Absolutely inept. Only one good play by Lucas when didn’t go down at line of scrimmage, sprung for 73 yards until he was run down if a foot race where he had all the advantage. So 1st and goal at the 8 ended with a missed roughly 35 yard field goal. Otherwise, 1-9? On passing for 1 yard. WA returned s punt for TD.
Yeah it’s strange. My 11 year old step son is a fucking streak of lightning. Can’t even hear his feet touch the ground. Put on real pads this last year and it fucked him all up. Runs really funky, slow and flopping side to side. Odd.
Since this game is a complete waste, i have a football rules question for anybody that knows.
I noticed when the Huskies got their delay of game penalty, the clock kept rolling as they prepared for their next play. Is that normal? Or did t he officials just screw up by not stopping the clock? If the clock keeps running, couldn’t a team just run out the clock by repeatedly getting delay of game penalties?
Posted this in the other thread but didn’t get answer.
So does Noah Togiai get to start practicing with the basketball team immediately after the Civil War and then play in the next basketball game on December 3rd?
I assume he’ll be way behind in learning the schemes, gelling with the team, and just rusty with his basketball skills in general… How much is he expected to play this year?
Seriously, I would be surprised if this team could beat Portland State, they might not even be competitive against them given this current trajectory of both teams.
You’re kidding right? This year’s Portland State team would roll Oregon State. PSU just beat EWU and is headed to the playoffs. They’re a pretty solid team.
I know, they’ve beat two FBS teams already. Kind of interesting that Barney turned a 3-9 team into a playoff team in one year with mostly Burton’s players.
This ain’t gonna get an easier for the players next year. The Pac is only getting better. The coaches better learn how to use their players to their strengths or it will be another ugly year.
It’s probably going to be an entirely different team next year. But, they will still be young, so year 3 is when things turn. Next year will be rough, too, but with better GA players instead of these Riley chumps.
Every Saturday now, I get up and I ask myself, “Who are we losing to today? Oh, I see. It’s [insert any other team’s name here].” At least the basketball team looked decent while I was watching them. 4-0 for the first time since when?
My brother told me today that this reminds him of when Pettibone took over…
You must not have been to the games in 91 to 96. I could count and hear the individual voices of the fans. There was an old lady about six rows behind the bench, hated that bitch, but man could she swear. JB
Okay, you know I rightfully blame Riley for most of this, but I am starting to wonder if we made the right hire, or if the new staff made some major mistakes. I suspect GA and crew wrote this off as a sacrificial year. There is no way the players are THIS bad.
GA was/is a great hire. Not sure about Sitake and Baldwin. Never was high on Sitake and wanted to be proven wrong on him. So far, that hasn’t happened.
Sitake seems like a guy riding great coaches’ coattails but not a great coach himself. Not sure why they all love him, tbh
I’m a little concerned there with Andersen being a defensive guy. I can see why he hasn’t stepped in with Baldwin, but I wonder what his influence is on Sitake’s poor showing.
Do you feel differently about Diet Coke than a few of weeks ago? Just not seeing any kind of progression has me worried about this staff, especially the Coordinators… I’m hoping GA isn’t just a spin doc because he tells it like it is and never seems to deflect which I respect but man, we really suck shit.
I refuse to believe the players are this horrible. Bad, yes. Infected with Riley’s “aw shucks maybe we’ll beat ’em next year” crap, sure. But not this inept. There is no choice but to believe in GA, but I think they sacrificed this year, and that’s a shame.
No I had them at 5 wins, but everyone in the mainstream media has them at 2 wins and did think they’d be this bad.
There was no way to predict the internal problems (guys not buying in), weak players (awful strength figures), attrition, injuries, and general mayhem.
I don’t even think GA thought it would be this bad, but I do think once he realized it was he began the process of cleaning house (e.g. scholarships went from 12 to 25), he cut guyton, and probably make it known to others they should leave. He’s not patient and doing his best to get this rebuild done by year 3, which would be a miracle tbh
Angry, you think our receivers are still talented? Yes, we don’t have a QB but as a unit they’ve regressed, don’t you think? Did we all like Brennen because of his energy vs. tye rest of Opie’s staff? If he’s a good receivers coach I certainly didn’t see his magic this year.
Yeah, the receivers are talented. Villamin will probably make the NFL.
Bolden played better as a freshman than he is this year, so I don’t know what is up with him, but it is mental. Jarmon has battled injury. Guyton was destined for greatness but messed up. I’ve always been most high on Villamin and Jarmon, and still think they’re very good, and this year winds up being an aberration.
I believe, at some point, the players were weary of publicly hearing and reading that they needed to put on their big boy pants, that they weren’t tough enough, that they had no talent. That and things like not playing Ryan Nall against Utah because their interior OL was “too good” and putting Markus McMaryion in that horrible situation up against the goal line, then immediately pulling him after the pick. Perhaps GA will do better with his own recruits but I’m not believing that just yet.
None of this year’s team had been recruited to play in GA’s system and yet he couldn’t seem to accommodate that very much, if at all. He definitely talks the talk – I’ll be interested to see next year’s walk.
For very different reasons, Richard Mullaney and Darrell Songy were spared this year’s ignominy. Mullaney is probably congratulating himself all the way to the College Playoffs and Songy? – who knows.
Normally you come across as rational and sane Scotty. Not here though. GA is going to move us forward. Give him more than a few months before you throw in the towel.
Not throwing in the towel on the current staff. Questioning how they’ve handled this year, and seeds of doubt forming. They will probably turn things around, but not having any questions after seeing 41-0 and 52-7 is a bit insane to me.
They are this bad. This is the leftovers of a 5 win team, a team that was very fortunate to win that many games last year with bsaically an all senior defense and a 5th year QB and an ‘established’ offense. We returned 2 guys on defense both of whom sucked. We lost a QB, significant other parts of the offense.
These players suck, that is a fact. That fact sucks, but it’s still a fact.
Let’s be honest he came in and changed the culture. Only a number of guys have bought in, it’s not easy to assimilate to a new system or culture. I still think Riley would have won 2 more game just based on that perspective. Andersen will bring his own guys in and turn it around in the next 2-3 years.
