Baseball is down to #5, the WBB team is falling apart, Spring Football is about to start up again.
Are you done caring? Has the almighty dollar ruined it for ya?
Let’s consider the reasons folks take an interest in Beaver athletics and college sports in general; is it because:
1-it’s YOUR school, darn it!
2-you like watching payers develop both as people and as athletes
3-coaches are fun to second guess
4-some tax money is involved
5-you like the uniforms
6-it’s a social thing; tailgating, drinking, trash talking opponents
7-you’re tired of the drama and $ which IS pro sports
8-sports betting has more appeal than the lottery
9-?
Are those things gone for you?…….talk it over, or go general, after all the last thread is nearly up to 1,000.
Still………..GO BEAVS! ***********I think?
Am I first?
No, but you can speak.
You will always be second to Phil Knight!
Can we just call him sir phil?
I’m worried about WBB now that Talia has gone portal. Who will be next? And after that? This is a team that was going to be pre-season top 10 if not top 5 next year had they stayed together. If more leave, I’d sure like them to outline some reasons why instead of the usual BS that is written. The team seemed to be on the same page all season long and I did not detect any internal squabbling nor did I hear of any. If Beers and/or Gardiner head out, that would be a huge blow to the team. I was thinking that maybe Adlee Blacklock might ditch as her playing time this year was a lot less than last year. I can’t imagine there is some huge payday out there through NIL. Any thoughts?
100% payday.
No competitive reason to go. It’s all NIL.
As long as SR stays, lady’s will be fine.
#1 is the only thing that keeps me engaged but I can see that fading with the portal. If the players are mercenaries instead of fellow future alums, it will end my interest.
Feels like that’s coming quickly.
1, but for me Beavs football has always been my favorite sport to watch, as I was successfully brainwashed since birth.
I wonder if some of the high level players that are leaving do so because they think that in playing at OSU, they’re not going to get a fair shake when it comes to pre-season and in season rankings, tournament or playoff seedings, or even to the scale of referee calls, so that no matter hard they work or how much they earn it, a fair opportunity to compete for championships won’t be there for them at the end of the season? Certainly many in here think and feel that. We constantly harp on false narratives, and the influence of networks and markets reducing fair competition.
To One Old Beav’s post and question, I called into question the “watchability” of even college sports years ago. Its taken a bit longer to get here than I thought it would, but it is becoming increasingly challenging to invest time in it. I don’t watch pro sports but for the odd nfl game. NBA sucks. And College sports are essentially becoming pro but with broader free agency.
What Bray is doing is compelling and its a longshot. Out of curiosity I’ll track football next season. If Rueck can keep the roster intact and make another run, I’ll track the WBB too.
If Murthy and Barnes don’t get effective help from WSU in developing and implementing a longer game strategy, seems like it will get worse quickly. Unfortuantely, it seems like the most effective play would be if they could get the NVIDEA CEO to kick down some money so they can play the same or better NIL game as the other programs, hold on, and be part of the next realignment. But he appears to have no interest in that.
As Jack said, when the Pac began to fray, the world didn’t end, including for OSU sports. Going into the UW game, OSU Beavers football was #10-11 depending on the polls, and they held Penix and the Dawgs scoreless in the second half, first time that happened to them in the last two seasons I believe…going into the CW they were still about #16, down two starting OLinemen, and Smith halfway out the door. Men’s Baseball is top 5. Women’s Basketball likely top 8 when the season is all over. OSU was/is relevant at the end of the PAC in major sports.
Why care? Because I went to school there and watching even a losing football program with friends was fun. Watching Miller basketball was fun. Bray and his staff seem to care. Rueck seems to care, we’ll see if he gets poached or goes elsewhere where he can compete. Murthy I think cares.
I’m in my early 40’s and have been attending OSU events since I was a young child. Attended and graduated from OSU. My best friends are my college buddies. There’s 15 of us on a group text chat. We meet up every summer for a Man’s Weekend. Those life experiences because of OSU supercedes any players that come and go. My interest in college football is still very high, it’s my favorite sport, but I have definitely been paying less attention to most other college sports outside of baseball. I filled out 1 march madness bracket…I used to have at least 4 filled out until a few years ago. I even used to take vacation from work for the opening rounds of it. Maybe that’s just me getting older or perhaps it’s the changing landscape, maybe it’s a combo of the two. Change will need to come sooner than later because this current format isn’t sustainable. At some point people will start to tune it out more and more as their schools become the next WSU/OSU. I’m wondering if we’re approaching a point of no return with Men’s basketball…being stuck with WT for 2 more years and the reality of our starting lineup next year being essentially walk-ons and Rataj. Don’t expect any portal help with WT at the helm. I can’t think of 1 portal player over the last few years that was a major contributor. Maybe Akano was? Can we survive and rise from the ashes with what very well likely could be the worst 5 year stretch of men’s basketball (these last 3 years and the next 2) and everything that we’re facing from realignment, etc. Could our men’s basketball future rival the 28 year football streak?
I attended Boise St but relocated to Oregon as a newlywed in my early 20s. I saw Tim Alexander play, attended the 1998 Civil War, saw Dino Tanner beat Arizona in person, rejoiced the day Riley left for Nebraska, raised our kids going to Beaver/PAC10 sports over the last 25 years and now it is all fading quickly. I have to admit that Angry was correct in forecasting the demise of college sports about 10 years ago. My interest hasn’t diminished, but I find myself in a Don Quixote frame of mind all the time. I am challenging the “powers that be” of college sports without being able to actually gain a victory. It is somewhat mystifying to watch such a rapid dismantling of OSU athletic programs with no real hope in sight.
My guess is the only real victory will be a mass dismantling of the whole entire system to the point that 60-70 schools will also find themselves in exactly the same spot OSU is in and then, out of necessity, create a new and better system of college sports for those that remain. I expect many schools will simply shut down athletic programs or at least a segment of their sports.
It is a sad day to realize that what was will likely never be again and not too many poeple who could change it really care about the fallout.
I will be invested as a longtime fan for OSU football, grouse at the “system” and pine for the days gone by, I will still come to this site as long as angry keeps it going to check in on other Beav opinions, I will still root for a stand up guy like Rueck, Bray as coaches and great representatives of what should be rather than the greed and cut-throat nature of what is coming.
I hope Mitch and his crew can win another National Championship this year as a final jab at the “system”.
OSU programs that have been excellent over the years:
Mens soccer this year
WBB final 4 and 2 elite 8s, in 10 years
Wrestling
Gymnastics
Football trending up
Baseball 3 national titles
ESPN has killed this program by proxy and should pay for it dearly in lawsuits…college sports cannot be soley based on viewership of an east coast bias station interested in its own sports properties and contractual obligations due to certain conferences. The moment ESPN entered into exclusive rights contracts with any conference, the end was inevitable.
Thanks for the topic oob, I appreciate this sight for these types of discussions beyond the actual sport.
Sad to be here but still here, Go Beavs!
I hope people are wishing TVO thanks and best wishes. She deserves it and to suggest she didn’t do enough for OSU and the Beavs isn’t fair.
Agreed.
She should be proud of her accomplishments.
Wishing her well, wish Bolden well also, but the rest of them seem like they are just jumping ship and chasing cash.
I agree with Obj Critic: I wonder if some of the high level players that are leaving do so because they think that in playing at OSU, they’re not going to get a fair shake when it comes to pre-season and in season rankings, tournament or playoff seedings, or even to the scale of referee calls, so that no matter hard they work or how much they earn it, a fair opportunity to compete for championships won’t be there for them at the end of the season? Certainly many in here think and feel that.
I am 100% agreement with this sentiment, and if the athletes are honest enough to state it openly when they leave, I would wish them well and totally accept their decision. But if they think it yet aren’t willing to state it, don’t give me the fake reasons. If Barnes thinks the same thing about OSU not getting a fair shake, he needs to be a bullhorn on behalf of the athletes/coaches of OSU and demand fairness publicly and call out refs, conferences, media etc. OSU is in a delicate rock/hard place dilemma: declare the unfairness and be portrayed as the whining complaining sour grapes school, or be silent and take it while leaving athletes with no choice but to decide to move on because no one in admin has their back.
When Beers gets knocked over from behind and she gets called for the foul. That call was so egregious that I can’t believe no one form OSU has made a public statement and called out the ref/NCAA for it. And for Beers, she may need to go to South Carolina so she can succeed, because as long as she plays at OSU and is so much better than the competition, she will get bogus calls, since “OSU isn’t supposed to have those kinds of players.”
I can think of multiple great players in recent OSU sports that have been in the same spot Beers is now in:
FLagrant elbow that broke Beers nose, not called and changed the season
Rutchman in 2017 CWS,
Poyer vs Stanford had a game changing tackle for a fumble/touchdown but was called targeting for a great tackle;
Heimlich being crucified all season in 2017
Talise Fuaga getting bogus holding calls for 2 years
Quiz thrown into the concrete out of bounds, no call
Wheaton getting knocked out in Seattle, no call for targeting
James Rodgers tackled late at UA, torn ligaments, no call
Suspicious calls, spot of ball favoring UW in multiple football games over the years, Riley and Smith era
Each of these players are the best of their team and OSU gets a raw deal each time. I know it’s not exhaustive but surely representative of some of the greats at key moments in our collective OSU journey getting the opposite of “star treatment”, which would make transferring to a place where a star athlete may have at least a chance at the “star treatment” tempting in addition to a payday NIL.
At that point, I begin to question the legitimacy of most sports right now. Isn’t it pretty naive to think that sports gambling hasn’t infected everything including refs?
1919 a world series was thrown by the Chicago Black Sox,
1961 widespread mbb point shaving scandal involved 22 universities,
1980s Pete Rose
1990s NBA refs
2000-2024 no major scandals in any sports? Conveniently coincides with major media deals with conferences for tv rights to games. Now I realize that the gambling and scandals are no longer linked with the mob or bookies, but with networks and coordination between conference heads, ad execs, and refs internally. It is a lot easier to control, appear to be organic competition, always with a cover story for subjective calls, always with an angle for how recruiting and great players get calls or you can’t get that call at that moment in the game. The “mob” has shifted from outside of the sport into the chairman’s seat and it is a controlled and fixed outcome for the most money possible and has been for about 20 years. So here we are, watching a house of cards built on backroom deals and controlled outcomes leading to a semi=pro college landscape that will inevitably end with less opportunity for athletes and fewer schools relying on sports for their student life appeal.
The golden goose has been cooked and it is in the process of rotting from the inside out, but the powers behind all of this don’t smell the rot yet. It is only a matter of time I think.
We tend to think the way things “are” at the present moment is the way things will always be. College athletics is heading for a reckoning. ESPN itself is heading for a reckoning as we’ve seen the cable tv model causing massive red ink to flow in Bristol. Regional sports cable nets are going bankrupt. Oregon State athletics have been out-punching their weight class for over 100 years – I don’t expect that to change any time soon.
And if we’re being really honest with ourselves – most of the athletes that come to Corvallis would have gone elsewhere if they had an offer from certain other schools. The fact that Jade Carey could have gone anywhere – but came here, says something. OSU is a special place. But I also understand athletes trying to cash in on their athletic abilities while they still have value.
We’ll give you a lunchbucket and a hard hat.
But it’s on you to like chewing on trees and terraforming.
On a more cheerful note, Bazzana currently leads the nation in OBP @ .606.
I had a baseball coach that once said baseball is a hard sport because you fail more often than you succeed. Bazzana must not have had the same coach.
OL Christian-Lichtenhan (Colo) and LB Gyriece Goodman (Juco) are in Corvallis and enrolled for Spring.
Are they in the portal yet?
LOL
That 6’7″ TE ever show up?
How about Aiden Sullivan?
USC hires Musselman away from Arkansas. I’m going to take this opportunity to remind everyone that we hired Tinkle instead of Mussleman.
Ouch
Musselmann was the obvious choice.
He really wanted the job.
Dinking around with Howland should have been a red flag on what decisions were being made.
His West Coast recruiting was stellar. He’s the reason Nevada’s getting a nice new arena.
He would have left here also with the current state things are in. Still we might have been maybe relevant with that hire.
Yeah we would have been good when he left, though. We’re guaranteed to be a major rebuild whenever WTF leaves now.
I can only wonder if the house in Coeur d’ lane has gone over budget. Their kids are on their own. Why, why and what is the point of his continuing, especially now. And why does Lisa Tinkle put herself through sitting in the stands, watching him perform, and enduring loss after loss? Stand by your man? She’s a strong woman and I assume could put a stop to this nonsense. If nothing else, his refusal to resign or at least consider a pro-rated, reduced payout, makes one wonder about mental issues.
Oh stop.
It’s three million a year.
What more is there to understand?
Beavers football ST “loaded with talent and depth,” Hayes has “leg talent:”
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/04/oregon-state-special-teams-loaded-with-athletes-and-depth.html
He always has. He can crush it, but will it go straight?
It would be funny if Hayes straightened out, because I’m not seeing lame commercials with Sappington on my TV.
But I’ve seen Gage Hurych.
Are you talking about my golf game?
Beamerball… Beaverball?
I should note that in addition to being a Beaver alum, I grew up in the Bay Area, rooted for Cal (gone to the ACC), the Raiders (gone to LA, now in Vegas), the Warriors (headed across the Bay) and the A’s (Sacto for sure, potentially Vegas) . So yeah, been a rough few years for me.
I do still harbor some hope that “the snap” will be undone and the Pac-12 will get back together in some form. The present state of college athletics is unsustainable. It reminds me of the joke of the two hikers who are confronted by a bear and one switches into running shoes because he only needs to outrun his partner to survive.
Yeah, its really nothing new….follow the $$$…
I managed to enjoy some Beavers football in the last year of the PAC…the CW pissed me off with Smith having informed the team he was leaving and being halfway out the door. So much for “locking in.”
#9 – it’ll be pure college sports program in the future. Athletes who play for the love of the game since OSU won’t be able to afford to pay athletes and donors won’t keep shelling out money to support programs with no chance at national titles.
Miiiitch!
On a side note, a few comments went to spam. I approved them, so hopefully those users won’t get flagged in the future (note: it was not NUC).
I’m actually mildly curious to see if football can dominate a weak league. It will be awful football, but I’ll probably watch, at least season 1.
It won’t even be a league since the games don’t count in the MWC standings. It’s down to winning all the games to try to get a CFP berth or go to some minor bowl game.
8 transfers… Barnes had expressed that he was excited about the core coming back. Well… Now what? I get the college landscape is drastically changing and money is an issue, but Tinkle has a proven track record of being unable to keep key players. Another year of Tinkle will just continue to damage a program that has an opportunity to become a top team in what’s essentially already a 2-bid league. With additions of OSU and WSU it has the potential to become a 3-bid league and is a big opportunity to improve our brand in the college basketball world. I know money drives decisions, but we need something to drive excitement for our men’s basketball program. I say take the hit, show him the door and find a young hungry coach to inject some excitement into the program. A good coach can turn around a program quickly.
Gonzaga is Gonzaga. St Mary’s has two top 100 recruits coming in. WSU is coming off a tourney appearance. It’s going to be an uphill climb for MBB to be a contender.
With our two teams hypothetically in the WCC this past year, we would have ended up somewhere from 7 to 10 out of 11 teams.
Based on what? No one really challenged Zaga and SMC. OSU was actually very successful against smaller conference teams.
We would have been solidly middle of the pack. But now everyone is gone.
our strength of schedule and a bunch of OT wins isn’t exactly what I would call very successful.
a basket here or there and it could have been a 9 or 10-win season with some loses to mid-majors. It wasn’t a ton of improvement except for Pope’s growth.
Played lacrosse for the Beavs. Partied my heart out in Sackett and later 12th st by the orange beer store. Summer classes jumping off high rock and bbq’n. Too many good memories to just not care.
Bray mic’ed up. I really like the enthusiasm. It’s so much better then zero personality Smith and chasing butterflies Riley
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1643885446442999?mibextid=31ks6x&s=yWDuG2&fs=e
Bazzana is amazing!!! 6th lead off homer
Women’s hoops has to finish top 10 for sure, top 5?? with the drubbing NC State is getting?
Beavs falling apart again. Were up 5-0. Now it’s 7-6 top of sixth. In the bottom of the 5th, 7, 8, and 9 hitters walked and the “murders row” could not get anyone in.
It’s all the fault of Miiiiiiiitch!
Is there a stream of the game???
I miss the days when Beaver pictures walked batters… Then they wouldn’t pitch anymore! Dorman is a terrible teacher! The pictures seem to get worse under him.
Pictures versus pitchers lol.
Dorman also takes terrible pictures
You don’t have to count down to take a selfie.
Did Miiiiitch teach Bazzana that move to pick up the bounce off of Hainline to end the t7?
This team might not make it past the first few games of the regionals if they keep playing like they have since conference play began….
Wow….show Dorman the door!
Friday night PAC12 win is always a good thing, no matter how ugly it was. Beavs kind of ran through ASUs bullpen so they should cruise in the back half of the next 2 games.
Dorman is baffling and his staff is even more baffling.
Go Beavs!
“In the first Elite Eight game, Oregon State-South Carolina, OSU’s All-American post player Raegan Beers picked up her third foul with 56 seconds to play in the first half when she and Sania Feagin got tangled going for a rebound. Both fell to the floor but the replay showed minimal, inadvertent contact.
ESPN analyst Rebecca Lobo, a former All-American post, was outraged by the foul. And when the broadcast turned to longtime women’s official Lisa Mattingly, who now assigns games in the SEC, for an explanation, she couldn’t defend the call.
After OSU lost 70-58, Beavers coach Scott Rueck said, “we were walking on eggshells out there, playing in a china closet, trying to avoid that fourth or fifth foul. Because of that, you play a little tentative.””
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2024/04/05/womens-final-four-officials-college-basketball/73210469007/
Another piece by our gal, Lindsay. And no mention of airports or the lack of diversity in Corvallis.
“…when she and Sania Feagin got tangled going for a rebound. Both fell to the floor but the replay showed minimal, inadvertent contact.”
What in holy hell was she watching, because this in no way describes that play. There was no inadvertant contact. It was quite intentional. There was no rebound to be had. The woman who intentionally slammed her elbow and body into Beers’ back had just passed the ball, before she turned to Beers and crosschecked her in the back.
Lobo sounds like she knows hoops, because she reacted like I did. She saw precisely what happened.
This “report” is some major bullshit and the author should be ashamed to write this tripe.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/nancy-armour/2024/04/06/womens-final-four-iowa-uconn-call-controversy-officials/73227114007/
A lot of examples of mystifying calls and the only conclusion is lack of new refs and pay scale? The obvious 3rd option cheating. As more money is at stake, the more likely cheating is happening at high levels and refs can be easily influenced into making “helpful” calls for the cause.
I will continue to beat the drum on refs cheating at the suggestion of those who pay the bills in all of these sports (ESPN & conferences) No amount of naive misdirection will evade the reality of what my eyes see on n a regular basis.
“Believe me, don’t believe what you see.”
This is a lousy call to harp about.
You know how best not to get a foul called on a moving screen? Don’t move.
The people who think cheating (by getting away with a foul at the point of attack) is somehow the refs not deciding the game, rather the players, can take a hike.
A foul is a foul. And if one is blatant, it needs to be called.
That being said, Faegin’s actions showed intent. She released the ball, then she immediately coiled and threw herself into Beers, who had just turned to follow the ball. There was no entanglement of any sort before she intentionally made contact with her opponent’s back.
Like is said in this article… there’s video of it.
Apologies for the site linked, but it’s got video.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-basketball/news-what-raegan-beers-foul-looking-controversial-call-made-oregon-state-forward-elite-eight-showdown
This is possibly the worst call I have ever seen in a hoops game… ever.
The 1972 Olympics final would be the other, but I didn’t see it live.
Watching Bray at practice reminds me of Pete Carroll.
Brink gives an obvious reason for heading to the wnba. She doesn’t want to travel across the country.
https://awfulannouncing.com/college-basketball/cameron-brink-conference-realignment-travel-stanford.html
Isn’t there more travel in wnba?
Yeah they travel everytime the try the ridiculous eurostep, or pivot, or dropstep. The amount of uncalled travels in all of basketball is maddening to watch.
You aren’t taking college classes in the wnba.
Last August was literally a dagger in the heart when the PAC 12 essentially dissolved. I have PAC 10-12 ‘Athalon Annuals’ sitting on my book shelf that go back to at least ’83 and several seasons’ worth of ‘OSU Media Guides’ as well as media guides for various OSU bowl games. I have the game program from ’78 when we went over for homecoming and watched OSU-USC play; of course it was a losing effort, but I didn’ care. My Dad had gone here as well as numerous aunts/uncles, too. I was going to go there, too.
The portal has also ruined it, too, but for other reasons which have been discussed on here many times.
I’ll still root for OSU, but my interest isn’t going to be a die hard committment where I’ll give up another hunting season to watch what were crucial games; there are better things to do on a fall weekend and fretting over whether OSU will or won’t be ranked in the AP or coaches poll isn’t one of them anymore.
A different kind of game; a different impact by Dorman?
Through the t7 it’s Beavs 4-0. Kmatz has faced the minimum on 73 pitches (53 strikes).
Two DP’s and a caught stealing have preserved the “faced the minimum” thing.
Who’d a thunk it………..throw strikes/pitch to contact…..good things will happen.
Go Miiiitch! Go Dorman!
Dorman hasn’t had to make a decision yet. It’s been one pitcher representing the pitching staff today. Great one sided game.
But, but, he’s Kmatz’s coach, right?…..LOL
Note Reeder 3/4 today with a triple and double, 2 RBI’s, very nice to see.
Dorman is an amazing motivator. Great outing by Kmatz!
Don’t allow coach to make any choices, and we’re good.
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Kmatz did say it was the first time he’s ever thrown a complete game. So Dorman did make the choice to leave him in.
Going forward, I think I will care more about Beav athletics as an entertainment option as opposed to whether we win or lose. It’s hard to have an emotional attachment to an OSU team knowing the players don’t have the same attachment OSU. I don’t blame the athletes for chasing the dollars and playing time, but I need more than the fact that they are wearing a black & orange uniform (at least until a school with a better offer comes along) to really care about them. Beav athletics has very quickly and sadly become more of an investment for my time & money than my emotions. They can get in line with Niners, Giants and Warriors.
Wasn’t it always an entertainment option? What else is it?
My frustration was that Riley’s mediocrity and predictability wasn’t entertaining. Same w/Tinkle.
Rueck and Smith developed some entertaining teams.
Anyone see the interview with South Carolina coach asked about men players on her women’s basketball team? She says it would be fine with her if a man who says he is a woman played on her team. I wonder if that has already been the case with some of these programs and it needs to stop or all woman’s sport are in jeopardy.
How can administrators and politicians not see the inevitable loss of women’s sports as a result of this transgender mob movement?
I’ve been joking for several years that it is only a matter of time until some small college fields a team of male athletes as their women’s team and wins a women’s championship. Of course it would
Be hailed as a great thing by the loons in the media but for female athletes it would be a complete fraud and farce.
So… long eyelashes now good?
What transgender mob movement? Can you name more than 1 transgender athlete right now? If this was such a problem, we would have seen it happening much more often. It’s a fabricated issue by right wing grifters who are looking to stir the pot to eventually incite violence on marginalized people for existing. None of these grifters care even the slightest for female athletes but people are taking the bait.
Boys are boys and girls are girls.
I don’t know any “right wing grifters” but I can spot a political mob movement of intimidation and propaganda. The Lia Thomas situation was an obvious trial run to see how much would be allowed by NCAA and various courts/ruling bodies. It was the beginning of what has been spreading among high schools, club sports and lower division college athletics. It doesn’t take much effort to find the stories about teams forfeiting games in volleyball, basketball & wrestling for safety concerns about girls competing with the male athletes.
Outraged parents doesn’t equate to right wing grifters. It is foolish to think the issue isn’t coming to major college women’s sports and female athletes will lose opportunities because of it. Riley Gaines is right.
You sure have a lot of spare time.
Yeah, how dare he be informed on real world topics. What a loser.
Sorry, but he was on about not anything close to that.
It’s pretty much been nothing but really whiny boy-who-cried-wolf for years now.
See what actually happened during the Bowling Green massacre is the transgender mob movement (disguised as antifa)…oh, never mind.
Brittany Griner enters the chat….
Swatted!
She’d do it to me. She’s got skills.
Because your fears are quite literally irrational unfounded fears that come directly from being lied to over and over by bigots.
You’ve been “joking for several years” because you are an easily manipulated rube. What you fear is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
But even if it did, how is it the government’s business?
As of 2023, 32 transgender athletes competing in Division 1. Out of 187,000 athletes. It is the definition of a fake issue.
https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2023/03/09/national-ban-on-transgender-athletes-in-girls-sports-passed-by-u-s-house-panel/#:~:text=Currently%2C%2032%20transgender%20athletes%20openly,congressional%20action%2C”%20he%20said.
