Per Mamma Machado.
Beavs offering 1.5mil max for the job. Sooo lame. That will not sit well with the fanbase and pretty much limits the options to OCs, DII coaches, and lower level retreads. No wonder BDC is out in EWU. Ed Ray needs to go. He has zero commitment to athletics.
Created a new Twitter hash is #angrybeavnation
With Riley gone, I am going after the media next, and ask you guys to join me. The shit they’re writing is inane. In short, boycott the Oregonian. I’ll be writing a detailed post how to block all their trackers and ads, too, if you do accidentally visit the site.
Matt Wells could be gotten for that. He makes 575K base salary at USU.
His buyout is significant, but I think we could swing it. Particularly if we put a similar buyout into his contract.
^ See my edit. Boycott the Oregonian.
Notice I didn’t link Goe’s article in the last thread? Not linking anymore of their negative whoa is OSU bullshit
I did, and good work. I’m asking everyone to not even visit the site. They live off ad revenue, so just don’t even go there and you choke them off. Let them see if they can live off the Duck fans reading it only.
Also another reason I am against Baldwin. Until there is a bigger commitment from the university any FCS coach that comes here will fail miserably. But but but, Chip Kelly. CK was the OC at Oregon for a few years before being promoted to HC. At fucking OREGON people. Where they throw all the money Fill Knight gives them at football. He was set up to succeed just nicely. It also happens that he is a good football mind. Anyone else think Chip Kelly would rip off the same success he had at UO in Corvallis? Bobby Hauck just failed miserably at UNLV. Where they have similar constraints and aging facilities. I am just flabbergasted that with the Pac-12 $$$ now coming in, even though it is less than was anticipated, the commitment continues be lacking from the university.
Same with Tressel at Ohio St. Tons of resources. Who else has successfully made the leap?
Agreed Angry, I finally had to register with the Oregonian after reading Ken’s last article and rebuff him in the comments section. Just absolute garbage coming from the paper, totally bad mouthing the school and area. I am calling tomorrow to have the delivery of the paper stopped and will let them know why.
That is fantastic. They live off online ad revenue/data mining, too. I will be posting a detailed explanation how to block all that soon. We can literally cut off the entire OSU readership, and we should. F them. They’re being completely biased, immature, and want OSU to fail. Well, they are going down with this fanbase if I have anything to say about it.
Goe deletes any comments he doesn’t like.
That’s what I like about this place. While I hate what some of you say sometimes and think it’s out of line or crude, you can still say it here. And I can say I don’t like it. And you can tell me to F off. And it’s all good.
Too many places on the internet these days worried about not offending anyone and being all mamby-pamby nice-nice. This is a refreshing change.
Ya wanna get Goe’s goat? Say negative shit about UO. Throw it right back in his face. He’s a fucktard
No, that just generates more hits for his articles if you do it in the comment section. If you do it on twitter you’re just wasting time that could be better spent trying to shut down his revenue. $ is the only thing that hurts in the final analysis. He’d get over insults about the Ducks. He won’t get over losing his job due to a revenue collapse.
you got me there. But you can write shit on twitter. #GoesucksPKballsweat
ya know, I now may have to start a Faux Ken Goe twitter account. Heh heh heh
Those only work with famous people
Yep, this is horseshit. About ready for a fire Ed Ray campaign if 1.5 million is the max. 1.7 or 1.75 a much better number. Can’t be that far behind the rest of the Pac-12 in salary. Commitment from university needs to be raised. We should have 300K left from going cheap with Tinkle. Football needs more than this. Thought is with buyout included Wells could be had in the 1.7 to 1.75 range. Give Wells or the next coach enough resources to compete. If Baldwin was hired then you can pay 1.4 to 1.5. The better names deserve a higher committment. We have raised a billion in the campaign for OSU for crying out loud. Ed Ray you need to value the impact of successful sports at a major university. We expect better than this and that we strive for a high benchmark in both academics and athletics.
Where does all the money go? Wazzu is paying the pirate 2.75 million dollars, and I don’t see them declaring bankruptcy.
The Pirate brings in lots of captured booty. Shiver me timbers.
