Basketball is still alive and Mitch has 4 more games to prepare for the trip to Sunken Diamond but the focus of most fans now turns to Football.
Thanks to ObjCritic for these thoughts on Spring Practice:
1) Everyone knows DJ’s the presumptive favorite to start. How does that affect a selfless 2022 team? I think they’ll be fine. DJ has said all the right things, even his dad has said the attraction is “the pieces around him (OLine, deep running back stable, TE, D). DJ won’t have to run as much as he did at Clemson, he’ll be allowed to focus on throwing the ball. DJ himself said part of the attraction of the Beavers was the offense and its ability to prep him for the next level. He’ll be put in a position to make all of the offensive pieces shine.
2) DJ’s social media presence. This is under-reported in my opinion. He gets so much more social media attention than OSU is accustomed to its ridiculous. I noted his announcement of transfer to the Beavers had 1.5M views. That’s not just good for DJ. Its good for Smith and the Beavers. Its going to get an underappreciated talents like RB Martinez much more notice. DJ and Martinez continue to sound humble and dedicated to OSU and not the transfer portal, and this could be a tremendous boost to Smith’s continuing progress in building a program.
3) How will the WRs respond? Gould and Bolden are almost certain to respond. How will Dunmore et al respond to the new opportunities before them? Young WRs will have some great opportunities to surprise the conference.
4) How will the RBs be better integrated into the passing attack? This would make the offense very difficult to defend. There’s the obvious run threat of Martinez and Griffin for example, and DJ himself. But what if he might also pass to Martinez, Griffen, Lowe…..
5) DJ and Chiles will help the D and secondary improve. Every day in practice the D will face elite QB talent. That’s a great thing.
Next, On D, what young CBs step up? How does Tongue’s move to LB pan out? How much does DLine play improve? I think this D is going to be fast and make more plays behind the line of scrimmage.
It all(?) comes together this fall. A “completed” Reser full of enthusiastic fans, new QB talent, great RB depth, a reliable impact TE that catches the ball, a D with a full year under Bray, a decent home field schedule (UW, UCLA, Utah)…what’s not to like?
First!
Storyline I’ll be watching. A lot of redundancy from Obj but some other stuff.
-QB battle is an obvious 1. How quickly can the new guys pick up the offense and develop chemistry? How much does BG improve?
– How big of a jump does Velling improve? How does Sharp do as a TE and where does he fit in? Does he jump Overman? I think this is final year?
– How does the WR room shake out? Smith said some of the freshman will likely contribute. Valsin and Dunmore would be nice with their height.
– Who fills in at the RG spot, or is the line shift spots? There is quite a bit of interior lineman with talent and experience. I think they could be better this year.
– I think that this is the best the talent and depth has been since Smith has been here. Can they improve the pass rush as a result? That could go a long ways in helping the secondary that lost 3 starters.
– OLB/edge has a lot of talent on paper but they haven’t proven they can get to the QB. Looking at Chatfield, MMD, Hikle, Saluni, Mccartan, Howard, the transfer from Wyoming.
– ILB should be interesting. Lots of promising young talent there and the addition of Tongue. I know Smith was high on the recruit there, and they have Gordon, Mascarenas.
– Secondary should be fine if Julian is healthy. Depth is a little more concerning tho.
– Does Smith stick with Hayes or can someone else please win the job.
– Punter should be alright with Green there.
– Who’s body’s have really changed? Mcdonald always seems to have the guys in great shape and they do a good job of putting on good weight. I saw that Martinez was up like 15lbs and still fast.
Should be an exciting spring mostly because of the arrival of the new QBs.
What is the prize for third?
Downvote?
Does anybody want a 2023 Beavrecruiting NCAA March Madness bracket challenge this year? It’s about that time. I’m just not motivated for.anything basketball related lately, but could be convinced.
CB is the only real concern for me. Austin and Wright weren’t irreplaceably good last year, but both were solid. Replacing two guys at the same position with above average quality is difficult to do (especially at a position where our recruiting rankings are usually the lowest).
Robinson looked pretty solid too. Remember that a lot of these guys we probably soaking it in from a guy like Grant who is probably the most irreplaceable loss but his impact will be felt for years to come.
I hope OSU can turn the impending media attention on DJ into a positive instead of a negative distraction. I think they can, and i love that other players can benefit from it.
I thought i read for example that ESPN is going to do stories on DJ this off season. With OSU’s 10 win season, DJ CHOOSING OSU, plus landing 4/5* Chiles, media are likely to take notice. But DJ and his “reclamation” will be a big story theme for popular media.
CJS spring ball presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ90hi7oPSQ
Two additional things I’ll be looking at this spring are:
1) Whether the interior D-Line can push the pocket inwards on passing downs
2) Punt/kickoff coverage
Not sure if anyone else saw this but the San Jose St game is being move to Sunday September 3rd.
https://osubeavers.com/news/2023/3/2/football-oregon-state-san-jose-state-announce-2023-schedule-change
So it can be put on a “prominent” tv network the story says. last season their were only like 2-3 games on that Labor Day sunday. Should be same for this season. Will basically be a stand alone game
Ben ferrer gets the start
Raegan Beers with the ceremonial first pitch; accurate toss.
Rueck, Noelle, Eric Ely, and niner in attendance.
New Beaver Blitz interviews up with Lindgren, Joshua Gray, and Ben Gulbranson(BG)
Per Lindgren and BG, Aidan had a memorable completion on a Deep Post route today. The future is bright at Oregon State.
Ben Gulbranson:
https://youtu.be/4GqnZsmq84Y
Joshua Gray:
https://youtu.be/TsIftj94ad4
Coach Lindgren:
https://youtu.be/NpgiAJswsIM
Have to agree with commenter on Lindgren video, though this is just the 1st day of Spring practice; his optimism bled through strongly compared to past seasons.
This has to be Christmas morning, for him.
I’m more interested in the pending PAC 12 media announcement regarding the future of the conference…
We are all waiting for the media rights deal to be finalized. I don’t see the Pac-12 dissolving. The media, Big XII and B1G want the Pac-12 to be dismantled, but not without the approval to expand from the other university presidents. There will be expansion in the next 4-5 years, but how that will look is unknown. It could be that the ACC and Pac-12 are in discussions of forming a merger/alliance once the ACC GOR media deal expires in 2036. my speculation is that will be the endgame for Pac-12.
Was practice open to public? Anyone attend?
I believe JS sticks to private practice with some limited media availability.
Jon Warren is still the worlds worst announcer. Imagine listening to that doofus in high school call a ballgame. Best way to describe it. Does he even know what’s happening half the time. At least Parker will be back this weekend.
Thank god for Jim Wilson because Warren = Nails on a chalkboard
I liked when Warren said the Beavers were bringing in their 7th pitcher and Wilson was like, that is San Diego’s pitcher.
Exactly. I heard that too! Doofus doesn’t even understand what is going on half the time.
There was one early in the game about a liner up the first base line. kept waiting for him to say whether it went fair or foul…….ya know, details the listener would like to know?
What happened to Josh Worden. He’s 10x less cringeworthy.
Josh got hired to call games for the Frisco Ruff Riders (double A ball I believe) in Texas. My bro in law worked there for a short time. The owner was not a nice guy. Hopefully Josh has a better experience.
Josh Warden has a contract with the Frisco Rough Riders, Texas Rangers AA affiliate. I think Jon Warren’s broadcasting history is more w high school girls’ basketball. We Beavs fans have good radio coverage – nice for busy people who like to have it in the background. It can be a little funky but I think its localness is refreshing. I can tolerate Jon Warren muddling through a couple of preseason baseball games but Ann Schatz’s expert rasp -not.
Spring Ball: Day 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-jGC9GCzT4
Man, Aidan made that look effortless on that deep post route.
Word is DJU and Chiles were both impressive today.
It’s day 1 of spring ball, which means absolutely nothing, but still.
It means a lot. It means they’re not awful, for one, but impressive is better than just serviceable or good, too. In short, it means a lot since it beats the alternative.
Somebody down voted that our QBs were good? Good one, loser.
Probably just some duck dong sitting at home bored on another dateless evening
I didn’t down or upvote you but I think it is odd you say the baseball team beating up on low level competition mean nothing but DJU beating up the 2nd string D means something. FWIW, I think both mean something but you never really know how good a team or player is until they are truly tested.
It’s been a long while since that was said of a new OSU QB on Day 1 of spring ball.
It does mean a lot. On the high end it means they’re different, it means teammates will be inspired, motivated, hopeful, and team confidence increases..
“impressive” days are always something to build ion. Good starts are important.
Luton had a lot of “impressive” days in camp when he was anointed over McMaryion.
That first game at Colorado State tho.
Exactly. We talkin bout practice. Not a game…practice.
Did he? I don’t remember that. I thought he was a project from day one.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2017/08/jake_luton_named_oregon_state.html
“He threw the ball very, very well,” Andersen said.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2017/08/marcus_mcmaryion_to_transfer_f.html
Nall and Bolden really saved beaver football during those truly dark times.
Coming from the guy who “Hired the wrong Fu***** guys!” ? Ya, I’ll take Lindgren’s comment of impressive over GA anyday.
Lol @ Jake Luton (and GA).
As Angry pointed out from pretty much the start, Andersen couldn’t recognize, facilitate, and manage good QB play…
BG threw two picks, I assume he was running vs the #1 Defense.
RTFB!
Ha!
From what I read DJU looks impressive physically but missed some guys.
Ouch:
“ Gulbranson has the edge in schematics, of course, but it didn’t necessarily look like it Tuesday. He completed just 1 of 3 passes in his first series and then tossed interceptions in each of his next two series, sparking a pair of roars along the defensive side of the field. He completed 6 of 10 passes, but the two interceptions overshadowed the good”.
He was playing against the first string defense. DJ played with the second string and Chiles was the third string.
Defense should be ahead of the offense in spring ball, but ball security has to be priority. We have seen what interceptions can do to an offensive drive. See USC and Utah in 2022. If we want to make a leap from last year, this team cannot turn the ball over by losing the turnover margin in a game. I would like to hear how DJ does against the #1 defense. DJ will most likely be working on throwing mechanics, meshes with RB’s, and learning to go through progressions in the passing game. Once he picks up those 3 areas, he should jump BG. This is outside of learning the playbook and learning the lingo to call plays.
