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Finally, I think this one is a win. I actually think the Beavs can win each of the next five games. Will they? Probably not, but finally some winnable games.

Something like 35-27 seems reasonable. Go Beavs!

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    Side note: I’ll be on a 3 week bike tour along the east coast Sept 30th through Oct 22nd. Can oldbeav and/or nicebeav handle game threads? My cell service will be spotty, and I doubt I’ll be able to post. I usually post Sundays or Mondays so aim for that. I’m riding the GAP/CO trail and across the state of Vermont…should be epic in fall! See you guys in a bit.

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      Angry that is a smart move and enjoy your life away from 0-5U football. College football is dead to me and I fully encourage anyone to live their life doing something meaningful and adds value to one’s overall wellbeing. The beavers are NOT worth it. The school doesn’t value a winning football program, then why should we? September and October are beautiful months especially in Oregon. People should go out and enjoy life. If you enjoy spending 6+ hours to all day going to a Beaver football game only to be frustrated and disappointed in the end… fine. I would rather choose to do just about anything else than to waste a day with driving, parking, watching a horrible football team, paying way too much for overpriced food and drinks, and being in a bad mood or mental state around family and loved ones. No thank you! NIL and the portal have destroyed college football with the exception of the teams who can’t afford $20+ million each year. This current model is unsustainable and needs to have a salary cap. Until then whoever spends the most on NIL will be a player, those who don’t, will become irrelevant.

      • Yes! I think people (at least a few) made fun of me for buying over a decade ago. I think I got some around $1050, although my average is $1600. I also purchased quantum stocks in 2022 near their lows.

    • Does anyone live in this area? GAP/CO trail from Pittsburgh to DC. Then I’m also riding across most of VT on the Lamoille Valley Rail Trail, and a bit of a dip into NH to ride the Northern Rail Trail. If so I’d meet up at night after a ride…grab a drink. Maybe even watch a Beav game depending what day it falls on. Email me if in the area and interested.

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    I’m not big on Bray and got serious reservations about him being a head coach. But I will say I think even ina best case scenario he was going to take some lumps being a first time head coach. It took Smith a good 2 or 3 years to look competent

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      This is a broken team at this point and no amount of ‘coaching’ from this current coaching staff is going to be able to fix this. I don’t understand the problem with ST – does the guy have something on Bray?? Generally ST is a pretty solid performer, but week after week it is a glaring problem and cost us the game last night, despite the defense imploding in the last 6 minutes. Is Bray so focused on defense hat everything else gets shoved aside? Bad move to have him managing the game as well as defense; it’s not working.

  3. Replacing the special teams coach would be some small sign that somebody has standards and cares…

    0-5 for the first time in 29 years….kinda dubious.

    Hatcher was fun to watch.

    Students were having fun for about 54 minutes….were the upper decks nearly completely empty on both sides? ESPN mercifully avoid wide shots.

    As Beaver State said, plenty of other things to do on Saturdays. Fall is a great time of year.

    • Agree, dumping the SpTm coach would be a sign……..but Bray’s not the guy likely to do that. Every time Bray says “disappointed” I hear any solid coach saying “unacceptable”. The difference is, IMHO, a view into his core thinking.

      • If Bray won’t do it, Barnes should offer. If Barnes doesn’t, then Murthey needs to “encourage” it. It’s not a place for a trainee.

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    I mean a lot of people are going to hate on Bray and the coaching staff. But they got an 0-4 team to show up and really control the game against a good Houston team for 3 1/2 quarters. If we had won, the conversation would be completely different. But it’s back to woe is us for Beav fans. There is absolutely zero reason this team can’t win out with their remaining schedule.

    • But there’s also “absolutely zero reason” they should have lost last night given the situation with about 6 minutes to go.
      I do acknowledge your point, Bray doesn’t seem to have lost the locker room and that’s an accomplishment.

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      Nope…..

      While I did not watch the game last night, the ST coach has to go. To with, special teams gaffes significantly contributed to 3 of the 5 losses. They could be potentially be 3-2 at best or 2-3 at worst. Almost at the midway point of the season and still no improvement? When is enough, enough?

      Only at Oregon State is this considered acceptable

        • They said they didn’t watch. So their tripe is at least honest about that.

          For the first time, we looked like an actual football team. ST is the major problem, and Murphy made some major mistakes late. But the first three quarters were what we should have looked like from game one. We have always been more successful when we first establish the run and continue to keep their D on their heels.

          It’s the first full game I’ve watched this season, and the first I watched since week two. They are 1000 times better than those first two games. Now they need to commit to that plan for a whole game, without reverting to the weird calls late in the game.

    • “If we had won, the conversation would be completely different”

      Well…..yeah. Shouldn’t it be? Winning vs losing is a pretty big thing here

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    It’s early, but Wake Forest is smacking around Georgia Tech 17-3. That’s going to be a loss. The Beavs are going to 1-11, aren’t they? That’s Anderpants stuff. That 1-11 team that barely beat a winless Portland St with a late TD.

  6. I’m not real clear on this NIL stuff – does the kid just get a check cut to them if they are going to come and play? I know that MM is getting $1.5 million; are there any expectations associated with the money? If not, there should be because you just don’t hand somebody that type of money with no expectations, that’s not the real world. I don’t think we are getting our money’s worth on this deal and I think we got fleeced! He’s an okay QB, but nothing spectacular and I doubt he gets drafted. I just get the sense he is here just to get paid and will be gone next season; he sure plays like it.

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      I thought the Murphy situation was a little odd from the start, given that Duke basically let him go despite setting a program record for TD passes and a 9-4 record. Not enough scrutiny was given (especially for 1.5 million). I still find the media’s preseason hype strange, as if last season’s meltdown didn’t happen, even though it was all the same coaching staff.

  7. I’ve reached the apathy stage at this point and that is scary because I’ve never felt that way before about Beaver football. A loss like last nights would typically have ruined my weekend, but at this point I just… don’t care?

    The players don’t care and are mercenaries who will be gone next year and have no connection to the school, the staff are overpaid and make completely head scratching decisions, and my local 5A high school would be able to put out a better special teams performance. So many questionable calls and moments over this season that I just laugh at at this point. The fact that we can’t even trust our D1 FBS level special teams to come out to kick a 30 yard field goal is just pathetically hilarious. I mean there has to be some former high school players on campus who can do better, right? Host walk on tryouts. I was completely confused why we kept snapping the ball with over 20 seconds on the play clock with a lead in the later part of the 4th quarter. It was weird. Things looked good, and then they just didn’t.

    Despite all that has happened this year, we have a cupcake schedule remaining, and, if we play like we did for 3/4ths of the game yesterday, this team could still salvage 6-7 wins. What would you all think of this staff if this team somehow rallies and a pulls out a winning season?

  8. Tonight, I want to fist fight Gundy and Christian out front of the Peacock, both at the same time.
    But, I know the first thing that would happen is Gundy would swing at me and hit Christian on accident, causing Christian to kick Gundy in the nuts.
    I wouldn’t get the satisfaction of hitting either of them. One could say I would still be an Angry Beav..

  9. The way the Beavs choked last night, I wonder if it would have been better to lose in a blowout rather than an overtime zinger? These kind of losses can really take a lot out of the team. At least losing in a blowout, you know there wasn’t a shot but losing like that, you’re always second guessing and asking what if?

    • They should be asking “what if”! What if we didn’t have 2 field goal attempts blocked?! What if our secondary didn’t let receivers run free down field?! What if our offense didn’t turn to milk toast in the 4th quarter?! What if we had some offensive plays that had a chance of scoring from the 20 yd line on OT?!

      Lots of opportunity for reflection…

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    Well, Beav Rugby has one more win than football. Pounded Wazzu 49-3 in Pullman this afternoon. Next up, Boise St. One coaches poll has them ranked #16 in D1AA. My boy started at wing and played most of the game.

