Thank user SilverStream for these.
The Plays
Mannion passes to Villamin over the middle, the ball bounces off Villamin’s hands, high up in the air, is intercepted (I think by Zack Robinson), and run back for a TD. It’s a ball that was thrown hard, but it’s a ball that Villamin has to catch. Mannion and the coaches will be talking to Villamin about this one quite I bit, I’m guessing.
Del Rio in. Hawkins with a fly sweep to the right — got outside quickly and turned up towards sidelines. Didn’t get many yards, but that’s because the blocking wasn’t there. I think XH already runs the fly sweep well. With both Hawkins and Boldin available this season, the fly sweep will likely be an important part of the OSU ground game this season.
On the next play, Del Rio lets the snap go right through his hands, and then fails to pick up the ball, allowing a defender to scoop the ball and run into the endzone. Del Rio looked slow and unsure of himself on the play
Del Rio pass to the left side to Ricky Ortiz — it was a well-thrown pass, but Ortiz dropped the ball (a ball he could have and should have caught)
Del Rio pass downfield on the right side, picked off cleanly by Justin Strong, RS Freshman safety, and run back. Del Rio threw the ball into tight coverage, and Strong made a nice play on the ball, cutting in front of the receiver (who I think was Malik Gilmore, although I may be misremembering this). Ill-advised pass by Del Rio. Not clear whether Del Rio saw that the receiver was tightly covered — looked like Del Rio was throwing to a spot, regardless of the coverage.
VanderVeen in. Nice run by Chris Brown to the right side for 8+ yards, good job finding a hole through multiple defenders and getting upfield quickly.
VanderVeen rolls to his right and hits his receiver on the numbers for about 8 yards. VanderVeen looks comfortable rolling out and throwing on the run — also seems good at avoiding the rush and extending the play
VanderVeen throws a screen pass to Chris Brown on the left side — Chris Brown was covered tightly on the play and the pass was incomplete; VanderVeen probably should not have thrown the ball at all
VanderVeen throws a long pass down the left hash to Xavier Hawkins; pass falls incomplete; Hawkins was fighting the defender downfield (I believe it was Larry Scott), and I don’t think Hawkins even got his hands on the ball at all (it’s the kind of catch that Brandin Cooks was so good at making despite tight downfield coverage — but Hawkins is not able to fight through a defender to make this sort of play, at least not at this early point in his career)
VanderVeen dropped the snap, and didn’t make much of an effort to recover the ball, which was picked up and run back for a TD by the defense. Not VanderVeen’s finest moment. Seemed like he just gave up on the play, treating this as a scrimmage, and not wanting to get hurt or anything. VanderVeen will hear about this later from John Garrett, and won’t enjoy watching this on film.
Ward on a short cutback run to the left side, up-ended by Justin Strong on a beautiful form tackle just past the line of scrimmage. Justin Strong looks like came to play today.
VanderVeen rolls to his left away from pressure, throws on the run, and hits Caleb Smith down the left sideline for first down yardage — nice poise, footwork, and throw by VanderVeen.
Damien Haskins bounces a play outside and picks up 8+ yards. Quick feet and good vision by Haskins to turn a nothing play into a nice gain.
VanderVeen drops back, moves around in a collapsing pocket, and then pulls down the ball and gains about 10 yards up the middle on a nice scramble. VanderVeen again shows nice footwork and decent footspeed, as well as good poise and football IQ.
VanderVeen is too slow getting off the play, and is hit with a delay of game penalty. Yelling ensues from coaches on the sideline to VanderVeen, saying he has to do a better job of getting the offense ready to run the play and getting the play started on time
VanderVeen tries to hit Xavier Hawkins on a long pass down the right hash. VanderVeen threw the ball before XH made his cut, and XH cut outside while the ball was thrown inside. One of the coaches on the sideline (I think it was John Garrett) loudly yelled “No” as soon as the pass was thrown.
Draw play to the middle-right of the field, and Chris Brown picks up good yardage again (8+ yards, maybe more); CB again shows good vision and quickness in picking and hitting his holes
VanderVeen nicely sets up and completes a middle TE screen to Caleb Smith, good for about 10 yards. Caleb Smith is hit hard and dropped quickly by Brandon Arnold (another guy who came to play today, and recorded a number of good hits).
Chris Brown up the middle for nothing. Nolan Hansen, playing OG, got blown up on the play (and got yelled at by Cav from the sidelines).
Kendall Hill, WR split to the left, jumped offsides.
VanderVeen completes a short pass to Chris Brown on the left side — good pass, good catch, decent, safe yardage.
Inside the 20 yard line (red zone), Caleb Smith ran a seam route up the middle and got behind the defense, but VanderVeen’s pass was a little high and to the side, and Caleb Smith juggled the ball but could not hold on. Almost a nice TD connection between Caleb Smith and VanderVeen.
Del Rio in at QB. Storm Woods gets a few yards (but goes down quickly after contact — too quickly in my view).
Same thing, this time to the right side — a couple of yards, but Storm goes down quickly after initial contact.
On 3rd and 5, Del Rio’s pass is blocked by a defender (not sure who did it) and batted high up in the air. May have been caught on the way down (not sure by whom) but I wasn’t watching that — I was watching Del Rio to see his reaction — Del Rio looked frozen in place.
Del Rio comes back with a nice pass to Jordan Villamin for about 10 yards — good pass, good catch in traffic by Villamin.
Larry Scott has been defending aggressively all day — LS and Jordan Villamin appeared to have some sharp words, and a little pushing, after the last play, but were quickly separated.
Good pass by Del Rio just short of the goal line, dropped by the receiver in tight coverage (I think it was Villamin who dropped the pass, but I’m not positive).
VanderVeen back in. First play is pass to Wark for about 5 yards to the right side. Pass was a little bit behind Wark, who reached up and out to grab the ball and secure it. (Wark impresses me as a solid, reliable receiver with good hands who continues to make plays. Not flashy, but solid.)
VanderVeen back to throw, the pocket collapses quickly, VanderVeen buys time by moving around, and then throws the ball away to avoid a sack. Good footwork and poise again — made the right decision to avoid the sack here by throwing the ball away.
Chris Brown runs to the left side for a couple of yards — bad blocking by the second-string O-line, and no holes at all. Brown did what he could by just plowing forward and trying to push the pile to gain what he could.
Rinse and repeat. Brown for a yard or two, with no holes to run through at all.
High punt, good coverage, T. Ward tried to make the catch, and fumbled the ball. Ugh.
Del Rio in again, this time with the first string line and the first string backs (Ward and Woods). Feels like the coaches are giving Del Rio this chance to redeem himself by moving the offense down the field. First play was play action, Del Rio dropped back, and overthrew a receiver who was covered loosely about 8 yards downfield. Pass floated — Del Rio lucky it wasn’t picked off.
Naked backfield, Del Rio threw a ball downfield about 8-10 yards into tight coverage that fell incomplete, but Murphy was close to intercepting it. Ball probably should not have been thrown. Looks like Del Rio may be pressing, knowing that he has to do something with this opportunity.
Damien Haskins back in. Runs to the left, uses a nice stutter step to get around a defender and pick up about 5 yards. Again, makes something out of not much.
Another run to the left by Haskins, again for about 5 yards. Haskins is hit, but does not go down easy. Tough kid.
VanderVeen back in. VanderVeen scrambles around to buy time, and sees Jacob Wark open down the left sideline. VanderVeen throws a decent pass (not a perfect spiral, but good enough) that just gets over/past the defender. Wark manages to stay focused, catches the ball, turns upfield, and runs 50 yards down the left sideline for a TD. Celebration ensues.
