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My Girlfriend’s Reaction to Seth Collins (Follow up to my “Headcase” post)

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My lady doesn’t watch the Beavs too much or follow any of this stuff [she doesn’t even read my blog], so I decided to randomly run Seth Collins by her and get some feedback. I played her the StS media day interview and his other interview on YouTube.

Her impression: “He seems like the type of guy who would get into off the field problems like bar fights” ..”or lose his cool and get into a locker room fight.” And my favorite: “He seems like a guy who would sleep with another player’s girlfriend.”

Haha. I love her.

I then told her I wrote a piece saying he seemed like a headcase, and people got angry with me. She agreed something seemed off about him. She said he looked like a “pretty boy” who was “full of himself.” I said people on the blog got mad at me and argued that after getting smacked around by Michigan he could mature and change, and she said, “Yeah that’s possible, but with guys like him it’s usually ingrained and hard to change.”

Well, that’s a lady’s perspective. My lady is about as well-balanced/normal as women get.

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  1. It usually takes an upperclassmen to straighten out guys like these not games. We’ll see how strong the locker room leadership council is.

  2. BREAKING ALERT: The Joe Beaver Show is back on the air between 12 and 2 Pacific time normal weekdays. You can listen on kejoam.com or via TuneIn.

  3. One perspective that may or may not have anything to do with StS-

    I know that he moved around to different schools in high school, don’t know if that was the only time he got bumped around or whether that was a pattern his whole life. But I can speak from experience, constantly being the new kid sucks and after a while you have a tendency to kind of paint on a clown face for your arrival at your new school, be it tough guy/bad ass, funny guy goofball, nerdy guy, whatever. When I saw that snow cone clowning pic that’s the first thing I thought of, that kid is putting on a cool kid goof around front for his new school. If you notice he’s pretty consistent in clowning around in most pictures I’ve seen.

    • Yeah… it’s hard to assign purpose and maturity to any incoming underclassman in any walk of life. He could have anxiety in front of cameras, and goofing is just how he thinks he can mask that. It was mentioned in another thread that he held his hands up toward the receiver when he grossly overthrew him. Perhaps he knew he did wrong, and that expression was one where he just wanted it back. Unnecessarily helicoptering into an end zone was likely discussed with him since that’s an immediate unsportsmanlike conduct penalty no matter how it’s intended. What’s more disturbing is that any media or adult would celebrate that move.

      We’ll see going forward if the child loses his childish ways and/or overcomes his anxieties (if that is it). He would need to do so at any position and even if he wasn’t an athlete. But if he wants to be the face most recognizable to anyone who sees OSU football, he will need to do so more quickly.

    • At this point, it’s looking like we’ll for sure see Paul Lucas, Seth Collins. Jalen Moore, Xavier Crawford, Noah Togiai, and Ricky Liuchan should be playing. Shawn Wilson is probably on alert. This is based on the most recent scrimmage. I’m somewhat surprised more of the freshmen aren’t playing (Irvine, Aydon, Zach Lucas, Brandel). A lot of newcomers are JC guys like Porebski, DeCoud, Peko too.

      • Deltron Sands should see playing time too

        Last time I saw Aydon he was in a boot(right foot) and barely putting pressure on that leg when walking. Havent heard anything in the past 2 weeks regarding his progress though

        • Did Sands get hurt, like a minor injury that is pretty common? I think I read that but I’m not quite sure. Which would make sense, yeah he’s in the “alert” category. Kinda like a “break glass only if necessary” type deal. And not that Xavier Hawkins BS Riley pulled last year against SC. If two RBs are injured we should be using Sands, but SBW, CB, and DH + Nall & Lucas are a solid group right now.

    • Sadly, Steven Jackson has a lot more time on his hands…..I saw him in person for the first time I was pretty young and every football player looked giant. I was blown away by how massive he is for a running back.

  4. He acts like an immature 18 yr old boy. In about a month there will be few 100 just like him. By the time they leave OSU in 4-5 years, they will mature and become mature adults. Some will remain douchebags. Cut the kid a little slack…

    I follow you on Twitter, and you do a great job with the recruiting info. And you do provide decent info on this blog. However, what I hate, and will always hate about this blog is how quick you are to bash an 18-23 year old who choose to come to OSU. You’re not in Corvallis or even Oregon. What you get is a small sample of what the coaches see every day. I’d have far more respect for you and this blog if didn’t spout off about certain players skills (or lack there of) or attitudes based on the short sample you’ve seen.

    • what I hate, and will always hate about this blog is how quick you are to bash an 18-23 year old who choose to come to OSU

      Why do you hate that?

      If it makes you feel any better, I’ll bash anyone of any age and whether they choose to come to OSU or not, if they are deserving.

      Someone has to bridge the gap between reality and the media. The media calls this guy Air Collins and pats him on the back. My job is to question that narrative if it deserves questioning, and this one sure does.

        • It feels like a job. It’s a lot of work running AB. Too much, for the lack of $ and grief I get. But whatever, the media is so ridiculous I will continue my duty.

      • You mean you’ll bash anyone of any age on the Internet. As funny as your pouting session about not getting a press credential was, I’d actually love to see you get some face to face time with these guys that you “bash”. See if you really have the stones you think you have.

        • This guy whines more about the “no media credentials” topic than you ever did, angry.
          Just…..can’t…..let…..it……go…..

          • I didn’t even want media credentials. I just wanted free tickets. The media pass would be a way to justify trips up there and make finances work.