I like the move by JS to pit BG against the first team. It shows the other guys they’re new and they’re going to have to earn their spots.
And BG can lose his…
It’s not so much DJ and Chiles need to “earn the chance to go against the #1’s” as it is BG has more of the offensive playbook down and it’s more or less BG’s job to lose. Heck, he could have lost out on Travis Throckmorton this year or Dom Montiel for that matter if they appear to have better throwing power, accuracy, and game manager abilities. DJ and Chiles can learn a lot of the intangibles from BG such as getting the team in the right play by audibling at the line of scrimmage. BG’s ability to read the defense pre-snap last year is what helped us win the Civil War in 2022.
Really? We attempted 0 passes on the last 5 (dominant) drives. They had 9 in the box on most plays. There was no checking out of pass plays going on…they just couldn’t stop us.
Still mentioning Montiel as an option…
I love Montiel’s HS tape.
Dude is a slinger, for sure. But he has accuracy on the run and (college) power from the pocket.
If he sticks around, I can see him being a wildcard who can make defenses confused… not the primary, but always ready to steo in and provide asymmetrical offense.
His skills are a little Mahomes-like, without the arm.
I don’t dismiss that.
He’s in the QB room and a walk-on and on the team. so ya, I’m mentioning him. This is the deepest QB room OSU has ever had in a single season. 5 QB’s on the roster and 4 are scholarship.
It’s pretty crazy how many players that I’ve never even heard of that have already played.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/former-espn-president-says-acc-pac-12-should-consider-merging/ar-AA18lgzj?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=27fa6d104021459090dd38a658e5568b&ei=21
Former ESPN exec says PAC-12 and ACC should merge
This is filler that we can write.
I do, however, like the video talking about Notre Dame being more valuable than Oregon and Washington combined. That should give some perspective. But the only reason I watched it was because they showed a pylon with the golf wedge beaver on it in the middle of the video, as they were talking about Notre Dame.
That was an odd graphic.
Saw my first DJ commercial this morning–Kiefer Kia, with Joshua Gray.
I think it looks more like the face of a Driver.
How Notre Dame is not a part of the Big 10 perplexes me.
They have a clause with the ACC where if ND ever decides to join a conference, it’s either the ACC or pay the ACC an astronomical amount of $ they would not otherwise get with ND basketball and some football home games each year.
One neat thing is if the Pac and ACC do form some kind of alliance, Notre Dame is involved, and the B1G can then stick it.
It has been tried as they are the obvious geographic and academic fit. They are too good to join a conference for football and that how fucking Nebraska ended up in the B1G. They also indirectly fucked up the proposed merger with the Pac 12 and Big Ten a few years back which would’ve been awesome for both conferences. USC and Stanford would not agree to it because they would have to give up their stupid games with Notre Dame. F Notre Dame!
First day of practice reports says DJU was overthrowing WRs on deep routes. They must have been used to slowing do to catch throws from everyone else.
You’ve got to think the whole team can see and begin believing the possibilities with qbs who can make those throws.
An overthrow seems like an easy fix for both qb and wr. The opposite is having wrs behind the defense for about 20 yards and then knowing they must idle back before they outrun the qbs arm, and then the gap closes for a chasing db pretty quickly.
Exciting times to be a Beav.
You could see them slowing for BGs throws.
Its expected that new QBs and the WRs will have to work on timing.
Imagine, deep outs and double moves will now be an option! Not just streaking down the sideline and hoping to drop it in the basket…
The fact Card caught a deep post pass from Aidan who has a “live arm” per Lindgren means Card isn’t used to having to slow down for passes like the veteran OSU WR’s do for BG. Will be interesting to see how the WR’s are able to adjust their speed for multiple QB’s throwing abilities.
Slowing down is an adjustment. If a receiver adjusts before locating the ball, that receiver might not get many more chances to make adjustments, in the future.
Deep back shoulder throws… quick outs that are quick… beating the safety up the seam…
What’s our depth at slot?
Looks like Bolden, Irish, and Card are slot.
Pretty speedy lineup.
Am I bored enough at 9:00 on a Wednesday night, to watch my first Beaver MBB game of the season?
They’re riding a one-game winning streak into the tournament! They’ve also only won one game away from Gill all season. Odds aren’t great.
All right… time for a real rant… tldr: whatever
I’m disappointed at the extreme lack of creativity in Pac dealings.
I get that all the presidents and regents and whoever need to come together in consensus, but the consensus they seek is always banal.
At the beginning of our last TV deal, the Pac Network should have been gifted to all as an app… or at least should have had a five-year goal of making itself accessible to anyone who was connected.\
I said it here more than once, at the time. The future isn’t being strapped to cable. And that will be true within three or four years, for many, if not sooner.
I don’t like Amazon as a partner. They don’t operate in a manner that is conducive to Pac 12 thought, and they have yet to prove they can be a good steward of content. If anything, I would say content is empirical to them, not human.
The “merger/alliance” with the ACC is cool and all, but we’d then still be tied to a crap dinosaur of a TV provider, because short term money.
If I could have my way, I would save the ACC by enveloping them into the Pac–changing the name of the conference enough to break their existing crap contract, and synthesizing them and us as some new entity–and being rid of their TV partners.
I looked at Apple’s MLS broadcasts, and, except for commercials during soccer, it was better than any broadcast in the US puts together for US Football, except for maybe RedZone. And the comparison comes, because US Football announcers are beholden to the hype, not the game at hand.
Too many times I’ve watched a commercial for a game that will happen three weeks from the game I’m watching, then bonehead1 spends the next segment talking about the power rankings in the SEC East and maybe Michigan and Clemson. The game doesn’t matter.
My rant is simple.
Apple is cash rich.
Apple is ready to invest, long term.
What Apple is ready to invest in is up in the air, apparently. But why can’t they be convinced to partner with the Pac in ways more than just media rights?
Why can’t they be convinced to partner with the Pac in ways more than media?
Why can’t they invest in each of the campuses to be connected like no other resource, ever before?
Tell everyone that it isn’t just about money. Tel everyone that it’s sometimes about stepping forward into a new, connected world. And it’s our job to give all our students the cutting edge of technology, in order for them to succeed.
Imagine Apple connecting the whole of the Western US, just because they wanted sports content. It would be a perfect mistake, because they would then be in confluence with all the schools in their region.
Let’s be honest, all the cash is in the Bay Area.
Oregon goes nowhere, without Stanford… duh.
Washington can pretend all they want. It’s what they do.
The cash is in the Bay Area, and nobody is tapping it for the better.
So you like Apple eh?
I fucking hate Apple with a passion… almost as much as I hate being tethered to some bullshit cable company, just because I want to spend four hours out of every week to watch said cable.
But I see that they can take a product and polish it like nothing I’ve seen in a long time, and they have a fuck-ton of cash… and the future… in their hands… if they want… if they diversify.
There’s no way I trust ESPN, Fox, ABC, CBS, or NBC to broadcast our games, anymore, because they all pretty much suck, since their mandates are selling product, not the game at hand.
Apple does not do that… granted, with a small sample, thus far.
Interesting thoughts. I think OSU, w/NVIDIA could come ip with some ways to make the televised product unique. If Apple is also in the mix, there could be some very slick packaging.
And could the conference on its own integrate tech to improve its woeful refereeing? With nvidia and Apple there should be cutting edge video graphics, viewing angles and renderings from multiple angles, replay, accuracy in spotting the ball, confirmation of first downs, TD’s…all unique to the PAC. Then players upload their game highlights to their social media and have unique, high quality products(?).
Could OSU’s upcoming NVIDIA supercomputer use some of its capacities for major sports’ game day video processing, renderings, and presentation? I don’t know, but it seems like there’s some unexplored opportunities.
All Pac players become ambassadors for the Apple brand, NLI style. What Nike did for the their brand selling shitty gear to millions via University of Nike, Apple has 1000 athletes to pump their gear and streaming.
I wonder sometimes what these schools want.
You have a giant tech company negotiating with you, and all you’re thinking is, “How much money can I hget from you?”
Instead, why not ask them to partner with you in connecting the conference and making learning that much easier to access via their interface?
Free user acquisition can’t be worthless to someone like Apple.
Also, anything that has become dominant over the years was pretty much easy to access and widely available.
The Pac Network is only in 14 million homes. That’s it.
Make it an app, and anyone, anywhere can access it at any time.
Make it free in certain developing markets, as facebook does. Make it ubiquitous, and people will watch it. Make it an app, and I can ask the bar to put it on their smart TV, instead of looking for a bar with the right provider.
Also, I choose Apple instead of Amazon, because you have to go look at their MLS broadcasts to understand what I mean by polished.
No other live streaming is anywhere close to what they produce. You’ll get it when you see it.
MBB hung tough for a while, but an eight-minute scoring drought (big surprise) is probably going to do them in. Down 55-43 with about seven minutes left. Bill Walton is especially annoying tonight, but he did have to do an on-air apology for calling Beav great Steven Johnson dead when he was doing the Beav/Quack game. Johnson is very much alive and living in Portland.
Duh. That wasn’t predictable?
Fire Stinkle
Steve Johnson probably wishes he was dead after watching this shit show of our formerly great basketball program!
Some encouraging MBB stats for the year:
61.4 pts/game – that ranks 357th out of 363 teams in the country, so we weren’t last!
41.3% fg – 330th out of 363, better than 33 other teams in the country!
32.2% 3pt fg – 291st out of 363, we cracked the top 300!
Tinkle deserves an extension and a raise.
With numbers like those, you’d think we might be last in the country in assists/game, but nope, what a pleasant surprise, we finished with 10.2, which was good enough for 352nd our of 363. That’s right, a full 11 teams worse than the Beavs. That could almost be considered overachieving.
The perpetual rebuild marches on.
At this point, cut MBB and bring back men’s track and cross country.
