Since there isn’t much to criticize with OSU right now, maybe it’s a good time to self-assess/criticize ourselves. Are the Pollys right and we’re just a bunch of negative Nancys around here?
Are you a negative person? Take this quiz to find out.
PS. I find the Ghandi quote funny.
A man is but the product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes.
Does this mean Riley has self-esteem issues and thinks he’s mediocre? Hey the positive there is that he’d be right about something!
By Ghandi’s reasoning I should be a female porn start right about now.
So you’re thinking about gobbling dicks?
Oops, stepped into that one! Oh well.
That’s pretty funny.
Sorry, couldn’t resist resist ;)
If I could give you a 10+ Blazer I would. Outstanding!
That means alot coming from the master. Thank you, sir
“Master” of his domain.
Bahaha
saw this on an o-live chat where Connor was asked about newcomers on the football team:
@dpupdx Kyle Peko, who is on track to pass his English class (grades come out in the next few days), should be a difference maker on the DLine. I expect him to start at tackle. As far as newcomers go, Jalen Grimble should also be a DLine starter. And juco transfer Demarlon Morris could work his way into the rotation at CB.
So Peko is still working on that damn English class, but at least it sounds positive…
That must be one bitchin’ class. Thank god I didn’t take it.
Angry, this is a the Poly vs Nancy in a nutshell.
Nancy……….no way he passes and is eligible.
Polly………….he is a sure fire starter and we have quality depth on the D line finally.
Color me Nancy on this one. We have seen this movie before.
Even if Peko passes and is eligible and is a surefire starter, I wouldn’t say we have quality depth on the D line.
We’d have quality depth at the D Tackle position….but D End is still a huge question mark. Wynn is a decent player but not elite, especially as a pass rusher. Beyond him, who knows? Probably the biggest concern across the whole defense, actually.
Peko has been studying English since the Iliad was first published.
Hilarious!
Hmm – I think the Iliad and the Odyssey were first published in Greek – your sentence doesn’t that’s what he was studying – only that he has been studying English since they were published; in which case English was far from today’s Twitter version. Perhaps that explains his difficulties but I truly hope he passes and not just for our selfish interest of making it onto the football team.
Jesus, he must be dumb as a post. How LONG has he been trying to pass said English class. Judging by some of his twatter posts it isn’t hard to see why he doesn’t grasp the English language.
The term just finished today. Grades probably aren’t in yet.
I found the subtext of “See Spot Run” difficult to pick up at first also. Let’s have some empathy for Peko. I also found Jane to be a distraction. I’m rooting for him to pass!
Don’t worry- if he doesn’t pass this time there’s always fall term! He can join the team in winter ’15…or spring ’15….or fall camp ’15…!
Jane, you ignorant slut.
Your quiz link is broke, need to add http://
http://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newTCS_89.htm
Also saw this. I like the sound of Tinkle and Thompson’s kids coming to OSU, so I really hope they can work with their current constraints and maintain spots for those guys in 2015.
Kphil66 1 hour ago
Recruits are signing with other schools for basketball. What is left out there? What does coach Tinkl and staff see as needs by position? Are there any they are persuing? We still have at least two scholarships left with coaching staff pretty much picked now we need players.
From Connor:
As you can see, there aren’t many fifth-year options available who could make an immediate impact at the Pac-12 level. I’ll have a more in-depth piece on the staff’s approach to recruiting in the coming days, but I can tell you this now: Tinkle is walking a fine line. He wants to bring in as much talent as possible for next season, but he also wants to make sure they have scholarships available for 2015 (given that two top 100 recruits are coaches’ sons). At this point, the Beavers have no returning seniors, so there won’t be any available scholarships in 2015 unless he brings in fifth-year guys or saves scholarships.
Not Tinkle’s fault that he has to “walk a fine line”. It’s going to take some time to get CR’s pending disaster straightened out. I always thought Connor was a bit of a Robinson apologist anyway.
Buncha negative Nancy’s around here.
When does the Athletic Dept. start selling tickets to away games for football?
Per tweets, ” UC Santa Barbara athletic director Mark Massari will be stepping down next week to take a position at Oregon State”
Any insight into this?
Found this: “June 13th, 2014— Sources tell College AD that UC Santa Barbara athletic director Mark Massari will be stepping down next week to take a position at Oregon State University. We hear that Massari will be taking the senior associate ad for development position which was vacated by Shawn Heilbron last month when he departed for the ad position at Stony Brook University. We cannot confirm the exact position Massari will fill at this point. Massari has been the athletic director for UC Santa Barbara since August 2008, when Chancellor Henry Yang appointed him. We are told the official announcement from UC Santa Barbara is set for Wednesday, June 18th.”
That came out a while ago. It seems curious that he would go from being the guy to return to a secondary position unless there is a back door deal that he takes over from BDC in the next couple years. One can hope.
agreed
I think this site can be critical for the sake of being critical at times. Just look at the last post where you criticized Tinkle for “nepotism” for his hires when all I had been able to find online were good things about those guys. How many head coaches hire random people to be on their staff?