    • Wonder what he’s getting paid? With at least $23M in player salaries, assuming a 105(?) man roster, average player is getting $219K per year, but some positions and starters are obviously getting more of the money…

      • Anyone compare the look in the eyes of coaches for nike vs Beavs? How about the eyes of the players?
        Just sayin’ money isn’t the only difference in these two teams.

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          Agreed. Oregon has the look of a team unified with a mission. More so than even Chip or Cristobal teams.

          Beavs are just a high school team trying to pretend they are still in a bygone era.

          • I think Lanning’s ability to get that many players, with so much turnover, on the same page and playing effectively even in road environments is impressive. To go undefeated in regular season last year with that much turnover?

            Syracuse coach appears to be doing that too.

            With free agency, and assuming you have money, it seems like you need schemes players can pick up quickly, so the talent you’re paying for comes through.

            OSU just makes it all look so difficult instead of simple.

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        Yes, but I posted this before OT. A buddy of mine who is a huge duck fan was complaining about the non-targeting hit late in the game not called against PSU, and I tried to explain to him according to the rules expert and he went crazy. I don’t care what the rules expert says…..

        Earlier in the third quarter when the ducks were driving and a clear holding call on the Oregon ducks left tackle went uncalled on a critical third down conversion, he was like oh well.

        I swear that is what makes some duck fans so intolerable. They are just fine when tough but correct calls favor the ducks but completely obnoxious when a correct targeting call goes against them.

        I guess that’s even more of a reason to root against the obnoxious ducks.

        That said, it was a great game and as much as it pains me to say it, they deserved the win and really statistically dominated the game except for the last 8-9 minutes.

        I don’t think the ducks will win the CFB playoffs, but they are a very good team and will likely move into the #3 slot.

  11. IDK who the chuckle fuck that was pumping up the big dumper for MVP this last week. Dude may have 60 HR’s but he’s batting .247 and also strikes out a fuck ton. MVP? LOLOLOL

    • Nobody has been more valuable to their team than Cal. Elite defensive catcher that has hit 60 HR and has almost 130 RBI. It’s not the offensive player of the year award. It’s MVP and Cal will likely win it or be a very close second. If you take Cal off the Ms, they don’t sniff the playoffs. Take Judge off Yanks and they probably do. Judge is a good DH and a below average defensive RF. Probably one of the best hitters of all time but not this year’s MVP IMO

      • The most important position on the field is the catcher. He handles the ball on virtually every pitch except when there is a hit. He knows the strengths and weaknesses of every hitter and his own pitchers.

        Raleigh is a solid defensive catcher and has accomplished something that has never been done in the history of the game for a catcher. Think about that for a moment, in the history of the game.

        There is no argument that Judge has better stats except for HRs and high leveraged hits when the game is on the line.

        MVP is about impact on the game not just at the plate but on the field and all around impact. I think arguments can do either way but for me it’s the accomplishment of something that has never been done before since the inception of baseball and that’s so unique to the game and history of baseball.

      • Thanks for the link. Reinforces why I think Cal may win… value to team, offense and DEFENSE, games played, character… voter get autonomy on how they decide who MVP is.

        If he played in NY this would be a landslide. His BA also works against him.

        Based solely on offensive stats and the market Judge plays in, he’d be a shoe in but I think his poor defense and fact he played as a DH much of the time has to be part of the equation.

        • I think there will be some subjective and emotional elements for Raleigh too bc he’s a switch hitting catcher that has catapulted the Mariners to their first division title in two decades.

          Considering the Mariner’s lack of offensive production prior to the all star break and Raleigh still hit 37 HRs without much protection surrounding him is a significant accomplishment.

          I have no dog in the fight bc I’m a life long Dodger fan, but I do think Raleigh is very deserving and has a much bigger impact on the game than an OFer that is a average in the field.

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    Okay, I went through all the plugins and updated everything. I also approved 13 comments that were marked as spam. Should be good to go. OldBeav and NiceBeav – can you guys hold down the fort while I’m gone?

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    App St on the road feels like a loss since these guys aren’t improving at all.
    Wake is definitely a loss.
    WSU is 2 more losses.
    Tulsa probably a loss.
    So the question is can the Beavs even win 3 games at this point?

    • The disparities between the have and have nots grows, and given the now professional nature of college football, coaches are being retained until the end of the season THEN terminated.

      I may be wrong, but I don’t recall frequent in-season firings in college football like we’re seeing this early this season. Seemed much more common in the NFL.

      Barnes needs to tell Bray to at least replace the ST coach…a small step to send the signal somebody cares about competency and competitiveness.

      I’d also like to see that guys are punished for repeated bone head plays….but it’s probably too late for that to have any effect.

      Glasper and Hatcher are gamers….play them. Maybe Gutridge is too? Maybe the energy has to come from the guys who’d like to earn PT. Of course Glasper and Hatcher will end up getting paid somewhere else next year…

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        I just find this attitude odd.

        I really don’t think it would be that difficult to get most billionaires to donate to their alma mater’s athletic department. Plenty of schools find a way to do it. OSU lacks creativity.

        Someone should be able to sell Nvidia with access for their sports AI division but many incentives exist. Need people that believe OSU can do it first. That is what’s lacking, belief just isn’t there. Feels like the athletic department has largely quit trying.

  14. Was Gundy Dante Moore’s OC at UCLA? I know Moore was a freshman, but there are frosh all over the college landscape having success. BTW, Gulbranson threw for almost 450 yards in a comeback win over SJSU last night. As I recall, Gundy’s offense scored all of 13 points in last season’s loss. If Bray cares about the program, Gundy and Christiansen should be let go. Bray himself was once the beneficiary of an in-season decision.

    • I think he was the QB coach, don’t think he was OC…and Moore was INT prone that year….he threw a couple in a loss at Reser including a pick 6….he had multiple games with pick 6s…

      Now look at him and look at Gunderson…

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    Why do I have a sick feeling in my gut that Phil Knight will finally be able to buy himself a Natty this year? oregon looks invincible and has everything and everyone going their way. I really hope they don’t and that I am wrong!

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        If they do win, it should come with an asterisk bc of the money ball aspect in the game.game. I’d compare it to the steroid era in baseball. I realize that steroids were illegal and that NIL isn’t, however, it’s about the lack of parity in CFB just like if you didn’t use steroids in that era you were at a major disadvantage.

      • People watch football but not as many fan bases are invested like they used to be because there’s really only 10 or so programs that really have a shot to win it at the start of the year depending on how the flipped roster pans out. And did people care that Ohio state did it? I mean yeah I don’t want them to win but if they do then good for them finding a way. It won’t be easy though. They barely won last night. It was a hostile road game so that was a big test. Let’s see what happens when they get into the playoffs.

    • Wouldn’t let it stress you out, the part of the strategy where they advocated for more access through supporting a larger playoff may actually mean they never get there.

      Being able to go 12-1 or 13-0 in the regular season doesn’t matter as much as it did. Still gotta win 3-4 more against similar talent. Thats hard.

  16. The biggest downside to firing Gunderson right now is that the obvious replacement on the staff would be…..Danny Langsdorf.

    The whole thing has been a mess since Bray began hiring his staff last year. It should have been part of the discussion when he was hired for “continuity sake” for Barnes to at least press him on his coaching contacts and the capabilities of key staff positions. But it was probably part of the narrative to only seek former players/coaches who “know what it takes to win in Corvallis” nonsense. Different era, different rules and these clowns are all in over their head.
    Meanwhile Barnes has gone silent pretending all is well and it’s no time to panic.
    Bray’s act is getting to be more along the lines of embarrassing rather than motivating. The team just doesn’t look prepared or equipped to win.

  17. In USAToday re-rank of all football programs, Oregon is #1, Oregon State #124. Talk about rapid disparity since 2023.

    The only former or future PAC member ranked lower than Oregon State is UCLA.

    Upcoming foe Appalachian State, 2-2, is #120, but don’t fret, upcoming Sam Houston State is, like Oregon State, also unvictoried this season…

      • At 4-0, Houston is #37….yeah, pretty subjective…after about 25-30?they should probably just have an “everyone else@ category.

        Miami is the only team in the top 10 not from SEC or B10, so it’s going the way they want….

