Happy New Year, Beavlettes. Murphy's Law, Law of Averages, et al say it can't be worse than 2011. Right?
Hearing all kinds of things on the DT front. These are the interesting/likely ones:
1. Salt having second thoughts…still hasn't signed with Florida. (Long shot. He basically said he didn't like Corvallis).
2. JC DT Zian Jones interested in the Beavs, possibly even a commit.
I don't know much about Jones. Here's his film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMVHOdqmS4
I don’t have my computer this weekend (visiting family in Boise) so I can’t really see much in his film. I like his measurables, but can’t tell much else about him.
On a side note about Boise, everyone here sports BSU everything, kinda makes me jealous. Is it so much to ask that our fan base change from they geriatric fan, to a newer loud fan that likes to stand during the game and will actually yell?
Yes, that is too much to ask to happen quickly. It will happen as soon as the younger, hipper, fanatical Beaver fan starts earning well into the 6 figures and donating 5 figures. My guess is the vast majority of 5 digit basf donors are also the ones that sit on their hands, (except when tapping the guy in front of him to sit down, or possibly to give MR a standing O after a loss to Sac St).
If you stand up at Reser you might block the view of a disabled person
I read something a few days ago about someone donating something to the order of million plus dollars to WSU. With the exception of Al Reser, why are the successful OSU alums so stingy? We have had Nobel prize winners, a world class engineering program, the worlds most advanced tsunami research program… This list goes on and on, yet our doner base is one of the lowest in the PAC12. Anyone know why this is?
Not sure stingy is accurate. I would think a broader base of supporters is more healthy for the program due to diversity instead of having an owner like u of o.
Maybe it has something to do with how osu impresses upon it’s graduates the importance of donating over the years. I never attended osu so I don’t know how or even if this is done.
I’ve wondered how much the athletes who’ve made it to the pros donate.
I have also wondered that, I remember seeing that Suh within weeks of inking his contract had donated money to NU to have the locker room redone for the football team. Ugh, I hate short seasons, because it gives me to much time to be thinking. We should be discussing the outcome of the Alamo or holiday bowl, or even better talking about how we think the rose bowl is going to turn out.
Whether justified or not, the donor base is low due to the product on the field (or floor) and inept MARKETING.
Was going to add that, I’m not saying they (OSU) deserve more donations, but money wins games. I want to win games.
Sorry for attempting to derail your thread angry, but all these ideas just streamed into my mind.
What a great surprise it would be if OSU could pull in Salt and get this guy as another 300 pounder to occupy the middle? With the commitment of RB Chris Brown, the addition of these two would be a huge surprise.
Jones is intriguing. Good height, weight. Seems to have a good first burst, then looks slow after 5 yards or so, but with Wynn and Chricton on the outside, I think he’d be an effective addition.
Anybody know: who at OSU identified him as a recruit, who is recruiting him, and how the competition in the league he’s playing in is regarded?
I like him. He sheds some blocks well and shows some power. He has some other areas where he needs to get better but Seumalo will help with that. He looks like an upgrade from what the Beavers currently have. I’ll take it.
OT. Quizz fumbled in the game today. Interested in the replay.
I call the fumble they have him in the bowl game was BS. I would it his first fumble if he did.
I haven’t seen a replay yet. Write up said he fumbled at the Tampa Bay two yard line. First “true” fumble in four years of playing college and pro football. On the plus side, he scored a rushing TD today also.
Yeah, and his TD was after knocking the %^&$! out of defender to get in… I miss the Quiz!
I was reading an article a couple of weeks ago somewhere and I can’t find it now, but the story was saying there was a quality JC D-lineman who had come out and said he was interested in OSU, but had not heard from anyone yet on the staff. I am wondering if Jones is that the guy, but the name doesn’t sound like what I remember?.
Now, I’m thinking it might have been Josh Banks, but he went to UW, right? I wonder if Holt getting fired might change that?
Yeah, I remember something like that as well. Was the name possibly Kenny Mack? Maybe Angry or Jack can set us straight.
OT: Anyone else having fits with the new format for the Gadget Times articles by Cliff?
That name sounds like it, I checked ESPN and there is no video. .A Yahoo thing says OSU has”medium interest” whatever that means. That must be the guy, thanks.
I hear Salt is being peppered with questions about his commitment.
It’s Calvin Tonga.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/588979/
Again, I can’t watch his film on my phone, but listed at 6’4 340 makes me warm and fuzzy. At the very least he is Massaniai(sp) 2.0 and just takes up space.
He’s been offered or he’s the guy who is interested in the Beavs and is waiting to hear from them?
We need more discussion going on here now. I am bored out of my mind at the in laws. They are all Duck fans, so we don’t talk about sports.
My wife has some Duck fan friends, they asked if I was going to be watching the Rose Bowl…I said yes I would be watching and rooting for the Ducks to lose. It kind of ended the conversation!
My wife’s brother in law is a duck fan and was asking (sarcastically) what bowl we were playing in. Then I realized the sucks haven’t won a bowl game in four years either. That made me happy. I pointed that out to him, and it also ended the conversation.
First off, you should be referring to it as the badger game. That has cooly got my point across to duck fans in my circle.
Here is a quote from Cliff Kirkpatrick’s blog:
“Riley is friends with Oregon coach Chip Kelly”
Is anyone else bothered with this? I mean, I thought Oregon State and oregon have a rivalry between the two teams? Would Michigan be buddy buddies Ohio State? Would Alabama vs. Auburn? No, Hell NO they wouldn’t!
Here is the Alabama Rammer Jammer Cheer:
“Hey Auburn!
Hey Auburn!
Hey Auburn!
We just beat the hell out of you!
Rammer Jammer, Yellowhammer, gave ’em hell, Alabama!”
Auburn’s response to this:
Auburn, frequently uses the cheer in mocking Alabama following a win. The Auburn band plays it following an Auburn win in the Iron Bowl. The lyrics are typically changed to “Hey Bama! We just beat the hell out of you! Rammer Jammer, Yellowhammer, go to Hell, Alabama!”
Isn’t this what a rivalry is all about? I keep hearing that there is nothing civil about the “Civil War” I think that couldn’t be further from the truth. I mean, I run into Oregon State fans all of the time who say they root for oregon if they’re not playing OSU. That is horrible crap! An Oregon State fan has no business rooting for oregon EVER! I say Go to Hell oregon! I hope they go 0-12 every year, if they were to only win 1 game, that is 1 game too many! It is time for OSU to bring the fight to oregon, then maybe that would help translate to wins vs oregon on the field, or on the court. OSU is too nice, too apologetic to oregon. And for that I say “GO TO HELL oregon!”
Anyone else wanna say “GO TO HELL WHOREGON?” and GO WISCONSIN!!!
I don’t mind that they are friends.
Rather I am concerned that though they are friends, Riley seems to be learning nothing from his rival.
Riley doesn’t seem to be the combative type that some fans want him to be. That is fine. On the other hand, he can at least see what might make his friend successful and try to emulate.
Riley is a “nice guy” who spends too much time being friendly with other coaches, building his rep among his peers, and avoiding upsetting the zebras. Kind of like a stereotypical politician; he has, I believe, been high up in the coaching organizations.
I’d much rather he put some of that time and effort into learning and molding the “identity” of his own team prior to the start of FB season. I’d much rather he put some of that time into evaluating his staff and his system. There are ways to weed out and/or motivate players (and coaches) who are just going through the motions, I’d rather Riley spent time in these areas too.
