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  1. Wallace better realize his odds of making a Rose Bowl are much better with GA then Riley. Riley will never come close to beating Meyer or Harbaugh in a game that matters and will fall to much more lowly foes too. If Wallace anchors the Beavers secondary under Sitake and Collins continues his growth, OSU could be poised for a considerable breakthrough season in 2017. Wallace will be a part of a couple great seasons at OSU while Riley struggles to maintain his employment.

    • It’s true. You can take the beaver out of Riley but not the weasel. Wallace will probably get significant playing time as a freshman next year. GA has recruited him as an instant impact player. Feels like it may be the year we beat Oregon at home in the Civil War.

  2. Quacks still ranked (24) in one of the polls. Thise two wins over Eastern Washington and Georgia State must have been REALLY impressive! *eyeroll*

  3. I gotta comment on that Utah game….

    That was such a one-sided ass whuppin, I find it amazing… The Duckies just losing would have been wonderful, but to see them get fucking dismantled … DAMN!!!

  4. anyone else notice Jeff Lockie wearing a red hat with is number 17 on it? Isn’t wearing a hat with YOUR number on it just a tad narcissistic?

          • I am definitely behind on my rumors.

            Btw… I don’t even buy rumors from the get go. I do buy that others buy them. And situations can be colored because of all that stupidity gathering and festering in one idea. So I don’t mind profiting off the stupids. Lately that has been at a stupid rate.

            But I guess some people can’t see beyond gold.

  5. It started well for fall sports but it’s been a rough couple of weeks. Loss in VB to hole, some losses in soccer on both men’s and women’s, football getting slapped around, I need em to get it together.

  6. Instead of watching the Stanford game, I attended AC/DC concert at AT&T park in SF. The opening band -Vintage Trouble – was very sharp and I’d recommend a listen. Nice slide guitar work, and the lead singer shows some clear and strong 60’s R&B influence, James Brown – informed without just imitating him.

    AC/DC sounded very good musically, Brian Johnson ‘ s voice struggled a bit to keep up a few times. Highlights: Shoot to Thrill, Have a Drink On Me, Dirty Deeds, Thunderstruck, Sin City, High Voltage, Whole Lotta Rosie, Let There Be Rock, Highway to Hell, For Those About to Rock. I enjoyed the 3 new songs they played, opening with Rock or Bust, Let’s Play Ball a bit later.

    For all the jokes about their age, they played for nearly 2 hours with mostly fast paced songs and Angus bringing more energy than most individuals in 3-4 generation – crowd could match the entire show. Angus sounded sharp and great, and a bit more restrained on tracks like High Voltage. Their breaks between songs were longer than they used to be, but the band works to put on a great show. No unnecessary talking, didn’t overdo the stage props or videos. Odd to see little kids, 12-ywar olds, and grandpas at an AC/DC show.

    I suspect this is their last tour with Malcolm out for good. If so, they are going out well and I’m glad I saw them; I was skeptical.

    This review is pretty accurate:

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28881961/review-ac-dc-shoots-thrill-at-at-t

    • VT has been around a while. From what I hear, they’re some of the better session artists who got together, jammed and did it right. Sort of a modern day Eagles, if you will. They’ve been known in the LA underground and as openers for the biggies (old timers we all know). And they’re really popular in Japan, like Cheap Trick was before Budokan made them popular stateside.

      Don’t ask me what might be popular now. I have zero clue. I just like what I like and laugh at everything else.

      • I’ll definitely start giving them a listen. I was glad to see AC/DC give this sort of band the opening slot on their tour.

        They did an original song about LA, which the SF crowd rudely booed because it was about LA….

        • They’ve opened for The Who and the Stones. Like I said, they’re known underground in LA and by the music industry as a whole. They’re high energy, and they’ve found a niche in funk/rock fusion. I would’ve expected a sound like theirs to come from Louisiana or Houston via Louisiana… or maybe Muscle Shoals. That’s how raw the type of music is. Maybe Muscle Shoals is the best comparative, because you can tell these guys are polished session dudes.

  7. Just got banned from Addicted to Quack site for calling their fan base pompous and the resulting decline as inevitable. Guess they can’t handle the truth.

      • Meh… the banhammer is almost always ethically wrong. But there’s little reason to go to a Duck site, let alone poke them with noise… unless you want to be that guy. One would think the irony would be obvious before doing so.

      • Not upset that I got banned. Intent was not to antagonize but to set the record straight. For years the Ducks have had an unfair advantage with Phil’s donations. Regardless of how much money is pumped in, eventually they were going to decline. The fans were under the erroneous assumption that life at the top would last forever. Many Duck fan’s attitude was out of whack and it is just nice to see them come back to reality. I’ve heard a lot of cocky comments from Duck fans over the years and I felt they were deserving of my little dose of reality.

        • See… what we specialize in here is raging against the machine until such a time said machine breaks down. Then we can sit here and do the passive-aggressive, “I’m not one to say I told you so.”

          And we know their glory days aren’t quite over yet. This year may be comparatively bad for them. But they’ll have another year where they wildly succeed just one more time before finally collapsing. Riley did the same. The thing is, coaching deficiencies that are apparent now will become crystal clear in that one successful year. They will keep that year from being all it could be. And then they will fester and go septic.

          The only thing I would worry about as a Duck fan would be that they gave up. That was as bad as the UW game for us. But we had seen that and other surreal events many times with Riley’s teams. And he still had a huge following within our fanbase and among his peers, and it was always excused as “Corvallis/OSU doesn’t have an airport.”

          We know it’s coaching. Most die-hard Duck fans know it’s coaching. Identity is formed by the mentality set by leadership. Yelling and screaming and stomping and throwing things is not the way to instill that. But, just as wrongly, the opposite isn’t either. It’s done with consistent, repetitive words and actions. Giggling and rubbing your face a lot and saying, “Well you know, um, yeah,” several times does not that identity make.

          I’ve said it before. We’re going to look like Luke being beaten by Dragline in some of these games. But that will pay off in years to come as that mentality sets in.

  8. It’s pretty quiet on OLive and seems like all media is at a stand still right now trying to recover the weekend. Also, Traffic this morning was pretty light…I’m assuming most Uck fans didn’t want to come to work today? Don’t blame them after an embarrassing loss at home…at least we lost by 18, and not by 42 at home while being ranked in the top 15…yup, they had it coming.

  9. Phil Steele’s Report Card (comparing prediction with actual result):

    Predicted Total/Actual Total:
    Stanford Rushing Yards: 153/325 (-172 yards)
    Stanford Passing Yards: 210/163 (+47 yards)
    Stanford Total Yardage: 363/488 (-125 yards)
    Stanford Points: 33/42 (-9 points)

    Oregon State Rushing Yards: 126/111 (-15 yards)
    Oregon State Passing Yards: 104/275 (+171 yards)
    Oregon State Total Yardage: 230/386 (+156 yards)
    Oregon State Points: 14/24 (+10 points)

    Total Game Grade: 82.9

    Season To Date Game Grade: 79.4

    My personal power ratings spreadsheet has also been updated. I think there’s been some misconceptions: This isn’t trying to pick the Top 25. It is trying to determine who would be favored over who on a neutral field. So it is less concerned with who-beat-who than the overall team performance. It is also factoring in the strength of the opponents, and their performance as well.
    To read, scroll the page all the way to the right. This week’s “predictions” are under the W5 Column. Positive number indicates favorite. Negative number indicates underdog. You can also see the projection for the season for each team.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l2T3pgiHk1WKiNvQZUzWzWYR3Oo5HoBxrxcCbnl2LcY/edit#gid=27

    • Something has to be seriously wrong with your algorithm if GaTech is #4. They have been dominated for two games in a row. At home or on the road does not matter. They are just getting killed.

      • There are a lot of teams who would lose their last two games against Notre Dame and Duke, and both were on the road. (Can’t believe I just typed that sentence… but shows how good of a coach Cutcliffe is.) Quality of opposition matters, so it’s not docking them as much as it is an Ohio State team for struggling against Northern Illinois at home. Like I posted above, its trying to project who would be favored vs who. It’s not a Top 25 Coaches Poll. Although I guess it might as well be. (This is also probably why they did away with the BCS Computers ;-) ).

        • There are a lot of teams who would lose their last two games against Notre Dame and Duke….

          Yes. But there are not a lot who would simply be destroyed by both… at least not in the top 50 or 60 teams.

          But then we’re not talking top 50 or 60. We’re talking 4.

  10. Saw Omari Johnson got invited to the Blazers training camp. They only have 12 guys under contract, so seems he could actually have a shot of earning a spot. Blazers are gonna be terrible this year

  11. From a husker: “if defense wins championships we are not going in the right direction” #TPB

    Back to beaverland, it’ll be interesting to play a decent team that doesn’t have a ridiculous size advantage and see how we do

    • NU won a championship 18 years ago, right? When are they going to give up the fucking ghost and realize they have a nice little “somewhat better than average” college football program and just relax for godsakes? “Manically-grinning Bicycle Peddler” is sure the hell not going to be any difference maker. Tom Osbourne is dead (metaphorically anyway), move the fuck on!

  12. Pretty fucking spot on. Take away a once in a lifetime QB and you’re left with what???? A shitty to mediocre defense that has been that way for a few years. The offense isn’t bailing them out anymore

    But the Ducks’ system is based on wearing out opponents and scoring in bunches because of their tempo and speed. That scheme isn’t nearly as novel as it once was in this era of fast-paced, scoreboard-busting offenses. Defenses now routinely face offenses that run attacks similar Oregon’s. When the offense sputters, tempo works against the Ducks and exposes the defense by forcing the unit onto the field for long stretches.

    A similar pattern emerged last January in Oregon’s 42–20 loss to Ohio State. The Buckeyes closed the game with 21 unanswered points. “[The Ducks] need that offense to be elite to help their defense, which is average,” says a head coach familiar with Oregon. “Their defense isn’t very good, especially their secondary and inside linebackers. And I thought schematically they were pretty vanilla.”

    The concern for the Ducks this season runs deep, as the defense was also bad against Eastern Washington (42 points) and Georgia State (28). Oregon has given up an average of 40.8 points per game. Last year, the Ducks ranked 30th in scoring defense, yielding nearly half as many points (23.6).

    http://www.campusrush.com/oregon-in-trouble-utah-tcu-injuries-1374259309.html?xid=si_social

    • It’s also because they would get up so quickly. Most coaches would predictably abandon their game plan once down 2 scores and try to catch up with 1 play. Turnovers ensue and it gets out of control quickly.

      You need go into the game to knowing Oregon’s a team who will probably score some quick points, but let you back in the game if you stay calm and stick to the plan because they’ve always been soft. Coaches panic and play into their hands.

      • The article states that. The offense used to be able to bail out a mediocre defense. Not anymore.

        “When the offense sputters, tempo works against the Ducks and exposes the defense by forcing the unit onto the field for long stretches”

        No worries. Go Beavs

      • and for the record, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Honestly, many if us gave stated do not deviate from your game plan. Ball control offense, defense resting. Kryptonite. Despite the fact they have not been beaten every time. There’s a reason for the Stanford blueprint against them.

      • Who cares what we did. We have made it to 2 National Title Games recently and have dominated the PAC 12. What have the Beavs done? Nothing. Ever. You guys suck, and will continue to suck. If you ever get to 9 wins, just consider it a National Title because that is the best you will ever do.