VanderVeen again. Play action pass on right side to Ricky Ortiz. Throw is a little high, but Ortiz makes a nice catch for a short gain.
VanderVeen throws the ball into the dirt rather than forcing it into Xavier Hawkins on a short screen play; good decision, since XH was not open at all.
VanderVeen drops back, overthrows Wark 15 yards down the middle of the field. Wark was open, VanderVeen simply overthrew him.
Chris Brown on a draw play gets a few yards on a solid run.
VanderVeen nice pass over the middle for about 10 yards (not sure of receiver — perhaps Iona Pritchard).
VanderVeen quick pass to the right sideline to Xavier Hawkins (bubble screen type play); Hawkins caught the ball cleanly, and got upfield quickly for a 7-8 yard gain. Nice play on both ends (good throw by VanderVeen, nice catch and run by Hawkins).
Chris Brown with an excellent run to the right side for first down+ yardage. Found a hole, hit it, and got upfield fast.
Chris Brown takes the ball right, cuts back left, and then heads upfield for 5+ yards. Another nice run.
Chris Brown to the left side for zero — no hole at all.
In red zone, VanderVeen finds Hawkins in the left corner of the end zone for the TD; good route by Hawkins to break left from his defender; when VanderVeen saw the break, he just lobbed the ball over the defender to Hawkins in the corner; nice play by both guys.
Kyle Kempt in for the first time. Completes a pass to Datrin Guyton. Well-thrown ball (nice spiral, good location) on the money.
Ryan Nall’s first carry — decent run to the right side for a few yards. Nall runs upright, but he’s a big strong guy who perhaps can get away with it, at least sometimes.
Kempt looks for Guyton on the right side (an out pattern — about 12-15 yards deep). Looked like a well-thrown ball, but Guyton slipped and couldn’t get there.
Kempt throws another nice ball, this one to Drew Kell, caught for about 10 yards.
Yet another well-thrown ball from Kempt, this one to Kendall Hill, up the left-middle, for about 10 yards.
Kempt throws high to Jaylyn Bailey (Soph RB) in the right flat, Bailey can’t catch it
Handoff to Nall, who slipped and didn’t gain anything.
Kempt pass to Guyton — hit Guyton right in the numbers, and Guyton dropped it. Nice pass. Bad drop.
Kempt came out at this point.
Next up at QB was Nick Mitchell for a series. He moved the offense down the field against the third string defense.
Then Marcus McMaryion came in for a couple of series. He moved the offense well, too. And that was the end of the scrimmage.
Both Mitchell and McMaryion performed surprisingly well. In fact, the only QB who under-performed today was Del Rio.
I took notes on the plays run by Nick Mitchell and Marcus McMaryion. I may transcribe those later tonight, if I get time.
Wow, thanks for taking the time to do this. How did you find the time to take such detailed notes and still catch every play?
Watch play, record short audio note on mobile phone, watch next play, etc. Drive home, transcribe audio notes, send email to Angry.
thank you …VanderVeen looks like the #2
I’d say he definitely looks like #2…..if you know what I mean…..
Good stuff. Agreed that vanderveen looks muh better than del rio.
Awesome report. Thanks.
Very much appreciated.
Sounding like Nall might serve the team best at LB.
Some other comments to explain and accompany the notes.
I missed the first few minutes of the scrimmage. By the time I sat down at Reser, Mannion was just about done for the day. That is why my notes start with Mannion’s last throw — the ball that was muffed by Villamin, intercepted, and returned for a TD.
At today’s scrimmage, I focused on the QBs, receivers, and running backs. I figured that’s what people would find most interesting. The O-line is such a mess at the moment that it’s not worth talking about (and it’s not useful or interesting to keep slamming the O-line while so many guys are out injured). Meanwhile, there aren’t that many open questions or concerns about the defense at the moment (partly because the Beaver defense routinely overpowers the offense in the trenches right now….but again that’s not news to anyone on this site).
Also, while watching today’s scrimmage, it felt like a major point of the scrimmage was to give VanderVeen and Del Rio — and a lot of the young backs and receivers — a chance to show the OSU coaching staff what they could do in pseudo game conditions (in Reser, in front of fans, with uniformed referees). Mannion got surprisingly few reps. After that, for the next hour, it was back and forth between VanderVeen and Del Rio (until the coaches took pity on Del Rio, who was clearly outplayed by VanderVeen, and then also clearly outplayed by Kempt). I think that’s a big part of what this scrimmage was about for the coaches — so it made sense to me to focus on that, too.
From what I saw today, I think VanderVeen would do okay if Mannion couldn’t go. Del Rio surely is not as bad as he looked today. But even ignoring some of Del Rio’s worst plays in today’s scrimmage, I still prefer VanderVeen. I think VanderVeen is more mobile, and at the moment has a better feel for the OSU offense and personnel. Del Rio will improve as he gets more time and experience at OSU, but he’s certainly not there yet, and he proved that today. I am hoping that the OSU coaches don’t make the mistake of playing Mannion every minute of every game this season to let Mannion pursue passing records, while denying VanderVeen (and Del Rio, and maybe even Kempt) a chance to get some valuable real-game experience this season.
Also, from what I saw today, I am also hoping that Chris Brown and Damien Haskins get a real chance early this year to show what they can do during games. There is of course more to playing RB than just running the football. But when it comes to running the football, I like Chris Brown and Damien Haskins more than Storm Woods and T. Ward. I think Storm Woods should be mostly a 3rd down back (since he IS a good receiver out of the backfield). For the other three guys, I’m hoping they all split playing time more or less equally early this season. Ward is a known quantity. Let’s find out as soon as we can what Chris Brown and Haskins can do. They might do really well. And, hey, it’s not like the OSU running game was a juggernaut last year with Ward and Woods, right?
That leaves the receivers. Here again, the injury situation makes things tough. Mullaney will play effectively if he’s healthy (but he’s often hurt). Connor Hamlett is in the same boat (effective when healthy, but often hurt). Caleb Smith is improved, and Jacob Wark is solid (sorry, I’m not a Kellen Clute fan). But that’s it for experienced receivers (unless you count Malik Gilmore, which I don’t, because MG didn’t catch many balls last season).
As for the young guys, a lot of attention (maybe too much) seems to be lavished on Bolden and Xavier Hawkins. It feels like the OSU coaching staff is hoping one or both of these guys can magically morph into Brandin Cooks and/or the pre-injury James Rodgers. Maybe that will happen with respect to the fly sweep. But as downfield receivers, Bolden and Hawkins have a long way to go — in my opinion — before they should even be mentioned in the same sentence with Cooks and Rodgers.
Here’s hoping that one or two of the other young WRs make a move in the next couple of weeks, and show they can run reliable routes and catch the ball most of the time when it’s thrown near them. None of them have proven that yet. Good candidates to step up might be Jordan Villamin, Rahmel Dockery, or Hunter Jarmon. Maybe even Malik Gilmore or Kendall Hill (who made a tough catch today near the end of the scrimmage, and who has made some other nice catches in the two practices I’ve watched). Coach Brennan has his work cut out for him, but I’m a fan of Coach Brennan. Fingers crossed that all of this works out for the Beavs this season (and for Mannion, whose status in next year’s NFL draft may heavily depend on it).
Thanks so much for the report, and for this addendum.