It’s fine to have friends in the business, its fine to be somewhat active in the “fraternity”, I don’t begrudge MR that. I do, however, think his results indicate that he doesn’t really have much time to devote to anything that doesn’t directly relate to the performance of HIS team.
Oh yeah, I’ll be watching the Badger game today and later the Luck game. Happy New Year all!
“I run into Oregon State fans all of the time who say they root for oregon if they’re not playing OSU. That is horrible crap! An Oregon State fan has no business rooting for oregon EVER!”
Seems to me that an Oregon State fan is better defined as someone who always roots hard for the Beavers, no matter who Oregon State is playing, and no matter what sport is being played.
Yes, many OSU fans hate the Ducks. But many fans of other teams hate the Ducks, too (just ask your nearest Husky). Put in terms of pure logic, duck-hating seems neither necessary nor sufficient for a person to qualify as an Oregon State fan. Instead, it’s love for the Beavers — not hatred for the Ducks — that better defines an Oregon State fan (or so it seems to me).
Anyone know the deal with this guys (Kenny Mack)?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/football/recruiting/player-Kenny-Mack-110943
Holy shit.
Sark steals Josh Wilcox from Tennessee.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7413734/tennessee-volunteers-coaches-leaving-washington-huskies-staff-sources-say
Sark must give incredible BJs. How does her recruit and steal coaches so well?
Not to worry – by the time Riley is gone there will be a new class of hot coaches. And, I hope Brennen and Brasfield can work their way into making changes.
*Jusin Wilcox*
Saw that… so much for the “he’ll never take a coordinator job in the Pac” crowd being right. I’m sure he’s making more at UW than Norm Chow will ever make at Hawai’i. Hell, Nick Holt was making more. Wilcox has got to be worth twice what Holt was.
I’ll miss Nick Holt. He was the only thing keeping the puppies from doing anything worth a damn. 777 will be his legacy.
Mark Banker’s legacy is 694 with the Rose Bowl on the line, 65-38 in 2008. Yet, Mark Banker is still around, what a joke!
This is how many yards OSU’s Defense led by Mark Banker, has given up to oregon the past 4 Civil War games.
2008: 694 yards
2009: 489 yards
2010: 491 yards
2011: 670 yards
Average = 586 yards allowed!
There were/are a lot of unhappy campers at Tennessee. After losing to Kentucky, the boosters are out for blood and Dooley is on the clock. Unknowlingly, Wilcox had gotten himself into a bad situation. It doesn’t help that Kiffen recruits felt betrayed and Dooley recruits feel trapped. This probably helps Dooley deflect some of the heat for now. This is more of an escape in lieu of a promotion or salary grab.
Holt did make for an interesting visual image on the sideline, peering over his reading glasses with that frustrated look on his face as another Huskie defensive disaster was taking place. It was also fun watching his head get redder and redder and usually by the 4th quarter it looked like the top of it was going to explode off.
The dude should have stayed HC at Idaho, it would have kept his blood pressure about 30 points lower or at least he could have taken some tips from Mark Banker and learned to smile and relax when his defense was giving up 300 yards rushing. Wait, I forgot Holt couldn’t smile, unlike at OSU other BCS schools actually replace their DC’s when they can’t perform.
I think Holt and Mike Stoops need to end up on the same team. Monumental sideline mentdowns make for good entertainment.
Hi BN.. It’s me again with a 2011 final. Happy New Year to all faithful Beavs!
Was 2011 the worst year ever for OSU? In calendar year 2011 the Beavs went 18-27 in the only two sports that matter on a national basis. 10 of the wins due to easy pre-season basketball scheduling, so the record could be even worse.
Three quick observations:
1.) Distasteful as it may be OSU fans need to hope the Ducks win today. Credibility and future revenue projections are dependent on a strong PAC-12. The Beavs have already benefited financially without really contributing anything to the equation.
2.) I don’t think there is enough immediate help on the way for football. BDC and MR have adopted a “hunker down” mentality. Compare their reaction to 2011 results with Sark’s. I predict another 5-7, best case, football season.
3.) Basketball looks good, despite the rough start. 12-13 may be the year when it all pays off. Ultimately, however, decrepit Gill and CR’s ultimate departure mean a return to mediocrity or less.
Finally, thanks to Angry for his forbearance after my controversial debut. He stuck with me after numerous calls for banning. I am not a troll, just a frustrated fan who uses sarcasm to make my points.
One last time for 2011 O….S…..U wave arms like a spaz or until tired, bored or embarrassed. JB
You need to take #1 off your list, and remove any resembling thought from your brain!
Go to HELL oregon! Go Wisconsin!!!
Hell, back in the 80″s I still wanted Oregon to lose to Nebraska and Notre Dame, I hated them so much. JB’s point makes sense financially, but I can’t even medicate down my rage against all things Duck.
I’ve warmed up to you jb
Next thing you know you’ll be calling him your friend. FTd, On Wisconsin!
Thanks… fist bump. JB
So, how do you go from posting the same one note joke over and over (and don’t get me wrong it wasn’t a bad joke at first) to providing thoughtful forward thinking analysis?
Who are you and what did you do with the original Pettibonehead?!?
PettiboneHead has some points even though they are tough to swallow right now.
We need to get to the point where ESPN game day comes to OSU to see the Beavers and not the Ducks. They get all of the exposure which helps them recruit to a bigger base. We may gloat about how well we think recruiting is going but when I look at Oregon, USC, Stanford and Washington we are not keeping pace. That means we are falling farther behind. We need a change and as long as BDC is there, we are toast!
That all comes down to the head coach and his lack of fire and confidence.
Imagine if Riley had gone to USC and Harbaugh had come to OSU instead of Stanford…does anybody think he couldn’t recruit to Corvallis and wouldn’t have his team winning 10 games a year?
I just found out that OSU just landed a verbal commitment from J.C. DT Calvin Tonga! He is listed at 6’4 320 lbs!
http://oregonstate.rivals.com/default.asp
I’ll take it! Film looks decent. Size is definitely a plus. Salt is still a possibility but that’s very unlikely. Zian looks to be more the project whereas Calvin looks ready to contribute. Calvin and Castro should occupy the middle well enough for our DE to get work done. If Zian commits too, this will actually be a really good recruiting class, and we’d have this thing called depth on the DL. If Salt commits this will be a tremendous class… I won’t be holding my breath for that.
Right now a warm blooded, 300lb, breathing body is acceptable.
Can you say dregs? Not saying it’s so but at this late stage most of the cream has been skimmed off by the coaches who can recruit.
I wonder if this means Mr. Salt, etc. are going elsewhere?
Just remember one thing, there’s a reason they went to JC. Look at Kuli, and Glover. Just saying.
Chris Polk leaving for the NFL.
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/32649/polk-to-enter-draft
Go Ducks…. No I mean go Badgers! No I mean…. who the hell cares!
Go Luck!
BeaverBill,
You mean “On Wisconsin” Go to HELL oregon!!!
and Go Tree!
My boss is a badger fan and pays my wages so…. Go Wisconsin and Go Tree!
Mich St and Georgia in 2 OT. Now 3rd OT.
The Rose bowl is beginning to look like it could be another Alamo bowl.
I haven’t heard anything about Baylor making some changes in their D coaching staff but giving up 56 to Washington sure makes it seem like it would be something that they’d be considering.
IF, you’ll note the big IF, IF Mr. Salt did come to OSU AND IF Mr. Salt and Mr. Tonga both are good enough where they could contribute right away………….
Would you still want to see the Beavs switch to a 3-4?
How about if it’s just Mr. Tonga and he’s the real deal. 3-4 or 4-3?