Congratulations on letting grifters make you angry about a fake issue.
That’s like saying if 1 person out of 187,000 is getting cheated. It doesn’t matter. It matters to that person.
I believe the context is the total destruction of women’s sports by the mob of transgender she-men looking to break little girls’ legs… or something along those lines.
If they want to approach it from the scientific side, then no, playing a numbers game would be subjective. But the people he’s lip-synching wouldn’t know science if it slapped them upside the head… with momentum created by kinetic energy.
No one is “getting cheated”
No matter how much you pretend people are getting “cheated”. They aren’t. Not 1 person has been “cheated”
Well… I guess if the 32 tg athletes number is accurate, then there are 32 women who have lost the opportunity to participate in college athletics. Are they “cheated”? Yes.
Women who have to compete against biological men. I’m not sure how to quantify that, but that is a disadvantage.
No, they are not “cheated”
A disadvantage doesn’t mean they were “cheated”
Look, my own personal view is that the NCAA should match the IOC rule which would ban a Lia Thomas BUT that is up to the NCAA and if they NCAA says different than no one is being “cheated”
You don’t have the right to be an NCAA athlete.
This atrocious pitching depth is going to make our ceiling the 1st regional round.
It’s fabricated? So there’s absolutely zero trasgendered athletes in the world? It seems the real grifters are the people denying the implications of biological men playing in women’s sports because of feeling.
There are plenty of transgender athletes. There are zero athletes who are choosing to be transgender to dominate a sporting event. That is the irrational fear mongering.
And the only ones letting “feelings” control them are the people angry about a non-issue. People like you.
That is one of the dumbest tales I’ve ever read. Have you been living under a rock for 4 years? Lia Thomas literally won national championships by pretending to be a female swimmer, and set NCAA records while doing it. Is that not “dominating a sporting event as a transgender”? It isn’t disputable, just stop.
Boys are boys and girls are girls.
Feelings, surgeries, drugs, pronouns and lies don’t change the reality that boys are boys and girls are girls.
I don’t give a shit about Lia Thomas or rather the NCAA bans transgender athletes from competing or not. I am just sick of listening to idiots like you whine and moan because the government isn’t taking control of NCAA women’s sports.
Whining about Lia Thomas and NCAA transgender rules just shows how pathetic and sad your life must be.
Lia Thomas did NOT transition to dominate NCAA women’s swimming. And if you believe she did you are stupider than I think you are. And I think you are quite stupid.
One last thing to add: Thomas didn’t even “dominate” women’s swimming.
She won 1 event and set 0 NCAA records so even the “Lie Thomson did it” defense you weirdoes are obsessed over is just another lie.
But isn’t it about all this and not that nobody ever cared about women’s athletics that OSU doesn’t have a swimming and diving team?
Yawn…you move your goal posts with each comment. First you declare that I am afraid, (not true) and somehow asking government officials to intervene, (which is not what I said), then you declare it isn’t happening at all,(I point out that is is) then you say zero trans athletes are dominating women’s sports,(Lia Thomas) then you say you don’t care if they are because no one is cheating, (biological males competing as females is by definition cheating) and now you just want to say I’m a stupid wierdo. But of course there is no transgender mob that uses intimidation to gain influence…yawn.
I rest my case.
I have moved zero goalposts. And no, you are a stupid weirdo because you repeat disinformation as if it is fact and even when you are proven wrong you double down. That is the behavior of a very weak minded person.
You falsely claimed that Lia Thomas won multiple Championships. She didn’t.
You falsely claimed Lia Thomas broke multiple NCAA records. She didn’t.
And competing under the rules set by the NCAA is the opposite of cheating. You just can’t help but lie.
Lia Thomas is NOT dominating women’s sports. Not even fucking close to dominating them.
You lied, I caught you in your lie, now you doubling down on the lie because you refuse to accept reality.
Lol people like me? yeah I have a feeling I would like my daughters to play against their peers of the same biological sex. Ones who don’t have a distinct advantage of pubescent testosterone running through their bodies. You can throw your own daughters to the wolves if you like. I want mine playing on a level playing field.
Cool, I bet if you had daughters that were actually world class athletes they wouldn’t be whiney little bitches like you are.
Here is the opinion of a woman with an Olympic Gold medal.
“I believe that treating people with respect and dignity is more important than any trophy or record will ever be, which is why I will not have a problem racing against Lia at NCAAs this year”
-Brooke Ford
If she doesn’t care, why do you?
So funny that you claim it is a non issue but todays news is NAIA has banned trans athletes from women’s sports. You try to bully and ridicule those of us who make a simple point that is a concern and now your arguments are exposed. Apparently it is an issue and there are administrators who prefer women in women’s sports in lower division athletics.
LOL, are you illiterate?
I have quite clearly stated I do not give a fuck if the NCAA bans or allows transgender athletes. It is a “non issue” because it is up to the NCAA and the only reason it’s part of the public discourse is because a bunch of right wing grifters need to keep people like you angry at meaningless nonsense.
And what do you know, it’s working.
Politicians shouldn’t be arguing about it. Courts shouldn’t be arguing about it. The NCAA should make its own rules.
That is why it’s a non-issue. Good for the NAIA, if progressives whine about it I will tell them the same thing I am telling you, stop being a whiney bitch.
Depending on the state, some public schools will have issues, and the courts may have to decide something.
In most states the championship events are ran by private organizations just like the NCAA. The OSAA is a private non-profit.
If a school doesn’t want to compete under NCAA or OSAA rules they have that option but the government has no role in the rule making process in my opinion.
You’re awfully emotional about something you state doesn’t happen. And I don’t really care what her opinion is. Just like I don’t care what your opinion is and you shouldn’t care what my opinion is. I’ve said nothing to disparage Trans people, I think they have a distinct advantage that is akin to steroids biological within them. I’m not sure why you don’t think the playing field should be fair for everyone involved?
I am emotional about watching there United States be turned into a shit hole because so many right wingers have decided they want to control everything about everything.
That does fucking tick me off. No denial there.
And again, I have clearly stated that I personally think the NCAA should do whatever the IOC does. I just don’t need to keep watching Republicans use an issue that affects less than a quarter of 1% of athletes when the United States has real problems. The culture war bullshit is what I am sick of, all of it.
The real issue is that the science doesn’t bear any facts of importance in this so-called unfair advantage, and it really won’t until about 20 years from now–longer, if exclusion occurs.
So banging the bigot drum now doesn’t carry any water.
Sorry, but some people get the wrong parts when they’re born. It’s bound to happen, with billions of genetic combinations and all the playing around with chemicals everywhere.
The world’s a messy place, and whining about a tiny fraction of the billions of people who inhabit it, because feelings, is just the next whine.
It’ll run its cycle and be selectively forgotten, with the rest of them.
Oh I agree, science absolutely recognizes intersex people.
The people that say “boys are boys and girls are girls” are ignoring the actual science.
But I’m just sick of wasting time, energy, and TAX money on this.
Let the NCAA decide.
Really?? Some people just get the ‘wrong parts?’? Pull my other finger.. Olympia. WA is home to one of the most liberal educational institutions in the nation; so liberal, in fact, they don’t even have a grading system and let the students determine whether they pass/fail.
At any rate, my neighbor works in the on-site daycare for professors and other who work there. He told me a tale that pissed me off to no end about a couple of husband/wife professors who had twin boys. Wishing that one of them had been born female, they started dressing one up as a female and asked the providers to address the child using a female name, essentially trying to raise one of the boys as a female and the other as a male. This was occurring when the child was not even 1 yet.
This kid didn’t even have a chance, he was being used in a ‘grooming’ experiment that only many years later would he realize what happened. This is pure evil on its face. I fully expect that at some point in the future, he/she will take some sort of retribution out on his ‘parents’.
This shit has gone too far and a majority of the public find it abhorent but are just too chicken shit to say anything or call bullshit on it. I should have carried through on my threat to contact child welfare, but this being Washington, most likely nothing would have been done.
Grooming for what?
The parents have a right to raise their kid however they feel, so long as they don’t abuse the kid. And he can grow up like the rest of us, hating their parents during their teen years for all the dumb things they did for the previous 12 years.
Now you’re apparently the parent police? How much does that pay? Is it a steady gig?
If I applied for the job, would I do it in all caps or with a lot of whiny weasel words?
Of course they’re the “parent police”
They don’t give a shit that they “groom” their kids into a cult before the kid has a chance to decide for themselves but heaven forbid other parents do the same.
“Parental rights for me but not for you” is the mantra of the modern fake conservative.
Who is doing the “grooming, dipshit? Primarily teachers, that’s who. Take a look at who makes up the teacher’s unions and which party they support. Your rants about “right wingers” is laughable.
Yes. Some people “just get the wrong parts”
I didn’t read past that line because your ignorance is beyond comprehension.
Google Swyer’s Syndrome. It’s quite literally XY Chromosomes with female anatomy.
Of course some people “just get the wrong parts”
That’s is an undeniable scientific FACT proven by the existence of Swyer’s Syndrome.
Ignorance is a choice, make better ones.
This is honestly embarrassing.
You can think for yourself.
This is allowed.
Beavs/Sun Devils tied 7-7 bottom of the 4th. Beavs threatening. Sunday pitching kind of game. Segura didn’t have it today.
Canham has got to be the biggest tool. Had absolutely no idea what he is doing. This team will be lucky to make super regional.
Pitching isn’t all Dorman. It’s Canham that calls the shots when he to visit ands pull.
Canham has got to be the biggest tool. Had absolutely no idea what he is doing. This team will be lucky to make super regional.
Pitching isn’t all Dorman. It’s Canham that calls the shots when he to visit ands pull.
This beaver team won’t make it out of super regional if they make it out of regional.
Canham coaching is absolutely horrific. Don’t blame all pitching on Dorman. Canham makes all the decisions don’t let it fool you.
This beaver team won’t make it out of super regional if they make it out of regional.
Canham coaching is absolutely horrific. Don’t blame all pitching on Dorman. Canham makes all the decisions don’t let it fool you.
This beaver team won’t make it out of super regional if they make it out of regional.
Canham coaching is absolutely horrific. Don’t blame all pitching on Dorman. Canham makes all the decisions don’t let it fool you.
This beaver team won’t make it out of super regional if they make it out of regional.
Canham coaching is absolutely horrific. Don’t blame all pitching on Dorman. Canham makes all the decisions don’t let it fool you.
This team plays some absolute bad baseball Casey has to be kicking himself for this hire.
Lol
Why the name change “Student Beaver”?
Firm duck mentality.
Small duck energy
No friends, no life, he’s bored. Mommy must have took his gaming console away.
While I’m glad Rueck is staying in Corvallis, I’m stunned his name didn’t come up for the Miami and Tennessee jobs – especially considering those schools hired coaches from Marshall and Toledo.
His name did come up at Tennessee according to one of their insiders. But he was down the list and they never said if he was contacted about it. The gal from Marshall who took the job was the #2 choice.
He is?
I found that he signed a new contract. w the Beavs to 2031.Of course it could be bought out but except for Tennessee there doesn’t seem to be much of a buzz and it didn’t seem to come from Tennessee.
Do they do a “final poll” after the tourney for women’s hoops?
OSU Women finish #8 and rest of PAC is as follows:
“Oregon State was the second highest ranked Pac-12 team in the final poll. Joining the Beavers are No. 5 USC, Stanford (9), UCLA (10), Colorado (15) and Utah (22).”
And well done ladies and coaching staff!
I hope the ladies shoot hundreds of shots per day each in the offseason. Need to avoid those cold shooting spells and make the inside/out game even better.
So they can be better shooters for their new teams after they enter the portal.
So they can be better shooters for their new teams after they enter the portal.
It is disappointing they won’t be able to have the team throw out the first pitch at a game at Goss – I mean – I guess those that remain can – but it was such a special season, and all of them deserve to be saluted. A game against the Ducks would have been perfect.
Baseball update – this season is different across the entire nation. It’s the steroid era but without steroids. Hitters are having their way with pitchers this year.
The eye test and the scores say this team is vulnerable in the post season. Relative to previous seasons. No dominant starter and a shaky bullpen says this team doesn’t have a shot getting out of supers. Defense is still having issues.
There is no doubt that this year’s pitching staff is not great but relative to what’s happening elsewhere…they are just fine and could get them through supers. Beavs unlikely to see any of the better staffs until Omaha.
ERA – #12 in the country. Read that a few times
WHIP – #24
Batting average against – #28
How does the team compare in errors? Seems more frequent from other years when the teams were good but maybe not too bad in comparison to the rest of the country.
Bad, bad, bad. #120 in the country. But out of 295 programs. top 50%.
Beavs are adapting to the modern game. Nothing wrong with that. Wins are what matters and we’re doing pretty well in that area.
I wonder how much overuse injuries are impacting the overall quality of pitching, thus leading to easier hitting matchups nationwide.
Its a few parts,
The science of hitting is far ahead of pitching right now. Things like hittraxx are really elevating hitters to better swings. Letting them know where the holes in their swings are and how to improve them without overhauling their swings. vs the past where a hitting coach is just watching them and trying things out. Cage time is much more efficient now. Why we see more home runs than before. Guys are squaring it up more often and the right launch angles.
Pitching is behind because of a couple things. The pitch clock, there is less time for the coaches to determine what pitches to throw. Pitchers have to execute faster and at this level, they struggle. Pitchers also have the same technology to show how their pitches spin and move but the execution to improve pitches is a slow climb. Can’t throw bullpens everyday but a hitter can take hundreds of cuts everyday.
and overuse before getting to school is still a big issue.
I still get frustrated with Mitch and some of his decisions, and I can’t believe they pitch to the Auburn 1b during the super regionals in 2022. But I had this thought over the weekend, look at how quickly ASU has fallen apart. I know there was NCAA violations, but with all the location/talent/history..etc advantages you think they’d be able to put it together.
Maybe Kentucky will poach Tinkle!
Then he can talk about jimmy’s and joe’s..
Or “Jimmies and Joes” more appropriately
Just announced Gardiner in the portal. I feel bad for Rueck. Be interesting to see where everyone lands. Is the NIL money that great for WBB? I don’t know how long the Beavs will be in the WCC, but if anyone can do a “Gonzaga” for WBB it will be Rueck.
Should send the NIL money to Rueck.
Speaking of Nucs, in 12 days I get my first bees. Kinda nervous they’re just going to fly away. lol.
Bees are on my list.
Already got chickens and planted a bunch of fruit trees.
Bought 10 mature blueberry plants, have probably another 10 young ones.
I’m so obsessed I’m using my wife’s IP.
Happened to my father’s hive this winter. Went all moldy, and he’s replacing the racks.
The mason bees are busy earlier than last year. Both my houses are at least half full.
I doubt we’ll have to worry about mold in CO. Pests/mites, wind, and just doing things in the right order are my concerns.
It went moldy because of a fall swarm.
He thinks it was the long heat of late summer in 2022 and him not treating the colony at the time. The mite count can be low going into the winter treatment, but if it’s warm and no remediation is taken between treatments, virus can replicate and take hold over winter. So you can get a zero count in the spring, and the colony will produce like always, but the virus is still silently killing them off.
Interesting! Thanks. I’m sure this will fail, but like da Beavs, there’s always next year.
It’s funny, because he butt-dialed me the other day, and this was part of the conversation.
TG follows TVOs lead into the portal. Hunter and Beers are next. Then others. Rueck is working hard to hold it together but I’m afraid TVO was the start of the mass exodus. Rueck may also decide to go once the dust settles. I don’t blame TVO for her decision since she has already graduated, but I believe that if she had stayed, others would have too. My hunch is this team/group will look back on their decisions with a tinge of regret… what could have been? had they stuck it out. Btw, NIL has nothing to do with the transfers. WCC/TVO are the drivers in all of this. Once Beers announces, there is a good chance Rueck will tap out too IMO
It’s interesting what Few has been able to do at Gonzaga, one would think it could be duplicated with the right coach elsewhere. Rueck is as talented as anyone, but apparently, he can’t get his current group of players to buy into that. The thing about college players is that they don’t stay forever anyway, it just seems that way because of the COVID year.
Rueck is so good that this was his 4th great team in less than 15 years. And he is already facing a third roster rebuild and a second roster rebuild similar to post Covid but without a conference. Very dicey situation and we will learn about Scott a bit as things progress.
Rueck has a new contract to 2031. Job openings? And something not mentioned – most programs are hiring women coaches. I just hope I never again hear a bunch of kids carry on abt loving each other. I can understand Tinkle’s players ditching, but Rueck? Talia understandable. And she did it immediately. I hope Timea has fond memories of her trip to Italy, the year she rehabbed at OSU and the coaching. she received. And pls – assuming more are leaving – what are they waiting for? And please don’t send one of those crap always a beaver repeats.
I do think NILs are so new, players have the FOMO, maybe they have family situations where any money they can grab now, they feel they need to. And I’m guessing they already have an idea of where they will go and the dollar amounts. I doubt many of us would stay at the same job if someone else was offering a 20 to 30 percent bump. And that’s what playing college sports is.
It really depends because who cares if you have money. More money, more problems. Many more things to life and that’s what I would be thinking about if I were in their position. Ever chased the money and regretted it? You know what you are getting in Rueck. You know what you are getting with the teammates you have. I’d love to hear some interviews from Speights, Griffin, etc about how they feel about transferring. It seems Taylor Jones has done well at Texas but I’m just basing that on stats. Glenn Taylor back in the portal. That move didn’t work but he got some money for about 8 months of “work”.
“…I doubt many of us would stay at the same job if someone else was offering a 20 to 30 percent bump. And that’s what playing college sports is…”
If someone offered me a 20-30% raise at my job, I’d consider it. A job usually is the primary means for every day, stable finances.
Attending a university, whose degree program typically has the student attend some classes in areas that are outside of your expertise, but develop skills that are arguably good to have (writing, critical thinking, finance, communications, electives the student may have interest in but would like to know more about, etc) in society, moreso on a scholarship, is not?
I realize there is a vision that (public) college should only focus on what will prepare a student immediately for the work force, and nothing else. I understand what merits that view and the feelings that accompany it. I think too, that one has to consider that any public student body is vast and public education has to balance those concerns as well: genuine undecideds (my clinical pharmacist spouse didn’t declare until well into her second year), career changers, aged folks, international/exchange students, and so on.
Likewise where funding is available, I feel it’s important for public institutions to have some sports/athletic program. Sports/athletics are in themselves, education. Coaches aren’t “coaches.” They teach, instruct and mentor in their area of expertise. Participating in sports, even as recreation, instills intangible, life long lessons that people take with them. Any one who has participated in a sport on any level, knows that.
I want to tie this to the topic of why each of us have an interest in college sports and athletics. NIL as it is right now, will just further accelerate the idea of attending college towards, “what benefits me most immediately,” and away from these other ideas. It’s another factor that will wear down on notions of team camaraderie, loyalty, school spirit and so on. Why should you as an athlete, even bother to learn your school’s fight song for example, if you’re focus is on getting what’s yours?
That thought makes me incredibly sad. College sports happened to be one of last few places where that engagement between student body (including alumni), and team seemed to resonate.
“if your focus…” lol. >.>
Rumor is DM is hitting the portal. Was not at practice today.
The faces of athletics are all in the portal (Talia, Pope, and likely Dame).
Jada Carey hasn’t left yet…..
Either our OL is going to suck or he really didn’t get along with Ford
2 weeks of spring ball eroded a lot of
Loyalty if rumors are true.
Just shows that poaching and offers are happening no matter the time of year.
I wonder how many millions he was actually
Offered and which sec team he lands at.
Bummer but not really a surprise I guess.
It could easily be a culture thing, too. Totally new staff, lots of new players.
What rumors?
He’s saying if these rumors are true, then the bags eroded a lot of loyalty.
At least that’s the way I read it.
I don’t think any SEC teams exist where the grass is recreational.
So I would guess one of the Pacific states, Michigan, or now Ohio.
I’m actually not super surprised and I was weary when they had been rolling him out as the ‘Loyalty’ campaigner before and as they got into Spring practice with the new staff. I can see how getting into the first few weeks of Spring and getting the feel for how the offense is going to be under Gundy may have changed a lot of variables for DM.
If he doesn’t think he’s going to have as productive of a final “college” year as he otherwise could at a B1G/SEC school while making more than he will on draft day next season, or if he’s seeing an offense and an offensive line that’s not nearly as elite as it was last year and it’s not the best fit for him professionally, it’s kind of a no-brainer, just a heart-breaker.
Another thing to consider is the timing, DM got himself into legal trouble and got very lucky this off-season that it didn’t end up escalating to more than it was (that we know of). We don’t know what internal stipulations he was under by Bray. It’s also the beginning of a new academic term, and while I’ve never seen any narrative that DM has struggled to be successful in the classroom, it’s possible that he didn’t pass all he needed to or get the GPA he needed during Winter term to be eligible and has make-up work he needs to do in order to be eligible by Fall.
There’s also family considerations… does he have a relative or family situation in Texas that he urgently wants to be able to closer to etc?
These are young people and at 18-21 just having a real bad day with one of the new coaches would have had me looking hard at the portal, especially if I was in DM’s position and had all of the big $ offers coming in already.
It will be interesting to see how he spins it given how outspoken he has been about staying and ‘Loyalty’, but just please don’t end up in East Lansing with Judas.
The bagses steal my precious?
I guess this means playing time for Hatcher.
Jam is the new feature back. I’m fine with that.
We know he can catch a simple toss.
I thought this ‘window’ was for basketball players to enter the portal.
There is an April opening but i don’t know the dates. It’s for after spring ball.
15th
The next portal opens after spring ball, and players intending to enter it will stop practicing.
Throw some of that money at wbb, please.
Wonder if DM NIL check cleared from the OSU collective and he left to get another one.
Per 24/7 Damien Martinez intends to enter the transfer portal
Espn reporting it too. It also said he makes 400,000 in NIL. That seems low.
$400,000 from the Beaver collective? So he can take that and run? So the organic collection
400 OOO from.the beaver collective? He can take that and go?
$400,000 from the Beaver collective? So he can take that and go
I think that was for playing next season. The check hasn’t been written yet, but the contract was probably signed.
SlowGoat
Meanbeaver :(
I predict that Damien Martinez will be entering the transfer portal soon. I don’t want you guys to be surprised by this when it happens, in case you begin hearing reports from various sports sites.
It’s starting to hit the social media stuff. Nothing confirmed yet that I can see but it’s definitely gaining traction.
Remember the videos of players hyping the Bray hire? Just about all of them are gone. It was all bullshit for clicks.
??
Anybody’s video in particular? Or stuff that was put out by the Beaverfootball account?
It was like Facebook live after the announcement. They were out on one of the decks at VFC. I’m almost sure that’s were DM called Smith a hobbit or midget or something similar. Masceranas brothers were there and Bolden, DM and few other guys I didn’t recognize. It was on Instagram now that I think about it. It looked like a cross between a drunk party video and the start of a moments from disaster video. Little did we know it was the latter.
Oh and no I don’t remember who posted it but I think it might have been posted here.
As I’ve said earlier, college athletes are now mercenaries “working” for the highest bidder. Little to zero loyalty. In a way the college athlete has a better gig than the pros since there is no long term contract. Something needs to change for the schools with the pendalum swinging 180 degrees in favor of the athlete. If they are going to be compensated like a professional, there needs to be some sort of contract signed with negotiated years.
Better “free agency ” terms than pros….
Sucks that DM is leaving, but only a little surprising…
I’m gotten to the point where this is just where we are now. I’m not surprised. We’ll attract players who want to prove themselves but once they do, they’ll be gone and it’ll be more than likely a good financial decision.
We just need enough NIL $ to give deserving guys and gals some dough. We ain’t going to win bidding wars unless OSU changes its entire mindset to go along with a massive influx of funding. I don’t see it happening anytime soon.
I’ve even seen several OSU fans I know unhappy DM was getting $400k when many deserving college students leave loaded with debt. Our fan base doesn’t have an SEC mindset. Which is probably ok.
“Our fan base doesn’t have an SEC mindset. Which is probably ok.”
Agreed!
Maybe a NIL limit to any player. If they become a super star & want to leave – ok. Forget the bribing.
It was not NIL$. I was told it was an agent that has been in his ear for months and finally convinced him that his “lack of exposure” would hurt his draft stock. Hearing rumblings that “important folks” are pissed and they might just blow the lid off this entire NIL cesspool and expose agents and schools that are not playing by the rules. Sounds like the time to play nice is over.
“Hurt his draft stock” lol. Has there been a high draft pick Running back in the last 10 years? NFL isn’t interested in running backs like they used to be.
Agents are taking money off of him already and he should be aware that agents are exactly altruistic.
That’s not how the NFL evaluates RBs.
