Let’s continue the JMS discussion here, last thread went over 500.
Plenty to discuss as the new HC brings in staff and we watch player movement in and out.
Intro press availability set for Tuesday. What do you want to hear from Barnes, JMS, Murthy(?); what could they say that’ll make ya cringe?
As ever, feel free to chime in on all things Beav; MBB, WBB, wrestling, along with other sports. And, of course, BASEBALL.
Bunch of stuff to address. I’ve asked chat gpt a bunch. Out of 3 units it went special teams worst, then offense, then Defense Best.
Paying murphy an immobile Duke reject was first bad thing, legit probably should have spent money elsewhere and just started Tia. Probably should have went out and got a WR if possible (Or Oline), idk how NIL really works tho. but that was probably our BIGGEST weakness anywhere on offense or Defense?
As played with Murphy no clue why our base package needs to be shotgun when he isnt mobile, but is actually tall so has good vision.. It makes our play calling very clunky for crucial short 3/4th down situations. IE see how bad we did at goal line vs app st, also stuffed on another shotgun run in critical spot 4th and 1 that i can’t recall.
We played 2 playoffs teams on the road, ok so now we’re left with 10 games. With better scheme and play calling and reasonable special teams play 5-5 is not much to ask at all. Fresno St, app st, sam houston all should have been wins. And then that changes everything
TBH getting a 3 and out on first possession of season vs CAL, them punting then us gifting them a first down with too many men on the field should have told everyone here that was it for year. (naturally this drive ended in a TD for them )
Overall horrible coaching, scheming, NIL decisions, play calling, and quite a bit of bad luck. Bray was a horrible in game coach, seems like he may have been decent to good as just a D coordinator though tbh
Ok… and what are YOUR thoughts?
What is this garbled mess?
A little more on Eron Hodges, JMS’s choice for the General Manager spot.
Along with his time at ‘Bama, Hodges has been at Ohio St, Purdue, and TCU. Always involved in player personnel, some work with “defensive analyst control responsibilities ” in addition to player personnel.
He seems to have done well at places with deeper pockets than OSU, his ability to adapt likely will be a factor in Corvallis.
Purdue and TCU were about as deep a pocket as we have now, when he was at either of them.
From a ‘Bama chat board, some truth that’s been discussed here re: cliques/inbreeding:
Shep got his break and some guys in assistant or analyst roles are getting their break with him. This is how it is supposed to work. How DeBoer builds and rebuilds a staff is what will separate him from a pretty good coach to a great one. Many a good careers are landmined because they had a clique they floated up the progression to the top and never really developed a system for growing new coaches.
Do those boards generally speak highly of him? Thats probably a good sign if so. I know nothing about him so I have no opinion. If hes successful he’ll be gone sooner then later with the way coaches are getting dumped in the P4.
I am beginning to get very interested in how this goes with JMS.
I’m all for prioritizing NIL for Dline and oline before anyone else and let it be known to the entire locker room. Set the tone for why it is prioritized that way and demand the skill guys perform over their abilities as a result.
The skill guys will always jump first because they are the splashier stat guys that become known, but if they can keep talented linemen it wins games with lesser talent at wr, qb, te, lb etc.
And I hope he has a special teams wizard from somewhere along his journey to begin rebuilding an atrocious special teams unit.
“I’m all for prioritizing NIL for Dline and oline before anyone else…”
Do this correctly, and fill around with 3* players, and they can win 10 games…
The Beavers O and D lines were noticeably smaller than most of the teams they lost to this year. And it isn’t something you can develop over a few seasons in a weight room. That’s the real problem with the portal and NIL. If players had one free transfer, that would be one thing. And being linemen, they tend to get rotated in and out during games, so you aren’t going to find a second or third string DT who feels he’s being wasted on the bench. They are likely in on a bunch of snaps already.
I don’t care what’s said at the press conference as long as Murthy doesn’t say “we’re bringing our A-game”.
And don’t ever say put your “Big Boy Pants” on!
Any chance Justin Wilcox would take on a DC + assistant HC role?
13 penalties for 119 yards and 3 turnovers vs WSU. Not gonna win many games with those numbers. One thing is for sure: the bonehead penalties took place all year long and never went away as the season progressed.
Another Alabama assistant getting a coaching position upgrade on Shephard’s staff.
Alabama co-DC Maurice Linguist appears to be our new DC
https://x.com/PacChatNetwork/status/1995329041822343373?t=HzdYtCO0QaeY03wtuoANzg&s=19
I saw that. And I’m very skeptical of how legit that X account is.
Yeah, I should have waited to see more sites confirm it. I haven’t heard anything to indicate they’re wrong, but they’re also not a known news breaking site. Take it with a grain of salt at this point.
Didn’t JSM talk about an experienced staff to surround him? If this hire transpires does this fit that idea?
yeah, that’s my concern as well. maybe the report isn’t accurate. While he might be a good coach, the lack of DC experience makes it a pretty risky hire for the full time DC position. Maybe some type of hybrid Co-DC/Defensive Backs role would work, but that would be a lateral move so seems doubtful it would be attractive unless he likes a huge challenge and living on the West coast.
He resigned as HC at Buffalo to be the co-DC/DB at Bama.
Someone who figured out they didn’t want to be more than a coordinator?
Well, that would track as a coordinator with HC experience. Alabama also has a fairly good defense. ‘Bama uses a 4 man front, which I prefer for the type of recruits OSU gets up front. I’d like this hire, if it is accurate.
I did read on a Bama site they would be bummed to lose him because their db play is very good in their opinion. OSU is in a tough spot because you may have a list of staff you want and then there’s the reality of who you can pay and get to take the opportunity.
Has there ever been this many coaching changes/turmoil in a single season of college football? There isn’t time for a coach to build a program or enough money to build every roster with 5 star talent. Not everyone can make the playoff each year, and what is the point of bowl games anymore? A lot of players don’t really care to play in bowl games. I just really hate what the portal and NIL has done to college football.
I think it is really funny to see how Mich St hired J Smith expecting a huge turnaround with the guys he brought from OSU but Indiana hired Cignetti the same year with much better results and much better players/coaching.
Smith never had a chance once he was being compared to Cignetti.
I guess in the long run $40million softens the blow to the ego. He should stay clear of Corvallis for sure though. I wonder if he ever considers how much damage he did to the football program by how he left.
Not his fault Barnes hired Bray and couldn’t get money together to keep Smith. Players leave every year. The team didn’t have a conference. WBB makes elite 8 and the team left. Smith watched out for himself. Maybe once in a lifetime opportunity to coach in the big 10 and hit the payday. Ideally he would have finished the season strong but the CFB calendar is wacko (see Lane Kiffin leaving in the midst of a playoff run).
Good enough points, but there is the matter of a couple days around the CW; he didn’t need to demoralize the team the way he did.
Smith could have handled his exit better. Done a farewell interview with Canzano a week later and explained how he was worried about losing his staff to other programs and the budget being cut. And he didn’t damage the program. That credit goes to Ed Ray whose job it was to protect the university in all aspects, and failed miserably, with his blind support of Larry Scott and the guy who followed him. The coaches at OSU were asked to eat that turd sandwich and those who chose to eat elsewhere were depicted as being ungrateful.
Meanwhile, schools that follow the “norms”- that wait for a season to end before making a decision on the coach – are left with scraps. Who is Kentucky going to end up with? Or was Stoops “I’m not leaving” thing yesterday aimed at getting canned so he could walkaway with the buyout. With seven coaches getting canned in the SEC (at their salary levels) at least it helps even out the cash disparity for college football.
“…with his blind support of Larry Scott and the guy who followed him.”
My goodness. The lie grows into more of a lie.
It was 2013. All but three presidents in the Pac 12 were new, and we had the biggest TV contract in the history of college sports. The new Presidents were skeptical of Limo Larry’s largesse and the admittedly poor choice to lease in downtown San Fran. But the three who remained (one being Ray) spoke to them and told them this was how they got the TV contract. So they all voted to extend Scott for another five years.
In 2018, every single one of the Presidents voted to extend him another five years, without comment. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
That’s the whole of the, “Ed Ray supported Larry Scott,” narrative. Anything else is just a lie.
When he was fired, Nikegon got their guy, Kliavkoff, in. And they also supplied him staff from their own AD. He was all their guy and in no way ours. Not sure whose ass you pulled that lie out of.
It really doesn’t matter who else supported Scott. And Ray being one of the more senior college Presidents could have used what sway he had to protect OSU better. Asked more questions, contacted some folks in other conferences and retired people in the broadcasting industry to hear what they thought. My point was and is, Smith was seen as being disloyal when the circumstances of the job changed, when those tasked with protecting the school’s place in the Pac-12 and the conference itself failed.
Also pretty sure many media watchers felt the Pac-12 tv deal that Scott was credited for getting (the biggest in the sport at the time) knew it would be quickly bypassed and dwarfed by what the SEC and BIG 10 were cooking up and the length of the deal was the kicker.
But the truth of it is that not as many people watched Pac-12 games as watched the SEC or Big 10 – the interest just wasn’t and isn’t there, and expecting a network to pay the same or comparable amount to a conference that delivers two-thirds of the audience (IF USC is playing) of the Big 10 or SEC is delusional. They should have taken the deal that ESPN gave the Big XII or at least offered UCLA and USC a bigger piece of the pie to keep them.
In the end, the Directv distribution fail wasn’t even Scott’s fault. It was the Presidents of the schools who nixed a pricing decrease, because then we would have had to accommodate Comcast with the same price.
It’s a little hard to get anything done correctly when the USCs, UWs, and Nikegons of the world keep shooting the Conference in the foot.
Which goes to my point of the craziness of coaches being contacted and changing teams before the season is over. It’s terrible for the players, fans, etc.
He hired a realtor in mid October to get his house ready to sell. He knew he was leaving at that point. He snuck out the backdoor in the middle of the night like a coward and had the nerve to recruit players in the locker room after the civil war loss. It wasn’t the fact that he left but it was the backhanded way in which he did it.
When MSU hired him, I posted on one of their boards he would last no more than 3 years so it looks like I gave the traitor too much credit. I doubt he ever gets another HC job at the FBS level.
I was told he had gone to MSU during the buy week of the season he left. It is disappointing how it all went down.
Smith should have never have left. It has been seen over and over again, coaches that do well at Oregon State never translate to bigger programs. Jonathan Smith was about developing a culture and building and went to a school that was unwilling to give him time to do so. Oregon State needs a committed builder.
Another coach goes down. Kentucky firing their coach. Means even more players headed to the portal.
Shephard’s recruiting reputation will be put on the line right away with so many players from P4 programs likely to enter the portal.
This will come up in his press conference but he needs to step away from Alabama as soon as he can. It’s not good for the Beavs if he’s with them for a long playoff run. His staff needs to come together quickly to get guys enrolled by winter/spring. Can’t do that if he’s still coaching. If he doesn’t, he may not have enough guys to run a spring practice.
True. However, if they do have a long run how many players actually follow him to Corvallis. The bigger need is to build the staff, evaluate/find available transfers who are able to fill holes and review/refill the roster.
I’ll say this, Ole Miss will probably go further than the other SEC teams. I kind of want Texas Tech vs Indiana for the National Championship Game.
Just for some new “brands?”
Even if Indy has a bunch of NIL money, I’d like them to win it all and beat the other money schools at their game..
Seeing a headline in the OLive that Sappington had a career day the other day with 4 field goals and apparently the longest of his career. Ducks call him “Automatic.”
When a Beav, Aticus was called “Automaticus” by many.
Another traitor!
DeBoer on Shepard and timing of move:
““He’s wanting to be a part of it as much as he can,” DeBoer said. “I expect that, once we get to probably Tuesday, him to be with us the rest of the week getting ready for this game.”
Alabama will face Georgia on Saturday (3 p.m. CT, ABC) at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta for the SEC Championship Game. The winner will receive an automatic bid for the College Football Playoff.
“He really wants to be a part of everything that we do throughout,” DeBoer said. “There’s a couple things here right now early in the week that he’s got to take part in as far as obligations, getting things started there with his opportunity at Oregon State, which we’re super excited for.”
Ha! “Woody Hayes would love the Tennessee Titans’ passing game – 3.7 yards and a cloud of dust. That’s how it went Sunday, when rookie QB Cam Ward needed 38 throws … to gain 141 yards through the air.”
My 38-14 prediction was good. My overall predictions were great. I had us at 3 or 4 wins, I think, and a lot of glorified HS play. I am looking forward more to next year with the new coach. Was never a Bray guy…seemed like an easy nepotistic hire, which OSU is known for.
I’ll give you credit for most of the predictions, but you were wrong about the glorified HS play prediction. We weren’t remotely close to that level of play.
Agreed. I’m not sure special teams was seven junior high level. I expect the Beavers ST was the worst in the nation for both DI and Aubrey DII.
While the new HC is compelling, and his hires will be of interest, the schedule will not be very compelling. In conference foes of some interest are limited for me to WSU, BSU, Fresno, SDSU.
https://osubeavers.com/sports/2013/11/7/future-schedules
For out of conference, TT, Houston, Ole Miss, BYU aren’t bad…
In the future, it will be tough to schedule non G5 teams, but I’d be up for non-con games with UCLA, UW, Stanford, CAL as schools that OSU can compete with, as long as they get games in Corvallis too. Those schools would likely welcome regional travel for a road game. UW may be tough, but I suspect they’ll be vulnerable, especially if they lack coaching stability.
Geezus…typos…”even” not “seven,” not sure how “Aubrey” even got in there….
Haha. True. Glorified Pop Warner.
In Pop Warner they do not punt or kickoff. So this year’s team could have flourished against 8th graders.
I don’t like that this is the first thing Shephard sees when he arrives in Corvallis.
Barnes with the awkward bro handshake/hug followed by the band lining the stairs.
I love my band geeks, but this has me cringing.
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1995560222849728870
Eh… looks pretty harmless. The handshake/hug was actually competent, except that Barnes needs to remember he’s a pretty big person and can swallow some smaller people.
Modeled after the Lincoln Riley intro at USC?!?
Get the full band and Benny if you’re going to do it all…
I imagine his kid: “I don’t think we’re in Alabama anymore.”
Yeesh…
IIRC mich state did the same when traitor smith landed in East landfill, pretty standard fare
Really, going to judge him on a handshake and a hug? I suppose he could have given him a chest bump.or a Wazzup Bro! Lol
I liked it!
Looked fine to me. Might be overthinking it a bit.
Sorry smith!
The Bruins are expected to hire James Madison coach Bob Chesney to lead the Bruins, according to multiple reports.
According to ESPN, Chesney informed James Madison of his decision on Monday, Dec. 1. The outlet reported the Dukes coach will sign a five-year deal.
The agreement ends the longest coaching search in the country that last 10 weeks after UCLA fired Deshaun Foster on Sept. 14.
i know i’m in the minority here, but I’d be on board with Smith coming back as OC, if and only if it meant Coach M came back as well.
And no spot for Lindgren. Gotta separate those 2 guys.
But Smith would be a cheap hire who brings quite a bit of experience in that role.
And he’s a terrible CEO, so Shephard could focus on that role
I think that would be a tough sell. Logical maybe but emotions could over-rule it for sure.
I’m honestly not sure I like JS as OC since he was close to being run out of UW as OC before OSU hired him. I’d say there are lots of other OC options before going back to the Smith well again.
Same. I’m not sure I was ever that enamored with the Smith offense. Seemed like (while at OSU) it relied on executing about 20 perfect plays in a row. All about 4-5 yards. Mess up on one and the odds of getting any points dropped dramatically.
I know when we hired him, most Husky fans were excited to see him move on. His best year statistically in Seattle was 2016, the year they made the playoff. That was the year they hired Tedford as on “offensive consultant” or something. The sentiment from a bunch of Husky fans I know was that the good numbers that year were more Tedford than Smith. They dropped off again when Tedford left for Fresno State the following year.
Pulled some stats on the Washington Offense:
2014 QB C Miles – 17 TD, 4 INT; Total offense 388 yds/game & 29.7 ppg
2015 QB J Browning FR – 16 TD, 10 INT; Total offense 403 yds/gm & 32.0 ppg
2016 QB J Browning SO – 43TD, 9 INT; Total offence 457 yds/gm & 41.7 ppg (Year Tedford was “Offensive Consultant”)
2017 QB J Browning JR – 19 TD, 5 INT; Total Offense 405 yds/gm & 36.2 ppg
2018 Hired by OSU
The offense when Smith was around had explosive plays. Never an elite QB but somehow WR got open. I remember the game against Ohio State and some of the big plays the Beavs had. Objectively, I’d take the offense from when Smith was around. Not saying he needs to be the OC. I think a big part was the run game Coach M implemented. You could pretty much count on the run game being consistently good each game even against bigger teams.
Agree coach. The more plays a drive takes, the greater the chance for a negative play, penalty or turnover. You have you to have explosive plays – 20-30 yard gains. Also amazing how good to great players make a good coach.
I’d rather have Ryan Grubb…….
Coincidentally, the S&C coach at Purdue when JMS was there was Ryan Grubbs. He’s now on the staff of the Houston Texans.
He was an assistant S&C coach at Purdue at the time.
I get what your thinking here Nice, but I think my opposition (besides the way he shit on us on the way out) is going for it on fourth down at stupid times. We’re going to need our future teams to have excellent execution and in-game momentum – neither of which we had at all this year.
totally, I get all of that and don’t like Smith as a human either.
But his experience as an OC and HC make him instantly one of the most qualified attainable OC’s out there.
He knows OSU and he had some pretty good success with a run first offense at OSU behind Coach M’s OL.
Shephard can actually recruit the personnel required to have a strong passing game, which Smith/Lindgren could never do, so the two together could make a well rounded tandem.
Really doubt it will ever happen, but i wouldn’t be opposed to it
Smith has some major image rehabilitation ahead of him before he can come back.
I’d guess there will be a P4 program out there that will hire him as an OC in the upcoming year.
I can respect that position, and I bet that, had this firing happened sooner, he could have been a much more serious candidate thanks to the crowd that said, “Well, it happened with Riley, let’s try it again.”
As a lot of others have said here, I would love to see Coach M back and developing our run game/offensive line. We were pretty unstoppable with him.
I think we’ll likely see fresh new faces for the most part, but it’s interesting to think about.
Shep already is bringing over a bama guy to be OC I thought I read somewhere
No. Can’t see that working at all for anyone….
Smith should be done at OSU…he can come back some day for the Fiesta Bowl team reunions and leave it at that.
He should be turned around at the bridge.
I hope Shephard brings anyone he wants onto his team even if their pedigree or experience may not be a long list. I want new tires and not retreads. I want a young hungry leader who surrounds himself with people he can work with, and trust, pls I hope that Barnes and the old gang leave Shephard alone and let him run with it. I hope Shephard can build something special that will last a while. I willing to sit back, wait and see. It is just to bad all this didn’t happen when the Smith left… but it be happening now!
When it comes to “experienced” coordinators, are we thinking any ex-head coaches, well-known coordinators, or other names we like or have heard about – let’s get the rumor and speculation going because MBB is garbage…or other sports to talk about?
First person Coach Shephard has followed on social media since becoming the Beaver head coach is Tristan Ti’a
Good news there. Is Murphy going to try and get playing time at a small college?
Murphy’s best bet may actually be to be humble, try to develop new habits and skills under Shepard even if he’s a backup, then see if he can catch on an NFL team as a FA. Can’t really see him transferring, blowing up with a great season, and being picked very high in the draft…
Rumors of a qb following Shepard from
Bama. So that leaves Ti’a and the bama kid as the top two on the depth chart. Very unlikely Murphy plays anyone down for the Beavs.
An Alabama recruit following him, or a QB on the roster? On roster are:
Austin Mack, R-SO, 6′-6″, 235 lbs, Loomis CA
Keelon Russel,FR, 6’3″, 194 lbs, Duncanville TX
John Gazzaniga, FR, 6’7″ 252 Lbs, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif.
Noticed they have 4 PK on roster, 3 punters….
https://rolltide.com/sports/football/roster?sort=position
What you’re looking for is a long snapper
Mack
wow, Kilani Sitaki is setting himself up to be one of the highest paid college coaches out there.