        • Unlike the ducks, the beavers don’t live and die by college football. Oregon State still has a much better academic program and I don’t see that changing. Kudos to you. Your degree means nothing but at least you can proudly wear your bedazzled jerseys in pride!

          PS – you say “we” as if you were on the team. Were you the equipment manager, soap handler or back washer?

        • obviously you care since you took the time to respond. Still on the bandwagon or will you jump after the loss to Colorado this weekend?

        • It’s really “natty” or go home for any elite program……..does the phrase “window of opportunity has passed” mean anything to you? Thanks for playing.

        • “What have the Beavs done? Nothing. Ever”

          Ever? Are you sure about that?

          OSU still has more national championships in “big 3 sports” than the ducks. The most recent duck NCAA championship (track and field excluded) is in 1939 in basketball. At least we have two “natty’s” in the modern era (baseball).

          • Gawd fucking dammit!

            That 1939 hoops ship was not a sanctioned tourney. It was NCAA in name only. It went bankrupt immediately and sold itself to the actual NCAA and was sanctioned from that point forward.

            But that one was at best the redheaded stepchild’s cousin of NCAA tourneys.

            That was not a sanctioned NCAA championship. It wasn’t even a tourney with the best teams in the nation going head to head. It was a third class tourney that tried to piggy-back off the NAIA Tourney in order to gain some interest.

            It didn’t… for about 10 years when Adolph Rupp got upset that the NIT was “watering down” the field by expanding the NIT to 16 teams… and he shunned the NIT for the NCAA Tourney.

            1949 was that year. We were semifinalists that year. The final four was in Seattle. Meh.

            Anyway, 1950 was the turning point. CCNY was the best team in the country. They proved it by beating everyone in both tourneys. And then the NIT became second class.

            So whenever someone tells you there is a championship in their books, remember that “national” has only been recognized since 1950. NCAA has only been recognized since 1940.

            1939 was a tosser.

          • No you’re not. And that’s not funny. Gill is a great old gal. She will rule the day in the very near future.

            Fuck seat backs and cup holders. Give me a place to go see some hoops! But please give me some lighting and a center court board.

            Please?

            Back to the original thought… Gill is an awesome barn. anyone who studies hoops and thinks an architecture weenie with his models and flow garbage is the way to go needs to take a rain check… a number… a whatever.

            Sorry whatever.

            We have one of the three most formidable arenas for hoops in the west. And we’re trying to destroy it? We’re trying to talk it down? Are you kidding? Make it better where it can be done. But don’t ever think Gill is not a premier showcase for hoops.

            -end rant-

          • heh heh…

            Don’t take anything I say personally unless I say it’s personal. I rant on the silliest of sillies sometimes. I apologize for taking you off your original intent. I would argue that the “big three” are really the “big two” in terms of revenue sports. And I would never diminish T&F championships. That’s an outstanding win and a proud achievement for a team. It’s the one time I go against what Nikegon wants to be. I will proudly say the T&F teams are Oregon. But that’s a whole culture issue. Those die-hards are the ones who also sat at Autzen on rainy nights back in the 70s and 80s… just like many of us did at Parker.

            Give respect where respect is due.

        • Oh, I think alums and boosters DO care….

          Getting in two NC games is a high….but DECLINE is gut wrenching, aint it?

          Man, how you ducKies have DECLINED!

          …meanwhile the suckers just to your north are comin on…. Get ready for the day we beat ya!

          BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    • Forecast in the triple digits for the next three days, then it dips to mid 80s early next week and levels off to ~90 for the foreseeable future. That’s hot for any reasonable person and why I don’t spend hundreds upon thousands of dollars on my air conditioning bill every year. But it’s not dangerous for a smart, well-nutritioned and physically gifted person. Cramps could pop up for someone who trains and plays too hard. But that could be anyone.

      I would worry more about Baldwin and his Coke habit in heat like that… and who they have in the replay booth.

      • But then… 3rd and 1 plus -.5 equals first down in Stanford-game logic. That play and review will forever piss me off. That one is worse than Vinny Testaverde scoring a TD but still not quite as bad as our Beavs “fumbling” on the goal line at UW… or the Zony game with the booster in the replay booth.

    • … expectations have changed dramatically.

      Dam straight!

      … we exceeded our expectations….

      You barely exceeded mine. I said the talent on hand was good enough to buy in and win 12-16 games and 5-8 in league. That was taking into account the talent in the Pac last year. “Experts” were all given the “experts” treatment by me this time last year because they were lazy. I’m so happy our kids didn’t buy that.

      The problem we ran into was lack of depth,” Tinkle says. “That also meant we couldn’t practice late in the year as much as you need to. (My teams have) always been pretty dang good at peaking at the right time. The last month and a half of last season, we could only go for about an hour. You can’t get better that way. The added depth and talent is really going to help us this year.

      Money.

      About GP2:
      I expect him to have an even better year,” Tinkle says. “He had a great summer. He is way more comfortable now that it’s his second season. He needs to be our leader, and I don’t necessarily mean in every statistical category. I mean in setting a tone with how hard he works, how we prepare for game.

      Also money.

      About nepotism:
      It’s a pretty neat feeling.

      Dammit! Okay… I’ll let this one slide. Double standard on nepotism and the “neat” thing? No. A double standard implies bias when both sides are equal.

      The finish is better stuff still. I’m happy enough to cry right now.

      • nepotism isn’t just giving your kid a roster spot. It is giving your kid a roster spot they didn’t deserve or playing time they don’t deserve. Too early to call it nepotism.

        • That’s the point.

          All things being equal…

          That should be the baseline to call nepotism.

          All things being equal, he hired his brother instead of so and so. Where it gets ugly is where someone decides to force all things to be equal by narrative and then hires according to bias. The former is bad enough. The latter is the norm.

          A good manager ignores this and makes his unit work in favor of utility. In this case, utility is off the charts. But most corporations run the same way and fail. How is that?

          This is a good conversation to have on every level. Do we give Donald Trump a pass because he started out with an A pedigree and held that? He only did so because he didn’t pay his bills and went bankrupt on umpteen projects. I would be wealthy too if I didn’t have to pay my bills. It’s a different level, but I could probably retire having never paid a bill and received mega taxbreaks.

      • Where does Togiai fit into the basketball rotation? Does he just focus on Football and and redshirt in Hoops or does he play in December when football finishes? He is kind of a missing aspect with the new freshmen class.

        • He will work in when he can. He was going to redshirt and was planning on gearing up for hoops. But Smith came down with mono, and he got called up.

          It’s one way for a football coach to keep a kid from playing hoops. Maybe that happened. Maybe it didn’t. At the very least, you know GA hears about how the kid likes the hoopsters and likes hanging out with them and playing hoops in his spare time.

          I mean… who can blame him?

  13. On JoeBeav today: Mageo and Sitake. If you can be patient through the administrative BS between Parker and his sidekick, these are two good interviews. I’ll try to find a link for angry to review upon his return, too much good stuff for me to do a decent job summarizing.

    I really like both of these guys (no, not referring to Parker and sidekick).

    EDIT: podcast should show up here: http://www.hypothetical.net/beaver/beavercast-full.xml

    • I can only listen as far as “ya know what I mean?” and “just sayin” and rephrasing the same statements and questions over and over.

    • Parker is actually pretty good on the interview side. As we have said for years, it takes a media who asks questions for real answers to occur. So if the interview is good stuff, that’s on the media/medium.

          • My personal tolerance is taxed when John Warren (sp) tells us how he is trying to get the broadcast to work technically and when Mike wanders too far afield from the topic at hand. I’m sure producing this type show is not easy, and it is simple to point out areas for improvement. Patience though, got to bear in mind it is small town stuff…….haven’t even got a big airport.

          • Don’t sell common sense short.

            Finding a managerial type who is willing to manage talent is likely impossible given that radio has gone to complete profit-taking shit and expects some newbie grad from such and such a school to tell that guy on camera … live… to get over his ego and, oh yeah, go fuck himself.

            I heard an interview with Tierann (sp) Mathieu (sp) this morning which was really really good. The interviewer asked great questions and led him to tell his story with an honesty that I haven’t heard in a while. It was just a neat deal.

            I’m now a fan of his, and I’m rooting for him.

    • OK, here is the direct link: http://hypothetical.net/beaver/assets/JoeBeaverShow_2015-09-29.mp3

      I couldn’t resist noting a few of the remarks, but it really is worth the time it takes to listen to both interviews in their entirety.

      Begin around 0:51:30. Around 56 Mageo cites boredom as an enemy to good performance. He makes the point that you cannot “turn it on” in the game if you’ve not worked in practice. Mageo comes across as no dummy, even if the use of “boredom” was strange.

      Sitake starts around 1:01:00. Schnell pipes up at 01:02:20 (is there really no such thing as a stupid question?). Depth and size a concern but Sitake feels guys were tougher than they were vs Michigan. “What we are teaching is different than what they had in the past…when things get tough players regress to old habits” Sitake makes a point of not saying that the old techniques were good or bad, just that they do not fit the new system. At 01:04:40 he makes the point that if you aren’t ready to sacrifice to hold your ground you probably shouldn’t be playing FB.

      Apparently the interview with Sitake was primarily Lindsay’s for “Talkin’ Beavers”, so some may see it there.

  14. Interesting stats:

    -I believe I saw on Olive that Riley’s Nebraska is second worst in country in penalty yardage. Surprise!

    -Jordan Villytron is the 4th leading receiver in p12. Not shabby.

  15. Nugget of ducky delusional wisdom:

    “If we hadn’t completely face planted last Saturday, I’m confident we would’ve won.”

    Um….yeah…. nice insight

  16. 4 star Shurod Thompson thought to be close to committing. Getting two 4 stars back to back is a good start to the rest of this recruiting cycle. Good to get them committed early enough where Oregon State’s recruiting reputation rises and these guys can help recruit other athletic talents while they are still up in the air.

    • Oregon secondary has rabbit ears. I hope whoever our QB is during the civil war can take advantage of it, but I’m not holding my breath. As long as we can get some stops and not go 3 and out every time, the quacks are still going down

      • I dunno. Woods and Ward did so well against Oregon, I say run the ball down their throats. Both of them probably averaged 5+ YPC, Woods maybe 6+.

        Andersen has claimed he wants a “power running game,” and some of the OLine recruits have mentioned that and like it. In the CW, wouldn’t an in-stater like Nall love to pound the _ucks into submission? Woods will get his yards against them, maybe the Nall role is more developed by then…Lucas would be a nice change of pace. Then Collins takes off….

        I realize there has to be balance, but going away from the run against the Ducks just seems unnecessary. Even if down a few scores in the third quarter, a team could go no-huddle, emphasize the run, and still move down the field without using too much clock.

        BTW, noticed that UCLA coaches are trying to get their true FR QB to slide too….

        • We know now that not doing what got you there is a failed idea from the 2008 CW. Banker thought he could out-coach Chip Kelly by doing nothing the team did for the run up to that game. And he stuck with the failure because he thought something weird.

          Make tweaks or whatever. But remaking your team is about as stupid as you can get.

          And then we get the lifetime contract and have to focus our frustrations on that guy instead of the guy focus should have been pointed. It was just a sickness. I don’t get it. I didn’t get it then. I don’t know if I’ll ever get it.