  18. Couple thoughts:

    I like Trent Bray.

    Clearly he isn’t the answer at head coach. That said, he’s likely to win anywhere from 3-6 games on the back end just by showing up and executing the basics of college football. Snap the ball, block on field goas etc.

    At any other university in the country his days would be numbered as the head coach, no question. Barnes talked recently about how OSU is going to change its way of thinking and act like a big fish in a small pond. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    How many wins does he need on the back end to save his job. I suspect 5 wins may be enough for Barnes. 50/50 chance 4 wins save his job. Barnes will sell a 5-2 finish, talk about the strength of the schedule early and say the program is headed in the right direction, ignoring everything that happened. I think 3 wins and Barnes will be forced to do what he doesn’t want to do.

    What say others?

    • Barnes can probably find an excuse to justify keeping Bray but it is very obvious Bray isn’t ready and may never be ready to be the head coach. It wouldn’t shock me if he resigns. Only reason he wouldn’t is money. He clearly doesn’t want the job.

    • Maybe I’ve just gotten too used to the apathy of OSU athletics, or maybe I’m not confident that we can afford a suitable replacement, but I’m thinking 3 wins gives Bray another year. Anything less and I think Bray will step away. It sucks too because I really like Bray as a DC, but if he fails as HC, there’s no way he’ll stick around as DC. I don’t know if he would have stayed at DC if we hired a different coach after the deserter, but I doubt we’ll ever see that scenario, unfortunately.

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      Talked to someone around the team. More average, less power this year. Lineup will be longer and will play more small ball. Sounds good to me

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      Kreig will be the power guy a long with Talt to a lesser degree. This team will be very similar to the Casey coached teams with great pitching, great defense and contact hitters.

      • Sounds good to me; pitching, defense, contact, small ball. Usually I’d say I’ll believe it when I see it but we actually did see a little small ball last season (a little).
        Related issue, seems to me a couple of the latest commits had a record of decent success on the base path. Always a plus to keep pressure on opposing pitchers. And, yeah, I know this is part of what we mean when talking small ball.
        Go Beavs!

  19. SAFE Legilsation:

    “The player-friendly SAFE Act, authored by prominent Democrat Senators and announced Monday evening, is a far-reaching bill that forces the federal trade commission into oversight of college sports. It is nearly polar opposite from the SCORE bill, which seeks antitrust exemptions from the federal government to make and enforce rules on NIL, player movement and eligibility.

    The SAFE Act also provides for the expansion of the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 to college sports, allowing conferences to pool media rights in an effort increase revenue and provide funding for all sports.

    Reached Monday night, Texas Tech board of regents chairman Cody Campbell — a staunch proponent of conferences pooling media rights — said the SAFE Act is a good first step in fixing college sports.

    “I am encouraged by seeing people stand up against greed, disrespect and disregard for the institution of college athletics and for the student athletes,” Campbell told USA TODAY Sports. “This is in sharp contrast to the position we have seen taken by the conference commissioners, and from the NCAA as they have lobbied in favor of legislation like the SCORE Act.”

    Earlier this summer, a person close to the White House told USA TODAY Sports that Trump decided to use Campbell as his point person in his fight to save women’s and Olympic sports. A billionaire businessman, Campbell has been using his own money this fall to promote change in college sports.

    Some of the highlights of the SAFE Act include sports agent reform capping fees at 5%, and establishing privacy protections for NIL contracts to ensure they’re not disclosed without a player’s consent — and are not subject to federal or state open records laws.

    The bill also covers player movement and the NFL draft, two critical components to roster building. Under the SAFE Act, players will be allowed two free transfers without losing a year of eligibility, and players will be allowed to return to college after the NFL draft, provided they do so within seven days of the draft.

    While those are important, player-friendly steps, the biggest move, by far, is the expansion of the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 — something the Power conference presidents and commissioners are against. The SAFE Act ensures all sports will be paid for, and not eliminated because of a lack of funding.

    An industry source told USA TODAY Sports this summer the Football Subdivision Conferences could get nearly twice the amount they currently receive for individual conference deals. The 10 FBS conferences currently make an estimated $4 billion annually combined through conference media rights deals, and the College Football Playoff contract.

    “The NCAA and conference commissioners clearly don’t care about the future of women’s sports or Olympic Sports,” Campbell said.

    Earlier this month, SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said he had yet to see evidence that expanding the SBA would result in “the numbers we’ve seen out there.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/09/29/safe-act-allows-players-to-return-after-draft-transfer-twice-cody-campbell-president-trump/86430018007/

    • The next domino in college athletes’ rights and Name, Image and Likeness legislation tipped Monday night.

      U.S. Sens. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.), and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) introduced the Student Athlete Fairness and Enforcement (SAFE) Act, aiming “to codify athletes’ rights and protections in law, expand revenue for all schools, support women’s and Olympic sports and bring much-needed stability to the college sports system.”

      The key provisions in the bill provide federal NIL protections, pooling of media rights, new broadcast revenue for Olympic and women’s sports, local market broadcast access for football and basketball, protections from bad actor agents, national standards for the transfer portal and preserves the House vs. NCAA settlement’s 22% revenue share cap.

      “This legislation is a path through the new world of NIL,” Cantwell said in a statement. “This bill will protect athlete rights, preserve women’s and Olympic sports and help smaller schools compete. It is a fair shake for everyone, instead of the biggest, richest schools.”

      And it says football and basketball games must be provided to local markets on a local broadcast outlet and not behind a paywall.

      Among its provisions, if passed through Congress the SAFE Act would:

      Provide federal NIL rights, replacing patchwork state-by-state laws.
      Establish health and safety standards for heat exertion, brain injury, asthma; provide five years of post-eligibility medical coverage for sports-related injuries.
      Protect scholarships, a 10-year guarantee.
      Provide NIL contracts that outline what athletes must do under the contract and how much they’ll be paid.
      Require agents cap their fees at 5% and to register with a state.
      Allow students to transfer twice without having to sit out for a year; students can transfer without having to sit out for a year if their sport is cut or reduced.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2025/09/29/senators-introduce-safe-act-for-college-athletes-nil-rights-womens-sports-sports-broadcasting-act/86428219007/

      • National legislation was always the only solution. Doubt this passes but the focus on Olympics and local broadcasting should be popular.

        Without a functioning NCAA the USA Olympic teams are in trouble.

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          I’d say the better solution is to let the media conglomerates pay a hefty fee yearly to get their desired semi-pro football conference. Profit share for the universities left out and fund Olympic sports form those funds, and keep the shcools outside of the semi-pro league back into traditional conferences (give or take a few schools) and allow those conferences/schools to proceed as before without NIL etc gumming up the works.
          I still prefer Mike Leach’s proposal where the athlete can choose to sign an NIL/get paid and has an actual contract (semi-pro league stuff) or the athlete can get a scholarship and be a student-athlete. It can’t be both like we have now though. Once the ahtlete signs a contract for NIL route, he is on the hook to pay it back if he leaves, and can be fired if he doesn’t perform up to expectations. Real world experience might settle some of the nonsense we have happening.

  20. Fall ball roster is out. I believe with the new roster rules, this is also the roster for next year.

    Almost all the commits made it. Only a couple ranked at the end of the class didn’t make it in.

    Lots of opportunity for guys to step up and freshman to make a splash. Not much in the way of impact transfers. Nearly all the power from last year is gone and no obvious guys to fill that void. Team is going to need to be very disciplined and scratch out runs anyway they can.

  21. Bray stickin’ by his entire staff, says a mid-season change of staff “wouldn’t benefit the players.”

    “There’s a consistency that players need in coaching, especially when you’re in season,” Bray said

    Doesn’t sound to me like the guy I figured Bray would be given the results on the field.