Penn State was close to getting him for $11.5M per season(for 6 years!) and now BYU is shaking down the church to come up with the funds to beat that offer.
They are probably looking for divine intervention from Joseph Smith.
“Shaking down the church”
There’s a song in that….thank you!
I’m sure the church can afford it, he’ll, they’re buying up ag lands in the Columbia Basin in Washington and Oregon, Australia….
I feel like BYU will get the better of this deal if he goes to Penn State. If he’s a good mormon, he’s going to give 10% of his pay to the church.
I can’t see a Franklin for Sitaki being more than a lateral move for Penn State at best.
I’m not sure I see what he is doing at BYU being replicated at Penn St.
BYU is a unique beast.
BYU has been pumping the money into the MBB program. They can come up with it.
Similar to Smith at OSU.
I’d give anything to see him wearing the garments on the sideline
“10 Oregon State players JaMarcus Shephard should try to win over” – Ryan Clark, OLive
Jojo Johnson, DL
Aiden Sullivan, LB
Dexter Foster, LB
Takari Hickle, OLB
Trey Glasper, CB
David Wells Jr., WR
Taz Reddicks, WR
Tristan Ti’a, QB
Cornell Hatcher Jr., RB
Salahadin Allah, RB”
How about;
WR Freauff?
AJ Windsor, Punter?
Or in other words, a list of the guys definitely looking at NIL offers already…
I could see the Ducks renting Winsor. He could be very effective with blocking, coverage, tackling….
Will Stein is the new HC at Kentucky! Wonder if JS is on the horn to Eugene.
Funny if true. I saw an article speculating that Chip Kelly might be the next HC there…seemed silly given his alleged dislike of recruiting….
“Kentucky tapped the former Trinity High School and Louisville quarterback to replace Mark Stoops, whose firing was announced Monday after 13 seasons at the helm.
Stein is the right replacement for the Wildcats considering his father, Matt, was a walk-on at UK who played from 1982-84. The family had season tickets to Kentucky football games, and Stein grew up wanting to follow in his dad’s footsteps and play in Lexington.
….
UK athletics director Mitch Barnhart just hired the anti-Lane Kiffin, who won’t be steady looking for the next opportunity upon his arrival on campus. Having an authentic and genuine love for the university is a bonus trait in a new head coach…”
Mitch!
Is Lane Kiffen the most deplorable person in athletics (who hasn’t committed a crime)?
Like that gymnastics doctor or OJ are worse… but, a different kind of worse.
He alleges fans tried to run him off the road on way out of town to airport.
How is he worse than any other mercenary college football profiteer, other than you know, picking and eating boogers on tv?
None of these programs who overpay coaches and expect 1-2 loss seasons and regular playoff appearances should expect any loyalty. Unrealistic expectations, little to no patience…
Amidst this constant turnover, I think Ohio State and Oregon are most likely to win championships with coaching stability, talent evaluation, and $23-30M rosters.
Good clip of Shepards first team meeting talking about acting like a champion in whatever you do. We better see much better discipline on and off the field next year.
That’s a very attainable goal
The change is underway…
“OSU running backs coach Ray Pickering and secondaries coach AJ Cooper both confirmed their departures Monday night. Shephard met with current assistant coaches Monday and informed them whether or not they would be retained on his staff, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions.
While the full picture isn’t yet clear, a source said to expect sweeping change in Corvallis. Shephard is expected to retain few, if any current assistants as he builds out his 2026 staff. Among those also not retained is co-defensive coordinator Rod Chance, according to a source.”
…
Three-star cornerback Cammeron Purnell announced his decommitment from the Beavers on Monday night. Purnell is the No. 168 athlete and No. 198 player in California according to 247Sports’ composite rankings. He had been committed to the Beavers since June, but received an offer from Arizona State in early November.”
I say clean house, no more nepotism, no more residue of past staffs. Barnes needs to give him the office keys and stay the heck out of the way, at least for a 6 month window to rebuild his new locker-room style.
I would make exceptions for support staff who do off the field support. A guy like Serna who doesn’t do any on field stuff.
Info on QB who apparently may follow Shepard to Corvallis, former 4* UW commit who transferred to Alabama:
https://247sports.com/player/austin-mack-46114574/
I’ll be interested to see if Gutridge is kept on the roster . . . and also if he wants to be. I don’t trust the (thankfully past) coaches’ ability to evaluate, and I sure would like to have seen him in a game. How could there not have been a time in this past ridiculous season when he might have had a moment to help the team?
I don’t understand why people down-voted my comment. Do you really think this team would be any better than .500 vs a good HS team? There is no way.
Yes, this team would be better than .500 against a good high school team. It is ridiculous to claim otherwise. It is dumber than when people try to claim the best college team can beat the worst NFL team. Oregon State was a very bad FBS team, a very bad FBS team beats every high school team in the nation by 50. It wouldn’t be close.
I doubt it and would love to see it. OSU should put something like this together…now that would sell tickets.
No college would even consider this. The public backlash would be disastrous. The only way this would get any traction is if it was a flag football game.
You can doubt whatever you want, it’s still silly, OSU would smoke every high school in the nation. Every FBS school would.
You’ve spent too much time at elevation, you need to get some oxygen, stat
Most every player on the beavs roster, even as poorly as they have played, was still the best player on their hs squad.
The best hs team will be lucky to have 2 or 3 NCAA football players total.
This is quite possibly the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on here.
Less than 2% of high school athletes play at the Division I level, and that’s just D1 sports in general. About half of the Oregon State roster was recruited when they were a Power-5 Program or transferred from other Power-5 Programs, so they are an even more elite level of D1 athlete. They would absolutely smoke IMG Academy or any of those HS football factories.
Yeah anyone who thinks this doesn’t understand football. The best high schools get like what? 6 maybe 7 guys on FBS teams. And then less than half of them are likely to contribute in their first year. My brother was a stud in high school. Went to play on a high level Division 3 team and got beat up horribly in his first year. Better strength and conditioning. Spend more time invested in football. I mean we all saw what Oregon State did to a pretty good FCS team.
Coach JaMarcus’s presser is pretty boring so far. Lots of the same stuff we heard when Bray came on board. It’s all hot air until he hires his staff and hits the recruiting trail to start building a team. Wish him the best…
Local media aren’t going to make it interesting, and these things are pretty standard and underwhelming.
If he upsets Texas Tech next September 12 at Reser, the presser might be interesting….
Is there any way Barnes could look more bored? more detached?
He actually didn’t. And it was hilarious how his demeanor soured when Bill Oram started asking his questions. You could see Barnes scowl and at one point shake his head in disgust.
Has he announced he’s bringing back Jamie Christian to coach Special Teams yet?
I don’t know how that guy will ever get a job again. I also don’t know how he appeared competent at his other jobs. What was different about this one? He should write a tell all book.
None of them are very exciting. But I loved the demeanor and energy of coach Shephard. Shows a fire we haven’t really had. Just listen to his tone and the belief in his voice. Lots of energy and excitement. Then go back and watch Smiths when we was hired at OSU and also MSU. Not even close to the same personality. Quite refreshing in my opinion.
I’m interested in his recruiting reach; his claim of a nation wide circle of coaches who will send SA’s will be easy to verify after a couple years.
I thought it was interesting what he talked about outside of the football field. He seems personable and like a good human. I would like to see alumni on the sidelines and interacting with the current players.
Coach Shepard brings a ton of energy and confidence. First time hearing him talk, I like the person and what I heard a lot. Found myself actually believing that college football is more than just NIL $ at this point. Excited to buy tickets and donate when I can.
Cringe worthy Moments:
Mike Parker – calling the Jamarcus hire one of the greatest moments in the history of Oregon State football….
Mike Parker – randomly reminding Jamarcus that he (Jamarcus) knows how intimidating Reser is because the Huskies almost lost 2 year ago…
Scott Barnes reading a letter to the crowd he received from Jamarcus’s middle school teacher. This, right after Murthy, in her remarks, referenced an article Canzano wrote about the same middle school teacher. It all felt a little over the top by the end of it.
You left out this gem of a quote…….
“High output, low ego”
Yes, Jamarcus Shephard really said that. It sent me into a polar vortex PTSD episode, so im out.
They all say that. Standard intro press conference bingo square
Read the top 10 quotes in OLive….definitely reads more animated, angeessive, and ambitious than most pressers!
I’m looking forward to him being the HC.
BYU apparently sweetened Sitakes deal and he’s staying put.
Sucks to be Penn State. Maybe theyll end up with Smith
That job opening is getting a lot of people raises.
lifetime supply of free crumble cookies?
Those ‘cookies’ are good awful, explains a lot
If true, Penn State really screwed this up. Fired a really good coach and expected a huge upgrade hire. Not going to happen now as its late in the game. Hard to see a top tier coach moving now. While Sitake is a great coach, he’s a great coach at BYU. He’s LDS and a perfect fit for them.
He’ll regret it when he gets to Vegas and has to face The Shepard and his flock of Beavers….
t-shirt idea??
Watched a replay of the press conference.
First test of his head coaching career – Passed. No obvious red flags, no over promising results. A players coach.
Second test – Hiring of staff. Said he had a DC lined up.
I liked:
He started on D before moving to offense.
The emphasis on both the O and D lines – he’s “going to spend time there.” That’s where they can make the difference with NIL too.
His tie. OSU should have those in the book store with the jerseys and such…
His thoughts on coaching succession and continuity – recognizing that if you’re successful you’re going to have people move on. Good mindset.
The fact that the Alabama players were excited for him getting this opportunity.
The notion that Brandin Cooks could be a position coach…hard worker, integrity, great OSU rep…despite my general disdain for hiring former Beavers, Cooks is one I definitely would be happy to see on the sidelines given his production at OSU, and his time under Sean Payton and Sean McVay offenses.
Bringing back Steven Jackson, the Rodgers brothers on the sidelines…high performers…should be inspiring for players.
He going to outwork people. That’s necessary.
References to Mike Leach, Jeff Brohm, Kalen DeBoer
Ball dominance. Details. Explosives.
Didn’t like the rambling way he responded to the question related to the role and value of a GM – “we are set up perfectly to compete in this NIL world” – What? How?!? or the way he tried to describe his vision for the offense.
The reference to Willie Taggert.
His description of the role of analytics. I don’t think sampling plays from all of college football (which I assume he is doing) applies to his team which has a much smaller sample size.
Barnes referring to OSU Football as a “historic, historic program….” The 28 year losing streak is the only historic aspect of OSU football.
The player that broke down and cried in his offense – who was it? Malik Murphy?!? Ha!
It’s a shame Oregon will lose both coordinators before the season is over.
They are both coaching as long as Oregon is still playing. Hopefully just one more game but the bracket is setting up very nicely for them unfortunately.
Admittedly, UO is rolling. They have a DC in waiting….multiple QBs in the NFL, an alleged $30M roster…won the B10 in their first year in the conference, in the playoffs again this year…avoiding key injuries it seems…
I really think their financial support and coaching stability are likely to get them a championship soon, this year or within 3 years. If they run into Indiana’s or Ohio State’s D they will probably not win a championship this year…
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2025/12/02/colorado-athletics-budget-deficit-deion-sanders-colorado-football-contract-nil/87560914007/
Deion got a raise went 3-9, also deficit could be bigger
I’m sure he kept 9 receipts…snake oil salesman…I’m laughing at UC (who lowered academic standards after upon hiring him)….
As bad as OSU was, they didn’t have UC’s resources and salaries. ANY coach with Sanders’ price:performance ratio would have been fired after this season…UC keeps digging.
His act is wearing thin with their fans…
Getting alums from the football team back to Reser really hasn’t been a problem, the last two coaching staffs were stocked with them. Still, for someone from outside the program to encourage them to get involved, particularly those with NFL careers – absolutely.
For all the crud Oregon State gets – the only thing holding a player back from making it to the NFL from Corvallis is themselves.
I think Shepherd will do well. I think he is a coach players will want to play hard for. I truly think it might have been the best non-P4 hire, and may turn out to be one of the best period.
Would Cooks really want to retire and immediately step into a WR coaching role? If yes, he’s seems like the type of guy who could really work a livimg room and kill at recruiting.
Imagine having Shephard and Cooks to close rather than Smith and Lindgren
Never did a human being look more awkward than Smith taking a photo with a recruit.
Maybe with his in laws living in Albany that could be a draw since he’s been away for so long. Does have a house in Portland so maybe???
He’d immediately be the best receiver on the practice field and probably still the fastest….
What he could bring after working with Drew Brees/Payton, Brady, McVay…
Crazy, I didnt realize it was already signing day.
Beavs pick up a surprise signing. Edge Rusher Caleb Metzner who was previously cimmitted to South Alabama(Not regular Bama, but apparently they were looking at him too)
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996205934692155435?t=bqSfO_CngqlnHFo70HIvDQ&s=19
In talking about recruiting yesterday, JMS said he would heavily rely on relationships his assistant coaches had already formed.
From Caleb Metzner’s Twitter: “(Alabama) Outside Linebackers Coach Christian Robinson has been pursuing Metzner non-stop”
I wonder if that means Christian Robinson will be announced as an assistant coach soon…
I’ll take it! Thanks for the updates. Really curious who transfers in/out since those can be instant impact guys. I’m still listening through the press conference and starting at the 40 minute mark where JMS talks about surrounding yourself with the type of people you want to be/become you can tell if he doesn’t have good xs and os, he will be a positive person for guys to be around no matter what he ends up doing in life. He get’s it.
Am I reading his stats right?
111 tackles, 24.5 sacks, 274 rushing yards, 1008 receiving yards, 17 TDs?
“Metzner had 24.5 sacks his senior year, leading the state of Alabama and drawing some recruiting attention from the Crimson Tide.”
Prospective OSU football general manager Eron Hodges — still serving as assistant director of player personnel at Alabama — celebrated Metzner’s signing on social media Wednesday morning.
“He’s Special!!!,” Hodges wrote in a post on X. “Elite Player and Blind Faith!!! @MetznerCaleb will be a legend!”
Kai Wheaton has signed
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996241203600502998?t=D8fNgMBATejVV6f3rFezDw&s=19
Adel Dorr is signed.
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996262014050844923?t=d-ey4LIB_XRrUzt-yKUoXg&s=19
Jeremiah Brown has signed.
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996267520953929800?t=8rT0QFWJM5Bx-cgcRq4jng&s=19
Long Johnson has signed…
Curious to learn who the new ST coach is, and how he’ll turn Beavers ST from an incredible liability to a positive unit that flips the field and scores with regularity and reliability.
Wow, that’s a tall order. How about starting with clean long snaps?
Lance McGee recently decommitted from OSU but is saying today that he plans to sign with OSU now that Shephard is here.
Officially signed now.
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996299925190226098?t=NRmo6lyAFg5OksxZmygOMg&s=19
Our signing class so far is much better than Penn States!
How about Sam Houston State? Tulsa?
“…..Franklin has been hired at Virginia Tech and has brought the Hokies into the top 25 in recruiting rankings for the 2026 cycle. Franklin has flipped two Penn State commits to Virginia Tech on signing day alone.
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Per 247Sports Composite Rankings, Penn State is ranked 150th in the 2026 recruiting class, with two players signed to the class. That’s behind programs like South Dakota State, McNeese, UAB and Columbia, among others.
The Nittany Lions class is ranked last in the Big Ten, with Nebraska the next closest in-conference team ranked at No. 111. They began the day with four commitments, with just two of the players signing.”
Players mostly commit to coaches, not schools….
And Nebraska extended their coach…..
With the coaching changes happening around signing day and effecting big money playoff games, I wonder if ESPN, the SEC, and Big 10 will propose changing some of the dates for signing day and the transfer portal.
BSU apparently on track for their highest ever composite rated class, #51 nationally. One 4* WR….
Beats Peterson’s and Harsin’s highest rated classes by a bit….
Makes sense, they upgraded conference wise.
The Beavs did not, however
I don’t know if they upgraded so much as they avoided a big downgrade
Matt Boyd selected to play for team USA in the World Baseball Classic. Made the announcement on a podcast wearing a beaver hat
Jameson Powell signed
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996354686069477719?t=Vw1nXD_iMXuiOfQCaUuYVQ&s=19
Was an Ole Miss commir till Kiffen left
4*(?) from Sacramento CA…nice surprise.
3* now that he committed to Oregon State…as expected.
Nice, Inoke Brekterfield will be the new DC
Really?! What coaching experience does he have?
A lot. Wisconsin, Washington, Baylor.
*copy and paste from Wiki
2006 Oregon State (volunteer)
2007–2008 Oregon State (GA)
2009 Weber State (DL)
2010 Montana (DL)
2011 UCLA (DL)
2012–2014 Pittsburgh (DT)
2015–2020 Wisconsin (DL)
2021 Vanderbilt (DT)
2022–2023 Washington (DL)
2024–present Baylor (DL)
I said DC but it should read DLine coach
Sorry about that
He should be announcing the DC soon if he’s got his DL hired.
“Oregon State is expected to hire Baylor defensive line coach Inoke Breckterfield as its new defensive line coach, per Matt Zenitz of CBS Sports.
The Bears had multiple seniors along the defensive line, but were toward the bottom of the Big 12 in every category, allowing 32.6 points per game, 197.2 rushing yards per game, 194.9 passing yards per game and an opponent third-down conversion rate of 41%. Baylor was dead last in the conference in fumbles recovered (2) and sacks (12).
Before Baylor, Breckterfield spent two years at Washington, one season at Vanderbilt and six seasons at Wisconsin.
A native of Kaneohe, Hawaii, Breckterfield served as Aranda’s defensive line coach during the 2015 season at Wisconsin, Aranda’s last year leading the Badger defense, which ranked first in scoring defense and second in total defense. Breckterfield spent six seasons (2015-20) at Wisconsin. “
James Watkins flips from OSU to WSU.
Pretty sure he decommitted like six days ago.
I don’t know bc I just read about it.
Dude bugged, No idea if we tried to keep him, WRs are a dime a dozen. Accesessory pieces are just nice.
Agree. Need some stud lineman on both sides and of course a stud QB.
He’s gonna regret that when he faces the Shepard and his flock of Beavers…
Another WR signed, Jesse Legree from Baltimore, MD.
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996395438552089077?t=kQcFHc7Co8puQdDJ3vVHHw&s=19
Wow, the Shepard does have an extensive geographic reach!
Shephard’s flock is nationwide.
Cynai Thomas has signed
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996400975318483121?t=gNpTwrGa3jyxy-QeKxL7xA&s=19
I was afraid he might decide to go elsewhere so this is great news.
Fighting Stinkles lead Vermont at halftime 42-24. Can they end their five-game losing streak, or will they fall apart as they did against Iona?
Do we care?
I know morale is low for us Beav fans, but I’m a high loyalty person and I can’t turn off my fandom. They looked good last night and I think they’ll have some decent wins. I also understand the Charlie Brown kickoff trauma we’ve experienced. Part of the fun!
Unless I go to a game, i’m not really interested, knowing where we’ll eventually end up.
I’m more interested in who might replace him.
I do have tickets to six games, so I will go. But expectations aren’t high.
As for names, I’ve always liked Gerlufsen. But I also like Takayo Siddle’s teams.
Any game that OSU men’s basketball wins this month is a Christmas miracle. Stinkle is the worst.
And they play well for the entire game, walking away with an 80-58 win. Miracles do happen!
A few recruiting tidbits. Avg rating of players committed this year is higher than last year for prep commits.
Looking back at last years class, specifically the transfers and there’s a lot of names I don’t recall being impact players this year. Granted I didn’t watch games like I usually do.
When is the next important date for bringing in better talent, is it January 2nd when the portal opens (and players already miraculously have deals in place)?
Early signing day is technically Dec 3-5, so there are 2 more days for HS signees. And the Juco window doesn’t close
and I think we typically see JUCO signing during the period between signing day and the transfer window. Shephard said he would definitely be hitting the JUCO ranks so we might see some of that activity before transfers roll out and in.
What is the likely scale and scope of roster turnover given the recruiting windows left? I can’t imagine more than 10-20 players have attractive transfer potential (?), with 20 being generous.