So on the topic of football, I made an interesting observation the other day. As of now, our projected defensive depth chart has a whopping 8 out of 11 starting positions manned by seniors. That’s not including Delva, who likely sees a lot of time on the D-line rotation.
If even a few of those guys experience the classic Riley senior year breakthrough, we could be looking at a very good defense. Murphy becomes great, Zimmerman becomes servicable…etc. On the other hand, the D was pretty atrocious in 2013, and this does not bode well at all for 2015.
Bottom line, we will really need our defense with our O-line in its current condition…Will Hopkins at starting LT? Maybe Dad really does have Riley’s ear!
Zimmerman becomes serviceable? That statement really did make me laugh. I don’t see how that’s possible. Dude grasped for more air last fall than anyone in football history. He’s a flailbacker. Should not see the field. Ever.
So soon you’ve forgotten Pankey?
Zimmerman was bad last year. The weakest link on a mostly bad defense. But he wasn’t atrocious. And – unlike Pankey – he has the physical tools to be a great safety. Hard work and coaching could push him over the edge. That’s why I listed him as a possible senior yr breakthrough candidate.
Am I convinced it’ll happen? No, but upgrading to serviceable is a reasonable possibility in my estimation. We’ll know by the first couple games whether he’s taken that step or not. If not, there’s some good depth behind him and I hope we see them.
we’ve had many flailbackers over the years. Thanks for the horrible reminder about Pankey
Where did Zimmerman rank on Beavers in total tackles and assists? Where did he rank in total downs played? Where did he rank in passes defended and or passes broken up? Style points, try women’s gymnastics.
I am NOT Negative!!! NO NO NO!! Nein, mein Furor!!
NO NO NO!! No my anger? JB
Anybody else hear about Blair Cavanaugh leaving for PSU ? Hope he leaves the play book if its true…
So much for the family thang…….
No, hadn’t heard/seen that, but good for him. I always thought PSU would have been a good choice for him, was a bit surprised that he would try the walk on approach at OSU.
I get it if it’s his dream school with the reality he may never start, family etc , but he doesn’t look like a Pac 12 receiver. He was a gutsy competitor at CHS and that gave him an edge at the HS level.
Of course riding the pine behind Hands of Stone/Boom and such has to be a kick to the ego. Hope he does well at PSU.
The more stories I read about Tinkle, his coaches, their sons, and recruiting players to play with their sons, the more positively I view the Robinson firing and Tinkle hiring.
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1650508
Can I get a hip hip hooray for family atmosphere?!!!
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1650508
Not a huge surprise
Danny Moran (@DannyJMoran) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Sat, Jun 14, 2014:
Just spoke to Christian Martinek, who said he will no longer play football at Oregon State. He’ll focus on baseball. #opreps
(https://twitter.com/DannyJMoran/status/477888852502142977)
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Hopefully the next Wetzler or Fry.
Seeing lots of twitter chatter about today’s OSU graduation and how some Duck douche is flying his plane overhead with a “Go Ducks” banner, doing laps around OSU’s grad ceremony. Douche move.
Oh come on, that’s funny! Typical rivalry stuff. It shows there’s still some passion despite them beating us inhe civil war for the last 47 years straight.
No, it isn’t. There’s a time and place for that shit, graduation is not one of them. Do you think those that just spent at least 4 years at OSU deserved to have their graduation ceremony attempted to be ruined by some douchebag with their families present? Wanna do that at a sporting event? go for it. Graduation? No. But what do you expect from a gang raping, laptop stealin, weed smokin while rolling down I-5 at 118 mph university graduates. I guess I’m more appalled at the comments I’ve been seeing from duck fans condoning said act. If someone from OSU had done the same at Oregon’s graduation ceremony, I wouldn’t feel any different. Disrespectful and low class.
Yes, it is.
http://blogphotos.theworldrace.org/theworldrace/deborahjones/Grumpy-cat-no1.jpg
http://democratherald.com/news/local/graduating-beavers-drown-out-lone-duck-s-drone/article_907dde21-ba08-55ac-93bf-9a97c95c82b0.html
Our new WR tranfer, Dockery got tatted up for the season. Seems like he thinks he’s playing for the team down south. Also, why the fuck would you do this to yourself? It is permanent, right?
nes manaea (@tOWNBIDNESink) tweeted at 0:48 PM on Sat, Jun 14, 2014:
My uce @RahmelDockery gonna be flyin at OSU next season #Townbidnesink GET AT ME http://t.co/cJbAFz8xQl
(https://twitter.com/tOWNBIDNESink/status/477900384632311809)
I guess we call him Mercury now?
I’ve seen much worse on kids his age.
Eaters send Texas to the losers side. Behind 1-0 they scored 3 in the 8th to win 3-1.
watched it and love it. Fuck Texass
Well said.
That’s a lot of CWS experience between Gillespie and Garrido.
Sad news… it seems like only a couple months ago we were watching him coach.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Tony-Gwynn-Dies-San-Diego-Padres-Baseball-Great–263296261.html
Had not heard about that. He was a true class act and a great hitter.