Frost if offered also should earn 1.7 to 1.75 million. Less doesn’t cut it. He clearly deserves an interview. Let him and Wells duke it out for this job.
1.5 max is fine if it includes a 1.5 bonus for winning civil war, and 1.5 for P12 title, and 1.5 for national title.
Don’t you know? That’s what Riley had! ;-)
Agree 1.5 is absolute base. Give Frost or Wells 500K bonus for 9+ wins and a good size bonus for winning the Civil War. Frost definitely has that presence I believe Wells also has. I have increasing confidence in Frost. Him and Wells are real deal and deserve some investment. Frost like Tinkle stands tall. He will have a strong offense at Oregon State and I am sure he would choose a good DC. Quit the poor act DeCarolis and Ray. Invest im some success at Oregon State and make your alums and students proud.
Angry, what’s your opinion of hiring Scott Frost, Duck ties aside?
I like him
These guys are NOT shy about their opinions of Nebby hiring Riley:
http://coacheshotseat.com/coacheshotseatblog/archives/23042
“The 61-year old Mike Riley who leaves an Oregon State football program in Corvallis…..where two of us here at Coaches Hot Seat just spent a day-and-half asking people about OSU football….an almost DEAD football team in our opinion that a month ago lost to a…
4 – 8 Washington State team on its HOME field!
There is no logical or common sense explanation for Nebraska hiring Mike Riley short of the Nebraska AD being one of the…
Stupidest Damn People on Planet Earth”
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“Oh…we almost forgot Nebraska just did something that only ONE other school has done in the EIGHT college football seasons that Coaches Hot Seat has been in existence…
It hired a coach on the Hot Seat!”
What a great article…I almost liked the Riley “enthusiatic” fist pump photo better than the analysis. Only MR could do a fist pump and look brain dead.
Hip, hip,……
fuck you
not you. Riley
It would have been so awesome if Riley held a presser on his way out, Riley-grin on his face, the only words being:
“Hip hip fuck you!!!”
I’m fast becoming a fan of yours Scotty. From your excellent radio call and now this. I’m going to have to exchange my Mike Riley Hip Hip socks now just because of your post. Hilarious!
Haha, thanks
They beat Arizona worse than they beat us!
Ducks beat Arizona worse than they beat us!
What does that say?
It says Arizona is 2-1 against the Ducks in their last three games.
Damn, you’re creating new posts so fast I can’t keep up!
How accurate are her sources likely to be? First of all, is Frost really going to be interviewed, and is the amount correct?
Unless Frost is just really, really sharp and organized, this would not be a hire I like. Even though he’s not an “Oregon” guy, it would create the perception of trying to copy the Ducks. Wouldn’t he likely implement the same or similar offense?
Everyone’s heard that Riley is babbling about Frost and the thought of him being Riley’s OC (apparently Garrett will be set adrift)……I wouldn’t mind getting Frost to stop any Nebraska master plan for the short run. Of course, Frost will just leave OSU after Riley get canned.
I’ve always hated NU football just after the Ducks.
If Riley hires Frost, Frost will be the HC after one year. There has to be an Aesop fable about this…
Riley said something like….”I was thinking about Scott Frost on the plane ride”……I don’t know if that was at his presser or some other interview.
Fuck it. Frost 1A. Wells 1B. No one else has a better read on how to beat Helfrich and Oregon than Frost. Make Nebraska suffer without Frost if OSU gets him and wins. He is ready to be a head coach and we can be the ones who recognized it and benefit. Have a good feeling about this. Get this done BDC. We can be good and relevant and Frost will do that for OSU. Let him show Helfrich he is the brains.
I like Frost……,hated him as a player because he was so fucking good running the option……but if he comes to OSU as the HC he will be replacing Riley within 3-5 years as the NU coach. NU fans adore Scott Frost, it takes them back to a time that is not going to happen again.
That would only happen if he does well here. I’d take it.
Would be interesting to know how serious Frost is, cause at 1.5 million it doesn’t appear BDC is serious.
Everybody who contacted, agrees to be intervied, it’s a great way to get a raise.