          And I don’t know if I can ever forgive the men my school paid millions of dollars (and will continue to paid through PERS) for sitting on the sideline that one time when the opposition was scoring a long TD, giggling at some inside joke. I just can’t get that image out of my head. That is their legacy. Argue all you want. Make me remove that image as something so antithetical to sport, let alone how it affects my memory of them as ambassadors of my alma mater.

  17. Because some here have talked about a sports psychologist, here’s a story regaring the NY Mets that may be of interest. The direct relationship here is a former Beav:

    “Michael Conforto, the Mets’ rookie left fielder, who just last year was playing college baseball, uses a similar breathing technique. When he comes to bat, he pauses, takes a deep breath and focuses on a spot on his bat. During college, he would draw a smiley face on his bats and make that his focal point. But he breaks so many bats in the major leagues that he now just looks for a good scuff mark.

    “Sometimes I’ll catch myself — it’s almost like I’m holding my breath,” Conforto said. “So I just make sure I do it before every pitch.”

    More here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/sports/baseball/mets-psychologist-helps-players-catch-their-breath.html?_r=0

    • I recently heard volleyballs Taras Liskevych mention that he’d used a sports psychologist for his team. In the past Pat Casey has said the same.
      Wonder what the cost:benefit ratio is for occasional visits by a contract sports psych versus having one on staff for the entire department?

      • The cost has to be negligible according to what’s spent on athletics as a whole. The stigma is the barrier. More stories like this break that stigma. It is a tool that can be valuable in the little things. When coaches don’t have to preach focus, their teams are better.

        • And there are ancillary benefits, like this story. Conforto is a great dude in the clubhouse just because of who he is. But to shrug it off on something so simple makes his teammates look at him and take pause for their own careers, maybe life. It can be viral.

  18. Just throwing this out there.

    Is there an argument that coaches who are seen as D specialists are the best head coaches in football? I know there are outliers for either side. But it seems right now the coaches who were really good DCs, regardless what position they may have played, are instilling the real football mentality that it is a tough sport.

    If you go back in history and look at what coaches did what, wouldn’t that be true most of the time?

    Bill Walsh and the Coryell legacy are all I can think of that break this rule.

    And then there’s a point to be made that to be a great great NFL QB you need to spend time either growing up or playing college ball in the SF Bay Area.

    The latter is a little more tenuous… if the former isn’t at all.

    • We have to acknowledge that Lombardi is the gold standard. At least, that’s my opinion. But he was borne of another day when it was just slobberknocker all the time. And he was an O-lineman, historically the smartest people on any football team. If he didn’t know toughness, who would?

      But that was another day. Now we have Chip Kelly, O genius, who plays around the edges on toughness. We also have Jim Harbaugh (and, as an extension, his brother) who just have it in their heads they will beat up on you regardless. If the scoreboard favors you in the end, so be it.

      I think that mentality is hard to come by from the O side with all the rules about QBs being Barbie dolls and all. I think also DCs know what works against them and find like-minded people who can institute those ideas.

      And then, in the end, there’s just having a great QB who makes not only the O better, but he makes the D better for having to face him on a daily basis. I argue even that is a mindset. That QB is tough enough to say, “Bring it,” to his D on that daily basis. And that makes him better in the process.

      Trust the process?

  19. Bye week topic – Baseball!!

    Has anyone been to see the team scrimmage? I guess they scrimmaged last weekend. I’m particularly interested in seeing how Grenier and Madrigal are fitting in. I expect them to be full time starters due to their hitting abilities. Both were rated as plus fielders too and it’s why no one expected them to actually arrive on campus. Both played extremely well over the summer.

    My starting lineup
    1. Madrigal – 2B
    2. Morrison – SS
    3. Harrison – 1B
    4. Grenier – 3B
    5. Nobach – OF
    6. Ice – C
    7. Gillette – OF
    8. Freshman – OF
    9. Donahue – DH

    Rotation
    1. Rasmussen
    2. Tweedt
    3. Eckart

    Closer
    Englebreckt and Heimlich

    Morrison may be able to hold onto SS due to his experience so I shifted Grenier to 3B. Hard to choose between Madrigal and Donahue but I think Madrigal is just the better all around player. Madrigal did play some CF during the summer so maybe he moves there. No idea who the CF will be. I don’t think anyone on the roster played there last year.

    In the end, the lineup looks pretty formidable. Hendrix will be tough to replace but Clark, Hamilton and Gretler combined to hit under .200. Cary coming back would have likely made the lineup one of the best in the nation.

    The pitchers coming back imo were good but not great last year. Drew had his perfect game but outside of that, he wasn’t spectacular. I don’t expect anyone to be Moore but they all need to get better. Any freshman that step up is a plus.

    Overall the outlook is strong. Pretty much expecting them to win the Pac12 and make it to Omaha.

    • Don’t count on Sam Tweedt, out for the season according to Eggers. He (Eggers) has Heimlich as a starter with Hickey as possible closer along with Max.

      http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/274687-150324-oregon-state-baseballs-blend-of-vets-youth-leads-to-optimism-for-2016

      Always thought Pomeroy had the look of an intimidator, maybe his performance this season will fit that image since he didn’t do it last time around.
      Gretler is high baseball IQ and I expect Casey to find a way to use him, maybe even a move from IF to OF.

    • I think you were right that Madrigal could slide to CF. If he’s that good, then his range will be that much more valuable out there while he still plays in the middle. Donahue was just so good with KJ on the right side last year… and with Morrison. I just think breaking that up would be an injustice regardless of incoming talent.

      Grenier is a five tool player. Put him on the corner, and everyone is better. Cary’s surgery sucks. I was hoping for greatness from him this next year. Do we have a timeline on rehab?

      • Jack, I think you’ll really like Madrigal on the IF. I don’t think either will be out of the lineup.

        Since Cary is not a pitcher, rehab will be faster but maybe too late to play next year.

        Forgot about Hickey. If Heimlich stays in the bullpen, that’s a good 7-8-9 closeout group. All can go multiple innings.

        I guess a freshman will have to step up into the Sunday role as well as Tuesday.

        – that’s a lot of guys getting Tommy John. I have seen reports it’s becoming more common.

        • I understand. I just loved the right side and how Donahue tied the IF D together. I have no doubt Madrigal can do better at the position given metrics. But I worry that going for said metrics might throw the IF out of balance.

          That, and I see Madrigal platooning with Morrison on the left side. So I don’t want to make an imbalance on the right side just to play the kid at IF. And I would hate to waste his talent up the middle. I see CF as the most important D position. So I was happy with Hendrix back there. I think Madrigal will be the SS, not the 2B, of the future. If anyone is displaced, then Morrison moves to the OF.

          I thought the same was true when Jake was 2B. He could call the game from there. He steadied the IF and calmed the P. When he went to C I thought we lost an on-field coach. Barney was that way too. It’s an intangible. But it’s what I see.

          If Madrigal has that in spades, then this conversation is meaningless. He might have it. But I still think I want him on the left side first.

  20. Just read that Sands and Caleb Smith are going to redshirt.

    Hasn’t Sands already played this year?
    Also, Smith coming back another year removes one more available scholarship for 2016. Bummer….

    • They’ve both played. They can’t officially redshirt. But if they have injuries which will keep them out of remaining games, they are eligible to petition for a medical hardship.

    • The mono thing has been mentioned several times and I always wonder about that. With Smith in a “no contact” jersey last week in practice I really wonder. Isn’t mono very contagious? Must be a situation where it is only contagious for a limited window of time, otherwise why have him at practice to infect additional team members?

      • The contagious phase is fairly short. Hopefully he was not making out with any of his teammates!
        The splenomegaly, enlargement of the spleen, is the issue which will keep him out as it can cause life threatening bleeding if ruptured by trauma.

  21. Interesting, this CO/UofO game might end up being pretty competitive. Apparently Vernon Adams has complications from sickle cell which make it difficult to do anything athletic at a high elevation. A couple of UMass players with the same condition skipped a trip to Colorado St earlier this year because of the risk the elevation poses to their health.

    Not that Adams has been all world this year, but if he can’t go, it will be the Jeff Lockie show again. This might just turn into must see tv again.

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4331419/solomon-tuliaupupu

    • Wallace has my attention. He can make ST special all by himself as a frosh (that’s a blatant lie). And he can learn his craft while getting reps on D… and taking over as a soph.

      In other words, I think he might be decent. In other words, I don’t think he’s going to be a Riley 4*.

      Yeah, I said it. Go look them up, NU lurkers.

      • Ugh!

        Just thinking of them… Gabe Miller should have started as a MLB. What the hell were those coaches thinking? We’re going to play you at a position you really can’t play just to promise you something nobody else will promise?

        Come on!

    • Last I saw, he was still tweeting positive vibes our way. I know there was a point where someone thought everything turned off regarding him. But I’ve seen good vibes from him always. If he ends up here, good stuff. I hope he does right by himself first and gets school in order.

      I would have killed (metaphorically) to play a game I would have played for free, and in my spare time, without fanfare or fame… in order to not have to work several shit jobs (that were honest work, I guess?) just to pay for the ramen I was so blessed to have for two of the squares per day I had time to scarf.

      You’d be surprised how far canned veggies and ramen go with a bottle of whatever sauce you feel like having that day. Fried crispy ramen is decent too. But you need to salt it. I can not stress that enough. If you fry it, you must salt.

    • My recording of The Drive was all a volley ball game. Pissed me off. Set a couple extra recording replays during the late hours just in case.

  22. If you could have a starting 5 and three guys coming off the bench from the past 5 years of Beaver basketball (2010-11 season until this past season), what would be your picks?

    I’m thinking
    Hallice Cooke
    GPII
    Jared Cunningham
    Devon Collier
    Eric Moreland

    with Berto and Angus Brandt off the bench. Gonna have some interior defense problems because of the beef underneath, but it should be good as long as C Rob isn’t coaching. Perimeter wise it could compete with any other past 5 year lineup in the conference with the exception of Arizona.

    • I’d start with Angus. We have yet to see what the new bigs will do, but Angus was at least a steady force. You’re right… the point center concept never really took off. Oh well.

      Jared and GP2 are a championship back court.

      The 4 spot is my biggest mystery. Am I getting the potential that Moreland or Daniel show but never play? Am I getting the one-sided play Devon or Joe gave me?

      I don’t think we’ve had a solid 4 since Lucas. And we didn’t have one prior to him for years.

      Hmmm?

      I will take Gomis. I know what I’m getting, plus I think he’s better than he’s shown.

      SF is a lock for Omari. I thought he was done wrong with his skill. He was really good despite all the poor coaching he received.

      Berto is my sixth man. Anyone who can go Shoeless Joe is money in my book. Besides, I need a microwave off the bench.

      And Seth would be the end of my bench if I’m a seven deep coach. He can play 1-3 and I would trust him to spot up on 4. Glue guy… makes my team complete.

      I could go Tourney with that team just by rolling the ball out there.

      • I’d pass on Berto due to his lack of defense
        guards, easy

        GP II and Cunningham

        Forwards/Centers

        Collier
        Brandt

        If I had to choose a 5th it’s a toss up between Burton and Moreland. But both had their moments that frustrated the hell out of all of us. So my list stays at 4

      • Past 5 years or seasons? 5 years, Seth Tarver is a yes since he graduated in 2010. However that was 6 seasons ago. If we’re going by years then I agree and he would be on my list.

