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Dominoes Falling: Recruits Decommit

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Within the past 15 minutes, the Beavs lost Treshon Broughton and Jesse Sims.

Expect more to come.

Beavs better move fast and smart once the 5 day hiring period ends.

For Those Who Want Beau Baldwin…

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Read this article.

Some key points:

Since 2004, 18 FCS, Division II or high school head coaches have been hired as the head coach of an FBS program. At their previous stop, those coaches compiled a combined record of 744-347, with a winning percentage of .682.

Promising resumes, however, have not always yielded continued success at a higher plateau. At their first — and sometimes only — FBS head coaching stop, that combined record dipped to 225-375 (.375).

So how are some of these coaches so successful at the FCS level?

“We had a lot of FBS-type players on an FCS football field. That’s why we were able to do some of the things we were able to do”

They landed more  “men amongst boys” than the opponent and dominated.  This explains why when they get to the D1 level most collapse.

Regarding Baldwin, I wrote this in the last thread:

Researching Baldwin since I think that’s who BDCheapskate will hire.

Some Baldwin clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vv7AuHQmdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELHqiamNw5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3XYaffu00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKr-5p3sb64

His philosophy here is pretty smart. But I’m skeptical still…defenses have some ugly numbers, and I’m not sure how this attitude will work vs the wolves in the Pac-12.

Jack what is your take on this guy? I feel like he’d be perceived as a dud hire. But I like what he’s saying about the mental part of the game. That’s refreshing. Bad defenses, though and sounds like a player’s coach.

He’s definitely more mentally in-tune than Riley. Seems to stress psychology. I do like that part. Media was saying he’s a lot like Riley, but I don’t see that, either. I’m warming up to him.

My guess is that he recruited more D1 type players to his offense (we know Vernon Adams is a tweener/possible D1 QB, for example). So the offense humming along churning out wins. The defense, however, always looks poor.

While I like Baldwin in those clips, the reality is this: knowing the above how poorly coaches make this transition and why, do you want to take a shot on a guy like? Some people, like Lindsay Schnell,  just look at his record and offensive stats and don’t ask why. Those people love Baldwin.

Oregon State Moving Too Slow

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I get it, they were caught off guard.

But the coaching carousel is moving, recruits are anxious, and not a peep yet from OSU about where they are in the process?

Mamma Machado reporting she can’t get a peep from anyone and gag order in place. Typical OSU.

Think Riley Left to Help OSU?

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He knew his contract was an albatross.  One thing we know is the guy genuinely loved OSU (due to his father, him painting the stadium growing up, etc). Starting to think he realized the contract had become a burden, he still wanted to get paid a few more years, and there was no way for OSU to buy him out. Is it possible he consciously yet cryptically handed OSU a gift? I.e instead of saddling OSU with his buyout; he went to someplace he cares nothing about, and is having them pay it? Just an idea.

I’m sure a lot of the other stuff we speculated is true, but I think this maybe factored in.

Then again, maybe not. This from Eggers:

On Monday, before he left to recruit in California, Riley had a
meeting with De Carolis. One source said it was just the two of them. A
second source said President Ed Ray was also on hand.

“Something happened in that meeting,” the first OSU staffer says. “That’s when it changed.”

Athird source — who had not talked directly to Riley, but had spoken
with someone who had — says while De Carolis had no intention of firing
Riley, the athletic director pulled back on his support in some way. It
may have been that De Carolis wanted more control and influence on what
Riley felt should be his decisions. It may have been De Carolis wanted
Riley to give back some of the seven years left on his contract. It may
have been De Carolis didn’t want to extend the contracts of assistant
coaches beyond next year.

So Riley left for California with mixed emotions about his future at Oregon State.

{and then skipping a few quotes and such to get to the “time line” type stuff…}

Riley was to have headed to Hawaii for another recruiting trip on
Thursday. Instead, he returned to Corvallis Wednesday night. On Thursday
morning, he was no longer the Beavers’ coach.

Definitely Do NOT Hire These Coaches

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1. Jack Del Rio — classic value trap. NFL success and a big name make him alluring, but you do not want to get involved with a father-son relationship when we don’t know if the son can play. Luke Del Rio has looked awful in limited time. With Jack there, he likely wins the job. We don’t want another incestuous relationship.

2. Brady Hoke — Basically the guy is Riley reincarnated. Look at his record and temperament. He just finished ruining a prestigious Michigan program. Also, would anyone be excited?

3. Ed Orgeron — 3-21 conference record. Horrible coach. I don’t care if he can recruit.

4. June Jones — this can’t even be serious…?

5. Dennis Erickson — ^ see above.

We need an exciting hire. This doesn’t necessarily mean a young guy. Bronco Mendenhall, for example, is older and would bring excitement. But these guys would not. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

If people don’t believe me, was I right on Riley? Yes I was. I would be right on these guys, too.  Very disappointed with some of the names gaining steam.