In fact, one could argue going somewhere he would be excessively used would devalue his stock, in their eyes. RBs have a short shelf life. And the less wear when they get to the league, the better.
Yep. Only so much tread life.
Agreed. He could rack up some impressive numbers in a relatively light workload.
I recall BSU RB Ian (?) Johnson getting a pretty good NFL opportunity.
RBs are rarely seen as 1st round positions anymore, so not sure what he expects.
Corrected: Doug Martin, not Johnson.
I was shocked to see what the average salary was for a free agent running back in the NFL compared to other positions.
I understand passing more or less is king right now, but running back feels massively undervalued. If your team can’t even put up the semblance of a running attack; you’re going to get smoked.
Who are the “important folks” that are left in OSU’s corner? The AD, prez, and former players don’t carry any weight. If they did, we wouldn’t be in this entire situation. No fault of their own but we don’t have any firepower.
Just some people in the know who need to be talked off the ledge.
Praise FR RB Allah:
“After hearing this information, I just got a little hungrier than I already was.”
As a poster alluded to above, I hope OSU goes scorched earth over this NIL/transfer portal bullshit. We’ve got nothing to lose, time to name names.
And then no one with any sort of power cares. The current path is beneficial to the high dollar schools in order to seize more power and more money.
That’s too bad about Dame.
Oh well. Go Beavs!
Wow. Mejia is just not good. Wild pitch. Hit batter. A walk and a couple of base hits. Don’t think he’s even recorded an out. Beavs had a 4 run lead in the 5th. Now it’s a 1 run lead. He’s really struggled this year.
Tied now in the t7, Dorman brings in his sixth arm…Noah Ferguson with go ahead run on 1st with 2 down.
Noah promptly walks the batter to put 2 on.
Giving up stolen bases cost them 2 runs. 4 errors
Dumb base running by Weber for 2nd straight game.
Canham coaching is horrible. Both teams playing like midmajor. Oh wait Portland is.
Giving up stolen bases cost them 2 runs. 4 errors
Dumb base running by Weber for 2nd straight game.
Canham coaching is horrible. Both teams playing like midmajor. Oh wait Portland is.
Is that you studentbeaver?
I keep seeing reference to Jam Griffin, I thought he went to LSU or Mississippi or something in the area and wasn’t getting the reps. Did he come back?
He transferred back to the Beavs awhile ago.
New theory for Martinez transferring:
Gundy really likes the freshmen end and incoming transfers and has been preparing the running back room for a true competition rather than a single featured back. Martinez looked around the running back room and it felt kind of crowded all of a sudden.
My theory is DM knows the OL is going to be subpar and his stats will plummet.
Remember, he benefited big-time from having the nation’s best run locking.
What a terrible take. DM is scared of competition? He’s far and away the best back and he knows it. Every coach is going to ride him as much as they can.
Seems more likely that it may have to do with UW. They just lost a RB to an arrest. But most likely somewhere across the Mississippi.
Eh… he has some glaring deficiencies.
But he’s great when he has the ball in his hands.
So are we on a Scott Rueck watch until Stanford fills the WBB coaching vacancy? Tara Vanderveer announced she has retired tonight.
It’s a no win situation for whoever takes the job there.
I’m hoping Vanderveer waited so one of her assistants gets the gig. Vanderveer is such a legend. ONE losing season in her entire career. Four titles, the all-time winningest coach, .818 winning percentage. FIFTEEN Final Fours. And yet, people will think of Summit, Auriema and Staley – even Mulkey before getting around to her.
Stanford is a school that do well – many top wbb players are also solid students – and a Stanford degree is is worth a ton. But with NIL – who knows if it will be tougher now – all sports are changing.
Staley and especially Mulkey need to do a lot to even be in the discussion with the other three, but Summitt and Auriemma both have better numbers than Vanderveer, overall.
Bridger, “bright spot” Holmes closes it out, Beavs win 11-8
Mid-week pitching not good, but hitting bails us out again.
Unfortunately it’s both teams midweek pitching.
It’s why Beavers struggle on weekends their bats can’t keep up with the errors and mental mistakes.
Unfortunately it’s both teams midweek pitching.
It’s why Beavers struggle on weekends their bats can’t keep up with the errors and mental mistakes.
Unfortunately it’s both teams midweek pitching.
It’s why Beavers struggle on weekends their bats can’t keep up with the errors and mental mistakes.
I suspect This will be an unpopular take… But I’m not going to thank TVO for her time at Oregon State. She was the leader of the team and her leaving more than likely will blow up the women’s basketball basketball program. If she had stayed, I suspect the team would have stayed together, following her lead, and next year we have a potential final 4 women’s team.
I would tell any young person… Do not make decisions based on a girlfriend or a boyfriend. They almost always come back to haunt you. Do what is best for yourself and if it’s meant to be, it will work out. She’ll probably get dumped by her boyfriend at Southern Cal and regret this decision.
Not a great day to be a Beaver….
And not a great time to be a college but sports fan… As we watch it swirl down the toilet.
The double speak is what burns me about some of these xfers. Apparently her and TG told Rueck that they were leaving as soon as they got back. Seems highly unlikely the plane ride is what made them make that big of a decision so it was being explored before they got home that’s for sure. So don’t give me the loyalty stuff, etc and then a day later it’s “peace out”. Also seems like Beers is likely next based on some social media stuff. Might be today. Who knows though.
What is the source for when they told Rueck? We heard different ideas about Smiths timeline and sometimes folks come up with theories and they are more so from emotion than solid sources. Was this a player on the team, a parent of a player? A staff member from the team? The pilot?
The team seemed very locked in both games. If there were any distractions then they put those aside for both games pretty well. I was worried they’d show up flat against ND.
Believe it was a Daschel article
Looking more suspect everu day.
Kids do dumb things, who knew? It’s not like we don’t have talent behind her barring a mass exodus. Someone told me Gardiner had stated several times that she would like to be a center type player and thats why shes leaving. I don’t know if that’s true but Beers has cemented herself in that position for as long as she stays around.
I followed my first love when I went to college. My first love was Oregon State. Only school I applied to. Maybe I was dumb and in love as well. It worked out great. I haven’t asked TVO, but if I was her, I wouldn’t be too worried what folks think about my decision. She came to OSU during her senior season of high school, joined the team, and provided some pretty significant contributions while she was on the team. I say darn, it sucks she is leaving, but go do you TVO.
Noticed that agent for Martinez and Jam Griffin recently started following each other.
Have to wonder if part of this is the agent trying to get more exposure for his clients.
Martinez getting more TV exposure, and Jam not having to sit behind Martinez, with a chance to be the featured back now.
But as they say, it’s a business decision, and so is my decision to not spend anything on NIL related apparel/products or donate to the bottomless pit of Collective NILs and ollege athletics.
“Have to wonder if part of this is the agent trying to get more exposure for his clients.”
Standard agent behavior. Look at how agents move coaches around and maximize income.
If the Oline is decent, Griffin could probably make some opponents on the 2024 schedule look silly.
What are thoughts on Martinez destination?
i would guess mich st or ohio st
Which sells the leafy green medicine legally?
UO? Predicted by some to be about the #3 team in the B10 next year?
UW?
Michigan has the biggest need at RB of the bunch. But who gives a fuck?
tOSU got Judkins from Ole Miss. Definitely not there.
I would say definitely no to Mich St. the way it all went down with Smith leaving.
Miami or Mississippi State
I don’t care. It’s all about the power that Oregon State doesn’t have. Goodbye Damien. BTW, any more information abt the TV coverage for football games not already programmed?
Every home game will be on the CW network.
Every away game will be on whatever network the away team is contractually obligated to use.
Or was your question about something else?
So wouldn’t the refs for the OSU-UO game at Reser this fall be PAC 2 refs?
I dont know, do we even have Pac2 refs?
Or are we using MW refs this season?
What happens when Notre Dame plays non conference home games? Do they use ACC refs?
Thx. wasn’t sure if CW network was a done deal.
It seems like this will make people less willing to give to NIL funds if Martinez was the top (only?) guy getting NIL and he skips town. Why support the mercenaries at all? It strikes me that OSU has 3 sports that can become a perennial power and football isn’t going to be one of them: Baseball, WBB, Wrestling…maybe focus on those sports before flushing money to mercenaries on the football team. Or at least create a public forum of accountability for whether the money gets returned back into the NIL fund if the athlete leaves. I think the money needs to be given under an expectation of staying for your career but I know that is pollyanna thinking. Are there stipulations linked to NIL payouts? Does anyone have details for how the arrangements are made?
Does anyone know how much Martinez was paid? What is frustrating is the idea that he got the lion’s share of NIL, several other guys hit the portal that may have stayed if we could have used that chunk to bribe them to stay…The whole thing is just gross, and all of it was obviously illegal less than 4 years ago. It used to be called cheating scandals and now it is just business.
I’d prefer to hire coaches who emphasize loyalty and principle, staying the course, long term goals, and in turn recruiting the type of kids that can buy into those ideas.
We have a culture defined by “getting mine now” and it results in athletes transferrign multiple times, coaches jumping at the first opportunity, schools lying to fellow conference members in order to collapse a conference, networks overpaying for exclusive rights in order to implode competition in their market, and eventually cause realignment to pay their own bills. Perhaps we are in the
Wrestling? We have a wrestler or two every year that make a deep run but we aren’t that great at duels outside conference matches. We got smoked several times this year alone. I’d say we’re more gymnastics then a wrestling school.
I know of one coach who isn’t “jumping at the first opportunity”. Of course, nobody is jumping at him…
Perhaps we are in the death spiral of collegiate sports altogether.
Or at least the ones that can sell advertising.
RBs play on…
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/04/damien-martinez-transfer-oregon-state-beavers-lose-batman-but-still-have-superman-and-others-in-running-back-room.html
OSU is now the Oakland A’s of college sports. Talented athletes will leave as soon as they can, and we can’t do anything about it, neither can the silly OSU NIL fund.
I am thankful for the memories of PAC10/12 glory but it is over and the ax has been laid to the root of the tree already. These last several transfers are a harbinger of what is to come for OSU and WSU. I don’t think it will be repaired and the media driven changes have killed 2 proud universities of the sports realm. More will follow after but we are of the first.
Interesting how Big10 is already floating stories justifying how the bottom-feeder programs might be cut loose form the “contenders”.
OSU is more Pirates than A’s. The A’s are actively trying to lose. The Pirates just don’t spend.
Adlee Blacklock heads to transfer portal, increasing Beavers women’s basketball total to three
Who’s next?
Any idea when the portal closes?
Not soon enough!
Kate Paye, longtime asst takes over at Stanford.
https://archive.ph/HCP8I#selection-2675.43-2675.52
Well known for quite some time that she would be TV’s chosen successor. Puzzling that anyone suggested they would consider Scott Rueck.
Puzzling, or simply an indication of a shell shocked fan base?
I’ll confess to shell shocked fan base #1. At this point, I’m expecting Rueck, Bray and Canham to all move on before summer. No one will be left but Barnes acting like Leslie Nielsen in Airplane “Nothing to see here folks” and waving everyone along.
Every star athlete from 3/4 top sports have departed and so far Smith/crew have left. What will keep any of them?
You ask why Rueck can’t keep his roster, I’d ask what Barnes is saying to help any of these coaches?
Surly you can’t be serious. The “nothing to see here, move along” quote is from The Naked Gun.
Imagine if Jen-Hsun and Lori Huang decided to become Oregon State’s Sugar Mama/Daddy when they’re on campus this week?
Lori is also an OSU alum.
Such a big opportunity sitting right in front of us in the next couple of days.
esports opportunity
make that money
Is it that lucrative? I remember all the Instagram and youtube short videos making the rounds before covid. But I’ve seen almost nothing about it over the last year and a half to two years. I know my algorithm hasn’t changed much since then. To me it seems to have lost some steam.
esports worldwide streaming was valued at $1b in 2020 and $1.75b in 2023. It’s projected to be a $10b market in less than a decade.
Investment now means grabbing some of that market. And we might have a couple alumni who could foster that endeavor and see it as us helping to progress the technology.
The way my kids become fixated with guys like Mr Beast and other youtubers who do online Minecraft, I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s like crack to them. They’d watch it all day if we let them. And any time they take a break, they’d be tracking down the products those guys are hawking on their youtube channels.
Now imagine that branding for OSU in team events and sponsored tournaments.
Other schools would have to spend a wad just to keep up on facilities. Not everyone has a supercomputer. Future generations will argue about several of our claimed national championships, adding them to our official count. People will whine about our unfair relationship with Nvidia and how hydroelectric power gives us a regional advantage, due to cost.
But most of all, it’ll make money and provide subscriptions from other than traditional sports sources, which are a grumbly bunch when it comes to streaming.
That would be great i guess if we’re down to the sugar daddy model of UO and Okie State, but how does propping up football and WBB help their business? The esports, as Jack mentioned, I get. But why would they dump money into a broken business model?
If they can catalyze a model reset and help OSU sports become sustainable, that would be cool.
How about start with a Tinkle buyout at least. Right now that would be really good news just to see someone who should’ve left already leave.
I’m waiting for TPB 2.0 to show up and whisk him away. But that’s like hitting the power ball twice in a lifetime.
I know of one coach who isn’t “jumping at the first opportunity”. Of course, nobody is jumping at him…
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-cougars/wsu-osu-attorney-suggests-departing-pac-12-schools-on-hook-for-lawsuit-damages/
Well, looks like an opportunity at UW just opened up for Martinez:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/pac12/2024/04/10/tybo-rogers-washington-huskies-football-arrest/73274099007/
UW, or Michigan….hmmmm, I’m guessing Michigan
Other (gross) thoughts for “exposure” – Colorado and Alabama. I read Alabama had one moving on to NFL, another transfer out.
I know nobody cares where Martinez goes, but i’m curious as things continue to spiral out of control.
What has spiraled out of control?
Regarding Martinez: as I said many months ago, anyone who is established should and will leave…it doesn’t make sense for them to play in a conference that’s going to have a stigma for their draft prospects. If we’re being objective, that’s the truth.
Yeah but he has been pounding his chest for months he is loyal and would never leave us when we needed him the most. He came in to Twitter fan spaces and said this over and over. Now he is slamming the collective on the way out the door doing more damage. Wait until the truth comes out. It’s going to be eye opening. Folks are about to go on the record and go scorched earth on this whole thing.
Just say what you know.
At least we know Martinez is after more money. I mean, I don’t care that much that he’s leaving, he was only going to play one more year, right? We all went crazy over Jemar Jefferson, he couldn’t even make a roster. Running Back careers are mostly short and constantly at risk for injury.
I think it’s more interesting that Rueck can’t keep his team intact. They could have been the Gonzaga of the WCC and probably reached elite 8, final 4. So it’s not about winning, women don’t get much NIL. What’s really the exposure of going to another program unless they all land at UConn or South Carolina? Most don’t make the WNBA and who is following their European careers? Why can’t Rueck make a convincing argument?
So, you gonna kick Rueck while he’s down?………LOL, actually a good question.
So now we hate him, huh?
I don’t hate him at all, but if you can’t convince a possible final-four team to stay together there’s no fucking hope. Be interesting to see if Mitch will be able to make a convincing argument too.
Well the narrative shifted from “he’s loyal and one of us” (positive) to this talk about how he only had another year and Jefferson couldn’t make a roster (sudden shift to a negative/spurned tone).
That narrative didn’t come from me, OSU has had a solid history of running backs, and I was a little surprised everyone was putting their eggs in the Martinez basket. Didn’t he miss a couple of games with injuries? Sure, he’s good, but the OL was a big part of that. Hell, Jam Griffin almost rushed for 500 yards two years ago.
Who even follows their wnba careers? After this year’s batch of stars graduates, and anyone challenging Dawn Staley’s every- year-a-new-team gets crushed, I think much of this year’s frenzy will abate.
Inquiring minds what to know.
Unless I’m missing something there is an “agent” in his ear that barely looks out of high school. Allegedly was shopping DM around trying to find him a better offer while encouraging him to go elsewhere. The only thing to expose is the scummy side of these so called agents but otherwise nothing of note is really happening. Digital Dam and some others on twitter identify this guy as the agent…
https://twitter.com/agent__OG
His agent is a used car salesman?
I get that everybody is pissed off at the agent and accusing him of not having DM’s best interests in mind……but isn’t he doing exactly what he’s supposed to be doing? Finding new and more lucrative opportunities for his client?
And even if the NCAA starts to require agents get certified, how is that going to stop them from finding new and more lucrative opportunities for their clients? It’s what they do.
This isn’t professional sports, where an athlete is tied to a multi-year contract, these guys are all on 1 year deals and become free agents again. Heck, these are quarterly deals if you really think about it. The only thing holding them to a team for a full quarter is they can’t play for more than 1 team in a football season. So from September to December you’re on 1 team, and then you bounce around freely.
It can go no other way given the federal anti-trust laws and the fact that these players aren’t employees or contractors. They’re college students with untraceable endorsement deals.
Pretty soon, I bet they’re going to drop academic requirements all together, because they limit opportunities.
I believe academic requirements have been held up by the courts. May be wrong on this, but I thought there was a case involving HS athletes.
And is this kind of “management” really what someone who has his best interests in mind?
This is pretty much a shit show.
I’m of the opinion to go all in on Baseball and call it good. Realize that football is the cash cow but there’s 0 chance to compete with NIL if we throw a bag of $500k and it’s still not enough to keep someone. We’d be better served to embrace a single sport to better utilize the NIL money vs trying to spread it around. Too bad baseball isn’t a money maker to the extent that even men’s basketball is but I do think that baseball has the best chance to stay elite and be in the conversation thru the realignment and beyond. It also provides the best chance at alumni bringing financial support with more guys being drafted and legit talent that will/should get some big contracts in the future.
Baseball guys are gonna hit the portal after the seasons ends, I bet. This is the way now.
Uh oh. Someone asked about what DM was making and those payments worked. Apparently dame nation wasn’t paying according to DM.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/04/oregon-states-damien-martinez-claims-nil-collective-lied-dam-nation-says-it-has-1000-percent-delivered-on-commitments.html?outputType=amp
That is false. Kyle has always said the players get paid after they have fulfilled their commitments to the collective. He was paid for Q1 2024. This is the way it is suppose to work. You can’t just chuck a guy a bag and pray he stays. Thats not good business. Fuk Dam and his slimy agent.
DM is coming off a little unhinged. Kyle is a straight shooter. Is he giving his March payment back to the collective? Major college athletics is fucked up. It’s time for OSU to sue ESPN and Fox! They haven’t lost a lawsuit yet.
I figured DM is full of shit about this. I’m sure everything is in a contract payment wise. I’m wondering if DM is just deflecting from his previous bulshit “all in” talk or did his agent give him misleading information about said contract.
Who wants to track down tax records if any houses come up for sale in Corvallis?
I don’t think he owns a house I think the article is saying there were discussions about a house. I think he lives in a rental in the Skyline West neighborhood. Has a built Challenger and Ram if it is the house I am thinking of.
From the article:
“I want everyone to know that they did not buy me a house. I did. They did not buy me the car. I DID. They did not give me $400K. I didn’t receive even 100K of the 400K.
Maybe the prosecutor should take another look at the DUI.
He got paid for Q1 = 100K
Before taxes.
Well that makes sense. He doesn’t know what taxes are. It’s like every reaction video of some kids first paycheck and the total look of defeat at what they really make.
I was happy with my first check from a real job. And that was at 3.35 an hour.
Pretty sure he is renting
I don’t get it.
The title says Dam Nation didn’t pay what was contracted, but he’s defending himself (?) against some claims that the collective did not cover, as the collective says?
Someone needs to fill me in on him actually saying Kyle didn’t pay him exactly as his contract states–a contract he can show everyone, to prove his point.
It’s Daschel being a moron click-baiter. When he’s saying “they lied” in his text to Daschel, he’s referring to the people on social-media claiming he got a car, 400k, and a house from Dam Nation. He didn’t, he’s right about that. Daschel is attributing the “they lied” meaning Dan Nation and that’s not who DM meant, and Daschel knows that.
DM got a car via an NIL with a local dealership in 2021. He wanted another new car after that and he and Dan Nation talked about it, but they didn’t make any kind of new deal for a newer car or house. From what I’ve been told DM leased a house (not purchased) and a newer new car this year with money he earned from NIL in 2021-2023.
He reached a deal for 400k for 2024 and was paid his first quarterly payment in early March, he may have to give that back now that he is transferring.
Heard from a couple people (one an OSU athletic dept employee) that Dame has some off-field personal issues to attend to that have also made cashing in on his NIL value more prudent in the short-term.
Fwiw. Smh.
Good point about the “They lied” comment. It’s not clear who he was talking about there and Daschel not only didn’t clarify, he put it in the headline as being clearly directed at the NIL. (I realize writers don’t write the headlines but he could sure as shit have them change it)
Good point about the “They lied” comment. It’s not clear who he was talking about there and Daschel not only didn’t clarify, he put it in the headline as being clearly directed at the NIL. (I realize writers don’t write the headlines but he could sure as shit have them change it)
He could have written this headline.
Kyle speaking in a defensive tone means he thought the comment was directed at the collective, not social media, and he was asking questions referring to such.
But the text Martinez sent reads like he’s in a Twitter argument, not talking about anything the collective did.
How does daschel get an accusation against the collective out of it? He appears to have stepped in it.
They bought him a house. WTF. I didn’t realize NIL was that out of control.
Go read Eggers article. Great FACTS about the collective.
Man, really hoping the beavs destroy the ducks later this month. I don’t know why, but it just seems like a sweeter win this year. Specially, if we crush him:-)
Rev posted the agent twitter above. Scroll it a bit and you find Jayden Grant, Anthony Gould and Alex Austin all being hyped by this clown. He lives in Florida perhaps and somehow has a presence in Corvallis with several Beavs
New world, new lessons being learned. Putting so much money on one player is a huge risk, no matter who it is. I also think DAM nation will get less and less funds. There’s no return on investment. It won’t buy a title. I will not donate again.
But don’t worry, every school is going to go through this over and over again and they’ll keep throwing money at the problem and never learn. Beavs will need to switch to a strictly pay for play model. Similar to NFL bonuses, performance for on field results and retention should be strictly tied to payouts. All conference honors gets x dollars, playing x% of total snaps gets a bonus, each win gets each player a bonus, being on the roster and the end of the year bonus with multipliers for each consecutive year, etc.
A golf example, and I don’t watch golf:
“Keep that in mind as we consider defending Masters champion Jon Rahm. Back in 2022, as golf’s civil war was exploding, Rahm was quite adamant that he had absolutely no interest in joining LIV.
“Money is great, but when (his wife) Kelley and I started talking about it, and we’re like, Will our lifestyle change if I got $400 million? No, it will not change one bit,” Rahm said.
“Truth be told, I could retire right now with what I’ve made and live a very happy life and not play golf again. So I’ve never really played the game of golf for monetary reasons. I play for the love of the game, and I want to play against the best in the world. I’ve always been interested in history and legacy, and right now the PGA Tour has that.”
In December 2023, he left the PGA Tour for LIV.”
I haven’t watched golf in years and don’t even know who Jon Rahm is.
That was a little different. He was committed to sticking with the PGA until they went behind all the player’s backs and struck a deal with the Saudis. I don’t blame him one bit for cutting out the middleman and getting his money. It just shows how greedy these professional leagues are; it’s pretty shady on the PGA’s part.
Does anyone care OJ is dead? So far I can’t find a single person in my circle who is anything but neutral at best. Most are happy he’s dead. That’s a Nuc-like legacy!
I’m waiting till the trial to see if cancer really did it or not, heard it was out of the country when it happened.
You seem to spout often about Nuc.
Well I get my first colony on the 20th.
Best nap you’ll ever have. Waking up from a colonoscopy is the most relaxed I’ve felt in a long time.
Not sure if it was the drugs, or getting reamed by a hose?
Just got mine a month ago. The nap and a large burger/fries after fasting the best I’ve had in a long time!!!
FWIW: I never believe the people spouting the loudest about shit, no matter what it is. Martinez going off nonstop how he loved the Beavs was actually a sign to me that something was wrong. It’s like the boyfriend who keeps buying his lady roses. Yeah, because he is guilty about something. It’s everything. Elon Musk spouting off about free speech and then banning everyone, Republicans going off about pedos and it turns out 75% of convicted politician pedos are Republicans, Woke people saying they care about racism then overtly hate whites, etc. I trust people who say nothing or have no clear opinion a lot more. Lol.
Anyone else biting their tongue here?
You can say what’s on your mind. Unlike Elon Musk, I let people talk so long as they aren’t pedos (rev) or anarchists who threaten to take down my site (nuc).
Still holding a grudge against me over our Luton disagreement? I thought after him being on an NFL roster for 4 years you’d be over it.
Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell were on NFL rosters for 4 years. What is your point? That NFL teams make mistakes and sometimes for long periods of time? Yes, I agree.