  23. The Drive was great. Got to see inside the beaver locker room for the Stanford game and see the quacks get their asses kicked in slow motion. Whittingham is intense

    • Anyone else pick up on Utah defensive end Hunter Dimick driving in downtown Corvallis???? The part of him driving is clearly heading north on 3rd street in downtown Corvallis with Safeway on the left and Dairy Queen and Firestone tire station on the right. Why was he in Corvallis?

      • I haven’t watched the first. I’ll watch to see.

        Nice catch. Maybe family is here? Poly fam is tight. Corvallis is perfect for a Poly mafia (in terms of athletes getting together… not in terms of crime… like you think I’m writing… analyst guy… dammit… I know you’re there… now I’m on another list… kidding… I know you’re too lazy to Venn… let alone listen).

        What was I talking about?

      • having worked in the film/video industry Id say what happened is the editors wanted a “cutaway” for that scene and didn’t have any of Hunter so they just used some footage from elsewhere in their library, thinking no one would recognize the location, and most people wouldn’t.

        But that’s definitely Corvallis. There is nothing in the shot to compare the car to though so it could be anybody.

  24. Okay.

    Nobody bit on the “what makes a good or great head football coach” postulate.

    Let’s try something else.

    What makes for a HoFer as a RB? Will any current players get there? Will any get there at all if metrics are how we measure them?

  25. Fine.

    All those smoking hot missiles convinced me.

    Steven Jackson is a HoFer. Cut it off at 15K apy. If ships are a requirement, then remove many. What the fuck do you want for a RB?

    Because you’re not going to get him again.

    And what does it say about the league that they have had three of the best RBs in the history of the game?

    No… John Cappelletti is not one I rate as best. But I loved him just the same.

  26. I can see dependence.

    I depend on many sites to have a voice.

    I don’t know what you stupids are thinking… because you’re fucking cowards. Yes… you are cowards. And, if I didn’t express it correctly, then I think fucking is an appropriate adjective that I might have missed while calling you cowards.

    whatever

    *apologies to whatever

  27. I mean… there’s some great humor mixed with some poignant ideas….

    And all I get is silence.

    I challenge the casual reader to step up here. Clearly, some who think they rule the day do not do so.

    And do I do so? King of the hill baybeee!. It’s a daily thing. Most days I lose. But I keep going.

    Anyone out there? Be a voice. Be your voice. Be you.

  28. Sometimes I wonder if Angry just gets stressed out sometimes and says he’s going on vacation somewhere but really he just locks himself in a room full of pillows, takes a bunch of shrooms, and logs back in as Jack

  29. So here’s a question:

    Did Nebraska let Simple Jack give his assistants multiple year contracts? So would they have to buy Banker out at the end of the year when they force Bike to can his butt buddy?

    It will be funny to watch that play out.

  30. Was Eric Dungey recruited to OSU? Sounds like he’s off to a good start, save for the concussion.

    On a side note, I like MOST of the simplicity of the Syracuse uniforms; the simple, one-color, outline-free numeral (don’t care for the font), same for the helmet, the orange is “done right,” the finish on the helmets looks good in my opinion. Don’t care for the gradation of the “stripes” on the sleeves or pants though.

    http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/274995-148822-dungey-takes-lead-role-quickly-at-syracuse

    • From the highlights of his first couple games he seemed poised and confident for a Freshman. Would have liked to seen him recruited to OSU. He committed to Syracuse just before Riley left.

    • funny to hear reality smack them in the face at the end of the interview, where the host just sighs after he realizes Nebraska is tied to Banker for the long term and won’t ever be any good unless they find an offense that can just outscore opponents. Defense will not win them games.

      good stuff, thx for the link

    • Read is making almost $100K more than Nebraska’s previous D coordinator…..

      Gotta hand it to Riley, if you’re in his inner circle, you’re set for life.

  31. Seriously… is there a benchmark for RBs to be in the HoF?

    I’m going to set my arbitrary number at 15,000 yards from scrimmage. Convenient for me thinking SJ should be in, but I think that’s a worthy marker given that everyone over it is either already in or a shoe-in… as are some below that mark.

    • Without putting much research into it 15,000 sounds a little high being that only 3 people have ever broken it. Emmitt, Walter and Barry. I think AP is the only current back who will get there.

      Players are so much bigger and hit so much harder now a-days, that running backs just don’t last that long.

      12,000 is probably a better number which puts SJ and Frank Gore on the cusp. Dropping it to 12K gets you Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, Franco, Ladanian, The Bus and half a dozen others.

      Unless you want a truly elite HOF.

      • I think he means 15,000 yards from scrimmage as in rushing and receiving yards combined. 15k rushing alone would be a hilariously high benchmark like you said.

      • That’s just rushing yards. SJ tops 15k for yards from scrimmage. That puts him at #21 all time in the NFL and #15 all-time among NFL RBs.

        But how much will he be punished for playing on a crap team for a decade? He managed 77 TDs and over 95 ypg in his career despite facing eight men in the box for almost all of it. He was overlooked for probably three Pro Bowls because he was the only thing happening on a bad team. That’s punishment enough right there. Imagine what he could have done with Emmitt’s O-line. Imagine his TD totals if he produced at the same level he did for Atlanta but had Jerome Bettis’ situation at Pittsburgh. Bettis has only 60 more yards in his career than SJ. Bettis did it for two years longer and played in 192 games compared to SJ’s 158 games for a Rams team whose QBs I can’t remember.

        Frank Gore started the season just under 14k. He should hit that mark. But he played on a team that was first bad then became great for a stretch. And he likely won’t do it in the same 158 games (it’s possible). He will score more TDs in the end. I think he’s tied with SJ right now.

        AP started the year just under 12k. He’s on track to hit 15k in two more years. But will he do it? And rushing, AP started the year at about 10k. I don’t think he has 5k rushing yards left in those legs unless the year off healed him more than we can imagine.

        Matt Forte is starting to creep up there too and is still in his 20’s (barely). He’s another who has outstanding totals but can’t generate any respect due to the team he’s on. He probably deserves three or more Pro Bowl invites than he’s received as well.

        And SJ is the all time leading rusher for the history of the Rams organization… and only behind Isaac Bruce in yards from scrimmage.

        I feel like he’s going to be punished for the Rams’ inability to form a cohesive thought in their front office for a whole decade.

        • I guess the next question is whether or not someone will pick him up. He could suit up this weekend if he lowered his standards and decided to play for any number of teams who suck.

        • Crazy how athletic some football players are. Used to play ball with SJ from time to time at Dixon. Didn’t have very good handles and kind of an ugly shot, but could raise up and cram on you or catch an oop off the backboard if you’re not paying attention. At that size it was impressive.

          Hope he is a HOF’er down the line, but will probably be overlooked because the rams sucked so bad.

          • Kind of similar to how you have to be on a top 5 team now to win the Heisman. What Quizz did (or SJ for the matter) behind bad lines was more impressive then what any Hole rb has ever done and should’ve garnered an invite to NY.

            Sometimes you get punished for being the #1 option on a shitty team. Get people saying “He’s only good because he’s the only thing they have going” where it’s actually the opposite. They’re actually greater then they appear because they’re almost the 100% focus of the opposing defense. The plight of playing on a small market team. It’s all politics in the end.

        • “Luck o’ the Beavs.”

          Christ, if he has Emmitt Smith’s lines he runs through the end zone straight to Canton. Smith didn’t have his size or top gear. Imagine DBS having to bring him down on a regular basis instead of DL and LBs. Ouch.

          He was an elite RB and remains a consume professional and deserves to be in Canton.

      • Far be it for me to play armchair psychologist, but I doubt these people generally think such actions are the answer to their problems. I think it’s more likely they have immense frustration and anger, for which they cannot find an acceptable outlet nor means of coping. The only course of action left in their minds is to lash out at society. I doubt they think it will solve much, but the action and/or attention must mean something to them, twisted as it is.

        That’s my theory anyway. On another note, the media should stop giving these murderers so much attention. It provides extra incentive for the next one. Along those lines, I’ve stopped reading stories about these events beyond whatever headlines I see in passing. No need to give the media extra clicks and incentive, either.

        • I couldn’t agree more.

          Ive become numb to them, and while this one hits a lot closer to home, I still feel like its just never going to change, and I’m just not strong enough for another pointless internet debate about why, what, how. I just don’t want to hear about these things anymore.

          Sad. sad sad sad.

        • “I think it’s more likely they have immense frustration and anger, for which they cannot find an acceptable outlet nor means of coping. The only course of action left in their minds is to lash out at society. ”

          So mass shooting is the course of action? I don’t think we’re disagreeing. Why isn’t free speech the means? Volunteering for a cause? Writing elected officials? Voting?!? Fuck, go run or work out until you want to collapse. I don’t mean that to sound facetious, though it does. There are other means that don’t rob others of THEIR future, nor leave their families with grief that potentially lasts until THEIR death. The indiviual still chose mass shooting as the means to express their frustration.

          You want to deny them attention? Ok, I can agree with that to extent, but that implies he chose mass murder as the means to attention.

          There are an estimated 7B+ people in this world, and there’s going to be some crazy ones; I get that. I’m just tired of the expression of this insanity being the mass elimination of others and the subsequent consequences for their families; this in the greatest free country in the world (still believe that), where people are supposed to pursue their dreams (like betterment of self and community through education, such as people were pursuing on that campus).

          I am tired of this happening in Oregon (Clackamas town center, other) and America.

          • “Why isn’t free speech the means? Volunteering for a cause? Writing elected officials? Voting?!?”

            I think we all agree those are more constructive, but they don’t have the same major immediate impact as these stupid shootings. The media will give this shooter more attention in 10 minutes than he would have likely received for an entire life of volunteering or writing. Plus the shooter probably received more visceral gratification (again, in his twisted sense) than political involvement would have given him.

            I believe our always connected, always a crisis piped into your home, always changing changing changing world is largely to blame. It creates anxiety and a sense of danger. It encourages superficiality (looking at you, social media). It leaves people in a “look at meeeee!” competition. Enough should be enough, but we are swept along by not wanting to be left behind or out of the loop. Companies are all too happy to encourage this, as they have new products to sell and new media for you to give their advertisers viewers.

    • Thumb down all you want. The OP in that thread is the actual shooter from UCC today. Look at how many were encouraging him. There is something wrong.

      • That’s not the same person. That might be more disturbing, because there is some weird rationale in that thread. Some news outlet was tipped to this and ran with it because it’s better to be first than it is to be right… apparently.

        I’m paranoid of many things 4chan. I often think threads like this are started by law enforcement in an attempt to try and take the temperature.

        • Do we know for sure it wasn’t the same person? I read something similar last night but haven’t seen any proof (one way or the other)
          If not, we at least all were exposed to the “temperature” of quite a few f’d up individuals living amongst us.

          Also, reading through the message board as well as the shooter’s blog last night, it helped support the idea that this is attention craving behavior. Poor 20 something kid couldnt get a girlfriend and people didnt like him, so he decided this was an easy way to make sure people knew his name. The news media coverage of these events is giving these guys exactly what they crave. (And here we are on an osu sports blog talking about him too)

          • Yeah… the original news outlet who tied this thread to it was outed by another news outlet who was contacted by this guy to say, “No… that’s not me.” He is being investigated to see if he has any ties to the real shooter.