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      Yeah and all we see is consistently bad coaching, but we all get paid because the players might get upset if things change. Total garbage coach speak from Bray. Too bad, because each time he speaks, I have less respect for him. If he can’t see the forest for the trees at this point, he needs to be shown the door as soon as the season ends. I don’t think he could have said anything more tone-deaf than that reasoning.
      Don’t use the athletes resolve/focus as your scapegoat for keeping around loser coaches who you hired. Perhaps you have a bunch of gamers who already are wondering what the heck is going on but they are all silent so far. I don’t think it will stay that way much longer with those types of comments. I’d say this assures that the most competitive guys on the roster will transfer as soon as they can. If you are a competitor and hate losing, and can easily identify where 2 out of 5 losses came from directly, but the coach doesn’t hold those people accountable and instead openly worries about players feelings if a coach gets fired, why would you stay?
      I just heard OSU football being flushed and circling the drain form that comment alone. Bray is 42 but seems pretty naive and not at all measured in what he says as the head coach. He refuses to give any context for injuries but immediately hides behind the athletes feelings when the obvious move is to fire at least 1 if not 2 coaches this week. It also shows he may know that he doesn’t have anyone to fill the role if he did fire them because he has no contacts in the coaching world, since he leaned on Riley for too long.

      • “Bray is 42 but seems pretty naive and not at all measured in what he says as the head coach. “
        Isn’t what he says publicly the kind of thing where guidance from the “Special Assistant To The Head Coach” should be helping?

        The Special Assistant To The Head Coach, you know, Robb Akey; the guy who brought his own kid on staff to help with Special Teams?

      • Football is circling the drain at OSU faster than I expected – 2 years ago we were on the verge of winning the PAC12, now we are headed to being a mid to lower tier MT. West team. Bray seems delusional about his role in all this; I did read the article. He appears to dare the administration to fire him at this ‘crucial time’. He needs to understand that no one is indispensable and more than one coach at the D1 level has already been shown the door this season. If there had been any sign of improvement with this team week to week, I could be supportive, but I’ve just not seen it. We just don’t have the luxury of having these coaches learn on the job and, maybe, eventually coach up the players.

    • With those comments, Bray is clearly in over his head. I don’t think he could sucessfully run a business selling water in a desert. His loyalty to his inept coaching staff is going to get them all canned and tarnished for the forseeable future. He needs to offload the dead weight before the whole ship goes down.

  22. I just broke my own record going on a 27 hour fast. I was trying for 28 hours to match OSU’s 28 consecutive year losing streak but just couldn’t quite make it. After 27 hours, my toenails were a little crunchy but the toe jam was tasty. Not really as I had a turkey and cheese sandwich……

  23. I just read where MM has a potential hand injury so availability at APP State is uncertain…don’t like injuries but give JJ and Guthridge a shot.

  24. Was just reading a twitter post about the Blueprint NIL company that’s running the Beavs NIL fund these days.
    According to Politico, Blueprint’s management fee and payout is regressive based on amount of donation money received, but ultimately the company keeps north of 50%(!!) of all incoming donor money. Insanity. And they run a similar program for many other universities, so of course there is a conflict of interest with how the donations are spent (imagine if UW and OSU want the same player, Blueprint can put them in a bidding war where only the player and Blueprint will benefit)

    https://x.com/MrBeavv/status/1973098868976812397

      • The only good news in that article:
        “While the contract is slated for three years, it allows for plenty of off-ramps for both sides. Moreover, if the NIL deals sourced by Blueprint in a given year do not reach the target revenue threshold—or, if the NCAA or governing body rules change so as to make the agreement noncompliant—it can be terminated early. The university can also end the contract at any point by paying Blueprint the remaining amount of the management fee left on the contract”

        So they can extricate themselves for just the remainder of the $284k fee? I guess?

        It is curious though, why can’t OSU find someone skilled enough to run this thing for $200k? Or a team of someones for slightly more?

    • Fuck me running…it’s always the money – 50% retention of incoming donor money, what a scam. Wouldn’t a better model be the University itself running the collective through the athletic department, with donations coming in directly from the supporters and distributed to the selected athlete(s)? Why the need for a middle man here? So for every $1 collected, Blueprint keeps .50…what a scam.

      • That’s it.Quite enough. What do ABs know about the OSU regents? I was interested in Murthey’s appointment but wondered why not an administrator? She had a presence during the Pac breakup but nothing since. Jason Huang isn’t going to donate and neither am I, for what that’s worth!

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      Barnes again shown to be an incompetent fool, or he knows the guys running Blueprint and gets a kickback for that sweetheart deal. Nothing in sports is very appealing anymore and the more we find out the less we need to follow any of this. I’d advise any OSU fans who have previously donated to cease at this point until Barnes and Bray are gone.
      It was a momentary possibility to expect OSU to dominate a new PAC12, but that vanished a long time ago. OSU admin is lost in a void of confusion and idiocy. Stop giving to this bottomless pit of failure and demand more out of OSU administrators. How can any sane person read the notes on that deal and think that is the best way to use donation funds from OSU alums? Such a disaster, and again OSU gets kicked in the gut. It is almost time to hear all of the pollyanna’s come out of the woodwork and defend the effort Barnes has made to keep OSU relevant. Well, this is a disastrous report on how he has tried to do it.
      I have enjoyed the banter and grousing together over the years but I’m not sure how much longer I should keep up with OSU sports. I am fully skeptical of everything they try, and generally proven correct for that skepticism. So frustrating.

      It makes me wonder how difficult it is to transfer allegiances to a different school and root for a school that actually wants to win, tries to win, expects to win. OSU obviously knows nothing of these things and therefore gropes for answers, while pretending to say all of the right things, but never with any conviction in the voice.
      I actually regret the day I became a Beaver fan. We have great family memories of going to many sporting events etc, but this admin is just infuriating in so many ways. If OSU doesn’t care, why should I?

      • “It was a momentary possibility to expect OSU to dominate a new PAC12, ”

        I was hoping top 3 given BSU actually seems to have some vision, an identity, and maintains competitiveness most years…WSU seems to generally have OSU’s number…

        The deal above you describe is absurdly lazy and uncreative….

          • No, I just mean in the new PAC, in terms of competitiveness, I expected OSU to generally come in about 3rd most years in football, with BSU being the top most often…WSU more often than OSU….and OSU every several years might be the top.

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      Not surprised at all. They are screwed now and the PAC12 will probably save themselves in the neighborhood of ~$50M when you take into account reduced exit fees down to ~10-11M and zero poaching fees. Not that that will help the beavers win a game.

  25. Ohhhhhh, the Beavers just need to communicate better. Too bad they didn’t have spring camp, summer optional drills, fall camp, and practice to work on that…

    “To help Oregon State climb out of an 0-5 hole and start winning games, offensive coordinator Ryan Gunderson said his squad needs to start simple — talking.

    “I think our communication in those heavy moments can improve,” Gunderson said. “More plays are ruined by poor communication than poor scheme.”

    That becomes a bigger deal Saturday as the Beavers play a road game where communication could be difficult.

    At times the Beavers struggled with relaying calls to the players and making sure the entire offense was making adjustments and running the same play.

    “It’s a little bit of everything,” Gunderson said. “So when I stand out there at practice, I stand right behind the line. And if they don’t make the call, I go back to the huddle and we do it again.”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/10/communication-is-the-key-to-building-oregon-states-offensive-improvement.html

    5 games in and they can’t all run the same play…at home…one game the Oline had 6 false starts….at home…

    • Looking at Seat Geek, tickets for Saturday’s game start at $94. App State’s other remaining home games start at $102, $51, $93 and $53. Meanwhile, the Beavs remaining home games start at $17, $8, $39 and $8.

      • :::gulp:::These season tickets are paying off

        Speaking of, last week was dreadful from a fan perspective, while the seats on the east side were filled with students and better showing than the west side, the seats in my section (121) were mostly empty, and that new side was practically empty.

