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Oregon State @ Hawaii (Game Thread)

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Go Beavs.

I’m going with a cautiously optimistic Beav victory.

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Beavs vs Hawaii (Pregame)

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Super busy, but this will act as a placeholder for now.

Hopefully I can write up something later. If any of the other mods want to write a preview of the game please do so.

Beav’s Bystander Effect Defense

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Something I noticed during the game, and that I mentioned in the prior thread:

Beavs have a mental problem where they think hanging around in a game for a few quarters is good enough. They’ve had this forever. It’s something institutional and systemic. I could see the defenders lacking desire and instead looking around for someone else to make a play. It’s very disturbing because it’s ingrained and therefore harder to fix than talent problems.

This led me to conclude the Beav’s D is running on the “Bystander Effect.”

What Is the Bystander Effect?

The bystander effect occurs when the presence of others discourages an individual from intervening in an emergency situation. The greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is for any one of them to provide help to a person in distress. People are more likely to take action in a crisis when there are few or no other witnesses present.Social psychologists Bibb Latané and John Darley popularized the concept of the bystander effect following the infamous 1964 Kitty Genovese murder in New York City. As 28-year-old Genovese was stabbed to death outside her apartment, neighbors failed to step in to assist or call the police. Latané and Darley attributed the bystander effect to the perceived diffusion of responsibility (onlookers are less likely to intervene if there are other witnesses who seem likely to do so) and social influence (individuals monitor the behavior of those around them to determine how to act). […] Some efforts have been made, including on college campuses, to encourage people to be “active bystanders” and fight the urge to step aside when someone is in trouble.Smith seems a bit obsessed with recruiting “intelligent” players, but that trait seems linked, at least in the Beav’s case, to passivity. Some of that could be regional recruiting, too. California and Oregon tend to produce “laid back” players. The Beavs best teams of late have come from dipping into Texas (Rodgers, et al) and other regions known for less passive players.

To me, the only solutions to this defensive conundrum are (a) someone on the current D has the insight to realize all this and steps up to lead instead of follow or (b) the Beav’s coaching staff actively seeks out and recruits psychopaths on defense. Psychopaths don’t care what the person next to them is doing; they go out and do what they want, when they want, and everything is fair game. The latter is the more likely way out of this. A passive person who is a natural follower or bystander is going to be difficult to change.

The Beavers essentially run a Kitty Genovese defense. We need a Ted Bundy defense.

Oklahoma State @ Oregon State (Game Thread)

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Go Beavs.

I’ll be gone the entire game, unfortunately, so no in-game commentary or analysis, but will try to catch it on YouTube tomorrow morning and give thoughts then.

P.S. Go Luton!

Oklahoma State @ Oregon State

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It’s been hard finding good previews or research about this game. If you’ve found good research on this game share it in the comments below so we can all get a better feel for it.

From what I can gather, it seems like the Cowboys weakness is their D-line. I’m not sure if it’s actually a weakness, or they have talented players who just lack game experience. There’s a difference. They’ll be playing some freshman. I’m not sure what to make of it, and I’m not going to watch film on Cowboy players to see how good these guys are. So generally speaking, this seems like an area the Beavs can exploit with Jefferson. The Cowboys run a 4-2-5, so maybe that negates some of this advantage in that they won’t have to have a lot of LB rotation. And the corners/secondary are their strength, so maybe they just move a DB up to the line and try to stop Jefferson that way. That seems like the best plan.

Luton should get some opportunities if that’s the case. Play action should be effective (if Luton can pull it off…he has poor play action mechanics and doesn’t sell it well).

To me the game comes down to three factors:

– Can Jefferson et al get things going early? The RB unit needs a fast start to soften things up and make the Cowboys start questioning themselves. If they bring a safety up to the line early to try and stop this, the Beavs should consider some trick plays, end arounds, or deep play action. Also, look for which line is getting push on the first drives, and that should tell you who will win the game. I find this method about 90% accurate in predicting the final outcome in the first minutes.

– Can the Beavs D slow down Oklahoma State? Again, look at line push. From the sound of things, it sounds like the D still isn’t getting much passing pressure in camp. I expect the OkSt QB to have plenty of time to find open receivers. I’m not convinced our run D will be much better. The home atmosphere should help with an adrenaline rush early on, and you have to hope the Beavs capitalize on that with a turnover and some points before the high wears off.

– Can Luton beat the secondary? From the reports, the Cowboy secondary is their strength. For all the talk about Luton lately, we should get a good glimpse early on whether the “game has slowed” for him and he can beat a strong secondary. Point 1 above with Jefferson, the 4-2-5, and how OkSt uses their safeties will factor into Luton’s opportunities. Should be some shots at big plays via play action, though, given the LB issues for OkSt and that they might cheat a safety. I’m expecting 300 yards, 3TDs, 2INTs, and a fumble from Luton. If we get something better than that, we should at least cover the spread.

That’s where I’d leave it. Beavs +15.5 at home vs a rebuilding D seems like you take the points. Whether they can win the game? I have no idea. My gut says no chance. It’s not the type of game we’ve ever won in recent history, and I don’t see this D or Luton being the guys to break that string. It would be pretty awesome to be wrong.

Oklahoma State 42, Oregon State 30.