            But the real one had emotional issues that were known. If it was for attention, this is what he thought it would be. That’s how disturbed he was. It wasn’t a matter of his existence being the reasons behind his problems. They were as much a symptom of his mental state as were his actions. But he found a way to somehow justify all the actions externally and not realize why he was how he was. That’s a societal failure. I’m not going to pretend I have an answer for this or mental health in general other than I know these people live among us, known by some who actually have some answers but are helpless to help them because society thinks we’re not in this together until we are.

          • That’s crazy… So they actually glorify some of the other losers who have done this!!?? That is scary as hell. That Santa Barbara dweeb was posted on their like he was Che Guevara

          • Yes. They are shock jocks, to put it nicely. They are many of the same morons who populate /pol/ or 8chan and whine about PC and gamergate. It’s as non-PC as they can be.

    • What the fuck… How many cowardly little bitches around the country are planning this kind of bull shit.

      Should we not send our kids to school tomorrow? Wtf

        • I don’t have an answer. Apparently instead of raging against the machine now kids bottle it up and snap, after plenty of anonymous encouragement from others on internet forums.

          • I think part of the problem is many people in the younger generation don’t talk. Everything is digital and it’s easy to be an Internet tough guy. If they were to actually sit in a room and talk to people they know about this idea that their having about randomly going and killing a bunch of people, they probably say that’s kinda messed up and you probably shouldn’t do it.

            Say it in an online forum and its easy to say amongst a bunch of other anti social little maniacs and its encouraged.

            The post where the person tells the killer should tell everyone their just being taken hostage, herd into a corner then open fire makes my stomach turn. It’s like the punk kids with their head sets playing call of duty are waging real life wars.

            So messed up

          • I’ve never been big on “blame the music, blame tv/movies, blame video games, but I have a hunch most of the dipshits in that message board blast each other away for hours per day in online multiplayer shooters. That shits so realistic and just rots their brains.

          • Me neither and not gonna lie: premarriage I played quite a bit of GTA, watched beavis and butthead, listened to Metallica (before getting into punk and then hip hop) and whatever else has been blamed, but it was always physically with friends. Talking to kids in the late teens and early 20’s can be like pulling teeth. Always itching to grab phones like it’s their next fix.

            Shits cray

          • something changed in the last 10-15 years. I look at guys younger than me and I want to smack them. IDK what has happened but some of them are the most egotistical, self centered, entitled little assholes I’ve ever encountered. If you’re younger than 30, don’t take offense. i said some, not all. I may come off as a prick around here, but that’s my schtick. In real life, I take care and protect what’s left of my family. I’d also give you the shirt off my back if i thought you needed it. There are some seriously fucked up people in this world. And it saddens me that my kids are going to be left with a society worse off than the one I grew up in.

          • Is it worse? Or are we more paranoid?

            I wasn’t told to run from stranger danger until we moved stateside. Then me and my parents had that talk. That was 40+ years ago.

            Perhaps defunding state hospitals and super-funding prisons isn’t working?

          • Attitude and self-entitlement instead of genuine self-confidence, respect for others and respect for self. The first two are so much easier to practice and don’t have to be earned.

            As you say, its not everyone, but it is common.

          • to my knowledge no link has every been made between video games and violence, but I will say this: The youth of today don’t need video game to see violence, they see it every day on the news and on their feeds. And whatever the fuck is happening in this world is spreading, and its ugly and its sad. That’s the life they face. thats the life we gave them. That’s the world we show them and our society grows ever more divisive every day.

            from Fear the Walking Dead, which I’m afraid we all become:

            “When the world ends, it ends fast”

            Think about it. 20-30- 40years, hell 200! is NOTHING in the timeframe of man, and look what we’ve done with it

          • Information and technological boom. It’s probably the most exciting time for man. Just sit back, make some popcorn, and enjoy the show.

            Not to say this isn’t tragic and I’m deeply saddened by this. Think historically here, first worlds have curbed crime way better than any other generations thanks to better means of enforcing them, societal views, and obviously technology. And… then you look at other less developed countries and its more reflective of our true nature. People can do anything under any given circumstance.

            Now, I do believe that there are the down sides to technology that we are just now beginning to witness. Primarily, the promotion of anti-social behavior in the young generations. People are biologically programmed to be social, almost a necessity to well-being as is water and food.

            Then you think about our modern views and how new they are as well. This is just the evolution of our generations. Whatever we feel is good/bad about our past people’s is just and opinion as our future generations will think.

            Anyways, I could ramble on forever.

          • It’s also the dumbest age of media as well. How many images of violence does anyone take away from the last 15 years? Does everyone think war is just a place where people go and come back instant heroes they can run up to and “thank” for their service? Meanwhile the physical and emotional toll of actually seeing what war is leaves lasting scars that the same people who gush public thanks in your face will deny you proper help because they can’t be bothered to sacrifice anything of their own for whatever fight it is they think we are in at the moment.

            I used to watch Fox News Channel because I thought it was just giggles and gaggles of really really stupid people all saying the exact same words in different screechy voices, and that nobody couldn’t see it. I mean who can not see that? It’s like one show just hands the next show the same script.

            But then I started to realize that imaginary boogie men and whiny apologists for greed who drive people like cattle with imaginary stories of said imaginary boogie men were actually controlling the narrative.

            Is there any wonder some emotionally disturbed man thinks there are imaginary boogie men out to get him? And what do we do to take care of the imaginary boogie men according to the script?

          • LOL … and “real life wars” are more rational? Dont think so. War on Iraq? War on Vietnam? And our “good” wars were to stop someone who themselves had started an irrational war.

            Face it, humans have always behaved this way. It is obviously hard wired into us, genetically. So it aint gonna stop until we evolve…..if that can happen before we destroy ourselves thru overpopulation, habitat destruction, etc….

          • Imo most real life wars are more rational outside of the “good ones”: driven by greed, quests for power and other alterior motives. I disagree with all those reasons but can see why other greedy fucks who think their untouchable could get behind them.

            I see no rationale in loading up some guns and going to blast away a bunch of high school, college, or grade school kids then offing yourself.

          • Not true. But you knew it was coming, because that’s how the narrative is controlled. “Stay in your lanes. Nothing special to see here, because it’s what I always told you it would be. It’s darky coming to get us.”

            The truth is he was a mentally unstable man who identified as a Conservative Republican who might have thought organized religion was the darky coming to get him. But he was also a mental mess full of many contradicting thoughts. Black Lives Matter is wrong, and killing cops is conflated with their message according to him. Yet he goes and commits suicide by cop? He identifies as a Conservative Republican, yet he celebrates the IRA, a socialist organization?

            The story is one of mental health and the ease of access to a highly subsidized weapons industry. We’re not going to find any rational thought in this, let alone the screeching spin-machine trying to take it out on their imaginary boogey men.

          • Ahhh… I see where that spin comes from. Apparently the guy asked people their religion so he could mock them as he shot them. He would ask, “What’s your religion?” Then he told them they were about to meet their deity. He didn’t single anyone out. He was just twisted enough to think he was being funny.

            Of course, the overwhelming answer in Roseburg is going to be Christian or no answer. But the spin machine needs to find a way to keep being the victim here.

          • Are you really that tone deaf?

            Darkie is the imaginary boogey man keeping us from keeping Murika great. He’s the Mexican taking your jobs… that the employers don’t give them… because they must be stolen. He’s the terrorist who is coming to make you marry a gay person and have abortions galore… after he makes you have a sex change… or something.

            He is who the site you link above and several like it tell you to hate and be fearful of on a daily basis in order to control you. I’m not saying you directly. Because I know you would never be that fucking stupid as to be led down that path. I mean “you” as the general you/we/us… idiots in general who flock to those sites and think they really are French models.

          • Btw… there are equally kooky sites that say the exact same words but point fingers at whitey instead. That doesn’t make them different in any way other than skin color. The whole concept is scare tactic devised to divide and conquer. I won’t link it, but Melanoid Nation is one. And please stop linking these pol-hack blogs. The last thing we need is for some of them to follow reference links back to this page. They are all vile humans who will make the worst of us look like Tinkerbell.

      • 4chan isn’t “evil” by any means. It’s a haven for ALL the general population, and it has boards for almost any interest. No different than reddit, except for the fact that it is almost entirely uncensored, with anonymity.

    • It’s pretty cool that Osborne gives credit to the opposition there. They just flat got beat on the play.

      But I do wonder why you pull that trick out when winning by so much. Now it can’t be used with that effect in some future situation.

        • Good point. A couple thoughts.

          One is, you can only pull a play like that when you see the opponent coverage guys are not watching the flight of the ball. Is that the usual case for coverage guys? I never watched for that.

          Another is, now that they showed it, ALL opponents are aware of it, and now the coverage guys will be watching the flight of the ball, just to make sure, and not going as all out as when they dont watch… So it could have a beneficial effect in all coming games.

          And I suspect they observed the Duck coverage guys not watching — you cant pull that play if they are, so its not a trick play you can use anytime you want.

  32. General thread, so more fun with the Ducks given there’s no Beaver game this weekend. I have not appreciated what a mess they appear to be (at least statistically). And the coaching staff once again using the injury excuse after a loss, though Adams claims it isn’t an issue.

    http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/275375-151237-no-pointing-fingers-but-can-ducks-stretch-the-field-or-score-or-rally-if-they-have-to

    If CU even makes it a close game, it will be hard for the _uck faithful.

    http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/275375-151237-no-pointing-fingers-but-can-ducks-stretch-the-field-or-score-or-rally-if-they-have-to

    Go Buffs!

    Jack, do you see what Jason did there with the title? : )

    • I don’t understand how you even consider playing a QB with a broken index finger on his throwing hand. The morale issues alone are mind-boggling. Who makes that decision?

      • And didn’t they already say that Vernon shouldn’t play due to Sickle Cell Anemia and the potential health risks playing in Mile High could have on him?

        Sad state of affairs being that the Mighty Ducks need to risk they health of their tiny 5’10” mercenary QB to beat lowly Colorado…

  33. On another topic, Beaver football related. I had been upset with my perception that OSU has received the short end of the stick on holding calls in games against major conference teams this year and other years as well. It seemed to me that a bogus holding call cost us a touchdown and for sure took back a big run by Collins against Stanford. Versus Michigan I saw 2-3 plays where Michigan was obviously holding and it was not called (it does not require an expert to see offensive arms wrapped around a defender). I am not trying to say these missed calls lead to the defeats, it is just disheartening to see the poor officiating.

    We have dealt with one of the best deceptive holding teams in the ucks for years. The actual official decision of holding is subject to interpretation.

    This has caused some displeasure in me and I started thinking of what could be a solution to the problem. One possible solution I came up with was maybe we could get rid of holding calls and allow holding with the traditional personal fouls still applying. I am not advocating for this rule change just thought it was an interesting way of trying to solve the problem. If fact, the more I have thought about it the more I am against it.

    What thoughts do you all have? Is my perception of us getting the short end of the stick way off? Pros and cons of getting rid of the holding penalty?

    • The rules seem to have been tilted to the help the offense anyway. Allowing the offense to hold would essentially make playing defense impossible.

      There are some teams where it looks like their downfield blocks by receivers are awfully close to holding.

      • I saw an article recently in reference to NFL receivers blocking defenders downfield BEFORE the ball has been received, which also should be illegal, but is almost never called. Honestly I had never noticed, but it was very blatant.

        I need to pay closer attention but it wouldn’t surprise me to see it in the college ranks as well. The problem is on tv you rarely get a good shot of the entire play.