Most likely a Colorado-Deion-esque overhaul, ‘say fellas, you’re not likely to make the roster so may want to start exploring your portal options sooner rather than later’
Big difference in most 4 and 5 star recruits versus 3 star. Physically mostly look like men already where the 3 stars look like high school kids who need to hit the weight room. I think that’s why very few three star kids see the field there freshman and even sophmore years.
A couple of these recruits look so thin…don’t look like DI football players….
Yeah, thats what prompted my comment.
Listening Barnes?
“Count Oregon State coach Scott Rueck among those not interested in continuing the rivalry series with Oregon.
“If it were up to me,” said Rueck, “we wouldn’t be playing this game. Not yet.”
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This is a long-held view of Rueck’s since the Pac-12 imploded, he said.
“I have too much respect for the rivalry to play it in this current condition,” Rueck said. “I’d give us a few more years to get our bearings before I would bring this back, and that’s in respect to everyone involved, actually.”
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/12/scott-rueck-on-rivalry-game-with-oregon-if-it-were-up-to-me-we-wouldnt-be-playing-this-game.html
If we don’t sign at least five long-snappers, this recruiting class is a failure. We could be Long-Snapper U.
Good long snapper can have a long and lucrative NFL career
So Ducks sign highly rated QB with last name “Beaver.”
Didn’t someone in OAC have a LB with that last name a few years back?
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4432660/anthony-beavers-jr
He should have been a Beav
Dan Rowe, defensive quality control from Louisville is going to be on Shephard’s staff in some capacity. Footballscoop had this info.
“Dan Rowe begins his second with the University of Louisville as a quality control coach, focusing on the secondary.
He joined the Cards after one season at Western Kentucky as a defensive analyst in 2023. He also spent four seasons with Jeff Brohm at Purdue as a defensive analyst from 2017-2022.
Rowe came to the Boilermakers from Washington State, where he spent the 2016 season as a defensive graduate assistant.
Before his lone season at Washington State, Rowe spent the 2014 and 2015 seasons as a defensive graduate assistant at Western Kentucky under current Brohm.”
Eron Hodges( new GM) sure likes to tease upcoming news.
Latest post seems to indicate some news will drop soon.
https://x.com/EronHodges/status/1996668392212697583?t=N5Qi6XPUeO5nUlLQU09jNw&s=19
Smart! Try and build some excitement around the program.
What?!? Engagement?!? WTF?!?
Probably the long awaited Jensen Huang Student-Athlete endowment with appurtenant academic standards and some sort of proprietary AI swag (apps) for Beaver S-As , A-I analysis and graphical applications services for all sports, including Olympic sports, sports equipment and facilities analysis, and enhanced graphics at Beaver sport events, such as larger-than-life holographic replays – rotated – so we can all groan aloud at the obvious referee gaffes and dance or fist bump with athletes following big plays and scores….
Probably…maybe…maybe not.
New 26 commitment.
https://x.com/T_Aaitui50/status/1996672223860625782?t=6WLULVY3Uwk_TzlRWB5pOA&s=19
Thanks!
6’4″, 270, OL/DL
https://www.hudl.com/profile/17806386/Tanu-Aaitui/highlights
Don’t see much in the way of recruiting interests for him from other teams. Seems to be relatively unknown.
Looks like he’ll be a PWO
Are there PWOs anymore with the roster caps or are all walk on PWOs now? Did they change the rule on how many players can start fall camp?
Don’t know, just saw one of the recruiting sites(Sedge) mention he was PWO in a tweet
Meluvee Longtime has signed…
So fickle, has signed for so many programs….one after the other….
Yeah, but Longtime coming.
Missed opportunity for a Schlongtime joke.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I rather liked what I heard in Canzano’s interview of JMS. It turns out he grew up in a tough situation where he didn’t have things that other children did and it pushed him to be a competitor. He proudly claims that he was captain in every team he was a part of, and in general – he sounded like an approachable, passionate coach that wants to build “America’s team”. Even though this interview was conducted by the Bald One, I feel that he might surprise people.
His ability to work with what he has while being positive and energetic is important for the task in front of him at Oregon State. It doesn’t guarantee success, but it is important.
He has the energy and attitude to make even a Canzano show tolerable….
Exxxactly. He sounded like a human rather than pre-written coach speak. Also, I enjoyed hearing him mention specifically that his lack of resources helped him learn how to take what he DOES have and use them to win.
You’re right in saying it my not lead to success, but the kind of young men he’ll bring into the fold will be smart and tough, which may benefit the next coach if he ends up not working out over 5 years.
Another wr commit
https://x.com/JaydenPadgett/status/1996765296561115449?t=KZCYPkc1rmP4tLJQjVShVg&s=19
Officially signed
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1996772700010979652?t=rkncY4jRAeSIwi3KKigpUg&s=19
I don’t understand this one. I guess he has height so see if he can become something.
Beaver Raid?
Run and Beaver?!?
WRs all over the place…
Maybe going to turn him into a defensive end as a senior like Obum Guachum.
Is there an offensive player for Bama that might be looking for a new opportunity and have a connection to Folsom?
Hmm…
Hmm…
https://rolltide.com/sports/football/roster/austin-mack/13811
Won’t be any shortage of WRs in the Shephard era.
Let’s just hope we find a new QB so all these WRs aren’t just standing there as balls fly over their heads, sail behind them or are bouncing to them like this year.
I’d be happy if he brought in an entire new group of wide recievers. Trent Walker has been the only productive wr for 2 years…not ideal. Maybe a few of them could actually be effective punt returners or even block downfield.
Or, you know, get open, catch a pass or four…
I maintain hope for Frehauf, a kid that’s been through that much adversity should really respond to Shepard…who wants in-state kids to have a role…
Same but some hopefully in the portal.
Clemons was supposed to be a savior, and maybe mostly due to injury, has rarely seen the field. No deep threats, no guys with good hands, is it bad recruiting or bad coaching? Based on every other shit metric gotta I’m leaning toward the outgoing coaching.
Just about all of the OSU wide receivers of the last decade or two have had at least one fatal flaw; either too small, too slow or can’t catch well enough. Just look at the current crop: Walker is the best of the bunch and his history is that of too many drops and or fumbles after the catch. That’s like being the best player on the ‘62 Mets or the ‘25 Rockies.
Wells jr seemed like he was playing well
OSU has probably a 1 in 100 chance of beating Texas Tech and their $$$ roster 9.12.26, but The Shepard may have me there in support…
Yeah, won’t know much by then and are likely to get the doors blown off, but I was at Reser the last two years, I’ll be there again…I hope other folks will give JMS a shot to build something and support that effort.
Big Dave Uiagalele still follows the Beavs and has praise for their recent hires.
But the best part is his comment about a “curtain donor”
https://x.com/i/status/1996823281010463096
Is that synonymous with anonymous donor? How much do we trust Big Dave…..
If you don’t know who the curtain donor is, you must be blinds….
what’s funny is it’s not a fat finger, since u isn’t close to e.
His big finger drapes all over the keyboard
Okay dad that’s enough internet for you today
NVIDIA time!
I’m sooooo very glad we didn’t hire the Sac State coach like so many people were talking about and wanting. Hes leaving the HC position to be the OC for Sanders. He’s had like 8 jobs in 10 years or something crazy. He wouldn’t have been here for 2 years. Barnes and the committee were smart and barely gave him a look as I think they must have seen his fake and shady personality.
Only reason this makes sense is if he knows that Sanders is stepping away in a year due to health and he takes over.
P4 OC vs FCS HC
So many reasons why such a move makes sense. Probably a massive pay raise and if successful he will be in line for a P4 HC job.
That’s a rough look. Didn’t understand the interest there anyway, one year as HC, and aside from a year at Texas no big program experience. Seems built in the same BS Deion salesman mold. Perfect fit I guess
They can share cowboy hats!
I never thought much of the Sac St. coaches, but I have been a big fan of the athletic dept administrators.
Matt Campbell to Penn State?
Penn State may have lucked into a good coach.
Yeah, It’ll be interesting to see what he can do with better players. Pretty good coach.
“You know what happens when you come to Nevada? You go get $1.4 million to go to Oregon if you develop the right way.”
Nevada football coach Jeff Choate explains his sales pitch to the players the Wolf Pack recruits.
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LOL, what the hell is going on in college sports? “Student athletes,” LMAO
Which player was that? OL?
On a side note, I sold one gold coin today and 10oz of silver…seems a good time to thin since I bought these 15 years ago. Anyone buying or selling?
Jeez, you sold half of your total assets!
ObjCritic posted this, apparently from an article, earlier in this thread about the new defensive line coach Breckterfield. It’s about the line he coached this past year:
The Bears had multiple seniors along the defensive line, but were toward the bottom of the Big 12 in every category, allowing 32.6 points per game, 197.2 rushing yards per game, 194.9 passing yards per game and an opponent third-down conversion rate of 41%. Baylor was dead last in the conference in fumbles recovered (2) and sacks (12).
So he face-planted this past season, and now he’s one of the most crucial Beaver coaches. But, oh yeah, he does have an OSU connection.
From this perspective, this sounds like a frighteningly Bray-like hire.
I sure want Shephard to succeed and was on his bandwagon very early, but . . . wha . . . ? What am I missing here?
I’ll give JMS some space on this one.
Breckterfield hasn’t had any connection with OSU in 20 years. Jamarcus worked with him at UW when he coached DL for the team that made it all the way to the title game. Breckterfield has been highly respected fora long time. ObjCritic’s post is the first negative review I’ve heard of him. He’s only been at Baylor for two years. Sometimes you just don’t have the horses. The under performing Seniors referenced would have been guys that were recruited and developed before he got there. A starting D1 DL is rarely stocked with Freshman if any.
Thank you, MB, for your reply. Informative and calmly delivered. I’m beginning to think about stepping away from the ledge now . . .
Yeah, I shared that but didn’t mean to put much stock in that brief period without additional context (injuries? Transfers out? Did they have a bad offense that consistently put the D in poor positions?). And there was more career background info that followed that excerpt.
And School sites often correlate good team or unit performance with individual coaches in ways that are really a stretch…
Breckterfield was the college DL coach for Aaron Donald and TJ Watt (maybe JJ too?) If he developed 2 of the top NFL DLs of the past decade, he’s more than good enough for us. I’m just not sure how we are paying him. OSU does not have Baylor $$.
Bama back up qb heading to portal
Austin Mack? -> Oregon State.
That’s been the poorly held secret for a few days. I think that’s also why we got those 2 HS kids from the same school
Where was this reported? I haven’t seem anything saying he plans to enter and I’d be shocked if he did and absolutely shocked if he gave up the money and opportunity to be a Power 4 QB and came to OSU. Good chance he starts for Alabama next year. I think he did follow Deboer to Alabama from UW so she knows Shephard I guess.
They have a guy rated a 100 from Duncanville on the roster. Why don’t think Austin beats him out? I didn’t watch bama much. who was getting backup snaps if they had a big lead?
I think a qb came to osu last year from a power 4 team. Let’s hope it works out better this time around.
And here we go…
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47212583/georgia-seeks-390k-de-damon-wilson-transfer-damages
Thanks for posting, interesting reading. Paid $30k and wanting $390k damages, should be an argument worth following.
As ever, “billable hours” will come out on top!
I guess I’m dumb, the whole liquidated damages vs penalty aspect is over my head. If I have a lease and want to bounce 1 month in, I’m still responsible to pay the remaining amount. They wrote a lease on his purported talent and he decides to bounce…?
I guess they’ll just need to write in a buyout clause to these contracts.
Now that I think about it, how do they enforce NFL contracts, with the signing bonus as the damage?
Again, these are supposedly student athletes. Not even sure why they have to go to class at all. Maybe so they can understand liquidated damages vs penalty?
In the case of a lease, the landlord has to clean and advertise for a new tenant. If they fill the space within a couple months, you technically are not liable for the remainder of your lease from that point, since the actual damages have now been mitigated. This is assuming the complex has no vacancies.
So if UGA can prove they aren’t able to fill the position vacated by a player, they have a case.
Yup, may also have a case if they can show that counting on Wilson fulfilling his contractual obligations caused them to miss out on another player.
ie: Landlord lost out on a back up tenant who found something else while waiting.
Billable hours wins again!
Based on my multiple years negotiating contracts such as interstate compacts, private sector agreements, multi state collaboratives, etc, I seriously doubt that Georgia has little legal standing of the following excerpt from the article is accurate.
When the article suggests, Wilson enter into arbitration to settle a clause in his former contract that serves effectively as a buyout fee for exiting his deal early. Wilson.” The comment “serves effectively as a buyout…….”. This suggests to me the provision in the contract might be somewhat ambiguous. Although I have no way of knowing bc I haven’t read the contract, but if that comment is any indication, Georgia will have a difficult challenge in arbitration.
A cardinal rule in contract law and that is: it is incumbent upon the party writing and issuing the contract to be very clear in in their contract provision’s intent. When that becomes a question in a legal dispute, the decision usually does not favor the respondent.
Regardless, I think it will be very challenging for Georgia to prove damages of $390k in damages since Wilson was only paid $30K. However, what this case will do is create a legal precedent as indicated in the article that the NIL needs a legal overhaul that protects the players and the collectives.
Imposing buyout clauses to protect the university and the collective, is certainly a measure that could bring some stability to the current wild west landscape, but it’s just the beginnings of necessary changes to college athletics.
I’ll be very interested in the outcome of the arbitration.
BASEBALL
Big zero up with a piece from a Q&A last month with Miiiiiitch.
Talks team speed with no direct mention of analytics, Miiiiitch says,
“We’re trying to get better about how to communicate and push guys to achieve new levels of their game, but also new levels of life development, …and I think us coaches have a wonderful time growing with how we go about our jobs each and every day too.”
Says “we aren’t moving our fences to juice statistics”……is this aimed at any particular team?
Good laughs from USAToday article on audio of a Penn State meeting:
“Just when you thought the Penn State coaching search couldn’t take any more twists and turns… It’s gone from getting trumped by the Crumbl Cookie guy to allegedly calling people in Oregon “weirdos.”
…
On Thursday night, audio leaked on “Dead Air Sports” of an alleged meeting between Penn State athletic director Pat Kraft and Nittany Lions players. The video with the audio recording was edited from a longer conversation.
Here are some other highlights from the leaked audio
? “I think Oregon are frauds. I think they’re not tough. That’s our edge, our toughness.”
? Player: “To be very frank with you, I think the biggest reason why players do not want to come here is we’re in the middle of nowhere, honestly.”
Leader: “Oh, I agree. Our fans, our people don’t understand. It’s a challenge. ‘What am I going to (expletive) do?’ Oregon? Have you all been to Oregon? Ain’t (expletive) going on, it’s a bunch of (expletive) weirdos.”
? “Ohio State is Ohio State. But (expletive) A, it’s not like they’re lightyears better than us, talented-wise. Just can’t be able to get over the (expletive) hump! Michigan (expletive) stinks. (Expletive) joke. Cheating their balls off. That’s real by the way what they did. Oregon? Their (expletive) quarterback was shaking in overtime. But we have to win those (expletive) games.”
Can I tell you a story about NIL? This is one of the highest-paid rosters in the country. From the money that is spent right now… Texas Tech is $40 million because of that billionaire is just dropping money on them, it’s crazy, it’s (expletive) nuts. This roster that is on the field right now, probably top-four. Now how the money is spent is a different story. But money in the program… it’s the strategy behind it.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2025/12/05/penn-state-ad-pat-kraft-audio-leak-alleged-players-meeting-coaching-search-michigan-cheaters-oregon/87623117007/
LOL, these guys were literally running kiddie rape camps, and Oregonians are the weirdos?
Here’s a guy (https://osubeavers.com/staff-directory/dr-doug-aukerman/9) that literally left Penn State and never looked back. He was good friends with Paterno but says the weather there sucks ass, and so do the townies as they’re always up anyone connected to the program’s ass.
That didnt last long. Penn State hires Iowa State’s coach and Iowas State immediately fills that vacancy with WSU’s new coach, Jimmy Rodgers.
Lesson here is dont get too attached to Shephard
Don’t get attached to the coach and don’t get attached to the players. Essentially, just don’t have any emotional attachment to college sports anymore. Fun.
Serious?!? After one year?
What the hell
“The school said Rogers has agreed to a six-year deal.
Rogers, 38, went 6-6 this year with Washington State in what proved to be his lone year with the program. Prior to becoming the head coach in Pullman, Rogers spent two years as the head coach at South Dakota State.
He went 27-3 leading the Jackrabbits, including a 15-0 national championship season in 2023.
…
He has been on my short-list ever since the first time I met him. He immediately impressed me with his interest in Iowa State University and told me during our first visit several years ago that he wanted to be the next head coach at Iowa State.
Since our initial meeting, I have stayed in close contact with him and have been very impressed with his work ethic and understanding of what it takes to be successful at Iowa State. He is a proven winner who has demonstrated throughout his career that he will fit our culture.”
…
I’m extremely grateful for the opportunity that Jamie Pollard has given me to lead the Cyclones.
“From the administration, to the alumni and current student-athletes, this University has everything needed to compete at the highest level in college football. I am honored to be given this opportunity and responsibility and cannot wait to get started!”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/12/05/iowa-state-hires-jimmy-rogers-football-coach/87633849007/
Now who will WSU target?
Traitor Smith?
I would fully expect them to pursue him. He’d come fairly cheap with his buyout from MSU and he’d probably take it to get back in the game immediately. If he sits out a season, he risks becoming old news.
Did Vigen sign an extension?
The WSU AD got fired this year so that’s a huge contributing factor. Also a reason why Smith got fired. A new AD at MSU came in this year.
Barnes is a few years away from retiring or getting fired too so that’s when Shephard would be likely to leave if he can. Football coaches and ADs basically go hand in hand now.
It’s interesting he left his alma mater quite quickly after becoming a head coach just like smith did. The school that gave him a ch de for coaching, he worked his way up on the staff and then bolted for wsu.
You should never get attached to any coach but also shouldn’t assume their motivations.
We have no idea what Shephard’s long term goal is but if he does leave for another gig it likely means the program is in a better place than when he began so that’s fine.
And if rumors of a serious donation turns out to be the real deal the OSU could be the FBS version of Gonzaga basketball overnight. Assuming Shephard and his staff are average, it is all about NIL now. That’s the only number I care about. And it’s suddenly a good job.
At this point in my life I assume the most likely outcome, because it’s Oregon State football, is everything goes wrong,
Better get over to Beavers Football X and enjoy the 1:30 sec video RE the Shep Era…”The dam standard is set.”
https://x.com/BeaverFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&ct=google-seo
Matt Campbell was one of those guys who has been waiting for the big opportunity. Penn St feels like a great fit for him, but I’m not convinced he will do any better than Franklin. Penn St is like Nebraska and has a fanbase that thinks it is still 1993 or something. I am kind of surprised Campbell took the job just because of the gross baggage that the school has historically. I wouldn’t want to be associated with it if I were him. He could have waitid until Ryan Day gets an NFL gig and returned to Ohio, but who knows how long that wait might be.
WSU has been jilted once again. They made some good hires but that is crazy to see the guy bounce after a 6-6 year and only 1 year there. Maybe he didn’t realize the Palouse was such a desolate place before he arrived.
Lots of players and coaches will be on the move and available. Every school is now on a 1 year timeline evidently, from the coaches standpoint looking for other opportunities and from the school standpoint, ready to fire the guy if he can’t turn it around “this year”!
I guess this is the intended consequence of an NFL lite version of college football with literally no guard-rails, contracts, caps, or integrity. Money rules and many of these coaches are going to be set for life after 1 jackpot contract (looking at you Jonathon Smith)…crazy times.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/how-the-unruly-black-market-for-high-school-athletes-tore-a-family-apart/ar-AA1RKdVa
That is truly a sad and frustrating story and solidifies the thought that college athletics is and has been one big grift. And now the poison is deep into high school athletics, or at least deeper than I imagined. I hope the kid is successful and gets something out of college beyond the football team and doesn’t crash and burn somewhere along the way. What a mess.