I will say that I haven’t seen any *what was that shit* passes from MMM. Even his misses and int at least looked like a guy who has thrown a football before.
for the 3rd consecutive year I won’t be watching the civil war. As a beaver fan surrounded by ducks (family and work), depressing would be an understatement. I honestly thought this team would get someone in the last 4 games and I was wrong. Injuries, players mailing it in or whatever else reasons I cannot fathom, this team has regressed to the point of not even close to being competitive. On to hoops season
I kinda wonder if there’s some offense vs defense divide. It has to be hard to keep the D coming out fired up when they know the O isn’t going to produce anything.
He saw my retro Benny stocking cap and asked “Oregon State?” He said all of his family were Duck grads, but he graduated two years ago from Minnesota. I said, “so you are the smart one in the family.” He was pretty cool and has done well for himself. He married a very cute U of M coed.
This was the one game of the year that I got to watch with my dad. He was on the original Giant Killer team. His perspective has always kept me in check, until this year. After the first quarter, he was done. Depressed, sad, and beaten. He said he didn’t want to go through another 28 years of losing seasons, he won’t make it that long.
I spent the next 3 quarters highlighting the positives, Ovgard, from K Falls, and other young guys making plays. I told him about the recruiting class, better than any Riley ever had. I did my best to keep his hopes up
In the end, he said they played like they did in the “dark ages” and just doesn’t believe you can turn a team around quickly enough for him to be able to enjoy it. Made we wish there was a camera on the wall, recording every bit of it. So I could show it to the coach, the players and recruits. These old timers are fed up with the flashy, money bought, team down south. They don’t have the patience to wait 3 years for the turn around, because they don’t know if they have 3 years. My old man wants to see the Beavers win “the right to live in the state” one more time before he moves on, I hope GA and his players have the same sense of urgency that he has.
This game needs to buried, never mentioned again, and called that “rock bottom” moment. Upward from here Beavs! Give em hell next week!
I hate to complain about refereeing in a blowout loss like this but there were 2 calls that pissed me off and wanted some input on as I just watched the game by myself and my wife.
What did you guys think of that call after the review of the JV catch sliding out of the end zone in the first quarter? I thought it should have been reversed; he was clearly forced out of the back of the end zone and I thought he made a clean grab.
Other one was the interference to catch the kick. They didn’t show a replay but on initial look I thought out player just times it right.
Agree on both. The JV catch looked like a catch. His knee slid through the end zone. If it was originally ruled a catch, it would have stood. The catch interference I don’t know, saw what you saw. Didn’t seem like a legitimate call. Looked like his own guy hit him.
The only way OSU has a chance in the Civil War!
I might get some s&#t for this… But I won’t be watching the civil war this year! In fact, I’m willing to sign a petition begging the University to forfeit, or implement a mercy rule. Hole could score 100 points on this OSU team. Hell, I’d pay money to watch someone lay puddles the f#^k out! Enjoy the footage below.
Back to back home games where we left at Halftime. Wow.
I think GA has lost this team, no effort on any side of the ball.
I still give him a pass, but if we lose recruits because of this, then that will really hurt.
I mean you would think we could at least run for 2 yards per carry every time and get something at least positive. but no blocking, no running, and no tackling.
When Lucas got run down by a LB I knew we had nothing.
Very disappointing,but programs have to go through this to rebuild (Cal, Colorado, WSU, UW, etc) have all been through this. We will take our lumps and remember them for payback.
There will be better days, just hard to see from deep down this hole.
agreed talent level is not there. Just felt the effort wasn’t there too many one on one battles lost, throwing behind receivers so bad the defender tried to kick the pass was one example.But didn’t have a good angle. But it does come down to talent, thanks for the correction, our seats are not the best. I think we did win the Ray Guy award though today.
Travis Feeney (ran down Lucas) clocked 40 yard dash time 4.44s in 2014, third fastest on the team. Feeney’s pads and helmet are probably on 5% of his total weight, compared to Lucas’ 25%.
Good point, didn’t think about how heavy the pads are per body weight. I stand corrected thanks for that. Man would hate to have seen the first and second fastest on their team.
WR John Ross was hand-clocked at the Husky Combine at 4.29. He’s been out all season knee; WR Marvin Hall was 4.4. His stats are pretty light, i’d assume he’s been injured this season too. Maybe that’s why the only scored 52.
Dam, that’s fast. I remember John Ross we lost that recruiting battle, wanted to get him here.
I could be wrong but I think they only scored 52 points because they were running the ball all second half, went for it on every fourth down just to keep the clock running with their fourth string running back. So, our backups against theirs played the second half even 7-7.
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Dam, that’s fast. I remember John Ross we lost that recruiting battle, wanted to get him here.
I could be wrong but I think they only scored 52 points because they were running the ball all second half, went for it on every fourth down just to keep the clock running with their fourth string running back. So, our backups against theirs played the second half even 7-7.
Don’t know how to quote here; ran out of “reply.” Good point about backups vs. backups and running the ball. They definitely took the foot off the gas a bit. Ross was before I started paying attention to recruiting.
I really, really hope McCaffrey wins the Heisman. Not just because I respect Stanford’s style of play, but also because it’s about time we had a running back win the award again.
If we could get someone on the Beavers even half as talented as him, the team would be set for a while.
Don’t forget the Stanford OL is top notch. In the last couple of years one of the Stanford classes contained the best OL recruiting class in the nation.
I’m back and can’t say I’m sorry I missed the football game.
But FWIW I did get to watch the basketball game.
Here’s the FWIW part: I had a window open for the bb game stream and for some reason I hit the pause button. When I came in the game was over and again for some reason, I clicked on play and lo and behold the entire game was setting there waiting for me to watch it. I didn’t realize something like this was possible so it might have been a one time deal.
YO yall whut dis crap goin down>?? ;( Deez boyZ be looki’n like straight trash u know? Concinder dis da end of Texas recruiting. Aint nobody playin for yall again.
Mike Riley was ok but dis new guy seemz racsist yall
Haha, you can’t let this kind of crap get to you. This is weak trolling. We’re going to get bored Duck fans trolling us more and more as long as the Beavs are down. It makes it easier for them because they know the Beavs are no threat to their silver platter football program. All of this crap will just make it that much sweeter when the Beavs punk their asses in a couple years.
