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    • He gets to the line a lot, though.
      I think he’s going to be really good by the end of the year. He’s been showing flashes and just needs more time to put it all together, but he has a well rounded game.

      • Gets his hands on a ton of balls (lol) on defense too. Very active on both ends and not afraid of contact. He’s gonna be real good once the 3 starts falling for him

        • I think he’s trying to figure out what his offensive game is going to be. Not too bad on D but he doesn’t have enough athleticism at this level to do what he did in Montana obviously. The double pumps amd forces have to go. He’s been pretty good at getting to the line thus far but in conference play he’ll get his shot swatted,

          Wish we had Cam Oliver.

    • That game (Valpo) completely pissed me off. We should have won that one by 20. Then again, we should have won by double digits going away today as well.

  1. Nice to see Reid back. Gotta assume he steals a lot of Olaf’s minutes, and so far he’s been a difference maker with a FT and nice rebound/outlet pass that I can’t imagine Olaf pulling off.

    • As soon as I say that, he throws a ball over the Center’s head and then fouls. I guess this is “rust”…

      I still think he’s a huge upgrade over Olaf long term. Olaf is fine end of game/when a 3 is needed.

  2. This teams been having way too many stretches of play where not a single player on the team could throw the ball into the ocean. Very feast or famine on offense. Defense has been much worse defending the 3 too. Not gonna make the tourney if those issues aren’t cleaned up along with the rebounding woes

    • To be fair, the scouting report says let them shoot all day.

      And we’re just starting to get a scoring rotation down. Stevie tore it up in crunch time. Malcolm and Jarmal became factors when nothing else was working.

    • He played a bit in the second, came out with 11:30 left or so and never made it back in. I’d guess it was more a matter of Reid playing well than an injury.

  3. Beavs allowed nev to slash to basket again and again. I thought cheick played decent defense, better than big g. Beavs not really crashin da boards. Nev seemed rather athletic compared to Beavs. Reid can score in post.

  4. I wish we could have gotten Oliver to stick with his commitment to us, that kid can play some ball.

    Best start since 1980-81, that’s stunning.

  5. Tres should not play nearly as much as he should. When he puts his head down, it ends up as either

    1. Charge call
    2. Free throws
    3. Gets his sh*t beat

    Plus he was left in. I don’t know what game you guys are watching, but Olaf has been more effective overall than Tres. He’s more within himself and more in the flow of the offense. It’s irritating when he puts his head down.

    I would’ve rather seen Langston-Olaf-Gary-Cheikh-Malcolm in at the end with Stevie and Drew with possibly subbing in Jarmal. At least Tinkle has a good problem which is depth.

    • Yes, he’s struggling getting quality shots and forcing stuff, like the charges. I’m a bit surprised his leash is as long as it has been thus far. I think he’ll get there, but he’s not on the court with a bunch of short, slow white boys like back in Montana high school, and it shows in his stats.

      • The offense comes to a screeching halt when he gets the ball. In addition, imagine how pissed you would be if you were losing minutes and you are more effective than the guy getting starters minutes. Bruce, Langston, and Olaf all have legitimate arguments.

        Plus a lot of the rotations were weird this game. Why was Jarmal in at the same time as Tres? Why wasn’t Eubanks or N’diaye in near the end? I wish I could pick Tinks’ brain.

    • Disagree, he’s getting the right amount of minutes. Tres needs to adjust his game and he needs floor time to figure it out. His role on the team is much different than what he was in high school. He was the star, now he’s a sub. Shot selection is what he needs to really work on.

      Thompson is adjusting better because his role isn’t that much different than what he did in high school.

      • 27 minutes is far too much to figure it out. 20 max and don’t play him the entire 2nd half, give him some breaks. I’m not saying bench him. He is an important piece of this teams future.

      • Tres is a good looking prospect. Not sure why people are down on him after 7 games. He’s looked great at times, bad at others, which is what you’d expect, but his overall game is balanced and he’s heady. He also looks like he’ll develop into a good leader as he ages.

        His biggest issue right now is finishing when he’s in the lane. He keeps having to settle for FTs, which isn’t bad, but it would be nice to see him finish those plays.

        • I’m not down on him, I think he’s gonna be really good, he has a solid all around skill set. Once he can get his shot under control he should be better off. But his leash is FAR too long for what he is doing. Should he get more minutes than Langston, Jarmal, or Olaf? Absolutely not, not right now until he shows something. He played 17 minutes in the 2nd half, tied with Malcolm for most.