Perfect:
“I guess this is the intended consequence of an NFL lite version of college football with literally no guard-rails, contracts, caps, or integrity. Money rules and many of these coaches are going to be set for life after 1 jackpot contract (looking at you Jonathon Smith)…crazy times.”
Lurking on ISU forums, I’ve read that the ISU AD and Rogers are friends. Rogers is also friends with the hoops coach. The Iowa jobs were dream jobs for him, and when he took the Wazzu job, the ISU AD asked him why. He told him he took the job because the ISU AD told him that he would need to coach at a FBS school before being considered for either job.
Penn State is a way better job than Nebraska due to geography. Better proximity to recruits, bigger alumni and donor base. Nebraska has no choice but to try and recruit guys from CA, TX, FL, etc to come to…Nebraska.
Franklin did everything at PSU except win in the playoff. Lots of accomplished coaches have come through Lincoln and done WAY less since the early 00’s.
Based on my multiple years negotiating contracts such as interstate compacts, private sector agreements, multi state collaboratives, etc, I seriously doubt that Georgia has little legal standing of the following excerpt from the article is accurate.
When the article suggests, Wilson enter into arbitration to settle a clause in his former contract that serves effectively as a buyout fee for exiting his deal early. Wilson.” The comment “serves effectively as a buyout…….”. This suggests to me the provision in the contract might be somewhat ambiguous. Although I have no way of knowing bc I haven’t read the contract, but if that comment is any indication, Georgia will have a difficult challenge in arbitration.
A cardinal rule in contract law and that is: it is incumbent upon the party writing and issuing the contract to be very clear in in their contract provision’s intent. When that becomes a question in a legal dispute, the decision usually does not favor the respondent.
Regardless, I think it will be very challenging for Georgia to prove damages of $390k in damages since Wilson was only paid $30K. However, what this case will do is create a legal precedent as indicated in the article that the NIL needs a legal overhaul that protects the players and the collectives.
Imposing buyout clauses to protect the university and the collective, is certainly a measure that could bring some stability to the current wild west landscape, but it’s just the beginnings of necessary changes to college athletics.
I’ll be very interested in the outcome of the arbitration.
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I seriously doubt UGA can win the case. They’re essentially claiming that the loss of this one player has damaged their team by one whole roster spot that cannot be filled, let alone that it can’t be filled with similar talent. They also can’t claim that this loss is valued at the rate it cost to develop him, since that was paid out over the two years he was there. That pay was the value they set, and they got what they paid for. Since he left two weeks after signing this and played in a game, I would expect the best they can claim is a clawback of half the month’s pay they did distribute.
I agree but as the article pointed out, this case will hopefully stablish a legal precedent and a revamping of the NIL and portal process limits the transfer craziness that is hurting college sports. We shall see
Incoming PAC teams final records
BSU 9-4
SDSU 9-3
FSU 8-4
Utah State 6-6
Texas State 6-6
CSU 2-10 (coaching change)
PAC
WSU 6-6 (coaching change)
OSU 2-10 (coaching change)
Per AI although these amounts are estimated amounts each school spent on all sports NIL in 2025 on all sports or specifically football but I don’t know how accurate this information is:
BSU $2M
SDST $4M
FSU $4-5M
USU $1.5M
TXST no data available
CSU $4-5M
OSU $5M
WSU $4.5M
So compared to P4 schools that spend on average ~$20M, the disparity is significant
Well Texas Tech is supposed to be spending $40M on its roster….UO $30M…Ohio State 20-something….Indiana?
So my impulse this morning is see Indiana defeat Texas Tech in the National Championship, so they prove that its all really about spending now…not program building.
Shockingly Texas Techs qb has been there all five years of his college career. That should be bonus points.
He’ll be glad not to be in Reser facing The Shepard and his flock if Beavers next September….
I heard uo is closer to $60 million plus. They average $263k per player on their roster. They’re spending $70k more per player than the next team which is Alabama according to On3. This is how they’re getting more 5 stars than any other program, and how they’re signing the best class in uo history. It’s not because Eugene is super awesome, or custom Jordan’s, a fashion show every game, flashy facilities, Alice Cooper band music, Shout, Ohana etc. Phil Knight is determined to buy himself a “Natty” before he dies.
Aren’t football rosters 105? @ $263K per player, that would be $27.6M, which is close to the $30M figure I’ve read…or are you including coaches too? I remember last year hearing that Ohio State had $40M into both coaches and players…I suspect many estimates are low.
I don’t think uo is obligated to share how much they actually spend in NIL? On3 I think could be speculating? The $263k is based on the commitments in this years class. I’ve heard most of uo’s O-line is being paid $1 million each. Nix was being paid at least $2 million when he played. Are they being paid in Nike stock? All I know is that uo is spending more than anyone else, and I have heard it’s $60 million or more.
I think last year Indy spent $13.5M from what I read or heard on a football broadcast. No idea about this year but I’ll bet it’s more.
“ anyone who says money is the root of all evil f..king doesn’t have any” Ben Affleck in Boiler room
“You are an embarrassment to the game of pool and should be glad I even let you play at my table.” – Ben Affleck in Dazed and Confused.
Dear WSU Acting AD Haarlow: I can be in Pullman in less than twenty four hours! Would be happy to take over as head coach. I came into a little money lately so I will be willing to work at a huge discount.
Except for one time I’ve been a loyal employee with a proven track record. Call me. JSmith aka 9er
PS: Got to get out of the house. Wife and kids are pissed about being “stranded” in freezing ass Michigan.
Had me confused for a minute, coach. Thought you were talking about yourself.
Lindgren is from SE WA, would WSU reach to hire him as a HC? Affordable….
Wilner up with a piece on the WSU situation, worth a read.
Says, “After all the twists of the past four years, WSU might have one more in store: Emerging from Rogers’ departure with a brighter forecast for life in the rebuilt Pac-12.”…….and he backs it up with several points.
https://archive.ph/FaKIk
I think I already know the answer to this but if Alabama wins the national title can the Beavers celebrate it and post a picture of the trophy?? Seems logical.
Couldn’t hurt recruiting if our coach is flashing a NC ring.
Isn’t going to happen as Alabama might not even make the playoffs.
I mean Eugene ran out a pic of lanning in grellow and essentially that same script when they hired him from GA
Cougcenter salty :-3
I bet if one school gave up the whole “student athlete” farce at the FBS level and went FCS or just shut down the program, others would follow like dominoes. Everyone who isn’t invited to the big boy club with the big boy money has to know deep down that this whole thing is ridiculous.
Agreed. If OSU hadn’t just “completed” Reser, I’d say shut down football. Focus on baseball, basketball, gymnastics, soccer…and maybe, just maybe, academics?
Ridiculous comment. For one football generates more money for the school that all those others listed comibined. Probably 10 fold. Plus its fun to watch and gives this blog a purpose for existence.
How many schools are actually making money in football? I get it’s a “generator,” gets attention…
UR forgetting about the media rights deal. Going to FCS level, schools would have to but several athletic programs just to be able to find enough $$$$ to pay coaches and fund football, basket and baseball. That’s why the leadership fought so hard to rebuild the pac12 and not become part of the MWC….economics.
So,,, 12?
….would have to cut several athletic programs….
That was my initial thinking, but how sure can anyone be that the revenue and interest won’t wane as the futility and gap between the haves and have nots increases? When there is truly zero loyalty or continuity by anyone from one year to the next? Heck, the WSU coach didn’t even stay there a full year.
I don’t think this is a risk for happening right now, but I could see it happening over time as people see the amount you have to spend just to end up with a continually lesser product. At some point they’ll find something else to invest their time, money, and interest in.
While just shutting down football isn’t likely, moving down or a group of have-not schools forming a new kind of league is a real possibility IMO. The current state of things is probably not sustainable.
Also long term viewing habits. Are young people today going to be watching college football in 10, 20, 25 years? Won’t that affect broadcast deals?
Considering FCS schools are still trying to move to FBS I think you’re clearly wrong.
Also put me on the Jonathan Smith to WSU train. Glue that black hat on already!
Would make that game an actual rivalry instead of whatever the hell it’s been since the PAC puked
Would probably get Reser pretty full!
“Freshman star QB Jaron-Keawe Sagapolutele won’t enter transfer portal: ‘I believe in Cal'”
…yet…waiting for bigger offers…
If he does stay good for him.
Maybe he’s actually interested in the academic opportunities
Hahahaha good one! :-D
It’s possible that Duke just cost the ACC about $30 million by beating Virginia, real possibility that Miami doesn’t get in and Duke for sure isn’t getting in.
And they spent $4M on their QB! And cost the conference $30M?!? Ha!
James Madison and Tulane are both getting in as they will be ranked higher than Duke. The last at large will come down to 2 loss Miami and 3 loss Alabama.
Miami is more deserving than Bama. Debate away if you wish but neither of them is gonna win it all
Did the beavers get in?
Whatever happened to conference champs getting an auto bid? Otherwise, what’s the point of having a conference championship game?
Top 5 ranked conference winners do get an auto bid, but when two group of 5 school champs are ranked ahead of Duke, then Duke is not one of the 5 auto bids.
I guess we need a 24 or 32 team playoff, so all 10 conference winners get it along with the SEC and BIG still each get 5-7 teams in, only way to make it work…
LOL
I don’t think they should have conference championship games anymore. What benefit is there? It penalizes more than it benefits, plus there is increased risk for injuries.
Same goes for non playoff bowl games.
With all of the coaching turnover and transfer portal turnover, those games are all garbage.
People tune in more for the pop tart mascot than the actual football game.
I agree 100%
Why pay attention when most of the players who played during the season to help their teams reach a bowl game end up opting out, and don’t play in the bowl games? To either improve their draft options, or to sit out to transfer to their next destination. College football has been destroyed and it just sucks now!
Conference championship games should exist, the playoff shouldn’t.
Solves the problem right there.
The NCAA should do what they did with hoops and create their own tourney. All conference champs get a an auto-bid, and at-large bids are filled on merit (or politicking, more likely). They sanction their tourney winner as the only true National Champion, and distribute money similarly to how hoops does it.
There should not be a private entity in cahoots with half the FBS teams to run a feedback loop that benefits only them. The bowl games themselves are a part of the current system, and I’d be willing to bet they’re as clean as entities like the IOC and FIFA.
Well, Bama could have beaten a bad FSU team to start the season, and there would be no debate. I thought all games counted? ACC really effed things up!
If all the games count a team that reaches their conference championship game should get credit for playing that game vs having a bye.
If not, no team should play a conference championship. If you qualify, refuse to go. That’s what leaving Alabama out would teach.
Just like leaving Texas out teaches schools to never play tough non conference games.
Maybe, but Texas lost to a bad Florida team also. I personally liked the 4-team playoff, short and sweet, but money has ruined college football.
The loss wouldn’t have mattered if they’d played and beat Ohio instead so it’s irrelevant to the point.
They’d be in despite that loss. So the lesson is still do not ever play tough non conference games. Never do it. It’s foolish.
Texas Tech’s billionaire booster talking about how they approached the no rules NIL changes of the paat few years to buy their way to the top. Don’t know why people question whether if it’s all about money = success in college football.
https://x.com/i/status/1997404588907851982
Notre Dame gets shutout this year by the committee. ACC gets a bid for Miami after all. It seems like this is a shot at ND’s independence.
Protecting the conferences by at least getting some revenue back to the ACC if they kept Miami in the field.
I’m not sold on Alabama deserving it, 5 teams from SEC when they are still playing only 8 conference games is trash.
6 SEC teams, my midwest friend.
Alabama deserves it over every SEC school but Georgia. The other 3 SEC teams are less deserving.
Leaving Notre Dame out is ridiculous.
I hate Notre Dame, but I agree they got the shaft.
I think it’s funny they turned down any bowl game as well.. they mad
Or the players voted to not play in a meaningless bowl game.
Why should they?
So Shep coaching thru the playoffs now?
According to someone with knowledge of the situation, Shephard’s plane landed in Corvallis this afternoon and he is done at Alabama
They can’t win it all, might as well get on with the new job!
Kudos to Barnes for “out foxing” the NCAA. Kansas State and Iowa State both fined $500,000.00 for not playing in a bowl game.
Barnes figured out a way for the Beavs to not play a bowl game and avoid that penalty.
Well played Scott…we’ll played!
Notre Dame has just signaled to the bowl system as a whole that it is a completed shift from the traditional bowl postseason to the playoffs postseason in college football.
ND, Iowa St and Kansas St have all decided to cancel bowl plans even when they may get a decent matchup and destination. Probably other schools will follow suit. Ironically the NCAA tries to fine the schools for nonparticipation in events that NCAA inaction has drastically devalued anyway.
It used to be a way to reward the team and get extra practices for the younger guys on the roster.
What this means is the turnover rate for rosters is so numerous that even ND with an established coach/staff don’t view the extra 15 practices as a true benefit compared to preparing to scour the transfer portal and acquire upgraded talent for the next year.
I’d guess there is a behind the scenes grudge match about ND maintaining independence and the playoff power players. But underneath everything is a crumbling of the old bowl system in real time. It was a logical step from McCaffrey opting out of Stanford’s bowl game to ND opting out of bowl games. We are there and those who crafted the destruction of traditional college football have conquered. Now we will see what is left.
Next we will have talking heads clamoring for playoff expansion, probably 32 team playoff with SEC guaranteed 10 spots.
And a complete end to the bowl structure as old fashioned and unnecessary, at least all of the bowl games ESPN owns broadcast rights for will be eliminated.
“Oregon State women pull away late to avoid upset against Alaska Anchorage” Nice headline O-Live! The ladies barely squeaked out a 16 point win.
We are the Seawolves and we’re ready to play!
Apparently Trent Walker was granted an extra year of eligibility by the NCAA. But does Shephard bring him back?
I don’t think a school is under any obligation to bring a player back who gets an extra season to play
Is he seeking a longer college career than Bo Nix?
Time to move on…wonder where he’ll go?
If jsm sees something in him then I’ll trust that given his track record with receivers but please put some speed at the punt returner spot.
Unfortunately not a scoring threat as a receiver either. 4 TD receptions in two seasons(?). Not all on him, but given the number of targets and decent number of catches, it’s a surprisingly low number.
I hope he’s not returning punts anymore if he stays. Dude was zero threat back there
He was a walking fair catch machine (as much as I appreciate his dedication to Beaverdom). Maybe they didn’t have anyone else who could catch a punt?
I see why the Beavs signed that Aaitu OL kid to a PWO offer last week. He has a younger brother in the class of 2028 who is already 6’3″ 290lbs and plays OL as well.
The ducks have a tough road ahead of them. They should beat JMU, but then get TT. I think TT is just too big and physical for the ducks. However, if the ducks do get by TT, then they have to play Indiana most likely as I don’t see OK or AL beating Indy..
Bottom line, I don’t think the ducks get out of the second round. I’ll take Indy vs TOSU in the title game with Indy winning the title.
Could we possibly see Indy/TT in the championship game?
Yep, that was my second choice.
Brackets are set for that as a semifinal matchup not championship possibility.
I have never read so much truth in a comments section, rightfully refuting the main article:
https://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-cougars-baseball-soccer-track-and-field-rowing-tennis-golf/48593/it-is-time-for-cougar-fans-to-step-up#comments
People are wising up :)
Glad they’re coming to terms with the obvious.
The donir funded model for revenue generating sports is bullshit.
Obviously the Beavs did their part to get them there, but it is worth noting that Oregon State only played two teams, Sam Houston State and Tulsa, not playing a bowl game this year and two are in the Playoffs. Lafayette was even decent, finishing 8-4, but not chosen for the FCS playoffs.
Getting into a bowl game should be a layup for most teams that play 3-4 Non-Con games.
You don’t believe me?
5 win Mississippi State gets to play in a bowl game this year. Their 5 wins came against:
2 win Arkansas
3 win Northern Illinois
7 win University of Southern Mississippi
5 win Alcorn State
#12 Arizona State(ok, 1 quality win)
Final records of future PAC members:
BSU 9-4
SDSU – 9-3
Fresno State – 8-4
Utah State – 6-6
WSU – 6-6 (new coach incoming)
Texas State – 6-6
CSU – 2-10 (new coach)
OSU – 2-10 (new coach)
It’s really all too stupid.James Madison playing Oregon because “they both”made the playoffs.” Sure.
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Funny to listen to the ND rationale for skipping a bowl game, followed by jeers and sneers form the ESPN losers who see an opportunity to belittle ND for whining.
I’m not to surprised that ND is upset. I’m not surprised at the ESPN idiocy either.
ESPN has been on a mission for 20 years to diminish the bowl season tradition of college football. All ND did was finally kill the bowl game traditions ESON so despised as a road-block to their playoff dream. In the back rooms ESPN brass is surely celebrating today’s headlines. But on air, the talking heads must have been instructed to berate ND as a last ditch effort to force them into the BIG10 one way or another. ND is the only brand powerful enough to carry any value or influence outside of the SEC?ESPN?FOX/BIG10 (Big4) circle.
ESPN Events owns about half of the lower tier bowls. They don’t hate the bowl system, but they have been profiting off of it. Each game they own builds on the over the air inventory it can use for broadcast and streaming services.
ESPN has ruined bowl season, but not on purpose. Just just think it will all lead to more money.
Why would ESPN want ND in the Big 10? That’s a FOX conference?
ESPN has a lot of faults, the rampant conflicts of interest between their on-air talent, the Playoff, the bowls, their programming arm, their news arm, they are the root of all of the problems with college football, or at least the oxygen that allows the conferences to run amok.
ND to the PAC! Haha
Then USC ditches the B10 due to their private equity plan, rejoins the PAC to maintain a “rivalry” game with ND….CAL, Stanford, UCLA admit that traveling to B10 and ACC venues for football and playing baseball in the snow and Olympic sports in Houston Texas sucks furry balls, and also rejoin. The PAC 12 has 13 teams (a baker’s dozen!) and the league plays 12 conference games, telling the rest of the NCAA football world to suck it. All PAC teams refuse to wear Nike uniforms or use Nike footballs. The Conference reacquires the Rose Bowl for the conference championship game, and the coin toss is visited by the ghost of Bill Walton, who says “Here, in the Conference of Champions!”
Fuck USC with a pointy stick. They can kiss my lily white ass.
They and UCLA have destroyed our conference twice, now.
It’s been awfully quiet on the OSU front since the press conference & signing day. Anybody know when the current group of assistant coaches are supposed to be officially announced?
Are there any other rumors on who will be hired for some of the vacant roles?(OC/DC/RB/DB/LB/ST)
I think its two things are happening here:
1. He’s not a nepo hire so there are fewer existing connections to OSU AD and local media types that leak this info.
2. Its taking longer because he’s not just grabbing the same old bunch of rag tag assistants with OSU connections.
Also still working at Alabama?
There should never be a 21 pt underdog in the playoffs. It either means there is too much disparity among the teams or it’s not the best teams in the playoffs. In reality, both are true. Fans screaming for expanding the playoffs and paying players…. be careful what you ask for.
The best teams don’t fill out most tournament brackets, even in pro sports, and nobody cares.
I would think the people funding the games would care. If nobody watches a bloodbath game, the sponsors aren’t getting any value from it.
To be fair, I was talking about people, not the jagoffs running TV or marketing firms.
I would let the committee screw around and pick one Cinderella every year and then let Vegas pick the eleven best teams to fill out the field.
I suppose a counter argument is anything can happen in a game, and upsets are fun for viewers and pundits. JMU is Cignetti’s last stop, correct? So JMU will likely be calling him up for tips, though that won’t erase talent and depth gaps.
Even in the NFL, the best teams don’t always wind up in the playoffs, because of having equal conference representatives and geographic distributions within conferences..but their geography IS built around viewing markets…
I’ve never clamored to see whatever a group of people tell me is “the best” play.
Conference champs deserve to be there. 5th place teams from however big the SEC is now don’t deserve to be there. Nor does a school that couldn’t reach its conference championship game despite that conference being the ACC.
But I accepted the playoff isn’t for me long ago.
You were also clamoring for Beau Baldwin to be the next beavers coach several years back. That chuckle fuck has bounced around and not amounted to dick at the fbs level.