Ha! I was talking to my cousin a few weeks back who is a HUGE Ducks fan…clothing, Oregon O on his truck…he said the three losses made it clear who were the “bandwagon” fans…and that “you just knew something wasn’t right with Vernon Adams, you knew he was injured, and then Oregon let people know his hand was broken…” etc etc.
He did not graduate from UO, nor did he attend it, nor did his family members….he is the epitome of bandwagaon…
So this year they have 2 decent victories over bowl-qualified teams correct? 3 losses, other wins over nobody special, and no faith in the QBs on their roster as evidenced by Adams presence and the backups performance. Oh, and they have one of the worst defenses in the country.
Their recruiting remains strong though, so they should stay relevant in-league; IF they can find a qb play and radically improve their defense. They better not give Pellum too much time though. Waitaminnit! That sounds like…
Is the incoming QB talent FR? Or are you saying that have a RSFR QB next year that didn’t play this year? Are their redshirt freshmen well-distributed across offense and defense?
MM looked better today, still sloppy at times. Lucas nice run, needs to learn to high step but he was probably drained from pin balling through the contact.
Stanford absolutely can beat Notre Dame and I think they will. However, no team with 2 losses that doesn’t hail from the SEC or named Notre Dame is getting into the playoff
What’s funny is the Oregonian is hyping shit like “the Ducks are the hottest team in the nation” too bad about Adams injury or they would be fighting for the playoffs. One article said something like they “blasted Stanford”. If I remember correctly if Hogan could have handled two fucking snaps. they probably win going away, not quite a “blasting”. Fuck I hate the Ducks!
I think I’ve lost all intresting in college football for the year. The only compelling part left is to watch Nebraska lose next week……please let them lose. And I’m sick of hearing the word “parody” when talking college football. It’s just shitty football. I think this is the worst year of football I can remember, overall, not just the beavs.
It’s hard to watch, but I think you can’t underestimate injuries and then the subsequest depth of this team also. They played competitive halves against two very good teams in Michigan and Stanford and won the two games they were supposed to and then injury after injury began piling up.. I’m not saying they would have won any more games, but we may not have seen this level of non-competitive play. Seth Collins was the best QB by far because of his ability to run and that’s not saying he’s the QB of the future either.
Yes, talent and injuries are a reality but this team is absolutely weak mentally. GA talks every week about toughness and this team just doesn’t have it. Some of it due to Hee Haw Riley but most of it because the players aren’t used to grinding through imo.
Eggers with a lengthy piece on Andersen, OSU’s future:
Some highlights for me:
Andersen’s complimentary remarks of Riley and staff sound like complete BS but coaches rarely speak negatively about one another.
“Andersen didn’t like going into August training camp with Collins, Mitchell and Marcus McMaryion still competing for a starting role at QB.
“We’re not going to go through that again,” Andersen says. “I’m not comfortable carrying this thing through the summer, with all the drama of wondering who the hell the quarterback is going to be. I’m not going to do that. We’ll make a decision in the spring. It absolutely has to be someone who can throw the ball consistently.” ….
“Oregon State’s offense next season will continue to have the spread as its base, but will be more of a hybrid.
“We need to be an offense that has an identity to run the ball,” he says. “I’m not saying two backs in the backfield and grind it out. I’m not saying we’re going to play fast every snap, either. I see us down the road as a team that can run the ball and have effective wide receivers. Do we want to play with four wideouts sometimes? Yes. We also want to play tight ends at times. We have three tight ends back who I really like — Caleb (Smith), Noah (Togiai) and Brent (VanderVeen) — and we’re going to use those kids. But we’ll also be in spread formation, too.”
Andersen envisions an offense much like that employed by Sonny Dykes at Cal.” (This seems inconsistent with previous statements and I wonder if Andersen/Baldwin are trying to be so diverse that they don’t do anything well?)
…”I want to be able to be a drop-back team that can have threats at different spots, with play-action and some bells and whistles,” he says. “We’ll run the quarterback as needed, but I don’t want to be a running quarterback team. We don’t want the quarterback to carry the ball 10 to 15 times a game. …”
The Beavers appear stacked at the running back position…a crowded field returning will include Paul Lucas….We’re going to keep him back there and let him keep running,” Andersen says. “We’ll put him in the cafeteria and let him eat. He’ll get stronger. He’s unbelievably competitive and a physical kid for his size.
…There is so much talent at running back that it wouldn’t be a surprise to see redshirt freshman Ryan Nall moved to another position in the spring. ” (I hope this is just Eggers speculation. But maybe Andersen is desperate for some LBs?)
“”We have to drastically improve at the defensive line and linebacker positions,” Andersen says. “You have to be able to rush with four. We’ve not been able to do it. At linebacker, we need to be better in all areas.” ‘
Feels like they have all of their eggs in the Garretson basket, but one fluke injury will turn next year into this year. Really wish they had one more option at qb next year, not including SC/NM/MM and assuming Moran redshirts.
Totally agree with your comment about them trying to be too diverse on offense (or was that eggers?)
Garretson was projected to still be third string behind Keeton and Myers this season at Utah St. yet he is being hailed by some to be a savior next year in the P-12. I’m very skeptical, like Angry said this is going to take some time.
Here’s an interesting stat from Eggers from yesterday’s “game”:
“NOTES: Washington’s defense was on the field so little, the Huskies were credited for only 45 tackles to 96 for Oregon State. The most tackles any Husky player had was three.”
Will be interesting to see if UO needs less than 45 tackles in the blowout next week…
OT: I told you guys Wisky fans have a high percentage of a-holes.
Snowballs from Badger fans lead to ejections, injuries http://www.jsonline.com › News
13 hours ago – Snowballs from Badger fans lead to ejections, injuries … tried to engage with fans via Twitter during the game, announcing that fans throwing snow would be ejected, and scolding fans.