I, too, am “hoping that the OSU coaches don’t make the mistake of playing Mannion every minute of every game this season to let Mannion pursue passing records, while denying VanderVeen (and Del Rio, and maybe even Kempt) a chance to get some valuable real-game experience this season.” Still, I will not be surprised if Riley makes this mistake. My only hope is that Garrett will override Riley’s blind loyalty trait and demonstrate some longer range thinking.
Garrett is surely in a much better position to counter some of Riley’s tendencies than was Langs!
Yes, very good point.
Langsdorf for Garrett was a great upgrade for the Beavs. Langsdorf was a “yes man” all the way. Garrett, in contrast, seems to be the kind of guy who will stand up to the head coach — respectfully but firmly — when he disagrees.
When it’s obvious to everyone in the stadium that Mannion should be removed from a game and playing time given instead to a younger QB, it will surely be obvious to Garrett as well. The Beavs and their fans will benefit if Riley, at least sometimes, listens to Garrett in situations like this. Is that too much to expect?
I agree with just about everything you say without seeing a practice. Who is Ricky Ortiz? Healthy is the key word here. The OL might be alright if they are all healthy. If that’s not the case we need somebody to be able to gain yardage when it’s not there, and I think that sounds more and more like Brown.
I am more concerned with receiver at this point. We are too small, and /or inexperienced. Bolden and Hawkins maybe fast but if they can’t separate and create a target they will be overpowered. Have you been able to see if either can get off the bump at line or show a burst after their first cut? Mullaney is already showing he won’t be able to become durable receiver. Villamin seems like our best option big, strong target. He has got to become a factor, but he’s never played and I don’t know how much of the playbook he knows. Wish they would have a package for him speciality, so he could learn and perfect those plays, much like they do with fly sweep receivers.
This “complex playbook” thing is so irritating, especially since the results are far from stellar.
Why the hell can’t Villamin be given 6-8 plays run out of no more than 2 sets. He certainly could master that kind of playbook, and it could make a difference.
Ricky Ortiz: Sophomore fullback from Mater Dei HS, Corona CA (6′ tall, 230 lbs).
Agreed that Chris Brown is the Beaver RB most likely to take a small hole and turn it into a good gain. CB has good vision, good balance, and quick feet. He seems to be able to identify and squeeze through small holes, and he also makes people miss. All of that sets him apart from OSU’s other runners, and also makes him more fun for fans to watch.
Also agreed about the receivers.
I haven’t attended many practices this Fall so far, so I haven’t seen much of Xavier Hawkins against press coverage (and haven’t seen Bolden do much of anything at all this Fall, since Bolden’s been hurt a lot). Good question regarding how effectively Bolden and Hawkins can deal with physical defenders bumping and pushing them at the line. I’ll try to watch for that during the next practice I’m able to attend.
Is Villamin our best remaining option? Maybe. He’s got physical talent for sure. But can Villamin catch the ball in traffic on Saturday, in front of 45,000 people, and then hold on after he’s hit? Or instead will he bat the ball up in the air like he did today? I don’t think anyone — at this moment — knows the answer to that. Not the coaches. Not Villamin himself. Kind of scary, but that’s where we seem to be at the moment.
The good news is that we only need one or two guys to step up out of this group in the next few weeks, and there are quite a few who have the potential to do it. Coach Brennan is probably focusing on exactly this question at the moment. It will be interesting to see how this develops…and may be the key to OSU’s offensive success this season (along with a quick recover by Isaac Seumalo — which I suspect remains the MOST important thing for this team).
Great stuff Silver (and bone), thanks again for all the time and effort you guys put in getting these reports together.
I was at the scrimmage today as well and while I’m not nearly as good at analyzing players as some of the others who post here, I agree that the receiving corps certainly seems to be a questionable entity at this point. I sat behind the players on the new side of the stadium and overheard Brennan getting on Villamin several times about his “desire to play” and that he needs to “show that he wants to play.” Also, while almost the entire rest of the team was messing around on the slip n’ slide following the conclusion of the scrimmage, Brennan had all the receivers huddled and seemed to be making his displeasure about their performance known in no uncertain terms, followed by leading them in stretches while the other players fooled around. I’m hopeful that he can get this group whipped into shape and that collectively they can replace the production that was derived from mostly one guy last year. It seems like the group actually has a good mix of tall, physical type guys (Villamin, Gilmore, Mullaney, the TEs) and small speed guys like Hawkins and Bolden that could work well together if they can sharpen up and stay healthy. Lots of potential and interesting prospects but still an untested bunch imo
I thought going into camp alot of people (media) were saying Jarmon looked like that guy who was going to step into one of the main receiver roles this year. I havent been following his status lately, but is he even practicing yet?
I was thinking the combination of Mullaney/Bolden/Jarmon/Hamlett/Smith would be enough to keep the offense moving while the other guys battled it out for the backup minutes. When I say the other guys, we’re talking about a pretty young and inexperienced group that is athletically gifted and has some diversity. Hearing Hawkins is capable of running the sweep effectively is encouraging. I feel like Wheaton amd Rodgers both started out as frosh running that play more than as receiving options. The receiving route running will develop as he gains experience. I’m not as worried that they’ll find SOMEBODY in that backup group to contribute more by the time the Pac-12 games roll around. That’s still quite a few weeks away. Until then, I think we’ll have enough offense to survive the early schedule unscathed (as long as we’re not fumbling snaps away)
I’m looking forward to seeing these guys practice in person Monday night, but I dont have the chops to put together a practice report like this. I’ll be sure to keep an eye on specific groups though if anybody has a request for another perspective.
Jarmon hasn’t practiced most of the week due to an ankle injury, I think, he is scheduled to go Mo day.
Boy that is disheartening to hear about Villamin, having sat out last season you would think it would make him hungry, however maybe it had the opposite effect, he may discovered more than football? Hope he can find that “desire” we sure could use him.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/with_season_opener_nearing_ore.html
More details re Brennan’s unhappiness with young WRs following Saturday’s scrimmage, and the need — as you say — to “get this group whipped into shape”.
Thanks Silver for your diligent work! This is the kind of insight that makes AB much more valuable than the other blogs/sites!!
This season may be our last chance in awhile for the stars to magically align. If so, this will help me get the fam to a magical Rose Bowl experience!
http://imgur.com/xg8aeXL
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2014/08/canzano_oregon_states_brick-by.html
Canzano weighs in on the upcoming season.
Reads like some of the stuff on here. Canzano must be looking here.
Great to hear encouraging assessment of VanderVeen; both the footwork and mobility to extend plays and the good decision-making to throw the ball away if needed. Also nice to hear about Brown, Haskins, Wark, Strong and Arnold. Thanks for posting the info.
I’ve posted this before, but think its worth mentioning again, particularly in light of OSU’s inconsistent and generally weak tackling, and an upcoming defense report from Bone.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/08/15/pete-carroll-seahawks-tackling-video/
What I like about what Seattle has done with teaching tackling this way, is take a critical fundamental and teach it systematically (yes, we all assume OSU would do this), simply, and safely. No, the techniques aren’t their own, didn’t originate in Seattle, but by teaching tackling systematically, even giving tackles “Hawk” names (kind of silly, I know) they’ve not only created an effective defensive unit where everyone tackles consistently well, they’ve given their team – an identity!
I REALLY wish Banker and the defensive unit would watch these. I wish some press would question him about his team’s tackling and how he teaches it. Ask if/how closely their teaching of tackling aligns with what Seattle does, and if it differs, why? I expect Banker’s ego would prevent him from trying Carrol’s instructional videos with his team.
