Here is the link.
They list his record as 13-39, but that was before the USC and Utah games. 13-41 comes to a winning percentage of 24.
To be fair, there are some good coaches on that list with losing records. Bob Stoops stands out to me as having the most success versus good opponents. His record is impressive.
I have brought this up in the past, but why such a complex offense for Oregon State QBs? Oregon State’s job is not to breed backup NFL Qbs. Yet that is exactly what they’re doing. Riley would be better off recruiting a great college QB rather than a mediocre backup NFL QB, and he would also be better off “dumbing down” the system so these QBs can have success their first year. I realize OSU is putting QBs into the NFL and that is something that a select group of fans are proud of, but that doesn’t win games on Saturdays, and those players have ultimately held clipboards on Sundays. So who exactly benefits from this system, and if the answer is no one, then why continue doing it?
If we look at the recent numbers, first year QBs under Riley do not fair well.
2005 Matt Moore: 2711 yards, 11 TD, 19 INT (Beavs Record: 5-6)
2007 Canfield/Moevao: 2537 yards, 11 TD, 21 INT (Beavs Record: 9-4)
2010 Ryan Katz: 2401 yards, 18 TD, 11 INT (Beavs Record 5-7)
2011 Sean Mannion: 3328, 16 TD, 18 INT (Beavs Record 3-9)
Average: 2744 yards, 14 TD, 17 INT
It’s not clear who the successor will be, but we know this: he hasn’t played meaningful time in any games, and likely will not the rest of the way given the competition only gets better.
As average as Mannion has been, he’s still better than next year’s rookie QB. We will see a big drop off next year at that position. Now considering all the other seniors leaving, it’s hard to have optimism. The year after looks pretty bleak, too. How does Riley survive these? And further, does he even want to? He looks shot. I could see him realizing the cupboard is bare and retiring after this season. Last night was a prototypical “cool the hot seat game”, which Riley usually does well in, and that usually brings the Pollys out of hibernation, but he wasn’t able to win it this time. Not the Pollys are even chirping a little.
Riley problem is an issue of desire/competition and genuinely not knowing how to make things better. He is a man out of ideas. OSU should offer him a different position for the same salary, then find a new coach. This would allow Riley to save face, collect his check, and everyone else to move forward. A few years ago I might have said demote Riley to OC, but after the past few years I don’t think he could even do that. Maybe give him Locey’s job and move Locey back on the field. Something like that has to happen, because if OSU wins a game or 2 next year things are going to blowup. This is next year’s schedule. How many wins do you see?
I have two tickets to the Stanford game.
Does anyone want to buy them off me?
Early game thread, for those who want to discuss football.
I have written extensively about the college/education bubble. Tuition has risen more than quality of education (which if anything, has decreased), etc.
When a potential employer looks at your resume and sees Oregon State (or Oregon, Washington State, etc), is this nothing more than a quick selection tool? If so, not going to college might be better than subpar college.
a. No debt upon graduation
b. No negative stigma associated with a tier 3 college
c. Enter workforce earlier and gain real skills
d. Become a self-educated man and spend more time mastering subjects you plan to excel in (very important in a division of labor/specialist economy).
e. All the information is free online.
These are all nice benefits. The one benefit in going to college is that it’s replaced high school diploma as the benchmark. An employer would select you over a high school education. That’s about it. If employers would take the time to actually explore each applicant, it would greatly reduce that problem. So if you’re in a position to hire people, maybe you should do that.
And no I am not bitter and do not need a job, though I am always open to discussions. This is mostly due to anger over the high cost for a bad product. Which we find in healthcare, too. I also make this post because I do feel people associate an OSU diploma with dunces. It’s a quick selection tool. I know someone will bring up the engineering school being ranked. None of that really matters, though. All that matters is what people outside of the Corvallis area think of when they hear OSU, and it is rarely (never) positive/prestigious. At best reactions are neutral or lukewarm.