So forgive some of us for not holding your opinion in high regard.
But by all means keep trying your best
Totally agree
Here’s my idea for solving this playoff problem, maybe just maybe we should let 10-12 more programs go independent and then we can create a few more smaller conferences, maybe call one the Southwest Conference, another could be called the Big East, maybe even a Western Athletic Conference. Maybe have 10-12 such conferences with no more than 10 teams. Everyone in these conferences plays everyone else in said conference but also has 3-5 non-conference games that are largely filled by Independents and maybe a regional school or 2 from another conference.
And go from there?
Just a thought.
All it would take is Congress passing a law saying all FBS conference champions get a birth. It would go back to regional conferences of 8-10 teams pretty quickly.
ASU QB Leavitt expected to head to portal again….
Who’s going to pay the most: Miami, lsu, or Texas Tech? If he goes to Indiana he will not get the most money but the coaching will be great. Any other big names going in?
unlimited transfer/1 year then move on, great for the game
Someone smart tell me if this is a good idea
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/utah-college-athetics-football-basketball-private-equity/
Short term in might be brilliant, long term it will be disastrous.
Private equity is another term for loan shark….
Joanne’s Citrus Bowl loading
is it a mormon equity firm?
I woyld assume this is the kiss of death for their olympic sports
College football is going to implode on itself. I can’t wait until the implosion happens as it’s already started. Wait until corporate sponsors pull the plug on paying millions and millions of $$$$ for advertising spots. Grab the popcorn bc things are going to get very interesting.
Few ever thought a portal or NIL would come into play until Ed O’Bannon opened up the can of whoop a$$ on college sports and several years later, here we are with as much chaos as we are something throughout the country.
Fun times?
This morning I was wondering about the number of good, enjoyable games that are contests….it seems there is more talk about NIL, player and coach movement, $$$, who is NOT playing, then there is talk about great games(?). But I don’t watch college football all Friday/Saturday….maybe Indiana/Ohio State was great(?).
A few great m, recent beaver games that come to mind for me was the close loss to USC/Caleb Williams, and running over the Ducks/Bo Nix and winning after down by 21(?)…
I’m going to watch Army-Navy this Saturday and though it may not be the best football played by the highest ranked players from some recruiting site it will be a game that should have minimal talk of NIL, player and coach movement, and money. Just pure football for the Commanders trophy and bragging rights for a year. A person would be hard pressed to find 2 teams that want a win more than these two. Go ARMY beat NAVY!
Yeah, that sounds like a good one…my mother lived back east for a while, was in her 60s, NEVER cared about football but went to Navy hosting Army and said it was a great time, cadets having to do pushups, crowd really into it…
FCS playoff games, I think are really good too!
Looks like Aidan Chiles may be on the move again.
More here ?? bit.ly/4puQVyX
He ought to head to ASU, see if they can rehabilitate his play and career. I’m no fan of the Ducks or their (former) coordinators, but they get efficient production out of their QBs. Didn’t ASU win or nearly win the B12 last year?
Ducks no longer develop QB’s, they rent them for a year or two.
Given the NIL deals, the coaching buyouts, the TV contracts, the bowl contracts, I’m sure athletic departments are more than capable of reading the fine print on a Private Equity deal. Hahahahahahaha.
I remember when I was a college freshman and some cute girls were offering me a FREE T-shirt! if I signed up for a credit card (despite going to school full-time and not working, what could go wrong?) Yeah, I maxxed that sucker out quick and was buried in debt for years. College athletic departments are the same way, spending money they don’t have in the hopes that it will magically fall from the sky at some point. But hey! We get a bowl trip!
If Utah already needs PE money to stay afloat, I’m guessing its better for them to blame the PE guys for cutting non-revenue sports than have to take the hit on their own.
Sometimes I think maybe the Beavs are outsmarting a lot of schools and just playing is safe with not taking big risks with debt. The only issue is they could become so irrelevant it won’t matter.
College administrators live in a fantasy land where they’ve never had to balance revenues and expenses. They are just the kind of suckers PE firms are looking for.
Obviously the entire contract with Utah hasn’t been made public yet but Utah is and will always be the majority stakeholder. They make all final decisions on anything business related and of course sports related. This is different than what the Big10 was working on and why USC and Michigan said no way. You’ll see USC and Michigan do their own thing like this. I don’t think its necessarily dumb by any means. Its an investment and will grow to more. Sports franchises do not lose money or go down in value. I wish OSU could do something like this as it would allow us to have maximum revenue share or close to it.
Apparently Lance Guidry is the DC target for Shephard’s staff. Worked with Shephard at W. Kentucky.
Was fired from the same role at Miami at the end of 2024 and spent 2025 as a defensive analyst for LSU.
Miami fans don’t have anything good to say about him based on the social media responses I’ve seen.
https://www.footballscoop.com/2025/12/10/sources-oregon-state-lands-veteran-defensive-coordinator-
That looks disappointing on it (admittedly) brief face….also worked with Willie Taggert more than once…
Shepard contract:
“Shephard will make $1.6 million in 2026 with an annual increase of $75,000, according to a memorandum of understanding between OSU athletic director Scott Barnes and Shephard, signed by both parties on Nov. 28. That includes a $960,000 base salary and $640,000 in ancillary/supplemental income.
…
Shephard will trigger an automatic, one-year contract extension should the Beavers make it to the Pac-12 championship game during his tenure. He could also earn up to $650,000 per year in additional performance incentives, according to the MOU.
…
…a buyout clause is in place for Shephard should he choose to leave OSU, and it scales down over the years.
If he gives notice of his departure before the first year is up, Shephard and/or his future employer would be required to pay OSU $6 million. That drops to $4.8 million in the second year, $3.6 million in the third year, $2.4 million in the fourth year and $1.2 million in the fifth and final year of the current contract.”
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/12/details-of-jamarcus-shephards-five-year-contract-with-oregon-state-football.html
It will be interesting to see the amounts for the coaching pool. I’m a bit surprised at the compensation, even with this being his first HC job, and I hope they provide him adequate funds to compete for good coordinators and assistants.
I like it overall for today’s out-of-control college spending, and if he proves successful, they can renegotiate for higher compensation.
Wayne Tinkle makes $2.8M base pay for reference.
Fortunatley he won’t qualify for bonus/incentives which could bump that number up another $1M
He was making roughly the same as AHC at Alabama. That is lower than I expected.
He sure must want the HC opportunity…I respect him for pursuing the opportunity and responsibility and I think he has great faith in himself and his work ethic.
The inability to compete for quality coordinators and assistants might be an issue(?).
Johnathon Smiths Contract was $4.85 M plus incentives. Lower third of the old Pac 12
The old Pac breaks apart. Barnes says OSU will continue to fund like a power four program.
Trent Bray’s signs his contract at $2M per year plus incentives.
New Pac 12 is formed. Barnes says OSU’s coaching pay will be at the higher end of the new Pac 12
JME’s contract is $1.6M per year plus incentives.
New Pac 12 coaching Salary’s:
Colorado State – $2.4M (Mora)
Boise State – $2.2M
Utah State -$2.2M
Texas State – $2M
San Diego State Sean Lewis – $1.8M 2025
Oregon State – $1.6M
Washington State – $1.6M (Rodgers) Unknown for the next coach
Fresno State – $1.4M
I’m seeing a trend here and it didn’t take long to play out….
Yeah Barnes says a lot of things. It seems OSU is spreading out the money in different places though realizing you need a gm etc.
As long as JMS is our guy we wanted, what’s the problem? Would paying him twice as much make him magically twice as good of a coach? If we can get a deal and have more money for staff and other expenses to program build, why complain?
What we know so far?
HC: Jamarcus Shephard
OC: Mitch Dahlen
WR: Torrey Gill
DC: Lance Guidry
DL: Inoke Breckterfield
Unknown defense: Dan Rowe
ST: Ricky Brumfield
Dahlen is co-OC and QB
A couple Alabama and Oregon State people “clarified” after the initial announcement that he would not be QB coach: https://x.com/ryan_harlan7/status/1995212726986215921?s=46
So who is the other OC? Shepard?
Per the above comment, I’m thinking Dahlen is to Shephard’s vision of O as Leach was to Hal Mumme.
Whether or not that’s a a good thing is tbd.
If Barnes can keep hiring the right guys, OSU could make a killing from bigger schools buying our coaches out of their contracts when they poach them after a year or two. It could become a whole new revenue stream.
Well… I hadn’t thought of that. Interesting…
For sure. Those buyout numbers aren’t keeping Shephard from going anywhere real quick like. We’ll see if he has success with this staff. If it’s just a bunch of Willie Taggart disciples, it might not work out, then we don’t have to worry about anyone poaching him. We’re damned either way.
Can there be a clause that says if you win x amount of the game the buyout is___ and have a few tiers?
You can put any reasonable terms in a contract you want as long as both parties agree to those terms.
Remember, we are paying a hefty value for their coaching services too.
I just read that players can play in a bowl game and not have it count towards their 4 game max to keep a redshirt. So hey guys I’m going to sit out a few games so I can keep my redshirt but I may decide to play in the bowl game. The locker rooms around the country right now must be fun.
There’s no longer any loyalty to the team. It’s all for one and the only one thar matters is ME!
If you din’t make the redshirts available, you might riak not having enough players on a roster willing to play in bowl gamds
Michigan fires their coach for an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. So many coaches changes this year for big name programs.
Sherronne Moore canned
next is Kalen Deboer to Michigan
then Dan Lanning to Alabama
then Jonathan Smith to Oregon
Ha!
“Goose-Goose-Duck!?”
Little kids running around the coaching circle…
No mention of Smith, but:
“Jedd Fisch, Washington
While there are other Big Ten coaches who could factor into this search, including Minnesota’s P.J. Fleck and potentially even Nebraska’s Matt Rhule — Rhule did sign an extension in October that boosted his buyout to $15 million — Fisch is the most logical candidate from within the conference. He previously spent two years as Harbaugh’s quarterbacks coach from 2015-16, did an outstanding job rebuilding Arizona over his three seasons and won eight games in his second year with the Huskies.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2025/12/10/michigan-football-coach-candidates-search-sherrone-moore-fired/87707963007/
As much as I’d like to see it happen, Dan Lanning is not leaving Oregon. He’s been quite clear about that and for whatever reason I believe him.
they all say that
He’s different. I guarantee it.
He gets paid what, $10M+ annually, which is like NFL money, gets a metric shit tonne of financial support and has so little pressure compared to Alabama, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State…he has a professional team with none of the pressure. That’s why he won’t leave.
The only second guessing or criticism of him has been in some close games with UW, where he made 4th down calls that didn’t turn out. He couldn’t get past DeBoer/Penix…but neither could the Beavers, who played them just as close as the Ducks did in points differential for two years, a 3 point loss at UW, a 2 point loss at Reser.
I’m impressed with Lanning’s ability to manage so much annual free agent turnover. But they buy and rent so much talent, I’d be more impressed if he lost players at key positions within a season and had to adapt within a season.
I don’t like him, I think he’s condescending in a very subtle quiet way, but he’s got a high winning percentage with pretty high roster turnover at key positions. That is important these days.
But I think his fidelity is based in high pay and low pressure in comparison to coach’s with similar salaries at “blue bloods.”
Yeah. He and his family are well liked in this town. And that includes me. He’s the first coach since Brooks I can say that about. His kids dig the freedom of nonconformity–the only real individualism there is. His wife is active in the community and has a compelling story.
And he was the one who wanted the ridiculous buyout necessary to poach him.
Just being in the conversation every year is enough. There’s enough financial backing to do that for a while.
The grass really doesn’t get any greener for someone who fits.
“Following a University investigation, credible evidence was found that Coach Moore engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member,” Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel wrote in a statement. “This conduct constitutes a clear violation of University policy, and U-M maintains zero tolerance for such behavior.”
What a joke…Cheater Jim leaves before penalties kick in…just identify the staff that DON’T have inappropriate relationships, it will be shorter….
https://x.com/darkostatenews/status/1998874553645170773?s=46&t=34_rFJi27ZiYh1yrvLtzxQ
x.com/darkostatenews/status/1998874553645170773?s=46&t=34_rFJi27ZiYh1yrvLtzxQ
Google Moore’s wife. Some interesting stuff there.
And now Moore was arrested in Michigan after getting fired. Crazy story coming out about breaking and entering at the house of his side piece.
This guy brike the news about him cheating on his wife 6 days ago
https://x.com/i/status/1996408337295200709
He just wanted his hat he left behind.
P***Y – it’s a hell of a drug!
Wonder if Legree will stick with us after tonight. He’s getting some good publicity in the High School Nationals.
Didn’t he sign his LOI already? Or is he still allowed to enter the Transfer Portal despite that?
LOI is not a contract. The athletes hold the power now.
Here’s some language I found on a company making sure potential investors understand they are making business plans to profit, the company is not liable for future outcomes, hilarious:
“…therefore Involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. Generally, future or conditional verbs such as “will,” “would,”
“should,” “could,” or “may” and the words “believe,” “anticipate,” “continue,” “intend,””expect” and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, strategies, plans, objectives, expectations, intentions, assumptions, future operations and prospects and other statements that are not historical facts, including our estimated future financial performance. You should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements.”
I wish recruits would append this language to their commitments, or when they change schools they can say “That being said, forward looking statements…”…I suppose coaches should too.
And Indiana loses a defensive starter to injury….
“Daley apparently injuring his leg while jumping up to high-five Indiana fans after Saturday’s Big Ten win. The Kent State transfer was seen exiting the field at Lucas Oil Stadium on a cart with his right leg immobilized. Per Pro Football Focus, Daley played a team-high 57 snaps for the No. 1 Hoosiers (13-0) in a 13-10 win over Ohio State and had six quarterback pressures with a sack.
Daley, an injury replacement himself filling in after starter Kellan Wyatt suffered a season-ending injury Oct. 18, has been one of the most impactful defenders in the country. He has 5.5 sacks and 19.0 tackles for loss — second most in the FBS — with six or more quarterback pressures in four of the team’s past seven games.”
Apparently Syracuse special teams coach Ricky Brumfield is set to be the next Beavs ST coach.
Good news for him is he can’t possibly be any worse than the last guy, so fans will think he’s great.
Looks like Syracuse fired he and several other staffers after a 3 win season. But Special Teams seemed to do just fine.
They were the 18th ranked team in terms of punting average while OSU was LAST PLACE IN THE NATION.
Their kicker only missed 2 field goals all year and made all 22 of his extra point attempts. Maybe we should take him too
Has had a good amount of success as a ST but he’s been fired from his last two roles. Fired under unknown circumstances at Gtech before moving to Syracuse last year. Hopefully both are not related.
Connected to Shephard via Western Kentucky.
LAST PLACE IN THE NATION? And yet we had a really good punter in Winsor. Shows how bad other aspects were.
Rated 70 on EA Sports. https://www.ea.com/games/ea-sports-college-football/ratings/player-ratings/aj-winsor/10334
i guess snapping the ball past the punter or having your QB punt it can hurt your average
Maybe they should have let the punter throw some passes?!?
Looks like Lance Guidry is the top choice for d coordinator. He’s had some success as a d coordinator in the past. Was head coach at McNeese St for three years with winning records in all three years. While I’m not sure if he’ll be a good coach, I like that Shephard brought someone in with head coaching experience. A guy who can run his side of the ball.
Also connected via Western Kentucky
He has experience. Shepard will have to get some retreads if he wants guys with experience. Hopefully the comments about his stop at Miami aren’t an indicator for how it’ll go with the Beavs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/1pjng7k/sources_oregon_state_lands_veteran_defensive/
Guidry looks like an awesome hire.
His defenses at McNeese and Marshall were really good. McNeese success turned into a HC job and Marshall success turned into getting hired at Tulane, then jumping to Miami a few weeks later when the offer came through. His Miami defenses finished 26th and 29th in the nation in yards allowed and yet he was fired because of points allowed. Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with Cristobal’s in-game management…
That track record is more encouraging than Tibesar, for example, who got demoted to position coach at a new job after every DC stint he’s ever had.
Guidry’s defenses’ national ranking in yards allowed:
2011 W Kentucky- 45
2021 Marshall- 85
2022 Marshall- 16
2023 Miami- 26
2024 Miami- 29
I couldn’t find stats for every year at the FCS level, but McNeese defenses ranked in the top 30 nationally. He also had a winning record every year as HC at McNeese.
And if you’re thinking “yards per game isn’t a great measurement” here’s yards per play ranking:
2011 W Kentucky- 70
2021 Marshall- 32
2022 Marshall- 10
2023 Miami- 36
2024 Miami- 44
The guy can clearly put a defense on the field that is in the top third of the country, often better, at many levels of competition.
And if you’re thinking “stats are meaningless; I want to know what the PFF guys think”, here are his defenses’ PFF rankings:
2011 W Kentucky- N/A
2021 Marshall- 36
2022 Marshall- 11
2023 Miami- 21
2024 Miami- 12
Yikes! I actually didn’t think things were this bad financially.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/12/where-does-oregon-state-coach-jamarcus-shephards-salary-rank-in-the-new-pac-12.html
They aren’t. That’s about the going rate for someone who has not had full OC duties.
I get it, at Oregon State, if you can save a buck you do. But sometimes you get what you pay for as well.
You compensate a guy in the lower third of his peers, it sends a message.
Its a perception thing, schools like Oregon would never do it, they have high expectations for their HC’s.
Also no point in blabbing that your going to pay at the high end of the conference if you’re just going to pay way less based on finding a guy with less experience.
Ahh… so Larry Scott was right all along.
Got it.
So Barnes is still being paid at a P4 level, just not the football program (or even at a competitive G5 level apparently). Got it.
Tennessee is paying their new DC $2M+ per year on a 3 year deal.
I could see the Pac12 HC jobs being attrsctive for the experience and multi year aspect typical of those contracts, but if coordinators are getting multi year deals at higher pay rates, that’s tough to compete with
I haven’t looked at all DCs but he demands a pretty high price. He was great when at Ohio State when they won the championship and then went to PSU. Matt Campbell was bringing his own DC with him so no reason to keep Knowles. I think he was making close to 3m per year at PSU.
BSU and UW play in the final LA Bowl Saturday….the LA bowl was set for MWC champion and PAC12 #5 team….
Mitch Dahlen official. QB/OC. OSU press release about 20 minutes ago.
That’s a huge step up for him. Hopefully JMS is holding on to a lot of the key decisions.
And hopefully he’s bright, creative, organized, and works his ass off.
Canzano is reporting Dahlen is officially hired as offensive coordinator. No “Co-” in that title
Didn’t realize Dahlen was from Redmond Oregon…
“Dahlen got his start in coaching as the passing game coordinator at Sandy High School back in 2011…Dahlen has since made collegiate coaching stops at Black Hills State, Fresno State, Washington and Alabama,…
Dahlen will also serve as quarterbacks coach for OSU.
“I couldn’t be more excited to be coming back to a place I consider home,” Dahlen said in the release. “I have spent many Saturdays in the stands at old Parker Stadium and to see how far this place has come is amazing. The history of this football program has been in my blood since I was a kid, and I couldn’t be more grateful for the opportunity to lead this offense.
“Coach Shephard is a true leader of men and I am excited to get to work for one of the best coaches in the country. I am looking forward to hearing the chainsaw in front of a sold out Reser in the fall.”
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/12/oregon-state-names-alabama-assistant-with-deep-oregon-ties-as-its-offensive-coordinator.html
The Shepard:
“Ready Mitch?
Un huh
Ricky?!?
Yeah
Lance?!?
OK
All right fellows, let’s gooooooooooo!”
https://youtu.be/tqketmsRz1E?si=a_tHszju4MQNcNEK
Ha!
Ah, the old ‘Ballroom Blitz” – hopeful it turns into a defensive tactic!
A few observations about JMS and this process for the new staff.
The Good:
-A lot of new and unfamiliar faces floating as part of the new staff, but with ties to JMS over many years in the coaching world.
-Not a lot of whispering or leaking info because none of these guys are known to the local media.