OT again. Eli Manning may be regressing:
From S-I:
“Fourth Down: Eli Manning.
In 2013, Manning set career highs in interceptions (27) and sacks (39), and the belief was that new offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo would take the Giants’ quarterback out of the malaise brought about by too many years with Kevin Gilbride, and everything would be all right. McAdoo even caused a few titters when he suggested that Manning could come close to a 70 percent completion rate this season, pretty bold talk about a player who’s completed 53.5 percent of his throws through 10 seasons.
Based on three preseason games (yes, it’s a small sample size, but bear with us), Manning might be lucky if he completes 70 passes all year, never mind the percentage. Throughout the preseason, and especially against the Colts, Manning looked simply horrible. He was unsure in the pocket, hesitant to hit his receivers in stride (he double-clutched more than once when it appeared that he should have pulled the trigger) and overall, he just looked lost. Manning completed one of seven passes for six yards, and at least two of those incompletions should have been interceptions.
At the end of Manning’s final drive of the day, in the second quarter, the Giants ran an inside draw on third-and-7, down 13-0. I don’t care if it is the preseason. That’s a sign that your quarterback situation is no bueno, and you know all about it.”
Not fair to blame it all on Danny, there’s a new OC in New York too, but I think its interesting. OSU’s game has always been “so hard”for its QB’s to learn, likely some of that has been the teaching.
He needs to find his identity.
Meanwhile, Mannion reportedly showing his best footwork and form ever…part of it due to being a senior? Yes. Part of it due to Garret’s enthused, detailed coaching? Probably.
A couple articles on OSU’s D from Eggers that I just noticed:
CB’s:
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/229996-92455-osu-patches-cornerback-post
LBs:
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/229853-92441-backers-are-back-as-force-at-osu
More on LB’s from the GT:
http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/article_f3ffce44-2688-11e4-992b-0019bb2963f4.html
The Joe Beaver show has kicked off again, 12-2 Pacific M-F.
Here’s the link:
http://v6.player.abacast.net/2465
Hmm – Pac-12 mbb all-stars have returned from China. Duvier and Cheikh N’diaye were the token Beavs. I haven’t looked very hard but in the brief time I’ve spent looking at results, I get the impression they played very little.
Hurry up being practiced tonight.
Standing in the huddle for 20 vs 25 seconds?
Free Kurt Van Meter concert in Parker Plaza! Whoever he is? More of that OSU identity stuff….
Ahhh. Here he is, already played at OSU sporting a jersey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQuGYflCUWg
Well, . . . ok, but Missoula had Paul McCartney.
The title of the song, and the fact that he sang it at Reser is painfully funny. Good thing it wasn’t at the EWU, USC or ___________ game….
DJ Alexander also back in practice.
Jarmon also
So it’s looking like there might be 4 freshmen who won’t be redshirting. Xavier Hawkins, Ryan Nall looks like locks. Where and when they play is still up for debate. One of the other two could be Dwayne Williams who has been making plays all camp. But who would be the fourth that Riley says would be on redshirt alert? My guess would be an OL or a DL. Not sure anyone will play or make an impact.
He’s been hinting at maybe Delp.
Is Delp lining up on offense or defense?
offense.
Hawaii talking about getting rid of their football team. Time to recruit the islands hard.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24666953/ad-deficit-may-cause-hawaii-to-drop-football
Yes, let’s chase that rabbit even further down that hole.
The truth is college football is dying. And the same people who cry about tradition and the culture and popularity of the sport feed off all those in order to make money. The unyielding consequence of a deregulated market is oligopoly trending toward monopoly. And college football is pretty well unregulated being non-profit and having a regulatory body called the NCAA.
People want to claim that Hawai’i has problems other than the Power 5 autonomy (read: oligopoly). But that’s true of all but about 20 NCAA FBS programs.
http://www.ethosreview.org/intellectual-spaces/is-college-football-profitable/
The 65 programs of the Power 5 will eventually lose the body bag games because there will be no reason for the bags to travel beyond financial incentive. It’s not compelling sport. Some of those 65 schools might even get embarrassed… more than once. And those outside the Power 5 might just have ill will enough to go tell all of them to go screw themselves.
That will mean the 65 will need to feed off each other for wins and losses. And if we look at the number of games where just those Power 5 play each other within their own conferences, we find that prestige is tied directly to not eating your own. Who plays the least games against their own conference and, therefore, suffers fewer losses per team within that conference? Who is considered the best football conference?
If the Power 5 feed on each other, that means the losses mount, and programs which are now just treading water will lose. While all the arguments which pretend football is some intangible revenue producing cow are just fallacies, this removes all those lies for all those now-losing programs. Then we will start to hear the oligarchs talk about threshing the grain (read: trending toward monopoly). And if you’re not one of them at the time this occurs, you’re the chaff. If it were happening now, Colorado and Cal would be on the outside looking in despite that old tradition thing. But then we would hear about TV markets, and Wazzu, Zony and OSU would get chopped instead.
The cancer that is college football revenue was benign for a long time. It went to stage 1 with the BCS and stage 2 with all the TV contracts. Now it’s very close to metastasizing.
And all that is ancillary to the other problems attacking football like the possibility of labor unions and head trauma. Schools outside the 15-20 static profitable programs would be better off in the end just dropping football altogether if money was all it was about. And even if the tradition/culture/popularity hypocrites whine just a little more in order to keep this from happening (for their own enrichment… not for the benefit of their schools), their fallacies will die a comedic Shakespearean death with years of flopping throes before it finally occurs.
The schools who will win out in the end are those who retool their athletic programs and facilities for this eventual future.
OT – Victor Butler’s future at Saints unknown as they make roster cuts at LB:
“That leaves four players fighting for what is likely two spots. Here’s how the numbers crunch breaks down.
•Victor Butler: Butler hasn’t taken a snap since signing with the Saints as a free agent last year. A training camp knee injury ended his 2013 season. He disappeared from practice on Aug. 2 and wasn’t seen on the sidelines again until Sunday. Payton hasn’t disclosed his injury, so it’s impossible to know whether he’ll be healthy enough to start the season.”
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2014/08/with_cuts_looming_a_look_at_pl.html
We have one more opening in the fantasy football league.
Anyone? Beuller…?
Peko floats like a butterfly….an entertaining interview with his CC coach:
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/cerritos_college_coach_discuss.html
Good luck keeping him eligible.
Wonder what the odds are on Peko playing in a bowl game this year? Is that something our sponsor Sportsinteraction.com covers?
and now ASU has new “alternate” uniforms;
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/75381/arizona-state-adds-alternatives-uniforms
tOSU just lost it’s QB.
http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2014/08/18/braxton-miller-injury-update.html
Gina quotes Riley as saying there may have been more live drills in this Fall camp than he has EVER had.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_beavers_reporters_7.html
Now, have these drills been effective? Are they using anything like the Seahawks fundamentals which ObjC linked above? I am looking for an opportunity to push the question re: how the Beavs are taught to tackle.
Retweeted by Mama:
Warner Strausbaugh ?@WStrausbaugh 3h
Mike Riley said Isaac Seumalo was re-evaluated today and will increase his rehab regimen, but playing vs. PSU is unrealistic at this time.
Connor just tweeted that the scrimmage is off for tomorrow, Beavs to practice at 10:30am and 7pm.