That’s two greats in a week… gone too early. I saw this a couple days ago. It’s a great read.
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2014/6/13/5804568/bob-welch-death-remembrance
I was at that shutout where he hit the home run to win a 1-0 game. That was Johnny Bench’s last game at Chavez.
Make that three greats..
http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Casey-Kasem-He-kept-reaching-for-the-stars-5553898.php
Sounds like he has ……had the dysfunctional family from hell.
OT – Former #1 recruit QB Jake Heaps now on third school, transferring to MIami:
http://tracking.si.com/2014/06/15/jake-heaps-transferring-to-miami-quarterback-recruit-kansas-byu/
Another reminder of how speculative (surprise!) are talent evaluation and recruiting rankings. Hard to believe 4 years ago he was #1, and now he’s a free agent college student, going to his third school in search of playing time.
Shocking that the great Charlie Weis did not turn him into the second coming of Tom Brady.
actually, it’s Heaps’ 4th. He was a UW recruit but never played before he went to BYU, then KU, now the U.
Moreland and Nelson both working out for the GS Warriors today, leading up to the NBA Draft
https://twitter.com/diamond83/status/478258242280099840
“Greater Shanghai” Warriors are not a bad CBA team. I wish “the matador” and “the toker” much luck overseas!
US up on Ghana 1-0 at the half.
In Jim Rome’s words, that’s a total bloodbath in soccer, and I agree. Just like hockey, they need to simply expand the goal size to raise scores and actually make it more exciting than paint drying. Otherwise both sports have all the elements I like.
All they would have to do is eliminate the offside rule. It would really open up the game.
I’d watch soccer if the players were allowed knives and could knife each other during the games! Think about it. This new evolved soccer would be a big hit in the inner cities!
Or how about this…every player carries a purple flag. If a player flops a player from the opposite team can throw the purple “flop challenge flag”. They use instant replay to determine if the flop was legit or not. If it was a flop, time is called and the flopper and the flagger face off and brawl for 30 seconds. If it wasn’t a flop the flagger has to turn around and close his eyes and wait for the wrongly accused flopper to kick him in the junk from behind.
I’d watch that shit.
Roshambo
Yeah… because when I’m running full speed and get hit by another guy running full speed and just colliding into me… at full speed… or when he just kicks my legs out from under me… it doesn’t hurt one bit.
Those guys are such fakers!
Maybe we should all subject ourselves to someone who kicks something really hard for a living so they can kick us. Then we’ll see who the real floppers are.
Rome is an idiot in sports that he never cared about anyway… which is most of them.
NHL hockey needs to lose the red line and auto icing and start enforcing strict penalties and suspensions for fighting. I refuse to watch their product because they refuse to lose the goons… and two-line passes.
Those rules alone would increase scoring exponentially… well… logarithmically.
2 line passes have been legal since 2005.
http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/cba/rules_changes072205.html
Spending all that time in your momma’s basement I would figure you would know the basic rules before blasting away.
That shows you how long it’s been since I’ve watched Goons R Us.
That change must have occurred when the NHL was sold for two bucks and a bottle of wine? The new owners are smart.
I will say I have a knee-jerk reaction to NHL hockey because of fighting. I have watched zero games over the last three years. I’ve watched a couple hundred college hockey games over the same period. My allegiance to any sport would suffer such slings if it chose to allow disruptions to the game while grown men act like children… misbehaving children.
Rome may be an idiot about sports he doesn’t care about (which just means he doesn’t waste his time), but the point is valid.
Which point?
That Rome doesn’t care about a lot of sports? That he only chases popularity in his selected viewer/listener demographic?
Agreed.
I don’t understand this mentality because I’m competitive at everything. I hated losing at spelling bees even though I never won one. I hated losing at math or science competitions, and I won some of those. I want to win always. I don’t care if it’s some game I don’t know. The competition is the thing.
I want to understand the “science” behind it all in order to win it all. I don’t give up because I don’t understand. I don’t give up because I’m not the greatest. I just don’t give up.
I don’t understand why most Americans do give up in most of those instances. I attribute it to the failure of education, but that can’t be all of it.
Can it?
The facetious point of 1-0 being a blowout.
We quit because we don’t care.
Precisely!
I love a 1-0 game in baseball more than anything. I don’t know where you got the blowout part, but the extreme tension while rooting for your team to win when it can all be turned on its head in a moment is just spectacular to me. You can wait eons for that to happen in sports where “momentum” is a catch phrase. Hell… you can wait eons for “momentum” to come your way.
Sport is sport. If you don’t like one for reasons unbeknownst to anyone even after you voice your opinion of it, then I just think you don’t like sport.
The corollary to that would be that I just think you like winning.
I don’t subscribe to that view in sport. I like winning and want to do it always. But I also want to do so in everything. The game is the joy, and I expect my teams to participate as if they believe the same.
Look, if I wanted to see a guy try in vain to score for 90 minutes I’d take my friend to the local bar.
And you haven’t done so many times?
Every time. I have no game in a bar or on a soccer field.
“What are you talking about Chrissy?”
But you have major game with hops and malted barley Jason. And in the grand scheme, is there anything better than that?