If they get Salt you stick with the 4-3 for sure. You want those two DT’s on the field at the same time. If they don’t him I can see why they would move to 3-4. I personally would like to see them move to the 3-4. They will have the personnel for it and it makes a ton of sense to move to the 3-4. Doubt that switch is made though.
Wisconsin D is going to make Banker’s scheme look good.
You act like Banker’s scheme isn’t good! lol
Banker has a good scheme just no decent of enough players to execute it.
What world do you live in? You like Banker’s scheme?
I am hearing that Molesi and Iona, two former commits and from the same JC are also coming with Tsonga. Has anybody heard this as well?
Haven’t heard anything like that. However, if Molesi and Iona got their grades in order and do come, this class would be really, really good. The future would be looking nice.
Based on this stat sheet, Molesi was a bigger impact player than Tonga for AZ Western last season.
Looks like Happy Iona didn’t do a whole lot…doesn’t look like he even started.
BTW, D’Vante Henry goes to this school too (playing at LB). Is this Oregon St. South??
Oops, forgot link:
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_stats.cfm?sid=11&divid=0&slid=5&seasonselect=547&collegeid=1239&report_id=3721&requesttimeout=500
I am just guessing but I would say that he might have been hurt?
Have you read meat market? Often schools will use a JC as a place to put athletes who don’t make it (like we have). That JC will tend to funnel those players back to the D1 school in return.
Reliable source? If so, that would be a steal of deal!
I forgot about those two. If they made it in….what a nice surprise that would be.
I’m with those who’d like to see some more 3-4, but I’d also like to see some more zone pass coverage mixed in, particularly against young QB’s. Have Chricton and Wynn chasing some youngster around, play some zone, I bet OSU CB’s would get several more picks per year.
I’ve been pretty impressed with these ACC officials so far. Very quick and crisp on the replays and they even caught Boyett doing some of his after the whistle bullshit that P-12 officials never seem to notice. They did miss the helmet to helmet on Huff though.
I do always wonder why so many d-lineman seem to end up on the ground on some of the Ducks running plays where they spring huge gains??? I guess when O-lineman block in the back it’s not a penalty?
It isn’t a penalty provided two things: 1) the blocker must already have engaged the defender prior to a block in the back or 2) the block occurs within a couple of yards on either side of the line of scrimmage “in the box”.
They definitely take full advantage and the refs seem to be watching other things in the P-12.
The look on the uck lineman who was flagged for holding was “what, I get away with that all the time!”
Looks like the Ducks are going to finally win one.
Bummer. One thing the Beavs had was a more recent Rose Bowl victory.
Agreed. Herby jinxed the Badgers when he said that Russel only had 3 INTs on the year and he promptly throws his 4th.
Maybe this will get LMJ and his glass arm into the NFL now..
I’m fine with Oregon winning because it gives all the passive fans who had nothing to do but honpe the Ducks lose rather than ask for change at their own school nowhere to find comfort. OSU fans don’t deserve to have nice things like taunting the school down south for losing BCS games they actually get to. I would rather have them gnashing their teeth and hate the mediocrity they support when they buy tickets and not shit on Bobby D when he sits back and does nothing.
Hopefully the Ducks win every BCS game they get to when we don’t make .500 because maybe then we’ll see them eventually show Passion for their own team
Bilelema lost that game with his dipshit use of time outs.
God I hate the Ducks
Is Kiko Alonso retarded?
Multiple DUII says yes.
5 will get you 10, Riley would have had 6 timeouts going into that drive! Finally something beaver nation can hang their hat on! We have the most unused timeouts ever! Riley/Langsdorf/Banker in 12!!!
This was supposed to be a reply to WFO’s comment on Wisconsin’s retared clock management. Damn smart phone!
Oh I have a great idea for future beaver merchandise! Remember the WWJD and Live Strong bracelets of the early 2000’s? Let’s get a IRWT bracelet in orange and black! IN RILEY WE TRUST!!! Kraft fight hunger bowl here we come!!!
Yeah, you would think Bielema would have someone up in the box who knows the rules, right? I didn’t think the second half was Chryst’s finest hour either. I guess the Badgers don’t have any screens in their playbook?
Oh well, Quack fans are going to act like they won the “natty”, but they are just another two loss team, outside looking in….thank god for USC (I never thought I would say that in my lifetime).
Bielema and Chryst both had some……..interesting games. Bielema blew a chance to go up two touchdowns in the first half and punted from the Ducks 38? on 4th and 3. That’s way too conservative. Then he blows a timeout on a call that really wasn’t close. Then I believe he told Wilson to spike it with 2 seconds left which was a disastrous mistake.
Nice win for the Pac 12’s second best team.
Agreed, they were way too conservative and kind of ended getting what they deserved. That being said I would have laughed my ass off if they would have scored at the end. What the hell was the Duck secondary doing?
Oh and the lame Oregon press has really been playing up the “Kelly hasn’t won a big game yet” angle, so we will have to suffer through the monkey off of his back storyline for awhile.
Normally I don’t care about uniforms, but OKST’s gear looks pretty cool. Way better than anything we’ve ever worn, and with our colors.
Agree they’re good looking unis.
Alex, I agree with you and Nike did them. So hopefully we get some new unis for next year. My cousin was at the Rose Bowl and said the Ducks new helmets were way better looking on the field and that they looked good even at night. We need to get some high tech stuff going that will attract recruits! It really doesn’t matter matter what non-players think, it is all about the BLING for you recruits.
Those helmets looked like black chrome with bright chrome wings. Crazy looking.
As a high school senior I can tell you you are correct. I live in Portland and its surprising how many dumbass kids in my class are going to U of O because its “cool” and because of the uniforms. It’s pathetic. I’m questioned as to why I would ever want to go to Oregon State because as far as they’re concerned they don’t even have electricity on the campus. There need to be some major changes in our marketing. I say get Nike to rebrand us like they did wazzu last year. I dont mean to be racist, but there are a few black kids at my school that have reviewed interest from Oregon state and few other schools for football and basketball, yet they have no interest because it’s “boring”. That’s just my take as one of the few young die hard beaver fans in the west hills of Portland.
Ewwww… Wazzu’s unis? They don’t even qualify as unis, since uniform by definition means that everyone on the team wears the same thing. They had different jerseys for different positions… even different numbers.
And to top it all off they were so damn ugly. And I’m not talking bling tacky ugly. They were just plain ugly. Bill Moos has done a lot of good things in Pullman. But those unis were not one of them. I would rather have the Beavs sports bra look than wear those things.
Agreed.
By my count, that gives Nike one good uni and a whole bunch of tacky misses.
Although, I do like our orange or white tops with our black pants. I just can’t stand the muskrat cartoon on the helmet with the tacky script underneath trying to convince me that it’s not an angry muskrat.
The beaver on the helmet doesn’t even bother me as badly as how much our “family friendly” mascot looks like Scooby Doo. I might even forget all about the cartoon and script if the helmets changed to matte black.
WFO you are classless! You may not like that the next year is going to be a living hell for us but you don’t need to pick on a kid.
We have our own set of issues, like Dominic Glover, who also struggles so leave the personal attacks on the sideline.
The recruiting news today seems like a step in the right direction. I hope these big guys can run or USC and Oregon will be tough to beat. I know that everyone is obsessed with the d-line but we also need someone to step up a running back. I don’t think we have anyone who could start for any other Pac-12 school on the roster so our only hope is Chris Brown. I would like to see at least one more running back in this class.
Fuck you pussy.
WFO your reply just confirmed my statement.