E.g. the vote of confidence before someone is fired
Definitely. If you assume big mouths are doing the opposite you’ll probably be right much more often.
Nobody is talking about it, but it’s not a great look that our collective is run by a single guy who handles everything by himself, with supposedly no administrative fees to cover him for his efforts.
You mean to tell me there’s this multi-million dollar pool of money sitting out there, where the check/balance system is 1 person? Who is doing all of this work voluntarily?
That’s another huge reason I would never donate to a collective.
And he may be doing everything on the up and up, but that’s no way to run an organization and it’s just begging for fraudulent activity.
Our elementary school PTA has more structure than this NIL, and their funding is a drop in the bucket compared to the Dam Nation collective.
Not everyone is out for a payday. A lot of non profits pay a pretty decent chunk of donations to administrative staff. We don’t the best of collectives as far as donations go. I’d be more worried if he hired 4 or 5 of his buddies to do administrative work at $40,000 a year then trying to do it by himself.
He hasn’t turned it over to an ‘agent’ tho.
Eggers talks about it:
https://www.kerryeggers.com/stories/those-bronze-statues-on-second-thought
Canzano set the record straight.
DM wanted to improve his draft stock and moved on. He confirms Dam Nation NIL was on the up and up and honored its commitments.
While not addressed in the article is sure seem like the “they lied” text to the O was referring to people/fans on social media.
I agree with the takes above about not donating to collectives. I always thought the idea seemed bizarre. Fans pay for tickets, merchandise, parking and are now expected to pay the players too??! Eventually players will be allowed to enter into contracts with schools and that problem will go away.
Per Clownzano
““They did not buy me a house or a car,” Martinez told me on Thursday. “I had two cars. The first one I bought and then traded up for my second car. They never gave me anything. The only thing they gave me was the money that I earned… I used that money to get my cars and (rental) house.”
The NIL deals at Oregon State are settled quarterly, not annually, to protect the school from athletes accepting deals and jilting the school by hopping into the transfer portal. Martinez was set to earn $400,000 a year under the agreement he struck after last season. It would be paid in installments of $100,000 per quarter.
Martinez told another media outlet this week that he didn’t receive the full $100,000. There’s a reason for that. But that detail caused a storm of debate and raised questions about the ethics of the school’s NIL collective. It put Martinez under the microscope and insinuated that the Dam Nation Collective didn’t deliver on a promise. That ignited a fire in Bjornstad’s world.
“I don’t want it to get ugly,” Bjornstad told me, “but this is built on Oregon State values — we do right by people.”
Martinez received a $92,000 payment before the close of business on March 19 of this year. And “that’s not a problem,” the running back told me on Thursday.
The shortage comes with a back story. Kiefer Nissan informed OSU’s NIL collective earlier this year that Martinez still owed $8,000 on the down payment of the Charger. Dam Nation Collective agreed to send a check to the dealership in March to cover the balance.
I asked Martinez to confirm that the $8,000 shortage was due to the payment made directly to Kiefer. He said: “Somewhere around there, but that was not a problem at all.”
So insane that SMU got the death penalty for these exact strategies only they were 40 years too soon and didn’t have “permission” from the right people to do it- such as the more refined leaders from SEC/ESPN types who have pushed us to this point by way of sports talk radio and public opinion.
SMU beat the bluebloods at their own game too easily so they got destroyed as a lesson to all others not
To rock the boat so boldly.
The greatest irony would be Huang suddenly seeing the present situation as a challenge to conquer and he steps into the Uncle Phil role for OSU with billions and funds all rosters at exorbitant levels like SMU of old to the extent that OSU all of a sudden is the big threat to these Neanderthal execs at SEC and ESPN/Fox.
Beavs just simply buy the better talent and actually win championships at several sports and in the process mock Oregon and every other school who has attempted to do the same.
Maybe having a sugar daddy owner for your college team isn’t ideal but perhaps we can actually accomplish something with one instead of wasting 2 decades of cash like Oregon has done.
Do they have any national championships other than track and field?
or have a sugar daddy who loves football Jerry Jones and a sugar daddy who loves basketball john tyson
i know u guys hate the SEC and its very understandable root for Arkansas because the sec offices hates Arkansas
always gets the 11 am game in football
but yeah without frank broyles they are in the same place u guys are in
heh heh… Booby and the Hog
Martinez (and other athletes) are going to have a rude awakening when tax time arrives and the IRS starts asking for receipts.
That $8,000 that was re-routed to the car dealer to cover a short payment is taxable earnings.
And something tells me these guys aren’t being careful and sticking 25-30% of their earnings away in a separate account to cover their tax bill.
Sortof like giving a Ferrari to a 16 year old. Some may actually be mature enough to handle it, but most won’t be. Life lessons will be learned
Only a wealthy child would be given a Ferrari, because no insurance company is going to insure a 16 year-old in one.
Or a 16 year old with a 5* ranking. Wonder how often the 247s and Rivals of the world get hit up to bump rankings now that NIL is in play?
OSU might be smart to track draft stock of players before and after they leave OSU.
Thinking about guys like Omar Speights. What was his predicted draft stock going into the 2023 season?
And what is it now after playing a pretty sub-par year at LSU?
I don’t know the numbers, but I have a feeling he didn’t improve his position.
This is just funny.
I wonder what his agent’s take is. Surely it’s still a percentage of the whole.
Hunter and Pietsch in portal now…
Beers next?
Unreal, May 1st can’t come soon enough. Might as well face the music, beers is probably gone.
KOIN reporter:
“Trent Bray said at practice today that Damien Martinez informed him of his decision to leave Monday night.
Bray said he tried to change Martinez’s mind but that he was “locked set” on his decision.
As for what caused Martinez’s sudden change of mind, Bray said “that’s between him and me.”
Classy move by Bray. Many other coaches would take the opportunity to complain.
Hunter leaving sucks, weird Peitch would leave when she might actually see the floor now, she certainly isn’t getting an NIL money
Lilly Hansford in the portal now too.
Is there another team that has lost their entire roster similar to OSU?
Watch Rueck and all of the players transfer as a group to another school and then win a championship there next year.
It is so sad to watch. I’ve played on decent teams with no camaraderie or trust among the team and had decent results but never a team that had a great bond of purpose and trust leading to great results. By all accounts there was something special about this team that was different than many teams/athletes ever get to experience. Even Scott mentioned it at the elite 8 presser. I thought these gals were in a unique situation of tight trust, great camaraderie and another year to go after the championship together and they are just flushing all of it in less than a week. And of course, Beaver nation gets a front row seat to the madness of it all.
Can it really be about better exposure for women’s basketball? Or even NIL? What is going on behind the scenes that 6 are already out the door with 2-3 more to follow? Who is talking to these girls and what is the rationale at this point? So crazy. I almost hate to consider there will be some sort of scandal surfacing as the cover story to explain why all of these competitive gals decided to jump ship.
Have you ever seen a WCC women’s basketball game on TV, outside of the tournament?
Yes Gonzaga played several games on espn.
They made the Sweet 16, after pumping Utah.
It’s funny you mention that, because some people were proposing we become the Gonzaga of wbb, but Gonzaga already is the Gonzaga of wbb.
Makes me think some people don’t pay attention.
And then they wouldn’t be if Rueck could have kept this team together.
Who is left?
Beers
Heidi
Rees
Marrote
Paurova
Shuler
Getting thin. LOL Will the incoming players change their minds? Are we back to walk ons from volleyball and Dixon try outs?
Anyone else feel like they are just hanging on because of baseball? If we see a similar mass exodus after the season, it feels like that would be the final death blow. Although years and decades led to the dismantling of OSU athletics it’s been hard to watch it all actually happen over the school calendar year.
How long until this forum is transitioned from Angry Beavs to Angry Bees? Hearing about the impending arrival of his bee colony is more uplifting than anything Oregon State related of late.
Well hopefully, “HappyBees.”
I’m expecting similar results after the baseball season ends.
Sure, they have a slightly different path being independent, but the path to a championship was still there next year for all sports, not just baseball.
It seems to be more about (perceived) television exposure and money.
Until OSU finds a solution to both of those, we’ll be a farm team for programs in bigger markets or with deeper pockets.
I’m guessing that all of the athletes are calling BS on anything the Barnes has been saying all year. He has been bluffing or simply not listening to what the athletes are most concerned about and it will be a major blunder by the time it is over.
Barnes couldn’t convince JS of the plan, and now we are certain he hasn’t convinced anyone in the basketball programs of his plans either. Baseball is next and I’m preparing for impact when June comes around.
Lol what’s Barnes supposed to do to convince 20 to kids to stay? They have 100s of people in their ears daily but Barnes is supposed to be out hustling these hustlers with each sa? I guess their coaches just sit back and watch Netflix all day. GTFO
Lol nice. Is Barnes your dad? C’mon bro we are all watching it burn to the ground and Barnes has been on the inside of it all with the most information of anyone. Well he has been playing poker and the athletes all are calling his bluff. He apparently doesn’t hold the cards to convince anyone to stick around. If Chun was also as informed as Barnes and he decided to jump ship, what does Barnes actually have?
Angry called it in August of course but it was a tough pill to swallow then and it is worse watching it all happen in real time now.
Of course I want to see OSU rise from the ashes and bounce back from this debacle but the more athletes that leave, the less likely any of it matters for the next 5 years. Can every major sport be in rebuild mode and actually compete? I think it is a bad situation getting worse by the day.
Perhaps Barnes is the noble hero of our story, yet he is also powerless to do much about any of these events. I can acknowledge that is very possible, including helping to keep 18-22 year olds on current rosters throughout the athletic program.
Congratulations on offering an even dumber take than normal
Relax Julius. I’m just posting my thoughts, not challenging your superiority. We agree that the agents are the issue, and the system is broken. I just wanted to point out that Barnes does have a primary role in the athletic department and should have some influence with the present and future athletes within that department. I guess I am off base for such an opinion?
Bob de Carolis and Ed Ray killed OSU athletics. Barnes is just the scapegoat.
Outside of the Tinkle ordeal he’s been a really good AD.
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Nice find. Thanks for sharing. I like this site for researching historical D-1 college football scores https://www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/byname.htm
The bottom line must be that the WBB players really, really don’t want to play in the WCC, even though it would be their easiest path to championships. If TVO ends up at UConn or South Carolina or USC then I get that one. I don’t know if we will ever know, but I would love to hear how these conversations with Rueck have gone. Maybe, he’s such a confident coach, he’s just saying fuck it and he’ll build a mid-major powerhouse. He couldn’t have come into a worse situation than OSU when he started. For these players leaving, it’s certainly not about winning.
Right? Like what top 10 team is throwing mad NIL money at Pietch?
I think Angry may be on to something, expect the opposite when these players bullshit about team love and winning. It’s code for “I’m entering the portal as soon as I can”.
Beers in the portal, let’s put a for sale sign in front of Gill
Is Bazanna next as a midseason transfer? Good grief Charlie Brown!
Beers father is a veteran cop, you’d think he’d mute the influence of any agent. Still, he’s the dad of a rising star….could impact his input. I’m ready to believe the WCC/exposure thing is the answer for WBB at least.
I’m not reading any of the departure crap – is it the same nonsense or is anyone being honest?
The respect she got on that completely bullshit one-for-the-ages foul call against her that defied even hockey rules might be enough to push him into the money. But money is money and money money.
So money.
Perhaps Rueck will decide he’s had enough of this, leaves coaching and becomes a real estate agent.
mbb : Field of 68’s Jeff Goodman has the tale of the tape regarding the number of portal entrants, which is now well over 1,000″There have been 1,425 D-1 men’s basketball players enter the portal in the 23 days since it opened (this number includes walk-ons). There are 22 days left for non-graduates to enter the portal. My guess is the total will wind up being right around 2,000 scholarship players,” Goodman tweeted Wednesday morning.
Essentially 200 teams?
cha ching, baby
Report on why Donyvan Hunter left:
“I’m told by a trusted source, Donovyn Hunter’s decision to leave Oregon State boiled down to having to enter the WCC and the uncertainty of what it would look like. ”
https://twitter.com/CamDerbyTV/status/1778573400413516285?t=_UwnWaj_gnnBBraLXUaM0A&s=19
Pac2 went the WCC route because it cost quite a but less than the MW route. And who knows, MW could have led to the same outcome and then we would be screwed financially and roster wise. I guess at least we saved a few bucks?
I’m betting Colorado coach Payne will pick up one of the quislings.
Uncertainty of what it would look like? It would have looked like a fucking championship if they had stayed together! I was hoping Barnes could get Rueck a solid non-conference schedule, but now I’m not so sure.
bullshit
Just to take your mind off the women’s team imploding.
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1777918773728850282?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1777918773728850282%7Ctwgr%5E3a7268439984427ce23f37511ec61138c52e5386%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fnba%2F2024%2F04%2F10%2Fwill-ferrell-cool-moment-warriors-gary-payton-lakers
In a normal PAC12 season, if Scott Rueck was outed as a serial rapist… fewer girls would have entered the transfer portal.
So the AD and university prioritized student-athlete wellbeing by choosing the WCC and all the student-athletes leave. Hmm…
MBB is understandable though I think some delusion regarding talent is involved as in everyone except Pope and maybe Bilodeau are better suited to the WCC anyway. Something just seems off with WBB, even a week ago I think Daschel was reporting six possible transfers. Obviously, coaching and winning don’t seem to matter, but I don’t see a huge upside with the women jumping ship. Make your run next year and then leave if it doesn’t meet your expectations.
Completely different narrative.
Tinkle’s teams are going nowhere. The wbb team could have won it all next year, if they stayed together, as they supposedly pretended to be this year.
They weren’t.
But I can’t blame them for being distracted.
I think my comment pointed out the two different narratives. Neither of them was good, but one had positive potential, the other is probably going to be a shit show even in the WCC.
it’s a shit storm, it’s probably going to get worse before it gets better, really sucks .I’m just going to enjoy baseball
If you are honestly surprised at all sports falling apart you are blind.
Find any good reason an athlete would want to come to OSU?
They will no longer be P5 in any sport if you even think baseball will be you are just kidding yourself. Football gutted from coach on down, MBB was gutted before it even started, WBB is being gutted after solid run if they wouldn’t have had that run there wouldn’t be anything to gut as there was nothing to start.
Baseball independents are even more at risk. Their recruiting has gone downhill. This year they will be gutted. Travis, Micah, Elijah, Mason, Tanner, Joey,Jaren. AJ, Kyle, Bridger, Jacob are all gone. This doesn’t even include portal players. Who wants to stay or come to OSU when you don’t even see the schedule till December!?!?
Probably decent games in 24-25 but after that it will keep falling as the talent coming is going to be very low. Look at what they have committed the next 2 years.
Sorry for speaking the truth but there really isn’t a light at the end of tunnel.
Hold on there! Maybe for you there isn’t any light…my fellow alums, friends and family express we will continue to go to games and support the Beavs REGARDLESS of what happens….
You might as well quit now, pack-up your keyboard and stop with the “end of the world is nigh” bullshit….save yourself some precious minutes!
Looking at that list oob made, I find myself realizing #1 is the one thing I’m holding on to and the only reason I haven’t walked away for good. Because it’s a good question… why even care anymore?
I renewed my season tickets just a few days before this Martinez news. I remember thinking to myself in December when we were in the midst of our football program blowing up, that the only reason I would renew my tix for next season was for the players and coaches who decided to stick it out and remain at Oregon State. Damien Martinez certainly lead the charge in that regard.
I believed what he said about his loyalty to Oregon State, foolishly perhaps. He seemed untouchable to me. As he leaves, so does any small hope I have that college sports as we know it ever returns to normal. Oh sure, it might to some degree. But not for us, not for Oregon State.
At some point the question “why even care anymore?” will simply become too big to justify spending time and money investing in Oregon State athletics. Some of you are already there. I never would have thought I would be. But it’s coming very soon.
Whatever.
He’ll be the fourth best RB at OSU in this decade.
Get over your Duck mentality. It wants you to give up.
I went back and watched OSU @ USC 2021 highlights, had forgotten how fun it was to watch BJ Baylor et al…Jefferson before him.
We get frustrated w/DM transferring out, but OSU has a CU RB that transferred in, Jam who was out and back, but we’re ok with these?
Also have Isiah Newell and an underrated FR RB on the roster who was an actual recruit(!).
DM was productive and fun to watch. I wish he had started his entire FR year. He gaveth now he taketh away…but his production will be replaced if the OLine is good+.
Not even sure what a “Duck mentality” is. I just said despite it all I bought season tickets and don’t plan on stopping. I just see a future where it’s simply not worth it anymore to spend my money and my Saturdays supporting the program.
It’s not about losing him as a player, it’s about all that he said for months and then that he still left in the end. JS leaving didn’t hurt like this because he never publicly pledged his commitment and loyalty to Oregon State, at least not how DM did in December.
Yeah… now that I’ve seen this drama play out , I’m not feeling any hurt.
And I wasn’t too concerned about the position, before that.
Do the players who’ve deserted get to complete the academic year and classes at OSU? Is their scholarship immediately relinquished and are they on their own dime now?
Once they are in the portal, they are off scholarship. Not sure if they can finish out the current quarter on scholarship.
You’re talking about coursework like it is important. At the rate they are all jumping into the portal, classes and course credits and graduation all seem to be the last thing they are worried about.
This leads to another question of mine; not all academic classes transfer easily (or at all) like hopping into the transfer portal.
A majority of these schools do not have the systems in place to accommodate the amount of churn this will cause.
People who hop around a lot are also going to discover their coursework won’t necessarily follow them with ease from one institution to the next either.
Beavs need to back out of the Oregon game after this year. There’s no point in playing it.
Giving the B1G a loss is a good enough reason.
We’ll do that with Purdue. Not sure about Hole.
I suppose all of this makes some sense when you figure that all of the players on this year’s Beaver teams weren’t recruited under the current pretenses. When the coaches convinced them to come to Corvallis, the Pac12 wasn’t gutted, the schedules weren’t full of MW or WCC opponents. So now that the fall and winter teams have wrapped up their seasons, it makes sense that these kids look at the situation and say this isn’t what I signed up for, I’ll look elsewhere. I expect it to continue after the spring season ends.
I guess the way I’ll deal with it is to simply wait and see who’s around come fall. I’ll root for those players (and coaches) and expect them to be more “loyal” because they knew what the ’24-’25 season was going to look like and they STILL chose to be a Beaver.
Are Rueck or Tinkle making any statements? Barnes has seemingly done a walk-about?
In hindsight it seems like Rueck’s postgame presser statements were aimed at the media because the team didn’t get any “exposure “ through such a magical season. His demeanor during that 3 minutes was more combative towards the national media. Perhaps that was the only direction Rueck could vent his frustrations after the way that game was officiated.
But I wonder if the team had already had the conversation about who was going to leave and Rueck was frustrated by more than just one game but the fallout of a season’s worth of similar games and the final blow.
wouldn’t blame Beers for leaving just based on her safety alone. It became obvious she was physically in danger each game she played for OSU. It will be obvious once she lands at UCONN how different the games will be called in her favor. The rest likely realized even if they stay together, they still have no shot to win it all due to the referees anyway. I’m guessing it is more due to the way the calls went all year that accumulated to the departures. I just wish they would voice it as they leave.
It took forever for the team to get ranked and then they were chronically ranked too low.
Remember this? https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-oregon-state-americas-team
They must have already known -especially Talia –
It’s sad because none of this is on Rueck. He fostered a family atmosphere at OSU that brought in girls who seemingly were high production and low ego. Yet here we are where NIL and a shitty realignment deal have gutted a team that had a ligit chance of making the final four or beyond. The old saying of there’s no I in team is over for college sports because there’s an I in NIL.
Maybe the wcc path for basketball was the wrong way to go but I don’t see it as any better then a MW schedule as far as the women’s team is concerned.
The only thing that really concerns me is if Ruecks is going to leave and that’s partially the reason there’s an exit like this.
Wow, another transfer, this one hurts
https://twitter.com/scoduckz/status/1778790971553333496
Why repost a duck Twitter account? Fuck those idiots.
Because we are all at a different stage of grief:
denial.
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.
It’s always bothered me that anger is on this list without context. While it is a normal human emotion, in this case it’s tied to being angry about the denial part, not simply being angry.
It’s okay to be angry at others who are still bargaining (please respect my decision) or in denial (can’t get exposure at OSU baloney) themselves.
We’ve had so much publicity as a school, this is. major news nationwide. Other schools are going through the same thing, but we’re the big story.
If you can’t take that opportunity and make people take notice of you here, like DM did with the loyalty shtick, you’re not trying.
How does this work when you are trapped in a burning house?
Kubler-Ross is in the portal too.
I didn’t even notice that. It is funny regardless though
That is funny, but exactly the kind of gallows humor we are left with at this point.
Laughing as they jumped ship for half the money other B10 teams get. Brought along so UW could have a B10 rival, and USC, UCLA, UW, UO could play SOME games out west and save some travel costs and hopefully appeal to SoCal tv market…oh, and Nike.
I’m disappointed about what is happening at OSU with the state of college sports causing kaos via NIL and portal. There is a lot of talk about loyalty and the lack there of over the last year or more. And I get why one would ask why even care anymore. But I would like to point out that OSU has always been and is even more so now the underdog in this fight and that alone sparks my interest to watch. Plus, I would venture to say when if comes to loyalty Bray is at the top of the list and therefore I will watch and root for him to succeed against all the odds. In this college sports landscape OSU’s hope is not in the players who get changed out like daily underwear but in the coaching. If we can get consist loyal good coaching that will be worth the watch. Which is why OSU men’s basketball is dead to me lol.
On a positive note, I think I read a few weeks ago Portland overturned that horrible opioid experiment? At least Oregon State (i.e. the State of Oregon!) has that going for it.
The change in measure 110 means little to nothing. Until the constant flow of drugs and criminals accross the southern border is stopped the issue will not change. About 90 people die in Oregon every month from a drug over dose. It’s a damn tragedy.
I’m told there is no border crisis.
It has very little to do with the border and more to do with the Sackler family getting rich off an unsuspecting public who has been programmed to consume.
Spot on.
Are you fucking nuts?
Didn’t Republicans just vote against a border bill so Trump could run on the border issues?
Republicans do nothing. Democrats do nothing. Water is wet and the truth is usually in the middle.
Except it was an actual bill that you can go and read.
????
What does that mean? Democrats made a Bill that was by all reports very reasonable and even Republicans wanted to for yes on; Republicans voted against it because Trump told them to so he could run on anti-immigration. The Bill is available online, and the votes were counted with (R) voting against it. How is that nothing?
Case in point, the bill didn’t pass. Nothing happened. Welcome to politics. It’s all about power and party wins rather than.. you know doing your duties. This happens on both sides of the aisle.
Case in point, indeed.
It’s too bad we don’t have a medium which records anything? Especially in congress?
?????
It didn’t pass because “reps” are scared of upsetting the boss. God forbid if a bill most were willing to vote yes on and move the needle. The majority this Congress (looking at you R’s) have literally done nothing. Here’s today’s voting agenda…
Hands off our Home Appliances Act
Stop Unaffordable Dishwashers Standards Act
That’s the leadership I need.
I can go on…does anyone on this forum believe Democrats kill babies after birth? If so, you need a serious reality check. My reply is ready when some of you protest.
Sounds like you need a course in Civics. Start with a thorough reading of the Constitution, especially the part that delineates the powers of the federal government.
Democrats do all kinds of stuff. Just because you refuse to give them credit doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen
Yes
Uhhh, nice try. You may want to read the bill. Sounds like you were sold a bill of goods.
Jokingly (perhaps), could wbb and mbb give notice that since neither program has any players left, they will not be able to field teams and, thus, will not participate in their respective sports this coming season.
in the sport this coming season?
Per Marco Brewer tweet:
”
Marco Isaiah Brewer
@marcobrewer_
They lied to me and multiple teammates. Very late on pay, and a list of other things.”
Hmmm
If multiple teammates–or just a different one–says so, I’ll listen.
Guy battling legal trouble is mad about money after hetting kicked off the team.
Sorry, but 2 sexual assault cases over 6 years doesn’t earn any sympathy.
that guy shouldn’t say anything with his past,
Football lost out on that JUCO TE, who was all but officially committed to OSU, to…..Colorado State.
https://twitter.com/JaxxonWarren/status/1778831461526704484?t=9ccrjGc9GJGOEY6dQk8Erw&s=19
Jen-Hsun Huang will be speaking at OSU today around 1:00PM.
Live stream is here.
I don’t expect anything athletics-wise will be mentioned, but still am curious to hear what he has to say. He’s an Aloha high school (west of Portland) alum as well, for those who didnt know.
live.oregonstate.edu
Surely
Murthy and Barnes have spoken with him?