Very encouraging numbers! So really good progress being made by the program. But hey, he’s a nice guy and that’s all that matters I guess. Little interest in program? Doesn’t matter! He’s a nice guy. Historically bad season followed by another incredibly bad season? Doesn’t matter! He’s a nice guy. Revenue, attendance and relevance down? Doesn’t matter! He’s a nice guy.
Based on those results above, this team would have to make some monumental gains in 7 months to even be middle of the pac next year. Lol. And people think he’s got the pieces to do that if he can just keep this core group together? C’mon now.
Walton actually called Tinkle a “brilliant” coach last night. His over the top cheerleading for the pac 12 has been old since the 1st time I heard him.
It is his job.
In that context, he should continue to be paid.
He’s also an ally from UCLA who dislikes what is going on. He may not be the most coherent advocate, but he is not someone who allows himself to be ignored.
Turnovers!
Everyone likes a good pastry.
I guess it shouldn’t surprise me by now, but it’s almost weirdly fascinating how the offense that Tinkle runs cannot get open looks against any P-12 team (except maybe Cal). It is so hard for them to score and it’s boring to watch.
Tinkle has had enough people pass through the program over the years – curious what their opinions are of what the deal is with the program. It just seems very stagnant and undynamic. Even when the sons were playing – it wasn’t like another player came in and blossomed.
Program needs a reset. Now
Tired of excuses. Fire Stinkle
I’d say that the only thing keeping Tinkle now is the silence of several big money boosters. Once they begin making statements about how poorly this is for the program, Barnes may be urged to can Tinkle. He obviously isn’t leaving on his own.
Tinkle is like the stubborn uncle that has a bunch of opinions and no one at the reunion really wants to talk to anymore, who used to be the cool uncle when we were all kids, but now he’s just annoying, abrasive and doesn’t make much sense.
Canzano (somewhere) said Barnes has faith in Tinkle. Warren Washington didn’t, left Beavs, playing for ASU last night.
Mountain West Tourney going on today.
Maybe they should take a step back and ask if their patience is helping the Pac 12 media negotiations, or if their inaction is easily shown as the apathy it is, to be ridiculed in any other conference.
Amen
And everyone seems to forget the 5-27 season where Tinkle clearly had no depth on the roster and no plan after his son got injured and was out for the season. It’s not like last year hadn’t happened before. At one point, I think he had four top 100 players on his roster and all he could get was around .500. GP-2 fell into his lap and the elite eight team was really just catching lighting in a bottle as they were headed for another mediocre season before they got hot.
preaching to the choir
Not a lot of bench minutes. Looks like our core is Pope, Taylor and Bilodeau. The rest are development hopes, but players don’t really develop under Tinkle so we just need to hope those three stick around for the new coach.
Add Rataj to that core
0/6 last night. Is he really that good?
Well Tinkle got some great news: https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2023/03/jordan-pope-glenn-taylor-jr-vow-to-return-to-oregon-state-mens-basketball-in-2023-24.html
I mean those guys are the heart and soul of the team. Tinkle’s teams are always much better when he has a lot of veteran influence. I think you fire Tinkle and those guys are bolting and we are back to peg zero. Tinkle’s body of work has been a couple horrid years, a whole lot of mediocre(when they should have been good) and a couple of very bright spots. Statistically, his body of work has been pretty unimpressive offensively and mediocre to excellent defensively minus a couple seasons. I believe Tinkle should keep his job as long as he keeps this team together and gets some help in the front court. KEEP IN MIND I am speaking in terms of the potential for next year. Believe me, I am tired of his shockingly lackluster conference record. If a lot of players start bolting and this culture narrative falls apart. You send him packing. It just doesn’t make sense at this point to fire him if his best players are returning. If he doesn’t put up a tournament caliber team next year. Send him packing.
It’s a long off-season!
So the bigs will have more time to not develop?
I wonder if we started a gofundme for a $10m goal and spammed it out to other blogs and forums, asking for 1 dollar from 10m people… would it work?
I mean… first to market makes it a novelty many people out there would indulge.
Also… have you met people?
Dude who just asked for a million dollars on YT got a million dollars, because he was first to market.
You don’t ask, you don’t get.
I was kind of thinking the same thing – regardless of how the season went this year – the key for Tinkle was not having a bunch of players bail out after the season. The team needs players like Taylor and Pope to build around – they seemed to spend a lot of time early in the season figuring out who the Alphas were. Tinkle would be wise to let those guys lead.
Not sure they have many scholarships to give out for next season.
“Tinkle needs a veteran group for success”
So this explains why Tinkle always has his best players in the doghouse and he jacks them around all season with petty mind games and weird substitution patterns?
He benched Pope and Taylor during key stretches in games and doesn’t have a clue of how to develop talent. He has chased away more talent than he has kept and can’t identify basic skill sets needed for his teams.
He has no offense and no sense of in game coaching to speak of.
I can’t agree with those defending him after these last 2 years. I said it in the previous thread: Any 4 angrybeavs could become the next staff and get as good or better results. Mens college basketball isn’t that hard to coach if you’re not a complete buffoon.
Tinkle hasn’t had any team chemistry for years because he chases 4-5 players away by the end of every season. I think it is a tactic to create a ready made excuse for the next year when “ we are just struggling to come together as a team and guys are still learning our system”. It’s all a facade to cover up his own coaching deficiencies. Somehow his offense is so complicated it takes decent players 10-12 games to lose all fundamentals they learned in high school and finally surrender to the dribble and chuck a 3 offense.
I think getting curbstomped each year by the conference would be tolerable only if you knew it would result in some action to remedy the problem. This will just be more of the same. Good thing he got rid of Stevie Thompson last year. That guys was obviously the problem. Which coach will he throw under the bus this year? Tinkle is a fraud and he has a lot of people buffaloed in the AD dept when he bloviates the same cliches year after year and no one really will demand better.
It may be that he is just being rewarded for 2 NCAA appearances but man it is a brutal punishment for any Beav fan who appreciates watchable basketball, and Tinkle does not deliver such a product.
I think tinkle may have taken too many elbows to the noggin.
Maybe he’s drinking beaverjuice, the kind he’s wringing out of his shirts.
“Any 4 angrybeavs could become the next staff and get as good or better results. Mens college basketball isn’t that hard to coach if you’re not a complete buffoon.” I am not sure if you actually believe this, but I would love to see a bunch of idiots from a forum run a college basketball team and realize that they are great at complaining about basketball, but not very good at coaching it. This is how bad fans have become. Suddenly people on these forums think they are Coach K.
Not Coach K, just better than Tinkle, which as I said can’t be too difficult to match or improve upon.
I would peg at least two of us who could do what is being done.
I hesitate on that, because I can develop bigs.
No idea how a big can’t develop bigs, but here we are.
Looked up the current contract details.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2021/04/wayne-tinkles-new-oregon-state-coaching-contract-worth-some-172-million-over-six-years.html
Going to be a lift to pay off that contract over the next two years – throw in the expected decline in revenue from the media rights deal and its even tougher.
I think the “new deal” only kicked in this year – through ’27 – and its 17.2 – not 172m
Beavs have a grad transfer CB from Middle Tennessee State on an official visit this week.
https://twitter.com/Double3way__/status/1633489340168011776?t=tSI3VL-oVkWSqJ45R_lWgA&s=19
Good PFF ratings for two years in a row. He would be a really solid pick up.
For fall camp?
For those interested, Oregon State per MGM Sportsbook, Oregon State Football is +12500 for winning the national championship in football. Draft Kings has the Beavs at +10000. Get in on the action now before DJU is named the starter.
Sick!!
I’m going to take out a second mortgage!
for reference, $20 pays out $2,520 @ +12500 odds. $100 pays out $12,600 at +12500 odds. $10,000 pays out $1.2M
What are the odds to win the pac? I put 100 on it last year and I think the payout would’ve been like 2000. Also put 100 on the over for wins and got 300 so it covered my bet for the pac championship.
conference championship odds aren’t out yet. Expect those to come out more around Fall camp.
None of this sounds rational.
Is it possible to place a bet now using a credit card and without having to upload your driver’s license and a ton of other annoying shit? Fucking George Bush……….wasn’t that asshole supposed to be about freedom and free markets!?
Everyone is being spoon fed lies. The bigger government is in creating laws and backdoor deals, the less freedoms we have as citizens. The less laws there are, the more freedom we have as citizens. There should come a time when there is no need for new laws except every 10-15 years to amend existing laws. unfortunately, the American government is a corporation more than anything.
That’s a name I haven’t heard in a minute
It’s Bush’s fault and you’re a racist.
First, it probably is W’s fault.
He was idiot boy, and the world is better off with him making paintings of stuff.
But W was not in any way racist.
Donald J Trump, on the other hand, has a fifth-grade lexicon, steeped in Bircher and Klan rhetoric.
You’ll note he’s suddenly become the anti-W whatever he thinks he is. Karl Rove is worth four-hundred birds in the bush.
amirite?
Meanwhile, the rest of the GOP is trying to cut off profits for both groceries and big ag, because they don’t understand that what could be almost a no-cost thing–feeding everyone in our country–is fodder for them to shit on poor people.
Oh no… most of the poor people are whites… whio voyed for these asshats.
Fucking holy hell!
When does the fucking stupidity stop?
When do people get to finally become people?
Didn’t realize that gas prices were higher under Trump than Biden, didn’t realize Biden came up with “The most Favored Nations” that lowered insulin costs right before he left office, but wasn’t signed or known to the public until Biden got into office, didn’t realize the supply chain and grocery stores having inflation costs on all goods was because the ones in control were the Democrats in the House and the Senate. There has been a filibuster in Congress for the last 3-7 years now. Nothing that should be getting done, is getting done by either party. The only thing that is being done is the printing of money to be laundered through Ukraine. So blame RINO’s and Democrats for the situation we’re in right now.
Amirite? No, but you are boring as hell.
I sense projection
“Fucking George Bush……….wasn’t that asshole supposed to be about freedom and free markets!?”
Sorry… did you miss the whole George W Bush administration and the GOP laws put forth?
Are you being serious, here?
They are and always have been big brother.
We told you so.
You’re welcome.