Nice tie in to my next problem BG. Widmer selected my pilsner to make and serve at an upcoming Timbers game. The upside, Widmer’s making my beer. The downside? I have to watch a soccer game.
Actually I’m sure timbers matches are fun as hell live.
Is it National Pretend You Care About Soccer Day already?
hilarious
So true. Kind of embarrassing people are rejoicing over beating Ghana. Ghana?!
Well, they did beat the US in two previous WC games.
Well, it is the World Cup. I don’t watch soccer/football long-term, but I like it because 1) you see kids in all countries playing it in any open space they can find with anything resembling a ball and 2) the crowd sings at the matches.
Now that the Stanley Trophy Tournament is over, we have to just wait out one more alternative sport before Sportscenter returns to normal.
Here’s to a speedy conclusion to the World Soccer Ball Invitational.
I wonder if the FEEFA has a suggestion box? I’d like to see the stadium built three fields wide, two fields deep. We could cut this baby down to a week or two.
agreed. soccer = boooooooooring
As opposed to football… which has so much action it can be edited to fill 30 minutes of live time?
as opposed to watching paint dry, grass grow or cars rust. ALL are more exciting than the shitty sport of soccer
So comparatively you’re saying that football is extreme boredom?
If constant non-stop play is boring, how do you think most of us feel while watching a bunch of fat huffers bending over for 20 seconds while some guy (whose only redeeming physical attribute is that he can throw an oblate spheroid) looks over at the sideline waiting for some cheeseburger gut to tell him to hand off for a dive play that goes for a yard?
… and I love football. It’s just excruciatingly painful enduring the wasted four hours of my life waiting for the game to be played… while I’m watching it. And watching a game where they play “up-tempo” makes it worse by about 25%. That’s how counter-intuitive the sport is.
On the flip side, I love the Pac 12 format for replays of games in one hour. Whomever thought that one up is brilliant.
This is why god invented Tivo.
This is why man invented god.
Now we’re on the same page.
Louisville the first to be eliminated at the CWS. Eaters get a bases loaded DP to end the inning but Vandy scores 2 in the t1.
Eaters tie it up in the second on a squeeze play. I think we’ve seen that before. And takes a 4-2 lead on a two out single.
Go eaters (tepidly)
American football, alternative sport of wussies. 12 minutes of action in a 48 minute game. 4 minute tv timeouts galore. Oxygen on sideline. Three hundred pound slobs that can’t run. Endless substitutions due to lack of conditioning. Drama queen wide receivers who pout and act. Prissy quarterbacks that can hardly be touched. Six to ten lawyers err officials. Rules against everything, more regulations than EPA. Coaches that can call timeouts from sidelines while not officially participating in game. Numerous advisors, specialists, gurus and sycophants.Endless lobbying akin to a UN convention. Fake bowl system where everyone gets a trophy or trip to Hawaii for finishing 6-6. Excitingggggggggg!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC-H2wXK4T4
those are pussies
Soccer divers are bad no doubt. They are comparable to Blake Griffin and Dwayne Wade. Basketball is where , as a star, you are subject to only some of the basic rules. Baseball has its theater, and method acting, as we’ll its juvenile respect/disrespect, can’t show me up culture. Outrage from players/fans when the opposing pitcher spikes the ball is about as interesting as watching a dog pee on a fire hydrant, your fire hydrant.
If you can run, go out for track.
If you’re tough play rugby or football.
If you’re neither, play soccer with the girls.
You mean those football players who lie there and writhe in pain when someone trips them?
Yeah… they’re tough.
Maybe there’s a rule against that in football because it’s so egregious it can hurt someone. Maybe that happens so often in soccer that you’re just immune to it?
Here’s the deal. You name me one football player who can play a whole game of soccer on the professional level anywhere and do it well.
Hell… give me ten who can do it poorly.
You can find better athletes in the NFL than you can in professional soccer.
Adrian Peterson
Darrel Revis
Richard Sherman
Calvin Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Brandin Cooks
etc…
I’ll take the last two as maybes for soccer. Their mentalities, work ethics, physical abilities and conditioning might lead to someone who can play a whole game… on the college level.
I’m not sure what you think is a “better” athlete. I think Ashton Eaton is a better athlete than anyone who plays any sport. But then I rate his abilities in measurable quantities. I’ve not had the chance to see those you’ve listed attempt to better him at those measurable quantities.
For a comparison, I challenge you to take each of those athletes and make them play the position of each of the others on the list. How many of them would be elite at each position?
‘Athletic ability’ may be considered subjective for some people, but I would suggest that a standardized test to determine athletic ability would be a useful tool. SPARQ training for example seems like a reasonable tool to measure athletic ability.
Ashton Eaton is the guy that runs long distance right? Though his ability is nothing to sneeze at, that sport doesn’t requrie the skill set and athletic ability that guys like Adrian Peterson, Lebron James, Jacoby Ellsbury, or any other skill position player in baseball, football, or basketball do have.
Speed, endurance, agility, strength, coordination, leaping ability….anything else? Skill position football players demonstrate those skills at a much higher level than soccer players.