Hopefully it’s towards a project that quadruples our endowment
So the endowment goes from $1 billion to $4 billion and athletics will still be a dumpster fire? I still wonder why the athletic element isn’t considered a vital part of the student life experience and taken more seriously by academics in administrative roles.
Let’s see if Huang will simply underwrite a $500 million donation to the athletic fund as a start for:
1)a west coast esports arena venue and
2) supplementing the current athletic budget, and
3) help to replace Tinkle
then go from there with whatever is left as part of a focused NIL strategy and coaches salaries…
If OSU had very large data centers it charged private companies a fee to use then it has a stable source of income, and they can use part of those profits for the AD.
A one time donation and relying on TV contracts does no good at this point.
I delete the AB twitter account b/c of Elon being insufferable. I don’t want to support him. What do you think?
I think Elon makes a lot of good points. Don’t necessarily get all the hate, but if that’s what you think about him and his platform, do whatever you think is right.
Elon is doing the exact thing he claims he bought Twitter to prevent. Amazing how many people believe Elon is some free speech warrior.
He’s a crazy person seeking attention and getting it from the Christian Nationalists so now he’s spouting their nonsense.
In hindsight, maybe without hindsight even OSU pushing the loyalty ad campaign was dumb. Just have people say they like it here, feel taken care of, have good perks, etc. preaching loyalty just feels like a company that underpays their employees saying how the company is like a family.
Spot on Ean, I worked for a long time for a company that pushed the “family and loyalty “ garbage until it was time to reorganize or they need a fall guy. Then they showed their true colors, and cut people loose like taking the trash out.
It’s what we do.
It’s like running an ad campaign claiming we have the best college town west of the Mississippi because of one publication’s arbitrary ranking a few years back, and keeping that ad campaign running for years after that same publication has put out their new annual lists without OSU on top.
Or putting a giant banner on top of the Valley Football Center that says “Opening Fall 2016” and keeping it there into the end of 2017.
To show how crazy people have become: I witnessed a robbery at Walmart. The manager chased down the robber on the trail I was walking down adjacent to the store. Catches up with him, gets the merch back, and walks by me. I just shake my head. The guy is a big, fat MAGA type. He says, “Blame Biden!”…okay, Biden is to blame for this dude having shitty parents who told him theft is okay? Sure. But that’s how insane people are now…
Could be inflation on groceries is edging towards 50% the economy is under Biden. People can’t afford groceries so they resort to stealing
Or it could be that Colorado is a cite and release state that punishes theft with a fine. Cite and release is a Democrat policy and Biden is the face of the democrat party.
And what’s a MAGA type?
The type who blames Biden for supply line issues that were noted by Buffett to Congress, yet they decided to slam a trillion dollars of offshore profits into a supply-side economy about to run into scarcity issues.
And then I seem to remember something about a pandemic.
My favorites are the ones who don’t know that Biden is to the right of Reagan, economically and on most social issues, yet love the Gipper.
@jack, people who study Econ point out inflation has at the minimum a 1 year lag, so this inflation began under trump (this makes sense since trump did the rent moratorium, stimulus, begged Powell for 0 interest rates as supply chains got killed, spent the most of any 1 term president, etc). Biden did make it worse via student loan forgiveness and more stimulus, etc. It’s really on both of them + the (republican lead) Fed. It’s also squarely in individuals for their behavior. I don’t think “I stole because of inflation” would hold up in any court. So ridiculous.
I also don’t really blame anyone since we had a pandemic, and it’s better to overstimulate than under in that situation. I personally think housing demographics support a long bull market and a lot of the inflation is coming from that. 3% will probably be the new norm due to housing.
Inflation is now and was always a lagging indicator.
But it was widely known in early 2018 that repatriating offshore profits in 2018, under TCJA, was taking money that would otherwise be used to sustain efficient supply lines and redirecting it to repatriation, and eventually stock buybacks, causing already known disruptions.
So we get the combination of more money than has ever been slammed into the economy about to hit along with supply line issues and an external event that exacerbates all of it, and what are we supposed to think is going to happen?
It’s why you don’t make poor fiscal policy in the first place. Shit happens, and it will make your bad policies look ten times worse.
But if you blame “them” and wave your hands, people who don’t have a clue about logistics or the M2 will go all Stepford for you, regardless.
I forgot the trifecta part of the perfect storm–cajoling the Fed for zero rates, until the dufus got them.
I should have also added there are knock-on effects for other countries, when all that cash is sucked out of their economies, making the US one of the most ideal places for foreign nationals to stow their wealth, adding more money to the mix, but not in the form of jobs, rather in things like real estate and equities.
Hey…just stop. Blame Biden.. how about the guy was a petty thief? Maybe when Walmart boy has 91 indictments we will talk.
He wasn’t stealing groceries it was some long type of box. It’s possible he was homeless or something and it was a tent. I couldn’t tell. Young guy. Anyway, the blame clearly goes on the thief himself and his shitty parents. Biden. lol.
Also, the guy ranting about Biden is working at a store with 99% of their goods made in China, so there’s that…
Dude, we get it, you hate America.
Grow the fuck up.
No President is responsible for inflation or theft. Believing they are shows you’re either a…
Grade A retard
Or
Lying
I think you’re a liar but dealers choice.
You have a short memory. Recall ‘all the way back’ to 2020 when Democrats, in the name of ‘peaceful protests,’ ran roughshod to the tune of over 500 riots, >1000 police officers injured and/or killed, more than $2 Billion damage and rationalized theft as ‘feeding their family’ in addition to calling it a form of restitution.
Hey, angry what about the sandalwood candles you promised last year?
https://californiaagnet.com/2024/04/05/edible-blue-green-algae-to-protect-honey-bees-against-viruses/
Sydney Wiese weighs in on the current exodus of WBB. worth a read.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/04/former-oregon-state-star-sydney-wiese-coach-rueck-is-the-best-coach-ive-ever-had-at-every-level.html
Well written, if any players care to read it, it speaks volumes about what a transfer or incoming player can expect, from the coaches, staff and even down to the school and fans. Too bad it doesn’t fit in 140 characters
In maybe reading between the lines, Wiese seems pretty disappointed in this group of players and the disrespect it shows to Rueck. Unfortunately, it’s already a much different era than when Wiese played.
The typically unexpressed indirect and long term benefits she describes are important and lost currently.
Great statement.
It’s interesting, because it’s completely the opposite of what we see with pros, when you have a core team set for greatness for the next couple years.
Players should be wanting to come to OSU, because TVO leaving gives them opportunity to be a part of that. This is where some veteran up for a big payday would take a pay cut to be on that team, to help put them over the top and get the opportunity money can’t buy for you.
Beavs seem to be pretty interested in Cal LB transfer LB Myles Jernigan.
https://twitter.com/Myles6ixJ_/status/1778079215277252806
Paurova in the portal now too. Was holding out hope that she would’ve stayed as I thought she played some of the best ball down the stretch. Oh well. Maybe we can combine men and women’s and make a intramural squad?
Kasper is back in the rotation. Glad to see that. Although, I think Reeder and Macias have done quite well in the absence of Kasper and McDowell.
Macias proves Creek is on to something, homers on the first pitch he sees tonight to make it 3-0 in the b2
LATER: And in the b7,Reeder picks up an RBI
That Macias hr was mashed too. Went over rf stands.
I had forgotten that they’d lost five straight to Tree. Time for the payback!
Is Stanford’s catcher the best pitch framer in college baseball or something? So many low and outside pitches called strikes by this umpire because of it. Has May been getting similar pitches called strikes?
That’s more of the camera angle that fools people watching from outfield camera.
May was getting alot of calls but he truly has one of the best catchers back there.
OSU has a lot of strikeouts from Krieg and Kasper tonight. As team had 2 hit’s off starter. The walks from reliever gave them the win.
Miiiiiitch brings in Weber to ph, results in an RBI triple. 4-0 Beavs b7 continues.
Weber has become a solid threat at the plate the past several games.
Yep, his avg is over .300 now and it was below .100 a few weeks ago. He’s gotten hot to say the least.
Beavs find ways to score runs but they sure do strike out a lot
Long ball fever….
New day, new situation, same Weber…………2 RBI single in the b5 to make it 2-1 Beavs. b5 continues…
Yet OSU still can’t hit a starter.
Sometimes it pays to be lucky.
Hole takes the series against USC to maintain their second place spot in the conference and the tiebreaker with us. We CANNOT let them win the PAC 12 baseball title in its last year!
So what are you going to do about it?
New day, new situation, same Macias……..HR in the 7th to make it 3-1 Beavs
“Let’s consider the reasons folks take an interest in Beaver athletics and college sports in general; is it because:
1-it’s YOUR school, darn it!”
As the sports teams become more and more divorced from the university(ies) and its (their) missions, there’s no incentive to care. Universities become staging grounds for a professional sport, hosting it, making network telecasts viable, and eventually feeding the NFL some players.
I’ll track football with Bray and staff as a unique experiment. But its disappointing to see WBB players exodus when they could have been top 10 next year.
Athletes have less concern for the university, why should we care about the athletes? Good luck, but why attend in person or watch?
Further if players view themselves essentially as employees of “collectives” and will stay/leave based on their relationships with the collectives, and collectives are separate the university…what we have is essentially a new pro league with University facilities providing the infrastructure, and networks, viewer markets, and advertising dollars driving the reorganization of the new league(s)…it short, it has little to do with the school other than the infrastructure and maybe the ability to exploit the former university/student relationship and nostalgia.
I wonder if some day Reser will sit empty, if they’ll try and convert it to soccer? Unfortunately, “finished” right before the end.
When will collectives start seeking their cut? Will they organize, solicit, and pay petulant students forever without taking legal action against the players, or seeking something from the revenue stream?
“Bright Spot” Bridger gets the 2.1 inning save, Beavs 3-1 over Tree.
AJ Marotte ‘going to finish what (she) started’
Beaver tough gal legend
I heard that line before. Hope it sticks and I’ll cheer for her.
So DM’s payout is now going to her?
How many of the girls might makemthemaemdexision and return from the portal once they’ve looked around and considered the situation a bit further? I hope Rueck can save a couple of scholarships in case they change their mind.
Once bitten twice shy though… may be the attitude going forward for Rueck and staff.
Tricky situation to navigate.
lol make the same decision as Marrotte
They’re gone. Not coming back. Time to move on. I think most will regret their decisions.
I just read about a lengthy series of tweets that P-12 announcer Rich Burk did about all the WBB departures. He asked a lot of questions everyone has asked, but he got a lot of shit and pushback about how it was “creepy” he was questioning these young women and he wouldn’t be doing the same thing if it was men. I guess he’s losing his job as soon as the baseball season is over and probably doesn’t care. I think it’s a pretty unique situation and I know if 7 players from a men’s team who were poised to do great things the next season with an elite coach all transferred, I would have the same questions. I don’t find it particularly sexist in this situation, but maybe I’m wrong?
How dare he question sociopathic hypocrites!
“We want more exposure!”
“Cool, let me ask you some questions.”
“No.”
The way he asked them was unprofessional, not the fact that he was asking them. It makes for pretty cringy reading.
I don’t know. I finally tracked them down and read them completely. It seems like he was making the same points that Wiese made, but not in as subtle or eloquent of a way. I don’t know if Wiese got any shit (I think she posted on FB). I don’t know his future employment status, but maybe he’s angry about how the whole P-12 thing went down. Seems like he’s been employed with them for quite a while. The players are adults, the rules say they can do what they want, but it’s still shitty what they did to Rueck and his program. They can take some criticism.
Let’s see what Rueck can get out of the portal and what the recruiting class will look like going forward. I’m sure that’s why we hadn’t heard anything from him recently, he’s on the road trying to get some recruits.
ive read that Rueck never burns any bridge, Destiny came back for a summer camp or something after transferring to the pigs. Maybe some players will come back, but Im not holding my breath.
another good win for baseball, Weber is making a strong case to be moved up in line up.
If wbb hadn’t made such a celebration of their togetherness, especially Talia – ‘grass is green where you water it’ ‘ built not bought’ – Reagan might get a big NIL deal, otherwise the whole thing seems weird. I wonder if Rueck is considering getting out of coaching.
Remember when the portal was new, and Jonathan Smith and Beavers football were inaccurately characterized and being unusually adept at taking advantage of it?
Those weren’t portal transfer those were late transfers we could take because of OSU late start date. Portal eliminated those advantages. We used to take September transfers that wouldn’t have to miss two years because they could enroll in fall term still.
Ahh, thanks for clarifying.
Now they can have 2 transfer opportunities per year, plus another if coaches leave?
We had an ace up our sleeve for about 1 season and the rest of college football said screw that
Well more and more team is really starting to show the holes.
They have no one besides Travis and teams are learning pitch around him if he chases that’s ok but they will walk him. That way they can take their chances with the rest.
Move a defensive liability to 4 spot after 2weak hits and 2groundouts with runners in scoring position.
Finally moved Krieg down but there is reason he wasn’t starting to begin the season 40+ strikeouts.
Kasper going to take awhile to find his swing again and that is if he does.
Dallas solid from left side but not a good choice to have in lineup from the right side. Problem being they have nothing in the bench. Next years players have proven they can’t play good baseball.
Turley is a liability as you don’t know what will happen you odds with him are 75/25 with 25 being the positive.
Hitting overall not good against any starters which is unfortunate because it really shows their holes. The 2 hits Saturday were HR and a weak grounder to SS that showed the weakness of Stanford defense.
Pitching isn’t going to hold up. May Had great outing as the pitching finally expressing their concern with Wilson behind the plate. Kmatz solid again but this is second week with very weak competition. Plus Saturday umpire was more worried about being a babysitter then an ump.
The Bullpen is huge question mark as you never know what you’re going to get.
Well more and more team is really starting to show the holes.
They have no one besides Travis and teams are learning pitch around him if he chases that’s ok but they will walk him. That way they can take their chances with the rest.
Move a defensive liability to 4 spot after 2weak hits and 2groundouts with runners in scoring position.
Finally moved Krieg down but there is reason he wasn’t starting to begin the season 40+ strikeouts.
Kasper going to take awhile to find his swing again and that is if he does.
Dallas solid from left side but not a good choice to have in lineup from the right side. Problem being they have nothing in the bench. Next years players have proven they can’t play good baseball.
Turley is a liability as you don’t know what will happen you odds with him are 75/25 with 25 being the positive.
Hitting overall not good against any starters which is unfortunate because it really shows their holes. The 2 hits Saturday were HR and a weak grounder to SS that showed the weakness of Stanford defense.
Pitching isn’t going to hold up. May Had great outing as the pitching finally expressing their concern with Wilson behind the plate. Kmatz solid again but this is second week with very weak competition. Plus Saturday umpire was more worried about being a babysitter then an ump.
The Bullpen is huge question mark as you never know what you’re going to get.
Well proving again they can’t hit the starting pitcher.
Going to be long game today.
With today’s lineup it’s proving OSU doesn’t have the offense they thought they had.
Teams are learning to pitch around Travis as the rest are likely to get themselves out.
Kasper doesn’t look comfortable at the plate might take awhile to get the groove back not sure they have that time. Krieg still at first shows how shallow this lineup really is.
Good Lord, you would think you would be happy about the Quack’s decent season. Don’t you have a comparable Duck site you can lend your analysis to and give it a rest here? “Student Beaver”, right?
So you can’t handle honest analysis?
I know you dream of CWS but you gotta open your eyes and be realistic.
I don’t need to dream of CWS, it’s already happened three times in my existence! You’re amateurish babble I could live without, but there’s always the ignore button or just scrolling on.
Surprised you know how to operate a computer with your old ignorance.
Yes you dream of it every day. Probably need to change your depends.
Whoo!
You old, old timer.
Nothing means nothing, until we have a conference championship in our hands.
Woo Hoo!
Shuler staying home. There’s two kids. She,s not Hunter, she needs to work hard but considering she was a two sport athlete in HS she isnt as far behind as the HS specialist kids.
She has great feet, good handles and can make good passes. She’s prone to making correct reads but mistiming the speed, length and athleticism of the pac players, hopefully with more coaching and playing time she’ll get to that elite level. She also needs to work on her shooting.
Rueck evaluating and recruiting, the portal, 1100 kids in the portal, playing a weaker conference schedule, if he can convince some better kids to come to Corvallis…
Calling it here. This team doesn’t have the pitching depth to make it to Omaha, and maybe not even the Super Regionals.
Is that you beaveranalyst? You sure switch the name quick to post your insights.
What part of what I said do you disagree with? Do you really think this pitching, that our amazing bats have saved us from on multiple occasions, is Omaha level? Please compare our bull pen and their performances to the 2018 team and get back to me. Bats are nice to have but the thing that gets teams to Omaha is lights out pitching. I don’t see that with this team.
We don’t even have what I would consider to be a reliable ace. If only we still had Hjerpe.
Are you insinuating that the game hasn’t changed since 2018? Anyone following the sport knows that the game has changed significantly in the last six years. LSU, who won last year, had one starter and two relievers who were elite, that was it.
Their whole batting lineup was elite; That is what carried them to the title, which should show you the change in the game. Hitters are way ahead of pitchers nowadays due to the advancement in technologies that allow them to capture so much more data to improve their swings.
OSU has an elite starter in Kmatz and a couple of decent relievers. Oregon State is #4 in the country in batting average and slugging and #13 overall in ERA. This team is going to be just fine. I rest my case.
Right on cue, we get back in it to tie it, and our pitching gives up a homer.
This staff has chosen velocity over control and now they must navigate the season with the arms they have chosen. I’m just as concerned but I am an actual Beaver fan, not a Duck troll feigning concern about OSU pitching flaws.
Did you just change your name from beaveranalyst to studentbeaver?
I thought Angry had a policy against multiple identities. I don’t know if this team is CWS-bound, all I know is they are good and it’s certainly been a positive with everything else going on with Beav sports. This guy seems petrified that the Beavs might pull off a 4th national championship.
Just because 2 people speak the truth makes them the same person. Is that just scared thinking someone might be right and backed by another???
They are solid team but not elite. To many holes with coaches that hand no idea what they are doing.
As I type they lose toa bad Stanford team
Oh well thanks for pointing out the pitching problems. Everyone on this sight has been a huge Dorman fan going on about 4 years, never had been a concern about the pitching until you began pointing it out.
Now I can’t unsee the reality that the pitching staff isn’t very good in pressure situations and Dorman isn’t a very good strategist, nor does he have much of a feel for the game. I just realized all of this in the last coupe of days while Beaveranalyst and studentbeaver have been helping me understand the dynamics of Beaver baseball.
Perhaps I’ll just not follow the Beavs because it is obvious they can’t win anything, probably can’t even win the PAC12 conference so why should I hope for Regional, Super-Regionals or even Omaha?
Good to have fellow Beaver fans so
Willing to help me with their input and harp on anyone who is simply bored with them.
With his multiple log-ins, he’s figured out how to downvote all of us also over and over. Nice we have a 13-year-old Duck fan in our group! I’ve lost count of how many of his types have come and gone over the years.
13?
Why do we have to blame this on age?
It’s just what Ducks do.
I want nothing more than a 4th CWS title, nothing I have posted should imply otherwise. I’m also not delusional. For a site called Angry Beavs, a lot of you sure love to plug your ears and yell “lalalalalala” when hard truths come up. I truly don’t know what I’ve ever posted to imply that I’m a Duck fan so it’s always weird I get accused of that. Just yesterday I say that we can’t let hole win the conference and some of you seemed to get upset about me stating that as well. So weird. My predictions tend to be pretty accurate particularly because I’m able to speak on hard truths.
Remember when this board was convinced that 10-3 was our floor in football this year and I correctly predicted our true record? As much as I love the Beavs, a lot of people on this board struggle with taking off the orange colored glasses.
Hard truths? It’s more like misinformed hot takes. You act like a CWS title is easy to win, which tells me all I need to know. Spoiler: The best team doesn’t always win. In 2018, we got lucky with a bad defensive play by Arkansas. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have gotten that third title. Do some more research genius before you post these takes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MiHC05d63o
In what way shape or form have I acted like I think winning a CWS is easy? I’ve literally been saying that it takes amazing pitching to win it generally speaking. Make sure you don’t pull a muscle with that massive stretch you just made.
You bring up 2018 and state that it took us luck to win it. That is true. For surviving game two, it took some luck. You know what actually won us the title, though? Pitching. In game three, our actual opportunity to win the title, Kevin Abel had a career performance and retired 20 straight batters to bring in the W.
vapid
That’s what you are… devoid of meaning and full of whatever.
Maybe you can learn something from reading some of the classics.
Maybe you can form a classic argument, if you had any understanding of the classics.
Maybe.
First time in six years that we’ve taken Furd, and Ducky think it sucks.
Fuck it, Ducky.
Keep your perpetual non-championships and loser tude.
Studentbeaver, read my comment again because comprehension isn’t your strong suit. Our hitting won us game two, which you totally disregarded in your response (surprise, surprise). Yes, Abel won us game three which aligns with the point i made to another one of your hot takes above the thread. You need one good starting pitcher, two good relievers and elite hitting.
Than on top of it you admit he had a “career” performance. So you expect people to have career performances in the most high stakes situations? You are delusional.
Ps. Studentbeaver, you brought up 2018, not me. You are so smart. Lmao!!!
You wrote recently that a CWS would be tainted without a Pac 12 Championship.
8-4 was our football floor. Undefeated was our ceiling. 10 wins was most likely. Jonathan Smith happened and destroyed any of it.
You were wrong about everything but the record, which was the least meaningful part of the season. If anyone had known what Smith was doing, you would have put the floor at 6 wins, and some people probably would have agreed. You were wrong for the same reasons everyone else was wrong.
You should go to some Stanford blogs and lament their softball team losing to the Beavs. They must be distraught that their season is now destroyed by that outing and they should just pack it in.
The reason people think you’re a Duck, btw, is because your writing is steeped in a whiny sense of self-importance and self-entitlement… you know… like a Duck fan. And then you react to any criticism of your self-titled honest analysis with excessive whining and childish actions… like a Duck fan.
Grow up, and peope might take you seriously, instead of seeing you as the annoyance you are.
I never was sold on relying primarily on power pitching.
Here is my view about Mitch and the team:
1) They represent the last chance for OSU to stick it to the conference realignment instigators.
2) Based on recent transfers from other sports, I hope they can win a title in Omaha this year because it may be likely that a lot of guys transfer out within days of the season ending.
3) The offense may be the best we will ever see at OSU.
4) Mitch has made a clear decision to go for an elite offense rather than elite pitching.
5) Dorman has recruited to a different type of pitcher than we became accustomed to with Casey/Yeskie era.
6) Defense has taken a step back in favor of offensive production.
7) Micro level analysis shows Beavs are not a well balanced team and the pitching isn’t great.
8) Macro level- college baseball isn’t full of great pitchers and they have decided that a better approach is to hit the crap out of the ball and take their chances that there won’t be many 11-10 losses over the course of 70 games.
9) I see the flaws, I know the problems, I am annoyed or how different this team functions compared to Casey’s best squads, but let me dream for Omaha and a title because of #1, and stop saying I can’t handle the truth. I’m not blinded by Beaver goggles but I do need to hope in a baseball title while it is still a possibility.
In fairness, you do make good and often obvious points about pitching etc. which we all already recognized and commented about preseason because Dorman talked a big game before we saw the staff for this year. He emphasized how great the velo was for a lot of the new guys and dodged on control issues. Walks, hit batters, wild pitches continue to be issues but a broader comparison nationally shows the staff to be better than we think. Perhaps due to the prior staffs, this staff seems startlingly lacking in steady arms.
It’s possible they don’t win a conference championship, possibly not hosting a super regional or even making it to Omaha, but I’d like to watch it play out instead of reading your comments burying the Beavs every Friday in the 3rd inning.
The same issues will be visible until the season ends, I get it.
I’d really like to see us develop 3-4 more reliable bullpen guys. Seemed like Keljo was turning a corner over his last couple outings but unfortunately had a rough go today. As for xfers, I’d like to see what type of independent schedule they can put together. If it’s competitive and has enough P4 teams on it, I could see them keeping most of the squad together, especially with at least 3 key guys going pro after this year and Hainline being done (he might get drafted too but for sure Bazz, Kasper and McDowell). I do think that’s what sunk the women’s team…the schedule.
The bullpen has more gas cans than an Autozone.
Only one team in the NCAA has a team ERA under 3.00. Only 17 teams with ERAs under 4.00.
I <3 this site.
Looks like Sela Heide is staying, and Rueck has been spotted at the Masters Tourney.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/193940634052037/
It’s 4 days old, but if you haven’t watched it here is Bray answering questions about DM’s departure and plans for a Spring game.
So easy to believe in this guy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvigOKV8U_E
These wolverine sightings are pretty fun.