Alan Greenspan, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, John Bolton, Condoleezza Rice… who else?
I looked it up to make sure memory was correct, and it was, but what is interesting, and I didn’t know, is papa Bush also banned gambling.
“Amateur Sports Protection Act of 1992”
“Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006”
Free market, baby!
Freedom!
Anyway, are there any sites that accept credit cards and a simple process, or is it still a mess out there thanks to the Bushes?
2nd day of practice up. Oladapo said that DJ factored into him coming back and to win a pac 12 championship. Hodgins said from when he got there to now that guys are more invested and stay longer etc.
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/watch-oregon-state-football-talks-spring-football-day-2
I didn’t realize Hodgins was coming back. That’s huge
I love players like him.
He’s a spark plug who the special talent can work around. And I don’t mean that as a slight. I mean that as recognizing a foundation is the stability of a system.
He does his job well.
It’s like John Madden used to say, “You know you’re doing your job well, if you’re name isn’t called.”
That’s not quite what he does, but he is a stable, modular piece of success. His defense is what provides edges.
So I guess we know who the team prefers at QB
I continue to be impressed with how well these guys interview. Its very understandable for young people to be nervous for on-camera interviews. They’re seem relatively comfortable and are well spoken, and often give answers that are above the sports tropes. And its consistent across the team. I think it was Fisher-Morris last year that said “We want to change the narrative,” that’s not common. I don’t know if its prep and training they receive, and or Smith is just recruiting smarter players. I suspect its both, and definitely the latter. Maybe its also related to their personal experience with social media.
Hodgins and Oladapo have been doing this for awhile. I would say both have come a long way from when they first started doing interviews and didn’t know what to say.
yeah… um… it’s talking
Cal fired their basketball coach today. Lucky fan base.
I saw the headline that said “PAC-12 program fires coach this afternoon” and I got excited for a minute.
Lol! Barnes probably having a nice laugh at our expense. “Haha suckers!”
Now watch the Cal basketball renaissance occur over the next 3 years.
Meanwhile back at Gill, Tinkle still trying to figure out team chemistry and find an offense that he can teach to a team that can’t shoot.
He just needs more time…
Money too. More money is nice
Um… yea?
The AD is definitely laughing at us.
Question: Does s/he know about this laughter?
Barnes is probably kicking himself for the post-tourney extension
Mic’d Up | Coach Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCursHnh5E
JS droppin fbombs lol. Didn’t know good ole god fearin boys could do that.
Haha “you got MY number”
What number is DJ? He’s been “Big Cinco” for a while, isn’t Fenwick 5?
DJ 5 and Fenwick is 1 now
Love that he called Leavengood, “coach”. Shows respect to him and let’s him know the coaches expect him to be a leader. Love how true, honest and genuine Coach Smith is with this team.
also, pretty common…
Smith is way more Erickson type coach than Riley. You see it in players like Harrison, Wright, Cooper. All talking a lot on the field.
God damnit, will this fucking winter ever end?!!
Sorry, just sick of the shitty weather
But how do you FEEL about it?!?
Well the snow pack is in pretty good shape and still growing.
Going to ski pow
Snow in April last year. And bad air due to fire season the same month :3
Sedge up with vids from day 2; Bray, Oladapo, and Hodgins.
Note how Bray and Oladapo stay on message re: DJ and the others in the QB room.
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/watch-oregon-state-football-talks-spring-football-day-2
I posted above but there were some good things to takeaway.
Sorry, missed your post.
To me both Bray and Oladapo answered questions about QB in a way that shows Jonathan has made it clear that he wants everyone to view this as a competition with no clear winner yet determined. That’s his story and they all seem to be stickin’ to it.
I view this as a good sign of JS running things the right way.
I trust 9er to not choose Gelakoska.
Riley never had the chance to
Riley chose to never have that chance, rather than look at other QBs in that class… or at his summer camp.
Ranking Poyer as a free agent prospect:
“21. S Jordan Poyer
Yes, he’s almost 32. But he’s long been one of the league’s most reliable safeties, even if the wider acclaim only arrived the past two years when he was finally recognized as a Pro Bowler (2022) and All-Pro (2021) for the first time. It sounds like his time could be up with the Buffalo Bills, but Poyer should be a boon to other teams on the cusp of the Super Bowl.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2023/03/09/nfl-free-agency-2023-best-players-lamar-jackson-jimmy-garoppolo/11425261002/
I think DJ at qb creates a very legitimate opportunity at a playoff spot and undefeated season for the Beavs.
The entire east coast will be aware of his talent and the hype of a huge career turnaround for him would garner both attention and votes for OSU.
I think he could be worth 5-10 spots in the rankings just based on east coast voters knowing where he is playing and keeping an eye on scores next season.
In addition.
13-0 is a tall order, but it’s possible.
I wonder if there will ever be any two QB packages, or if its just some wildcat and direct snaps for RBs?
I bet two QB sets will be very, very rare if seen at all. DJ likely gives Smith the opportunity to eschew trickery in favor of straight football with a strong conventional running attack coupled with passing to all levels of the field.
All depends on QB play and DJ returning to his St. John Bosco form.
JS won’t have to run as many trick plays this year. Sure the players like them but they just may not need them. Might just line up in trick play formations but just run a regular play to keep defenses preparing for things that won’t come.
Good point, giving opposing D’s something to waste time on may be the only reason we see tricks or, as you say, trick formations.
They could put DJ and Chiles out there with 1 of them in the slot as a decoy and possibly do a double pass like they did with Dunmore last season. Though that is extremely risky to do with a QB, especially a QB of the future like Aidan.
Ewing out after 6 years at Georgetown, “Georgetown finished 7-25, and Ewing – the school’s greatest player – ends his tenure with a 75-109 mark, the second-worst winning percentage in the school’s storied history. ”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2023/03/09/georgetown-coach-patrick-ewing-out/11376012002/
Not too surprising…when he first started he talked publicly about plans for recruiting activities he had to be told would be violations…
I have NO idea what college coaches are available to replace Tinkle @ OSU. Who is likely to be available that could produce a winner?
Grant McCasland and Niko Medved are two names that come to mind
i think the era of Oregon State trying to bill itself as a “destination school” is over. Better to hire some mid-major guy from wherever – who can recruit and develop – and structure the contract so that he could leave for a better gig with no penalty, provided the new gig pays X percent more. Better that buyout money goes into the coach’s pocket than to OSU.
Or find a coach like Cuonzo Martin – who was decent at Tennessee but couldn’t win over the fans who were still chapped about Bruce Pearl being forced out over NCAA violations. There have to be a few coaches who don’t have great relationships with their AD.
Baseball vs a surprising WSU today. They are off to a good start at 11-1. Both teams haven’t played any particularly tough teams. So it’ll be the first test for both teams. Beavs will need pitching to be on point this week, starters will need to go deep into games. They have two mid week games next week so everyone will have to throw. Not an ideal schedule heading to Stanford next weekend.
Greg Fuchs is a regular for WSU this year.
Cougs look like more of a challenge than I’d thought but I’ll stay with my thinking that there would be two L’s after Coppin State and before Stanford. We’ve got one to go and WSU is probably it.
Can’t sleep on Nevada though, they’ve got a win over USC and their RPI is similar to OSU&WSU with a tougher schedule to date.
I’d feel better if Beav errors weren’t running at 1/game. WSU avg 1.8/game, so there’s that.
It’s early but Chiles may be the best QB talent on campus. A friend of mine is an assistant at SDSU and watched him play over the years in HS and told me “don’t be surprised if AC wins the starting job as a freshman over DJU and BG”.
Nope, Chiles will only see the field if there is an injury.
I disagree, I bet he sees the field. Probably won’t win QB1 initially but he’ll play in lopsided wins… and if DJU is struggling at all late in the season and the coaches feel AC is the answer, he’ll start. That said, I hope DJU lights it up and AC only plays late in games.
BG is the next man up and will have to struggle as well
Not necessarily. It’ll be a completion and my hunch is the coaches know AC is the future. They’ll invest in him vs BG if it’s close… but it won’t be. AC wins QB2. BG is destined for the portal.
BG’s game experience will keep him ahead of AC all year.
BG could hit the portal depending on recruits they land in this year’s cycle.
All year? ACs talent vs BGs lack of talent may have something to say about that. Yet to be seen but BGs “game experience” didn’t help us much last year. To win 10 games with that dude and Nolan at QB was nothing short of a miracle. I’ll take game changing talent over “game experience” any day.
BG would do well in the portal. He is an an adequate qb, capable game manager, experienced, smart. . .
Stop…..you’re making me blush! But I’m more than adequate toots.
Nice problem to have. And a new one!
AC could c time in mop up duty up to 4 games but beyond that it would have to be injuries. Not that he isn’t talented enough to play more tho but the coaches won’t and shouldn’t unless they JUST can’t keep him off the field and I don’t see that happening.
I think the portal has changed a coaches approach to redshirting elite talent. Best player plays when they give you the best shot at winning. Player movement is so fluid it doesn’t make sense to RS anymore otherwise you’re just developing a kid for another program as grad transfer. Plus the really good ones hit the draft early.
That is a good point. Now that Smith has landed him and has him on campus it’s extremely important to keep him in this day and age.
As far as leaving early for the draft. He has all of the physical tools already to play aside from obviously adding weight and strength. He’s only 17 and is in very good hands with coach Macdonald.
Aidan also wants to become a Veterinarian so he will need to be able to go through the vet program. He may want to play NFL, but he will need to decide if he wants to pursue being a vet out of College or a career to fall back on if and when he goes to the NFL.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1633645511235477505/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1633645511235477505¤tTweetUser=BeaverFootball
That clip of JS superimposed with audio is awesome! He is obviously enjoying the newfound riches at qb. Chiles throws a 60 yd bomb and JS deadpans “hey that’s how you throw it across the field” then busts up laughing.
Looking like it may be a delightful era of Beaver football with DJ and Chiles incoming.
I think he says, “Hey, that’s why you throw it across the field.” But I can also hear, “Hey, That’s how you throw it across the field.”