Thanks for leaving no doubt.
Any time.
Pussy.
Kiko is a grown man, he made a grown man decision to DUI and break into someones house. He is not a kid.
Everyone knows that he has an alcohol problem, and it has been reported that he went into rehab. Give the guy credit for that and trying to turn his life around. So people are just hateful.
So you would have given naked three point stance a third chance too?
Or did he need to be a more vital cog to be given a third chance?
definitely need to be a more vital cog than that, Starters always get more rope… this is college football.
Would you defend a 40 year old Meth head for DUI and B&E?
Didn’t think so.
Why hypothesize about the rediculousness, no one was defending meth. I certainly remember many a party at OSU where many of us got drunk and did things that were not legal. I bet if you were honest, you would admit as much.
Imo we can’t tell how good or bad our RBs are because the OL SUCKS so bad.
But you’re correct, we have our own set of very serious issues. Let’s not start fighting amongst ourselves. I just hate the ducks with a rage that burns as hot as 1,000 suns. I will never cheer for or defend them. I would rather suck start a shotgun.
I don’t like seeing the Ducks win anymore than the next Beaver fan (how sick are we going to get looking at those “Rose to Power” shirts for a generation), but Kelly’s team plays with verve, the team is loyal to him, always make the play when they need to (though they do get the bounces)and he himself “comes to play”; unlike the guy roaming the sideline in Corvallis.
Rose to Power?
That’s incredibly lame. They’re not going to make that a shirt are they?
I googled “rose to power” and found nothing but a bunch of Hitler, Lenin and Saddam Hussein links. I thought it was just too lame to be a Nike idea. Now I think it’s lame and stupid at the same time.
Well, you weren’t kidding:
http://www.nikeblog.com/2012/01/03/oklahoma-state-and-oregon-bowl-champion-shirts-hats/
Did they fire the people who used to come up with good ideas at Nike? These ideas are fireable offenses. I used to dislike Nike for all they stand for in social and economic corruption within the world. But I had to respect their marketing acumen.
Now I guess they’ve lost their minds.
Rose to Power and Nacho Victory? Seriously?
I already know what the Orange and Sugar Bowl shirts will say:
“Orange You Glad You Didn’t Care Enough to Watch This Game?”
–and–
“I Gots Me Some Sugar”
… unless Michigan wins the Sugar that is. If they win, then I guarantee Adidas will have some lame T-shirt with *gasp* “2012 Sugar Bowl Champions” on it.
So lame when they could be cheesy cell phone commercial punny.
Wannabeav, you are right. Passion from Riley is missing. How do we light a fire under that guy.
I am worried because for the last two years Riley has been playing with players that he recruited and not the remainder of the Erickson era. Those were horrible seasons and if he can’t get more talent in here, we are going to lose to both UW and the Ducks every year. I can’t think of anything worse. According to Scout, our recruiting class is rated lower than every team in the Pac-12 north accept WSU. But Leach is a dynamic recruiter so we don’ t have a lot of time to get things going in the right direction.
Hmmm… I just can’t make myself care about this Fiesta Bowl. I need a team to root for or a team to hate, and I have neither in this one. I don’t know what happened to my hatred for Stanford… it used to be passionate. I even used to have a Fuck Stanford t-shirt back in undergrad. I guess my hatred has waned… those damn Stanford fans are too non-obnoxious. And the only thing I have against Ok St is that they de facto won full usage of our acronym. Bah.
I guess if Stanford wins they stay ahead of the Ducks in the final rankings.
Missed the end of the game.
What happened on the last play? Did Wilson spike it with 2 seconds left?
Sure did. Very, very dumb.
Did this previously say “0 seconds left”, or am I going crazy?
Yup, instead of just going for a play to the end zone Wilson tried to spike. I thought it was kind of a slow spike to boot and someone said Bielema was calling for the spike also.
One consolation is there is a chance the uo will have to vacate this win.
That’d make me feel a little better.
I highly doubt that they will have to vacate any win this year as the player in question, Seastrunk, never played and transferred out before the season. If there is a penalty it would probably be in the future but even that is in question.
That’s not the only player in question.
Who else are they looking at?
DeAnthony Thomas, to a lesser extent I have heard.
Could include:
Tra Carson
LaMichael James
Dontae Williams (left before 2011season)
Others too they say.
One aspect of the Rose Bowl that’s interesting (to me anyway), is that it add additional relief to the differences between OSU and UO. OSU is shut out and loses to W (in Wisconsin) by 35, UO beats them on the big stage by 7. OSU loses to UO by 28…..
Now if anyone wants to point out the disparity in OSU and UO’s record and say “that’s enough,” I probably wouldn’t argue. Or if you said head-to-head match-ups aren’t always “apples and oranges” (home game v. neutral site), but to me this game should be further motivation to DeCarolis to make change.
On another note, if Rile et al have and have had Iona and Molesei in the fold and have keeping quiet about it, I’d say they deserve some credit for addressing the DT issue and keeping a hold of their own recruits. I was very encouraged by these two commitments last year, and if they make it in now, things are going to be a whole lot better next year.
More good news, Wisconsin will be without Ball, Wilson, Toon and their starting center next year when they play the Beavs. So all Banker needs to figure out is how to stop the run because they don’t have a QB on their roster who can pass. He has all summer to figure it out so there should be no excuses.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it’s not gonna happen. OSU couldn’t even stop the “Mighty Hornets” of the powerhouse known as Sacramento State! They won’t stop Wisconsin or half of the othe teams they play. Maybe Nicholls State, just maybe? Maybe Wazzu, ASU or Arizona? That’s all I see OSU, possibly beating. Do we play Colorado next season? If so, that “might” be an OSU win?
Will they come out and play that game? Or exchange it for a patsy at home?
apples and apples? beavers and badgers?
Question Beaver fans, “Will Oregon State ever make it to the Rose Bowl again?”
Thoughts?
Ever? Yes. Will they do it before I lose interest in the program. Highly unlikely.
Like one out of a thousand? Or more like one in a million?
“So, you’re sayin there’s still a chance!” -Dumb and Dumber
Yes, I think they will make a Rose Bowl. I think it will be sooner than most expect.
I love the optimism. I think there must be some major changes before OSU will even come close, IMHO.
This was a nightmare Rose Bowl for me. Beaver undergrad and U of Minnesota Dental School.
Both of my alma mater’s arch rivals playing each other. One time I want the Fadgers to win, they lose.
Their coach is a first class douche bag. Both alma maters share the dubious distinction of longest streaks without a Rose Bowl appearance. UO has left us in the dust. Would like to go to a Rose Bowl before I die. Not real hopeful.
What are the issues in Minneapolis? Seems like it would be an easy place to recruit to…cool city. My lady is from there.
How about the winter making Corvallis look like the Bahamas.
More a factor of not having an on campus stadium for 30 years. Now we have a beautiful stadium. It is really awesome. Too bad our moronic AD decided to hire a bigger moron for a head coach, Tim Brewster, that killed all the buzz of the new stadium. Thank god Brewster is gone.
The cold thing is a little overplayed. No real difference from the rest of Big 10 cities. What I find fascinating is that here the excuse for the recruiting problems is that kids want to go to the classic college town where the University is the center of everything. The excuse in Corvallis is the exact
opposite. Kids want to go to a big city and not a small college town. The reality, as we all realize,
is that if you win and sell yourselves properly, you can recruit anywhere.
Where in the cities is your lady from Angry?
She’s from Minneapolis…south area/uptown.
We’re going to be moving next year and will likely wind up there.