-A complete departure from anyone in the Riley coaching tree, a very good thing.
The Bad:
-Barnes and the marketing department went full cringe on JMS arrival. Barnes gets kudos for not hiring another retread with typical OSU ties.
-Bottom half of the new PAC for a staff isn’t setting a positive trajectory. Hopefully there are a lot of incentives for pay increases etc for this group. If thearte grinders and show results and momentum, they need to be rewarded. Let’s hold of on yearly extensions until some really big things happen, though, like a playoff appearance.
-OSU needs players and the roster isn’t great. Hoping that JMS and crew can bring in the right type of guys to fill out the roster, and turn over the roster.
-I’m hesitant about too many ties to Willie Taggart honestly. Taggart seemed like a pretty sketch guy back when he was the UNike HC. Never really liked him.
The Ugly:
-My expectations after this past year.
-OSU budgets for the future, without major NIL donor injections.
Virginia Techs Jeff Eaton is new strength coach
New OC went to my high school, that’s interesting. Still not a fan of the hire.
Who was your preferred hire? I don’t know who they were looking at. With Shepard having recent experience with the offense maybe he’ll be heavily involved?
If we are hiring a first time head coach I’d prefer someone who’s been an OC a the FBS level before. Jumping from Analyst/Assistant QB coach is nuts to me.
Didnt you want Beau Baldwin as HC several years back?
Btw, how has that dude fared since his EWU days?
I was intrigued by Baldwin. And how is that relevant to my point? And I’d still prefer Baldwin to the hire they made at that time (Andersen)
Are you happy we have an OC whose last job was offensive analyst/assistant QB coach?
Might work but that’s a big leap.
Cort Dennison — most recently the defensive coordinator at Idaho — will join JaMarcus Shephard’s staff as co-DC and linebackers coach.
Hey, I got one right!
Predicted that one 2 weeks ago.
http://angrybeavs.com/football/17478#comment-447824
University of Utah opens Pandora’s Box by signing a $500M deal with private equity. I can’t imagine there might be a possibility of corruption that could happen in this questionable relationship. Wow
The have at least one older mentor type coach don’t they? I don’t know that I mind a bunch of young guys provided they are smart. Lots of good young coaches in the NFL. I think you lose something too the longer its been since you played. Granted you gain a lot in experience as you get older but the game changes too.
Guidry is 54 or somewhere around there.
Wait till you find out Shephard goes back to the Western Kentucky well and picks up Willie Taggart to coach RBs at OSU
Ha!
Notre Dame is sad and that is good…
https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/notre-dame-college-football-playoff-controversy-21235480.php
Well… that was a waste of time.
Also, the part funny guy left out:
“But I think it’s more complicated,” Fortuna said on “The Independent” podcast. “Everything about the social media campaign, etc., is true. From my understanding, the ACC was very sloppy with it.
“They accidentally CC’d Notre Dame on some of these conference-wide emails. That really rubbed Notre Dame folks the wrong way.”
“They did the old accidental reply-all thing,” Sampson said. “Not good.”
https://www.newsweek.com/sports/ncaa/acc-accidental-email-notre-dame-11190509
Notre Dame is right.
I spent a summer chasing Catholic girls at Camp Howard…
Still no oline coach yet. Coach M come back!
One can dream!
“For years, college football fans have been told that the real problem in their sport is the lack of a national playoff. Every attempt to institute such a system, however, has resulted in howling complaints whether it was against the BCS, the four-team playoff or – now – with a 12-team format that people like ESPN’s Kirk Herbstreit argue really needs to be 16 teams. The issue isn’t the format, though. It’s the fact that college football is particularly ill-suited to a playoff and that’s because it is structured more like medieval Europe than a cohesive national sport. You’ve got an array of nobles and local warlords who are arranged in arbitrary and ever-changing regional alliances with a few walled cities wealthy enough to make their own rules by threatening to lower the gates and freeze everyone out.”
Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/article313566105.html#storylink=cpy
Well, yes, there’s that.
But what’s really wrong with it is the old Bowl Coalition plus their TV partner run the playoff, not the NCAA itself. It’s to college football like the NIT was to college hoops. It’s why the NCAA Tourney started in the first place. But it still took a dozen years for one of those local warlords (Kentucky) to say, “Screw it. We’re going to play in the NCAA Tourney, not the NIT.” It more likely happened because Adolph Rupp was a racist who disliked getting whipped by the Beavers, an integrated team. But it still happened.
And the NIT’s only claim of glory after that was when Al McGuire’s Marquette refused their NCAA invite and played the NIT, instead.
The NCAA needs to create their own tourney, and they need to sanction their tourney winner as the only NCAA 1A (even the name FBS kowtows to the bowls) National Champion. Every conference champion gets an auto-bid, period. The at large teams are filled out with all the politicking garbage. The nobles and local warlords will sneer and call their invitational winners the national champs for a while. But without the NCAA recognizing their claims, they will come on board.
What the NCAA should actually do is create or buy 6 Bowls and play them on New Years Day like the old days. The NCAA shouldn’t create an FBS playoff, they should recreate what made FBS great to begin with. Which was New Years Day.
Thinking James Finley could be a potential candidate for WR or TE coach. Currently at CSU but leftover from old staff. Former duck player.
https://x.com/CoachFin_
I guess TE since Gill is already pegged for WR
Another potential TE coach, Louisville TE Coach Ryan Wallace
https://x.com/Coach_RWallace
You are correct. WR coach. Just read where Gill is still coming in a TBD capacity.
New OLine coach will be Kirk Barron, according to Big O. Was an assistant OL coach at Alabama and played at Purdue when Shephard was WR coach there
https://x.com/RyanTClarke/status/1999519580113469471
I think public officials in the State of Michigan should check the water supply. I suspect they will find excessive amounts of testosterone have seeped into the water supply.
By my count it’s been 10 days since JMS was introduced; how impressed (or not) should we be with the progress he’s made filling out his staff?
If I’m being honest, it feels alot like the early days of the GA hiring. Fast talking head guy who can get people excited about the program again. Lots of optimism from fans, but also lots of unproven assistants converging and stepping into roles they may or may not be ready for yet.
I don’t have high hopes for year 1 results. Shephard has alot of work ahead of him and the Beavs arent starting from a very strong position in the new Pac12. We are essentially at rock bottom and hitting reset.
I’ll wait to grade the hires once the staff is complete.
That makes sense, I’ll be interested in your take.
Throwing a name out there for Michigan if they can’t pull a big fish from a college: Kliff Kingsbury.
Kyle Whittingham stepping down at Utah.
But possibly not done with coaching??? Michigan perhaps?
I think Whittingham is done butr if he took his staff and Michigan gave them 3-5 years, I think he would win a National Championship there.
WSU hires Mizzou OC as HC –
Exactly one week after Jimmy Rogers’s surprising move to Iowa State, sitting athletic director Jon Harlow and school president Elizabeth “Betsy” Cantwell have found their guy. Moore was the offensive coordinator at Missouri for the past three seasons.
Moore was the offensive coordinator at Missouri for the past three seasons.
Moore, the younger brother of legendary Boise State quarterback and now New Orleans Saints head coach Kellen Moore, makes his return to the Evergreen State, having grown up in Prosser, Washington. He becomes the fourth head coach for WSU since Mike Leach’s departure for Mississippi State in 2019.
There are multiple upsides to this hire. First off, Moore has proven to be a solid coach quickly moving up the college football ranks. Moore got his start as a wide receivers coach at the College of Idaho directly after his playing days in 2014. He then moved on to be a grad assistant at Washington (gross) from 2015 to 2016. After his GA days at Washington, he moved on to become the WR coach at Fresno State. Moore was promoted to passing game coordinator in 2020 and later offensive coordinator in 2022. Only one year after becoming the offensive coordinator at Fresno State, in 2023, Eliah Drinkwitz hired Moore to serve under him as the OC at Missouri. The following offseason, Moore was given an extension as he became a popular name in coaching searches around the country, such as at Washington State.
Moore’s first year at Missouri, the Tigers went 11-2, defeating #7 Ohio State to win the Cotton Bowl, and finishing 8th in the final AP poll. Missouri’s offense scored 32.5 points per game, which was 29th out of 133 FBS teams. While the offense dipped a little to 28.9 ppg in 2024, it was back up to 32.2 this past season. Missouri finished eighth in average rushing yards per game in the country this season with 234.1.”
Sounds like a pretty good hire?
WSU has made solid hires traditionally and as of late. Unfortunately keep losing them and Heisman level qbs.
Michigan hiring ASU’s Dillingham
A coach leaving his alma mater to go the big ten. Where have we heard that before. I hope he beats the ducks every year.
That is so funny. Watch Sam Leavitt and Jordan Tyson also transfer with
him.
ASU donors will be apoplectic…
Leavitt was already in the portal prior to any Dillingham rumors. Looks like the rumors got him a raise.
Source?
Sam Vlidak starting QB for Stephen F Austin vs MT State tonight.
Well traveled. OSU to Boise to Montana to SFA.
Should have been at that level from the start of his career
A few more spots filled since Scott’s post the other day.
Am I missing anybody? Not sure if Torrey Gill is still supposed to be on the list or where.
HC: Jamarcus Shephard
OC: Mitch Dahlen
OL: Kirk Barron
WR: James Finley
DC: Lance Guidry
CoDC/LB: Cort Dennison
DL: Inoke Breckterfield
Unknown defense: Dan Rowe
ST: Ricky Brumfield
GM: Eron Hodges
S&C: Jeff Eaton
??: Torrey Gill
Some details about Finley:
Finley was nominated for the Broyles Award — given to the nation’s top assistant coach — in 2023 when he was CSU’s tight ends coach. He served as wide receivers coach and recruiting coordinator for Finley was nominated for the Broyles Award — given to the nation’s top assistant coach — in 2023 when he was CSU’s tight ends coach. He served as wide receivers coach and recruiting coordinator for CSU in 2025.
his daughter is attending Oregon State.
Is his daughter actually attending OSU?
Had seen she was accepted to the school but didnt realize she was enrolled.
If course now it would make sense to enroll, assuming staff get a tuition break?
Apparently is. Might also lead him to stick around a few years…
The limit for on field coaches is gone so he can hire as many guys as he wants. I think they just use the analyst titles now for the lower level guys.
Ryan Wallace who I mentioned yesterday is indeed the new TE coach and Co-OC.
Lee Marks from Memphis is the RB coach.
What’s this co-OC stuff?
I was told there would be no co-OC.
Jack, also co-OC.
How many co-OC spots are available?
Co-this and co-that, what?
Always figured “co” was actually just a way to justify a raise, didn’t really mind it then. But, if it now means in game management by committee, that’s a whole ‘nother thing.
Hopefully they only contribute to game scheme development, but only one guy is calling the plays?
On the plus side, if you have multiple guys with experience calling plays, you’re in better shape when one gets poached
Notice Ryan Clarke reports Wallace will be “Co-OC working alongside primary offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Mitch Dahlen”
Oh, and Marks held the title of “assistant head coach” at both Memphis and UW.
Gonna take a three dimensional spread sheet to keep it all straight! But, whatever works…..
So, how long before they drop the farce completely and don’t even require the “student athletes” (LOLOLOL, stop I can’t) to enroll in classes?
I haven’t heard those 2 words put together since covid. Once the free trasfer deal went so did the “student” part of student athlete. When was the last time you heard of a guy being ineligible because of grades? That use to happen all the time. Its been a minute.
As soon as Sherrone Moore is out of prison Shephard should offer him a job. He’s obviously good at coaching young beavers.
Daaaaaang I see what did there. LOL
Lance McGee named Washington Prep POTY.
What position is he likely to play in college?
6′ 215 athlete and played RB and LB. State championship game,344 yards rushing and 6 TDs so he could very well play RB although I don’t know how fast he runs the 40 or 100 and couldn’t find it on the Internet. He is a power RB so I suppose it depends on the beavers needs and I would say defense is the biggest need for OSU.
Well if he is all that, enjoy his play as a Beav for a year and see where he gets to play after getting an NIL bag from a Big10 team…
Well, I’d rather have him for one year than not at all.
Kind of concerning to see a top future PAC 12 team get their asses kicked tonight by a mediocre Big (whatever the number is) team.
It doesn’t matter anymore how we match up against those teams, it matters how we match up against the “best of the rest”. The gap will only widen, and let’s hope JMU and Tulane can actually put up a fight this year or the “best of the rest” will probably be written out in the rules in the next playoff iteration anyway.
The goal is to consistently be at the top of the Group of Six in football and see what the future of realignment looks like. There is no other objective.
It’s kind of sad that the absolute best case scenario is the Beavers build a legit P12 team, run the tables then get bounced out in the first round of the playoffs. I mean maybe… maybe they catch a good match up against a team on an off day and get 1 win but that is the absolute best case scenario if JMS is the absolute real deal and everything goes perfect. Then after that season all the top players transfer and the coach moves on.
It just doesn’t seem worth it, I’d rather they create like a 32 team mini NFL super league and let the rest play like an FCS model playoff. It’s funny cause I mountain bike and I’m faster than a lot of people I see but not really good compared to true competitors. People have asked if I ever want to do a race and my thought is what is the point in entering a contest I know I have no shot at winning?
Pretty much. The highwater mark for OSU football will always be 2001 Fiesta Bowl win. Beavs will never have another shot to be that close to a National Championship in this current version of college football.
In order for any team outside of the power conferences to do it, it would take a series of upsets on par with 2024 Northern Illinois beating Notre Dame on the road, followed by 2009 Utah vs Alabama upending the SEC champ, followed by 2007 Stanford beating USC, then 2007 Boise St vs Oklahoma all in sequential games to win the National Championship.
And all assuming the refs are fair and the powers that be don’t take matters into their own hands to stop the upsets.
At this point, any game won would be a greater upset than the 2008 victory over USC by the Beavs.
So you’re saying there’s a chance…..
Where can I donate more money?
Well, between the B10 and the SEC, you have 34 teams…”have to” include ND…high grade the ACC to pick up a few tv markets, dump some low end B10 and SEC teams, and you get there pretty quick. But then you have an Indiana, which no one saw coming even three years ago, and despite being driven by an infusion of cash, they’ve become a “great story,” the NCAA football team that lost more football games than anyone else is undefeated and conference champion…
What is funny is I don’t really see a school like UCLA coming back to any sustained relevance in this new format…or a Nebraska…things cycle and you never know (see Indiana) but it seems unlikely.
I think another kind of revised PAC conference could be good, with WSU, OSU, Cal, Stanford, Utah, BYU, SDSU, CSU(?), maybe UA, ASU? 9 conference games, 3 non con…use the ASU football field for the big conference bowl game, natural grass, mild weather, take back the Fiesta Bowl….Ha!
“LAS VEGAS — With its membership set and media rights deals in place, the rebuilt Pac-12 finally has clarity on the proper timing to announce its 2026 schedule, bowl affiliations and format for the conference championship game.
Those essential details will be revealed … sometime after Jan. 23.
Settle in, folks. The conference plans to wait for College Football Playoff executives to establish a format for the 2026 season, and their Dec. 1 deadline was recently pushed back eight weeks.
“We’re trying to be really deliberate around what we’re trying to accomplish,” Pac-12 commissioner Teresa Gould told the Hotline this week at the Sports Business Journal’s forum on college sports at the Aria Resort and Casino. “Getting our champion into the CFP, which is where we think we should be every year, is one of the priorities. It’s not the only priority. It’s one of the priorities.
“Delivering high-quality games is important, both for our media rights partners and for our fans. There are all kinds of considerations based on what we’re trying to accomplish, but I don’t know how you decide that without resolution on the CFP.”
…
Meanwhile, Pac-12 officials are nose-deep in the nuts and bolts of the reconstructed conference.
Merton Hanks, the chief of football operations, has modeled dozens of schedules with both seven and eight conference games.
There are options for the conference championship, as well: The Pac-12 could use the home-host format or stage the game at a neutral site. (Discussion with potential hosts are ongoing.)
Conference executives also have engaged in numerous discussions with potential bowl partners. (This is the final year of the current bowl contracts.)
But everything is on hold for the CFP. Once that falls into place, it shouldn’t take the Pac-12 long to fill out the details of its inaugural season.”
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-cougar-football/pac-12-2-0-football-key-elements-of-2026-season-on-hold-as-cfp-negotiations-drag-on/
Merton Hanks!!!
I don’t know if a conference championship game is a wise idea if you want to get your champion into the CFP.
I do hope if there are open weeks teams still need to schedule, they will try and play other G5 schools even if they have to travel.
WBB Tiara Bolden:
“My whole family, they all went to U of O, they graduated from there,” Bolden said. “And I was the one kid that was like, ‘You know what? I want to do something to my family hasn’t done.’ I wanted to go to Oregon State. Out of all the places that I’ve been to, one of the biggest things that I gave as, like, a piece of advice for other people, is to go where you’re wanted, but also go where you feel like you’re going to be supported the most.
“I’ve told Scott (Rueck), I wish I was here for all four years. Just because of the experiences and the way that people welcome you with open arms, it’s very special.”
Bolden averaged 8.1 points per game in her first season with the Beavers in 2024-25. But this season, after an eventful camp which included a season-ending knee injury to leading returner Catarina Ferreira, Bolden has stepped into a leading role by averaging a team-high 16.1 points per game on better than 50% shooting.”
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/12/golden-tiara-bolden-forges-her-own-path-to-stardom-at-oregon-state.html
NO sport is safe from hyperbole, NOWHERE on this earth, EVER!
“Texas A&M Volleyball shows no fear, shocks world with Nebraska upset.”
I am shocked the world knew about this game and these teams…
There is no law that requires journalism to be factual, unfortunately. So, in the author’s opinion, “the world” was shocked.
Mendoza awarded the Heisman this weekend…I thought as a CAL FR against the Beavers in ’23 he had good awareness, kept plays alive, threw well (but for the pick)…this highlight video of that game is a kinda funny, forgot about things like Beavers’ onside kick attempt backfiring, loved CAL player’s response….Velling busy in the end zone…CAL players seem to make a quite a bit of unnecesary contact after the Beavers cross the plane of the end zone and the play is over…Bolden with some very good returns…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM6P2bZEfsc
“…This is, to me, a foundational game to build upon.” Says Rueck after an OT barnburner vs undefeated ASU. Beavs won the second half but came up two short in OT.
Free throws: ASU 9/14, OSU 3/5….just sayin’
No wall here:
https://archive.ph/Dkbbo#selection-771.96-771.147
Lady Beavs played outstanding defense this game; best defensive game they had all year. Unfortunately, they are offensively challenged as they only have a few players that can create their own shot late in the clock: Bolden and Villa primarily. Shuler can drive pretty well and can pull up short and shoot the short fadeaway, but that’s about it. I suspect she never really developed an outside shot prior to college because she never really needed it to score in high school. From 20+ feet she is 50:50 on whether she even hits the rim and she is a liability at the free throw line late in the game, shooting .320 this year after just over 50% last year and under 50% the year before. Alonso, a bright spot through the first half dozen games, has all but disappeared. Three point shooting is spotty and point production out of the post is sparse. Although they have 13 players on the roster, they really only play 8 in a tight game. Rebounding is an asset; this was their best rebounding game of the year. Much like OSU teams of the past, turnovers are a big problem, tallying 21 for this game. They will win a majority of their games this year based on defense and rebounding and will probably challenge again for the conference title, but this team has a definite ceiling.
6’5″ 310 OL Boyajyan leaving Huskies, ’24 recruit to DeBoer, from N CA, played all over the line in practice. Game time? No so much. 3 year’s eligibility…B10 all academic team….wonder if Shepard will pursue him?
I’m sure people will disagree with me here but I happen to think that it has never been easier for OSU to win a national title in football than it is now.
I know there’s been a lot of talk about the best you can hope for it run the table in the new Pac 12 and then get crushed in the playoff but I disagree. That’s a likely scenario but the reality is, it just about money now.
Pre NIL, old Pac 12, you’d have to hire great coach, recruit well for years, get a little luck and you’d still probably never win a title at OSU. You’re just never going to beat enough blue bloods in traditional recruiting battles to get a roster to Corvallis that is good enough to win a title. Erickson almost did it but aside from that OSU has never really been close in like 130 years.
