we should at least remain competitive.
Aidan Chiles is probably the most important recruit of JS’s tenure at this point. He’s already lost out on a few other guys who could have been the program-changing QB we needed. They need to throw all sorts of money at Chiles to get him to Corvallis.
+1 Million. I love the Beavs, but if I listen to him exclusively, I would have jumped off of the top of Reser 100 times. Just my luck, 99 out of 100 I would have only broken a leg.
Parker is paid to be a homer and he’s not a reporter. Can’t have your in-house announcer trashing the program or the future of it. That’s what a blog is for.
Stanford is out their star corner and “cornerstone of the defense”. I guess that will help out whoever is passing on Saturday. Sounds like he’s the star of the defense.
I haven’t been very impressed with Mccartan this year. He’s been getting knocked down a lot in pass rush situations and missing tackles.
Has Saluni played very much? He’s kind of a tweener between DL and OLB.
Chatfield should be playing the most at OLB probably. He seems to be the only one who can win 1 on 1 battles at the edge position.
There was decent pass rush at the beginning of the Utah game but seemed to become non existent as the game went on. I’m sure they got tired and probably were just deflated but the pass rush needs to be better and more consistent. That would go a long way in creating more turnovers.
Beavs establish the run early and win 27-7
I’m sure NB is busy, but want to make sure the weekly pick ’em is going to go up before Friday evening?
Thanks for the reminder. Games are set
Steven Kwan Rookie of the month for September!
Always liked the guy as a Beav, but never imagined him having such a big impact in MLB. Really been impressed with him
Amazing! You go back to his first “mediocre” year at OSU….he has slowly and steadily gotten better at his craft every single year….even in the Majors! Just an awesome testament to persistence, will and desire.
Jordan Poyer AFC defensive player of the week..at age 31.
That dude’s got a pretty wild story…zero star recruit out of high school. Then a 7th round NFL pick. And now he’s in his 10th season as a team captain and a legitimate star. That story is almost as crazy as Brady’s…and it really, really doesn’t happen like that often.
His lack of elite athleticism has always limited his chances and he’s always been overlooked… but he has always impressed any time he’s been given a chance.
Agree. Great story. That said, I respectfully disagree on his athleticism. Dude is definitely an elite athlete. 3 sport guy in HS and very good to great in all 3. He’s a freak athlete with quick twitch and phenomenal hand eye coordination. Riley said he had NFL potential before he got on campus even though he had no interest from other schools.
At the NFL level he’s definitely not a great athlete. He’s very smart, savvy, and a technician- and that’s how he makes his living.
At the college level you could certainly argue it was more that he just was overlooked…but usually football “athleticism” refers to the speed/strength/size combo, and while good he definitely was never elite in that regard.
Hrruummmpppfff….My Poyer bobblehead doll would say otherwise!!!
He was in the top half percentile for most combine CB stats. He can run a sub 4.5. Some noteable he was top 5% in CB vertical and top 10% for CB bench reps. I could go on, but it is ridiculous to say a standout NFL athlete is not elite… any NFL player for that matter.
Agree 100%. Any NFL player. Just look at the D-1 level athletes. Some are better than others on the field but there are so many that are just straight up great athletes. And they got there because they were 1st and foremost great athletes that stood out at the high school level. Poyer is, and always has been, a superior athlete.
Yup plenty of guys with limited athleticism thrive in the NFL……………….
The best play I saw Poyer make in person was the tackle/fumble recovery fronts that the Pac officials called as targeting while he was entering the end zone about 5 seconds after the hit. Still frustrating to remember. Turning point in a home game that Stanford ended up winning, if I remember right.
I was at that game. The Stanford receiver he collided with during the interception had his third concussion that week, previous game included. That was a bullshit call made to look worse by a kid spazzing out on the field that shouldn’t have been playing to begin with. Concussion protocols weren’t really in place back then (not really enforced nowadays too, but you get my point).
From the latest Nick Daschel piece:
“Lindgren and Colorado: The Buffaloes are looking for a head coach after firing Karl Dorrell on Sunday. Could Lindgren, who previously served as Colorado’s offensive coordinator before landing at Oregon State in 2018, be a candidate?
Asked if the job interests him, Lindgren said yes, “if the situation is right.” But Lindgren quickly pivoted to his current position and said, “We’ve got to score some points.”
Lindgren was Colorado’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach from 2013-17.”
I think Lindgren is a smart guy and a good OC, but given the difficulty he has has in recruiting a single position, I question whether he has the personality to lead a whole program.
Is he the QB coach too?
This is a great opportunity for him to shine by having Gulbranson and/or Nolan finish out well against remaining PAC foes.
I suspect Lindgren will not shine in this regard….
Yes and he’s the lead recruiter on QB’s
Maybe he’s trying too hard to shine and adding more stress onto himself to prove he’s fully capable through extra effort and forcing the situation instead of letting it happen naturally?
I think Colorado would do better to hire Chryst. I’d be happy if Chryst would do an OC gig at Oregon State for 4 years…maybe become HC if necessary.
New thread up with Hank’s responses.