I live just south of there.
Tiger Woods on the sidelines at the Fiesta Bowl. Trying to pick up a cheerleader or two?
Stanford deserves to lose for being stupid.
Is our kicker in for stanford? He has got to be! Better put him on suicide watch tonight.
My question is will he get thrown off the team bus or off the airplane (at about 24K feet)?
Shaw…………………how many years till he gets fired? He is out of Luck.
Why wouldn’t Okie State just run it in…. wow.
Going to the Rose Bowl seems so out of the question with having Oregon and Stanford doing so well and Washington improving while we are sliding backward. Also Cal is getting new faciilitiies and their recruiting classes are better than ours.
Then we have to be SC in conference championship game. Vegas odds are probably 100 to 1.
Stanford loses in OT because a freshman kicker missed short game winner in regulation and then again in the OT.
What happened in the Stanford game?
Stanford is in for a rough go without Harbaugh and Luck.
Stanford was tied at 38 with Ok State with under a minute to go and had it at the Cowboys 25 yard line. Shaw then elected to run it a couple times and play for the FG instead of letting Andrew Luck throw for a touchdown. Kicker then missed a 35 yard FG. In OT Shawn was extremely conservative and basically played for another FG and his kicker missed again.
What happened is that Stanford’s freshman kicker choked — badly hooking and missing an easy field goal at the end of regulation that would have won the game. It was a Bill Buckner moment. Sad to say, it will probably haunt this poor kid forever.
That is unfortunate, but it’s just a football game.
Sounds like a lot of it is on Shaw, too. No surprise there.
Has there ever been a more difficult time to be an Oregon State Beaver fan, than right now?
Guys, our rival just won the freakin Rose Bowl, played in 3 consecutive BCS Bowl games, played in the National Championship, won the conference Championship 3 years in a row, beat us 4 years in a row, receives more love from ESPN and the media than any other team in the country, they are basically turning water into wine in Eugene now, everyone in the state is drinking green & yellow kool-aid, Nikegon is breaking the rules and prospering more than ever before!
While at the same time within our football program at OSU, they are practicing insanity. Insanity by definition is doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting to find different results. Mediocrity has spread like a cancer throughout the entire athletic program. Baseball has been our only hope and highlight sport for the last 6+ years. A great football program makes your entire University successful. Instead of OSU waking up and making the necessary adjustments to remain competitive and to be the best, they are folding. Giving up. Settling for mediocrity. Satisfied with the status quo.
The fans have a different vision, and higher expectations than the current administration at Oregon State University. The fans deserve more than this. OSU is better than the current acceptance of failing to reach the expectations!
Knock it off with the stupid insanity non-definition! It’s not correct, and it’s so over-used that it’s not correct and not remotely cool anymore.
You have decent things to say without making yourself look dumb the process. What does it say to others when you use an incorrect definition for ‘insanity’ over and over again?
Is it thus insane to use the incorrect definition of insanity?
By the very incorrect definition that is foisted upon us over and over again… yes.
And by definition #3 of the actual definition of insanity… yes.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insanity
Whoa JackBeav! Ok, so my name isn’t Webster. My bad. OSU still fails to be innovative & creative on offense, and fails to make adjustments on defense. In my definition, that’s insaine and dumb. My opinion is not. Oh, and Go Beavs!
Dude! Come on!
A little reading comprehension would be nice… on top of losing the Rita Mae Brown quote.
JackBeav,
Truce?
Haven’t we always had one? My frustration with that Brown quote isn’t necessarily pointed directly at you, so sorry if it appeared that way. It’s more a sense of accumulation. I’ve seen so many people shoot their own arguments in the foot by adding a worthless and incorrect (and now overused) definition.
It’s just an attention to detail thing for me. You should hear me go off on people who incorrectly use the ideas of a zero-sum game or the invisible hand… and people use both incorrectly A LOT.
I understand where you are coming from, thank you for the explaination.
You and I agree on many things regarding the current state of OSU athletics. I think there are more Beaver fans who need to become better informed and enlightened. Or they need pull their heads out of the sand. You do a great job of educating and informing.
Im so disgusted, how and why are the ducks kicking our asses so thoroughly on the marketing, recruiting and on field successes? Im really getting sick of it. Are we not as a university as committed to winning as u of o?
I’d honestly say no, we are not as committed to winning. It sucks.
Rivals is running a headline saying that OSU landed a JC DT. Don’t know who but that is good to hear.
looks like it is Calvin Tonga. Don’t know much about him but he has to be an upgrade over Massiani right? If not it will be a long season.
An excerpt from Mandel at Sports-Illustrated:
“When the fifth-year seniors on these teams (Stanford and Oklahoma State) arrived in 2007, the idea of the Cardinal and Cowboys meeting under these circumstances (the Fiesta Bowl) seemed preposterous. Stanford had gone 10-24 the previous three seasons. Oklahoma State had gone 18-18 in the same stretch. But there was reason to believe things would change.
Not coincidentally, 2007 was Jim Harbaugh’s first year as Stanford’s coach. Harbaugh infused the program with a spirit that the Cardinal could compete with anyone on the field, even if Stanford’s rigorous academic standards limited the recruiting pool. Harbaugh left after last season to coach the San Francisco 49ers, but the program he built still clings to his stated desire to win with character and cruelty.
In 2005, Oklahoma State had elevated Mike Gundy to head coach after Les Miles left for LSU. The following year, megabooster T. Boone Pickens made the $165 million — at the time; the stock market changed the number over the years — donation that allowed Oklahoma State to spend along with the big boys in the Big 12.
“I’ve gotten my money’s worth,” Pickens said before Monday’s kickoff. “No question I’ve done that.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_staples/01/03/fiesta.bowl.oklahoma.state.stanford/index.html#ixzz1iPk96JqG
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There’s two clear points to these paragraphs. The first, the value of good coaching and motivation as epitomized by Harbaugh; contrast this to Mike Riley. The second is OSU’s “owner” Picken’s statement, which epitomizes why college football is going down the tubes.
Pickens and Knight should just pay Goodell the goddamned franchise fees and get in the NFL….but its much cheaper to own a college team.
“…OSU’s “owner” Picken’s statement, which epitomizes why college football is going down the tubes.
Pickens and Knight should just pay Goodell the goddamned franchise fees and get in the NFL….but its much cheaper to own a college team.”
Well said and exactly on target.
It’s also more exclusive. There’s 32+ owners in the NFL (including minority owners). How many boosters “own” a college team?
This kid’s junior statistics look interesting, I wonder about the level of competition?
http://oregonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=182&p=8&c=1&nid=5317435
He’d fill OSU’s quotient for names uniquely stocked with
“stocked with” uncommon consonants….
While I agree that money is one major factor in how well a college team performs, there are many others. Thanks to Reser, we now have very good facilities. Thanks to Phil Knight we get uniforms for free. Remember when we had uniforms from Champion and we had to pay for them? We need to address the other issues like coaching and recruiting and also fan support. We never never sell out Reser unless we play the Ducks or Dawgs. If people keep bashing Knight, we might stop getting our equipment for free, so don’t kick a gift horse in the mouth. Did you know that we have more flat screen TVs in our locker room than the Ducks and they still kick our butts! Sac State doesn’t have more resources than us and they beat us. It starts with coaching we don’t have what it takes to compete.
Phil Knight and Nike get plenty out of their relationship with OS. They do not give OS any special opportunities than they do other similarly situated schools. The only time that could be said was after we won the baseball championships and again that was more beneficial to Nike, rather than them being good to OSU.