Tracking the little guy, he’s gone from Damascus to Colton to Barlow and then crossed the valley and headed out to the coast to visit Netarts, Newport, and Florence, before heading back into the valley to Eugene and Creswell. He was in Lebanon, as of yesterday.
Little guy gets around.
I’ll keep an eye out over the hill in Three Rivers
At treeline, July ’82, Goat Rocks Wilderness…….saw one lope across the snow at the top of a basin. Most graceful wild animal ever!
The books at that time said they didn’t exist anywhere near that area; a good lesson for my young son that books don’t always have it right. Especially when dealing with the life of some of these critters.
The current sightings?………….”pretty fun” indeed!
My grandpa always said he has seen them in the Santiam Canyon
They’re finally opening Elkhorn, later this year. But no Opal Creek or Three Pools this year. :(
My grandpa saw one up the hill in Ophir north of Gold beach in 81’
I haven’t seen them there, but a couple friends who live down that way have seen some multiple times on the Little Grayback Trail.
That part of the state (and Cali) has so many varying sub-climates that produce a wide range of flora and fauna. I do see fishers a lot, but they’re smaller and darker.
Are we sure it’s the same one? That’s a lot of running on those short little legs.
Quizz Rodgers begs to differ…
he came by my house yesterday evening for dinner. friendly little fellow with a big appetite.
Terrible manners too i bet…
Long way from Michigan…
Its a sign. In a time if change, the nomadic, conference-less rodents are now ranging predators…
The Oregon State Wolverines. Let the lawsuits ensue…
: )
ESPN’s top women’s transfer rankings has three ex beavs in the top 11 with Hunter as an honorable mention.
Since Rueck had no seniors, there were no recruits coming in. Will need to hit the portal for the rejects and damaged goods. Ones who need a shot to redeem themselves and then they’ll transfer out after a good year. It’s the life Beavs WBB will have to navigate for the next two years without a permanent conference situation. Have to accept being a stepping stone school for the next few years.
I don’t mean to hate on these girls that transferred but I kind of hope they flop at their new schools. Not because I am being petty but because I want OSU to get a reputation as a system school. If you look at the NBA when the Lakers and Spurs were on their streaks as contenders they’d always lose guys to free agency that had huge playoffs. Some would do ok but others wouldn’t with playing for a different coach and different teammates. If some girls flop maybe the Beavers are less likely to get poached as teams will be afraid that they only looked good because of the system.
Should not be afraid of poaching anymore. Just accept it. If they are being poached, it means good results on the court which may or may not help the school’s rep to get into a stable conference. This goes for all sports.
Well if it happens it happens, I think you are missing my point though. My point is that if OSU players flop a bit post OSU people won’t be as eager to poach as they know a lot of why the player looks good is coaching
All coaches think they can coach any player up. Flops don’t stop poaching.
I don’t think having players getting poached has anything to do with good results anymore. Bad teams lose good players now. Hell, even good teams lose bad players. None of it has anything to do with the team or school anymore.
My thinking is that the girls leaving are frauds and liars. America’s team, we love each other. They had the chance to be even better than Elite the next couple of years. But threw it away…for what?
Money
Hard disagree.
I think it’s about money.
From the GT:
“In light of Martinez’s departure, the decision of running back Jam Griffin to transfer back to Oregon State takes on greater importance. Griffin started his career at Georgia Tech and transferred to Oregon State for the 2022 season.
He then moved on to Ole Miss for last season, but returned to Oregon State this spring.
Griffin said he “didn’t really want to leave” Oregon State a year ago but there were family issues which led to his decision. He said once those issues were resolved he had one destination in mind.
“I knew me going back in the portal, I only wanted to go one place and that was here,” Griffin said.
The relationships he had with teammates still on the roster and especially his relationship with Bray were the key factors in his decision.”
OSU needs a whole new women’s BB team? Have the men’s team declare as transgender. They are sure to win at least half their games.
Not funny
If it further implodes college athletics, I’m for it.
There’s not enough mbb players to fill the wbb roster.
28 year old OSU inside LBs coach AJ Cooper differentiates himself from old man Bray:
“Q: How does your style different from Trent Bray, who previously coached inside linebackers?
Cooper: I just think I’m more relatable to the guys, just me being my age. Kind of the energy that I coach with and also, I’ve coached every position on the defense and having some back-end experience … “
I like how we’ve reached the point now where players are having to post that they’re staying. Glad Coach Rueck had a chance to have some fun at the Masters cause it’s gonna be a rough few years to say the least.
The players are now apparently whining to Canzano about the “fan backlash” with TVO being the loudest protester. It’s behind a paywall, so I couldn’t read it all. Boo-hoo!
Not sure why TVO is defending any of them. Do they need defending?
They’re ostensibly doing this for exposure. They’re getting it.
So if that’s not true, and playing for a championship isn’t important, what’s it all really about?
I read the Canzano substack before you get to the paywall oart – wbb ingrates couldn’t even write their own farewell, heartfelt blah blahs. They had someone they were all “comfortable with” write them. He/she used the same font and format for all of them to describe their ”journeys.”
I saw the anonymous quote from a D-1 men’s coach who said these “TikTok” announcements are basically stupid and unnecessary. Just go into the portal and move on, you don’t need a “social media” post.
You really don’t, but I give a pass to anyone who gets a degree. They’ve earned a goodbye.
The WBB players want fans to care, but they can’t control all the ways in which fans care, including being disappointed or upset when players leave without clear rationale.
WBB enjoyed pretty good live attendance at Gill this past year in particular. The players can’t have it both ways.
I suspect with the huge increase in attention to WBB this past season, players are perhaps seeking programs where they think they may get more exposure and attention.
And be careful what you say publicly if there’s any chance at all you leave. I think the feel-good quotes from players like DM and TVO helped create whatever backlash there was.
Fan backlash is only gonna get worse. Welcome to being a pro athlete TVO. You want to get maximum NIL money, expect to get criticized for not actually caring about winning. It is obvious to me every women that is leaving is choosing money over a chance to be great.
It is their right and good for them but to whine they are criticized for it is weak.
I’ve read that Rueck is an avid/really good golfer.His son won a prestigious golf tournament recently which.entitled him to play in the Genesis Scottish Open this summer and the family will be going to Scotland to watch him play.
Lmao terrible take if rueck can win in the pac he can definitely win in the wcc
He came into the league under the worst possible circumstances thanks to LaVonda Wagner and did ok. He can probably dominate the WCC or a reconstituted Pac-whatever given a couple of years and if he stays.
Football transfer portal is open again. Any update from Nicebeaver about incoming guys or departures yet?
Bernice Beaver almost transferred to another school… I hear it was a very close shave!
I’m out on a trip, not really paying attention to recruiting.
To be honest, I’m 90% burned out on recruiting and just college sports in general. I’ll still check baseball scores but that will be the extent of my fandom till fall camp other than the occasional twitter retweet.
Speaking of retweets, i did see we’ve added 2 future non conference games for football
Houston and Kansas State. Both on the road with no home return game mentioned.
That’s Big Sky conference type scheduling.
https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1780273690573447330?t=YLiWeupGbEPHDSaDDYk-Bg&s=19
Those graphics show home and homes
Oh good, i was misreading it. Glad to be wrong because the thought of road only games against KSU/Houston was depressing
Starting with 2025, Oregon State has 17 football games under contract. They are:
2025: Portland State (Aug. 30), Fresno State (Sept. 6), at Texas Tech (Sept. 13), at Oregon (Sept. 20), Houston (Sept. 27).
2026: at Houston (Sept. 5), Texas Tech (Sept. 12), at San Diego State (Sept. 19)
2027: Portland State (Sept. 4), New Mexico (Sept. 11), at Mississippi (Sept. 18)
2028: at New Mexico (Sept. 9)
2029: San Jose State (Sept. 8)
I didn’t realize there was a game @ UO next year. Disappointing, i thought this fall was the last one.
Did Cal cancel the game in Corvallis on 8/30/25? News to me
Well-deserved brea and wholly understand; look forward to what updates you feel up to offering as fall draws closer.
Thanks for all of the info you’ve provided when you were engaged. Your decreasing interest is completely understandable.
Enjoy the vacation!
Barnes, ““It’s unhealthy for college athletics, and first and foremost it’s unhealthy for the student athlete. Graduation rates are suffering. Life lessons of persevering, of overcoming challenges where you are, that carry you forward into your job and your career are dissipating because of this, in some form,”
Full story (no paywall) here:
https://archive.ph/ELtfL#selection-361.0-361.316
Reading this just sickens the stomach. A kid out of high school who can dribble a ball and shoot it into the hoop can make more then most of us who have been grinding through life for years. It really does make one just want to walk away from it all. I mean if I’m going to watch paid athletes compete I might as well just spend my time watching the real professions in the big leagues. The whole thing is sickening.
I don’t mind that these kids are finally getting paid, this may be their most marketable time of their lives and I think they deserve the pay.
The problem is the transfer portal and “collectives”
Pay should be through actual sponsorships and a % of the TV money. Not donated money. And the transfer portal makes them all mercenaries and makes it impossible for me to care anymore. The point was to root for fellow Beavs not “Beavs till a better NIL offer comes”
I welcome the destruction of college athletics at this point.
youngors I agree to an extent. But it is totally out of control. All of pro sports have caps and rules for each team to even the playing field. Nothing like that exists for college at this stage at least. And if we want to talk about what is fair is it fair that one member of the team is getting nothing while the other is getting millions. Giving anyone who plays… anyone… a scholarship and funds to live on through their college career would be more fair then what this is right now. It is he with the most money wins.
You’re never gonna convince me caps are good for a sport but I get your point.
I’d argue under a model where the players get paid a % of the TV deal and endorsements you could make the system work. The key is having some kind of rules around NIL and the Transfer Portal. I think the Portal is doing the most damage. I don’t even think the NFL could survive every player being a free agent every offseason.
Remember, they don’t get paid because they can play a game, they get paid because people will watch them play it. If we as a society would quit watching…but that’s not happening soon.
It makes me think that OSU should, if it doesn’t already, have financial literacy as a component of their relationship to “student”-athletes.
I think people are gonna quite watching college sports if this doesn’t get figured out.
The lifeblood of college fandom still comes from alums with a connection to the schools they root for, People that otherwise wouldn’t watch college sports or maybe any sports. I think those people are being turned off by this.
I know I am. And I’ve yet to have a single alum friend even suggest we go to any football games next year. Had a Boise State friend ask if I wanted to go to Boise for that game. But that’s it. Usually by now we’re making specific plans about which games. I have no interest.
IIm in Vegas right now. Starting to think of college athletics like gambling.
Putting money into a collective is like sports betting. Putting your money on the Beavs may have terrible odds, but the payoff will be so sweet if they actually ever win(they wont, that’s why the odds are so terrible)
Putting your money on Bama/Ohio State/Michigan yields the best odds year to year, but who cares? They payoff is terrible as a Beaver fan.
Imagine being a duck fan and thinking you have 5:1 odds every year, but you continually lose the bet. At least the Beavs don’t cost me much when they lose.
Agree they will lose many viewers, but they’re concentrating the “league” around rabid fans who live vicariously through the teams – SEC, B10, so those will likely be the last holdouts. Many SEC fans aren’t even alum. The south is football crazy.
Plus, NFL owners want to go to add another regular season game….
I’ll be fishing on fall Saturdays…
The golden goose of college football is being cooked as we speak. I think they know it isn’t going to work out well but the networks just continue to double down for appearances sake.
NFL legally cannot play on Saturdays during college football season. Congress banned it decades ago. Otherwise the NFL would already be playing on Saturdays.
I just meant the market is over saturating with football (IMO) not that the NFL would play on Saturday.
Fair enough, I think the NFL and B1G/SEC are going to end up agreeing to some kind of partnership that basically turns those schools into the NFL minor leagues. I think the majority of fans will hate this and I think even SEC/B1G fans will turn on such an arrangement fairly quickly but I think that is what’s next for those 3 entities.
Full collaboration.
If they break off into a professional league, we can ban them playing on Fridays or Saturdays, just like we do the NFL.
Week 0 Sunday starting off the season, with a Thursday game before that.
The NFL doesn’t like competition for their money.
“Did Oregon State attempt to retain key basketball players by making attractive NIL offers? Bjornstad said in the case of the men’s top two players, Jordan Pope and Tyler Bilodeau, “I was overly aggressive.” A source told The Oregonian/OregonLive that Bilodeau had a NIL offer of low six figures, and Pope about double that.
Bjornstad is confident he made good NIL offers to several women’s players for the upcoming season. He declined to reveal amounts.”
Six figures for the two better men’s players on a bad team. And money on the women’s side too. Seems respectable.
I think it is hilarious how delusional the Tinkle’s transfer mbb guys are. Insane that any of them actually believe they may be NBA players someday. Perhaps they are all exiting from a burning building or leaping from a sinking ship, so to speak.
The greater disappointment is that wbb transfers thinking better exposure comes from lesser roles on lesser teams in bigger conferences rather than running it back together with a real shot at an undefeated season and a final four appearance.
Barnes has finally spoken and I agree with his sentiment about the current situation for NIL and transfers.
Maybe they want to be backups on a team that wins sometimes and chase college girls…
Completely agree on the WBB, weird they think walking away from a top 10/elite 8 team to unknown teammates, unknown coaching staff & philosophy, unknown roles is better for their career and exposure.
Also agree on Barnes comments , surprised no one here had commented on that yet.
I will tell you though in regards to going pro, almost every mbb or football SA I’ve met, or talked to, thinks they are going to be a pro. They have been the best at every level they have played, of course they are the best. Having a player like Malcolm Marable tell you he’s going to the league is a real eye opener …like what?! Dude! Let’s be real. I mean getting humbled on the regular seems like it would steer you directly toward going to class , not to the portal
TVO was the glue for WBB. She led the charge and when she left, the flood gates opened. I don’t blame her, but I wonder if the NIL could have prevented the mass exodus with a six figure offer to TVO. For MBB, any NIL is a bad ROI. Tinkle is absolutely toxic. The team mocks him behind his back.
How is AI being used in college basketball and football recruiting and coaching? Are there rules governing its use or school capacities? OSU will have (a) supercomputer(s) with lots of capacity for example, probably even an advantage over most schools.
OSU should look at the spirts workflows and strategically integrate AI where they can.
IF in a few years u and wash st build back the pac -10 here is
1 Arizona St did not want to leave the pac 10 Arizona made them leave
2 Stan/Cal they would come back
3 San Diego St wants to leave the mth west
4 San Jose St
5 UNLV – vegas
if the mth west fights u on SDSU and UNLY
look at these schools
1 Tulane – new orlans
2 Memphis great basketball school and ok in football
3 UConn football only Gonzana baksetball only
4 North Texas
5 tulsa
Had Stanford/Cal not panicked I think they could have quickly pivoted and added SMU, Tulane, Memphis and one other school such as Tulsa or Rice (I know they don’t invest heavily in athletics but Houston and rich) and had them all going into 2024 thereby not giving the other conferences the ability to “demote” the PAC but it didn’t happen.
But 7 of the 8 (if you take Rice) would have been considered to be in a “power conference” at some point. SMU/Rice in the SWC and Tulane was in the SEC at one point. It would have been sellable as a conference equal to the Big 12/ACC in my view.
The PAC is dead now, I think the last few weeks have made it clear that IF the PAC exists again one day it will just be the MWC plus OSU/WSU under a new banner.
No mention of Fresno?
Riley was at practice today.
Alert!! Alert!! Red Flags going off everywhere inn my mind! Serious PTSD when he gets close to the program. Please don’t post such information because it brings out the worst fears and nearly stops any positive hope for next year. I wish I was kidding but I’m not. I just can’t think of Riley being around the program again, even out of his own curiosity or moral support for the coaches. It just has a bad vibe to it and feels like a communicable disease hitting the staff from a philosophical standpoint.
Since getting canned at nebraska I think he’s been to at least one practice every spring and fall.
He’s not coaching in the USFL or whatever it’s called now, so he has more time on his hands.
JS was consulting with him from the start and had pretty good results.
Any HC that doesn’t have the assertiveness/gravitas/whatever to escape Riley’s shadow has no business being a HC. It’s not like MR ever won anything.
If he brings donors with his presence, who cares?
Cover all bases.
This is such a silly complaint. Mike Riley is a very well respected football coach that would be welcome by football coaches at nearly any school.
I was a “Riley hater” but at this point some of the hate people have for him has become irrational.
I talked to MR recently, he looked really worn down, asked about Dee, her health issues are a lot to deal with. He probably can use an occasional break. Let’s find some empathy and cut the guy some slack, shall we?
I think people also need to get over his coaching deficiencies as a HC and accept that we pretty much got what we paid for, and having a true “family atmosphere” means he’s a part of that family.
If you don’t like this, just think to yourself, “It is what it is.”
At least it wasn’t drunk Gary,
Bazzana gets plunked on the wrist and was in obvious pain. Taken out of the game.
Hope it’s just precautionary and not serious.
Luck O da Beavs
Damn, I just logged into the stream and wondered why Trosky was playing second. Not good. Finger’s crossed
https://twitter.com/oysteranalytics/status/1780412485193121894
Replay of the HBP. He seemed to moving the hand wrist ok. Maybe got him in the forearm.
Hopefully good news. Interestingly, a Corvallis kid playing for Nevada Taylor Holder blasted a two-run homer to dead center for the Wolfpack. So far another sloppy pitching performance by the “secondary” Beav staff. 5-4 Good guys top of the 6th.
Dang, this isn’t good. Oregon duck Daylen Austin(brother of former Beaver Alex Austin) was charged with a felony hit and run last night. Today it was revealed the person he hit was a 56 year old man who died.
https://twitter.com/JamesCrepea/status/1780632966349373525?t=fUMNJ2WD0A7RnCW5LlmZ0w&s=19
Duck media is in full damage control mode.
https://twitter.com/JHopkinsSD/status/1780652712985817508?t=s6me3PuT5AcNdwszRrwuqQ&s=19
*46 year old man, not 56
They’re already saying the feared for his life, and a hammer was found near the victim but the victim had a lacerated neck? Weird situation
OJ protege
Justifiable homicide by vehicle?
Oh no Jai Lambert is entering the portal.
:eye roll:
Do these kids enter the portal just to write one these lame entering the portal things?
Speaking of, have you seen the 5 schools dame is looking at?
I’ve seen Kentucky, Mississippi state, Miami, and Tennessee. I forgot the other.
I just remember Miami would probably be the best for an O-line for rushing situation.
And exposure i suspect…unless Tenn brings more?
I’m a bit surprised Oregon isn’t in the mix.
Arizona’s the 5th school.
lol… that’s right
Florida: weed illegal
Mississippi:weed illegal
Kentucky: weed illegal
Tennessee: weed illegal
Arizona: hmmm, may be on to something
That used car salesman he’s got as an agent is pretty shitty if that’s his list. The dudes a stud and no one from a blue blood is trying to get him?
That slimy agent is using Damien to further His reputation, Damien does well and the agent is in demand. Damien would have been more of a story at OSU. Somewhere it’s been noted that Barnes deferred when asked recently about Tinkle/3 years/ 10 million/no money to fire him.
My suspicion, he’ll go to Miami.
Agent is a Miami guy and Miami is the last of the 5 visits.
Probably lined up 4 other visits to help set the market so they can squeeze whatever they can get out of Miami.
That school is paying Cristobal recprd setting money, so he needs to win now after 2 crappy seasons. Heck, I could see him paying Martinez himself just to help save his job.
Plus they already poached Cam Ward from WSU. They saw weakness and used a shady agent to get the job done.
I’m ok with transferring at will, but could the NCAA place a ban on these stupid “goodbye” messages?
Here’s good business practice providing another example of college football’s health:
“The University of Miami (Fla.) paid football coach Mario Cristobal $22.7 million in 2022, including $7.7 million in base pay and $14.9 million in “other reportable compensation,” according to a federal tax form released by the university Tuesday to USA TODAY sports.
This is the largest-ever, single-year amount for an athletics department employee on a tax form by a private university, according to USA TODAY Sports research. The university did not go into further detail about why he was paid that much except that it paid “gross-up payments” to Cristobal and others — payments that cover income taxes so that the recipient receives a set amount of pay.”
They probably paid for his buyout here and bought his house at market value, which was pretty hot at the time.
And still not worth it. Great recruiter. Dumb ass for a coach.
https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/sports/locked-on/lo-miami/miami-hurricanes-show/mario-cristobal-fails-take-knee-miami-hurricanes-lose-georgia-tech-blunder/535-f2b69990-f23b-46e3-a891-edce390cc399
We got to see it here. We don’t need further proof.
His wife was also a Peach. Ugh!
It makes perfect sense. If your gross base pay is $7.7 mil then your taxes are $14.9 mil. WTF?
that’s right
he’d also need to pay taxes on whatever money they gave him for the buyout. that’s not a small chunk they probably covered.
Any news on Bazzana. He is not in lineup tonight.
I read that Mike Parker said on his pre-game report that it hit the meat of his hand and X-rays were negative. He should be ok. Beavs were down early 4-1. Turley just hit a grand slam, Good Guys are up 7-4 top of the four.
666
Elaborate.
Good Lord, Beav’s pitching fell apart again, 10-10 Beavs batting in the top of the 9th.
No lead is safe with this Beaver baseball team!!!!
This team is 1-2 in its last 3 games. 1-1 without the Australian Bomber…
They are done. Season over.
Tear down the stands.
Apparently when Turley hits a grand slam it is a guaranteed loss.
some takeaways from listening to interviews RE OSU passing game,
Offense, and language, is easier to learn, allowing players to play faster, perhaps play earlier in their careers.
WRs not as fast as last year, but still some good speed, and obviously more height.
Wells (6′ 1″), Walker (6′ 2″) and Noga (6′ 2″) called out as having good springs, as well as Card (5′ 9″). Card has added good weight, but is “never going to be a juggernaut out there.”
Still an emphasis on blocking for the run game.
TEs will have more downfield routes.
In spring game, QB McCoy wants people to see him as confident, relaxed, putting ball in the right place for play makers. Reser is “Huge!” relative to his experience in the dome @ Idaho, and he’s looking forward to playing in it.
Sounds like the D has been dominating, which I think is good to hear. It’d be very concerning if a new O with new QBs was dominating the D.
I know we have to expect players to say positive things, but there appears to be genuine appreciation of the increased simplicity of Gunderson’s system. I recall Gunderson saying he wanted to be able to “play with tempo,” so I suspect that benefits from simplicity.
This concept sounds a lot like what Gary Patterson did at TCU on both sides of the ball.
I had years ago wanted OSU Beavs to get Patterson in an interview pool. I thought the TCU model was a good one and the D fun to watch.
Also, this staff’s approach makes a lot of sense with so many new staff and players adjusting to so much change.
Well, this still caused a ripple…..I mean, I didn’t see any “news” in there, all of the reasons to be “optimistic” are due to accomplishments that have happened – more than a few by athletes who have bolted since. But hey, we still have Jade Carey. And a new stadium. And a good baseball team.
https://osubeavers.com/news/2024/4/16/general-amessage-to-beaver-nation
All that said, the players who have left shouldn’t be taking the brunt of the criticism – the administrators, presidents and ADs who were asleep at the switch are the ones at fault. These players signed to play at a Pac-12 school, they shouldn’t be faulted when the schools don’t deliver.
None of the SAs who signed on to play in the Pac 12 will be doing so next year. Are any surefire preseason top 10 teams in that group seeing a mass exodus?
Hoops isn’t football. If you’re great, that’s all that matters for respect. There will always be snobs who like to say I told you so, when inevitably only one team wins the championship, and it’s not you.
But they’re playing both sides for clicks.
They had the opportunity to be America’s team… the bad news Beavs. EVERYONE is watching what us and Wazzu are doing. But because of OSU’s conservative nature, we’re in a better position than Wazzu to take advantage of the free publicity.
It’s a massive wasted opportunity.
Another day, another change in NIL laws.
Virginia has a new law going into effect July 1st which will now allow the school to pay their players for NIL directly.
Not sure who this benefits the most. Soon other states wilo be forced to follow suit, yoy would think. But do the Virginia schools want to actually spend more money than they have to? Seems like the current method of routing pay to players via donors and other outside parties is more ideal for the schools who can use their revenue to fund other inportant things like multi-million dollar coaching salaries.
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39967961/virginia-law-allows-schools-pay-athletes-nil
The NCAA might as well fold up shop and just let the states run their college sports as they see fit. No need for unified decisions and a common set of rules for all teams to play by.
This would be fitting that their lack of oversight on NIL and Portal would be their own demise.
“University of Virginia athletic director Carla Williams said. “… we have an obligation to ensure we maintain an elite athletics program at UVA.’
What? Is UVA an academic institution or a minor league pro team?
How soon until the schools begin asking for tax payer funding to maintain the athletic department as a public service and in the public interest?