          I also don’t really agree that he has looked “great” at times. Nor heady, at least not consistently. What times are you referring to? I seldom see him consistently finishing without attracting a lot of traffic and getting some lucky foul calls. That’s not heady, because going into a forest of trees isn’t the smartest option. His defense is pretty good though.

      • He had a front row seat in front of the second student section. I saw all the little kids gravitating towards him, and just waited my turn. Got his autograph on my ticket as well, and told him it sucked that the Supersonics would never be able to retire his number.

  6. Pretty poorly officiated game. It was difficult to figure out what they were or weren’t calling. Especially in the first half. No rhyme or reason.

    • No shit! They called little stuff for a while then didn’t call anything for a while. Then little stuff again. Called fouls on Nevada for a while then on the Beavs for a while…no consistency whatsoever during the game.

      Reid’s dunk/foul was right in front of me – the ref blew that call so bad, that even the explanation on radio after the game didn’t get it right.

      2 of the refs were terrible I hope the coaches send the game film to the P12 office.

      • the charge called on Reid was absolute horseshit! And you are correct, the explanation given by the OSU assistant coach that he said the refs gave them made absolutely zero sense. Something about the circle underneath the basket doesn’t matter off of a rebound. Except there was NO FUCKING REBOUND. Those refs were so clueless it was pathetic and at times seemed they had money on Nevada. I think it was coach Thompson that said after the game Nevada was the aggressor on offense and they were rewarded for it. OSU tried it and he stated, um, it just didn’t work out. No shit. I cannot count how many times a Nevada player crashed the boards and came over a beav players back. I don’t know if those refs would have made it out alive had Nevada won.

        And don’t even get me started on the play late in the game where the Nevada player was headed out of bounds under their own basket and threw the ball to FUCKING NO ONE and they awarded the ball to Nevada? After initially calling it OSU ball?

  7. OT: Watching UNC-Clemson, and UNC just got completed jobbed by the refs. Called UNC offside after a successful onside kick, and none of the players were offside. That was PAC-12 level bad. In other words, Stanford’s heading to the Rose Bowl, which means Oregon goes to the Alamo.

    • no it DOES NOT mean Oregon goes to the Alamo bowl. The Alamo may pick between Oregon, USC, Utah and WSU. Bowls are permitted to drop down one spot in the standings if they wish. Oregon played in the Alamo two years ago and in Texas again last year. Would not surprise me to see them take one of the other 3 teams. Utah and USC have never played in the Alamo bowl. WSU was there in 1994.

      • A factor will be the Alamo bigwigs estimate of the appetite of ucks fans for travel to the butthole. Course, uncle phil might pick up enough tickets to have a sellout, but how many hotel/bar tabs will he spring for?

        Whadaya think, Jack? ucks fans got their own butthole closer to home?

        • San Diego is a more likely destination imo. I don’t care what any of the alleged pundits think. Most of these dimwits have Utah heading to Vegas again to play BYU. This does not make Utah happy. I’m certain that would make angry happy however

  8. Two assistants from UW won’t be back, one their sp teams guy (although he also covered D-line).

    Wonder if this means Jonathan Smith’s spot is solid; the departing Brent Pease was receivers coach and has served under Petersen as OC and QB coach. If Petersen had doubts about Jonathan seems he wouldn’t be dumping Pease.

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article48130005.html

    Andersen needs to (an will) focus on his own team, but fans can look at opponents coaching turmoil with some interest. Gophers, ucks, fuskies facing changes for next season. GO BEAVS!

  9. Just 4 games in the next 28 days between now and the civil war on Jan 3. They have finals next week but certainly PLENTY of time to work on defense and rebounding in practice. I am not expecting a win next weekend against Kansas but 9-2 in the non conference looks very doable

  10. OT, but it looks like the Beavs beat a bowl team this year…….San Jose St. is pretty likely to be the third 5-7 team to get a bowl bid after NU and Minny.

    • could be academics

      CORVALLIS — Men’s basketball signee Cameron Oliver will not enroll at Oregon State for the 2014-15 season, Beavers head coach Wayne Tinkle told The Oregonian on Tuesday afternoon.

      “We obviously wish him nothing but the best with his career path, both academically and athletically,” Tinkle said.