“”We have to drastically improve at the defensive line and linebacker positions,” Andersen says. “You have to be able to rush with four. We’ve not been able to do it. At linebacker, we need to be better in all areas.” ‘
I suppose d-line quality control staff has some stats that suggest this is more a front problem than a pourous secondary? Like length of time from snap to throw? Our passes defended stats vs. competition are awful.
“”We have to drastically improve at the defensive line and linebacker positions,” Andersen says. “You have to be able to rush with four. We’ve not been able to do it. At linebacker, we need to be better in all areas.” ‘
I suppose d-line quality control staff has some stats that suggest this is more a front problem than a pourous secondary? Like length of time from snap to throw? Our passes defended stats vs. competition are awful.
I’m trying to find the article, but it listed UW, Tennessee and …….Ole miss???, as his top 3. I’m not sure it was Ole miss, it might have been someone else, but UW and Tenn. We’re on it.
Only 66?
These bandwagon fans have no sense of reality!
Yeah i suppose uw has a backup qb they’ll want to play in the 4th.
Go Beavs!
You guys are the worst conference team I can recall in over 40 years!
0-12.
Coincidence that Riley has the worst Nebraska team in 60 years?
Come on. We were this sucky well less than 40 years ago.
So I missed the entire first half. Can someone give me a summary that isn’t smart ass jokes (though those are fine, too).
Washington scored. We didn’t. That’s basically it, plus a great Lucas play for 1st and goal at the 8 goes wasted with a missed FG
Had the D just given up or are they being manhandled?
I think GA wants to clean house, upping schollie number to 25 and taking mostly D players…makes me think the defenders have given up.
Secondary has been clueless. Huskie receivers wide open on almost every play. Over 200 yards passing in the first half.
Totally shitty passing by Mitchell, missed assignments on O, D, and special teams leading to huge gains. 1 good run by Lucas.
Absolutely inept. Only one good play by Lucas when didn’t go down at line of scrimmage, sprung for 73 yards until he was run down if a foot race where he had all the advantage. So 1st and goal at the 8 ended with a missed roughly 35 yard field goal. Otherwise, 1-9? On passing for 1 yard. WA returned s punt for TD.
Mitchell was terrible in every way.
Lucas had a beautiful 70 yard run where he got run down by a 220# linebacker on the 10 yard line (???????????).
Storm hyphen still runs in to the back of his linemen.
One Nall carry?
And I thought Lucas was the fastest guy on the team? I guess not with pads on.
Yeah it’s strange. My 11 year old step son is a fucking streak of lightning. Can’t even hear his feet touch the ground. Put on real pads this last year and it fucked him all up. Runs really funky, slow and flopping side to side. Odd.
Lucas broke thru 3 tackles from 220lbs defenders while running full speed on this same play.
No validation need.
Go Bevs!!
Numerous missed tackles
Lucas broke thru 3 tackles from 220lbs defenders while running full speed on this same play.
No validation need.
Go Bevs!!
Maybe the D can get some nice big hits on the dogs, that’s the most we can hope for at this point
I see Owens even missed a FG.
What’s going on with the QBs? Is mitchell out and MM in? Mitchell era should be over, imo.
Mitchell got benched for being terrible, I assume.
Since this game is a complete waste, i have a football rules question for anybody that knows.
I noticed when the Huskies got their delay of game penalty, the clock kept rolling as they prepared for their next play. Is that normal? Or did t he officials just screw up by not stopping the clock? If the clock keeps running, couldn’t a team just run out the clock by repeatedly getting delay of game penalties?
It’s a mercy rule when you’re getting the shit kicked out of you.
Posted this in the other thread but didn’t get answer.
So does Noah Togiai get to start practicing with the basketball team immediately after the Civil War and then play in the next basketball game on December 3rd?
I assume he’ll be way behind in learning the schemes, gelling with the team, and just rusty with his basketball skills in general… How much is he expected to play this year?
I’m expecting most of the recruits to replace starters next year. This group couldn’t compete with an FCS team.
Seriously, I would be surprised if this team could beat Portland State, they might not even be competitive against them given this current trajectory of both teams.
You’re kidding right? This year’s Portland State team would roll Oregon State. PSU just beat EWU and is headed to the playoffs. They’re a pretty solid team.
I know, they’ve beat two FBS teams already. Kind of interesting that Barney turned a 3-9 team into a playoff team in one year with mostly Burton’s players.
They would lose to PSU. With Seth we would make a game of it but might still come up short.
Beavs need an all new secondary. These guys suck donkey.
I’m not sold on the secondary coaching either.
Jesus guys they were on like 3rd string back there due to injuries. Can’t coach chicken shit into chicken salad.
Was that another ball bouncing off Bolden or a bad throw? Couldn’t tell.
Bolden.
Both?
Well at least we can put the McM boning a coaches daughter theory to bed. He is not playing because he sucks.
Looks pretty good to me.
Back to the boning the coaches’ daughter theory.
That’s some crowd!
The good news regarding recruiting: it’s probably obvious to them they can play right way.
Kinda surprised they still have Browning in at QB.
So they do the chainsaw on 3rd and 1 down 45 with about 20 fans. Good to know it’s going nowhere.
Lowest post total, matches the score.
Return of flailbacker U.
Pankey, and company.
No chance of injury since Shitalke has the Beav’s playing two hand touch.
This ain’t gonna get an easier for the players next year. The Pac is only getting better. The coaches better learn how to use their players to their strengths or it will be another ugly year.
It’s probably going to be an entirely different team next year. But, they will still be young, so year 3 is when things turn. Next year will be rough, too, but with better GA players instead of these Riley chumps.
Rough maybe, but not this rough.
Agreed.
I don’t think Urban Meyer could win with these players
yay
2 nicely thrown balls on that drive.
Every Saturday now, I get up and I ask myself, “Who are we losing to today? Oh, I see. It’s [insert any other team’s name here].” At least the basketball team looked decent while I was watching them. 4-0 for the first time since when?
My brother told me today that this reminds him of when Pettibone took over…
Thanks for the kind words…autographed picture on the way. JB
PS: There will be a $75 shipping and handling charge.
Agree with your brother, it’s like middle school/high school all over again. I wish they would charge is $9 to get in again.
UW could get 10 yards on a QB sneak.