        Friday night, late start, 11:30pm finish, poor product, I get trying to hide the product where no one can see it, but ouch

    • trying to think of any other time our program has traveled across the country to play a road game against a G5 team?
      With no return game either.
      I can’t imagine it pays well

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    OSU is basically fulfilling all of the trash being said about it after the collapse of the conference. Everyone blamed OSU for dragging the conference down and that OSU should just go to MWC or even drop a division for football. We were somewhat indignant about the complete lack of respect from the other schools that had been long-time rivals/partners in the PAC12.
    It is incredible how badly OSU has navigated basic stuff that also impacts the life-line of the football program. The lack of creative marketing, pro-active planning for keeping fan interest, and now we see the absolute lunacy of handing over NIL to a 3rd party that scrapes 50% off the top. How is this even considered an option by OSU and Barnes?
    Is OSU afraid to embrace creativity, ingenuity, marketing, self-promotion, cutting edge ideas because they have been overwhelmed by those things from the Nike machine on behalf of the NikeU for so long?
    Or is it really as simple as this: OSU is the like elderly man that doesn’t understand new things, tries but can never quite figure it out. So they ask around, wait to see what others are doing and just try their best to follow how others have done it. They don’t have great resources, so they need to trust the recommendations of others to help with their budgets, and then get fleeced within a year or two. At the least, don’t give away half of your limited NIL budget to a for profit conflicted company.
    As noted above, it should be no surprise that the fan interest is waning fast, and will accelerate after this news. OSU sports is a constant joke and it is deserving of whatever mockery and jabs that will come. I am recalibrating my understanding of what was said about OSU 3 years ago and maybe the Traitors10 were more correct than we wanted to admit. I can admit that OSU athletics is a backwards thinking ship of fools. The admin doesn’t care about sports so why should we?

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      Not that I disagree with the premise, but don’t delude yourself into thinking the quacks came up with a brilliant marketing strategy, the Nike marketing machine is what has, and does propel that school.

      You see other traitors like UCLA sucking a dick right now too despite their advantages, and u$c still rides on shit they accomplished 20 years ago when the deck was stacked in their favor and yet can’t get over the b1g hump.

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        Sure Nike is the marketing team for UO. And yes, USC is living in the past and has built-in advantages etc, and of course UCLA is terrible again. But it still remains that OSU is consistently and horribly inept at basic stuff that any competent athletic department at any level of sports routinely does to promote and grow the fan interest etc. OSU has never even considered ditching Nike in sports apparel even when they clearly and regularly favored Oregon while clowning OSU. That is over a 25 year run of similar nonsense while the football program was on at least par with other PAC schools. No hint of forward thinking, including a half built stadium for 20 years, lame sun-faded banners unchanged on VFC for 5 years too long, and now NIL fleecing of donations. OSU is ridiculous and it isn’t really possible to explain how inept and poorly they handle stuff other than they just don’t care…Why should fans…?

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    Good read today in The Oregonian by Jon Wilner about the lawsuit and the presiding judge’s ruling on four separate issues all favoring the PAC12. So it would appear the PAC will save at least $55M in poaching fees due to the antitrust issue.

    There is still litigation remaining but everything sounds like the PAC is going to win another court battle. That said, it would be great if they could win a game or two on the field too.

  28. I first heard grumblings on the Blueprint deal in the Belligerent Beavs podcast (credit where credit is due) I thought they might have been overblowing what a titanic blunder this deal was. But, it seems to be picking up momentum and this article lays it out pretty clear, NIL is now just going to be a massive revenue source for 3rd party contractors. (https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2025/blueprint-sports-consulting-rev-share-oregon-state-1234872423/)
    Maryland is a decent comp to OSU in fundraising and NIL power, they recently renewed a contract with Blueprint. Just prior to this renewal, and his departure from Maryland to Villanova MBB Coach Kevin Willard said “First and foremost, I need to make sure where we are with NIL and rev share… Over the past two years, we’ve been one of the worst, if not lowest with NIL the past two years,” (https://247sports.com/college/maryland/article/maryland-athletics-makes-two-big-nil-related-decisions-249672479/)
    So Maryland’s solution for poor NIL collective, was to renew the contract with a company that was failing them! Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY the type of move we have come to expect from our athletic department.
    Who here would donate to our NIL knowing that 50% or more will never go to the athlete?

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    I think the NIL game is a facade for a lot of grifters to take advantage of the money and an attempt to replace the cash in the envelope booster with something that appears to be above board and more corporate.
    But the guys in the suits are still grifters and it seems like there is a layer of criminality around it all.
    If an athlete can figure out on his own how to capitalize on his own NIL beyond his scholarship like any other student, ok let him do it. But creating mega agent class of corporate “non profit” groups to represent entire athletic departments seems out of line and only makes the hole deeper, especially when those corporations skim 50% off the top.

  30. Probably a good thing that the Beavs-App state game isn’t on regular TV this weekend. It’s on ESPN+ so I’m sure they’ll have a lot of subscribers for that game or not.

  31. Sunny and 70 Saturday for the Beavers latest gag fest. How DO Bray and staff fit in that lil’ BeaverMobile? Special Teams coach always trips on his way out, and that FG attempt bit, hilarious!

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    OSU week in review:
    1) Beavs choke away a home win with questionable offensive play-calling and failures in special teams to kick a winning fg.
    2) Congress has inserted itself into the middle of college athletics with upcoming legislation that seems to address financial disparities but may not solve much.
    3) Bray appeals to players emotions/distress if a coaching change were to be made mid-season, and dodges firing anyone on his staff even after 0-5 start.
    4) PAC12 wins a legal battle with MWC for a potential $55 million
    5) BluePrint is exposed as the main NIL company responsible for OSU talent and we find out they get a 50% cut of anything raised on behalf of OSU athletes.

    A roller coaster and we get to start all over on Saturday with another football adventure.
    I’d be a fool to take the Beavs on the road especially east coast travel against a school that has shown they are serious about wanting to win in football. App St qb looked pretty bad against Boise St but OSU is no Boise St right now. He will probably have plenty of time to carve up OSU.
    App St 31
    OSU 27
    Does anyone think Hatcher will get the Tinkle treatment? He outshines the starter who the staff decided early on was the leader so he needs to sit for a while and learn how to wait his turn…Tinkle is always good for at least 2 of those a season.

    • Hatcher clearly looks like he is a P4 RB with his speed, balance and elusiveness and I don’t even think it’s a close second. Hankerson is great when he’s got a great OL but can’t really create on his own. That’s where the major difference between Hatcher and Hankerson exists. No doubt that Hatcher is more explosive and should start but loyalty to upperclassmen plays a huge factor.

        • So Hank started, Hatcher was the productive difference in the middle of the game, yet in crunch time, go back to Hank and the offense goes belly up. Hank both started and finished the game, but it was Hatcher’s game to win by the end and they failed to see it.
          We’ve seen freshmen outshine expectations in past seasons and they earned the chance to put the game away, but not this one. Why not?

  33. Cleveland falls to Detroit, Kwan done for season, but he went down swinging and hitting:

    “Guardians make a push in the eighth

    After a one-out single from Bryan Rocchio, Steven Kwan would find the right field corner for Cleveland’s second extra base hit of the game, putting runners on second and third with just one out.

    George Valera, who had scored Cleveland’s only run of the game to this point, came to bat against Will Vest, who was brought in to replace Tommy Kahnle. Valera struck out on five pitches.

    Jose Ramirez was next. He’d hit a lazy ground ball to first base, but while trying to cover the base, Vest bobbled the throw, allowing two runs to score and nearly pushing Ramirez to second base. He was thrown out.”

  34. From Blaylock interview:
    “In the example given by Sportico, if Blueprint Sports raises $3 million, it would receive $1.542 million in compensation, more than half of the total.

    “When they were totaling all that up, they included the management fee within that,” Blaylock said. “The management fee is not included in any part of the revenue share.”

    Blaylock said the management fee is completely separate, and the service Blueprint Sports provides for that $284,000 is a “great value in terms of staffing and level of support that we are able to get.”

    “For that management fee that we are providing them, we would not be able to come close to hiring the same level of talent here on our campus, especially three full-time workers, at that same number. In fact, it would probably have to be double that,” Blaylock said.

    He said it was also important to emphasize there is no revenue-sharing with Blueprint Sports on the first $750,000 that is raised for student-athletes.