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Oregon State Beavers fall camp practice report: Receivers Richard Mullaney, Hunter Jarmon return, but offensive line still shuffles
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CORVALLIS, OREGON-Aug. 18, 2014–Oregon State Beavers quarterback Sean Mannion (4) as the Beavers began their third week of fall football practice Monday in Corvallis. Photo by Randy L. Rasmussen/The Oregonian
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on August 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, updated August 19, 2014 at 3:06 PM
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Practice No. 19
Prothro Practice Fields
Full pads
Injury report
* Wide receiver Richard Mullaney (ankle) practiced in pads and participated fully.
* Wide receiver Hunter Jarmon (groin) returned to practice and participated fully.
* Linebacker D.J. Alexander (hamstring) returned to practice after more than a week away. Dressed in shorts, he participated in individual drills but was held out of team periods.
* Offensive lineman Fred Lauina left practice with an apparent head injury sustained during a team period. He walked off the field under his own power and, after receiving brief attention from trainers, was kneeling and standing on the sideline.
* Offensive lineman Dustin Stanton (ankle) did not practice. He was walking under his own power but had his ankle taped and received periodic attention from trainers.
* Offensive lineman Will Hopkins (hand) had his arm in a sling and did not practice. He said Monday he expects to be out about four weeks.
* Offensive lineman Grant Bays (undisclosed) did not practice.
* Cornerback Dashon Hunt (hamstring) did not practice, a day after returning to full pads. He ran and did other agility work with trainers on the side.
* Top offensive lineman Isaac Seumalo (foot) did not practice. Coach Mike Riley said earlier during fall camp that Seumalo would have his foot re-examined on Aug. 19 (today) to see if he would be “able to do more work.”
* Fullback Tyler Anderson (leg) did not practice.
* Defensive end Luke Hollingsworth (shoulder) had his arm in a sling and did not practice.
* Safety Cyril Noland-Lewis (undisclosed) did not practice.
* Cornerback Naji Patrick (undisclosed) did not practice.
* Defensive tackle Siale Hautau (undisclosed) did not practice.
Newsworthy
The Beavers will hold a scrimmage Wednesday, though Riley said he was not yet sure of the exact format the workout will take. He planned to decide that later Monday.
“We had a pretty good mix of special teams in the last scrimmage, and I liked that,” Riley said. “So one of the main things about a scrimmage is kind of the change of personnel, substitution and then be able to perform situation stuff, so we’ll probably continue to do that. I’ve got some health issues as far as number of plays and how we can handle that. I’m to the point to where we’ve had a lot of physical work, and now I gotta get this team back a little bit health-wise.”
Highlight
Tight end Connor Hamlett says he almost prefers blocking. But he showed Tuesday why he’s such a valuable receiving target, particularly in the red zone. He overpowered Ty Zimmerman in the back of the end zone, using his size and strong hands to come down with a leaping touchdown catch. A few plays later, he went in motion, tipped a short pass to himself and romped across the goal line. The play earned praise from Riley.
Five observations
From O-Live:
“1. The backup quarterback battle continues to be fascinating to watch. Earlier in fall camp, offensive coordinator John Garrett talked about giving Brent VanderVeen and Luke Del Rio enough reps to gain some rhythm. That wasn’t the case Tuesday, as each got a quick hook following a mistake. The prime example? In the red zone, a VanderVeen pass sailed way high, prompting a stern talk from Riley and a switch to Del Rio. The very next play, Del Rio floated the ball right to Zack Robinson and was promptly replaced by VanderVeen.”
Perhaps this was a planned rotation, not reactionary, and they would have been switched regardless of the outcome of the play? If not, it seems more productive to give them a series and then critiquing the series than pulling them for every bad pass?
I would expect there needs to be a balance between giving people opportunities and holding them accountable, but if this is how VanderVeen and Del Rio are treated, it seems likely they’ll be second-guessing themselves, perhaps over analyzing, and worrying too much about getting pulled immediately for a bad play.
Wow, that was a cut-n-paste error. Just meant to do “1.” on the QB rotation. Apologies.
Apparently a MBB player was taken to the hospital today with a heart condition. Collapsed in practice and has not yet recovered. Bad news.
Chai Baker. Sounds like he’s alive but no other info on his condition. Best wishes for a full recovery
Wheaton doing well.
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2014/8/20/6048283/steelers-markus-wheaton-2014-outlook-injury-history
That’s great to hear. I hope he has a full, healthy season and I think the production will follow. Watching guys like Wheaton, or Victor Butler, lose time to injury, demonstrates how tenuous pro careers can be; lose too much time and they’ll simply replace them. I’d hate to see Wheaton’s potential lost for reasons outside of his control. I think guys like he and Cooks can become great reps for OSU if they stay healthy.
Really sad about Chai Baker hope he is ok
Sounds like Rahmel Dockery was out the last week and a half with a concussion. He’s back practicing now and seems to be making a case for time in the receiver rotation. Good to hear there’s another guy who could potentially fill a spot. Saw him at practice the other night and from the little I saw, he seemed to have good hands and speed.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/wide_receiver_rahmel_dockery_o.html
Official word on Baker is that he had a blood clot, but his heart is good. He was sedated and ventilated throughout the night, but he should be good. No idea on his prognosis or the cause of the clot. Hopefully it’s simple enough for him to recover and live a long, healthy life first… and maybe live his dream within hoops.
Scary shit. We’ve dealt with Killum and Thompson, and it all still sucks major eggs. I wish his family and him all the peace necessary to deal with this, and I hope for a full recovery.
I’m not sure one was available when Thompson went down at Dixon, and I’m pretty sure due to his condition one would not have saved him. But due to that incident a defib was present and readily available and personnel were trained in the use of it for Baker.
The real heroes are always behind the scenes taking care of business. And Brick Squad lives on.
It’s a technicality. That’s why the prognosis is muddy. I’ve seen “reports” that he had a clot from his leg and they put a stint in. I don’t think those reports are true. I don’t know precisely where it came from, but birdies are conjecturing (read: guessing) the lungs. I haven’t heard anything more than he’s good, and it was an embolus or thrombus that caused the incident. That can be a lot of things from several different places. One thing that was brought up is that he’s asthmatic… maybe. There are rare instances where emboli mimic asthmatic conditions and are diagnosed incorrectly.
The important part is that he’s alive and on the road to well.
Hard to say what happened at this point but I a lot of what you said (and what the Oregonian said) don’t make a lot of sense. At this point, we can’t separate the facts from errors. But I do agree that the important point is that he is alive and well.
Article on Obum Gwacham, with some comments at the end that make you wonder:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/oregon-states-gwacham-goes-wr-220444168–ncaaf.html
”It’s a new position but a lot of things still apply. As a receiver you’re going up against a defensive back, now I’m going up against an offensive tackle or a tight end, someone who is a little bigger,” he said. ”You’re still trying to get by them. But I’d say the hardest part is going against someone who is twice your size.”
So it’s not really like trying to get by a DB……
He said what has helped him most is being a quick learner, as well as his work on special teams.
But there are still some things that surprise him.
”It’s funny because the other day we were running a fly sweep. Being on the other side I was usually watching the fly sweep run past the defensive end,” he said. ”This time I was the defensive end and he ran right by. When that happened I was like, ‘Ah, now I know what they feel like.”’
So even with that perspective as an offensive player, he didn’t know how to read and react to the fly sweep and was surprised by it? Seems kind of strange.