        • I love the commentator at around 20-25 seconds in who says “wait, one more now” then makes a derp derp type sound effect. It’s quiet, but just hilarous.

          Also funny that in this 2 minute clip, there are only about 20 seconds of actual baseball action happening, and the rest of the time the broadcast focused on the girls focusing on themselves.

      • Now, now – there are tweeters who labelled the announcers “cruel.” I thought the announcers were hilarious and loved the commentary – especially “welcome to parenting 2015.” Although, one person tweeted they were exactly who she didn’t want her daughter to be. Does it seem to anyone else that they all look alike?

        I’ve noticed that when attending baseball games – perhaps because it can be slow at times – people do babble inconsequentially. My worst experience: a family sitting in back of me at a Beaver baseball game. The guys went to get beer and the women started in on how difficult it was to get into a certain hairdresser in their town. I’m working on politeness, so I didn’t turn around and ask if they’d ever heard of GreatClips. I did, however, move.

        • Baseball is a game where you can relax and enjoy the sights and sounds without really missing the action on the field. The action isn’t constant and making noise doesn’t really change the game.

          All involved were having fun. The announcers did a good job of not putting them down, just a little teasing.

  34. There’s an article on O-Live that states that Ryan Nall has lost 15 lbs from his 240 lb tight-end weight. I think that bodes well for him. He’s a pretty fast guy and it will help his knees and ankles.

    • Something else related i thought was nice to see, a family member of the ex-military guy who saved numerous lives yesterday while taking 7 bullets has put together a gofundme to help cover his uocoming medical bills (you’d think the hospital would eat the cost regardless because of the circumstances)

      Have to admit, watching how quickly the donations are growing put a lump in my throat….nice job people.

      https://www.gofundme.com/s75ge9y4

    • For those that don’t follow the WBB team, Rueck picked up a verbal from the #42 player in the 2016 class this off season. Rated top perimeter shooter in the class.

      • Quatre, you referring to Kat Tudor? We’re in the running for some serious players in Pivec, Ionescu, and Madison Washington. Ionescu would be amazing!

        • Agreed AKBeav, Ionescu would be another level signing. Grabbing any one of those 3 ladies to pair with Tudor and Katie McWilliams would be insane. Rueck is flat out ballin if he can make it happen. My only concern with WBB moving forward is depth in the middle. Green or Thropay is really going to have to pan out after Ruth moves on next year.

  35. Since it’s an open topic thread, anybody here know of a fool proof way to eliminate toenail fungus? A friend of mine wants to know….

    • Wouldn’t know about toenails, but apple cider vinegar is the most common anti-fungal I know of. Not sure how to dilute/use it or if it’s sure-fire, though.

        • Tea tree oil man, start putting it on your toes nails and try and put drops under the nail twice a day. Let it dry before putting on your socks. ACV is also great, one tbsp in 8 oz of water twice a day is good. I’ve had friends be successful with baking soda paste on their toes as well.

    • Outside of cutting off your toes or taking nasty prescription medication there isn’t much that can be done. Say goodbye to the flip flops.

      • Have you seen the ads for that fungus med?

        ‘Side effects may include: stroke, high blood pressure, constipation, impotence, and blindness, in rare instances death can occur.’

        I asked my RN wife what that shit is because none of those sound great. I think no flip flops and maybe even the toe removal may be a better choice.

        • The side effects, anything remotely possible, are mentioned because its a liability issue. But most are very unlikely to occur. I used some kind of meds, with similar disclaimers and it worked. Dont know what you mean by no flipflops…. once you have the fungus, exposure is unimportant. If you dont treat the fungus, you eventually lose the nails, as I understand it. And there was pain associated with mine, so I really wanted it gone. Tried all the topical shit and no effect. But the meds did the job and no recurrance. The nails thickened before the fungus left and now like chisels but they grow again.

    • I had the toenail fungus, got in the tropics and it was nasty. Had to do meds (pills) but cant recall the name of it. Was years ago.

      All external remedies are questionable — the fungus is under the nail and pretty much immune to stuff applied externally.

  36. Hahaha ESPN picking Illinois to beat Nebraska as their Upset Special. Yet another example of how “respected” Riley really is #TPB

  37. I don’t care too much for Ted Miller, but

    BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

    Braden writes: Given Oregon’s struggles this year, it’s got me wondering, are we beginning to see the results of Mark Helfrich-era recruiting? Or are we just seeing bad scheming by the coaches? Or something else completely? It’s baffling to me to think that a QB hasn’t been groomed knowing that someday Mariota would be gone. It’s obvious the VA/Lockie experiment isn’t producing the fruits we’ve become used to seeing. Who’s next?

    Ted Miller: Who’s next?

    I see a lake of burning sulfur and demons rising from its depths as the great seal is broken. I see four horsemen — a Husky, a Trojan, a Ute and a Beaver. I see death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth. I see a horrific massacre of Ducks. I see Duck confit, roast duck. I see Peking duck and duck a l’orange. I see a grinding of duck bills and much gnashing of teeth. Oh, the horror.

    But lo, there is a light! There’s a very distinguished looking man… he looks familiar. He is beloved by all! He turns his head — not unlike dramatic chipmunk! — and says, “Thou shall chill out. Please.”

    Oregon is 2-2 having lost to a pair of very good, unbeaten teams. The Ducks are out of the national polls in September/October when national polls are OH SO DARN IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS IN ALL CAPS! They got their rear ends pummeled by Utah, worst home defeat since falling 54-0 to Washington in 1977.

    Cry me a river. (I suspect that a significant percentage of young Oregon fans who read the above paragraph and went, “Wait. We’ve lost to Washington before? That’s weird.”)

    Let’s start with this: Did Oregon fans believe that their Ducks would win at least 10 games every season in perpetuity? Would it really be a disaster if Oregon finished 8-4 this year? Would it spell the end of an era? And/or should that put Mark Helfrich on the hot seat?

    Braden, you are “baffled” that a QB hasn’t been groomed to replace Mariota, a QB, by the way, who attended Oregon only because he was discovered by Helfrich. Go ask an Alabama or Texas fan about QB bafflement. You should be more baffled that the Ducks have been so consistently good at the position this century.

    Know what I think? I think Oregon, at the very least, would be 3-1 and highly ranked if Vernon Adams didn’t break his finger. And I also think that overreacting to a grain of sand finding its way into one of college football’s well-oiled machines — while entirely predictable based on the irrational greed of an entitled fan base — is, well, sort of funny.
    It’s probably unrealistic to expect Mark Helfrich and Oregon to win more than 10 games and be ranked in the top 10 every year. Mark J. Terrill/AP Photo

    Last year, Helfrich and his staff turned in one of the great coaching jobs you will witness. Yes, it helped to have an all-time great behind center, but the Ducks — a nontraditional power playing in a a 54,000-seat stadium — played for a national title in the inaugural College Football Playoff despite near-catastrophic injuries throughout the season.

    Oregon is 0-1 in conference play. This is not yet a Duck-ocalypse.

    Oregon fans, be grateful, be hopeful. And stop whining.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/92422/mailbag-oregon-panic-usc-overrated-colorado-hope

  38. I went to UCC. Played basketball for the Timbermen. Had classes where this happened.

    One of my buddies is a professor there. It was a rough morning waiting to hear from him.

    You never really know what you would do if this happened. I’d like to think I’d have rushed the guy like Chris Mintz did. But again that easy to say as I sit here in my recliner with a hot cup of coffee in my hand. So thankful he was there and had the balls to fight.

    Proud of our Universities for the outward expression of support. Surreal seeing images of one alma mater with the name of the other on their helmets.

  39. as we are sitting back and laughing about Nebraska’s predictable misfortunes, how about those Texas Longhorns????? Special teams miscues lead to two losses and now getting straight skull fucked by TCU 37-0 at halftime.

  40. I would pay serious money to see Colorado do the quacks tonight and the ensuing bandwagon meltdown

    Illinois Neb game: I have never seen Riley chew gum so furiously. Dude’s gonna bite his tongue off

  41. Start of the 4th quarter, and the Nebraska meltdown has begun. Illini marched down the field and hit a wide open WR for 20yd TD. One score game.

  42. #ThankyouNebraska so glad I don’t have to sit through those time mismanagements, penalties, and poor defense. Third time is a charm or a trend?

  43. Illinois scores with 10 seconds left. But we’re all idiots according to nut butter

    beavbutter says:
    October 2, 2015 at 9:05 pm
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    yeah, go ahead and go with ESPN on that pick…put all your money on it…and lose your ass..Illinois is gawd awful

    beavbutter says:
    October 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm
    Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

    My point is that is a ridiculous pick by ESPN…I teased Nebraska even and Ole Miss -1..that is where the money is…ya’ll need to listen to butter and cash in on that.

    Hope no one listened. You really need to stop with the Riley love. I may not know a good coach when I see one, I but can pick out a shitty one plain as day. Dude used to be a decent coach, now he’s awful. And Nebraska’s problem.

    • Illinois was pretty awful, I’ll give butter credit there.

      But he didn’t account for Banker’s patented prevent(the win) end-game D. No one does it quite the same…

      • I won’t give him any credit. Illinois being awful or not, how many times did we see Riley’s teams playing down to competition while they were here?

  44. Mike Riley losing a game to an inferior team where the opposition looked like they had no business being in the game for long stretches. Feel like I’ve seen this script before

  45. Here’s the real question, how does Riley turn this one around on the players. Didn’t make a ton of mistakes. This one was completely obvious to anyone that watched the game it all lands on the coaching and play calling.

    • “‘GOAT, on 03 Oct 2015 – 4:46 PM, said:
      Now i see why OSU fans were happy to see these guys go’
      A coach with a 3-8 record should never be hired as Head coach at Nebraska.”

    • Asked if the Huskers will get to a bowl game-

      FrustratedHuskerFan says:
      “No you really want these clowns getting to a bowl game and getting contract extensions”

      The deja vu is real. Quick, someone grab the “angryhuskers.com” domain.

  46. Overnight, Riley’s seat is on fire. Lot of pretty amusing comments, but here’s the most poignant for me:

    BIG ERN
    All American

    Members
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    Posted Today, 05:51 PM
    Run, Run = first down. Then pass, pass, pass = punt. ALL FU**ING GAME WE DID THIS

    #thanksnebraska

    • Nooooo!!! That’s not correct. Riley runs a balanced offense. I can show data that says so.

      I guess it’s not really funny. I can’t have any sympathy for them because empathy gets in the way.

  47. Gotta hand it to Biley. They’ve pulled the hat trick for epic heartbreaking losses. Not sure I’ve even seen that when they were here

  48. Are the players even going to voluntarily ride on the bus with Riley and Banker? How do you let Riley on the bus after that ridiculous snatching of defeat? First Husker coach to lose to the Illini in 90 years. Epic fail to be having a losing season at Nebraska and left with a full cupboard of talent.

    Riley has been a chump loser since 2008 and deserves NU fans wanting to cut bait. An aging Riley clinging to a Langsdork offense and dinosaur Banker defense is headed nowhere faster than even the wisest critics imagined. This is some serious bed shitting. Good ole PoopyPants Riles in fully spoiled knickers.