Go ahead and google Eaton and get back to me on what you think he needs to do to “test” his athleticism.
And except for strength, you would be completely incorrect on average for all traits, searching for a couple outstanding NFLers to make even a small sample which would beat the average soccer player on agility and coordination and without any outstanding NFLer who can pretend to keep up on endurance.
You could make more of an argument for selective hoopsters, but even they have become soft over the years with all the perimeter shooting and endless amounts of stoppages in play.
Richard Sherman?? Brandin Cooks????
You might as well be comparing 100m sprinter with 3k steeplechase athletes. Both have great athletes competing, but I doubt Usain Bolt is going to be competitive in the steeplechase, so why compare them?
I wouldn’t put it past Bolt to train for three months then become a viable competitor in the long events. It doesn’t work the other way around, but those distance runners have NFL speed in short bursts. They just don’t have world class speed.
Remember a couple years ago when everyone in the US was talking about Chris Johnson being Bolt’s equal? Remember how that turned out to be a race between the two?
Yeah… it was such a stupid topic his agent allowed that event to happen. T&F guys can find a niche in football. Football guys can’t hide from the clock (or tape) in T&F. There are exceptions to everything, but they are very rare.
Probably all except for most linemen. And some of them might well be better than any soccor player alive.
Whyt? Because they would do their conditioning differently. You are basically saying that a football player can only be conditioned to play football……just aint so.
And…..the fact is, it is soccor players who are suspect as athletes, since they are required to show no real use of their arms and hands. And…maybe NO soccor players would be able to play Pro Football.
Sports are very different in the talent required. Soccor — run and kick a ball, basically just footwork. Baseball — all kinds of hand-eye coordination.
So “athletics” runs from “sports” that require almost no skills or coordination (like marathon running) to ones that very few can ever master. Some require a lot of muscle, some dont.
Really its all apples and oranges, but it is certainly not right to see soccor as any superior-athlete sport. One of the BIG reasons its so popular, is that almost ANYONE can do it.. All you need is working legs and a space to kick a ball in.
Your definition of being an athlete is devoid of anything quantitative. I have zero doubt that any pro soccer player could not find success in the NFL precisely because football is so specialized. Hell, all it takes is for them to recognize the ball in flight and either catch it or knock it down.
There are many pro soccer players who would not qualify as the greatest athletes out there in my eyes also. But I believe more of them would quantitatively succeed than would players from the NFL.
Soccer takes a lot more time to develop the skill set than football. You see in football all the time teams taking chances on players who don’t have the skill, but have the athleticism, you just don’t see that in soccer very often. I think if you were to take a pro soccer player and a pro football player (excluding kickers) soccer players would be quicker to pick up the game of football, than the pro football players.
I view the World Cup the same as I do the Olympics. I’ll get really into it when they come around, but I care just as much about soccer as I do swimming or gymnastics during the off years. But today was a lot of fun.
Well… yeah? The World Cup and the Olympics both come up every four years. So I get excited about each every four years.
And both are the cream of the crop in the whole of the world. We’re not talking about lower level competition here. We don’t have professionals competing in the US on a broad basis in Olympic sports anymore. That lack of visibility correlates with the lack of excitement from US viewers. Imagine if we played those sports on TV as much as… oh… golf… or the X-games.
People in the US like and understand what they see. What they see is a product of marketing.
Btw… this argument extends to sports which were once great. I think boxing was a great watch for everyone in the US until they started PPV matches. They took a great sport and made it exclusive. The sport dropped off a cliff after it exhausted the talent drawn to it before they became exclusive.
Now you can pick your champions from among those from countries other than the US. Since those champions are not from the US, the US is not interested. Promoters really did kill their own sport for short term gain.
Same here.. I dont know a thing about gymnastics but I’ll watch that shit during the Olympics.. Soccer is probably just a little more entertaining than Gymnastics and non bikini Volleyball though.
When they do score its usual pretty damm cool..
In 2014, the Beavers and followers are celebrating attention to detail, several years after football coaches in America borrowed the concepts from Marcelo Bielsa and other soccer theorists and coaches. In terms of on field play, popular American sports like football, basketball and baseball are more technically advanced. In terms of analytics, statistiical measurement and game theory, soccer is more advanced. American football fans are like the bud drinker who taste Pliny the Elder for the first time. They have no clue what they are tasting since they have been brainwashed to accept “breaking the plane” as a valid concept, and only understand chemically altered beer.
Trooooolllllll!!!
Saw the best bumper sticker today:
“So… technically alcohol IS a solution.”
My first thought:
LOL… that guy never gets pulled over.
Oh… and not only is soccer more advanced than football. It’s also more popular with the younger crowd.
We’ve talked about the death of football for a while. But it’s coming sooner than anyone can predict. Think about this. Fogeys who made a mint off public schooling and had to pay nothing for said schooling (or their employees who had the same) get to not give their fair share back to the societal experiment known as the USA… because they whine about it and give a shitload of money to politicians to make it all just so.