IDK man. You’ve got these little 5’7″ dudes who run 4.4 40’s that probably disappear from view behind offensive linemen, and they’re probably to you in less then 2 seconds after the ball is snapped. It’s been one of our marquee plays for the last 5-6 years. We run it every single game so every team we play know it’s coming at some point, and I can’t recall a single time the carrier didn’t get past the D end. They maybe got tackled for little or no gain by a DB or backer, but the beauty of it is the end has no time to react. Easier said then done.
Fair enough, he’s just expressing that now he knows how they feel.
With a name like Watch-um, what do you expect?
Context. He is seeing it from a different angle and verbalizing a reaction from two separate perspectives. He seems to be saying ” you have to be there”. No amount of x and o’s on paper or film, or Madden can totally prepare you for how quick you need to react to the fly sweep as a de.
BeaverBlazer…did you make it to the practice? It was truly a ‘neat’ experience. I felt like a recruit for an afternoon…saw the trophy room/coaches office in the valley center thanks to coach Banker letting us in to look around! I didn’t realise how small our trophy collection really is…1 PAC-10 title….ya, I wasn’t too impressed by the collection, but was impressed by seeing the trophies up close. Gotta see loge, club, and suite levels. They’re really nice. Then we went and watched the rest of practice and after practice Riley came up the steps to meet us and shook his hand and he signed the footballs the marketing staff gave us. There were only 3 of the winners showed up or we’re able to come. Then he got to talking about the stadium and mentioned verbally how the valley center will look when completed. North endzone will be mirrored to the south endzone. The tunnel will move from the ramp to behind the endzone with the new lockerroom under the stands. So it will leave the west side to being completed last and done “sometime in our lifetime.” According to Riley.
Forgot to add that Sara, marketing gal that have the tour said that there is a waiting list for the loge section and not much clamouring over more suite or club level. So west side will most likely be an updated version of what is currently over there now with the addition of a larger loge section that will mirror the east side. That won’t be for awhile though.
Hey Beavers4life, yeah, I was there too with one of my buddies. We both really enjoyed the experience of getting to see all of the behind the scenes stuff. We totally lucked out that Banker was right there to let us in the trophy room. That was my first time getting to see a Hiesman up close and personal. I took a few photos of the trophies, including Cook’s Biletnikoff award and “1st round pick game ball”.
https://twitter.com/BeavBlazer/status/501631421979430912/photo/1
https://twitter.com/BeavBlazer/status/502192660917276673/photo/1
I had no idea what the Loge section was up until that visit. It looks like it would be pretty cool to sit there, but I think they said the donation alone for those seats is $18K, with a waiting list!
Did you notice that Riley said the Valley Football Center would look “really pretty neat” when it’s all finished? Was really cool of him to take the time to chat with us and sign our footballs. Definitely an evening well spent.
Very cool.
Benny is giving us a chance to change the 3rd/4th quarter music again. Our chance to influence what will replace the chainsaw song.
They should class the joint up with symphonic classical music.
I don’t think I ever agreed with you more BG.
I was gonna go with “Also Spoke Zarathustra” (Deodato’s version). But I figured that would be too long. So I figured “Fanfare for the Common Man” would be the way to go.
Then I remembered this song. It’s got a chainsaw and everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD3vFi-Q5hE
Actually, I posted this as a sort of joke. But it’s old school, which makes me like it that much more. And I can see the stadium rocking with the “hip hop hooray, ho, hey, ho, hey, ho.”
THAT’s where Riley got it….
Me likey, like Mike Riley, hey, ho, hey, ho…
Please let it not be hillbilly crap.
After last year’s garbage, I wouldn’t mind going back to AC/DC again. Maybe a little medley of the intro to “Are you Ready?” followed by “Thunderstruck” ?
Although I clicked into Benny’s youtube link above, and it has 4 songs already chosen for us to vote from. All better than Chainsaw, but still none are the ‘right’ song.
Thunderstruck is awesome until Johnson chimes in. That is one of Angus’ best riffs. But I can’t stand Johnson’s vocals on any song. And it seems he’s getting more shrill as time passes.
He does have good taste in cars.
For Those about to Rock…….Walk All Over You…..You Shook Me All Night Long……so many good options.
For Those About to Rock is decent. The others are bullshit except that the band gets to play. There’s really not much in the AC/DC catalog that is good for stadiums filled with people who might have families… or such… unless you want to go with sub-standard stuff like you listed. You might as well start talking about about playing REO Spudwagon as far as I’m concerned. TNT is another stadium standard, and it’s decent. It’s just used. If I were to choose one AC/DC song, I would go with (not The Jack) Let There Be Rock.
But even that’s not inspiration enough to make me feel like I need to debate myself over the value of peeing now or later.
Give me something unique and engaging. Or just fall back on tried and true until someone with an inkling of creativity comes up with an idea. I don’t expect the godsmacking AD at OSU to do anything creative. So I guess I vote for #2.
Wait… fuck me… I should have read your list.
Still… they’re not stadium songs.
I hope by #2, you meant poo and not Pitbull.
I don’t know who it is. I’m certainly not going to search out any of those songs for my personal library.
I’m surprised Seven Nation Army isn’t one of the choices.
I know how to throw people for a loop. Play “Rock and Roll (Part 1).”
Agree 100% on AC/DC.
Back in black has good songs on it. But after that the vocals are so fucking grating I just can’t stand to listen past the opening riff.
Hells bells was our entrance song in high school…
Just linked… wow.
#1 is just boiler plate get the crowd pumped up music played at every stadium where boring is the norm. NFL stadiums come to mind. #2 is pop disco hip hop that is actually decent but has no place in a stadium. Both are still better than that hillbilly chainsaw crap we had to endure last year.
#’s 3 and 4 are crap. WTF man?
I’m gonna write in Sepultura’s Orgasmatron.
Nothing like a good Motorhead cover.
How about the opening chords to Green Grass and High Tides? Keep the aggie alumni happy by having a country/southern twang…first 45 seconds are the build and the next 20 the beavers storm the field!
I love(d) that band!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk
I like a bunch of AC/DC, but agree it’s pretty standard fare for this kind of application. If you’re going to go for one of theirs, “Anything Goes” is probably most appropriate, especially if OSU had the lead going into the half. The song has “It’s a long way to the top” + “Money talks” genetics in it, and it would be easy for the cheerleaders to dance to. The only problem is its about a girl with whom, apparently, anything goes. Like Jack said, most lyrics not family friendly.
If one is not looking for an obvious lyrical allegory, one could consider the Black Keys “Howlin’ for You” or “Gold on the Ceiling” for the crowd to enjoy. Not perfect for the application, but better than the standard fare in my opinion.
Poppy, crowd friendly, stadium application: Lenny Kravitz “Dig In.” Kind of like sonic cotton candy, nothing really there, just disappears with no nutritional value….
Then there’s John Lee Hooker’s “Boom Boom,” though he’s not talking about hitting football opponents…
For the Mike Riley “These-kids-need-to-find-their-identity” angle there’s Bobby Bare Jr.’s “Don’t Follow Me (I’m Lost).”
Agree with Jack: “Give me something unique and engaging. Or just fall back on tried and true until someone with an inkling of creativity comes up with an idea. ”
OSU marketing just can’t come up with unique and engaging fan engagement.
After watching Romaine kick in practice Monday night, I would think this is a non-issue anyway. He repeatedly missed uncontested field goal attempts while the team was practicing time management drills. And when he wasn’t missing field goals, he was off practicing punts? Is he the backup punter? Just seemed like he was treating practice time as f-around time. Seemed like one of the least engaged players on the field, of which there were more than I would have expected.