  49. Quote on husker board spot on

    “You want to know why Riley is always called a nice guy? Because when you have nothing else positive to say about a person you say….”well he was a nice guy” Other coaches love him because he is an easy win. “

  50. yep, there’s some great stuff on Huskerboard tonight. Too bad Angry’s not around today. The reaction of their fans now only 5 games in is TOTAL vindication of the AB critique: questionable play calling, poor clock management, blaming the players. Hoping some tech savvy AB-er can link to Riley’s post game press conference. That should be GOLD.

  51. Another quote from Husker board:
    Phone going nuts with texts. Probably from OSU and Penn St fans. I hate them. The other texts are from relatives who want to make sure I am not drinking bleach.

  52. Just got back from shopping and saw the game summary for Nebraska-Illinois.

    …That prevent D reminds me of two years ago against the Ducks. And I’m so happy we’re officially done with that crap.

    In a just world, Eichorst would be out of a job pretty soon. But watch as he buys into the Riley voodoo and starts making excuses for him.

    • My fantasy scenario of what would happen to Riley at NU could not be better than this!

      But fuck this quote from the article.

      “Oregon State fans might forgive and forget these sorts of gut punches. Nebraska fans have longer memories.”

      We never forgave anything here at AB, we tried to tell the college football world and only the select few would listen, so fuck you Ted Miller and fuck you Ken Goe and fuck you Dwight Jaynes….on and on.

  53. http://nebraska.247sports.com/Board/142/Contents/Live-Thread-Illinois-vs-Nebraska-39917052?Page=30#M39949127

    Original Post: silverstream055 said… Oregon State fans were trying to tell you, but you had to see for yourself. If the last few weeks didn’t convince you, this week should have done the trick. Mike Riley is not the guy to bring Nebraska football back to the promised land. Riley did not win big at OSU (or in the NFL) and he won’t win big at Nebraska, either. Yes, Riley is a nice guy, but he does not run a disciplined football program, and he is a poor in-game manager. Some of Mike’s long-time cronies are even worse (especially Mark Banker, who kept his job as Defensive Coordinator at OSU only because of Riley’s support, and who is simply in over his head as DC at Nebraska). The only question is how long Nebraska fans and administrators are going to let this go on before giving Riley, Banker, et al their walking papers. My initial estimate was two years, but starting to doubt that now….

    Reply from “Landohusker” (long-time poster to Husker board): “You and Angrybeav were correct. We were warned, hoped for the best, now he done”

    • I think the point that Husker Nation is still missing (but slowly starting to realize) is what a poor in-game manager Riley is. I would not characterize it as not “winning big”, but more as losing games that he could have won. I think Riley and staff recruited some very good talent and should have won a couple of P-12 championships. I have always maintained that despite the “you can’t win in Corvallis” mantra, Riley and staff underachieved over and over during this tenure. He will underachieve again at Nebraska.

  54. Remember everyone, this 2-3 Husker squad is better than any of Riley’s Oregon State squads! I mean, he said so himself!

    Bet he wants that one back.

    Now to turn the duckie game on for a hopeful schadenfreude dessert

    • I bet he doesn’t, he think his players are the reason hes a shitty coach. He just threw his starting quarterback under the bus.

      Who does that!? Seriously? Who does that!!!

  55. I kind of want to find Dennis Erickson and kick him in the balls. I sometimes wonder where this program would be if that bastard had just stayed and created a legacy instead of chasing NFL mediocrity again. Realistically, there would have been some ups and downs, but I bet there would have been more ups.

      • I read somewhere that he said “leaving OSU was the worst mistake” he ever made…I think it was right after he got fired at San Francisco.

        • Just before he was hired at Utah, I posted here that I thought the Beavs should hire him, maybe as Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator but was negatived by most users…hmmm I think Utah is playing OK now.

          • this is also their 5th season in a power 5 conference. Which means more revenue, bigger budget and 5 years of recruiting and getting better talent than they did in the Mountain West. Probably has more to do with that than anything. But what do I know? They do have a pretty good coaching staff (obviously).

            Just look at the Buffs. They’ve been here just as long and haven’t done shit. But they were also in bad bad shape when they joined. That was/is a total dumpster fire rebuild. Utah was not. I’m not certain that McIntyre is the guy that will get it turned around in Boulder. One or two more losing seasons and he will get canned

    • Hard to tell, they said they wanted to play together, however if that was the case why not announce at the same time? It feels like he is going to commit here. But others think not. Maybe by announcing tonight that he is going to Okie that strengthens his commitment to us??

  56. I don’t think Ive ever entertained myself as much on a bye week as I have tonight just reading the Husker boards and blogs. Its absolutely the best entertainment among a great day of underdog college football wins.

  57. As it’s been said somewhere before .. Those poor bastards.

    Starting to actually feel bad for Riley too. He’s looking like a sad grandpa who keeps getting mugged and then try’s to explain what happened.

    • Nebraska fans are trying to start a GoFundMe to fly a Fire Riley banner over the stadiium. Their fans sound downright suicidal.

      • Maybe we should start a gofundme account to fly a “Thank you Nebraska” banner over memorial stadium in Lincoln

          • I don’t know if this is possible though. You all remember the douchebag who got arrested after flying over Reser during graduation, right? At the very least, I think the FAA has to know what you are up to. Someone with more knowledge than I on this can chime on or research it. I’m drunker than shit and enjoying the very little college football I got to watch today. Oh and my Dodgers locked up home field for the NLDS vs the Mets tonight. Going to be difficult to root against Conforto though.

    • Riley ditched us, not the other way around (thank you, thank you, thank you Nebraska. Did I say thank you?). Then Riley ripped on the very athletes that he recruited.He dumped on our great university.
      No tears for Riley. No tears at all. No tears ever.

  58. I wonder if Andersen watches the Nebraska games and says to himself, “Now I get where all the stupid mistakes come from and how the players get dejected and need to learn how to play any type of defense outside of prevent the entire 2nd half.”

  59. Give ’em a break, you can’t recruit to Lincoln…

    Suck it: Ken Goe; Dwight Jaynes; Cliff K, and you other lazy Oregon media bastards.

      • I’d never heard of a program called “Talkin’ Beavers” until recently. I gather Lindsay Schnell is one of
        the presenters. I find that a punch to the face and a kick in the rear to true Beaver fans. I wonder if she will try to explain to Nebraska why they can’t do any better than Riley & Banker.

        As an aside, has anyone ever heard a report about Eli Manning’s time with Langsdorf?

    • he looks and sounds completely lost. It’s like listening to a toddler explain something they have n zero knowledge of. Completely overwhelmed and utterly clueless. He should have just retired and at least could have walked away from the game with some dignity. I’d have respected him more if he had. This is not going to end well. After he gets fired, he will never be a head coach again at a power 5 school.

    • Honest question: Is this really what he consistently sounded like the last few years with the Beavs? I honestly didn’t watch many of his interviews/press conferences, but I don’t remember him sounding that defeated or hopeless.

      • this is absolutely what he sounded like after OSU games, especially the last 3-4 years. Gibberish, incoherence, matched with a certain sense of resentment and anger. Guy has no clue that he and his doofus assistant coaches are the problem. their “we don’t care why should you” attitude infects everything they touch. the latest sensation is the NEB lineman who was seen walking off the field yesterday smiling and saying, “we suck,’ implying “get used to it.”

    • It has this, “oh crap, these guys are going to grill me” vibe. Riley looks crazy/evil with his head down and eyes up. I never saw him act this way with the Oregon media. He had it so easy in Oregon. I can’t believe he gave that up rather than firing Banker.

      He throws his QB under the bus. Then they ask something like, “What was your reaction to that play” and he says “surprised…whatever”…

      Whatever? Those poor bastards…

      See you guys on Tuesday.

  60. Angry – The msg count is at 585 now. How about a new thread?

    Oh, and thanks Nebraska. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Hahahahahahah

  61. Buffs gearing up to pull a Utah on Oregon tonight. Oregon has absolutely no passing game and are down to their 3rd string qb. Grab your popcorn. Wish this was at Autzen again

    • that 3rd string QB has looked better than VA or Lockie in what little I’ve seen of him. I’ve not seen any of their game tonight though

  62. Utah is definitely a Top 8 team. Who has no business even in the Top 18 is Georgia. Every year they are ranked a good 10 spots higher in the polls than they should be. It is done to make a couple other teams from the SEC show up in the Top 10 but is almost always a joke. They get beat by half the teams from the west even at home. They only have a breakthrough season once every 15+ years. Yet every year they spend a few weeks ranked between 5th and 8th in the nation when they aren’t very good and only a minor concern to the real contenders.

    • Stanford is playing Top 10 ball as well. They have a clear path to the North crown as California faces a gauntlet to end the season. Playing at Northwestern in Week 1 is a tough win. They grow their grass there twice as tall as anywhere else. Shaw has them smelling blood again with Oregon in obvious decline.

  63. Zona’s D is so bad Stanford’s backup is in the game and just threw a TD pass. 55-17 Trees in the 4th. I’m not sayin the Beavs will win next Saturday but I expect it to go better than the last road trip

    • It would be a huge win and being on the road would really set the tone and give a lot of confidence moving forward. Great confidence going into the Palouse.

    • I think there is some optimism going down there, with some of their top players out might help us. Arizona for sure doesn’t have a ton of confidence. Beat downs to Ucla and now stanford. I think with the week off to get health and work on some things we could go down there and compete. Maybe get some breaks we have a shot in that game.

      I was not impressed by the Az DB’s, I think we should be able to throw on them. Their pass rush was decent when they brought pressure but they couldn’t stay with anybody in the secondary.

      Randle looks like he is getting better with the more experience he gets, so that is a question mark.

  64. Ducks defense looked like Banker’s on that Liufau run.

    EDIT: Woah, they got REALLY lucky with that fumble. They should challenge that.

    • hilarious video on that link, [paraphrasing]: “Its like the coast of Scotland here. Its cold. Its raining. Its blowing. And they (Riley, Langs) threw the ball all day long. Deep passes into the wind. Deep passes with the wind. And they didn’t complete any of them.”

      Left Illinois 50 seconds to score. And they did….

      • Journalist called it the ugliest game he has seen covering NU.

        Not much else to fill ones days in a wasteland like Nebraska except football. Real vitriol headed Riley’s way.

    • I was not a fan of this clown when he was hired and I’m less of a fan now. Isn’t there some sort of damaged goods clause? Husker nation would like to return to sender.

  65. Bummer for Colorado. Looks like they are losing control of the game.
    But they will be a power in the PAC 12 soon. As Utah.
    We thought both schools would be doormats longer and they fooled us.

    • Colorado’s problem is that they just aren’t athletic enough to compete with Oregon right now. There are plenty of cases where Liufau breaks free, but he doesn’t have the speed to really punish the Ducks.

      Combine that with poor tactical decisions (like punting on that 4th and 4), and they’re definitely not very good.

    • Colorado is far from being a “power”. They are still a bottom tier team despite some small steps forward. South has too many other good teams used to the slugfest. Utah, ASU, USC, UCLA. They have work to do to pass anyone in the South. They will probably inch forward but nowhere near a threat. Utah’s program and fan base are on a much higher level right now. They have a number of high profile wins over the last few seasons.

      Said above Oregon was in decline but part of that is an unhealthy QB situation and Adams having some difficulty at times in an elite league and more physical play every week. He has to work around being shorter than most UO QBs.

      That said Oregon should be in the Top 20 this week. They still have a couple burners and are a difficult match against anyone but the most elite programs. Stanford against the Ducks will be a good game and maybe a Pick Em. Both teams are gearing up for that game. Probaly take Tree but only by a very thin margin.