Emailed Ed Ray, DeCarolis and Massari calling for Scott Frost hire. Feel passionate it would be a home run. Also let them know I thought Wells was a triple and excellent backup option and to please invest in success. Told them we need to be closer to 1.75 million with nice bonuses for 9+ wins and Civil War victories.
good luck with that. OSU can offer Frost all they want. PK will just look around in the ashtray of whatever he’s escorted in and POOF!
Who are the coaches that are on the interview list that Momma Machado mentioned? No way in hell am I going to sign up for BeaverBlitz to find out.
The 1.5 max could be completely false… I’ll wait until there’s more proof that just one post.
Hope we can have a hire in 7 days. We should at least start hearing more rumors I’d think as next Friday gets closer. If we can at least know the “final 4” or so I’ll feel a lot better. I don’t like the uncertainty.
If the Ducks win the NC Beavs will get some windfall, right? Anyone know how much?
Such a whirlwind of rumors, someone txt me when any concrete news comes through? It’s fun to speculate but damn I’m busy.
Per Eggers anonymous source within athletic department:
• A source close to the OSU athletic department said AD Bob De Carolis and deputy AD Mark Massari are quickly putting together a search committee.”It will be Bob and Mark and one, maybe two others,” the source says. “It’s going to be small, and it’s going to be fast. You get your four or five candidates, you get on a plane and meet with them, and you make a decision.”I think it will happen within a week — 10 days at the most. You have to do that for recruiting, and also to help ensure the players on your team aren’t moved to transfer.”
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/242895-110301-how-nebraska-oregon-state-are-moving-forward-with-without-mike-riley
Ed Ray doesn’t care about athletics because he has a school that is making impressive strides academically. Far more important. Have you seen the new construction projects and seen the better talent coming in for research and instruction? The broader scope of research going on? As a university it’s going swimmingly. The Campaign for OSU raised so much money and that was spearheaded by Mr. Ray. Fire him? Eff that, his raise he just got was very well deserved.
You guys can be so silly.
Ed is doing swimmingly for academics and wasn’t really wanting him fired at all. But this is a hugely important hire and it is time Ed embrace athletics as a contributing part of our mission. If a billion can be raised for academics it only takes a small slice of it or some more effort for athletics in addition and we would be on much sounder footing. They don’t need to go cheap. There is more acting of limited funds than there needs to be. Time for an athletics campaign or bringing it along on the ride for future efforts in the Campaign for OSU as a 5-7% benefactor. That is 50-70 million right there to help see that we are raising the entire university together.
I read somewhere via OSUProf that a portion of the $1B does go to the AD. Can’t remember the figure but it was a pretty big chunk.
Prof also says Ray has been supportive of athletics and that the real problem lies in DeCareless (duh). Also mentions Bob The Destructor spends less on football than he could (approved by the school) and that it’s BDC’s call, not the president’s. If true Ray needs to apply pressure and spend the necessary amount.
Beancounter Bob!
I had a landlord once that was a beancounter. That sumbitch was the cheapest ass there ever was.
The more I think about a Scott Frost hire the more I’m on board. Not only would you be getting an up and coming talent who is hungry to grow as a coach, but you’d also be causing a huge disruption to your in state rival’s program, in the midst of a potentential championship run. The timing is excellent.
Hiring would have to happen in the next week and Frost would have to assemble a staff as well as contact recruits so he can start his head coaching career strong. Even if her were to finish out the season coaching for Oregon, he’d be only partially commited to that job with his foot out the door. Even better, he could poach some of the Oregon support staff on the way out.
Would be a statement head coaching hire as well as a massive Fuck You to Phil Knight’s program. I’m all in at this point.
oh that would be the ultimate envy with ducker fans. Hey! You can’t beat us so you have to pluck one of our coaches to do so and emulate us. Fuck that! UO is not the be all end all of coaching or football for that matter. Their free fall back to earth is coming. Mariota the savior is gone after this year. Relax
besides, you think OSU can beat Fill Knight in the money department? Scott Frost is not going to be the next OSU coach. Money talks and Fill Knight has a shitload of it. Jesus, He’d PAY Scott Frost to go away and NOT come to Corvallis. God some of you are dense. Think about it!!!!!!