I’m at the game…start of 4Q…no one here at all…never seen it like this….very very sad
Wave!
You must not have been to the games in 91 to 96. I could count and hear the individual voices of the fans. There was an old lady about six rows behind the bench, hated that bitch, but man could she swear. JB
Mike Parker going with the silver lining of this taking pressure off former beaver Jonathan Smith, UW OC. Really?!
Understand why I hate Parker yet?
Silver lining is there are two 4-star DTs there who can play right away next year, and this type of effort should make that clear to them.
Okay, you know I rightfully blame Riley for most of this, but I am starting to wonder if we made the right hire, or if the new staff made some major mistakes. I suspect GA and crew wrote this off as a sacrificial year. There is no way the players are THIS bad.
GA is the best possible hire at the time, and really he’s handling this current shit show very well.
GA was/is a great hire. Not sure about Sitake and Baldwin. Never was high on Sitake and wanted to be proven wrong on him. So far, that hasn’t happened.
Sitake seems like a guy riding great coaches’ coattails but not a great coach himself. Not sure why they all love him, tbh
I’m a little concerned there with Andersen being a defensive guy. I can see why he hasn’t stepped in with Baldwin, but I wonder what his influence is on Sitake’s poor showing.
Do you feel differently about Diet Coke than a few of weeks ago? Just not seeing any kind of progression has me worried about this staff, especially the Coordinators… I’m hoping GA isn’t just a spin doc because he tells it like it is and never seems to deflect which I respect but man, we really suck shit.
I feel the same about everything.
This will take 2 more years.
2-10 and utterly uncompetitive isn’t a sign of handling the situation well IMO
Do you understand what rebuilding entails?
Usually 5 years. Maybe you should go into hibernation if you can’t handle it. This one will probably only take 3 years.
I refuse to believe the players are this horrible. Bad, yes. Infected with Riley’s “aw shucks maybe we’ll beat ’em next year” crap, sure. But not this inept. There is no choice but to believe in GA, but I think they sacrificed this year, and that’s a shame.
A lot of injuries and guys who never bought in. When GA arrived he basically laughed at the strength numbers.
GA is a man with a plan and will succeed. The only way I see failure: (a) never finds a QB (b) assistant coaches stink yet he sticks with them.
“(b) assistant coaches stink yet he sticks with them.”
Now that would be deja vu all over again. I hope not!
Angry, did u honestly think we’d be this bad?
No I had them at 5 wins, but everyone in the mainstream media has them at 2 wins and did think they’d be this bad.
There was no way to predict the internal problems (guys not buying in), weak players (awful strength figures), attrition, injuries, and general mayhem.
I don’t even think GA thought it would be this bad, but I do think once he realized it was he began the process of cleaning house (e.g. scholarships went from 12 to 25), he cut guyton, and probably make it known to others they should leave. He’s not patient and doing his best to get this rebuild done by year 3, which would be a miracle tbh
This team is so low on talent. Let’s say GA sucks if Beavs have only 5 wins in 2017.
Angry, you think our receivers are still talented? Yes, we don’t have a QB but as a unit they’ve regressed, don’t you think? Did we all like Brennen because of his energy vs. tye rest of Opie’s staff? If he’s a good receivers coach I certainly didn’t see his magic this year.
Yeah, the receivers are talented. Villamin will probably make the NFL.
Bolden played better as a freshman than he is this year, so I don’t know what is up with him, but it is mental. Jarmon has battled injury. Guyton was destined for greatness but messed up. I’ve always been most high on Villamin and Jarmon, and still think they’re very good, and this year winds up being an aberration.
I believe, at some point, the players were weary of publicly hearing and reading that they needed to put on their big boy pants, that they weren’t tough enough, that they had no talent. That and things like not playing Ryan Nall against Utah because their interior OL was “too good” and putting Markus McMaryion in that horrible situation up against the goal line, then immediately pulling him after the pick. Perhaps GA will do better with his own recruits but I’m not believing that just yet.
None of this year’s team had been recruited to play in GA’s system and yet he couldn’t seem to accommodate that very much, if at all. He definitely talks the talk – I’ll be interested to see next year’s walk.
For very different reasons, Richard Mullaney and Darrell Songy were spared this year’s ignominy. Mullaney is probably congratulating himself all the way to the College Playoffs and Songy? – who knows.
Normally you come across as rational and sane Scotty. Not here though. GA is going to move us forward. Give him more than a few months before you throw in the towel.
Not throwing in the towel on the current staff. Questioning how they’ve handled this year, and seeds of doubt forming. They will probably turn things around, but not having any questions after seeing 41-0 and 52-7 is a bit insane to me.
They are this bad. This is the leftovers of a 5 win team, a team that was very fortunate to win that many games last year with bsaically an all senior defense and a 5th year QB and an ‘established’ offense. We returned 2 guys on defense both of whom sucked. We lost a QB, significant other parts of the offense.
These players suck, that is a fact. That fact sucks, but it’s still a fact.
So after looking at that list of seniors, I’d say Peko and Grimble are the only losses.
Peko. I never saw Grimble play…
He got hurt a some point. He made some plays.
Let’s be honest he came in and changed the culture. Only a number of guys have bought in, it’s not easy to assimilate to a new system or culture. I still think Riley would have won 2 more game just based on that perspective. Andersen will bring his own guys in and turn it around in the next 2-3 years.
Riley would have been lucky to sniff 4-8 this year with the mess he created, and that’s with his own projects – er, recruits.
1 win is all he would have got.
At least Maid Marion made a nice tackle of his air mail INT.
I will say that I haven’t seen any *what was that shit* passes from MMM. Even his misses and int at least looked like a guy who has thrown a football before.
Talk about a guy with bad body language.
Yeah he has no presence at all. I thought mannion was bad.
You gotta have that as a QB. Can’t teach that at this point in his career. Dude doesn’t look like a winner – more like he’d rather have a headset on.
He looked pretty good. Nick Mitchell isn’t the answer to just let the guy play the full Civil War.
Overall I think his play was pretty good. He needs more confidence running the ball.
All the seniors should be playing, where has Storm been the last few series?
Running into his own lineman and falling down?
He should not have changed his name. Bad Karma.