      A 6-foot-8, 225-pound power forward out of Sacramento’s Grant High School, Oliver would’ve had a shot at helping fill the void of Sacramento King Eric Moreland. OSU, after all, doesn’t return a big man who logged more than 10.8 minutes per game in 2013-14. Gone are stalwarts Angus Brandt and Devon Collier, who teamed with Moreland to form one of the Pac-12’s top frontcourts.

      Oliver, who missed his entire junior season with a torn ACL, emerged on the recruiting landscape late. He bypassed the early signing period in November, eager to boost his stock with a strong late-season run. Arizona, Arizona State and Missouri showed interest during a breakout final high school campaign in which Oliver led the Pacers to the semifinals of their sectional championships.

      Oliver signed with the Beavers on the first day of the late signing period in April. When OSU fired Craig Robinson in early May after six seasons, Oliver stayed loyal to the Beavers. Much of the summer, Tinkle’s staff expected Oliver to join the team in September.

      from Oregonlive

  11. OT: Muschamp will be recycled at South Carolina. I am so glad we got Andersen.

    Hopefully Sitake does not get the BYU job. That would put a rock in the shoe of the rebuild.

    • Sitake is on everyone’s list, but there are only so many coaches qualified who are LDS AND in good standing with their church. Lots of chatter in Utah, that Whittingham is done with Chris Hill. BYU’s safe pick would be Robert Anae. Some are saying Andy Reid might be interested.

    • While it may be too early to be fair, I’m not sold on Sitake. I imagine he’s a pretty effective recruiter for the defense though. Mendenhall’s departure surprised me, more because of the destination than that he left. He was probably ready for a change.

      If Sitake went to BYU that would make for a lot of “friendly” competition in recruiting (OSU/Utah/BYU).

      Who might Andersen hire if Sitake did leave?

      • I’m not totally sold on Sitake either, but it would be an disruption in recruiting and continuity of the scheme implementation.

      • Hopefully Sitake stays for reasons beavergopher mentioned.

        However, if that do happen, the DC of Utah State, Kevin Clune, that worked with Andersen during his stint in Utah State is a potential

          • Well, Utah State was just 6-6 this year, not quite the same as 10 or 11 wins. Chuckie Keeton just was not the same player after all of his injuries. Wells needs a comeback year next season to be an “it” HC again. I’ve noticed his name is not coming up in the coaching carousel this time. Mtn West is starting to show a little more parity. Boise is coming back to the pack and others like New Mexico are becoming more competitive.

  12. All this uncertainty at the Utah schools sucks.
    GA better not bail. OSU will go into a 5-10 year dark age if something like that happens. This could affect recruiting negatively as is…suddenly uncertainty surrounds OSU, too.

  13. Gordon Monson is a long tenured SLC sports personality, here’s his “take” on the situation. Monson’s “Whittingham may sit out a year” scenario seems odd to me. No real mention of replacements if Whittingham leaves, but reinforcement that he was pissed about Sitake leaving and thought the AD should have offered more. Is Utah realy GA’s “dream job”, any quotes out there?

    http://www.sltrib.com/sports/1992784-155/monson-whittingham-will-leave-utah-i

    • I hope Utah hires Matt Wells.
      Or OSU hires Matt Wells if Andersen and crew bail. I mean, they can’t, right? That would be a huge black eye on their resume..they already have a reputation for being transients.

      • I feel for that reason we have security with GA. What recruit would want to play for him at his next job if he only stuck with his last 3 jobs for 2, 2 and 1 year, respectively?

        • no way GA go to Utah if it is an AD issue. He had one in Wisconsin and the it the reason he left. He is best friends with Whittingham and no way he would take that job if his best friends just leave because of a bad boss

          • I think that’s the best argument, but with BYU open he could go there, too. GA is hard to read…he says he isn’t Mormon, yet he’s spent most of his life in Utah and left WI to get back to the West. GA says all the right things, but I don’t necessarily trust him to stay if a job he prefers opens up.

          • my sense is that Andersen truly has bought in to the Corvallis “ideal college town” vibe. Even Sitake is quoted to same effect but as a coordinator he’s always going to keep his options open, and you can’t blame him. For better or worse, with Andersen and this staff stuff going on in Utah (including BYU) is always going to be the Achilles heel relative to his durability in Corvallis, just like tumult at SC was a wedge vis a vis Riley.

