19.Nov.2014 More on Rape and Riley

So for the longest time I have hated feminists (specifically for the logical inconsistencies and anti-male attitudes). But I do think they have one thing right, this idea of “rape culture” (though I think it is a derivative of “mob mentality”)…

The Brenda Tracy story, the Steubenville case, Mike Riley, Joe Pa, now this in Rolling Stone (“You’re still upset about that?” Andy asked one Friday night when Jackie was crying…sounds much like Mike Riley’s comment), and the hundreds of other cases that occur daily that we never hear about. Doesn’t seem to matter if the victims or male or female, really. The culture of rape is the same: the victim is to blame, victim is a liar, victim is a slut, society doesn’t understand the mental trauma because it didn’t happen to them, we don’t want to ruin the lives of guys with potential over some silly girl, or some variant of these.

Take this genius post from EugeneBeaver in the last rape thread (because apparently we need two rape threads here to get the point across that you should never rape someone?):

You’re trying to compare something that happened in 1998 and a coaching trying to build a program. To a guy in 2007 ( I think when Coye got removed) who has his program established. Furthermore things are vastly different in 1998 vs 2007 and now.

You’re reaching and you know it!

How you think and act now is different then what you would have done 16 years ago and its different from how you will act/think in 16 years later.

Do you honestly think for one second if the same thing happened today (prior to this article) that Riley would not have done something more then a 1 game suspension?

And my response:

So the rules are that if you’re building a program, gang rape is okay. If the program is established, gang rape isn’t okay. Good one, dude! Keep that hamster wheel turning.

Seriously, what kind of idiot (sub 20 IQ) argument is that?

This “Yes means Yes” law here in California is atrocious. If it passes, it will penalizes all college attending citizens, even the innocent, because of a few subhuman retards. It is especially damning to males as they are guilty from the start and have to prove innocence. This is never acceptable. But it begins to look acceptable due to the attitude toward rape. That is, one can suddenly make this [unconstitutional] argument look reasonable: if people can’t stop rationalizing rape, then the State is left with little choice but to stop the sex. Both are equally disgusting. People need to grow the fuck up, and the adults (e.g. coaches at Steubenville, Mike Riley, Joe Pa) who either encourage the behavior or turn a blind eye should not be acquitted. Mike Riley is a guilty man. Good luck both defending that statement and appearing rational/sane.

18.Nov.2014 Oregonian Article Made Me Laugh

First off, is this newsworthy for a 5-5 team? I guess it’s fine to briefly mention it like they did, but they take it a step further [into the ridiculous] with this:

The Beavers have the best home winning percentage against top-10 teams since 2000 (5-5) of any unranked FBS team, according to ESPN Stats & Info.

Just seems like a huge reach to find something positive. (a) narrowing it down to home winning percentage is odd (b) they then narrow it down to top 10 teams, and as we know Riley is 14-42 vs top 25 teams (c) the word “unranked” should be negative, but the stat spins this as a positive.

It is a very odd stat and a good example how statistics can be misleading. For example, you have to wonder maybe the Beavs have just been unranked more often than the teams below them. Of course we don’t get that half of the equation. I know most will say “Angry, this is good for our National perception so why are you complaining?” I’m not. Just pointing out the BS/weirdness of it. If I am angry about anything it’s the mild insinuation in this article that everything’s now okay with Oregon State football. Ted Miller loves Riley and gets annoyed annually with fans who want to see a change.

Corban @ Oregon State

“Kudos to them. A little ember is going to spark a wildfire in our place.” -Wayne Tinkle, on the fans’ support.

7pm tip.

This is the only writeup I’ve seen on the game.

Go Beavs.

17.Nov.2014 Mike Riley on Brenda Tracy Story

I just read the story a bit ago and just wow…

That’s one of Canzano’s better pieces.

What stood out to me most was Riley. The quotes…

“It’s so sad to me that it still haunts her. It’s scary what that means to a lady,” Riley said. “Maybe retribution would have helped that. I don’t know. I just reminded our team here recently about those things that will change their life and others in a blink of an eye.”

“It’s scary what that means to a lady”? Then he goes on to make it about himself and the team.

Mike Riley, the football coach who Brenda Tracy resented so much all those years, is contemplating the unthinkable. He wonders if Tracy, nurse and survivor, might stand in front of his football team someday and share the gravity of her terrible experience.

“What do you think?” he asked me.

I told the coach she’d be powerful.

“I always try to research the right people to talk to our team and do it throughout the year,” Riley said. “That would be a compelling talk. A real-life talk. Instead of just talking about rape and sexual assault, actually having someone talk about how things can change for everyone in a moment like that.

I guess he’s trying to teach these players they shouldn’t rape people? Duh. Do people really need to be taught that? Maybe the lesson he’s trying to teach is your life can change quickly. That’s not as intuitive, so maybe there’s more merit there. But it just comes off really odd to me; like he is making it about himself and his players. Feels very “old boy network” to have a gang rape victim standup and talk to a football team when the coach who gave her rapists a 1 game suspension is standing there with [once again] his players’ well-being, rather than hers, in mind. It’s disgusting. I think completely differently about Riley after reading that article. I used to think he was a nice guy…

What Does a Win Versus Arizona State Mean?

Not much, and the reason is simple: OSU was not playing for anything. To win a “big game” or pull of a “major upset” when there is nothing on the line rightfully means very little. For example, beating then #18 USC to move to 4-0 would have been a greater accomplishment than beating #6 ASU to move to 5-5. Beating #20 Utah to move to 5-1 would have been more important.

All this win did was stop the free fall. It stabilized the situation for recruits. It gave Bob D and the Riley-friendly media some ammo to shoot at dissenters. That’s about it. The reality is still the same: we have an average to slightly below average head coach who is a nice guy and who might pull off a respectable season every so often.

The only way this season can be considered even a minor success is if OSU beats Oregon and breaks the CW streak. That’s been the reality since the Utah loss, at which point the season was over.

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