    “The revenue share doesn’t start until they get above the $750,000 threshold. That’s critically important for us to be able to have that guarantee of support being provided to our student-athletes,” Blaylock said.”

    I’m sure how taking out the 284k is supposed to make this an appreciably better deal for OSU SAs or the school

    • Pretzel logic for cya narrative control purposes. The explanation only makes them sound even worse. Who negotiated the deal and who approved it?
      And how is it advantageous to OSU when the same Blueprint is also representing multiple schools and creating direct conflict of interests for athletes between schools?
      The whole thing wreaks and of course OSU is right in the middle of it getting take to the cleaners.

      • Yeah, and apparently to get the same level of service, they’d have to pay 3 people, $189k EACH, per year. Something about that statement alone makes the whole thing feel as if the AD just doesn’t want to deal with it, because that payroll number seems astronomically comical.

        • If BluePrint can hire 3 people for half the cost OSU can, it makes me suspect those people while being available “full time” are working for several schools at the same time who would be supplementing the cost of employment. If true a conflict of interest for sure.

    • IF – the deal only gives 50% of new donations above 750,000 and I mean individuals who have never donated before, I could see how you could spin that as a net win for OSU. That would be brand new money that theoretically blueprint would be bringing to the table. 50% is egregious though.

      I did talk to a friend in the athletics department and he said $750k in NIL contributions would be a huge increase. The implication was its unlikely they’ll achieve that baseline.

      I thought that comment was strange given OSU spent like $2M in NIL on a QB and TE’s. It make me wonder if that money didn’t come through DAM Nation. More likely an individual or individuals making a 1 time donation that went directly to the University or to the athletes through some other vehicle/collective? I don’t think schools are allowed to pay money directly for NIL.

      • I’m sure the deal with Blueprint is easy to justify since they’re being paid with the money they bring in. Very little overhead for the school to pull in money they never had. If someone told you they would find people to give you money for free and they only want half of the free money, you’re not going to say “No, I don’t want any free money”. It’s like a GoFundMe account.

        The real problem comes when the donors realize half their money is not actually going to the cause. But I’m guessing donors aren’t told that up front and I’m betting Blueprint does not like this information being publicized.

        • Listen, for a price, I can get you in contact with a Nigerian prince.

          Even assuming BP brings in NEW donors, which I haven’t seen any marketing myself or proof that is the case, the SA is the product. Blueprint has no business without that product. I find it highly unlikely any other marketing firm, or agent, is getting a >50% cut of something they are selling.

  35. All this is for l’il ole OSU? Would we have had a clue, except for the Sportico article? did this largesse purchase our current hlah qb and the ends who can’t catch the ball?

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    BASEBALL roster
    According to Eggers math, “Gone are players accounting for 82 of the 107 home runs the Beavers belted a year ago.”
    He gives a pretty thorough run down of the ’26 roster and comes to the same conclusion many here did awhile back…more small ball and very good pitching.

    Miiiiitch chimes in, “…this group has a lot more speed and contact potential…”

    Looks like good competition for catcher. Hubbard and Galloway seem top candidates. Note that Galloway was all PAC12 in ’24 at USC.

    https://www.kerryeggers.com/stories/beaver-baseball-26-same-great-pitching-different-style-offense

  37. Saw that Kyle Bjornstad has resigned from his position within the AD. He’s the former Beaver athlete who was running the DamNation collective before OSU signed it over to OSU.
    Anybody know why he resigned? I dint think he had anything to do with the Bluestreme deal.
    Although I bet he wasnt happy to see what they are getting paid after he was on an island making the project work for a couple years for likely much less.

    • From the piece in the zero:
      Blueprint purchased Dam Nation from co-founder Kyle Bjornstad in August. Blueprint CEO Rob Sine told Sportico that the sale was for “over $100,000.”

      Sine did not respond to an emailed interview request before this story was published. Bjornstad now contracts with OSU to execute settlement-related revenue share agreements with athletes.

    • Canzano has an article out on this.

      KB resignation appears to be total, no further work at OSU or BluePrint. He apparently cited lack of support for his duty’s from OSU in a resignation letter but wouldn’t elaborate when asked by Canzano. Per sources he had a rocky relationship with OSU Asst AD Blaylock who spearheaded the sale of DAM Nation to BluePrint and finalized the 3 year agreement between OSU and BluePrint.

      Some interesting notes:
      BluePrint only gets a cut of new $ above $750K
      BluePrint doesn’t get a cut of existing donor $ or apparently new donors that they don’t actively bring to the table. According to Blaylock DamNation membership donations are untouched by BluePrint “if someone signs up for a $500 membership, all that money goes to the athletes.”
      According to Kyle DAM Nation distributed $5M in NIL money last year at a cost of less than 5% off the top for expenses. It was unclear whether DAM Nation raised that money or the foundation directed the money there.
      OSU will continue to steer its high dollar donors into the OSU Foundation.

      • I mean, if you bypass the cut on the first $750k, but take 75% of the next $750k, you’re still getting 50% of the total pie.
        Memberships never sum up to an amount greater than $750k, so they can say memberhips dont get taxed, but eventually they really do get a 50% haircut, they play a semantics game by shifting the percetages/tiers

  38. Why do people breaking up with their university always have to do it in public on social media?
    Also, i wonder if this resignation has anything to do with Sportico getting access to the unredacted Blueprint deal? Doesn’t it seem odd they had a perfectly clean copy of that contract from a simple public records request? Almost feels like it was leaked rather than obtained via public records request.

  39. Once schools could “in-house” collectives, DAM NATION was on borrowed time. What we’ve been missing in this story is EXAMPLES of what Blueprint has done. My guess is they are a sports marketing company that is wading into the college space. You would think someone from Blueprint would be on the record saying, “We work with national companies and brands to allow them to have the greatest reach and consistent presentation.” So Jim Bob from Arkansas State and Mike Smith are inserted into the same messaging for say “NAPA Auto Parts” since they have locations in both of those cities. NAPA doesn’t have to rely on the local ownership or graphic design talent to determine the best course to take.”

    Something like that is what one should have EXPECTED. Its odd that we’re only hearing Blaylock’s version. I do have a feeling this will just end up moving money around, like the TV money in the last Pac-12 deal ended up just offsetting attendance declines/ticket sales because people stayed home to watch on TV.

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        Sharks in suits. The amounts of money involved is ever-increasing and the more money means cleaner looking thieves to take it. The presentation is much nicer looking but in the end it is still a grift.
        Interesting how these types of companies pop up out of nowhere to assist in handling millions of dollars for multiple schools on behalf of the student-athletes. I hope there are less and less NIL options for these companies to fund raise from, because everyone sees a massively flawed system and refuses to throw money at it. And it also explains why Nvidia/Huang is a no show in the athletics department donations.
        The progression of the car dealer booster:
        1970- hey kid…hands the athlete an envelope with $100 cash, school doesn’t know anything
        1980- hey kid…hands the athlete an envelope with $1000 cash, school might know but no one can prove it
        1990-hey kid…hands the athlete an envelope with $5000 cash and a car, school is aware and hopes no one digs because everyone is doing it
        2000-hey kid…hands the athlete a monthly $5000 cash and a car, pays for the house for his parents, school pretends not to know anything because “if you aren’t cheating you aren’t trying”
        2010…hey kid…hands the athlete a monthly $5000 cash, car, mortgage and hosts autograph signing events, complains that NCAA is a joke for not paying these kids
        2020…hey kid…all of the above, and demands athletes get paid above scholarships, and wants to have the athlete do an advertisement for his car dealership so he can pay him as an honest businessman
        2025…car dealer is happy to just give to blue suit managers so they can manage all of his previous influence correctly and the athlete gets everything needs
        In summary, now the car salesman is happy that someone else is finally stepping in to manage all of the resources he previously directed into the athletes pockets? And the car salesman is even happier that the managers eventually get 50% of that revenue? Meanwhile the car salesman loses touch with his beloved program and doesn’t really get to cheat anymore but he is relieved because he was always an altruistic figure wanting the best for the athletes over the years? C’mon, the long-time boosters who were crossing the lines over and over, won’t all of a sudden go straight now that things are official and permissible. These guys will continue to try to end-run the school and go outside of school protocols because it is their investment not Blueprint’s.
        Car salesmen boosters were always a blight, in a typical and general sense representing all of the shadiness in past decades, but this new form of the shadiness makes it all look legit and only much more corporate/business-like. I am skeptical of it at the start and not surprised OSU is going to be hood-winked by it.
        But Blueprint will somehow manage to raise more funds and supplement existing streams of donations? I doubt is. OSU donors are tapped out and I’d bet unwilling to keep giving to the outside suits for any reason.