          • If that’s the case, you should of just asked Fenk if you could of crashed on his couch. That way you have money to buy your tickets and a little leftover since a hotel on a game weekend is more than a couple of tickets.

            Heck, if you want a free ticket let me know and it’ll get one for ya. The only caveat being you have to sit next to me for the whole game.

          • I wonder what color Steve’s couch is.

            That’s what I love about this blog. The important questions in life come up every now and then.

          • Yea, you should check out my blog post about it and all the comments I left with emails from OSU officials. Wait that wasn’t me.

    • Natural sound from offensive coordinator Dave Baldwin to his players on the sideline near the end of practice: “You guys gotta learn the plays. This is getting ridiculous.”

      That doesn’t sound good.

      • actually it does. Riley would be shrugging that stuff off and then wondering why the team got beat by an FCS squad in the first game.

      • You only run 4 or 5 plays in zone read. What’s so difficult? Bubble screen, zone read with seam routes multiple that by two add a qb draw.

        • I think it’s a total of six. The draw is the only meat and potato run required of the QB. That sets up everything else. The seam routes are easy to read pre-snap, which bugs the hell out of me… and everyone else except for Chris Petersen, apparently. Bubble screens are what they are. Inside tackle runs are important to keep the box tight. Off tackle works when all else runs smoothly. The pass-back is probably the one you forgot. It works on the wheel, the late deep drag and sometimes the hitch and go… though rarely… once is enough.

    • Trick plays in the red zone……….

      In one of the recent scrimmage videos there was a few seconds of a play which looked like it took place inside the 5 (the O pinned deep within their own territory) and was a run by Nail for what was either a no gain or a loss.

      So when I see reference to a trick play when within the red zone I’m thinking that it’s possibly an indication that the coaches can’t depend on brute force running plays to get it into the end zone. On the other hand having a few trick plays up your sleeve isn’t a bad thing.

  5. You guys should run the StS interviews by your ladies, or any friends who don’t watch sports, and see what they say. Could be an interesting social study.

  6. Really…? A thread dedicated to confirming your thoughts on SC and one where you use your girlfriend to back it up at that… This site is usually good but this post is a joke, How about we talk about the connections that this new coach is making with alumni or anything else would work.

    • How about we talk about the connections that this new coach is making with alumni or anything else would work.

      Because that’s boring, and you can probably find that anywhere.

        • Picking apart staff and player personalities in here, whether valid or not, is one of the interesting aspects of this site. You don’t get much of that on the other sites, and if I want to hear how awesome everyone is, I’ll listen to Mike Parker.

          • It’s not even picking. To me, picking means going around looking for problems. I never do that. I don’t have the time. I watch all the same mainstream media you guys do, and then if something doesn’t jive with what I’m being told, I write about it.

            Ryan Nall at 250lbs with pain in his knee doesn’t jive. Where is the mainstream media writing about that? They just nod and accept it.

            Seth Collins immaturity doesn’t jive. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is dubbing him “Air Collins”…actually encouraging it.

            I don’t think I ever attacked a player or coach for an invalid reason. And on the flipside, I also point out players I like who have upside the media isn’t seeing. So I don’t see the problem other than, yeah, it is sometimes “uncomfortable” to read about anything but unicorns and fairies, and there’s a group of people don’t like that uncomfortable feeling.

        • I’m just curious what angry’s girlfriend is like. I used to wonder the same about Jack’s imaginary friends, but they’ve been nice enough to answer the mystery by posting once in a while

  7. Probably reading too much into this, but this ESPN post about the 2 QB’s system at Oregon State has one line that I found interesting. Maybe it’s just a poor choice of words to use “tandem”, or maybe it’s just poor reading comprehension on my part (probably the latter)

    he’s apparently examining ways in which he can keep defenses off balance by using his youngsters in tandem.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/90153/oregon-state-set-to-begin-with-two-quarterback-system

  8. Questions:

    In our two QB offense of the future, do we use a formation like a short punt with the RB in the rear? And are the two QBs going to morph into more hefty back types? Obviously a Tebow type who can take the physicality, or truck it himself on this level, would be optimal. But do we look for one of those, even a Lorenzen type (as he was supposed to be under Mumme)… or even two? Or do we go with a thunder and lightning set-up with a gazelle like Moran will be and another QB who can dish blocks or carry it in short yardage as well as pass?

  9. For over thirty years I have thought that football would evolve, would take on some characteristics of Rugby and Soccer. Two qbs on the field at one time, multiple laterals on punt/kick off returns, reduced punting, reintroduction of the drop kick with a successful drop kick being awarded an extra point try for a possible total of four points. But now that I am much older, I think that only additional safety will save football. And to do this, the only logical way is to go back to rugby rules. No blocking or tackling below the waist would revitalize the game and make it much safer. Limited substitution might also help. As for Seth, he is a boy, a spoiled boy to be sure. Yet he is unfairly being branded with a scarlet letter. Most of the criticism of Seth comes from secular religious believers (Nikeists) who take image to be far more important than substance in life. And there lies the rub.

  10. If anybody here is going/went to the team bbq in Portland tonight, would love to hear a recap later. Always been curious what happens at those events but they never fit my schedule.

    • He’s right. I’ve heard more from Sitake in a couple months than I hear from whole swaths of DCs over decades.

      And is the boonie cap with a non-functioning band and no camo under the brim just a way for pretend patriots to sell on the back of Merica? I mean… surplus boonies are $10… any variation you can think of. It’s an awesome shade cap, and I understand the coaches wearing the Nike crap made by pre-teens somewhere because it has our logo on it. But it (the Nike version) is really a terrible cover.

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