It likely happens with back channel funding in many forms already but these types of decisions will push a lot of schools into a similar mindset of athletics at all costs and get the government to pay for our facilities/coaches/NIL.
Another road marker on the way to collapse.
“Too big to fail”
BG in a boot today :(
McCoy looking improved and Johnson has been impressive even tho he has a small sample size since he missed the first half of Spring practice.
Does McCoy appear to have the arm strength for DI?
Good reporting, thank you Jake.
I said I was dialing back my following of recruiting, but that doesn’t mean I won’t have the occasional gut bomb.
I believe the Beavs will pick up a commitment from 2025 ATH Deji Jose during his official visit this weekend.
https://247sports.com/Player/deji-ajose-46118592/
By the way, is anybody attending the Spring game? Is it on TV?
I can’t go because my kids both have soccer games
“…the Spring Showcase will air on the Pac-12 Networks beginning at noon.”
Free admission and parking.
https://osubeavers.com/news/2024/4/16/football-spring-showcase-scheduled-for-saturday-at-reser-stadium
While in high school, he reportedly could throw a football over them mountains. If coach would have put him in the 4th quarter, they would have won state.
Lucky
Wasn’t that back in ’82? =D
Jade Carey scores 39.70 in all-around. She ties for the silver medal at NCAA championships, the best finish in Oregon State history.
Nick daschel x
39.70 is pretty outstanding.
Congrats to her.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/04/oregon-states-jade-carey-sets-a-school-record-with-an-all-around-silver-medal-at-ncaa-championships.html
I still don’t see why schools don’t just incorporate student-athletes into whatever they do with grad student TAs and student workers. Granted, the scale might be different, but it isn’t like there aren’t students that have already been getting paychecks from the athletic department.
That’s what the NLRB lawsuits are about.
I see a lot of people thinking unionized SAs will destroy college sports. But they’re already being paid and are given benefits and health care. The accounting is just twisted four ways to Sunday, in order to make it look like it’s not compensation.
You’re correct, in that in-kind compensation regarding academics is not taxable. So states need to first pass laws that say the schools can pay the SAs directly. Then they have to keep a proper accounting of the money that goes from the school to the SAs… and back to the school again.
How much will SAs get, in addition to scholarships, room and board, access to facilities and personnel, tutoring, health care, and stipends? That’s going to be determined by SAs negotiating a CBA. And in that CBA, things like academic progress standards, transfer rules, and employment contracts with buyouts can be negotiated.
Some schools may not be able to do this. And that may be the issue that people are all confused about. Remember interviews with Brennan about fighting to just get three squares for his players at SJSU.
As I’m reading comments of these doomsayers in the articles about this, it’s becoming obvious that a lot of people have zero clues about labor law.
Which suggests OSU and WSU could benefit from a strategy based in it rather than just watching and waiting to be saved by some future conference realignment.
I think a lot of schools are, and people are just blind to it.
The Notre Dame case will be interesting, because the school itself seems welcoming to the idea. And I think the vast majority of athletes understand the value of an education and everything they’re getting with an athletic scholarship.
While a handful of schools have recently dominated the NCAA decisions, due to their ability to form a cartel around one sport’s revenues, the sum of all athletes will have the final say. And they will not allow a handful of football players to take away from them something they work just as hard to do.
Being proactive would be best. We should welcome a CBA with all these goodies for both sides. And those schools who don’t want to be a part of this NCAA structure can simply leave the NCAA.
You know Knight/Nike attorneys know labor law and loopholes. Won’t be surprised if they draft something to their for Oregon legislature.
They know enough to subvert them and public bidding in ostensibly public facilities. But I think the remainder of what they know is that they make their stuff in SE Asia for a reason.
Maybe someday we’ll see the phrase “Responsibly-sourced NIL”….
“We already have free trade. We want fair trade.”
Memphis gets a deal with Fedex for NIL. Maybe that’s the future where the fans aren’t bled dry for NIL dollars. OSU presented by NVIDIA. All players are AI bots.
WSU Shultz is retiring at the end of next year. That’s a downer since he’s our voice on the CFP board.
So will wsu lose the spot or will the guy that takes over get it?
The twitter people are theorizing that this and his comments that he wouldn’t retire until the fate of the Pac-12 and WSU was wholly resolved and Barnes/Murthy comments about our scheduling Houston and Kansas State being “strategic” means it’s likely there is some kind of back-room deal that ensures OSU/WSU end up in the Big12 in most scenarios (ACC collapses and B12 becomes a coast-to-coast conference of leftovers trying to stay in the ‘Power 3’).
Copium or not that narrative is out there quite a bit FWIW.
We have a network, and the Big XIIIIII does not have one.
And there might be four schools of that XIIIIII who could benefit from not having to pay our conference back, should they rejoin it in some way.
Baz and Micah both in starting lineup tonight. Great news.
Wondering if they truly ready or forcing it???
Micah will probably be back out next week. Travis hard to say might hurt it wise and drop in draft because Mitch is idiot.
Beavs playing like unwashed ass tonight!
It’s been a home run derby for Cal early on. 3 on the night and they have the lead 6-3 in the 5th.
Update. Guerra with an opponent bomb…his 2nd of the night. 6-4 cal leads.
Update. Weber with a 2 run dinger and it’s a tied game. Big 5th inning for the Beavs. Weber stays hot!
This might not even be a super regional team at this point as much as it hurts to say
Absolutely pathetic
^^^ absolutely pathetic lmaooo
Did you ever think those two words could become onomatopoeia.
Sounds like it’s time for another bowling night, eh Mitch?
Beaver baseball is in trouble. This team has horrible pitching, and they don’t have the “it” factor, and they are not clutch. This team is opposite of a Casey coached team. Where is the heart, the passion, the resiliency, the discipline and the hatred for losing? They are definitely not a top 10 team! They better pull their heads out soon!
They can’t just hit the “on” switch for both intangibles and major skill areas of pitching and defense.
What sounds consistently like a lack of emphasis on pitching and defense is just stoopid. Why wouldn’t he want them disciplined and strong in all areas?
If you watch practicer they emphasize hitting and hitting bombs that’s how the lineup is set.
Canham and coaches can’t teach the discipline of fielding so they go to hit. Problem being you can’t control hitting as you fail 7/10 times and if you make the fielding mistakes or aren’t getting strike call you help the other team.
In years past mistakes on defense would have cost your spot in lineup. Giving up stolen bases shows lack of discipline or desire to have goods catching.
Live by the homer, die by the homer.
Mitch Canham: “Homer” Simpson….
For perspective, Duke’s hoops team is being gutted by the portal, and fans and media are all over it.
So yes, they would do it to a men’s team… as they have always done.
Dookies don’t understand why their players would go play for some middling program, instead of staying at a hoops blueblood.
It’s about money, people.
And they are still preseason top 5 right? With only 3 guys left on the roster and the top high school kid in the country coming in the fall. College basketball is as broken as college football. Not many kids are willing to stick with one school for 4-5 years anymore and it ruins the following, and product.
Anyone at the spring game? Go to the yard sale? I hear there are some smoking good deals.
My buddy just got back and said he got some good shit but that it’s crazy there.
Heard that too…and lots of stuff for our larger friends, 1X and 2X
Are we talking Columbia 2X, and not Nike? I swim in a Nike, and I can tuck in a Columbia, because they make them long enough.
For the larger Beaver in your life…
Number “9” jerseys for $9. Or best offer…
Sorry, not taking your 9 jersey even if you pay me $9
It’s not like the circular file doesn’t exist.
I’ll take their $9.
I like that McCoy’s favorite target so far is a WR with the number 28.
Watching the broadcast? How are they looking?
Montiel looks good. I always liked his game as a slinger, but he looks really comfortable in the pocket with his reads and gets the ball out fast. He makes Reddicks look good , when TR put a foot in the ground for YAC.
McCoy is more of a slinger, but he mangages to connect on short reads or under pressure. He has a tendency to retreat by stepping up in the pocket, whcih works when there’s space.
Does anyone know what happened to Gulbranson?
He’s hurt, but was on the sidelines in uniform and seemed to be having a good time.
Card at PR, apparently.
The D is just outplaying the O, for the most part, but it’s not at the line, except for a play or two. The LBs and safeties are playing well together, forcing the QBs to work hot routes, which they are ready for.
Hankerson has quick feet and good hands. Jam likes to run downhill. Newell looks big and fast, but seems to go down a bit easy. Then again, there aren’t many missed tackles, except to push a play outside to pursuit that’s actually there.
It’s hard to watch Caufield with that number and him just lumbering down the field and think it’s not Joe Newton.
I knew who had the ball before I saw his number.
Joel Valadez looking like Julian Edelman out there.
Really nice hands and feet in tight spaces.
Thanks for updates!
Trent Walker #28, is an in state player too….
Some perspective for all those telling us how bad Beaver baseball sucks:
1. Only 4 teams in the country have less losses than the Beavs
2. They’ve played a good chunk of the season without McDowell, Caraway and Kasper. 1/3 of the starting lineup
3. On average only about 4 national seeds survive to Omaha so saying this team won’t get to a Super or win one is really not going out on a limb or as all knowing as you think you are.
He’s just here for the attention.
Safe to say that the passing game has a very long way to go.
Run game look ok?
Either that or the defensive line is not good
The lines looked like they were playing 3/4 speed.
Baseball is flat again today. 1 hit thru 3. Down 2-0 to Cal. This team isn’t very good on the road. Got a bit of the Wayne Tinkle going on apparently. Anyway, lots of game left but hasn’t been a great game. Seem out of it mentally.
Learned through sauces today Canham on the hot seat. They were counting on this year to help with the PAC issues and it’s not going the way they wanted.
“…hot seat.”
Jump the gun much?
I’d believe trusted sources rather than sketchy sauces. Not buying it. Go back to your duck blogs.
Just because you don’t like or believe something is about the ducks.
You need open your eyes there more to the world the beavers and ducks.
Yet all your comments are about one from the perspective of a troll from the other.
Go figure.
If you played the better odds in this troll, you would have guessed that Mitch is talking to other schools about a pay raise. That’s much more likely to allow your troll to end up in i-told-you-so territory.
Actually if you knew anything you know that he will probably go back to MiLB as he can’t coach. This way the higher ups tell him how to manage the team.
But that just shows your lack of knowledge.
Can you translates this into English, please.
This is just a mish-mash of words.
Are you truly that stupid? Guess you are the hidden duck
Sometimes, it’s just too easy.
I see that Bilodeau has committed to UCLA. There’s a photo of him surrounded by all of the championship trophies. I had to chuckle, I think there are better odds for Mick Cronin getting fired than the Bruins winning another title. It would have been more honest if Bilodeau had posed with $100 bills. Granted it’s a definite upgrade over Big Tinks.
I don’t know if it has been mentioned here but Kwan is playing like the best lead off in the majors
Haven’t read the article on OLive yet but headline is pretty rough. “OSU spring game a disappointment if the Beavers want to remain relevant”.
Daschel’s paywall piece is the one you want to read if concerned about the performance of the team (hint: D looks likely to be close to recent teams, RB’s will make ya forget about DM, and there is competition at QB).
The piece Creek references is Oram trying to be cute and pointing out that the event was a missed opportunity to energize the fan base (like Phils Phools do).
Per Oram:
We didn’t get an attendance estimate from the Beavers on Saturday, but let’s put it this way: Trent Bray could have personally introduced himself to everyone there and still made it home in time for happy hour.
I don’t know that the Beavers lose a whole lot by not making their so-called Spring Showcase more of a can’t-miss event, but there is certainly an opportunity cost.
As usual at Oregon, style over substance
Oram’s piece was a lazy cheap shot. Why not do a real article like how much longer can Barnes put up with Tinkle’s performance?
“If recent history is any guide, rival Oregon will put 35,000 derrieres in seats next week.
We didn’t get an attendance estimate from the Beavers on Saturday, but let’s put it this way: Trent Bray could have personally introduced himself to everyone there and still made it home in time for happy hour.”
Meh.
Anyone following this game on PAC is hearing one of the worst announcers yet; the guy says Cal may regret not sending Lomavita home on the double by Green, Jr. Completely misses the fact that Lomavita fell down rounding third………they didn’t have the option of sending him after that fall.
Apparently, Bazanna was playing right field early in the game as the announcer had him tracking down a fly ball out there!
Reser has been a clear homefield advantage the past three years in the regular season.
Spring game attendance in the SEC and programs like UO is for the most vicarious of fans.
This Beaver baseball team probably leads the nation with the number of runners left on base! Up 7-5 in the bottom of the 8th inning, let’s see if this lead is safe?
There were about 20 different significant events going on in Corvallis today. OSU Open House, a bike race, Saturday Market, a book sale at the fairgrounds, Record Store Day, An Earth Day event, and don’t forget its 4/20….I mean any of these would have been THE thing in Corvallis on any other Saturday and they decided they should ALL happen today for some reason.
Passed over another significant event. (j/k)
MIIITCCHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Relief pitching and errors on the cusp of letting another win slip away. Runners on 2nd and 3rd. No outs in the bottom of 9. Beavs hanging on to a 1 run lead…for now.
Lost another game with the lead into the 9th inning! This team is done. No conference championship, no hosting a regional, no Omaha.
Time for a bowing night!
Go deeper for inspiration! Riley water balloon fights and sno cones! The “Aw shucks, we’ll get em next time!” approach seems more appropriate given the lack of killer instinct.
That 9th inning had every element of the flaws of this team, defensively and pitching all on display: 1 fielding error, 3 walks, 1 wild pitch, 2 hbp…so bad. Dorman should be on the hot seat soon with this pitching staff implosion. I thought the PAC12 was a weak conference this year but the pitching staff has made several PAC teams look like juggernauts on offense. Utah, USC, Cal all have feasted on OSU pitching. Beavs are in the mid season swoon, lost 4/5 and don’t look good on the mound or in the field at all.
Attendance was reported as 890 for the mid season swoon at Cal.
In line with the question, “Why even care anymore” gotta wonder if Goss will, one day, only host 890 fans.
Yep, intentional walk, hit batter to tie, then walk the winning run in. Anyone that can’t admit the bullpen is going to hold this team back from doing anything meaningful in the post-season needs to take the orange color glasses off.
Doh!
The d-cks are going to kill us! I don’t think OSU has ever been swept at home by them? This will be the first, I doubt we’ll even be competitive in the series.
The team that can’t sweep UCSB, Portland, Cal, Arizona, USC, or Sacramento State at home is going to do this?
Don’t look now but Arizona is in first place
That’s because the Ducks lost the series to Stanford… because their pitching sucks.
Not athletics related, but, went to the PRAx this evening…what a great addition to campus!
That venue is first class, tunable to the performers, the sound is amazing. Saw Ed Ray and Dr Murthy, didn’t pester them about athletics, sorry.
Good for you. I will be reading the article about it in the Oregon Stater. Perhaps Oregon State should just go the
Arts and Culture route. I like that Murthey frequently inserts sentences about OSU being a major research university confirming it with numbers.
What cost to fire Dorman? NOW.
And super computing…..climate futures analysis…
Sounds from Beavers Edge perspective that QB Johnson has the best throws across multiple levels, and a reminder he was a 4* in the recruiting class if Aiden Chiles…also good mobility, which is not a surprise.
RB room looks good. Lots if work to be dine bringing together WBs/Oline/receivers.
Secondary looking good, no Chatfield -type playmaker in front 7 yet…unfortunately poor S Julian did not participate, hoping for fall ball. He must have really wrecked his knee. Maybe someday he’ll be a graduate assistant for the secondary(?) someday.
Johnson was too hesitant in the passing game to even figure out his process. But he does have some wheels.
New Canzano article talks about the CW tv deal(which should be officially announced soon enough)
He mentions our home games will all be day time start times, and the CW network is free over the air TV that also has an app, so anybody interested in watching the Beavs should have the ability. Focus of the TV deal was exposure. Give as many prople a chance to see us as possible. Downside is, we may not want people to see us this year.
I may be in the minority, but I’ll miss the early season night games. A summery evening in Reser is great, but a hot day time game can be miserable if you don’t have a shaded seat.
And there’s always the issue of having our players standing in the sun all game in their sideline while the opponents get the shaded side.
(No paywall)
https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/status/1782077085496045939?t=wydR4C4YHUk1WvBhHyJdDA&s=19
At least we have some orange home uniform combos now, but I’m sure some of them will be black. We love to have every possible disadvantage.
Bee package has been installed successfully! GoBees.
It’s “GoBees!” and “GoBeavs.”
It won’t show as an E, and didn’t cause scoring damage; but that Cal triple in the b5 should have been an out. Miscommunication (lack of attention?) by Macias and Turley……….don’t seem to matter to Miiiitch, he’s focused on their HR abilities.
A lot caught looking strikeouts today. No way to tell if the pitches are strikes with the single camera angle. Beavs can’t get it together, better pitching today, and now the bats are going quiet so far except for Macias. I think 10 games are a decent sample size, Beavs are not a very good road team this season for whatever reasons.
Another bases loaded walk in the 7th. Cal regains the lead 4-3. Beavs bats have been quiet. Only 4 hits and 2 walks on the day. With this bullpen, we’ll need a 4 or 5 run lead in the 9th to hopefully avoid the sweep.
That won’t even be sufficient. This team gave up an 8 run lead in the 9th to UCLA last year in the PAC-12’s and their bullpen this year is even worse.
That was 2 years ago. Last year they didn’t make it out of pool play (losses ASU and UA)
Out #2 in the b8……anyone think Bazzana was irritated at how close the outfielder came when he (Bazzana) had called for the ball?
A sweep. How disappointing.
Oof. Let’s hope this lights a fire.
Would have thought that the meeting on the field after last nights embarrassment was for the purpose of “fire lighting”, but………..
Wow! This Beaver team has fallen apart. I now believe that Mitch and the coaching staff are the problem. This team does not have the right attitude.
Pitching staff has regressed, errors every game and not aggressive at the plate. A team that nose dives like this needs leadership that can turn it around.
I don’t see Mitch and Dorman being able to do it.
The wheels sure have fallen off the Beaver baseball bus!
Thread title: Why should we really care anymore?
Spring game crowd was terrible and the fan base is apathetic to the new squad and feels defeated.
WBB is decimated despite making the elite 8
Don’t even speak about MBB
And now, the wheels are coming off the baseball team as well. God knows what they’ll turn in to after the inevitable mass exodus occurs in the post season. It’s looking like our last few months of competing in power 5 college athletics will end in a whisper barring some massive turnaround by Mitch and crew
I’ve witnessed so many great and fun sporting moments since I’ve been at OSU and since growing up, but more often than not, OSU sports is just a continual game of either “close but no cigar” or “maybe next year we’ll actually have a winning record. Sorry if I just sound bitter, but this has just been so frustrating since the PAC has fallen apart. So much of OSU sports fandom consists of reminiscing about things that happened long ago that are considered pretty normal by so many school, like a single 11 win season in football 24 years ago, or some success in Basketball that never truly materialused into anything meaningful when it mattered in March back in the 80’s in the orange express. The list goes on and on. Of all power 5 schools, I believe only Wazzu and Virginia Tech have less championships than we do in D1 sports.
At this point, would it not be crazy to consider moving down to D1 FCS for football and the lower divisions for other sports? Be a big fish in a small pond?
I’ve always defended it against criticism, but at this point, spend it on academics. I can’t, in good faith, defend continuing to spend 10s of millions of dollars yearly on facilities, coaches, events, logistics, and NIL for kids who couldn’t care less about Oregon State Univeristy just for overall mediocrity. All of this money and effort spent on this school and it’s sports programs through out history, and all we truly have to show are 3 titles in baseball, intertwined with decades of mediocre or even terrible teams for most other sports.
College sports has gotten to a point where 6 million a year to coach your alma mater with essentially the base expectation year in and year out being that you go 7-6 and the school and fans are pretty happy is not enough to keep a coach around. I’m sorry but it’s exhausting. OSU sports is on life support, and after this baseball season, it will effectively be dead.
My last post didn’t age well. I apologize to those I called out. But I still believe this season can end well with everyone healthy.
Beavs have no lost 5/6 games.
How they respond over the next few weeks will be quite telling as to the metal of this team.
Baseball is such a mental game, the entire team could be pressing and it just starts spiraling.
The bullpen is in shambles and Dorman doesn’t have any answers. Every guy he puts in makes matters worse and now even Holmes is jumpy and gets a quick hook.
Trotsky is the only real OG type OSU infielder and all the rest are inconsistent when it matters most.
The outfield even got into the party today with a little league triple by not calling for a fly ball.
The whole team expects to mash their way to wins, series wins, PAC12 glory and Omaha. But each series they are being exposed as such a flawed team it is disturbing. Canhams moneyball approach with home runs won’t win as we all hoped.
The entire offense refuses to adjust swings to circumstances and the approach is always bat speed+launch angle= homerun or strikeouts.
It is tough being without McDowell, Kasper and Carraway but the guys who have replaced them are playing better than the mainstays of the lineup.
Is Bazanna a stat stuffer or a leader? Is Turley a leader? Who on this team is demanding more than what we are seeing?
Is there a guy who can throw strikes anywhere on the roster? I think the entire pitching staff embodies the concept “all American in practices but can’t execute in meaningful moments “.
Dorman did plenty of interviews preseason about how great these young arms were but he needs to answer for it now. Does his philosophy account for strike throwing with control at less mph? Does he look for those types of guys?
The biggest frustration is that this team has lots of talent and it looks to be actively flushing it all down the drain because the bullpen can’t keep a lead, and the hitters just swing for the fences without regard to situation.
On top of that, the more losses they get, the easier it will be for them to be disregarded and dismissed as another SEC champ gets the inside track to another national championship for SECESPN.
Perhaps it is a mid season swoon that they have time to recover from and get right with a big hot streak heading into postseason but I don’t see how 8 pitchers all of a sudden figure out how to throw strikes at an elite level if they haven’t been doing it yet.
Panic, overreaction, chicken little maybe a bit…
“Baseball’s a tough game. If you don’t play well, you get beat”.
-Pat Casey
That’s very true.
Still…Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch!
Caraway had the pins removed from his finger and will be back in a week or two.
Kasper and McDowell are just now coming back.
The pitching is what it has been all season.
This is just what college baseball has become.
We had this same issue last year, actually, right around this same. Think we lost like 3 straight conference series and a couple of the midweek match-ups. Could be remembering the specifics there, but we slumped hard for about a 2-3 week period. Was close to the bottom of the Pac standings. The major difference from last season is that the slump was primarily from the offensive side of the ball. I believe the team batting avg was below .200 for that stretch. However, pitching was actually ok until the last few weeks of the season when we lost a fair amount of games by giving up double digit runs.
What we’re seeing in this slump is the opposite. The offense has been fine…you should expect to win the majority of games where you score 8 or more runs but yet the pitching and defense are so inconsistent that scoring 8 or more runs a game isn’t getting you a win. The concern for this season’s slump vs last season, at least for me, is that we knew the bats would come alive eventually last year. What’s leading to the losses this time around is the defense, which has been bad all year by normal standards and we’ve already had more errors this season than last year. It’s also apparent that the lack of bullpen depth is the issue I’ve been saying it was from the very beginning of the season. We haven’t even really faced any of the “good” teams in the Pac and quality wins are lacking. I don’t see the defense getting magically better when it’s been consistently sub-par all year. We still don’t have reliable bullpen guys and RD has yet to prove he’s able to develop guys outside of Kmatz, who’s honestly been our best pitcher this season.
Baseball team is in the shitter right now!
Dorman has been an object failure with his inability to develop pitchers. They can’t throw strikes and excel at walking and hitting batters.
Well, if you’re going to walk and hit batters I prefer to do that with a nice high spin rate! Who gives a shit if you can throw strikes, we just want spin rate!
Show Rich the door…..man!!
Send a message. I loved it when Smith sent Timmy packing…progress followed.
One would think Canham would gave connections sufficient to develop a competitive candidate pool of pitching coaches?
Nah, it might hurt his feelings.
We have found the MAGA.
Isaiah Newell has entered the portal
Carter Nueman too at TE. We were already thin at spot so that’s a little interesting. Sucks to lose Newell. I thought he would’ve been a 1/2 punch with Jam. RB room went from the strength to a question mark now. Jam and the xfer from Colorado, a couple walk-ons and then the freshmen
Maybe Saturday’s poor turn out pushed them off the ledge?
Or they realized they werent likely to make the 2 deep. Cant imaging either was poached away by an NIL deal somewhere else
Newell 3rd string again…probably frustrating. Likely be Hankerson+Griffin with maybe Allah now poised for 3rd string?
….not sure about Neuman.
Soring game attendance was never in tens of thousands, can’t imagine that’s a factor.