Knight can’t give Frost a Pac-12 Head Coaching gig with Helfrich holding that position. OSU can. The man is a Pac-12/Big Ten guy and wants to compete for Rose Bowls as a head coach. His goals and Oregon State’s align in that respect. If hired he probably would do an excellent job at OSU and help raise our bar. That is good for the state and making the rivalry intense on the gridiron again. Also good for the Pac-12. With more success we might not be relegated to so many night games. I’m all for all of this.
You think Phil Knight would match an OSU head coaching offer of $1.5-$2M? For an offensive coordinator currently making 400K? There no way he could even justify paying an assistant that much. He’d have to give all of his assistants a huge raise. Frost just got a whopping 30k raise last year so his salary would match their d coordinator.
And if Phil waved his magic wand to get Frost into a hc position at another school, so be it. It still would weaken the staff at UofO and we could still go after another option. Frost is going to get a head coaching gig one way or another. Right now, only a small handful of teams are in position to make him that offer. I think he’d jump at the chance to get such a big raise and become a hc this year rather than sticking around one more year to hope for better offers. Similar to a player deciding whether they should enter the draft or wait for their senior year. He’d be smart to strike now, rather than banking on a better year next year with no Mariota.
you think Fill Knight can’t give someone some $$$$ under the table? Here ya go Scotty. It’s a Christmas bonus.
First off, Frost would never want to go to Corvallis. There will be another school out there way more appealing that he’d take before OSU. You guys give your college more credit then what’s due but good luck in the search. If you can land him great for you guys!
Name another school with a current head coaching opening that would be more desirable? Also consider if that schook would go risk going after an offensive coordinator with no head coaching experience. Colorado State’s in the Mountain West. I dont think Michigan fans would let them roll the dice with this hire. OSU is the best fit currently.
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/coaching_changes.html
I could see him hanging around for another year until something does open up. On top of that you never know what other jobs will open up after the bowl games are over. It’s hard to separate being optimistic and being realistic. Realisticly speaking, I think OSU could find a better coach that has HC experience. Mark Hudspeth or a Justin Fuente.
Hiring Frost would be Bob DeCarolis #1 move to show he has some big balls. I would love to see Bobby D stomp on Rob Mullens.
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/12/amid_scott_frost-to-nebraska_t.html
If you wanted Riley gone so bad why are you pissed NE hired him. If you hate NE so much why the hell are you bawling this should be a win – win for you.
We’re not pissed Nebraska hired him. Many of us are actually quite thankful. It was the only way out of a horrible contract our AD agreed to.
We’re pissed that:
* he preached loyalty and CONSTANTLY talked about never leaving Corvallis, and this and that, and kept people hanging on with the nice-guy hometown guy act, helping to mitigate poor performance… then when the going gets tough due to said bad performance, he bails AGAIN. While we don’t know the exact circumstances, signs point to him being full of hot air. Despite some people’s claims, he was not “run out of town” (though the criticism was rapidly mounting) and he still had a decent base of support.
* he stubbornly refused to make necessary changes to coaching/staff, paying only tepid lipservice in acknowledging that things needed to be fixed.
* he has local media wrapped around his finger to the point of near-lunacy. There is practically a Riley Distortion Field where every shortcoming of his must be a shortcoming of Corvallis or Oregon State, yet every strength must be due to his awesomeness.
I’m sure others would add things to the list (his handling of an alleged rape incident before he bolted the first time, for instance). I like Mike Riley the Man – certainly less than I did a week ago given the first point – but Mike Riley the Coach appeared at the end of his mental rope here.
He is probably a great fit for your program in a lot of ways. The salt-of-the-earth persona, not being a sleazebag, money for better assistance, ability to attract better recruits that can thrive in a pro-style offense, and relatively weak B1G competition should get him at least Bo’s 9+ wins and affection. Don’t think the head-scratchers are going away, though, and if you ever want to get rid of him, it’ll be tough to unite the fanbase because he’s just such a gosh-darn nice guy.