Nobody should have a fucking hyphen in their name.
Yes, abstinent hyphens only
Fuck that! Should be all freshman
Seriously with Peterson. Going for it on fourth down and bitching at the refs for an obvious false start. Someone punch that ay hole in the throat.
Not his fault we suck
We’re a charity case… Don’t blame CP but we’re so bad they haven’t thrown a pass in the 2nd half.
Meh, I don’t like the guy. I think GA will remember this one.
He still is plotting to get even with Urban Meyer.
Makes no sense to punt there.
They were in FG range.
If you have a punter who can punt backwards it does.
BOW DOOOOWWWWNN!!!!!
funny! I said that exact same thing to your mom. And much like the Beavs did today, she laid down and just took it
Wow, the last 3 plays of the game expose what the game plan should have been the whole night.
Exactly!!!
GA did tell them this was tackle football tonight?
DAWGS UP 4 LIFE
Since when do Duck fans like the huskies?
the guess here is if angry checked IP addresses he’d find them to be identical for this joker, colorado all effing day, duke of ute, etc
If you’re going to attempt to troll, at least be funny.
for the 3rd consecutive year I won’t be watching the civil war. As a beaver fan surrounded by ducks (family and work), depressing would be an understatement. I honestly thought this team would get someone in the last 4 games and I was wrong. Injuries, players mailing it in or whatever else reasons I cannot fathom, this team has regressed to the point of not even close to being competitive. On to hoops season
I kinda wonder if there’s some offense vs defense divide. It has to be hard to keep the D coming out fired up when they know the O isn’t going to produce anything.
Had a guy from Eugene sit in front of me today at the Gopher game.
did he smell like urine?
Stale pot and patchouli oil.
if you think Corvallis has a problem with bums you should visit Eugene sometime. Specifically, West 5th across from the wetlands
District 9.
He saw my retro Benny stocking cap and asked “Oregon State?” He said all of his family were Duck grads, but he graduated two years ago from Minnesota. I said, “so you are the smart one in the family.” He was pretty cool and has done well for himself. He married a very cute U of M coed.
Gotta root for Trees to beat Cal, or else it’s quackers winning the north and probably conference. Unfreakingbelievable.
As long as we get some recruits to commit… Lol. That’ll be a success for me.
This was the one game of the year that I got to watch with my dad. He was on the original Giant Killer team. His perspective has always kept me in check, until this year. After the first quarter, he was done. Depressed, sad, and beaten. He said he didn’t want to go through another 28 years of losing seasons, he won’t make it that long.
I spent the next 3 quarters highlighting the positives, Ovgard, from K Falls, and other young guys making plays. I told him about the recruiting class, better than any Riley ever had. I did my best to keep his hopes up
In the end, he said they played like they did in the “dark ages” and just doesn’t believe you can turn a team around quickly enough for him to be able to enjoy it. Made we wish there was a camera on the wall, recording every bit of it. So I could show it to the coach, the players and recruits. These old timers are fed up with the flashy, money bought, team down south. They don’t have the patience to wait 3 years for the turn around, because they don’t know if they have 3 years. My old man wants to see the Beavers win “the right to live in the state” one more time before he moves on, I hope GA and his players have the same sense of urgency that he has.
This game needs to buried, never mentioned again, and called that “rock bottom” moment. Upward from here Beavs! Give em hell next week!
I think next week might be rock bottom.
You guys are too pessimistic, though. This is normal for a rebuild.
yup. and why I won’t be watching
I hate to complain about refereeing in a blowout loss like this but there were 2 calls that pissed me off and wanted some input on as I just watched the game by myself and my wife.
What did you guys think of that call after the review of the JV catch sliding out of the end zone in the first quarter? I thought it should have been reversed; he was clearly forced out of the back of the end zone and I thought he made a clean grab.
Other one was the interference to catch the kick. They didn’t show a replay but on initial look I thought out player just times it right.
Agree on both. The JV catch looked like a catch. His knee slid through the end zone. If it was originally ruled a catch, it would have stood. The catch interference I don’t know, saw what you saw. Didn’t seem like a legitimate call. Looked like his own guy hit him.
Clearly he was pushed out and it was clearly a catch.
Clearly not kick catch interference, dude was 1.5 yards from the returner when he caught the ball.
The only way OSU has a chance in the Civil War!
I might get some s&#t for this… But I won’t be watching the civil war this year! In fact, I’m willing to sign a petition begging the University to forfeit, or implement a mercy rule. Hole could score 100 points on this OSU team. Hell, I’d pay money to watch someone lay puddles the f#^k out! Enjoy the footage below.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VVrsGHs2MCk
Go fuck yourself.
Take a step back…breathe… Think happy thoughts, like someone rubbing Riley’s gum into Schnell’s hair
“Think happy thoughts, like someone rubbing Riley’s gum into Schnell’s hair”
I initially read that completely wrong initially and then threw up in my mouth a little
Yuck!
I predict 102-3 in CW
Man, losing by 99 to us is gonna embarrass the quackers big-time!
here’s an interesting hoops tidbit
The last time the Beavers started a season 5-0 was 1986 when Gary Payton was a freshman.
Back to back home games where we left at Halftime. Wow.
I think GA has lost this team, no effort on any side of the ball.
I still give him a pass, but if we lose recruits because of this, then that will really hurt.
I mean you would think we could at least run for 2 yards per carry every time and get something at least positive. but no blocking, no running, and no tackling.
When Lucas got run down by a LB I knew we had nothing.
Very disappointing,but programs have to go through this to rebuild (Cal, Colorado, WSU, UW, etc) have all been through this. We will take our lumps and remember them for payback.
There will be better days, just hard to see from deep down this hole.
That’s absolutely wrong.
No talent, that’s the issue.
agreed talent level is not there. Just felt the effort wasn’t there too many one on one battles lost, throwing behind receivers so bad the defender tried to kick the pass was one example.But didn’t have a good angle. But it does come down to talent, thanks for the correction, our seats are not the best. I think we did win the Ray Guy award though today.
Travis Feeney (ran down Lucas) clocked 40 yard dash time 4.44s in 2014, third fastest on the team. Feeney’s pads and helmet are probably on 5% of his total weight, compared to Lucas’ 25%.