Yeah, and we got stuck with their dead bats.
“Thanks to Phil Knight we get uniforms for free.”
That’s possibly historically accurate, but it’s no longer currently the truth. I can’t say for sure who started paying schools for apparel licenses, but I would suspect Knight began the process long ago. Now that all apparel companies do it with all D1 schools to varying degrees, there should be no love lost when talking about any one of them. They are all now equal in that regard. But what is not equal is their treatment of like schools within the league.
What the Ducks were being paid by Nike before their first Rose Bowl appearance in the 90’s was more than the Beavs are being paid now in real dollars, not adjusted value. That liquidity aided them in a marketing push which sort of fed itself until the on-field value was hyped beyond reality. OSU made great strides in a short time and in precisely the same market as the Ducks for several years last decade. Yet we were comparably treated like shit by our apparel contractor.
Now that it appears to be a business which has shown apparent bias within the same market, we have seen the Ducks market expand to the national stage, while ours has stagnated with Nike’s influence.
Now, all this can possibly be attributed to our AD’s actions unbeknownst to us. He/they may have provided themselves as a stagnant partner to our apparel contractor, forcing them to treat us as such. Certainly, none of us would be surprised to discover that was the truth. But the reality of an AD’s job does not preclude competitive advantage where it can be found. While I wouldn’t be surprised to find our AD has been a stick in the mud all these years, I would be surprised to find they actually did anything intentionally which would warrant our shitty treatment at the hands of Nike.
And while I am one who fights the notion of unis being the end all for recruiting. I would be stupid to deny they have any effect. The juniors and seniors being recruited in any one season have only the play and the look as tangible ideas of any one team. For the sake of argument, what classes are discussed when we talk about our poor depth for the last couple years? What unis were we wearing during the year we were concentrating on those two classes?
Who was directly responsible for the design of those unis?
Who here is still highly embarrassed by those unis?
That’s a lasting image of our school which is still laughed at when discussions of image appear in national print. And remember that our 2006 unis weren’t exactly awesome either with the Georgia O’Keefe saddle across the shoulders and the pointy, horny stripey thingy down the pant leg.
Biting the hand that has been feeding us gristle and gruel leftovers may be the best thing OSU can do at this point. It would be a huge splash in our market and nationally. And it would be marketed as such by any competing apparel contractor worth their salt.
But again, it would surprise me if our AD would be so bold as to break free from the Stockholm Syndrome induced love of all things Nike. It just ain’t gonna happen.
And I can’t wait for this joke to be told:
http://jockpost.com/nfl-nike-uniforms-2012-real-fake/
Hey! If Chicago goes for this travesty, can we have their old (read: current) unis? Those unis are awesome!
The bengals are the most hideous. I wonder if Pete C will like the u of o fairy wings added to the seahawk unis.
I’m pretty sure this was a test run by Nike in the early stages floating ideas to see how fans would react. The almost universal rejection of these ideas had Nike disavowing the designs as some hack job done by someone with great photoshop skills.
Whatever.
I’m sure Nike has something equally preposterous in store for many NFL unis. Some fan bases are going to be in upheaval when they release their real designs. Can you imagine teams like the Bears, Raiders, Frisco, Vikes, Browns, Steelers and the New Jersey teams going for something other than their iconic and traditional looks? I can see Carolina, Jax Tennessee and the Pats changing it up if only because they have recent designs which really fail to produce an iconic or traditional sense in an otherwise very professional league. The Ravens and Broncos aren’t far behind those four either.
Agreed. Can’t see the Raiders or Steelers doing anything that ridiculous. Looks like Arena Football league or something.
Actually, NFL teams are only allowed to change once every five years. Minnesota made a huge mistake going with the pointy stripey look. First, it looks like crap. Second, their fans hate them.
So the rule may be that most NFL teams remain the same. And the Vikes should head back to their old, traditional unis.
But this go round will provide Nike with an opportunity to rectify one of the most egregious sports fashion events of all time:
http://sezyou.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/abroncos.jpg
The Vikings are beyond stupid. As a Packer fan it is amusing.
Just watched the video of Tonga… he looks to be 3 or 4 times as fast as Castro so that is a plus.
The Nike uniforms did not seem that crazy. The helmets were the distinguisher. Regardless more people read about these designs than followed Oregon St. stories all year long. OSU can’t compete with Oregon unless we get with the times and are ready for a bold identity of our own. It will still be true to OSU as long as we use our colors and focus on building a national winning identity that can attract top recruits to Corvallis and rival the Ducks head on. If we stay status quo or remain too conservative we will only fall further behind.
Oregon St. needs an Extreme Makeover:
http://beaverbyte.com
Heh, heh… he said bold… heh, heh.
What… no powerful?
So why the name change from Jackbeav to Jack? It’s been bugging me. Are you trying to disassociate yourself from the Beavs in 2012?
Yeah me too, and the avitar, it looks like somebody in a mask giving me the finger.
Don’t you know a beaver when you see one?
Actually, I just downloaded the new FF update, and it threw all my settings out of whack. I’ve been too lazy to change them to what they were under the old browser, so I’ve had to type in my info whenever I make a post… the shorter, the better for now. It still keeps my Beaver gravatar though.
I stand by what I see, a three fingered bastard giving me the big middle one! Come to think of it maybe that ought to replace the angry muskrat.
Heh, heh…
Beat this.
Has anyone heard anything about a silent commit? A Duck friend who subscribes to pay sites says we got an o-line commit last night, but that it’s silent.
There’s really no reason for anyone to have a silent commit unless they’re waiting until the all-star games to make all those “mug for the camera” hat parties on the sidelines. Or unless they’re committed somewhere else but don’t like that the coaches who recruited them are leaving.
So there would be no reason for, say, Stan Hasiak, Jake Eldrenkamp or even David Keller to be silent at this point.
Under condition one, someone like a Kyle Murphy would be nice. But I don’t think we are even in his top five. Still, someone along those lines?
Under condition two, the only kid who pops into my head would be the kid we were on with one other school really, really early… but he decided to go to the other school. That would be one Walker Williams who is now going to watch Paul Chryst and Bob Bostad run off to Pitt.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/beavers/2012/01/late_sunday_rumors.html
I’d like to have a reason to rejoice. Hope this guy knows what he’s talking about.
Well, he’s mugging for Blitz. That must be where this rumor started. We’ll see who it might be and whether or not it is a reason to rejoice… I guess.
I still don’t see a reason to go behind the pay wall for this info. We’re all going to know who he is soon enough.
Here’s a link to the forum topic on Scout. I don’t have access but if anybody does, please share what you learn. I don’t like waiting : )
https://secure.scout.com/a.z?s=182&p=5&c=1&requestedurl=http%3a%2f%2fmbd.scout.com%2fmb.aspx%3fs%3d182%26f%3d1704%26t%3d8510100%26p%3d2
I see rumors of Javon Williams, who’s waiting to announce his commitment after his Semper Fi All American Bowl game. If the rumor of Wheaton leaving is true, than I hope it is Williams.
His next post was the next day with the Tonga news. Was that a closure of his “silent commit” post?
maybe, but Tonga isn’t the type of news that a fanbase should cause a fanbase to “rejoice”, although I’m happy he’s on board.
Yes, but my commitment would be a reason to lure suckers behind the pay wall with noises about rejoicing. In that context, Tonga would fit the bill.
Still, I heard it was an o-lineman. So he once again does not fit the bill.
Reads like a horoscope….
I’d rejoice for Salt. So I hope it’s him.