Now all you need to make a legitimate run at a National Championship is a good (not necessarily great) coach and a wealthy donor willing to pay for the players. The going rate for a roster that can compete for a title is about $30M-$35M. See Texas Tech for an example.
OSU has some wealthy alumni that could give in that range, they just haven’t decided to spend money that way. To me it feels like we have a more realistic opportunity than we’ve ever had. its just money that’s needed.
I assume that’s $30-$35M for one season. So for $30M+ you get one legitimate shot at it. And the odds still aren’t great since there are probably going to be 8+ other schools in that range. Then if you don’t make it, you need to come up with another $30-$35M to try again, otherwise you’re back to mediocrity.
I don’t know how in the hell you sell that donors…
Honestly, I don’t know how you can’t sell that to donors.
OSU has at least 3 billionaire alums, for any one of them a 30 million yearly donation would be like someone that makes $100k a year donating $40. It is doable. Need the right salesman.
Ask for 50 m over five years. Get three donors to do that knowing it takes a few years to build up the program.
All we need is:
3 donor to drop $10m= $30m
3 donors to drop $5m= $15m
5 donors to drop $1m= $5m
10 donors to drop $500k=$5m
50 donors to drop $150k=$7.5m
100 donors to drop $25k=$2.5m
1000 donors to drop $10k=$10m
5000 donors to drop $2500=$12.5m
10000 donors to drop $1000=$10m
Total=$92 million
16,171 donors of various ranges. OSU has multitudes more alum to pull from even in the smaller fields. Where are they? I think there is a precipitous scaling back of donors because there hasn’t been great communication or any real vision for where OSU could be with an all-in approach.
Krol is likely correct that the chance is there. But once Texas Tech wins in spite of the Blue Bloods trying to rig the playoffs, then this window will close as well. Someone in the SEC will begin demanding accountability in NIL and the Texas Tech upstarts will again be put in their place. In the meantime, as Krol notes, OSU could jump into the fray for at least a 2 year window of opportunity, with the right fundraising and talent evaluation.
Shep brought Nvidia up that’s a good start imo.. just not sure these billionaires want to invest if there’s no ROI.. I wouldn’t lol
See, this need for a ROI to do anything is silly, People do things without getting a return all the time.
And honestly if you get to the point where you have fuck you money and are still only interested in things that give you more money your brain is broken. The whole point of fuck you money is to be able to spend it on whatever the fuck you want rather it returns a profit or not.
Dude, have you seen a billionaire who says, “I have plenty of money, I don’t need to make anymore”?? Those guys do have a sickness that makes them always want more. Do you think Elon needs a Trillion dollar pay package? Fuck no. But he wants it. They either want to use money to make more money, or they want to give tax deductible donations that help them pay less money, which ultimately helps them make more money.
Doozle gets it
Yes, many billionaires say, “I have plenty of money and don’t need more”
Or at the very least spend lots of that money on things that don’t return massive investments.
Paul Allen off the top of my head.
Elon is a perfect example of a billionaire that clearly isn’t right in the head.
“The whole point of fuck you money is to be able to spend it on whatever the fuck you want….”
I would suggest changing that to “….fucking spend it on whatever the fuck you fucking want…”
Seems good on paper but in reality, if anyone of them cared about football they would have donated to it already. Jenson donated $50 million to the academic growth of the university. Do you just want someone to tell him, thats great and all but football should be more important to you than building a huge AI infrastructure at the Univeristy that will help your business? Obviously the Panda Express people don’t care and see much more value in being a minority owner of the Blazers. Both examples are a much better use of funds than being a 12 seed in the CFP and being a 20 point underdog to Ohio State or Georgia or LSU or Oregon or well the list goes on and on
You can be a 12 seed and 20 point underdog in the playoffs without any major donor dough. See JMU for example.
If you want to have a real chance at a title, you need the money from donors buts that’s an easier path than OSU has ever had in my opinion.
That is a fact but typically only one group of 5 team will ever make the CFP bracket. I know two did this year but that was because the ACC tie breaker put two crappy teams in the conference championship. So if the Beavs are the highest ranked G5 team they will be no higher than a 12 seed. The Beavers could spend $30 million on a roster with the hopes the voters make them the highest G5 Conf. Champion. Very high risk use of $30 million. Until we are back into the Power conferences and have semi-equal playing fields it makes zero sense to boosters, it would be too large of a risk.
I agree about ROI. But some people buy rvs and they depreciate, go on lavish vacations etc. For some they want to be a part of something and they will pay money to do so. I also think there could be some return, maybe not the full amount compared to the amount donated. Many people on here have suggested ways Nvidia could combine their products with college athletics. That’s just an example. You see donors come out of the wood works randomly due to some conversation or their young spouse being an alum (see Michigan). I’d like to hope things are being attempted. I’m not on the golf course though so you may hear more than me.
How about the Nvidia student section. Give them all VR goggles or something with AI stuff loaded in them.
I’d argue that is a failed sales pitch.
I could make about 500 different arguments to how supporting the football program supports the academic growth of the university. No one at OSU seems to be able to make that sales pitch which is unbelievable to me.
Completely agree as there has been a study about student enrollment surges ~15-20% when a school wins a national title in football or basketball.
I think you could make a pitch if you can find the results of that study and show how success in athletics benefits the academics too.
You could also make a pitch to use AI in athletics for evaluating potential recruits, coaches and game strategies. Athletes could promote the use of AI in training, physical conditioning, etc, and Nvidia could pay the athletes for their promotion of Nvidia AI.
Those reports are of application surges, not enrollment. You still need the infrastructure to house and feed the “more” students, should you choose to accept more.
OSU built the infrastructure and that’s why our student population has exploded. Nikegon was late to that game, and that’s why they hit a plateau or even went backward a couple years. They’ve done a lot of building (other than sports facilities, which they built first) in recent years.
Yes, winning a national championship often boosts a university’s profile, leading to more applications and sometimes increased enrollment, a phenomenon known as the “Flutie Effect,” though the actual enrollment bump can vary, with some studies showing increased application numbers but not always a proportionate rise in students, and sometimes even a slight dip in the academic quality of applicants (though overall GPA might rise).
Key Findings from Research:
Increased Applications: Studies consistently show that major athletic success (like winning a championship or making the Final Four) significantly increases the number of applications to a university.
Enrollment Yield: Winning can boost enrollment yield (the percentage of accepted students who enroll), meaning more accepted students choose to attend.
Academic Quality: Results are mixed; while applications increase, sometimes the academic quality of applicants (e.g., top-tier high school rank) can slightly decrease, though the average GPA of enrolled students might rise, suggesting athletics act as a “consumption amenity”.
Not a Guarantee: Some schools see little change, and the effect isn’t a “magic bullet” for enrollment management, notes Yahoo.
Basketball vs. Football: Basketball championships often show clearer, strong impacts, while football’s influence is also well-documented, with some research finding even upset losses can boost enrollment.
In essence, athletic glory acts as a powerful marketing tool, raising a university’s visibility and desirability, which generally translates to more interest and a larger applicant pool, impacting enrollment numbers, even if the academic profile shifts slightly.
I do know this, Oregon State hasn’t had a year to year decline in enrollment since Mike Riley 1.0. Paul Risser, the President at the time came from Oklahoma, and knew that the school’s football futility was a detriment to the school. Oregon State went from 14k students to somewhere north of 24k in the last 20-odd years.
You see the stadium then, and what it is now, it all goes back to that.
You could change the way you evaluate athletes, develop and implement training, evaluate training equipment, fan experiences at games, and the way you promote athletes.
But U if Nike will probably beat OSU to all of that, and use NVIDIA tech in doing so…
Maybe they have but the billionaire boosters just don’t care enough about athletics? I don’t know about you but I never go on vacation to places I hate or order something for dinner that I can’t stand the taste of.
Sell them on all of the free advertising they’ll get during every broadcast.
“How did OSU come from depths of hell, to college football National Champions?…..It was all thanks for Panda Express, Nvidia, Reser’s Burritos and Betty Crocker Cookbooks”
Hell? HELL?!!?!
Corvallis is the best college town in the PAC12!
I still think “NVIDIA Stadium, scoreboard and holograms!” Panda Express seating section (new side), Reser Section (old side), the deck for Oregon breweries….
Allow for local favorites on Beaver Street – Woodstocks, Local Boyz, American Dream….
Make space and accommodations for decent tailgating…
I was wondering if Corvallis is still the best college town in the Pac-12. You look at “best places” list and you add Fort Collins, San Diego, Logan, and there is a lot more competition. But….. it looks like we’re still no. 1 now that Boulder left the scene.
https://www.bestcollegereviews.org/50-best-college-towns-america/
Boulder is nice in terms of location, but unless you want to talk about cocaine or yoga, you’re sol.
San Luis Obispo looks pretty nice. Anyone been there? Is it actually nice, or crazy expensive and annoying?
SLO is great, but also crazy expensive. And Pismo Beach is just a short drive away.
Someone might have already posted this but Chiles is in the potty.
Tell him to crack a window and use the fan
So am I, way more times in a day then I’d like to admit.
Well, I think the whole thing about the NIL and portal stinks, therefore, I will affectionately refer to the portal as the potty going forward.
Smith in the meant stall: “Psssst! Aiden! Aiden! Put in a good word for me at your next school, wouldja?!”
“next” not “meant”
I dated a married waitress over a three day weekend in Tulsa once
Here’s to winning..go Beavs…
Is that where you got the nickname?
That’s where he got chlamydia.
She got the “tip”….
All of the above…
The team that took down OSU at the beginning of the Men’s soccer tournament has gone on to win the whole thing.
Washington Huskies are the 2025 champs
Just saw an article about the high number of QBs expected to enter the portal…chasing that paycheck and a coach they think can develop them.
I’ve not seen anything on Malik Murphy. Transferring has to be on his mind, but his 2025 film is gonna be terrible…I wonder if he stays for a lack of options and tries to rehab his game with the new staff?
Let him be a GA and stay on the sidelines.
He refused to run qb sneak, takes hikes from under center, never pulled it on the zone read to run himself, every throw with a bit of pressure he was backpedaling and ducking as he threw, and to top it all off he couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn if he had time to throw.
No thanks to MM. I’d rather see a freshman struggle than be reminded of how much money was flushed by watching MM next year. No way he can improve enough in 12 more games to get a look by NFL scouts.
Yes, time for a clean break unless everyone else gets hurt.
I’ve not looked at this in detail, but in case anyone is interested, here is a report on youth sports:
https://projectplay.org/state-of-play-2025/introduction
Each year, the Aspen Institute’s Sports & Society Program analyzes the state of play for young people in the United States through the values of its award-winning initiative Project Play, which helps leaders build healthy communities through sports. We gather data from a range of sources, consult with experts, and identify trends that help capture how well children are being served by adults. The report is written by Jon Solomon with editing and support from the program team.”
Let’s start with the good (great) news: We can now conclude that youth sports in America has effectively recovered from the COVID pandemic. More children and adolescents engage in organized play than at any time since 2019, according to government and industry data.
At the same time, challenges remain – and in some cases have escalated over the past year. Expensive club programs, the growing influence of technology and private equity, government raids of parks where immigrant children play, and other developments have created a dynamic environment that suggests a reshaping of the youth sport landscape.
These are among the findings in the State of Play 2025 report, produced by our Aspen Institute Sports & Society Program. Other trends noted include: growing efforts to train coaches in key competencies and an emerging consensus that as sport delivery models evolve they should be anchored in the principles of the Children’s Bill of Rights in Sports.”
Can Wayne Tinkle go through the class for coaching competency?
I wish Tinkle would enter the transfer portal!
Gutridge has entered the portal
What about Shepard wanting Oregon kids on the roster as key to the team? Wonder if he made any pitch to Gutridge?
I hope it means we have an incoming Alabama qb and Guthridge decided to find a place where he will get a shot to play. It almost seems insane that he didn’t get any snaps this year after being scout team
MVP last year. He will probably go to someplace like Idaho or Utah St and tear it up. Good luck to him.
In-state kids who want to be Beavs are a good thing but if they never get a real chance then why expect them to stick around? Too bad he never got a shot as a Beav.
Didn’t he sort of a get a shot though by being on the team? Two staffs have now signaled to him that he’s not going to be a starter as OSU. He shouldn’t take offense, he made a D-1 roster and sounds like he was a great teammate contributing on the scout team. Take the in state kids but if the team is going to improve you can’t take guys that should be going to Idaho, take the in state kids that help the team be a contender in the conference.
Sure he was on the team and apparently performing his assigned duties admirably as a freshman. My contention is the lack of true on field opportunities for both Tia and Guthridge during the most disastrous run of qb play we have seen since GA or Pettibone eras.
If being on the roster is “opportunity” then I stand corrected. If seeing the field and real playing time is “opportunity” then I don’t think he ever was given a true chance.
Unfortunately, our coaches had a $1.5M gun to their heads that influenced their decisions about QB playing time.
I think we will know if he was given a true chance based on where he ends up and the spot the depth chart. I don’t have a ton of faith in the last staff with how playing time went. So many execution issues etc. I hope he find a good spot where he can play.
UCLA WBB beats Cal Poly 115-28. Wow
I saw they were favored by 63.5 points and I was thinking no way.
Take the over
What the hell is it with Sam Houston St? They’re going for the trifecta against MBB tonight. They already have wins over the Beavs in Football and Rugby so far this year.
If Gill is empty all season, will that be enough to force Tinkle out?
Hat trick completed, SHSU runs MBB out of the building.
“All three of Oregon State’s remaining quarterbacks — Murphy, Johnson and Ti’a — all have at least one year of eligibility left. Gutridge is the only signal-caller to announce intentions to transfer following JaMarcus Shephard’s hiring as head coach.
Read more at: https://portlandtribune.com/2025/12/16/oregon-state-qb-wilsonville-hs-alum-kallen-gutridge-announces-transfer/
JoJo Johnson, RS-So., DL Johnson, a redshirt-sophomore from Salt Lake City, appeared in 11 games in 2025. He logged a career-high four tackles in the Beavers’ season-opening matchup with Cal. By season’s end, Johnson racked up 18 tackles, including 6.5 for loss and 1.5 sacks. Against FCS Lafayette, the Beavers’ first win of the season, Johnson recorded his first-career interception and gave media members arguably the best sound byte of the season.
“What’s the most disrespectful way I can go through (Lafayette’s) quarterback?” Johnson said, laughing. “Just caught the pick, now I’ve got to body him. I tried to go through him, he went low and cut me. I was like, ‘Dang, I should’ve jumped (or) juked!” Johnson has three years of eligibility remaining.
Read more at: https://portlandtribune.com/2025/12/17/oregon-state-football-transfer-portal-conrad-hussey-jojo-johnson-2025/
DB Hussey leaving too.
Personally, I would rather see Malik Murphy transfer out than Kallen Gutridge. I’d make that trade any day.
I’d rather see someone who uses his potential, instead of protecting it while it slips away.
I’d prefer to see T’ia and Gutridge stay and have new staff establish a clear 1-2-3 order and try to foster some stability (ha!) and predictability at the position.
Murphy is now a major rehab project. He may still get paid somewhere, though not much if at all, and I think he’ll need to keep his pride and ego in check and commit to relearning fundamentals, enjoying the game and being a teammate, and getting an education(!) on scholarship.
If he did that well, he might go to a NFL camp as an arm, maybe make a practice squad….and catch on as a backup eventually. There’s always a coach that thinks they can rehab a tall QB with good+ arm strength. I suspect ge leaves but maybe ge found Shepard compelling.
I’m always surprised at the number of transfers leaving the program this time of year, when I didnt even know they existed on the roster in the first place.
Nobody sticks around long enough for fans to learn their names.
Isn’t this a reflection on society in-general? People are so much more impatient than they used to be. It’s becoming much less common for people to work for the same company for 3 years or more.
And if this is a reflection on society in-general, isn’t this a reflection on America? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
Part of this is due to how performance evaluations are structured in particular industries; if as a supervisor or lead you are capped by TPTB to a percentage as to how many individuals in your unit
at each level of achievement irrespective of how much quality work they contributed, why should anyone stay?
Isn’t it always better to work at a place where “the boss” hired you rather than inherited you? They have no investment in a “leftover’s” success. Don’t know how many places I’ve worked where “the new boss” clearly was more personally invested and interested in their own hires. Part of it is the “loyalty thing” – part of it is it makes them look better when “their people” succeed.
Why do you think coaches start looking around when a new AD comes in?
Chiles transfer prediction from an article:
Aidan Chiles: Arizona State
Chiles’ athleticism and ability to stretch defenses as a runner will give him a heavy market of interest heading into his final season, especially for programs looking harder at one-year rentals rather than a longer-term fix. Arizona State coach Kenny Dillingham offered Chiles as an assistant at Oregon and could be intrigued by his two years of Power Four starting experience.
Shep should just roll with Ti’a and Hatcher. Spend the big $ on the lines
And bring back Coach M. Is there an OLine coach yet?
Kirk Barron was reported to be the new OL coach by the big zero last week, no pay link here:
https://archive.ph/7jRk1#selection-853.23-857.0
https://www.si.com/college/oregon-state/football/report-kirk-barron-joining-oregon-state-as-offensive-line-coach-01kchz5a6ym0
I’d prefer Coach M too.
I know people in the AD were super stoked about this kid when he was here but thh, I’ve never seen anything that said all-star, can’t miss kind of guy. Maybe Smith just can’t develop a QB, that’s what the record shows. So maybe a fresh start with someone competent is all AC needs to succeed.
Seahawks win 38-37;in OT after a few of the weirdest plays I’ve seen this season… WOW!
Abd one of the ugliest uniforms….Nike trashes up the Hawks.
I liked the helmets but didn’t like the rest of it bc too much resemblance to the ducks.
New Iowa State football coach Jimmy Rogers earned some points with Cyclone fans with a fiery speech during Thursday’s Cy-Hawk men’s basketball game.
Rogers spoke to 14,000 fans at Hilton Coliseum in Ames during a first-half timeout. He told them about his excitement to be the school’s new football coach and how he looked forward to seeing them at Jack Trice Stadium next season.
Then Rogers encouraged fans to cheer for T.J. Otzelberger’s men’s basketball team and finished by saying, “Let’s beat the f—— Hawks” as fans erupted with loud applause.
…
Rogers was hired on Dec. 5 after Matt Campbell decided to accept the Penn State coaching job. Rogers comes to Ames from Washington State, where he led the Cougars to a 6-6 record in one season in Pullman. Rogers was previously the head coach at South Dakota State, where he led the Jackrabbits to an FCS national title.”
Predictions for the CFP?
Low ratings….
We have a new special teams coach: https://x.com/JewsFightBack/status/2001850875665609213?s=20
I think our old coach is now at the Rams… at least it seemed so in last nights game.
Oops… somehow grabbed the wrong link lol: https://x.com/mzenitz/status/1998586592500257214?s=20
Phew, glad that little Shapiro bitch isn’t our new ST coach. Didn’t think it could get worse than last year
Thumbs are split 50/50? Guess a segment of you think Shapiro would be a good special teams coach?
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but when I saw Cort Dennison announced as a new assistant and saw he played at UW, it sparked a memory. He was the sumbitch who knocked the ball out of Joe Halahuni’s hands on a potential game-winning 2-point conversion in double OT in Seattle in the 2010 season. That was a heart-breaker.
I was at that game. That one stung for a while.
WBB vs Montana State
Good gals comeback for a 2 pt win despite 22 TO’s and 50% FT
Game tomorrow vs Liberty set to be streamed by the school.
Well it was brief but OSU got a mention during the bama playoff game….interesting to see how long JMS keeps that ride going before coming over and getting to work….
He’s done with Bama. He’s been with OSU full-time since the day after the SEC championship game.
Are you sure? I saw an article about bama’s plan to cover for him during the time he had “ other obligations” for his upcoming job as they prepped for the Sooners. Article was on 12/12. I think he is still splitting time.
I’m sure. He’s in Valley every day since 12/7.