He’s talking to Henson I think so he may be referencing downfield receiving and a new look they haven’t been able to do up to this point. BG boasted that he could make any throw on the field but I’d guess the new guys are making a splash for all involved as difference makers.
Agree. JS is like “holy shit, did this kid just do that!”. He’s absolutely giddy thinking about the possibilities a talent like this brings to the offense.
I’m not sure how reputable she is, but I would think quite reputable since she’s a beat writer for the Utah Utes. Anyways, she posted an article today stating the Pac-12 Media Rights deals are taking “Longer than most expect” because BOTH Amazon and Apple are in negotiations for streaming services and ESPN for linear tv package.
Here’s the link to the article: https://kslsports.com/499432/opinion-making-sense-of-the-latest-pac-12-media-rights-rumors/
This isn’t new, though. Both were separately reported as serious suitors.
At this point, we’re hoping for Apple.
The difference between Apple and Amazon live streaming is huge. Apple doesn’t have the glitches, lags, fuzzy-less-than-SD-clarity, and experimental broadcasters.
Any of you guys ever raise bees? We’re going to try is this season. Any suggestions on how to find and catch a swarm to keep cost down?
Bees!!! Bees in the car!! They’re everywhere! https://youtu.be/mUR14_ry1Zo?t=20
Finding them should be easy, lots of guys put ads in Craigslist for swarms.
Now, catching them??? Seen it done but someone else here will have to help with that.
Give me a buzz…
I had a hive settle into my attic a few year back. Bee keeper came and set box with another hive on my roof next to it. He then plugged the hole for the hive in my attic in the middle of the day when all the bees were out. When they came back the swarmed the side of the house next to the plugged hole. After a couple days the queen died and the bees went into the hive box he set up on the roof. A couple days after the queen died, he unplugged the hole and the bees went in to transfer all the honey from my attic to box hive. Took a couple weeks for all the honey to get transferred. The bee keeper wanted the honey but it was also good to get it out of my walls and attic. Pretty crazy process. Unfortunately, when the bee keeper tried to get the box hive off the roof, it was so heavy he dropped it and it killed all the bees. The bee keeper broke down and cried. He loved bees and felt so guilty.
What a sad ending after all of that effort
It was. Bee keeper estimated about 100k bees died
Damn that sucks.
We’re in the process of trying to find some acreage outside of town and bees are on our list, along with chickens and maybe some goats. Keep us updated on what you find out .
Wow, that’s awful. I’ve heard the supers (where they store the excess honey) can get up to 90lbs!
What time is the game?
5:35 start Friday, streamed on PAC12/OSU livestream.
Meanwhile, here’s a piece on why batters should swing less. Seems to me Forrester follows this to a degree.
Speaking of Forrester, he showed to be a real leader vs San Diego the other day. Eventhough the plate ump was inconsistent (the worst thing for a batter with a great eye) Forrester made a point of picking up teammates who had a hard time at the plate.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/one-dodgers-rookie-stopped-swinging-because-he-had-to-data-says-more-mlb-hitters-should-follow-suit-193818767.html
Swing at ones only over the middle! Got it coach!
More nuanced than that:
“Even in-zone pitches should not all be swung at, because a called strike is not as hurtful as a weakly hit batted ball…
Even on swings in-zone, hitting a productive batted ball is very unlikely,” Haugen told Yahoo Sports.
His analysis showed that swings on those in-zone pitches “resulted in whiffs 17.8% of the time, foul balls 40.1% of the time, field outs 28.3% of the time and base hits just 13.8% of the time.”
My coaches always said look for your pitch and hit it.
My coaches also said if you have 2 strikes against you and the next pitch is borderline? You’d better fucking swing.
Taking a called 3rd strike was verboten. If you’re gonna strike out it better be swinging.
Exactly as stated in the article.
My coach said “is that your older sister?”
My coaches didn’t need to tell me how to bat because I was not fast enough to bunt. So I always had to swing. With that said, every time I was up to bat, everyone backed up including infield. I was a power hitter, but coaches wanted me on their team for Catcher as I was one of, if not the beat Catcher in town. Only problem was, I stopped playing once I got to the Babe Ruth league. My only regret was not getting back into baseball my freshman year of high school when upper classmen who I played ball with due to age, not grade level, kept asking me to join the baseball team. Apparently the Varsity coach kept asking my parents to get me back into baseball, but they never told me until after I graduated high school I was being recruited by the Varsity coach as a freshman who stopped playing after 2 years.
Uncle Rico?
I’m not saying it would have made the team better or worse. I enjoyed playing baseball and I regret quiting the sport. Peers were encouraging me to come back and play, but I ignored them. My regret is I didn’t try to play again.
Why did you quit? Did Fox News tell you that playing baseball leads to democrats getting elected and causing inflation or something? ;)
Long story short, my parents were the ones that duped me into quitting by driving me around town looking for my team practicing well before my team practice time telling me we must have gotten false info. I was in 6th grade at the time and I trusted my parents to get me to practices. They tell me I stopped playing due to it interfering with my homework, but I know I had better grades when I played sports than when I didn’t play sports.
“I know I had better grades when I played sports than when I didn’t play sports.”
Seems to be one of the true things about life, along with playing several sports is better than specializing at a young age.
I’ll break it to you, your parents were sick of taking you to all of the practices and games. Baseball is a lifestyle, and parents have to be on board. Yours obviously weren’t.
Baseball is a big commitment. I know you’re not wrong about my parents not wanting to drive me to practices and what not. Just sucks my brother got to play more sports than me because he was the all around athlete and I was the slow fat kid in the family who loved to play sports.
I don’t want to be the reasons my kids quit on something. If they are going to quit, its going to be on their terms, not mine.
Lineup shows Kane at 3rd, Dernedde at SS. Tanner behind the plate. Guerra DH.
Let’s see how far Sellers goes.
Parker returns with BIG JIM on hand as well.
Go Beavs!
The benefit of having crappy basketball teams is less games with Warren
Sellers 25 pitches through 2 innings, big improvement over his last outing.
Pretty textbook win and how you’d want the Friday night games to go. 6 innings from Sellers followed by Ferrer and Brown to close out. Never in too big of trouble.
Turley with his first taste of a conference play. 3Ks and bad ones too. Dernedde is just not good at the plate. 3 ABs and 3Ks. Also a missed tag to give WSU a double when the throw beat the runner by 3 feet.
Fuchs in his usual form. 2Ks in high leverage at bats. 5 LOB.
Sam gaviglio pitching for team Italy
https://mlbforlife.com/2023/03/03/team-italy-reunites-sam-gaviglio-and-joe-biagini-in-the-2023-world-baseball-classic/
Throwing meatballs over the plate
BLEEDORANGE, a serious, non-political gambling question:
Up above you said:
Also put 100 on the over for wins and got 300
I made the same bet at BetMGM, only paid 1:1 (a stake of 100 gave payoff 200). If I understand your statement, a stake of 100 paid you 400, where did you get those odds? Maybe your payoff was 300, still much better than BetMGM at Spirit Mountain.
It will be interesting to see where the season win total is set this year, 8.5 would be a no brainer.
I saw o/u at 8.5 for Beavs next year.
It paid me 300 so made 200. I had my brother put it in for me so I’m not sure where he found those odds. I think there is a place called betshark.com or something like that. Shows all of the odds of different gambling sites.
https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1634328018369024000?t=F583tYw_WQrhS_zd7gwNTQ&s=19
OSU combine day leaders. The new DE is explosive. Had to look up Joe Swan. Seems like a nice late pick up last year. Had some good offers.
Looking at the NFL combine results, these guys would finish around average for their positions. I add a tenth to the 40 times since they are hand timed at OSU.
lazer idiot
Man card is that much faster than Bolden already? Pretty impressive. If he can develop his receiving tools he could really be a good one.
Bolden is solid
Wonder if Gould ran? I think he’s been out. Smith said in signing day presser that Card reminds him of Gould. The other 2 frosh were ranked higher than Card. I wonder where they would’ve tested. Nice to see Dunmore, Russell and Robinson putting up good numbers.
Gulbranson with a surprising agility performance.
There’s a split screen video up in the twitter feed of Chiles throw and the result on the other end:
https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball
“Launch it.’
It’s been circling the internet for a few days now.
Yeah, good number of views.
OT: Former NFL Coach Bud Grant passed. Didn’t realize what an athlete he was in college and after! Played in the NBA and the NFL…
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/03/11/bud-grant-dies-95-years-old-minnesota-vikings/11453259002/
“Prior to his coaching success, Grant was a standout athlete. He attended the University of Minnesota and was a three-sport star. He played football, basketball and baseball for the Golden Gophers.”
I knew about Grant’s very successful CFL career, but I had no idea he played in the NBA (or that he was 6’3″). He was the oldest living NBA champion.
Yeah… you hear about him and Dave Winfield all the time.
And if you were lucky, you got to hear Kaz try to pronounce Pagliarulo.
BLIND SQUIRREL ALERT:
Dernedde smacks a 2 RBI double with two down and an 0-2 count.
Beavs lead thanks to Kyle…..2-1 t3
Well, we all know I’m no Dernedde fan but he did come up with a nice 2 rbi double in the 2nd. Down 0-2 and dropped it over 3rd base just inside the line. 2-1 Beavs top of 3rd.
Gonna be a long day. Both pitchers not doing well. Walks, hits, etc. 2-2 bottom of 3rd
Kmatz gives up a 2 run HR to Fuchs. 4-2 after 4. Around 70 pitches for Kmatz. Hasn’t been great today. Kinda lucky to only have given up 4 runs.
Kmatz really hasn’t been good in any of his starts so far.
Hey Creek, ya think that mound visit by Mitch scared Kmatz into tossing a K and getting a fly out third out? LOL
Could’ve used more scare tactics yesterday. Kmatz wasn’t good.
Dernedde’s improbable 2 rbi, cancelled by an equally improbable 2 run homer by Fuchs now on WSU, who never swings his bat but somehow hits a homer against his old team.
Apple negotiations have apparently failed. PAC-12 is trying to get something done fast and Apple isn’t. Not many options left now.
Further confirmation the conference is screwed.