Good point, didn’t think about how heavy the pads are per body weight. I stand corrected thanks for that. Man would hate to have seen the first and second fastest on their team.
WR John Ross was hand-clocked at the Husky Combine at 4.29. He’s been out all season knee; WR Marvin Hall was 4.4. His stats are pretty light, i’d assume he’s been injured this season too. Maybe that’s why the only scored 52.
Dam, that’s fast. I remember John Ross we lost that recruiting battle, wanted to get him here.
I could be wrong but I think they only scored 52 points because they were running the ball all second half, went for it on every fourth down just to keep the clock running with their fourth string running back. So, our backups against theirs played the second half even 7-7.
Did Lucas have the knee brace in before the run? If yes that may have also been a reason. Feeney’s super fast though.
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Dam, that’s fast. I remember John Ross we lost that recruiting battle, wanted to get him here.
I could be wrong but I think they only scored 52 points because they were running the ball all second half, went for it on every fourth down just to keep the clock running with their fourth string running back. So, our backups against theirs played the second half even 7-7.
Don’t know how to quote here; ran out of “reply.” Good point about backups vs. backups and running the ball. They definitely took the foot off the gas a bit. Ross was before I started paying attention to recruiting.
Cal’s crappy defense doing its part against furd to spare us all from a quack north championship :)
McCaffrey scores again!
this feels like a Cal victory.
I really, really hope McCaffrey wins the Heisman. Not just because I respect Stanford’s style of play, but also because it’s about time we had a running back win the award again.
If we could get someone on the Beavers even half as talented as him, the team would be set for a while.
Don’t forget the Stanford OL is top notch. In the last couple of years one of the Stanford classes contained the best OL recruiting class in the nation.
I’m back and can’t say I’m sorry I missed the football game.
But FWIW I did get to watch the basketball game.
Here’s the FWIW part: I had a window open for the bb game stream and for some reason I hit the pause button. When I came in the game was over and again for some reason, I clicked on play and lo and behold the entire game was setting there waiting for me to watch it. I didn’t realize something like this was possible so it might have been a one time deal.
YO yall whut dis crap goin down>?? ;( Deez boyZ be looki’n like straight trash u know? Concinder dis da end of Texas recruiting. Aint nobody playin for yall again.
Mike Riley was ok but dis new guy seemz racsist yall
Yall got nothin going. No momentem
NOBODY signin up to play for a raceist coach when they gon e get boat raced by nobody teams all seasin
Your Obama phone doesn’t have spell check? Well all be damned.
Haha, you can’t let this kind of crap get to you. This is weak trolling. We’re going to get bored Duck fans trolling us more and more as long as the Beavs are down. It makes it easier for them because they know the Beavs are no threat to their silver platter football program. All of this crap will just make it that much sweeter when the Beavs punk their asses in a couple years.
Silver platter football program, indeed. The best football team sweatshop money can buy
Yeah they need to enjoy it while they can. Remember the 3 losses while VA was hurt? That’s every game next year.
Ha! I was talking to my cousin a few weeks back who is a HUGE Ducks fan…clothing, Oregon O on his truck…he said the three losses made it clear who were the “bandwagon” fans…and that “you just knew something wasn’t right with Vernon Adams, you knew he was injured, and then Oregon let people know his hand was broken…” etc etc.
He did not graduate from UO, nor did he attend it, nor did his family members….he is the epitome of bandwagaon…
So this year they have 2 decent victories over bowl-qualified teams correct? 3 losses, other wins over nobody special, and no faith in the QBs on their roster as evidenced by Adams presence and the backups performance. Oh, and they have one of the worst defenses in the country.
Their recruiting remains strong though, so they should stay relevant in-league; IF they can find a qb play and radically improve their defense. They better not give Pellum too much time though. Waitaminnit! That sounds like…
Not really. They have some big time QB talent coming in… and something tells me their redshirt freshman will dominate.
Is the incoming QB talent FR? Or are you saying that have a RSFR QB next year that didn’t play this year? Are their redshirt freshmen well-distributed across offense and defense?
They’ve recruited talent at qb. But rolling the dice on another rsfr being Mariota part 2 is risky at best.
You are right, some lame guy who has nothing better to do.
I think you’ve just described the average college football fan ;)
THANK YOU STANFORD.
Shame on Cal for trying to make it interesting in the 3rd quarter. Why do they hate good decent football fans?
MM looked better today, still sloppy at times. Lucas nice run, needs to learn to high step but he was probably drained from pin balling through the contact.
Oh and Stanford!! Haha ducky trolls, enjoy a mid level bowl! Ducks are sliding, and denial is a stinky colonge
Quackers grabbed a starman with Chip Kelly, and the music just stopped this year
a 6-6 team without Adams, maybe worse
First, thank you Stanford.
Second, anyone think they can beat Notre Dame and thereby get into the CFP? Would be nice to have some PAC representation.
Stanford absolutely can beat Notre Dame and I think they will. However, no team with 2 losses that doesn’t hail from the SEC or named Notre Dame is getting into the playoff
What’s funny is the Oregonian is hyping shit like “the Ducks are the hottest team in the nation” too bad about Adams injury or they would be fighting for the playoffs. One article said something like they “blasted Stanford”. If I remember correctly if Hogan could have handled two fucking snaps. they probably win going away, not quite a “blasting”. Fuck I hate the Ducks!
I think I’ve lost all intresting in college football for the year. The only compelling part left is to watch Nebraska lose next week……please let them lose. And I’m sick of hearing the word “parody” when talking college football. It’s just shitty football. I think this is the worst year of football I can remember, overall, not just the beavs.
you mean parity?
Unless it’s beaver football, then it is parody
Wierd AL Yankovic is to music what the beavs are to football.
Yes, my Obama phone is not spell checking either.
*Reagan/Bush phone
Nope. http://www.obamaphone.com
And
Sorry. From the Web site. 2008 – The year Tracfone handed out the first free government cell phones.
This one clears it up even more.http://www.obamaphone.com/started-obama-phone-program
….so *Wilson/Roosevelt.