The lettuce is wilting early this year.
Yeah I was at Mondays evening practice also, it got so much worse than him punting on the sideline. It was pretty embarrassing to watch how little he was engaged, opposed to Garrett Owen and Keith Kostol who were at least watching the practice and would huddle up when coaches wanted to explain things. It was so bad.
Sounds like an attitude issue. He was always a strange duck, even as kickers go. But it sounds like he just doesn’t want to be there.
We may be seeing Owens sooner rather than later.
One note…
Those practices we all attend are taped. And when coaches review the tape (multiple times), they see the same things we do when they’re not concentrating on what’s in front of them in the moment. Slackers get called out, even if they’re just the K.
From where I was sitting (east sideline) I could hear Riley say to himself, “I guess 4th times the charm? ” while shaking his head in disbelief that they had missed 3 straight. And 2 of those misses weren’t even close.
Bone, are there always a handful of guys screwing around on the sidelines throughout practice? What are they even doing there? It looks like it’s the punting team, Seeley in particular. Just playing grabass and throwing footballs at these 2 dipshits who were driving around in a golf cart.
During the day practices no. During the nights practices it’s a much more laid back practice, especially when they are doing special team work, there will be some players tossing a football on the sideline, nothing outrageous about that., when they get into offense and defense there isn’t anything really happening on the sidelines. What Romaine did Monday night was so out of the ordinary, he was talking up the girls in the stand throwing the ball at them, messing around with a bag strap for a long time. Never have I seen anything like that.
Playing with your bag strap in public is never a good sign.
He had some cringe worthy quotes at the end of last season where he was pretty much saying he was done.
Yeah, I remember that. I think he was commenting on another kicker’s comments about his heart not being into football and how Romaine was agreeing with that sentiment.
Here is what I was referring to…
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/11/oregon_states_trevor_romaine_f.html
Is he the one that challenged OSU fans to come and kick against him?
I would. But only Roshambo and i go first
Dog bites Man—shocking footage!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11385221/legarrette-blount-leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-set-face-misdemeanor-marijuana-possession-charges
for those of us that have been locked in a closet, the men’s hoops schedule has been announced.
http://www.osubeavers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=750187&SPID=127160&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=30800&Q_SEASON=2014
You came out of the closet?
yes, while in there I discovered my “2 hole”
I think there’s should be one more game added, either Nov 30/Dec 1 or Dec 23/27. I would like it to be a decent-strong Mountain West opponent (Fresno St, SDSU, Boise St, Nevada, UNLV, New Mexico, SJSU) on the road.
Where in the hell is Bruce Read when all of this is happening? The man is paid 200 k to do exactly what?
Excellent question.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_beavers_linebacke_11.html
Loved this article. Perhaps Ugwoegbu can tutor Kyle Peko.
Love this quote: “It gives me chills to think that one day I’ll be at that spot. I can’t wait to take on this program.”
That’s some needed attitude on the team.
My guess is that’s the main benefit of recruiting so hard in Texas. High school football is a different animal there (and in the south in general.) Kids come out much more serious/prepared. The only program I know of that exemplifies the southern mentality on the West Coast is De La Salle (another place we heavily recruit). Besides them everything’s a little more laid back here on the west coast, and kids are given so many more options to explore athletically. Probably why the PAC 12 wins the majority of National Championships, but rarely in the mens big 3 anymore.
Susac hit his first homer last night at Wrigley: http://m.giants.mlb.com/sf/video/v35531941/?partnerId=as_mlb_20140821_30176326
Re: the fourth quarter song
So after hours and hours of scouring the internet (truthfully… five seconds on the google typing “sports songs”), I have found the one and only song that can and should be used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGbqGkS1c2w
They’re also wearing orange and black!
C’mon Jack, we all know you’ve been online since this conversation started yesterday, searching for the perfect song. Nice pick
If it were up to me there would be an actual DJ making custom choices for each PA play instead of canned marketing crap. But that’s just me.
The answer to the Bruce Read question above?
http://www.gazettetimes.com/the-daily-dose-silver-lining-to-wide-receiver-injury-problems/article_7498288c-295c-11e4-864d-0019bb2963f4.html
Why in hell would you redshirt someone who either doesnt want to be there, or has some disciplinary problem? Kick him out.
Agreed. From what I saw of his antics at practice the other night, he’s becoming a cancer. Some of the young guys on the punting team who should be looking up to the upperclassmen, are learning some bad work ethic and habits from him
never won a game in the clutch, that I can recall; would have probably blown a last second kick in the CW last year if it had come down it. Didn’t he miss the PAT that sent us into overtime vs. Sac State? Didn’t hit the makeable FG at the end vs.EWA last year. Time to move on
If I remember right Lettuce wasn’t going to play last year until our snapper talked him into staying another year. Sounds like his motivation has finally reached new lows and it’s time to move on.
Heh… heh, heh… heh… you said snapper.
It’s our fault, we never showed him how to kick!
(https://twitter.com/OSU12K/status/396504281877975040)
Maybe we could have moved his locker to the left in order to make it a better angle for him?
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Latest on Baker:
http://www.jcfloridan.com/sports/article_f9e6f798-2975-11e4-88da-0017a43b2370.html
Anyone out there know what cardiovascular insult/shock is?
Jack,
Here you go!! Sounds like Chai became dehydrated. Tinkle tweeted today that he’s responding and has 100% brain function. Good thing he wasn’t alone when he collapsed.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/150464-the-effects-of-dehydration-on-the-cardiovascular-system/
Tweeter should have tinkled to get him water. Thank God for fast action . Assistant coaches have already earned their keep.
Time to keep two extra Gatorade coolers with ice water and regular breaks every 20-30 minutes to hydrate the entire team.
It seems odd. Maybe something’s wrong with the guy’s mechanism that tells you you need water. Who gets to this point when there’s 100 gallons of water within 50 feet? It seems like something that happens when you’re lost in the desert.
At one point earlier this year, I had an experience where I had been outside on a hot day, for only a short time doing some yard work. I wasn’t working very hard and didn’t feel thirsty or show any signs of being tired, but when I finished, I went back inside and my blood pressure suddenly dropped. I nearly fainted and my wife said my face turned ghost white. I rested and eventually ended up seeing the doctor because it had us both worried. He couldn’t find anything wrong with my cardiovascular system and said my symptoms point more towards some type of viral infection coupled with dehydration. It took a few days to feel normal again, and I haven’t felt that way since. It just came on really suddenly and with no warning.
I’m just wondering if something similar hit him, but since he was really pushing his body, maybe it hit him more severely? I could have very easily lost consciousness, and I wasn’t nearly exerting myself the way he was.
Some love for Sean.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/1435859.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/08/21/college-football-revolution-young-fan-investment-attendance/14201037/
Maybe since the schools are getting soooo much TV revenue over the next couple of years, they should look into reducing donation/ticket prices, and spending more on game day experience.
We’ve talked about this problem on here more than a few times. In my section, within talking distance, I am the only person younger than a half century. Seven rows in front of me there’s a couple around my age. I am now 31, and I am by far the youngest person in my section. I have been the youngest person in my section since I started buying season tickets, 9 years ago. I sit on the 35 yard line, old side, 17 rows up. Prime seating for young fans with a good job and money to spend.