Schools are dying faster in rural areas than in urban areas because the prevailing wisdom of “you can’t solve education problems by throwing money at it” has been the rule since Reagan did it in the 60’s.
Of course not… you stupid fucks. Why the hell are you starving our kids of knowledge for a slogan?
Anyway… back on topic… how much do sports cost?
You love football? You had better pay for it, or it’s gone.
Soccer costs $10… for a whole season… and there seem to be a lot of empty fields where it can be played nowadays.
http://dataomaha.com/media/sports/high-schools/football/the-disappearance-of-high-school-football/#the-disappearance-of-small-town-football
Hmmmm, in season’s past we’ve seen slogans like “Let it rage!” Or was it simply, “Let it Rage”? What is this year’s: “Pay attention to our detail?” “Celebrate detail?” How effective will these detailed (de-tailed) beavers be?
Mmmmm, Pliny the Elder….
Attention to the tail?
And yes… mmmmm, Pliny the Elder!
“Still not bad enough to make you want to watch soccer!”
Back to the CWS…. After the Eaters chased the Vandy starter they didn’t get another hit. And the 4 runs they scored were not enough as Vandy wins, 6-4. “Eaters” not only sounded like “Beavers” their play emulated the late season Beavers.
Vandy gave them a chance to win it.
Played soccer my whole life. High School soccer team and football team practiced on adjacent fields. Every year started the same with thing, Football players taunting over the fence during the numerous water breaks during their “excruciating” Daily Doubles. We just did one daily 5.5 hour practice. Two weeks into training we were machines, while football players would still be puking after having to run up and down the field once. Taunting would usually subside around this time. Instead as they watched it would be more like “Man I’m glad I don’t play soccer. I don’t know how you guys do it.” Mind you we had multiple D 1 football players on the team. The head football coach every year during the offseason would pull myself and 4-5 of our better players into his office and try to convince us to switch over. Football looked like a lot of fun. I wished one of them could’ve been a spring sport so I could play both. But in the end I had too much time and love invested in soccer to switch. That and I’m not the type who chugs 5 red bulls and then bashes my head into a locker multiple times as game prep.
Flopping can be ridiculous at times, as in about every sport. Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Durrantula, Shaq, Duncan, every Euro ever… Even the best ever Jordan cried like a baby every time he didn’t get a call. And their not having collisions where you’re running at their true top speed getting your legs taken out from underneath you. 90% of football collisions the offensive player is ready for and has time to brace for the hit or try to hit back.
If soccer’s not your cup of tea, fine you don’t have to watch it. Those who show so much hate towards soccer probably didn’t actually play sports (or at least didn’t have the talent or drive to get past junior high.) You’re just winey arm chair quarterbacks. All of my friends who were actual athletes (college football players, college b-ball players) all appreciate the game and athleticism it takes to play it. All love to play FIFA video games (as do most the football players you live vicariously through), and have the ability to celebrate the world cup as the special event it is. Or ignore it. But not hate on it.
And don’t forget those tv timeouts for football…
They’re so much worse when you’re at the game.
Going ALL over the place:
I’ve often thought that a team could more explicitly use temporal data to inform their conditioning programs – how long does a game take, what’s the average length of an active play? How much time between plays? Number of timeouts, etc. All of which is readily available. I could see somebody like Chip Kelly using that strategically (and he probably did/does), I cannot see Riley doing it.
I agree one should be able to enjoy one of the two sports without bashing the other. I also think most American viewers do not appreciate a play, or the teamwork associated with it, that may look meaningless in the larger context of a 1-0 soccer match victory. Sure, in football, they can appreciate a great run, or catch, or in basketball a great pass or dunk (becoming the most boring play in NBA), but with soccer? Not quite there yet.
And as I’ve opined before, Soccer has the advantage in stadium design but I think well see that influence football stadiums. If the game of American football last long enough….
I tend to agree with others here that football has a short remaining lifespan (which – combined with an NCAA business model on its deathbed makes me wonder about the wisdom of completing Reser); others think that the game will attend to attract enough players to survive due to simple reasons of poverty (“If I make it big in the league….”) and the American culture that surrounds the game.
Well said.
I think completing Reser as a boutique stadium is essential. Esthetics kinda matter, but functionality matters more. The west side was so poorly done.
Have I said yet… I hate Lynn Snyder.
50K capacity is just about right for Reser. But it also needs to be smartly fitted to be multi-purpose for the future. There will be a day when other field sports besides football reign. And there are so many stadiums out there that just can’t evolve to deal with that. It’s almost a case of us being so late to become fluent in football facility language that we can become fluent in the future instead.
But I will never accuse any AD, let alone Bobby D, of being that forward looking.
Ha!
I hate Lynn Snyder because he sucked eggs. But here I am defending soccer as the next wave.
Still, Snyder was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo short sighted. I understand pinching pennies. I understand remaining viable when you hire a Pettibone and an assistant hoopster (I still love you Jimmy… and your boys) for your revenue sports.
Okay… I don’t understand the latter.
The early 90’s killed us two-fold. That was the advent of the rise in televised collegiate sports. And being televised meant you had to be interesting. Too many people look at the Ducks and want to apply the recent nouveau riche feel to their success. But they built that upon the 90’s visibility of going to the Rose Bowl and being viable.