Sounds like you have plenty of inside knowledge so I will take you for fact. I was just going off this…. https://tdalabamamag.com/2025/12/12/who-is-stepping-up-to-coach-alabama-wide-receivers-with-shephard-missing-time-ahead-of-playoff/
Good to know he isn’t splitting time though and is at Corvallis full time preparing for recruiting etc.
Alabama had some guy named Hughes working the wideouts.
I’d assume Shephard ends up in Tuscaloosa soon for the Holidays with the family. But I know he was in Corvallis all week, including yesterday. And like I said, he’s been here full-time since the 7th working hard for Beaver Nation.
I am not here to argue with a fellow Beaver fan. Especially since you have obvious first hand knowledge. I’m glad he is there doing the work with the portal quickly coming up. Although it would have been somewhat refreshing to see one of these guys in college football player or coach finish what they started at the beginning of the season…thanks for the inside info though!
The guy who replaced Murphy at Duke:
“Darian Mensah finally pulled off what eventually had to happen, further underscoring a booming college football economy that isn’t slowing down.
An elite quarterback chose college football over the NFL. And will make more money because of it.
Mensah, who led Duke to its first outright ACC championship since 1962 in his first season after transferring from Tulane, will make — at the very least — the back half of a two-year, $8 million deal he signed prior to this season.
If Mensah were to leave for the NFL, he’d make half that or less for one season — depending on where he was selected in the 2026 NFL Draft. “
Makes sense financially. I think he was rated the 5th or 6th-rated QB on a projected draft article I saw. I like how the ACC championship is hyped, considering it didn’t get them much. With Mensah, they lost to two Go5 teams. How about the same season as with Murphy.
Does anyone know why so many football players have mouth guards hanging from their face masks and never use them? I just saw a Texas A&M player who has two different colored mouth guards hanging, and doesn’t use either of them. Is it just for bling? Are they required wear 37 pieces of flair?
Apparently CFB ratings are up 2-4% vs last year. I’m kind of surprised by that, but I guess it shows my Beaver apathy has made me out of touch.
It’s hard to argue the sport is failing when it continues to be profitable for the companies hawking it.
i suspect all the turnover actually help generates interest. Its drama.
Teams don’t necessarily represent schools, but rather a brand it seems.
Indiana.
Everyone loves an underdog story.
Are they an underdog? I read in here they had a big $$$ infusion to buy players. And now the coach is making better than NFL money…
I’d like to see TT and Indiana in the championship game, truly representing what the college game has become, and frustrating U Nike, who’ve been trying so much longer to buy a championship.
Maybe not dogs, but the average fan likely views their return to the playoff after such a long absence as a u-dog story.
Unfortunately, TT and Indiana can’t play each other in the title game, but I’d like to see that too.
They convinced Mark Cuban to start donating to his Alma Mater.
“Cuban told CBS the amount he gave IU Athletics was a “big number” that wasn’t tethered to a specific cause. But obviously his connection with Cignetti was the inspiration. And IU was able to sign several high profile transfers, highlighted by quarterback Fernando Mendoza.”
https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/mark-cuban-told-cbs-sports-he-gave-big-number-donation-to-iu-athletics/
Maybe we have a better chance of convincing the partial
Owner of the bucks to dump
Some money into football since he is into sports.
Gotta wonder if JMS will bring Strobe goggles along to try and reduce dropped passes.
https://tdalabamamag.com/2025/12/19/alabama-football-using-blinding-shades-to-train-before-playoff-game/
In Beaver fashion…he will only bring the dropped passes.
Anyone find it concerning that his position group has so many drops???
It’s mostly Williams.
Can you believe he’s only 18?
Anyway, it looks like Williams bought the press on his frosh season, upped his NIL, and did nothing to improve his noticeable deficiencies.
And since he’s such an electric athlete, Bama keeps putting him on the field. But his QB doesn’t trust him, and the fans have turned on him.
I’m not sure if we’ve been posting all of these, but here is the current list of football players hitting the portal Jan. 2
Outgoing Transfers (6)
Dylan Sikorski
Amarion York
Jojo Johnson
Conrad Hussey
Kallen Gutridge
Riley Williams
Dylan and Jojo are 2 that hurt. Dylan’s parents both went to OSU and he loves Corvallis but the lack of fan support, talent, and NIL plus new coach was too much. He’ll get a bag and make a run for NFL somewhere else. Could see UW, OR, Cal, and Stanford as options. He was getting interest from the Ducks in HS and I could see him in Eugene next year… barf
None of the players on this year’s roster are going to be paid to go somewhere else.
Reality!
Dylan was getting NIL at Oregon State and has several offers from P4 schools that are substantially higher. As bad as the O-line was this year, he graded out well and has tape shows well. He generally dominated the guy in front of him on the majority of snaps this year and didn’t surrender a sack. A football roster consists of a lot of players and there are multiple players on this year’s roster that will get paid.
Beavs need to lose much more than this off the current roster. Talent evaluation has not been great the last few years. Too many players that are adverse to contact, no ‘want to’, no assignment discipline, not enough effort, guys who shut it down when they’re non play side.
Not sure if it’s confirmed, but I just saw something about Bray going to Wazzu as their new DC.
Now they need to hire Lindgren as OC…
WSU HC Moore to have $4.5M for assistant coaches….
More than Shepard?
Looks like its legit
Does that lower the buyout the Beavs have to pay?
WBB
Good Gals complete the sweep, 7 pt win over Liberty. Only 9 TO’s tonight, 11/13 for FT’s……big difference from last night, different caliber opponent.
Lady Beavs beat Liberty 64-57 and Kennedie Shuler gets 21 points and 4-5 Ft and hits two consecutive FTs that were critical to extend the lead from 59-57 to 61-57 with under 1 minute to go.
Larry Steele is Ally Schimel’s grandfather. Steele did color commentary on tonight’s game on YouTube.
So Trent is the new DC at WSU – good for him. I thought he was a good DC, just not a head coach.
Given Moore’s success at OC and Bray’s best success as DC, they could be formidable in the new PAC. Because the HC is apparently from Prosser WA, and Lindgren was from WW Wa., I think it’d be funny ut they hire Lindgren as OC, then the Beavers could have a fun “rivalry” game. Or Smith as OC, ha! Then Reser would fill and the crowd would be loud…
I don’t wish Lindgren on Wazzu. Fresno, maybe.
If Trent Bray does a great job over there, it’ll be a dam Beaver moment for sure. Good for him though.
Most coaches have offsets in their contracts so Bray landing a job should help with his buyout. I’m not sure why anyone should be worried, his defenses fell off the map the last two years.
Texas Tech vs Oregon predictions
Texas Tech 34, Oregon 26: The Billionaire Bowl. It’s Nike money vs. oil money. Who ya got? The Red Raiders were my pick to win the entire CFP, so not shying away from that. The Ducks have so much speed, but Tech’s defense is one of the best in the country, led by the mustachioed menace Jacob Rodriguez. Dante Moore is considered the top prospect for the 2026 NFL Draft, but don’t sleep on Behren Morton. The Red Raiders’ QB will open some eyes in the Orange Bowl. — Matt Glenesk, USA TODAY”
Called it what it is!
Can’t believe Moore’s turn around under Nike U. Was a TO machine at UCLA, sat a year, now considered a first round prospect. Seems like a reach to me, but I was surprised at Hebert and Nix too, and their subsequent NFL performance….
TT 37 Quackers 24. TT is going to be too big and physical for the Quackers as the Nike U defense is not as good as TT. As usual, the quackers will get beat in the trenches when they face a superior defense.
I agree that TT is my favorite to buy and win the title but Indiana is my second pick.
Dante Moore is considered the top prospect for the 2026 NFL Draft
According to whom? There’s at least a dozen cfb qb’s id take over Moore. Not a believer in him and hes just one of the reasons Oregon isnt winning a title
Here’s a guy who has him at #2 based on his “composure and ability to operate with/without structure.”
WTF. Crazy.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2025/12/19/nfl-mock-draft-2026-ty-simpson-qb-first-round/87828906007/
The guy also has former Beaver CB McCoy in the first round, despite missing the season with an ACL tear.
mens bball wins at asu?
Poyer with a good game today state wise. I figured he wouldn’t get much playing time. 11 tackles and half a sack.
Cooks had one target for no receptions.
Tinkle signs an extension after beating a big 12 team. What a day to be a Beav!!
Poyer also had a pick.
Tinkle didn’t really sign a contract extension, did he?!?
I thought Cooks asked for his release from the Saints because he wanted playing time/targets, so he chose a team that also isn’t going to use him? I guess at least he’s on a winning team now.
Men’s Basketball with it’s most impressive win in a long time at ASU.
The one game I didn’t watch, and they beat ASU in Tempe. Hurley is an ass, so it makes it sweeter.
ASU 9-4, unranked (?), first non conference road win since 2019…
Seems like a pretty low bar?
Perhaps you’ve forgotten just how hard it is for a Tinkle team to win on the road. That was like making the Final Four.
In all seriousness, it was a quad 1 win. Nice performance. It obliterated ASU’s NET ranking, too. Down to 94 from 57 in one game.
Barnes to extend Stinkles contract for another 10 years!
https://x.com/Blakes_Take2/status/2002449117914804380
Everyone is a beggar now
I had a stroke just watching that
Shameless. No pride. Hope OSU coaches don’t start publicly begging like that….
But what if it works?!!!
He has been sent out to earn his most recent extension/raise/contract.
Maybe the point is to walk the fine line of shaming the boosters into donating while trying not to offend them to the point that they stop donating altogether.
He might as well come out and just ask their donors who has the biggest wang and is willing to put it on the table to prove it.
Given the results of the G5 teams on Saturday, is that “the ceiling” for what Oregon State could hope for in football. Make the playoff and lose by two touchdowns or more to a P4 team? Is that good enough? Even with the final scores, I could see the talent and abilities of Tulane and JMU, I also saw the differential in size across the lines and speed on the outside.
The Portal and NIL really makes for an unlevel playing field. In theory, a G5 program could recruit two and three stars, get an impactful juco or player from the P4 who wants to see the field, and develop them over a year or two and have a senior dominant team compete with a second-tier P4 in a playoff game, but it seems more likely any player showing a whiff of talent or size will hit the portal for a P4 school when it comes calling.
The top schools used to have holes. Like they’d miss on safeties one year and you could beat them deep. But now the top teams can spot the recruiting misses and plug the holes with transfers. At the end of the day money talks and a G5 could assemble a team that can compete but I don’t think any of them are coming close to that level of pay.
Very much like pro league; if you have $ can pick up players you identify that fills gaps just prior to a playoff run. >.>
It probably is the ceiling. But the ESPN/SEC mafia is already in the process of planning to change the playoffs to reduce the likelihood of it happening anymore. This was the 2 year experiment to show their good faith effort to include “Cinderella” small schools. But now that they have the results, they will reduce the access for schools outside of the Big10/SEC conferences even more.
I figure the next version will be only top 4 ranked automatic Conference Championship bids, expand to 16 teams, and somehow justify a minimum of 6 schools from Big10/SEC each year.
I think the ACC and Big12 are absolute fools to play along with the grift at this point, especially the Big12. Yornak has been blustering like he has some sort of leverage. Unfortunately, he is being led to the slaughter and doesn’t even realize it. ESPN has already signaled that they will do to the Big12 what they used to do to the PAC12. Everything starts with preseason rankings that are rigged and favor SEC/Big10 match-ups as the basis for future debates. Of course, Big12 will only have 2 teams in the top 25 for the first month of the season, while SEC will always have 10 teams in the top 25. The absurdity of the process has been exposed but nothing will change if conferences and schools continue to play along.
When Notre Dame objected to being left out, it was a valid argument, and they may have the best leverage of any single school, but it will take Big12/ACC/PAC12/MAC/SunBelt/MWC all to band together against the ESPN power play that is in place. It may even require some help from FOX to break the stranglehold of ESPN over the whole sport.
Disney is a cancer, ESPN is the instrument, SEC is the harlot, all other conferences are the dupes who think the access to Disney money is the most important thing.
It’s pretty similar to a 1 seed playing a 16 seed in basketball for the foreseeable future.
I’ve seen a few announcements from schools saying a player has been re-signed. OSU needs to look at the contracts they have players sign. Need to put in buyouts like coaches contracts that the new school pays. Nothing egregious. Basically to get them back to even or maybe slightly above on NIL/scholarship dollars were paid to that player during his time at OSU. This would reduce the amount of transfers each year. Structure it as transferring to P4 schools is a certain fee but going to G5 or lower is a nominal fee. Not sure if the fee part is legal but if it is, that’s the way it should be done.
From the Spokesman Review:
“Could Bray bring over a few Beavers? OSU had a forgettable season this fall, going 2-10, but the team still has plenty of talent. It’s possible a few players from that team end up wearing crimson by next season.”
Ha!
Do it! Addition by subtraction
Pac12 announces a partnership with something called “Playfly Sports”
Details are pretty vague other than Playfly is supposed to help the conference make money through identifying sponsorship opportunities.
Looking forward to “Pac12 after dark, brought to you by Flex Seal!” Or some other random As Seen on TV products
https://playfly.com/press-releases/the-new-pac-12-conference-partners-with-playfly-sports-for-sponsorship-development/
“And our FlexSeal player of the game is Beaver cornerback Trey Glasper! Like FlexSeal, Trey provided water tight coverage in OSU’s bend-but-don’t-break defense! Trey and his family will receive 10 complimentary gallons of FlexSeal to use on their home, boats, sheds, or RVs! Congratulations Trey!”
USC needs a non-con opponent in 26, even as they pause their series with ND…I suspect the Beavers need some non-con games?
I’d be surprised if USC even considered scheduling OSU, since they blamed OSU for the PAC12 problems anyway.
I don’t know but I kind of blame Lincoln Riley for this entire fiasco. I’m not so sure that there wasn’t some sort of stipulation between he and USC that he would only agree to the head coach position if USC left the PAC12. I have a relative in California that knows people at Stanford and Cal – they both want out of the ACC in the worst way – the travel is too much. What’s to say these 2 come back into the fold at some point?
They are elitists. They will stay in a power conference vs a lower conference and easier travel. Plus they know if they were to join the PAC12, they aren’t enough to boost the conference to a power conference.
Well, at least USC and UCLA gave the conference well in advanced notice they were leaving unlike the ducks, dawgs and the rest of them are hat slithered away in the middle of the night much like traitor Smith did.
Seems like a body bag type game. Low expectations next year so if dept needs the money, might be something to consider
Ya think. If USC would schedule the Beavs, you take the money and roll the dice. Not gonna happen so nothing to worry about
Pac12 still has to decide if theyll play an 8 or 9 game conference schedule. Theyre waiting for the CFP qualufying rules for 2026 to make that call ao they can be best positioned to have a team get in
It has to be 8, if they play someone twice to get to 9 it will be comically stupid.
Stop building for the CFP, it’s an impossible task.
Agree, I’m guessing they’re also weighing if they should play a conf championship game or not. Gould thinks the Pac12 champ will be a playoff participant most years. Of course she’s being optimistic, but considering we dont have a voice in the selection criteria, the deck is heavily stacked against the G5 teams. Tulane and James Madison didnt help the G5 argument this year.
Even with 8 that means rematches, should only be 7 conference games. But my larger point is the conference should focus on what’s best for itself and let the CFP chips fall where they may.
7 conference games offers freedom to schedule up or down.
I’d do a conference championship at the top teams home field either way but I find them fun so admit my bias.
Ultimately getting a team in the CFP is gonna be on the schools themselves. I know Indiana and Texas Tech are P4 but they’re in the CFP because of NIL cash. Whichever PAC school(s) figures that out can get there consistently and probably even advance sometimes.
Getting into the CFP is what’s best for the conference if they want to be financially viable. Playoff teams would get a 50% cut of a CFP share and the other teams would divide up the leftovers. There just simply no other bowl payout that compares anymore, and that money is a lifeline for a conference that doesn’t have much in the way if media revenue.
But the conference has no real power to get teams into the playoff. It’s gonna be up to the individual schools to do that.
The PAC needs 2 schools to clearly separate themselves from the other 6. That’s the only way they consistently get playoff teams. By having 1-2 teams that can go 11-1 or 12-0 most years.
There’s no magic schedule that’s gonna make a 10-2 or 9-3 PAC school CFP worthy. So worrying about how many conferences games you play is silly. And any more than 7 is ridiculous.
Whatever, once they announce they are playing WSU twice again I’ll just tune out. That will be the final straw for me.
Fuck USC with a barbed stick!
Let them schedule Sac State.
WSU dominating Utah State in total, rushing, and pass yards, but also threw 3 picks, leading by 13 with about 5 minutes to play…
I tried to listen to a Canzano interview with Barnes, but Barnes was not very direct, and so I started tuning out before just selecting something else to listen to, but:
Canzano pointed out that Shepard did not get a deal in the upper tier of PAC coaches as Barnes had apparently said the next OSU coach would. Barnes said something to the effect that they successfully negotiated a salary with their preferred coach, and got him, and that Shepard was successful in getting the assistants he targeted, and they had to be responsible with their resources.
Talking about a pool of money for coaches, a GM, and players (I think he said it included players – maybe somebody else listened to it and can correct me), Canzano said the WSU AD said a PAC school needed at least $7-8MM, and Canzano asked Barnes if he agreed. Barnes obfuscated again, saying it changes, and they need to try and keep up with it.
If OSU is spending that little on coaches, GM, and players combined, its no wonder they’re so far behind schools like UO, Ohio State, Texas Tech, who spend upwards of $40M+ for such a pool. I guess that’s why ASU’s head coach was begging for a $20M check….
I tried to listen also but got tired of his voice pretty quickly too. The part about the salary pool for the program he made it sound like all programs have a similarly sized pool of dollars to draw from for their program and since we saved so much on the hiring of coaches, we’ll have more funds to cover all otjer expenses.
But in my head, all I hear is him saying we couldnt pay our coaches more because Barnes’ salary far exceeds ADs in other Pac12 programs.
So we’ve already decided that competing in the new PAC is too expensive. That’s how I read that. Oh well, predictable. At least I hate just about everything I’m hearing about the new conference so it’ll be easy to not care.
Agree with you on all of this comment. Barnes is the problem.
What became of the steely eyed, clenched jaw warrior we knew boasting about lawsuits and the consequences coming for those who abandoned OSU? What of the promises to continue to spend on higher levels to stay relevant, trend to top 3 of the new conference etc? Barnes is a marketing department nightmare, and he is a walking talking hypocrite when it comes to OSU financials.
If his goal is to alienate more OSU fans with each interview, he is pretty successful at that. He can’t be transparent about what is happening internally at OSU because it would probably mean he would be fired. It almost seems like he wants to be named PAC12 commish and get all of the accolades for saving the conference, while actually letting OSU become a sinking ship on his watch.
I’m fully the Fire Barnes/Fire Tinkle train…
When alumni can’t struggle to listen to him, tune him out, and turn it off, that’s a problem.
He shouldn’t have agreed to the interview. Silence would be better than saying “We’re going to do things on the cheap.”
*can’t listen to him or struggle to listen to him
We don’t know how much the assistant pool is. And if Shephard got who he wants as assistants, doe it even matter?
I like the Shephard hire, and if he’s a bargain, I don’t see why I need to get my panties in a wad. Are you all screaming at the cashier because you get a discount off list price at the register? Because that’s what you’re doing here. You’re running with some highly stupid Clownzano narrative made of chewing gum and pocket lint.
Beavs pick up a JUCO Nickle back tonight.
Apparently the top JUCO NB in country according to his HS coach.
https://x.com/i/status/2003324091932307761
That’s like being the top JUCO “sixth man” in the country. If he was that great, why didn’t he start?
Meikle sp? In portal
Zakaih Saez
Taz Reddicks
Shamar Meikle
All headed to the portal. Only 9 so far.
All the receivers but Freuhauf, and Durant can go. A lot of guys weren’t very productive, and it is very difficult to know if it was a result of horrendous coaching or lack of effort.
I mean that could be said about every position group honestly. More unique are the outliers who actually performed at a high level.
Merry Christmas fellas.
New general thread up, ya’ll.