That’s how u get the good deals. Eliminate options and become desperate.
P12 is in a terrible negotiating position. I can see why the buyers would want to drag things out.
Apple is notoriously slow at this kind of stuff.
It’s as if they plan for all contingencies beforehand.
It’s so annoying.
Women’s gymnastics beats Utah, gets share of conference championship:
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2023/03/oregon-state-beats-utah-to-share-pac-12-gymnastics-title-before-its-first-ever-sellout-crowd-in-gill-coliseum.html
Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch!
What does the elongated Mitch thingy mean? A meme of sorts?
Very good question…
To me it is an expression of exasperation when anything in baseball doesn’t go as we’d like.
So kinda like “ohhhh no we suck again!”
It’s whenever the team loses angry tries to pin it on Mitch to validate his opinion of him.
Watching conference championships today, I feel blessed to have seen the Beavs’ 2021 run. Yes, Tinkle needs to go. But that team made an amazing run knocking out a future #1 draft pick and it made for the kind of great memory you hope for as a sports fan.
I’m just hopeful I get to see that again in my lifetime.
Ya it was epic and the fact it was so improbable made it all the better. I’ll always remember the game against that number 1 pick. I was at a bar with a handful of friends in maui. Pretty soon we had half the bar rooting for us getting really loud. It was pretty awesome and very fun.
They F’ing lost to Wazzu.
Turley is 1-12 in the last 3 games, with 8 SO and 0 BB. Hopefully he breaks out of the mini slump starting tomorrow. I only watched about 1/3 of the game total today, but there didn’t seem to be any energy and little confidence emanating from the players.
* 1 BB
Energy? Confidence? Not to worry, if you listen to Forrester. He’s quoted as saying, of Magee’s mouthing off, “It just fires us up,… “I mean, to come into our place and act like that … we will use that to our advantage and go into tomorrow and kick some ass.”
Unfortunately it didn’t fire them up during the game it actually happened. The incident he referred to happened in the 5th inning.
Forester needs to stop hitting into double plays with bases loaded.
Dernedde did all he could to carry the team from the 9 hole, everybody else needs to help Dernedde out and not leave it all up to him. Time to rally around your shortstop!
This team is fucked if they have to rally around Dernedde
Hahaha.
1 hit for the beavs into bottom of 8th. WSU has their number.
This is pathetic
At least we have gymnastics
Gymnastics actually sold out Gill this weekend. It will be awhile before we see men’s, or ladies, BB do that.
Quite possibly the best athlete in OSU history too.
Series is lost, 3-1 cougs.
Not gonna win many when ya score only 1 run and only get 1 hit.
Stanford pitching will be a challenge for sure.
Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch!!!!!!!!!!!!
So much for making wazzu pay for their lip yesterday. Pathetic.
Forrester’s quote didn’t have any substance.
That looked like the team I saw opening day.
Horrible way to open Pac12 play.
Yep. My surmise early on was that we were somewhere between game 1 team and the team up to the WSU series. I think we’re better than we played in this series but we’re not a top tier team. 5-7 in the pac is what I predicted and I think that’s still true. Starting pitching isn’t consistent and Kmatz seems to have regressed compared to last season.
Can’t disagree with any of that. When Kmatz was not anointed the Friday night guy I was surprised and not in a good way.
Awww, Oregon WBB didn’t get an at large bid:
“The NET is supposed to matter the most — or at least, matter a lot — and if that’s actually true, Oregon would be in. The Ducks had a NET ranking of 19 (19!) and didn’t get an at-large bid. That’s absurd. Yes, Oregon had a rough stretch in the middle of the season — when one of its best players was hurt, mind you — but the Ducks don’t have a bad loss.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2023/03/12/ncaa-womens-basketball-march-madness-bracket-selections-analysis/11419877002/
Stanford, Utah, USC, WSU, AZ, UCLA, Colorado in…and Portland(!) with a #12 seed against #5 Oklahoma…
Crazy to think that neither OSU/Oregon can make the WBB field, but Portland Pilots did. How many 4*/5* recruits does Portland have on their roster?
Speaking of WBB, Iowa’s Caitlin Clark is a pretty cool NIL “success story” where she’s actually making more playing college ball than she will in the WNBA and seems to be committed to playing out her full eligibility, despite being a superstar.
Whatever we can do to keep our best talents from wintering in Russia, we should ;)
Is any athlete going to winter in Russia again?
No paycheck is worth that risk
A different example of NIL is an LSU gymnast, whose NIL profile is elevated by her looks and sex appeal. Apparently young men at their meets are becoming pretty obnoxious and disrespectful and detracting from the meets.
Sounds like Mitch chewed out the team after loss for 35 minutes:
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2023/03/oregon-state-baseball-suffers-rare-series-loss-to-washington-state-prompting-fiery-35-minute-postgame-chat.html
Sounds about two games too late….
Good. Will it help?
If he is serious, we will have a new SS tomorrow. If we don’t, he’s blowing smoke up their asses!
Backup SS is the new backup QB!
Smoke up their asses, or ours?
I heard the team responded with a group chant of “Miiiiiiitttchhhhhh!!!”
Did Pat Casey ever have to talk for that long a time?
A typical group therapy session is 45 minutes. So Dr. Miiiiiiiiitch PhD in psychology, is a bit under.
Was just reading OSU T&F and Olympic legend Dick Fosbury passed away.
I never met Dick, but he seemed like a really good guy. And he engaged on social media with me and other OSU fans regularly.
RIP
Thought of him just the other day when I saw the kids around here starting up track practice for the year, learning the flop.
Out of respect Mitch does the “Canham Flop” against WSU…Respect.
RIP to a beaver legend!
That sucks. He did seem cool.
Pretty accurate scouting report on Musgrave.
https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2023/3/10/23631041/cowboys-draft-2023-scouting-report-oregon-state-tight-end-luke-musgrave
Stanford returns to Sunken Diamond with no mid-week game on the schedule. After dropping 2 of 3 to USC and falling from #2 to #9 in the D1 Baseball poll. Tree committed 3 errors in both the 2nd and 3rd game in LA.
Beavs drop out after being #25. Need to get past 8-7 Nevada before the test at Stanford.
A very unconfirmed report that Smith is not Riley
https://twitter.com/holdTheRock/status/1635443653081702401
Yuck. He chews?
I dont think a pouch of zyn is anything like a pinch of Copenhagen. From what I understand, it is a incredibly mild way to “chew” if you could call it that. A good way to slowly get off the nasty habit though. Surprised Smith does it but no big deal.
Maybe he’s buying it for Chiles.
LOL
I thought maybe the tag line for the 2023 season could be “Launch it.”
Now its:
“2023: Two tall boys and a log of zyns.”
“Yuck.?” Really Angry?!?
Smith is not Riley?……Thought that was confirmed when he stuck with the run game in the last CW.
A bit Foggy in Corvallis today, especially inside Reser. Reminds me of the 2004 USC Fog game.
https://webcam.oregonstate.edu/reser
Angry: whiney Aaron Rodgers to Jets….winder if he can handle ruthless NY media?
He’s been berated by anyone and everyone for the last 3 years. I don’t think it will be new for him.
Cheesehead worship v. NY media?
Yeah, i think it will be orders of magnitude different…
You must not pay attention to national sports media
The only thing he gets lambasted for is being an idiot about hokum and bunkum.
When it comes to football, he’s good.
Getting lambasted would mean his jount to Oregon for dark therapy would have just continued the narrative. Instead, he’s now just a joke, when it comes to personal health subjects. I half expect colloidal silver to be his next thing.
And even if anyone was still paying attention to his wacky ideas, there’s no way the national media can prepare him for NYC media.
I’m thinking the odds of him sending a dick pic to anyone in that NYC media is less than the last GB QB who was there. So there’s that.
Isn’t he like 100?
The ayahuasca keeps him young
CSU reportedly a third contender for P12 expansion. Yuck.
If that’s true, I suspect CU is leaving to B12. Otherwise CSU makes no sense.
It’s come to the point where the conference has to protect its footprint. The Pac would rather dilute the Denver MSA than just give up half of it to another conference, due to who CSU is.
Anyone left for invitation is a risk for said invitation for any number of reasons. Add in research/academic requirements, and we’re left with only Hawai’i, SDSU, CSU, and UNM, within our footprint–only SMU, Rice, Tulsa, and Tulane within reasonable distance, beyond–with FBS teams.
For football purposes, SDSU, CSU, and Rice have FBS-ready facilities. SMU will have them, once they build out their endzone facility, and Hawai’i will have a new stadium in a couple years. Tulane is in a new stadium, but it still looks incomplete. Still, it’s better off than Tulsa and UNM, who need work, but their stadiums are viable, for now.
Elevating what’s left of quality G5 schools in viable markets in the West is all that’s left for expansion. The Pac value without the LA schools dropped to about the same level as the Big 12 without UT and OU. Taking whoever is left and building them up–and adding some value in non-football sports–is the Pac’s eventual best path forward, if they do expand.
Miiiiiiitch sets Turley, Cedillo, Smith, and Guerra; elects to start Dernedde and sends Bazzana to play LF. Forrester back to 1B.
5-1 Wolfpack going to b3.
Tried to warn you guys about Miiiiiiiiiitch. Can’t have a Tony Robbins-esque wannabe psychologist as your head coach.
We know. You’ve stated your position on MC repeatedly. This team is going to struggle all year based on talent… too many gaps to fill from last year’s team. Can’t wait for you to tell everyone “I told you so” after every loss. I think you’re hitting 1.000 on the year.
Forgot that DeShawn Davis is playing for Mississippi State tonight in the First Four. Jerold Lucas and Warren Washington go tomorrow night for Nevada and ASU. What could have been.
Who says Tinkle can’t recruit?!
I think the prevailing sentiment is that he can’t coach!
Former PG commit Cruz Davis is playing in the tourney for Iona
Miiiiiiiiiiitchhhhh is at it again!!! Is it a rule of OSU athletics that for one team to be successful, almost all other sports have to severely decline?
Well, when they hire a guy who barely has a pulse and came straight out of a Tony Robbins seminar what do you expect? Teams take on the identity of their leader.