        I don’t trust it even if you think it is fine, Jack.

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    Get ready for some more dumpster fire football. Hard to imagine this team winning on road against anyone. I’m guessing at least 1 blocked kick, 1 blocked/botched punt, giving up punt or kick return for TD, a missed extra point, at least 5 false starts, a qb that continues to miss wide open receivers, a pick 6, at least 1 fumble, and receivers that drop at least 2 balls. The problems plaguing this team aren’t magically fixed by playing lesser teams. Beavs lose 19 to 31.

  41. i said it like three weeks ago and each week since, but you cannot let this go on any longer. this program is in an absolute death spiral and every second bray and his staff stay employed the further the hole gets. there may be no coming back from it.

  42. I’m not sure I’ll listen to much more of this game. I couldn’t imagine paying extra to watch this trainwreck. You got a admit that App State is a juggernaut. And now App State on the verge of going up 17-0.

    I think this program needs to self invoke the death penalty. Now it’s 17-0.

  43. What garbage. I’m convinced 0-12 would be the only thing to guarantee some kind of real action by the athletic department.

    We can do this…

  44. Watching more out of morbid curiosity at this point, but did not realize how just utterly inept this team looks.

    The pieces are there to be competitive somewhat but it’s like this team lacks any cohesive plan and seems just so lost and asleep at the wheel…

  45. 17-14 App St as their FG kicker misses the chance to move it to a 6 pt lead.
    Beavs with 36 seconds before halftime, lets not have a TO

  46. At the half Beavs lead in: pass yds, rush yds, 1st downs, time o possession
    Penalties: Beavs 2/12yds, App 3/15yds
    No sacks for either team, Beavs with 2 TFL’s
    Still down 17-14with 30 min to go………..Parker backs away from the ledge, for now.

  47. Oh yeah, the Beavs are playing. Vandy is no longer a baseball school. Up 14-7 at Bama. They look like a top 10 team and pretty sure they don’t have many 4 & 5 star recruits. Curious on how much NIL money goes to the football program. Would bet most would go to baseball.

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    At this point, I’m rooting for an 0-6 start. Even if the Beavs do make a comeback to win, and I don’t think they will, would that really feel like a win?

    • He missed a wide open receiver in the end zone and then throws a pick. He is awesome and we all thought DJU was bad!

      BTW, UCLA leading Penn State 34-28 with 9 minutes to go so that has to take a little luster off the ducks win especially if UCLA wins.

      • Hilarious 4th down from inches out and can’t score. This team is on the verge of 0-6? I don’t care if MM has a broken freaking hand put him under the center and push him 8 inches. Fire bray, fire the entire coaching staff.

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    Speaking of pathetic, the O-line is pretty sad, can’t move a Sun Belt DL on two straight Wildcat carries by Hankerson. It’s down to this play.

    And God, these announcers are bad!

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    What the hell is Murphy looking at? Wells was not close to being open. Does Murphy want to throw a game-ending pick? He just needed a few yards for the first down. Just dumb decisions. Has to be a by-product of bad coaching.

  51. Lmao, ok that was a good line by the announcers, “quite frankly if you are watching this you got allegiance to one of these schools”

  52. As I said above, Hatcher is on the bench and Hankerson can’t pick up 1 yard or less on multiple attempts. These coaches are incompetent!

  53. Oh my god this reads/sounds like some awful coaching…glad I didn’t watch. On the 1, can’t punch it in for the win with Hatcher?!?

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    These play calls are truly hideous. Bailed out by a phantom PI. The O-line is just sad. I think it’s been six plays now where they can’t get one yard.

    • Yup. according to national stats, he’s among the worst when tied or down 1-7 points and also on third down. However, he also comes out in the first quarter quite cold, which probably contributes to later in the game (not unlike the team’s performance yesterday). It’s not all on him since the play calling is often suspect. 4th down is good, but he’s only thrown 4 passes. It’s hard to understand some of the forced passes resulting in interceptions, particularly the end zone.

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    Bray will still have a job. Nothing changes around here. What an absolute joke. Riley 2.0 lmao Homer coach picks never work out.

  56. App tried to give this one the the Beavs, 6 penalties for 49yds.
    Who was worried that MM would take a redshirt?
    Anyone think Sullivan, Foster, and Collins will be around next season?

  57. At least they got that big payout for taking on a P5 team on the road….

    That trip back is going to SUCK.

    I’m actually feeling sorry for a number of the players…

    give Hatcher 10 more carries in the 4th, including key moments, they probably win?

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    Bless our boys, they played their hearts out for dear ol’ OSU. If the train makes it back from North Carolina on time, I would give each of them a free cup of punch at tonight’s sock hop.

    • Riiight- we don’t really get to harken back to the ‘golden years of college football’ until we play the Cougs – TWICE! I wonder if the retro unifroms will consist of leather helmets, wool jersy’s and canvas pants! 23 skidoo! I’ll be having my racoon tail, too.

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    On a positive note, 13th-ranked Beav Rugby pounded Boise State 50-12 in Corvallis this morning. My boy scored his first collegiate try!

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    You wanna know why we lost this game? This game wasn’t lost today, and it wasn’t lost by athletes in uniforms. It’s much deeper than that.
    Tiny App St… doesn’t accept losing. They are winners.
    We were winners from 1998-2014. When Andersen was brought in so was an era of apathy, penny pinching and mediocrity.
    The apathy of keeping Tibisar 3 years longer than needed. The apathy of no one being held accountable for the gross incompetence of this coaching staff!
    App St wouldn’t do that, they fired their coach for a losing season last year. One 5-6 season in Boone, and you get shown the door.

    • Yeah, it is gonna be difficult to sell this board on the idea that Riley was the “good era” but it appears to be where all this is heading.

      And I celebrated when he left, ultimately the university just doesn’t care and until that changes (or they stumble into a coach that cares), nothing matters.

      • Riley wasn’t the good era.

        It was the okay era that petered out in the last third of the era, since we hired someone who quit on us, when that absolutely should have been a rule that we should not have broken.

        Dude quit.

        Dude should have never been given a second chance.

        PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!

  61. So, throwing into a 6 man front on both 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 was interesting…….

    At least our coaches think in unique ways.

    • I’m told passing is how you open up the running game.

      It’s the new way of college football and imagining the NFL is also doing it.

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    Can we all now agree that the disparity between OSU and uo has never been greater? OSU is the worst team in college football, and uo is arguable the best team in college football! OSU should either drop football or drop down to FCS Division 1-AA in my opinion. The higher-ups obviously don’t care about producing a winning football team. Their possible first win won’t come until Lafayette, and that isn’t a guarantee. Now the Beavs are 0-6, will be 0-7 after Wake Forest. Absolutely pathetic! I listened to the game just when OSU missed a field goal (surprise!) wide right being down 17-0 and turned it off because I knew they were going to lose. Maybe if fans just stay home and Reser is empty the higher ups will take notice? Very sad for 0-6U.

  63. Well at least the players weren’t upset by having the special teams staff fired. All they contributed was a fumble that led directly to a td for App St and later a missed fg. I’m wondering if the Bray values the players feelings as they are careening towards the worst team in college football now. Perhaps some changes are in order to try and win games, rather than worrying about players feelings over coaches getting fired.