They were 12 years and two coaches removed from that point in time before they made their recent run. They also had a couple years of Joey five years after. We haven’t been so fortunate. And some of that has been by our own design.
Someone should start a blog about this.
What pac-12 sports will Larry Scott export to Asia – basketball, soccer, and gymnastics seem like potential examples, maybe soccer (though not all viable for tv). You’ve said football is too expensive (size of teams, equipment and transportation). Baseball?
And how does the PAC and and NCAA market to the growing Hispanic population in the USA? The NBA is clearly reaching out to the Hispanic market. Do we see a day when collegiate soccer teams draw tens of thousands or people to campus; including an increasing Hispanic population? Does a multi-purpose Reser stadium respond to that?
Do people even keep going to campuses (I hope so)…
I think you’re getting the idea here.
Hoops is huge in China right now. They like their small contained sports. I don’t know if they will ever move to field sports. But give them anything viewable in an indoor arena, and they’re all over it.
And then there’s India. Cricket is king, but baseball might be able to take some of that market. And even some of that market could be viable from an investment standpoint.
Indoor air quality is easier to maintain, don’t have to deal with an pesky environmental quality regulations…
Pesky?
That which doesn’t kill you is probably still not regulated.
The Chinese are very aware of their longevity as it relates to their future… if that makes any sense. It’s the Russians who are the fucks in this world… and the Sauds… and the US.
“It’s almost a case of us being so late to become fluent in football facility language that we can become fluent in the future instead.”
Kind of like last year’s media sentiment that Riley’s pro-set being around so long it’s going to be difficult to prepare for in a Pac 12 with so many other teams running read option/spread offenses.
Well, it’s like we always do. We’re so late to come around to going spread option that by the time we finally do it the football landscape will have gone back to pro-sets because the option will have been figured out. Then we’ll be stuck with another Pettibone, running an option in a world of grown-ups.
I hate Dee Snider too
heh heh… what about Dan Snyder?
the foreskins owner? He’s a butthole
Careful on the “you didn’t play past third grade” argument. That’s relative to understanding more than it is to playing.
I think someone who can’t play can still appreciate a sport for what it is. But I agree with you about the disingenuous hatred toward a sport when interest in competition isn’t even feigned. I love football, but I can make so many more arguments against it based on the illogic foisted by those who hate futbol.
That just doesn’t make sense to me.
“Careful on the “you didn’t play past third grade” argument. That’s relative to understanding more than it is to playing.” True. Maybe got ahead of myself. Then again those who have a lack of understanding I would expect to just not watch/care about soccer. That was more meant for those that lash out against soccer players as “Pussies” or other belittling comments.
I think there might also be some local backlash against soccer right now because Timber and Sounder fans seem to rub people the wrong way. I grew up on Euro soccer in-particular EPL so I haven’t been able to really get into MLS yet due to the talent disparity. The Gap is closing a bit now though.
MLS is still the minors. That’s what kills the sport in the US. The best players are loaned out to Euro teams, and we don’t get the best of even our own home grown best.
Soccer sucks
The in shape argument is apples to oranges. Conditioning for football is for short bursts of maximum exertion.
Yes, but saying that makes them superior athletes is also disingenuous. Proving that you are an “athlete” means that you can subject yourself to something other than a specialized trait and measure yourself quantitatively against others in overall events. I have no doubt Usain Bolt can outrun any CB in the NFL… easily. Can he catch a ball? Probably. But catching a football is so little of an athletic talent. Catching it the way Fitzgerald or Cooks can do… that takes some real athletic ability. Catching it the way Megatron can do it? That takes speed and size, both of which Bolt has.
There are other little intricacies which make specialized position players better than others. And some of those listed have learned over a lifetime to perfect those intricacies. But it would not take much for elite athletes in other sports to be proficient on an NFL level in some of these positions. The one thing most international athletes can’t do overnight is to become fat slobs who can push the line.
And the line is where football is won.
Banker, Cav amongst longest-tenured assistants in college football:
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/06/mark_banker_mike_cavanaugh_two.html#incart_river
Another Duck bites the dust. Been an offseason of house cleaning for them. I’ve been reading hints that Dunmore’s transfer is related to the transfer of Tyree Robinson last week, and that it wasn’t the player’s decision to leave in either case. Anybody know what these guys did to get the boot? One comment I read suggested it had something to do with a theft at some off-campus location, but none of the news organizations are saying anything.
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/06/linebacker_oshay_dunmore_lates.html#incart_river
That’s sad.
I like Dunmore as an overall athlete. I had no idea he was caught up in anything related to the Robinson fiasco, but it was well known down here that one twin was leaving his bro behind not by choice.
I’m tired of these stories. I want these kids to succeed. If there was any more liberal stance I could take, it would be to will them to succeed where they shouldn’t even be allowed to be attending a school.
I get no shadenfreude from this report.
I read they both stole stuff out of the locker of one of the guys that left the team earlier. Who can’t keep their hands off of chartreuse blouses?