Some stats to consider before tonight’s game is final.
Pitching: 4th in Pac in K’s and walks. 2nd in HR allowed and ERA. We’ve given up 5 tonight so that will tick up slightly. Considering we played some really bad teams during our win streak I’m a little surprised about being 4th in those 2 categories.
Fielding: errors were tied for 4th with Zona and Ducks with 15. Fielding percentage we’re in 5th. Definitely not the defensive capability of the teams in the past. Are we seeing a move away from the elite pitching and defense to favoring offense and metrics? This guy can swing a bat super fast who gives a shit if he can field the ball? Maybe it’s just inexperience.
Speaking of hitting: 5th in hits. Tied for 4th in HR. Tied for 5th in rbi. 2nd in walks. 5th in runs. Lots of stake outs. 9th most k’s in the pac. Kinda explains the lack of runs despite having a high walk rate. Can’t move people. Saw that several times tonight. 2 runners on base 1 or less outs and can’t generate anything.
I predicted this team is more likely a 5-7 place team in the Pac and I think that’s still true. Very middle of the pac in most categories despite and easier schedule up front so I think the pac is gonna be a struggle.
Wade Meckler is still in the big league camp. Got the start in LF and played the entire game. Doubtful to make the team but looks like he putting himself on the fast track to the show. Probably starts in AA this year.
Larson with 5 hits and 4 runs in 26 pitches. Apparently that experiment failed.
Starting pitching in general isn’t so great. Kmatz hadn’t looked like the #2 guy this year. Hunter not super consistent. Sellers had control issues…throws 90 pitches in 3 innings. Going to be a long season
Beavs lose 5-1…
Barnes “satisfied with MMB progress, says more wins is next step…”
Barnes also “Bullish on future of Beavers WBB, you can see it coming.”
Satisfied with progress is code for, we can’t afford any other options. If he truly is satisfied with the result then we are in really deep shit. No reason to be satisfied with last place and then an 11th place finish. Not to mention historically bad losses, low scoring, boring ass basketball. Seeing some of the interest by Beavs on the xfer portal names already is pretty depressing. One of the only power 5 teams listed for some of these players.
If Barnes is satisfied with MBB then he is part of the problem. Unless the goal is to purposely downgrade all interest in the program over a short 4 year window. Barnes is either lying, willfully ignorant or unqualified to make such an assessment. Tinkle has successfully fooled enough people through the 2 tourney appearances to morph into the “Mike Riley Head Coach of Basketball Operations”. He is an overpaid, overpraised figurehead, cashing checks and incapable of building the program into anything resembling stable, or successful.
Go get a guy like Bryce Drew, Mike Andersen, or any successful D2/D3 coach with some chops and is hungry for a chance to prove himself.
Tinkle has no hunger or fire for the job at had. All I see is a guy going through the motions to appear to care about building a program but has no real plan for how to do it.
#FireTinkle/FireBarnes
But how about those football Beavers, huh?!? And gymnastics? And wrestling?
*wrastlin’
“Satisfied with progress is code for, we can’t afford any other options.”
Nobody really can, right now. Cash is king, in this environment, and firing a Tinkle, Haase, or Hopkins means giving some of it up. Schools are all probably waiting to see what future distributions will be, before making expensive short-term moves.
Cal let their coach go but he only had 1 year left I think. About $2mill due to him.
When is buying out Tinkles contract feasible?
Full $2.7m base salary for four years, as of now, so, in a couple years.
Geez. What a terrible contract.
Does Nebraska need a MBB coach?
lol… I would trade for Hoiberg, if Nebraska wants to take the chance on Tinkle.
Both schools would get a better fit, IMO.
We’d have to supplement their buyout structure with one year’s base, to offset liabilities. But both coaches and schools would get a fresh start, while saving everyone the headaches of hiring and firing.
Barnes should get on the phone with Nebraska and offer to take Hoiberg off their hands for Tinkle and some cash.
It’s too bad Moos isn’t still there. He might go for it.
When is buying out Canham’s contract feasible?
Buy high, sell low. That’s the Barnes approach.
Miiiiiiiiitch
Poyer re-signs with the Bills. Hopefully for a lot.
ICYM……Take away Larson’s eight batters and Dorman’s crew had a pretty decent night striking out just over half of the batters faced: 5 h, 2 bb, 16 k’s, zero HBP or WP vs 31 batters.
Ya think Stanford’s bats may be a little better than the Wolf Pack?
Beav bats need to wake up………quoting Cap’n Obvious
In football news:
I’m a current student at OSU and have a football player in one of my classes who I have been talking to. Been getting a lot of unique inside info on the team. This may already be what we assumed, but he says that it has already been determined that they are going to redshirt Chiles, and the QB battle for this season is solely between BG and DJU at this point.
Additionally, they stated that in general, the team liked Musgrave, but there was some ill will towards him after not returning to the team when he was healthy. The team was very much kept in the dark by Chance, and almost no one has any idea what he is up to now.
Good info. Your new nickname is “Insider Beaver”.
I’ll be here all week…
Good stuff. That’s what I was hearing about LM. Interesting that they would make a RS decision on Chiles so soon. Makes me think this is driven by Chiles. Probably wants to get ahead in school so he can get into the vet program
RS doesn’t mean he won’t be able to play in some games.
I’d expect to see him early, at least once.
Then he would be held in reserve with his remaining games, until the end of the season, if necessary–hopefully not necessary.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35860875/diamond-owner-rsns-40-plus-teams-files-bankruptcy
Somewhat related to sports media rights fees in the future. Cord cutting hitting regional sports networks hard. PAC12 network is similar as they are bundled in the same cable sports packages that a lot of people don’t want to pay for.
So, do we need to try some small ball to help generate some offense or at least provide a spark and/or different look? I know it’s not MC’s preferred approach but we strike out so much and strand so many runners on base, we gotta create offense somehow. Swipe some bags. Throw down some bunts. Apply some pressure once we draw those walks. Right now, the opposing pitchers aren’t scared of this lineup and rightly so.
Relief pitching was good last night, it was once again the starting pitching that hasn’t been good. Might be the worst trio of starters in my recent memory. We know kmatz can pitch better but he’s regressed from last season…at least so far this year. Hopefully he can regain that form and confidence he had as a freshman.
Still not sure why we continue to play Dernedde. Best infield rotation this year has been Forrester, Kane, Bazanna and Kreig. Big night tonight. Gotta be a blow to morale if you lose the first Pac series to WSU in 14(?) years and the drop 2 games to Nevada at home.
Yes, more small ball is needed.
Not sure small ball is “not MC’s preferred approach” though; I think his approach depends on his opinion of the strengths of the players he has put in the lineup.
Note the stats on steals. Beavs 18 of 22 attempts, opponents 4 of 7. For comparison, Stanford is 13 of 17 and SC is 16 of 23. Does this tell us anything about small ball? I’m not sure.
We also need Turley to break out of his slump.
A stolen base has a win value of .018. A sac bunt has a negative win value of -.010. If that’s what you are relying on to win games, you’re in big trouble.
Analytics?………Miiiiiitch would be so proud of ya, buddy.
Not necessarily saying we need to rely on it, but clearly the free swinging approach has not been working for them against competition not named Coppin State. I’m saying, give it a try. Do something different. Create. Manufacture something. 9th in strike outs and we haven’t even really played anybody good. WSU might be legit, who knows but historically they haven’t been.
Well trying something that statistically decreases your odds, just to try it, sounds like a strategy to lose more games, not win more games. What they need to do is not play small ball but play better baseball.
PAC-12 getting outmaneuvered by the Big 12 with B12 announcing a conference-wide pro day that will be aired on NFL Network. PAC-12 has shown no innovation or creativity.
Hey now, Colorado’s Coach Prime Circus spring game is going to be on ESPN.
This is being outmaneuvered?
Well… how very embarrassing… for the maneuver?
Sorry, what does this have to do with innovation or creativity?
Is it to show that all scouts can be everywhere on one day?
Tinkle seems to be hitting the portal hard in a last ditch effort to save his job
Have you heard any specifics? Fifth-year seniors, who can come to OSU only to get benched like Ryuny?
It’s not so much cord-cutting with regard to Diamond – as paying too much and the rising interest rates making it impossible to refinance and keep up with payments.
From another board I frequent from a guy who knows finance:
“They took yet another business that would be a cash cow in any normal world. … but zero interest rate policy made it ripe for financialization. With each changing of hands, it got loaded up with more debt to make a series of sales possible. Now it is drowning in $8 billion of debt that relied on interest rates remaining at almost zero interest forever so they could keep rolling the debt over. But interest rates are rising and that debt is severely distressed and default is looming.
Unless that changes, Sinclair will be the one left holding the bag.
What is so frustrating about it is that it’s not like this is an unviable business. Once someone eats all of that debt, it will emerge on the other side as a cash cow, with the leagues (if they are the buyers) being the beneficiaries. And that will likely mean that it will end up costing fans.”
The former subsidiary of Sinclair, DSG, owns 19 Bally Sports branded RSNs, which were acquired from The Walt Disney Corporation in a deal that valued the assets at almost $10 billion, more than $122 per subscriber. The channels were part of a larger deal when Disney bought myriad programming assets from News Corporation in 2018 when they were valued at more than twice that—almost $22 billion and more than $250 sub. However, the government required that Disney divest the assets due to antitrust concerns, resulting in a fire sale.
At the time, it was believed by many that Sinclair got the deal of the century, purchasing the popular sports channels at half off.
Hahaha. Get fucked, Sinclair
Another positive about Wayne is that he doesn’t need armed guards to protect his players a la Alabama.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35866264/alabama-brandon-miller-armed-security-guard-due-threats
I will not be rooting for the Tide.
Maybe the guards are to protect the public from the players. Did a bracket where I just picked the team/coach/state I hated more – since I have ZERO insight on the teams. I have Bama over Texas in the final.
I wonder how many mentions the guy charged with murder will get during the Bama run. And please spare me any talk of the team “facing” or “handling” adversity. They caused ALL OF IT.
Another?