Who’s pissed or bawling here? Point me to them so I can go laugh at their silliness.
I’m serious. Show me someone upset about this on our end so I can go ridicule the moron.
I see a lot of talk about Frost on here I I think it would be a mistake. Our current offence is not set up to run like the ducks and it would be 2-3 years before we would compete with it. Norvell from ASU I think is a better choice. He came into a cupboards bare situation and has had one of the best offences in the PAC for the past 2-3 years. ASU has more money problems than UO, so we may be able to get him fairly cheap (maybe 1 – 1.2) and use the surplus to get the best d coordinator we can buy. I think frost would be expensive and damage the fan base over the next 2-3 years.
I don’t think Frost is coming.
If Frost stays at Oregon now, he might also get a Natty on his resume (bleehhhhh) and be an even hotter candidate for another job next year.
Norvell? He’s probably just getting ready for El Paso.
You can’t hire a guy to fit what you currently have, that is too shortsighted. Anyone you hire has to be looked at as part of a 3-5 year transitional plan.
That said, I disagree, OSU doesn’t have the read option QB needed to run the exact offense the Ducks run but they could integrate much of what Oregon does (if that is what Frost wanted) with current players.
What Oregon really does is create mismatches through scheme and pace. OSU can do that do.
Also, who knows what recruits Frost might be able to flip with a promise of early playing time (travis walker 4 star QB perhaps? Frost is the guy recruiting him).
Lots of variables in play.
I prefer Wells but you can’t be worried about 2015 with this hire, its a hire for 2016-2019.
Yes, but why Frost over Norvell? Norvell has run one of the best offences in the PAC12 the past 3 years. And it has been his offence, with Graham running the defence. Also Norvell has coached in just as many PAC12 championships as Frost. I think Norvell has a better chance to turn us around (keep us from depending farther) and is less likely to get stolen away in the short term. Both Norvell and Frost will be Head coaches someplace in the near future, but Norvell will mitigate transition pains and put us into competition sooner.
I think people are caught up in Frost because he is close and an easy choice.
Also, 3-5 years is going to be too long here.. If someone does not work out in 3-5 years this job will be un-sellable.
3-5 years to reach a peak, if you think someone is gonna walk in and turn this 5-7 team into a 10 win team next year without any players they actually selected (or very few) you have unrealistic expectations. Building a program is a process.
The expectation for next year would be to keep the team competitive (hopefully getting to a Bowl game), then in 2015 the expectation would be a winning record (7 wins minimum), followed by continued growth towards the goal of getting to Pasadena.
Expecting it to happen over night while also installing a long term system is unrealistic.
I want Wells so I don’t care about Frost or Norvell but anyone who is gonna be bringing in a new system (and that needs to happen) needs to be given time to implement the system properly which is a 3-5 year window.
I am a firm believer that you have to give a coach time to bring in their guys and coach them for a few years before you can properly evaluate a coach. Occasionally dumpster fires can be found quicker but in general you need some level of patience.
Do you expect Tinkle to win the make the tourney this year? Next year? No chance this year, next year would be a cool bonus and the NIT is a realistic goal but 2016 is the year Tinkle should get the Beavs into the tourney and if he doesn’t do it by then you need to re-evaluate.
Same with football. Bowl game next year is realistic, improvement in 2016 is expected, competing for significant bowl (Holiday or better) in 2017 is realistic, competing for division/conference by 2018. That is a fair progression (and even that is somewhat ambitious truthfully).
Another recruit down. 4* Khaylan Thomas was ready to flip last week. Now he’s decided to stick with ASU.
http://www.oregonlive.com:80/recruiting/index.ssf/2014/12/khaylan_thomas_4-star_lineback_1.html
Fuck Frost. I’m for Tedford. He’s a good recruiter; he’s good with the boosters, and he will open the offense up. True, his record at Cal was hot and cold. But, if anyone is familiar with the dysfunctional UC system, he did pretty well. Had a heart procedure this fall, but he’s all healed up and he wants back into the college game. He has worked with a lot of guys who became good QB’s: Aaron Rodgers, for one.