Were we ever in the running for Kevon Seymour?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Kevon-Seymour-124719
And take a look at this tidbit:
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=708&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fblog%2fdave-telep%2fpost%3fid%3d708
sounds a bit like Jabari Brown…
http://beyondthearc.nbcsports.com/2012/01/03/khem-birch-teaches-lesson-about-twitter-era-opinion-makers/
you’re on a roll today with OSU related gossip, it’s keeping the day interesting.
Thanks for the article link.
Jack,
Do you know why he is leaving?
I don’t know anyone there, but someone in the NYC media told me he was recruited to Pitt to be a face up power forward, and Dixon was trying to position him as a C instead. Some discussions arose from their differences, and Birch decided to leave before he wasted a whole year doing something he didn’t want to do.
He’s been mature in all his comments about Dixon and Pitt since he left. That’s something that can’t be said of some of the Pitt ballers and alums in the nbcsports.com link provided by NCAA_viOlation above. So who knows?
Was he selfish? Probably.
Does he get to be selfish? I would say so given the current state of NCAA recruiting.
The difficult story to understand is his high school coach swooping in and bashing him for having “handlers” who are leading him astray. It looks for all the world like his one “handler” is his mom. Is his high school coach peeved because he’s being asked to refund his finder’s fee?
My guess is this kid has a terrible attitude?
And this: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/seth_davis/12/19/Khem.Birch/index.html
snip
Knight’s influence on Oregon is so great that calling him a booster is like calling the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff a concerned citizen. Without Knight, Oregon would be thrilled to go to the Holiday Bowl. Without Knight, Oregon would be asking for money instead of printing it.
Without Knight, Oregon would be … (gasp!) Oregon State.
Knight holds the key to Oregon athletics in his wallet, and everybody there knows it. The new basketball gym — Matthew Knight Arena, named after Phil’s late son — is his project. The school’s uniforms, more than any other team’s, are a billboard for his company, Nike. There is a sense that every new building and every important hire needs Knight’s stamp of approval.
snip
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_rosenberg/01/06/oregon.knight/index.html#ixzz1iRJV7cbr
Yep, it is pretty clear that UO and OSU have gone down different roads, starting a few years ago.
UO got Kelley into the HC role, a new look coach with great winning attitude. OSU gave Riley a long term contract, a coach with very old ideas.
UO went for the new age uniforms, and have made it work. Whatever you personally think of the “fairy wings” on the shoulders, they now make any photo of a UO player instantly recognizable to any youngster. A great marketing move. The new helmets were really cool. Meanwhile OSU has no new lood to use.
Even things within our control, like what is shown on the big screen in the stadium, have been let slide, and we are outdone by others.
If OSU had been going to the Rose Bowl regularly, I might understand the lack of innovation and the complacency, but we are a program in desperate need of uplift. ANYTHING would be helpful, and we get nothing.
Getting better in the future? Better recruiting? MAYBE….but even if so, we have the same predicatable coaches and same who-cares attitude being projected by them. Meanwhile, UW is greatly improved, and immediately fired the Defense coaches who didnt produce. UO is riding high, and USC is obviously back. Stanford has a solid team, assuming they can replace Luck with someone at least reasonable. Other schools are looking to improve, with new coaches.
USC has shown that even under sanctions you can maintain quality, so if UO goes out of bowl games for a couple years, they will surely be back.
I doesnt look to me like the OSU athletic department cares if we are competitive in football, so prepare for some hard times. And this site will have a lot to talk about, if anyone stays around…
I think it will
Well said.
Meyer bans player’s use of Twitter. http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/01/03/new-head-coach-meyer-bans-buckeyes-from-using-twitter/?test=latestnews
He should ban tattoos.
Jack, can you verify that by contract each of the original Pac-10 teams automatically get 200 tickets to the Rose Bowl every year whether their team is in it or not. My cousin, who is a Duck and at the game, said he saw Bob DC at the game and he was cheering and smiling when the Ducks made a big play!
Each member institution in the Pac not playing in a Rose Bowl or in the BCS CG in the Pac gets 250 tickets except:
1) USC and UCLA get 1,250 for the Rose Bowl if not participating in the game, or
2) USC or UCLA get 750 for the Rose Bowl if the other LA team is participating but they are not
In addition, each member school gets a complimentary eight tickets for the RB (and the BCS CG when a member institution plays in it) with all expenses paid for and a $50 per diem for no more than five days (each event). These eight are to include the member institutions’ AD, head coach, senior women’s AD rep, faculty athletics rep, school president/chancellor and board members (council or regents)… or a proxy if one cannot attend.
So that is probably true that Bob DC was cheering on the Ducks! Looks like a good ole boy fraternity where everyone makes lots of money, has fun at games with expenses paid for. I guess that is why OSU needs more of our money so Bob DC can continue to party.
Forgot to say thanks to Jack, the encyclopidia. Where do you find this stuff!
I can’t remember. I think it’s in the Pac 12 Handbook. I was reading it in July, and that part sparked my interest. It’s always worth knowing the perks our employees are getting beyond the salaries.
Also rumor, Marcus Wheaton submitted paper work to the NFL.
LaMike James said that the Rose Bowl was so much fun that he will consider coming back for one more year.
Yikes, either one of these could be trouble.
Can anyone confirm?
he probably did. he’s a junior and it’s a good process to go through regardless. I doubt he bolts for the draft he’s scarcely on anyone’s radar. he would benefit from another year… where he catches more TDs.
LMJ needs to learn to block. The times he tried this year almost got his QB killed. If he can’t block, he’s destined to playing as a third down back or a KR.
Thanks for the great news about Wheaton! No way L James comes back.
Another QB getting an offer?
http://twitter.com/#!/GregBiggins/statuses/153736544878993409
Did we offer him a greyshirt because we are out of scholies or does he have bad grades and need to take the SAT again?
According to the Rivals data base his gpa is 3.68. The only offers he’s received are from Idaho and Northern Arizona.
Maybe it’s because Riley has a defeatist attitude and believes he can’t compete (recruit) with the other Pac-12 coaches.
Can anyone educate me: When was the last time Oregon State had a black quarterback?
Just out of curiosity…
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vnQqkXy3NE&w=960&h=720%5D
Pretty sure it was Terrance Bryant, who didn’t see the field much after Jonathan Smith got the job over him.
http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bryant_terrance00.html
Looks like good film, a grey shirt would be nice and not overcrowd the position. Must be a grades issue?
More bad news, according to both Scout and Rivals, 4 Star DE and the number 2 recruit out of Hawaii picks the Ducks. He is 6′ 7″ and very athletic, just like the kids Coach Kelly wants in his system. The number 1 recruit from Hawaii is also a Punahoe teammate at 6’7″ and he picked Stanford.
None of the top 10 players from Hawaii have picked the Beavs. What is going on, we used to get great players from there.
Buckner is decent, but I think he’s overrated. Kamatule and their DT (Latu?) really caused more problems for their opponents than anyone. Buckner is a decent fit at Nikegon, but he’s not as fast as who they typically get at end.
Of course, I say that from watching his 2010 tape back in February. I was so impressed by his DL teammates that I had to look them up and see who they were. For all I know he killed it this year and was the only reason Punahou won the ILH this year.
LOL .. well, for starters, we used to go to bowl games and used to compete with the big boys. Now we get wasted by them, and dont go to a bowl, while both Stanford and UO go to BCS bowls….
There is that.
Seumalo visiting USC on Jan. 13th.
“It’s USC,” Seumalo said when asked about taking the trip. “I never thought they would ever even recruit me let alone offer me a scholarship. I still can’t believe it. I never thought I was good enough to play at a school like that. I am going to visit there just to check it out.”