Seems to be alot of speculation that the Pac will be announcing their new media deal in the next 2 weeks. Nobody has put a specific date on i
That’s been the speculation for months, all just to get some clicks
Is the football team practicing. I know that they were going to have some closed ones but would’ve thought that the media would still be able to talk to them after.
Last I heard practices were Tue/Thur/Sat till Easter Break.
Looks like just the first one was open to the media. Will have to wait until the spring game to see them in action.
Mitch starts Turley and Krieg. Dernedde too.
“Wrong way” Bolden was released from The Broncos practice squad this week.
I had no idea he was even on an nfl practice squad
Ok, the new tactic of not swinging the bat is working. 4 walks by Nevada to start the 1st inning. Then we do get a ricochet ball of 3rd base glove and beavs lead 3-0 with bases loaded and no outs.
That’s funny, Avery Johnson just pointed out that Jarod Lucas was out of position on defense as he was getting beat backdoor. Some things never change.
And his team is getting blown the fuck out by 30. Before halftime
Lock down or harass Nevada’s backcourt, and the outcome depends on who wins the boards.
But I don’t think anyone expected ASU to play that well on offense.
Helluva time to come together, if this is that. They have the pieces to line up against almost everyone.
Dernedde comes up with a 2 RBI double, we’ve seen that before……not often.
8-0 Beavs b3
Flag of Mexico on Nevada pitchers glove?
Chad Johnson, ambassador. I didn’t realize how many pro bowls he made (6) and All Pro (3):
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/03/09/chad-johnson-joining-famu-program-ambassador-consultant/11434356002/
I love that he’s an ambassador for a different university than the one he played for.
Sounds like they’re his local school growing up. I can see having an attachment to that.
He was a legit WR, his mic’d up YouTube videos are hilarious.
Good to see Grewe throw some innings tonight. Did well! Think this was his first appearance but I could be mistaken.
I think I keep hearing Parker mention “Sweetchick”? One of the Nevada players.
But my brain keeps processing (and this is so dumb)…..
https://policeacademy.fandom.com/wiki/Carl_Sweetchuck
How does anyone vote down Sweetchuck?!
Nine hits tonight, but none for Turley or Krieg.
Can’t complain about pitching, 16 k’s, 4 bb, no HBP or WP. 4 arms pitched no hit ball for combined 6.1 innings.
Statistics say that over 40% of players who enter the FBS transfer portal never get picked up by another school. At this point its looking like Chance may be a part of that percentage….
I didnt realize Malcom Agnew is the Stanford RB coach this season
Miiiiiiiitchhhhhhh
12-1 Beavers.
Split w/the Pack!
“The bullpen, which entered the game with a 2.23 ERA and 78 strikeouts — with just 56 hits — in 68 2/3 innings, improved to 8-0 this season.” – From O-Live. Some impressive numbers.
Down goes Arizona. To Princeton.
Pac-12 basketball is a joke. Fuck you Stinkle
Arizona choking at the Dance? What a surprise
The only game I watched yesterday before the evening games was Furman and UVA. I got all invested in the game when Furman came out in the second half and started running a 1-3-1 and chipping away at a small lead for a UVA team that likes D scores a little too much.
And in the end, UVA just outdisciplined them in the last couple possessions to take the lead and set themselves up for FTs to put the lead away. All the fun was over… or was it?
There were enough missed FTs on either side, the last ones shouldn’t be the only ones recorded.
DJ meets with the media, shakes hands with each media member before the interview. Seems like a class move.
Y’all learn anything here?
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/Article/Oregon-State-Beavers-football-2023-DJ-Uiagalelei-first-media-availability-watch-video-206680249/
He’s definitely a good addition all around.
I felt Damien’s interview was more revealing than DJ’s interview. DJ was very respectful and didn’t seem bothered with repeating his answers to similar questions over and over. He made a point to speak well of his past players and coaches as well. He is a low ego high output player and fits the culture.
Damien’s interview he reveals the new RB coach isn’t changing much of what they’re doing, but he is wanting the running back room to be more agility based than power based. He also spoke of DJ and once DJ is up to speed on the playbook and what the coaches want to do with the offense, “he will Dominate” is Damien’s exact phrasing.
Link to Damien’s interview:
https://youtu.be/tOGPJE_iwyE
I didnt watch the whole thing yet, but kindof shocking that he reached out to our coaches first and didnt hear back for 2 WEEKS!!!??
I get there was bowl prep going on, but we also know they were talking to at least 2 other QBs during that same period (Slovis and Card)
Hard to understand how you slow play a guy of DJU’s calibur when you know QB is the top priority of the offseason.
Also, the media keeps saying he’s never been to Corvallis before, but he did come on an unofficial visit back in the day when he was a HS recruit.
Also, fun little side note. OSU offered DJ originally when he was an 8th grader, back in 2016.
Back in the GA days.
Maybe they didn’t think they had a shot at him or just flat out missed the message.
Seems more surprising that other schools had the two week advantage over the Beavs and didn’t land him.
But in his answers, he seemed like he really wanted to go into a pro style offense.
The only thing I can think of is that they wanted to do some background checks and thought maybe he had some character questions.
It’s possible he just wasn’t as high on Lindgren’s list. Card and Slovis fit the accurate game mold that he likes. DJ is the opposite.
I too can’t believe they didn’t get back to DJ right away after he messaged them he was interested. The kid seems like a class act AND WANTS TO PLAY FOR US… holy crap since when does this happen at OSU. Good get but now I’m concerned about the Beavs recruiting communications.
What did I’all learn?
He appears very patient, mature, and thoughtful. First interview with him I’ve seen.
Its not many young males in this sport and in this age of social media that would tolerate a two-week (two whole weeks!) before a school-of-interest responded. I’m sure he knew if it didn’t work out he’d have other opportunities.
DJ clearly researched OSU, liked the offense and players on both sides of the ball, and to be honest. probably knew the roster was conducive to playing time. He was classy in discussing his former team.
He was also classy NOT to mention other schools that may have contacted him. No point in identifying who he kept in line while he waited to hear from OSU.
I’ve only seen his highlight film, but his throwing ability is obviously very impressive, as is his ability to run. I think he won’t be asked to run at OSU nearly as much as he was at Clemson, and that’s a good thing. Playing under center will be better for his NFL aspirations too, he knows that.
This is going to be a helluva season. The D loses experience, but Bray has indicated they’ve been recruiting bettertalent, and they just need to get up to speed. Plus, the offense should score more points and not put the D in poor positions. Utah and UW @ Reser should be raucous, great entertainment, with some of the best PAC QB talent. Reser will be loud. @ UO will be a blast too and I won’t be surprised if OSU wins again.
“I think he won’t be asked to run at OSU nearly as much as he was at Clemson….”
I imagine he’s going to be a lot like a Rothlisberger, but with a little more mobility, to reset the pocket or threaten the run.
Anyone see your seat yet?
https://webcam.oregonstate.edu/reser
Beavs had a JUCO CB on an official visit this week.
2 transfer or JC CBs in the last week, so seems to be only a matter of time till we see 1 or more guy added to the DB room.
I havent watched his film but like his size/height at 6’3″ 190lbs
https://twitter.com/drake_vickers/status/1636549085259001857?t=6g_k0n53MFcEPAxZyQTmDA&s=19
Loooong arms, NFL size, seems like he has good change of direction and recovery. With Blue (“You’re my boy Blue! you’re my boy!”) coaching him, I think he could develop into a top conference CB. But others here are much better at film evaluation than me.
I hope he commits and gets on campus.
Any feedback from the CB from MSTU? He would be a great pickup for this team and I would think it would be an attractive spot for him. Last year’s starting CBs Both went pro so there’s that too.
I havent seen feedback but also havent seeked it out
Yuck to a 7pm start time tonight. People have things to do. I wish YouTube would buy the media rights to NCAA baseball. All games should be streaming live on there.
Poyer re-signs with Bills in a two year deal. At 32, he apparently felt his age limited interest from other teams. May be his last contract?
Regarding the small ball discussion above. I agree with the notion that in the long run playing small ball is a losing game. Sac burns are just giving up outs. I agree with the analytics that over the long run you are hurting your run production. But I think the reality is a bit more nuanced than that and this is something I think Pat Casey understood. Particularly when facing an ace I think some small ball can be in order.
For one it forces the pitcher and defense into higher leverage situations, they got to shift the infield, do pitch outs, throw over to first to hold the runner on. You place additional stress on a starter and maybe you chase them in the 7th instead of the 8th, which could be huge in that you’d face a middle reliever instead of going straight to the closer.
Secondly you typical go small ball against a really good pitcher. A lot of times your offense isn’t really getting much going. Really good pitchers have nasty stuff and force a lot of double play balls, you take that potential off the table.
So this is all to say I’m not a huge fan of the small ball but I think having the ability to execute it is a good tool for a manager to have in their pocket. And you got to practice it from time to time in order to do it right.
Context does matter a bit. Tango has good charts showing run expectancy by base states, so that is part of the decision, as is the type and quality of pitcher. But a higher quality pitcher is generally harder to bunt against, so it might result in disaster. In general, sacrifice bunts are less successful than people think. I think it’s around 50% for a “good” bunter, from memory. Maybe a bit higher, but it’s not a guarantee, which makes it an even worse decision most of the time. In general, if you are relying on this method to win games you are going to lose games. Casey used it, and too much, but he recruited to it with players who could execute at a high success rate in key moments, so that made it look like a good decision when it wasn’t.
You hit the nail on the head when ya said, “he recruited to it..”. Not only that but he taught/practiced it to build that skill.
His record sure does make it look like a good decision.
Yes, also practiced it. I’m not sure what Mitch is doing in that regard. Probably some type of psychology instead of practice.
I like small ball because it requires the corner fielders (and pitcher) to charge the ball and make a good throw from a non-ideal position. Obviously at the MLB level where everyone throws lasers it won’t work.
This team is not fitted to play small ball consistently. Too many baserunning errors, not enough speed, and not great with bunt placement.
New thread for Stanford series going up in 1/2 hour.
Angry……change it if ya want………
Fun fact: Arizona is the only school to ever lose to two 15 seeds in the tournament.