  66. Oregon will be tested at UW in 2 weeks but probably get by. I think they lose after that at ASU. Stanford beats them by a TD two weeks after that. 4 losses. Don’t expect GA to pull the upset on the road this year but maybe next at home. If Shurod Thompson announces to Oregon State next week and joins Wallace then combined with Seth maturing and gaining much experience, OSU could have some real swagger next year like we haven’t seen in awhile.

    • I am not sure if Oregon will beat USC at home either. Wouldn’t favor them by more than a couple points. USC has some good athletes and Oregon has bad pass defense and isn’t at its best against physical teams. Depends how cute Sark tries to get. If he plays a more power style Oregon could lose it. 5 losses is as bad as it can get for them.

  67. Tonight all the girls were punching at the bar. Pretty funny. I held fort with my platoon in the corner and watched the show. They were playing the Oregon game. Man that team needs a few sergeants and a colonel or two. This is the year they miss a bowl.

    The have their sights set on a lower tier bowl as they were before Mariota. Their QB is worse than with Kellen Clemens was the trigger man.

    Beavers will continue to grow as a unit and could start really chopping wood by the end of the season.

    Coach and coach have their men at attention eager to soak up knowledge like a god damn sponge!

    Beavers will stand in and punch all season.

  68. Order of business for Nebraska’s coaches meeting on Sunday:

    #1) Submit your locations wish list for the witness protection relocation program
    #2) Pick up your Kevlar vests before leaving the building
    #3) Make sure to order take out. DO NOT GO OUT to eat. Consider using your pet as a food tester.
    #4) Remote start your vehicles from a safe distance

    • If Riley and his boys had any common sense they would saddle up the posse and head to their San Antone “retirement home” and screw the coaches meeting today, Lincoln ain’t going to be a very hospitable place for their clown show moving forward.

    • WTF, did the P-O guys follow Riley to NE and start up a Pure-Red site?

      “Riley’s plans won’t work very well this year because all the layers were recruited by Bo for his offensive and defensive schemes. We need a better throwing QB who can think quicker and make better reads. We also need a secondary that doesn’t keep looking into the backfield and losing receivers and they have to be able to play up tighter (they may not have that skill). The play calling has been alot better this year by mixing things up a bit more. There here they ave been too many dropped passes, too many bad passes, and some bad decision made by players. Tonight the only really bad play call was the 4th and 7 toward the end when they should have pooch kicked it inside the 10. If the QB would have thrown the ball to the receiver correctly on the 3rd down they would have had a 1st and 10 and put them in a position for a field goal. Overall they have played about as well as should be expected, they have to clean up the mistakes that cause them to lose at the end. Not letting a receiver run right by you and be wide open for the first touchdown. Get in front of the desperation pass and stop throwing off the back foot and just relying on arm strength alone. Don’t forget the players are all a bunch of young kids playing a game”

    • I’m beginning to like Speed Freak over on that board, he explains why angry was banned, “because he spoke the truth about this coaching staff and no one here wanted to hear it” Another poster chimes in, “Koolaid drinkers didn’t want to face reality, and thus, complained about him incessantly.”

      But, when are they gonna also credit silver?

  69. Ready to see GA having the team put it all together for 4 quarters. Need consistent high energy focused on winning and disciplined play. Have a lot of confidence in the defense at secondary next year if Shurod joins this team. Corners have been pretty good but Shurod will make safety a position of strength as well and combined with Wallace these two are threat for returning interceptions the other way in a hurry.

    GA though has to get Baldwin delivering good play calling in every quarter. If anything we would be best served by a win the 3rd quarter mentality. Team had been starting games well but losing focus when coming out in the 2nd half. That needs to change to win 2-3 games in league and set up for a much stronger 2016.

  70. Sign of the end times??
    Lindsay tweets, “Ooof.” with a link to the “Pin this loss on MR and DL” story from the Omaha paper and linked above by CorVegas Comeback.

  71. Watched men’s soccer against San Diego State today. A larger crowd than I expected of 300-400. They seem like a pretty decent team (although I have no idea of the quality around the rest of the country). They were tough to break down defensively and had a lot of breakaway chances against SDSU. The Beavs missed a penalty kick, but the player who missed it rectified his blunder with a goal a few minutes into the second half. Which ultimately turned out to be the game winner in the 1-0 match.

    The PA announcer mentioned in pre-game that Oregon State was #19 in the polls, which probably sounds about right. San Diego didn’t seem like they were that good of a team; they were fairly sloppy and made quite a few bad passes that went straight to OSU guys, but again, I have no clue of the talent level in D1 soccer.

    All in all, it was not a bad time, even if I could feel my light, Scandinavian skin burning in the sunshine. Now, fire away with all your soccer hate, and tell me how I just wasted 90 minutes of my life!

    • In an unusual weather flip, I stood through wind and rain to watch a youth soccer game in Bend. Ooops, that was Saturday, not today.

    • Why would anyone rail against a game that lasts 100 minutes with only a ten minute half… on a Sunday… a day we gather around televisions to watch a much more exciting game that lasts about four hours but only has about 15 to 20 minutes of actual live action?

  72. Anybody know what it costs to rent a plane to tow a banner in nebraska? Maybe if we all chipped in a few bucks we could have them fly a “Thank you Nebraska! Angrybeavs.com” banner over their next home game in Lincoln?

    • The dude in Albany (that did the commencement flight) looks like he only charges a few hundred $…Found someone in Nebraska that does aerial advertising, sent a note, when I get a quote I’ll let you know what they say

    • Ha that would be hilarious, but at the end of the day, only shitheads like Duck fans do shot like that. One can dream though…..

      • Oh stop. You can’t be a real fan if you don’t love love love Bike Smiley. Why, this team he leads now could beat the best team he ever had at OSU. I have a hard time with that statement because it’s just a shitty thing to say about your former players.

        But the hardest part is wondering which team he would coach for that match-up. It would be a non-con game. His best teams always started 1-3, losing the first conference game always (we don’t play four non-con games). So whichever team he would be coaching would be the loser. He might be right about that crappy statement if he was still the coach here.

        Get ready. He’s going to rattle off four or five wins in a row, beating some good teams. And the Pollyannas will come out of the woodwork with their, “See! It works if you just give him time,” crap. Then he’ll be on the verge of taking the next step… and fall down the stairs… and get to play in El Paso or Las Vegas for a bowl game.

        And it will happen again next year… and the year after that. He will lose lose lose to start the season. He will win win win in the middle of the season. He will peter principle the end of the season. And ten years later you will still hear that he just doesn’t have the players on his roster to run what we all know works, a pro-power system (whether it’s out of the pro set or the spread). He will win some games because he powers up the middle. And then he will out-think himself and abandon the run when it’s working… and lose.

        It’s just so frustrating.

        But nothing will prepare you for the games where the team just gives up. I can put up with frustrating dumb play calls, lousy clock management (that will never change, btw… you will yell at your TV or the field, along with thousands, over that… a lot) and a D that looks like it just doesn’t get it. You will marvel at how good the offense looks one week and how it looks lost the next (if not from half to half).

        And if you’re losing at the half… go home or turn off the TV. Save your blood pressure and make your wife happy by taking her out during a game. Even better, if your wife is also a fan, save your wife. Look up his numbers when leading/tied/losing at the half. I’ve run the numbers before. He has won four games when losing at the half. Four.

    • Holy Shit…….is “Patience Grasshopper” defending the Bill Callahan era???? Gum Chomper is causing the whole state of Nebraska to lose their fucking minds in 5 short weeks! Well done, MR!

      • I don’t know why they got rid of Solich. Yeah, he broke the consecutive bowl season streak. So there’s a “first in my lifetime” thing Riley won’t do for NU fans. But he had one rough season and bounced back. It really wasn’t his fault they lost to Miami in 2001. They shouldn’t have been within 3000 miles of that game after the CU trouncing anyway.

        Since then they’ve gone with guy who couldn’t cut it in the NFL, a smart MIke Stoops and a neat deal. They could have kept Solich and the NU way and groomed someone or set up their program in such a way that they would have been ready to hire a power coach when Solich left on his own terms.

        NU was the team that lost the most when roster and ship reductions took place and the internet became a tool for evaluations rather than local connections. Though, I guess the same could have been said of Miami. But Miami was eventually going to kill itself because of its culture. You can’t stockpile talent by gathering a hundred walk-ons and culling the dead weight any more. And you can’t give a free ride to a million kids just to keep some from going elsewhere.

        Here’s a stupid stat: NU has never had a 1000 yard receiver. There’s a positive first Riley is bound to do… maybe.

  73. Nebraska/Illinois replay in 60 on at 7pm (Pacific Time) on the B1G network for those that want to relive the Riley magic. I’m fairly certain nutbutter and turd stabber will be watching with kleenex and lotion on stand by

  74. Dooods, a couple nuggets via the radio driving out of Chicago last night.

    The radio guys for Wisconsin were all over GA for their O line struggles this year due to his lack of or poor recruiting for that position. Something to keep an eye on. They have no depth this year for the first time since forever. No linemen committed so far for this year for us.

    Caught the the last fifteen minutes of “Big Red Reaction” on the Husker radio network. It’s a call in show. Pure gold! They really like their new coach’s game management skills. Their AD is going to be in some deep shit for that hire. There was one true believer who still thought “we are going to win the B1G and go to the Rose Bowl this year.”

    • I am a die hard NE fan, and we are not doing shit with Riley. He blows, and his buddies he brought with him suck worse. I bet OSU is relieved to have Riley, Banker, and Reed the hell out of Corvallis. I’m a Beaver fan by marriage (wife OSU alum), but am less than impressed by him. Game management is terrible, our special teams sucks, and there are numerous players that should be playing but aren’t because of some weird reason. Every game has something different where Riley just gives you a head scratching moment. But he is a nice guy right????

      Good Luck this year! Hopefully you guys can get it going. Not sure what you are getting with GA, but it has to be better than Riley. Go Big Red, and Go Beavers!

  75. What’s your honest opinion on beaverblitz? I was thinking about getting it because I’m a recruiting junkie
    Is Angie really that much of an insider?

    • Other people can field this one, but one word of advice. If you do sign up, go for the monthly and call to cancel before the next month. I can almost guarantee rivals will offer you several more months for free to try it out. I’m on month #11 now and have only paid for one of those. They won’t let you walk away without a fight.

    • A fair example of the value you’ll get if you subscribe.

      Today’s feature is their first “Watch List” for 2016 recruits. Basically 8 guys they think you should keep an eye on. Compare it to the list I put in the Wallace thread back on Sept 25th. All but one guy is in my list from 2 weeks ago, and that one guy hasnt had any OSU news since April 3rd. I wont list the names here, but very similar and has a similar write up(or less) about each guy listed.

  76. that’s cool the guys on 247 made that thread. you know, not one guy from ‘the old guard’ ever had the guts to say anything like that to me. in fact, many (*cough* angie machado) act like they wanted riley gone all along. props to the nebraska fans for calling a spade a spade and not having too much pride to admit someone else was right. they did ban me from posting on the forum, so that part is a lie. i could log in, but I could use any of the functionality once logged in. maybe that’s their passive-aggressive way of censoring without feeling awful.

    I think the admin was afraid of losing paid subscribers and caved in to their demands, tbh. This is a major problem with all pay sites.

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