Um. Shit-in-the-pants time?
No. He’ll be a Beaver. I’m not worried.
Didn’t people say the same damn thing about Tyner?
Look where he committed.
Only difference with Seumalo is that we don’t have 2 years to make him change his mind.
Signing day will be 2 weeks from his visit. If he just wants a free visit, then he wouldn’t be glorifying USC so much.
Are you guys blind? I though this site was supposedly bereft of orange-tinted glasses.
How is a guy who never officially committed the same as a guy who committed? You act like him going on a visit is the end of the world. I’m confident he’ll come back from the visit and still be solid with the Beavers. I know it’s USC, but I still think he’ll sign with the Beavers. No need to be so gloom and doom right now.
I am worried. Like he said it’s USC.
Sad thing is we all know how MR will react if Seumalo bolts for USC. “Golly, its a great opportunity for the kid, the whole Beavs family wishes him well.”
Also, remember in the discussion of him playing OL or DL it was said that his mom doesn’t want him to be coached by his dad……hmmmm.
Haha. I can hear Riley now.
Riley should take Isaac out behind the woodshed and literally beat the crap out him. Maybe it would cost MR his career, but damn I would respect him!!!!! Mike Leach would not put up with kind of shit from a young buck. There is absolutely no reason he should be going to visit USC.
Wow and he is FROM CORVALLIS for God’s sake. This could be embarrassing.
Is this for real?
He needs a spanking from dad! He basically said, “my dad works at a crap school.”
Where do you think he learned to feel that offers from USC only go to top notch players while it is no big deal to have an offer from OSU?
Maybe this is a real insight into the mentality of his dad. The only member of Riley’s staff with an attitude seems to be Cav and he is beginning to look like just a foul mouthed old guy with less than spectacular results. I’m so ready for a shakeup.
I think its a legitimate risk to lose him. Who, as an 18-year old, wasn’t interested in leaving their hometown and experiencing something new? Barkley is coming back, USC is likely to be a Pac-12 champ or 2nd next year, its USC, and there’s the girls. He wouldn’t face OSU on an annual basis, and family will always be there for him. And you know Riley won’t “pressure” him if the USC offer looks tempting.
I don’t think he’ll go, given the chance to play with his brother and his father. But even if its less than 50% chance he goes to USC, its not going to be insignificant.
Riley better respect the USC option, and close with the kid.
“Riley better respect the USC option, and close with the kid.” You mean be proactive? Is that in MR’s nature?
Well, at least it’s not like he hung out at a bunch of Beavs practices, learning the line play and blocking schemes. If he took that kind of knowledge to Fink, he might make Fink look like a half-decent coach. I still don’t know how they didn’t go undefeated last year with all the talent they have on that team… and Fink’s father coaching the D.
But I would worry about anyone going to visit Fink and Ogre. These are guys who talked Markeith Ambles into coming to USC… and also convinced him not to sleep with any of their wives.
Ok… I’m only assuming he’s never slept with any of his college coaches’ wives. Perhaps he learned to hide an affair better after his high school lessons.
“I never thought I was good enough to play at a school like that” That’s the part that bothers me, not good enough for USC but OK to be a Beaver.
You know… aw shucks!
Hey, why in hell would he want to play for us? Why would he want to be on a team that cant beat Sac State?. Esp, why, when he could even just sit on the bench for USC.
This downward spiral has to have consequences like this in our recruiting, so dont be surprised by such turns.
hw in gods name does Jay Strickerz get to officiate the sugar bowl? Aren’t god refs supposed to get the BCS games?
Haha I was just explaining to my GF how terrible he is and I said those exact words. Lol. Great minds.
I actually don’t recall Stricherz doing anything of note this season. We had him for a couple games, and he did a good job in both as I recall. Maybe this is a reward for improvement?
I’ve noticed Kevin Brill has stepped up his game this year also. Although he still looks like an offending player slapped his daughter whenever he blows his whistle. Mike Littlewood did not get the same notice the rest of the Pac refs got apparently. He’s about as inconsistent as he’s always been. Then again, Brill is on several coaches’ shit lists for the years leading up to this. So he may have received extra… um… help in the off-season.
Maybe all the talk the Commish did about reviewing the sorry state of PAC 12 officiating did some good?
You answered your own questioin….Strickerz does consider himself a “god ref”. I mean how many times in the last 10 years has he decided the fate of a P-10 game instead of the players?
Simi Kuli spotted at the Valley Center. He found Glover’s missing class and they both should take part in spring practice.
They are also giving S. Jackson, A. Levitre, C. Ochocinco, and V. Butler 4 more years of college eligibility. We have a chance at making the Kraft foods fight hunger bowl!
If the named did get more eligiblility, they would surely get schollys from USC, UO, or UW……no way would they stoop to playing more at OSU.
Could I ask an uninformed question here? What effect does a redshirt or grey shirt have on scholarships? There is a team limit of 85 per year. Did James Rodgers take one of the 85 for five years, or just four years? Just a little confused on the limits.,
Redshirts count toward the limit and greyshirts do not.
Overall the recruit class fills needs and looks solid. There is a slight concern about speed and based on previous years, a slight skepticism that everyone will show up by the fall. But having said that, this is the best base group recruited in several years by the Beavers. This is a group that will be competitive in the PAC-12, and outside the league.
whether the coaches fail them or not I still see good things happening from the players.
Tonga was in fact the silent commit (read the comments after the “article”) referenced on O-Live. Damn.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/beavers/2012/01/late_sunday_rumors.html
He wasn’t a silent commit. He’s a JUCO player. You just can’t contact them as easily as a HS prospect. I think their coaches are bound by the same rules that say they just can’t talk about their student-athletes. And, unless these pay-sites kept cell numbers or email addresses on these kids from two years ago (and they’re all the same now), then how will they contact any of them.
Just because a pay site doesn’t follow JUCO players and coaches from all NCAA levels (D1 down to JUCO) just can’t talk about kids in any programs because of the tampering rules involved doesn’t mean everything was silent.
And if Tonga simply asked for it to be silent, then our coaches simply following the rules makes that request easy enough. It certainly doesn’t sound that way though.
So much for the o-line rumor that apparently started on those pay sites.
Hey pay sites… I tried to reference you for something for once. A lot of good it did me.
I’m going to go rejoice now.
So he is a mute? We should only recruit kids that can speak.
Didn’t you see the Blindside? Sometimes the mute players turn out to be the best, they just need a rich family to bring them out of their shell and show them they were put on this earth to be football players at the family’s favorite university.
You may be on to something. Does he like potato salad? He can stay with the Resers.
Then there’s the “if we were committed to recruiting a DT” file:
–just got offered by Rich Rod, but deserves to be offered by a whole bunch more IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_SWmrrmYA
His fellow DT is pretty good too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J-DxlCrMmY&feature=related
I found it interesting to watch the play of #17 on #7’s highlight videos and vice versa.
I know… I do that a lot with o-linemen when I can find their QB’s tape as well. I think it tells a lot more (as in additional) about the kid than just a highlight strictly focused on him.
I like the Zian Jones video. At 6’5″ 310 he is imposing without having the big endomorph belly, and seems to moves well and have good reach. He should also be a threat to bat down passes.
I hope Angry’s info on him is correct and he commits. Seems like a better-than-hoped-for consolation out of this coaching staff.
How many kids has Seumalo talked into becoming Beavers too? If he jumps ship will they jump also?
Maybe he’s going down as a double agent?
Thats what she said.