Rahmel Dockery is apparently the favorite to return punts and kicks.. Looking as his film i must say damm! I have no idea of the comp level in the Seattle area but this guy was impressive coming out of HS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGv6RKJYuF8
Lets hope it’s something other than fair catching which is all we were allowed to do the past 2 seasons.
Sounds like qb commit Pensyl helped rally his team late for the win tonight
http://www.oregonlive.com:80/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/james_pensyl_oregon_state_beav_1.html
He erased the deficit.
So it is written.
ASSES!!! I am James’ aunt Lisa and I can’t believe you sons of BITCHES are trying to make fun of our family name! Like hello? ALL of us have been hearing remarks like that our entire lives! You’re NOT funny! James loves coach Riley and OSU but ASSHOLES like you show that no matter where he goes, someone will sit back on their broken office chair in their mommys basement and take shots at his/our name. I will have you know that Rupert J Pencyl was an admiral in the Navy and was James great grandfather. He fought for your freedom wearing his name plate that says “Pencyl” with honor you jerk. I thought maybe the message board would have something good to say or fans would be excited about his game or that hes committed to the Beavers but I guess I was wrong! And don’t write me off as just some crazy Pencyl scribbling haphazardly. All im saying is think of how James would feel. He’s a kid and you’re all 35+ old asses. Hope you sleep well at night!
That is a pretty fake account. Hope we hear more from this one this season.
*That is a pretty funny fake account
So… you not only make fun of my service, you make fun of all listed here.
http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112041639961;view=1up;seq=580
And apparently you like to lie or speak ill of someone named Rupert J. Pencyl.
Before you try and backtrack on all your really really insulting lies about the US Navy, just know that there is no Rupert J Pencyl who was commissioned at the time that list in the link was formed. So that means There was nobody named Pencyl who was either commissioned or retired as an officer in this man’s navy… ever.
You can go away now.
If you would like to discuss anything Navy, you have come to the right place. I can count about 75 of the names on that list as relatives of mine. And that’s just a list of officers. That number easily quadruples if we’re counting enlisted personnel.
You can take your fake rage and shove it up your ass you fucking liar.
Oh… and even if you weren’t a liar who hates the military enough to just flat out lie about it… even if you were telling the truth… I know… this is one whacko hypothetical…
… you’re asking people to feel sorry for a star HS QB.
Do you even know how obscenely pathetic that in itself is? Now add your lies about military service.
I can’t offend as many people as you just did if I tried.
And trust me… I’ve tried.
I know there was never an officer named Pencyl. But just for fun I typed “admiral pencyl” into the google machine. This, Lisa, aunt of James, is the fruit of your lies.
http://www.thinkipp.com/product/Admiral_Pen_Pencil_Set_388232
-and-
http://www.jacobbromwell.com/admirals-copper-pencil
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http://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/custom-pencils/admiral-pencil.htm
So you see… other than just insulting US military service personnel past and present, you have now made this a game which you will lose 10 out of 10 times.
I would have just told you to get over yourself if you wouldn’t have chosen to insult American service members. I think a HS QB has enough ego to get over some blog from somewhere out there. If he has any issues, let him come here and speak for himself (like that doesn’t evoke more of the manhood bullshit that led to all the lies and insults by this mystery Lisa anyway?).
The last recruit who came here and spoke for himself was someone named Brandin Cooks. It’s too bad the world has forgotten him, because I thought he was just one cool dude… before he suited up as a Beav.
I honestly don’t know why these lies piss me off so much. They’re just words on a blog. I should not feel any verklempt of any kind when someone just goes off and shits on military service like this.
They’re just words on a blog. I need to just tell myself that over and over.
At least I haven’t yet called her a Duck. I wouldn’t want to wake up tomorrow and reread all this and have to apologize to her for that insult.
Fucking pathetic.
How Aunt Lisa got her name!
The pencil test – CollegeHumor Post
http://www.collegehumor.com/post/5766999/the-pencil-test
Nov 12, 2009 – If you can stick a pencil between your boobs and it stays..you pass the test. Teachers fucking make the tests! View “The pencil test” and more …
Being the idiot I can be, I continued to incorrectly spell Pensyl last night. There was a Pensyl who was a Commander and retired in 1982.
So we can stop making fun of names now. His name was not Rupert J Pensyl, and he was not an admiral. His name was listed as “Pensyl J Dick.”
That’s not funny. Stop laughing BG!!!! I’m serious! Stop typing now!!!!
In case you thought I was making this up… reality trumps fiction:
http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112041639961;view=1up;seq=581
So what started as something harmless and barely reaching the level of sophomoric has now become a reality which trumps any humor any of us can create on our own. And it’s all thanks to the lies and fake outrage of mommy’s sister while she so valiantly defends a high school jock.
Is this happening? Where’s Pankey’s mom when we need her?
The only thing better would be if his first and middle names were Thin and Mustache.
pensyl dick
Geez, with characteristics like this, bury the kid at FB when LB is a need? I like Snyder’s idea better than Riley”s.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/fullback_ricky_ortiz_oregon_st.html
With Ty Anderson missing so much practice and Riley’s underutilization of the FB position recently, I’m concerned that that is a part of the O which will be pretty much ignored, again, this time around. Hope I am wrong.
For a LB these days you need the best combination of speed/size/smarts you can get to cover the field against read-option teams like UO.
Fucking.
Awesome.
Kick wilting Lettuce off the team right now and give this kid a scholarship.
That was my thought. If Ortiz is truly on top of Riley’s list for getting a ship, then why is Romaine’s absence not filled by this kid?
The only thing I can think is that there is some rule about giving ships at the beginning of fall camp, and those ships stick for the season. So that means when fall camp began we could have started with 85 shipped kids. And even if all of them quit we could not give out any more ships until after the season.
Beavers are indeed mediocre and apathy is setting in
This post was prompted by the John Canzano article on the Beaver’s mediocrity and the Wall Street Journal’s coaches record vs the Top 25. The Beavers have been mediocre over the 5 past years with 0 big time victories and a number of bad losses. Overall, Riley’s record vs the Top 25 is 13-39. Over the past 5 years it is only 3-19, over the past 3, a very poor 1-11.
The Beavers had a very good run for 3 years during the 2006 thru 2008 seasons with a number of great wins and no really bad losses. They did not build on this success. The past 5 seasons have been mediocre to say the least and apathy is setting in among the fan base. Note the source of the Rankings below is from Sagarin’s season end rankings.
Oregon State Beavers 2009 thru 2013/ 2006 thru 2008
Overall Record 32-31/ 28-12
Pac 12 Record 23-22/ 19-8
Wins vs teams with < 5 losses 0 / 7
Wins vs Top 10 0 / 3
Losses vs teams ranked 52 or lower 6 / 0
vs Top 20 0-18 / 4-8
vs Top 25 3-19 / 6-8
Civil War 0-5 / 2-1
First time on AB?
First time I have posted, I have read for a few years.
http://www.gazettetimes.com/blogs/beavers-blog/the-daily-dose-more-day-games-on-horizon-for-beavers/article_b2a1ffc2-2bb4-11e4-a7c6-0019bb2963f4.html
Not sure if it’s been mentioned already, but why so many hamstring injuries? Are we not warming up properly? Not enough stretching?
I know hamstring injuries can be long lasting and nagging (having pulled one myself) but shouldn’t someone be monitering these athletes to ensure they’re stretching and warming properly to try and prevent as much of this as possible?
I you’re too much of a stud, the muscles in your legs get out of balance, and the front is much stronger than the back of your leg. Plus, working out your hamstrings is not much fun.