So….I guess you’re clear it’s not actually an Obama phone?
WSU is having a good season. I have a feeling Leach will be leaving WSU for a warmer college soon. Anyone looking to rebuild will want him now.
Maybe he can take care of a brain damaged Falk?
Come back, Seth. We were wrong. You’re (technically) a PAC 12 QB. And these guys saying you have a vulva were just joking around (I think.)
I miss AIR COLLINS ;_;
I don’t.
Why? You like getting blown out and watching NM pretend he knows how to play football?
It’s hard to watch, but I think you can’t underestimate injuries and then the subsequest depth of this team also. They played competitive halves against two very good teams in Michigan and Stanford and won the two games they were supposed to and then injury after injury began piling up.. I’m not saying they would have won any more games, but we may not have seen this level of non-competitive play. Seth Collins was the best QB by far because of his ability to run and that’s not saying he’s the QB of the future either.
Yes, talent and injuries are a reality but this team is absolutely weak mentally. GA talks every week about toughness and this team just doesn’t have it. Some of it due to Hee Haw Riley but most of it because the players aren’t used to grinding through imo.
That first scoring drive against Michigan – well executed and right down the field- seems like it happened one or two seasons ago…
Eggers with a lengthy piece on Andersen, OSU’s future:
Some highlights for me:
Andersen’s complimentary remarks of Riley and staff sound like complete BS but coaches rarely speak negatively about one another.
“Andersen didn’t like going into August training camp with Collins, Mitchell and Marcus McMaryion still competing for a starting role at QB.
“We’re not going to go through that again,” Andersen says. “I’m not comfortable carrying this thing through the summer, with all the drama of wondering who the hell the quarterback is going to be. I’m not going to do that. We’ll make a decision in the spring. It absolutely has to be someone who can throw the ball consistently.” ….
“Oregon State’s offense next season will continue to have the spread as its base, but will be more of a hybrid.
“We need to be an offense that has an identity to run the ball,” he says. “I’m not saying two backs in the backfield and grind it out. I’m not saying we’re going to play fast every snap, either. I see us down the road as a team that can run the ball and have effective wide receivers. Do we want to play with four wideouts sometimes? Yes. We also want to play tight ends at times. We have three tight ends back who I really like — Caleb (Smith), Noah (Togiai) and Brent (VanderVeen) — and we’re going to use those kids. But we’ll also be in spread formation, too.”
Andersen envisions an offense much like that employed by Sonny Dykes at Cal.” (This seems inconsistent with previous statements and I wonder if Andersen/Baldwin are trying to be so diverse that they don’t do anything well?)
…”I want to be able to be a drop-back team that can have threats at different spots, with play-action and some bells and whistles,” he says. “We’ll run the quarterback as needed, but I don’t want to be a running quarterback team. We don’t want the quarterback to carry the ball 10 to 15 times a game. …”
The Beavers appear stacked at the running back position…a crowded field returning will include Paul Lucas….We’re going to keep him back there and let him keep running,” Andersen says. “We’ll put him in the cafeteria and let him eat. He’ll get stronger. He’s unbelievably competitive and a physical kid for his size.
…There is so much talent at running back that it wouldn’t be a surprise to see redshirt freshman Ryan Nall moved to another position in the spring. ” (I hope this is just Eggers speculation. But maybe Andersen is desperate for some LBs?)
“”We have to drastically improve at the defensive line and linebacker positions,” Andersen says. “You have to be able to rush with four. We’ve not been able to do it. At linebacker, we need to be better in all areas.” ‘
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/282060-158517-gary-andersen-talks-oregon-state-football-%C3%82%20the-struggles-of-this-year-and-how-the-beavers-will-get-better
Feels like they have all of their eggs in the Garretson basket, but one fluke injury will turn next year into this year. Really wish they had one more option at qb next year, not including SC/NM/MM and assuming Moran redshirts.
Totally agree with your comment about them trying to be too diverse on offense (or was that eggers?)
That was me.
Garretson was projected to still be third string behind Keeton and Myers this season at Utah St. yet he is being hailed by some to be a savior next year in the P-12. I’m very skeptical, like Angry said this is going to take some time.
Here’s an interesting stat from Eggers from yesterday’s “game”:
“NOTES: Washington’s defense was on the field so little, the Huskies were credited for only 45 tackles to 96 for Oregon State. The most tackles any Husky player had was three.”
Will be interesting to see if UO needs less than 45 tackles in the blowout next week…
OT: I told you guys Wisky fans have a high percentage of a-holes.
Snowballs from Badger fans lead to ejections, injuries
http://www.jsonline.com › News
13 hours ago – Snowballs from Badger fans lead to ejections, injuries … tried to engage with fans via Twitter during the game, announcing that fans throwing snow would be ejected, and scolding fans.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2591693-wisconsin-cheerleaders-pelted-with-snowballs-thrown-by-their-own-fans
“”We have to drastically improve at the defensive line and linebacker positions,” Andersen says. “You have to be able to rush with four. We’ve not been able to do it. At linebacker, we need to be better in all areas.” ‘
I suppose d-line quality control staff has some stats that suggest this is more a front problem than a pourous secondary? Like length of time from snap to throw? Our passes defended stats vs. competition are awful.
Duplicate post, but put it in the wrong spot:
“”We have to drastically improve at the defensive line and linebacker positions,” Andersen says. “You have to be able to rush with four. We’ve not been able to do it. At linebacker, we need to be better in all areas.” ‘
I suppose d-line quality control staff has some stats that suggest this is more a front problem than a pourous secondary? Like length of time from snap to throw? Our passes defended stats vs. competition are awful.
What’s the consensus on the Kongbo kid? I think we got played, Washington was in his top 3, he just showed for the free shit. Thoughts?
Where did you read of a top 3?
I think he’s still on his visit so I’d be surprised he’d even put a list out while on visit
I’m trying to find the article, but it listed UW, Tennessee and …….Ole miss???, as his top 3. I’m not sure it was Ole miss, it might have been someone else, but UW and Tenn. We’re on it.
http://247sports.com/Player/Jonathan-Kongbo-84585
This isn’t the one I saw, but it’s the same list. I’m still looking.