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3275/2616703614_da5f53e7e3_z.jpg?zz=1
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/0/1/0/3/0/7/Buckwheat-Otay-137487419025.jpeg
Another thing I just don’t understand…
Mexico is wearing orange and black in their match against Brazil.
I guess I know who I need to cheer for.
Then again… I’m torn.
http://extratime.uol.com.br/wp-content/img/2013/05/Neymar_bone-Beavers.jpg
Who do I cheer for?
Brazil has fewer drug cartels and hotter women. The choice is simple. But then again, who cares?
Those jerseys look pretty red to me.
The fewer drug cartels (which is unsubstantiated) and the color of the jerseys make it a lock.
I went and physically counted the drug cartels on spring break.
Call me next time you go on spring break. I volunteer to help you… umm… count drug cartels in vacay spots.
Because I believe corporate giants aren’t filled with cretins who believe their children are immune from global destruction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGUQf0C5NLQ
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/06/17/beaver-viciously-attacks-kayaker/?intcmp=obnetwork
Who would have thought Benny was so scarey.
My relatives every time say that I am killing my time
here at web, but I know I am getting knowledge daily by reading thes nice content.
http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2014/jun/findings-point-toward-one-first-therapies-lou-gehrig’s-disease
The best thing about FIFA is that it mandates that games be played on real grass.
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/official-grass-of-the-world-cup/article_945d1826-b57d-5146-93e3-d1b43ff803cf.html
Beef ‘O Brady bowl to become “Bitcoin St. Petersburg Bowl,” and you thought it might be cancelled.
Perhaps the playoff games and NC can be named after dead presidents or other allegorical money names? Fort Knox Bowl? NCAA Treasury Bowl? NCAA Bureau of Engraving and Printing Bowl?
apologies if it was already posted. Nick Faust headed to LBSU. Much like the ducks, we really didn’t want him anyway
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/06/former_oregon_state_commit_nic.html
They got a bargain.
yeah. career average of 9.4ppg. Total bargain
A Faustian bargain!
So the Beavs don’t make the CWS and suddenly no one here cares about college baseball. Really soccer and who isn’t joining the basketball team. I’ve watched some of most of the CWS games. There are some interesting stories developing and you would be both surprised and pleased at often the Beavs and Pat Casey are referred to. Come now….shake yourselves! JB
I’m on a sports hibernation until football camp gets started in August. I might wake up for a small bite here or there, but for the most part, this is my only break from sports all year.
Binge watch Fargo.
Ive heard from a few people that its good. Might have to check it out
I’ve watched some of the CWS and quite frankly, it’s been boring. TD Ameritrade park, where home runs die at the warning track. If it’s Virginia and Vanderbilt in the final I won’t watch. Cmon TCU and Irvine!
Agree that they have overcorrected from the years when the game looked like a slow pitch softball game, but the close game are suspensful. JB
I don’t normally link pure-hate over here but this comment made me laugh.
“There’s not many homers hit at Goss, and that fact is not ruining baseball for me in Corvallis.”
http://www.pure-orange.net/cgi/anyboard.cgi/bscbaseball?cmd=iYz&aK=9847&iZz=9847&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0
Interesting. I just attended a game at Goss Saturday night between the Corvallis Knights and Walla Walla and witnessed FOUR home runs. With wood bats no less.
They do use wood bats, they also play during considerably warmer weather, those two things probably cancel each other out. I’ve been to lots of Knights games as well, the long ball is not exactly common. Not sure about HR/game but don’t seem like like 4/game is normal.
OT but if you go regularly, I’ll have to look you up, buy you a beer soaked napkin.
it was not warm Saturday evening. Probably in the 50’s. Yes, we go quite frequently and will be there Sat night since it’s kids dash for cash. Oh, and block 15 beer suuuuuuuuuucks.
and I had never seen 4 homers in a game at goss before. Beavers or Knights
HR: Osborne (WW), Duffin (C), Lucarelli (C), Kline (C)
http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/corvallis-knights/knights-go-deep-to-rout-walla-walla/article_99df1f3e-f454-11e3-9b1f-0019bb2963f4.html
Eaters get the leadoff man aboard and the usually reliable sac bunt doesn’t work out as the batter fouls off strike 3. Texas CF saves a run with a great diving catch at the track. There’s a lot of talk on the broadcast about the lack of runs and HRs the past 3 years at TD compared to Rosenblatt. Overall BA is also down 30 points. Still 0-0 in t4.
Eaters run ends tonight. The only run scored a solo dinger in the 7th for Texas. Hollingsworth goes 8 and a third for TX. Eaters get the leadoff man on in the 9th but do nothing.
How ’bout the kid who hit the HR? Only his fourth in 115 career games! AP story says Texas head coach joked that 4 of his guys fainted in the dugout when it went out.
OT, but my old highschool won the 2a state championship this year on a walk off home run by and under classman in his first varsity at bat. Some of the guys in the dugout had similar reactions.
Coach said later in an interview that the kid had been squaring the ball up well in BP, and just felt he was due. Baseball is a funny game.