      • Chris Hill (Utah AD) has had relationships that eroded and became toxic over time with both of his long tenured head football coaches (McBride and Whittingham). Urban Meyer wasn’t there long and was hugely successful. Hill truly believes Utah should be an elite football and basketball school and if a coach can’t get there he is going to find someone else. He’s pissed about Utah blowing their opportunity this year. GA should approach very cautiously if this is really his destination job. He won’t be there long if he can’t win at least South titles.

          • The issue with him, is it sounded like he really dogged Sitake by not making a good offer to him… So I don’t know if he is the most likable AD so that’s going to make people hesitant I think

          • Good for the program, bad for the “fallen coaches”! He took some shit for the post Majerus hoops turnover, but ended up with a winner in Coach K. My guess is that GA would not be enough of a name for Chris Hill now that Utah is in the P-12 and whatever the circumstances and legitimate reasons, Andersen is semi-tarnished goods after this past season with the way Hill thinks.

  14. I did a little surfing, I don’t see anything in the Oregon media about any of this BYU/Utah stuff. You would think one of the “journalists” would at least try to get a quote from Sitake since he’s mentioned in almost every single article about the BYU opening.

      • Ok, thanks. I will dig around O-Live. I use a couple of aggregates to get Beavs news. Usually could give two shits about Goe’s opinion unless he got some actual quotes.

        • It was just a Goe blurb that Sitake is a strong candidate for the BYU job and it should be taken seriously, thanks Capt.Obvious. Guess it would be too much work to try to get a quote from Sitake or Andersen.

  15. Rose: Tree/Iowa (this looks to be a great game. glad they chose Iowa over tOSU)
    Alamo: Dux/TCU
    Holiday: USC/Wisky
    Sun: Wazzu/Miami
    Cactus: ASSU/West Vagina
    Foster Farms: UCLA/Nebby (way to go Riles!!!!)
    Vegas: Utah/BYU (Utah has to be pissed. Now they know how beav fans feel after getting kicked in the sack back in 2009)

    Washington Cal and Arizona I have yet to see where they are headed

  16. Gophers get an APR bowl. Yippy. They way this season has gone we will blow out 30 or 40 ACL’s in practices. Xmas in Detroit……………….does it get any better? No team under .500 should be bowling, unless it is team building at the local AMF lanes. Riley gets another bowl to peg to his resume. Neat deal.

  17. Remmers with three penalties today; two holds and one false start. Joe Buck makes a point that Remmers has six false start penalties this year, the implication being that it’s a lot. The more things change . . .

  18. So many drops in the NFL today. Patriots 3 huge drops on their final drive.
    We get on Bolden…just makes you realize even pros drop a ton of passes.

  19. So… Whittingham will get fired. Sitake will take the BYU job. GA won’t go anywhere. And we hire Whitt to replace Sitake for a year, maybe two.

    Done.

      • Whitt to BYU, Sitake to Utah, Wilcox to OSU? That would leave OSU in a situation that could last 4-5 years whereas I feel Sitake is off for a HC role within the next 3 years. Not that are defense was good this year. I like GA beating Sitake for OSU over Utah.

  20. Sitake also a potential option for BYU. If it happens I would be OK with Wilcox to OSU as DC. Could set him up to be HC of the Beavs in 6 or 7 years and am sure GA could groom him well over that time.

      • True that Sitake can only get better at OSU. With a couple solid recruiting cycles I think we will see a consistently stiffer defense. Question is how much interest does BYU have in Sitake and would Whitt seriously consider BYU himself. Seems weird to leave a Pac-12 school for BYU unless Whitt and Hill have differences. If somehow Whitt would consider it at the right price, Utah seems like a tough place for Sitake to be under pressure to perform at a high level very quickly. Utah may like Sitake to some extent but making him their HC is a stretch and riskier than some candidates. I would take Matt Wells in that situation if I was Utah. Wells to BYU even makes some sense as a step above USU but it looks like Maryland has interest in Wells.

        • I don’t think “Wells to Utah” can happen. I’ve never heard that Wells is LDS, he grew up in Oklahoma. He ended up as a player at Utah St. because then HC Charlie Weatherbie had some interest in Wells when he was an assistant at Arkansas and then recruited him when he became HC. One must be a church member in good standing to be considered for the BYU job.