    OSU can’t stay out of their own way. Two weeks in a row and they can’t get a 3 & short, 4th & short to seal a win? Maybe if they had a productive rb who can get extra yards regularly. Oh they do, but he only gets to play in 2nd/3rd quarters apparently.

    We are seeing the same problems over and over. It is bad coaching, not demanding more, not holding each other or the players accountable for the repeated mistakes.

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    This program is officially DOA and it is doubtful they can be resuscitated even by divine intervention. I’ve invested way too much of my time and money to a lesser degree to justify wasting anymore on CFB. It used to be my favorite sport but now I really just don’t care enough about it anymore to make it worth my time.

    I enjoy the comments on this platform and will continue to follow but I’m really just uninterested in CFB in general. Frankly, I’m hoping an 0-12′ year will force the hand of administration to take a hard look at the current situation and try to fix it. In the meantime, the trainwreck is just too hard to watch.

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    Disparity:
    UO’s qb, with initials MM, won the Heisman trophy. He is still earning millions in the NFL.
    OSU’s qb, with initials MM, can’t decide where to throw the ball, so throws it between receivers to let them decide.It is assumed his football earnings will not exceed 1.5 million.

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    Now we watch for the “season ending injuries” to start stacking up.
    Bray won’t say why any injury is so guys can just decide to stop plying due to an oblique strain and wait for transfer season since postseason is out of the question.
    MM needs benched.
    ST and OC need fired.
    Hatcher should be getting 20-25 carries/game.
    Cavanaugh stinks as oline coach and should be fired too.
    Get rid of Langsdorf and Akey tonight.
    In fact, Barnes should resign tonight in shame as well.
    Tinkle should be fired too while we are cleaning house.
    Make Rueck men’s HC, bring Casey in as AD, and direct all athletic funds into the baseball program. We are no differ than Dallas Baptist as a baseball school and all other sports are nonexistent.

      • Aw shucks I was just joking…let’s just continue the current path and see why happens. They’ve accomplished to win 5 out of 18 games in Bray fledgling career. Why mess with it now. Give him time. Let him bring in more advisors to assist with areas that are weaknesses. I’m sure if we keep doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results that the team will eventually figure out how to win in spite of their own errors.
        Bray knows he is losing fam support but he is in too deep to admit it now.
        Barnes can’t admit it was a mistake either offer less than 2 years.
        Oh well, back to the absolute bottom of the football world. It could be fun to watch just how bad a team has to be to finish a year 0-12.

        • Bingo. Hell look at UCLA, coach is gone, the pull off a giant upset. It’s fine to lose if other teams paid for better talent but this might be one of the worst coaching staffs ever assembled. We literally lost one game because we didn’t have a backup snapper. And our Make a Wish coach tried 4 field goals. If this was a company he would have been two games ago. It’s unacceptable, I don’t see any potential. He’s a good position coach, he needs to go back to that.

          • I’m not arguing what I have expressed in about ten words.

            I’m laughing at the “woe is me” aspect of his constant whining. His posts have been pathetic to even skim for about a month, now. He’s gone from wacky conspiracy nut I might enjoy laughing at if he called in to Art Bell to a whiny loser who needs to find blame in everyone… probably except himself.

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    Bray post game:

    “What do you say to fans that have just pretty much thrown their hands up and given up?

    Bray: Nothing. I talk to the team. My responsibility is to the players.

    Do you not care what the fans think?

    Bray: That’s not what I’m saying. Let’s not twist my words. My responsibility is to the team first, and that’s who I answer to.

    Next game: Wake Forest (3-2) at Oregon State (0-6)”

  68. No wonder MM left Duke bc if he had stayed, he would have been a backup. Duke looks good on the road vs Cal and leads at half time by 10, 31-21.

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    Again, all I can do at this point is laugh. I’m almost completely apathetic.

    One of the most frustrating things about Murphy that I continue to notice game to game is that he will consistently miss or ignore easy short throws or opportunities to run for a decent chunk of yardage in order to force a risky low percentage throw deeper down field. He’s not even able to reliably make those short yardage throws either, though.

    The anti DJU revisionist history that I sometimes see is completely wrong. He certainly had his flaws, but he was certainly our most reliable quality QB since Luton, and we’ve gone through a lot of QBs since Luton.

  70. Would you rather be:
    Texas and Sarkisian under achieving again
    Mark Sanchez
    The Beavs
    I could add James Franklin as well

    At least for the Beavs there are very low expectations!

    • I would add the Oklahoma State football program to your list. As a “Power 4” program, they probably have fewer excuses than the Beavs.

    • I think 7 wins was realistic, with maybe an outside chance at 9.

      After the first half of the first game, 3 was the outside chance. That was more than a month ago.

      The coaching is confusingly bad. I haven’t seen any of yesterday’s game, but the first 3 quarters of the Houston game (and it sounds like the 1st at Autzen?) are the only moments we’ve looked like an actual football team.

      • I thought 7-5 was a pretty realistic record too but just goes to show you how unpredictable things are. Now I’m guessing 2-10 is probably how they’ll end but really hoping for 0-12 so it will force some major changes in the program.

    • Well, the local and national media thought they would be vastly improved. If they hadn’t already, the local guys have lost all credibility. Interestingly, someone locally (I think Daschel) responded to my comment about this and said there is some preseason sugarcoating that goes on to maintain access throughout the season.

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    Hard to believe, but it could be worse:

    “Bill Belichick

    It opened with a trick play for a Clemson TD and the laughs just kept coming Saturday. Things aren’t going well for Chapel Bill. The Tar Heels trailed Clemson 28-3 at the end of the first quarter, and UNC students had seen enough, heading for the exits — probably to He’s Not Here (I’m wondering how many Heels fans wished that about Sir Hoodie). Clemson scored four touchdowns on its first 16 plays. Maybe hiring your son to run your defense wasn’t the best move… North Carolina lost 38-10 (it wasn’t that close) and is 0-3 vs. Power Four opponents, having been outscored 120-33. On to Cal? More like on to basketball season.”

    Bilichek has NFL chops and connections that should bolster recruiting, experience winning at football’s biggest stage, more player $$$ than Oregon State, and the team likely has the greatest difference between fair expectations and results. Oh, and nepotism? Tops even OSU’s in bred approach.

    Bilichek will go out as a dirty old man and his GF will probably be screwing 20 year olds in her 40s…

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    Well, OSU is back on the national stage as being one of three teams with the opposite of undefeated seasons so far in FBS. If you’re going to be one of the worst teams on CFB, be the best at being the worst! We can do this guys 0-12!

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    Apparently, lots of frustration in Pudgy Traitor Smith’s locker room and fan base with their recent loss to Nebraska. Fans complaining about Chiles at QB and Smith talking about frustration in the locker room…I’m betting he bolts for UCLA in the off season and has probably got his agent sending out the feelers to UCLA. Traitors don’t change who they are but only change their next coaching job. LOSER!

  74. How about Gunderson? Can’t score from 8″ bc direct snap 4-5 yards in the backfilled on consecutive plays. The guy is a putz!

  75. The Sagarin Ratings have Oregon State at 113! There are 136 FBS schools this year. But then again, those ratings have Notre Dame ahead of Miami and Texas A and M, two undefeated teams that beat the Irish.

    Guess those wins against Boise, Purdue and Arkansas were really something….

  76. Rumors swirling that Bray has contacts with a hotshot special teams coach who could also fill in as OC.
    The guys name is Rike Miley. Barnes is busy stacking nickels to see what is left in the budget to get him in right away to salvage the season.

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    I’ll just point out the obvious with the timing and statements regarding ST coach getting fired.
    Bray said last week he didn’t want to disrupt the locker room by firing any coach.
    Bray says this week is the proper time to let a coach go.
    Barnes says they will make a great effort to find the right replacement.

    So Bray is given a pass for acting so slowly on an obvious problem that has cost them at least 3 games this year?
    Barnes makes a silly statement to appear
    that he is highly involved and is planning on a thorough search for the replacement at ST coach after taking zero time to hire Bray when everything collapsed.
    OSU setting up to fail once again.

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