  21. What would the draw be for BYU to hire Sitake over Lance Anderson, DC from Stanford. He’s been rumored just as much as Sitake, was a former recruiting coordinator and his recent body of work far outshines Sitake’s.(more talent helps, but Stanfird D has been pretty impressive this past decade under Harbaugh and Shaw, with Anderson as DC

  22. One writer at the Salt Lake tribune predicts Sitake (over Navy’s HC) to BYU:

    http://www.sltrib.com/home/3266980-155/kragthorpe-navy-coach-is-right-guy

    And since Sitake’s name is coming up, thought some might find these links convenient too:

    What the AD is looking for in a replacement;

    http://www.sltrib.com/blogs/byusports/3268522-155/byu-football-ad-tom-holmoe-key

    Potential candidates;

    http://www.sltrib.com/sports/3267192-155/byu-football-shallow-pool-of-candidates

  23. I think losing Sitake is a legitimate concern, but GA would really start burning bridges if he bailed. I just don’t see it. Like Lebron leaving Cleveland a second time. It’s just not gonna happen. There’d be too much negative fallout.

    Don’t underestimate Sitake’s value to the program though. He’s a huge reason why this is our best recruiting class in years

  24. I’m not worried about losing Sitake, Andersen can pick up the slack on defense. OSU should not pay him more to keep him here. He’s already one of the highest paid assistants in the conference and nation.

    People were predicting Sitake would leave at some point for a HC job. So if it’s now, then so be it. There’s plenty of good DC candidates out there.

    • I agree, but it would slow the rebuild for sure. Although you have to ask if it would be better now or a couple years from now. Advantage to Sitake leaving now is it is early in the rebuild. You can get a new guy in right away and maybe build something in that outlast what would have been a short stop over by Sitake. Sitake leaving later means the rebuild continues, and faster then without him, as Sitake is a good recruiter. I’d rather have him stay for now but honestly I won’t join Sark at the bar if he goes now.

    • Yes giving Sitake a raise would probably be the worst-case scenario here. I’d rather let him go than pile on on top of his already pretty ludicrous salary.

  25. Isn’t Aunt Patty a Mormon? Why no love for him at BYU. They love passing. He loves passing and is an Alum. That would be awesome.

    • “Over the past few weeks, I pledged that Oregon State University will act quickly to address the concerns of racial injustice that have been shared recently by many of our students to ensure that our university is a safer, more just, caring and inclusive community,”

      Interesting, I haven’t seen anything in the news about this. Seems like these things end up on the news before the universities have a chance to respond.

    • I believe I saw on his twitter feed that Taylor Thomas believes he’s got whatever grade he needed to be able to step into this class. I don’t think he played for the JUCO that he attended either.

      Missions last 2 years (unless the kid quits early, which has happened in the past) so anybody we’d get would have been class of 2014. The one Mormon mission kid from Wisconsin’s class of 2014 is Ula Tolutau and he’s recently been offered.

      http://247sports.com/Player/Ula-Tolutau-31929

      • Where did you read that Tulatao had been offered recently? I see an offer showing on that 247 link, but it doesn’t show it on his timeline. Maybe it’s just assumed?

        With Thomas, call me skeptical, but i don’t think I’ve ever seen Thomas write a tweet without a miss-spelled word somewhere in it, so I’ll only believe he’s academically eligible to play when I see him set foot on the Reser turf.

        https://twitter.com/Grind_Shine2/status/673897927220199424

        “Me in my future runningback coach ”

        Also, there’s one other returning mission kid who was a Utah commit and is brothers with one of our 2016 signees (who is going on his mission)
        That is Amone Finau. His brother Sione is a recent OSU commit, but we won’t see him for 2 years. Amone was a 3* RB out of high-school in 2014. I don’t know if we’ve offered him yet, but would make sense with our current staff, and the fact we offered his younger brother recently.

        • “Where did you read that Tulatao had been offered recently?”

          I want to say twitter, but it may have been deleted because I can’t find it now. Or I’m getting my dudes confused, but I remember looking at his tape two years ago and liking him. All I can find right now is one vague hint about him coming here in a tweet after Sione Finau committed, implying Tolutau was going to follow Sitake wherever he was.

          And also there’s this: Trevor Phibbs @trevorphibbs

          Christian Folau is very close with Wisconsin RB Ula Tolutau, who is huge on Andersen and on an LDS mission. Watch for that OSU development.

          So, hopefully we keep Sitake because those guys love him.

          “Me in my future runningback coach ”

          Haha, yeah, that’s not good.

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