RB room is a huge question mark for me now. Jam hardly played last year so his only carries were really from being here 2 years ago. Definitely has skill but was part of a 3 man rotation before. You’ve got Hank who has very minimal touches. Could be great, might not be. Who knows. Doesn’t really have the experience to look at. I’d also cool the jets on the 2 freshman being all-stars from day 1 as well. Very few backs are Jermar or DM right out of HS and those guys benefited from some top offensive line play. Totally different story this year.
Fresh legs are good for RBs.
They’re not bringing any injuries/rehab issues, and Jam is basically free from school.
Not saying the fresh legs aren’t a good thing but a lot of people are trying to cope by saying this is a deep ass RB room., etc and you have about 1300 total yds between the whole group, which has a senior and at least 1 junior in that group. Jam was great as a change of pace guy. Can he be the same with the RB1 work load? Hankerson has 650yds total offense in 2 years. Again, very limted tape. He could be good but he also got passed up by a freshman rb last year on a not good Colorado team. He could be a stud, but limited reps in 2 years so we’ll find out in the fall. We’re 1 injury away from having 2 walk-on players being our 2nd/3rd string guys. Even in a mountain west schedule that’s not even close to ideal.
It was really deep.
It will be a sensible number in the fall.
I’m thinking Hatcher and Allah will be champing at the bit.
That’s what I’m saying. It was deep with DM and Newell.
No. It was really deep.
Now it’s not really deep. It will be the norm.
Hank and Jam are both Power 4/5 starting caliber backs, potentially great ones. Newell could be as well he just needs to find the right fit and the new offense isn’t built for his game. Sucks to lose him cause he’s been such a great Beav/teammate, wish him the best and hope he gets a chance to be an RB1 somewhere. Nueman kinda sucks as I know they’ve been high on him and his potential but I also think he was a better fit for Judas’ scheme, so he’s probably looking to get into a more pro-style offense again as well as a fresh start as a graduate.
Jam looked good in the highlights I saw
The freshmen look really good. And Reichle shouldn’t be a walk-on.
Reichle Runs angry…love it when he gets reps. Plus it means Beavs are winning.
He’s unlikely to be #1 somewhere else, unless he goes DII.
Wonder if this is any reflection in new RB Coach Ford?
The NCAA Board of Directors have apparently officially stripped us of our P and given us a G
Really realigning that NC into our AA.
That’s just the conference itself. The schools retain autonomy by themselves, but the conference needs 7 members to do so as its own entity, with autobids and all that.
In order to keep autonomy, we need to continue providing a certain level of support for our SAs. That can happen as an independent.
Its odd – I was thinking about the formerly Pac-12. The Beavs and Cougs have it bad – no lie. But I don’t know how many of the other schools are doing cartwheels right now.
Colorado – lost a ton of players to the portal
Washington – lost their coach, QB and AD
ASU – Sanctions!!!
UCLA – Lost their coach
Cal and Stanford – ACC won’t be fun
Arizona – lost their coach
USC – lost their QB
Oregon and Utah don’t seem to have had too much turmoil, Sucks have a new QB and Cam Rising has got to be ready to retire (7th Season? You kidding me?)
I’ve always said I prefer a high octane great offense with an average defense versus a great defense and an average offense because you have punchers chance to come back and win – except baseball. Great pitching and defense is your main anchor that us generally consistent and can shut down a great offense. Your bats might go cold but you can rely on your pitching and stellar defense to keep you in the game and win it.
Yes, that’s precisely the case and even more so when you talk about post-season success. If an avg Cal team and Pikots team are putting up double digits against you each night then what do you think the best schools in the country will do when post-season comes around? Gotta be better on def3nse and find more than 5 reliable pitchers
I thought Holmes was reliable based on pat standards but no I’m not certain any of them are really qualified as reliable.
Segura may give you 2 innings before he gets clobbered. May is a Jekyll/Hyde inconsistent, Lmatz is certain to give up a homerun in every start. Keljo, Mejia both seemed promising but have regressed. Lawson is an oil refinery after the second batter, the rest of them don’t even stand out as serviceable because it is just a pile of failure by a bunch of guys who can’t throw strikes.
Dorman is quite replaceable and should be replaced. He has zero evidence of pitchers actually improving over time under his tutelage. Not a good situation.
Dorman=Banker=Tinkle
Coaches who can’t or won’t adjust to a changing game but are too expensive/embarrassing to remove…at least Gary Andersen left for us…
Rinse and repeat the life of a Beavs fan becomes the same story no matter the sport
I can’t stand the way baseball is played now! Bring back small ball with hitting and running, stealing bases, sacrificing runners over along with great pitching and defense. Whitey Herzogs’ Cardinal teams in the early 80’s were fun to watch! Everybody knew what they were going to do but they couldn’t stop them because executed so well. Helps that they had a bunch if jack rabbits that stole tons of bases.
Vince Coleman was a demon.
Yeah he was! Ozzie Smith and Willie McGee were pretty good at stealing bases too! And played gold glove defense. They really omput a lot of pressure on the defense with bunting runners over and hitting and running. Not to mention all of the stolen bases. Man they were fun to watch!
Maybe he’s already been mentioned before, but Ethan Kleinschmit is putting up dominating pitching numbers at Linn-Benton; 9 Appearances, 5-0 Record, 0.67 ERA, .67 WHIP, .148 Batting Average Against, 0 HR Allowed, 87K/9BB in 54 Innings.
https://athletics.linnbenton.edu/sports/bsb/2023-24/bios/kleinschmit_ethan_lgxe
Who’s their pitching coach?
This is the real question. As many pitchers as we take from the University of Albany, Lebanon and Corvallis you’d think their pitching coach might be worth a look! Lol
Way off topic but son turns 21 tomorrow and want to take him to best steak or other great food and drinks in Eugene but everything looks like national chains or shitty ratings. Any suggestions.
Thanks in advance. BTW Corvallis I would not have this issue.
Drive to Salem and take him to Rudy’s downtown. Everything is cut in-house (they have a butcher shop across the street). You can usually pop in and get a table with minimal wait. Coming from Eugene I’d call and make a reservation just to be sure.
George and Violets over in Springfield.
They used to be strictly a steakhouse, but they had to vary their menu since the pandemic, and they’ve not surprisingly survived.
Their rib eyes are excellent.
Bonus: No dress code. If you have money, you’re their favorite people. They are about the food, not the ambience.
I should have considered the tomorrow part.
They’re closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Not a steakhouse, but the ribs and beef rendang at Same Same are to die for.
DM doesn’t seem to be drawing the interest from big name teams that I thought he would.
It may be the worst look for a D1 athlete this cycle to say all of the things he said and then bail 4 months later. DM is trading a legacy for some agents lies and empty promises.
He should have gone to UO when he had the chance if he wanted exposure and legal marijuana.
I was thinking DJ should have gone to Alabama to get some tutoring under DeBoer and to have a strong Oline to give him time for his slow reads and progressions….
I think he was going to Miami the whole time. It’s his last stop on his official visit list. Using all the other schools as ways to drive up the price for Mario to pay him.
Is the 2023 OSU v. UCLA game, and the way UCLA QB Moore and RB Steele were used, a good indicator of what Gunderson might do with a Johnson & Hank/Jam combo? UCLA didn’t really take downfield shots, but Moore was TO prone, and the Beavers got decent pressure.
Beavs get their 2nd men’s basketball xfer. Guard from Southern Illinois University – Edwardsville which is part of the Ohio River Valley Conf. WT lighting up the recruiting trail and only needs about 6 more xfers to replace those guys that left! Good time to renew those season tickets to watch what’s sure to be an exciting brand of basketball next season!
Well Tinkle could do a lot worse than combing Ohio Division 2 colleges for talented kids who want a chance to prove themselves. A fair amount of them should be able to shoot decently and maintain some fundamentals beyond Christmas break. It has traditionally been the cutoff for when Tinkle recruits begin regressing under his coaching.
Train wreck incoming is a better way to market it. “It will be so bad you won’t want to look away!”
They won’t get a chance to shoot by coming to play for WT. The man is a true wizard at taking guys who seem to have some talent and can score and turn them into guys that will avg 6pts a game. I do like the train wreck marketing idea though. This is shaping up nicely for WT to earn that extension. Well, I’ve got new talent on the team and it’s gonna take time for them to gel and learn the “system”. Fast forward to end of season and another awful record, just rinse and repeat. 6 guys leave, WT finds anyone with a pulse, etc.
If anything, Tinkle is helping me learn the names of schools I never knew existed.
Travis Throckmorton has entered the portal.
With all of these extra scholarship spots opening and DMs leftover NIL money, Bray has some opportunity for bring in some talent at thin spots on the roster.
He looked the best in the spring game.
I haven’t watched it yet. I kept hearing people say Montiel looked the best, but hadn’t heard Throckmorton’s name yet
Montiel did look best. He came out and ran the script with confidence, so he was best prepared, as well. When the O had to work on the fly, they all struggled. But Montiel started using the option part of the read option and was making chunk plays with his feet, when the passing game stalled.
He looked best on two throws to Valadez.
Other than those two throws… meh.
What positions are in need? Tackle, receiver… what else?
Edge could use an add, dline looked a little undersized and not speedy as well
Well, I don’t know how many people we can add. I believe we were 8 over going into camp. If anything, we need another 5+ guys to xfer before we can add anyone. Think we’ve had 4 guys announce xfers in the last few days. Blitz was saying weeks ago they thought WR and TE would be the 2 areas they’d try and add first…then I believe O-line.
John Miller expected to hit portal per Beavs Blitz. I’m sure he wants to start somewhere but I thought he was the 3rd guy and would’ve gotten a fair amount of rotation. Homegrown guy too. That’s about 5 players now. Still believe we’re about 3 or 4 away from being at the limit. I’m sure they’d like to have a few more than that for some roster flexibility
Miller is starting to make the NCAA look like he made the OSAA look, when he was at Tualatin.
Also, baseball bus ran into a mechanical issue and the game is now scheduled to start at 6:05. Kinda ironic since the baseball team itself is a little broken down. Also, i believe it’s no longer going to be on ESPN+ but perhaps Portland’s CW? Suppose that means those of us not in Oregon can see it now?
It’s free on YouTube
Found it. Thanks!
Good Lord, Hamline puts the Beavs ahead 3-0 with a bomb and now the Beav pitcher has just hit the first two Pilots in the bottom of the sixth. How long has it been since this staff had a shutdown inning? BTW, this local broadcast is more than acceptable. How did they put it together so fast or what is what was going to be on ESPN+?
WT lands a high school recruit. JaQuavis Williford. 6’6″ small forward from LA.
I can’t link it but do a search for how DJ etc fared in Seminole spring game – it’s rather amusing.
Sounds like he struggled a little. I haven’t been following him after his “I’m going to the NFL”, bullshit until he realized he would be lucky to get picked in the 4th round. He probably would have received better notice tearing up Mountain West opponents this season than failing at FSU, but that’s his call.
I think it was his dad’s call and this is the last chance for cashing in on that 5 star rating from his high school days…because he isn’t making an NFL roster.
Yeah, I’m still getting used to the NIL aspect of these discussions.
I think he makes a roster because if his size, running, and arm strength, AND because there is always a coach that thinks they can fix someone with that much physical potential. If he can get a combine invite or have a great pro day and throw some 80 yard passes….
I don’t think DJ has the consistent mindset of a starter. Someone here pointed out last season he didn’t look like he is even enjoying the game out there, i had to agree.
DJ has learned how to become a likable politician/leader and isn’t really capable of winning in big-time situations. He has learned how to gain teammates respect and answer media with nice sound bites, but he is still a limited qb when it actually counts. He may make an NFL roster based on your qualities above. I still think his dad has been calling a lot of the shots for him since junior high, so he isn’t even himself in some respects, and it all seems choreographed to some degree.
Seems like it gets ignored, but DJU didn’t make the Beavs a better team last season. He certainly didn’t make Clemson better. Why in the hell would anyone think he would make FSU better?
Hunter opens the b6 by hitting the first TWO batters to come up. 3-0 Beavs, no lead is safe at this point.
Guess you gotta take it, Hunter’s line for 5.2 innings: 1 hit, 1 er, zero bb, 3 k’s, and 3 HBP, we’ve sure seen worse mound performances lately.
I just mentioned it above, but seriously how long has it been since the Beav staff has had a shutdown inning after they score? It’s becoming surreal.
Not the first time Bazzana has been involved in a basepath mishap.
Beavs are a discombobulated team right now. Feels like they could give this game away.
Spot on! Very nerve wracking team to watch, ya never know when the roof is gonna cave in with these guys…….and Miiiiiiiitch!
Team is playing like the Bad News Bears!
6-2 now, Pilot pitcher fell apart, but is this lead big enough? Beavs could have had a lot more. Another baserunning error and Guerra struck out with the bases loaded.
Oh lord. 7-2 lead for Beavs in 9th. First batter gets walked. 2nd batter hits a double play ball to Baz and he commits an error. New pitcher coming in. Zero outs. Runners on 1st and 2nd.
It felt a lot more shakey than a 7-2 win, but a win it is.
Yep, we’ll take it. Mundt was clutch! Good to see him be so reliable. Saving grace of the bullpen so far this season.
Team defense has become a joke.
I wonder what Pat Casey is thinking??
You wonder?
Me too.
Specifically, how would Casey be handling Bazzana? It’s hard to believe Mitch is dispensing the tough love that would make him an even better player and teammate in the long run.
Of all people, Casey knows that there is a lot more to being a ballplayer than HR’s.
How is Bazzana rated defensively anyway? I may be out to lunch, but I find his throwing motion a bit “lazy”. Is he considered above-average?
It’s crazy that a week or two ago we already had committed more errors this season than all of last season. Not to mention, while the defense was fairly good last year, I believe it was still a decline to past seasons. As we get further away from the Casey model and we’re truly seeing Mitch and RD guys, it’s apparent that we’re willing to sacrifice defense for the long ball and pitch control over fancy stuff like high spin rates. I’m sure that’s a major focus for the next level, but if you can’t control your pitches and throw strikes, you’re not making it to the next level regardless of what metrics you might have.
We’re currently tied for 8th place in the Pac for fielding percentage. When’s the last time we were in 8th place for our defense? Pitching k/9 we’re in 5th place and overall in 8th place for K’s. Even for an RD staff, these results are pretty low. We’re still in 2nd for WHIP but that gap has shrunk considerably and considering we haven’t really played the “top” teams in the conference yet, that number would figure to get worse unless several guys start to figure it out. We’re sitting in 3rd place in BB but we’re also towards the bottom of the Pac in innings pitched.
Dylan Lopez has hit the portal. Too bad. He was one of the higher rated OL we’ve had in the last several years and I assumed he would be in the mix for reps this season, especially with how often injuries happen to lineman. Even if he wasn’t a starter, he’d likely be at some point due to injuries. O-Line was already a place where the staff wanted to beef things up so this one definitely hurts.
Sounds like he couldn’t crack the 2 deep rotation.
He was high rated at the Center position, but the scale for centers is pretty skewed since there aren’t many HS recruits who get categorized at that position.
A 4*/5* center would often be a 3* player at any other OL position.
I think it’s time for the NCAA to go to wood bats.
I know it would be like clawing someone’s eyes out, to try and separate schools from their endorsement deals with the three or so manufacturers out there. But I’m sure some wood bat makers could step into that funding role.
Honestly, I think the manufacturers should be signing endorsement deals with the players themselves. I think shoes should be the same. The school has no right to take that money and force SAs to comply with their decision without their input.
But it’s just time for wood bats. The aluminum make the game hard to watch–hard to listen to, as well. I sort of like the summer leagues more, just because of this. There’s a lot more situational play and fielding opportunities, instead of watching a mash-fest with empty bases all game.
Disagree, I used to think that but now I prefer College baseball being the pinnacle of metal bat baseball.
I didn’t think a lot about it until I saw nothing bush mashball.
Frankly, home runs are a little boring, unless they’re at a crucial point in a game. The P doesn’t have to work out of the stretch, and the D can position themselves according to the batter’s tendencies, instead of paying attention to a runner.
It just gives me more to watch than a jog around the bases.
https://sports.yahoo.com/how-the-new-college-football-playoff-format-came-to-be-and-what-it-means-for-the-sports-future-165149801.html
Future looks brightly bleak but the ACC and Big 12 will be in good company. Espn bidding the most by a wide margin is an interesting sign and it was vastly under what was predicted. There’s always private equity waiting in the wings for those biggest schools to get even greedier, especially if 9-figure payouts were floated.
We are in the bread and circus era before it all crumbles. Lots of distraction, and false hope for many schools not yet aware of their coming demise that will leave them in a worse spot than OSU/WSU.
I will watch 0 CFP games. I will watch 0 B!G or SEC games.
I actually wish the B1G and SEC would just create their own playoff.
Let the other conferences return to the far superior Bowl model.
But college sports are probably just gonna slowly die off while some leagues partner with the NFL and become pro teams that happen to represent a school.
It’s all dumb now. I can’t even find interest in the baseball team. I just do not care about college athletics anymore. Wish OSU had never wasted millions on an unneeded stadium that will be half empty most Saturdays by 2030.
A G5 playoff is being proposed backed by private equity also.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/group-of-five-playoff-being-pitched-by-derek-dooley-financially-backed-by-private-equity-firms/amp/
Men’s Basketball gets another commitment from Parsa Fallah, a Forward from Iran who played at Southern Utah. Tinkle has a nice Div 2 roster coming together! Keep this up, and we might be able to not finish last in the WCC! I kid obviously, but we’ve got to be glad to not be playing a real P4 schedule next season. Think he still needs 4 more guys to be even with the players that left. Maybe some of those guys stay had it not been for conf realignment, but even then, this was a really bad basketball team and there’s nothing to think that they’d have fared any better next season.
Yeah, it seems like that is just “we are desparate for a body” get. But they also landed a good guard in Demarco Minor and a nice HS small forward in Ja’Quavis Williford. However, Tinkle consistently blows it with solid talent. So, does it really matter? Probably not.
Primary concern is that Tinkle has 0 offensive scheme and can’t develop a big man…so even the “good” talent will be wasted. Secondly, the college guys they’re getting are from low tier college ball so while Minor did avg 15pts a game, how will that translate to better competition and being in Tinkle’s “system”? Perhaps these xfers will be able to handle the lower level of MCC competition ok, but it’s hard to imagine anything less than an ass-kicking from the likes of Zags and St Mary’s. Maybe I’m blocking the trauma of this team over the last 3 seasons, but I don’t recall WT having much luck with the xfer portal…guys didn’t work out. Maybe Dexter Akano? Calloo to some extent but most of xfers the last few seasons are already gone.
It’s a blur so I don’t recall if the team that flat-out refused to play was recruited or portal. No matter, they literally quit and I couldn’t understand why they weren’t sent packing. I noticed in Daschel’s column that some decent teams had interest in Ibekwe. Hard to believe. I checked to see if there was a new assistant mbb coach but Reveno was still listed. If Tinkle stays the year, how much does his payoff drop?
There was an assistant hired. Don’t recall his name but it was announced a day or two ago. As for WT payoff, it ain’t happening any time. Best we’ll be able to do is let him go part way through his last season. He’s got the most comfortable gig in all of sports. All he needs to do is just show up and do the bare minimum for his contract and he’ll be golden for 2.5 years.
It’s on the mbb page now. In-house promotion. Probably no money after Tinkle gets his.
Did I read correctly that Willford is a top 200 player in the nation? That seems like an impressive get for Tinkle, maybe the opportunity for immediate playing time. But as noted by many, Tinkle tends to screw up these gifts.
Supposedly 195. A high 3 star per 24/7 or whatever. Offer list wasn’t super impressive for some reason. Beavs and Oklahoma State were the only P4 schools. 24/7 shows he only visited UNLV, Beavs and Saint Louis so perhaps the other offers weren’t that serious? Some of the other schools were Cal Poly, cal state Fullerton, long Beach state, San Jose state and several others schools in that same mold. Oregon state might’ve been his best option based on the offer sheet.
I would have gone with the Billikens, if that’s the list.
I also wouldn’t mind having their new coach.
Today is DAM Proud Day, time to pony up y’all, give to your favorite programs, put your money where your mouth is…
Looking at current tallies for programs I’m interested in:
Program Current giving #of donors
Football 14k 39
MBB 6k 20
WBB 26k 87
Baseball 32k 88
Honors College 35k 68
Forestry 45k 46
Marching Band 7k 43
PRAx 10k 10
As an aside, can we give Hankerson the nickname Toast?
I want to refer to our backfield as Toast and Jam.
Hear me out. Instead of “Toast”, why not “Jelly”?
And then when somebody asks which running back just ripped off that long run, you can reply
“Must be Jelly, cause Jam don’t shake like that”
RIP Benny Hill
Ahh! Just beat me to it!!!
“toast” if hank burns defenders…
Does he have some “shake” to him? If so, could be “Jelly.”
“It must be jelly cuz jam don’t shake thataway!”
-Glen Miller Orchestra (probably taken from old blues song)
I’m familiar with both references, but I went with Toast, because then I could imagine a scenario where he breaks one off, and the crowd chants, “TOOOOAAAAST,” in unison.
Then the player who whiffed picks himself up and asks one of his teammates what the crowd is chanting, and the teammate says, “They’re chanting Toast.”
Besides, I think Toast Hankerson sounds better than Jelly.
Martinez on the list:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/04/24/college-football-transfer-portal-best-players-available/73355162007/
Hopefully he has a shit season!
Totally not bitter….
Reggie Bush getting Heisman back because of current conditions in NCAA sports..
“…the Heisman Trust, which administers the annual award for college football’s most outstanding player, is set to announce that Bush’s trophy from the 2005 season will be officially reinstated and returned to him given the “fundamental changes in college athletics,” including the ability for college athletes to now profit off their name, image and likeness.
…
“We are thrilled to welcome Reggie Bush back to the Heisman family in recognition of his collegiate accomplishments,” Michael Comerford, president of The Heisman Trust, told ESPN. “We considered the enormous changes in college athletics over the last several years in deciding that now is the right time to reinstate the trophy for Reggie. We are so happy to welcome him back.”
So, it wasn’t legal 19 years ago, but because it is now?!?
SMU is on the phone…
Given lawsuits against the NCAA don’t look promising for schools having to pay back former SAs for lost opportunities, he could very easily sue the Trust and win. Even the legal fees would hurt enough to try and avoid them.
Quincy Wright in the portal. Another guy who I thought was going to see decent playing time this season. I know we brought in a few DL guys but I think the guy from Houston wasn’t able to make it work right? I don’t believe I see him on the roster. Several of these guys in the portal aren’t one I wasn’t wanting to see.
OL Jason White is also in the portal as of today, according to the 247 database.
Ouch. I line depth is not good. That’s two o line guys today.
They might have someone in mind at OLine. Hedberg at Blitz mentioned they were expecting 1 via portal. Also, he’s reporting WR Trevor Pope entered the portal too. Getting closer to that 8 number. If they’re wanting to add, I assume we should expect at least 4 more.
Daschel’s count is 10 portal entrants since the April portal opened.
Most were guys who never or rarely played, other than Martinez.
Saw we have a grad transfer DE visiting soon, plus offered another DE tonight, so that seems to be a position theyre focused on
Oh, good to know! There might’ve been a few that haven’t hit social media then. I haven’t been following his tracker…just the stuff I see pop on X. If it’s 10, then I think we are under the limit now. Might still be more people to go if they want to add and then maybe even keep a spot or 2 open for later on.
Waiting for the next announcement-“Kyle DeVan has just entered the portal.”
I think I might enter the fan portal if athletes continue to leave OSU at these alarming rates.
Eh, this is the norm for football now. We were at least 8 players over the allotment heading into spring ball. It’s a chance for guys to make their case to be in the mix. Maybe some thought they’d start but find themselves on 2nd or 3rd string and figure they can start elsewhere. Several of the guys xferring I thought would get a lot of play time so was little surprised to see guys like Miller, Wright and Lopez hit the portal since my assumption was they’d be at least the 2nd string guy and especially Wright at DLine, getting a lot of rotation with how much that position platoons. But your point is valid with how much a roster turns over in all the sports. It’s not a particularly fun time to be a fan. Be hard pressed to want to buy any player merchandise. Used to think the generic #1 jerseys were lame but now those are the ones to buy. Lol.
This. The guys that are leaving could have been told to go just to get under the 85 limit. It happens all the time.
A few guys to maybe keeping an eye on as potential transfers:
RB:
https://twitter.com/iamcincov/status/1778934500099346528?t=QEyZYbruMcTdtberApBAiA&s=19
DE:
https://twitter.com/joshgriffis_/status/1777416542050734476?t=hpovM12RoTDU7kIWx4hERA&s=19
https://twitter.com/Cherif27_/status/1743347724110405956?t=EXzQDa-stvb-GSNXNJZ43Q&s=19
TE:
https://twitter.com/GGenross/status/1734721488362635754?t=d0tarKix9aZVJdI8FUq5QQ&s=19
First guy listed is a DE, not an RB. (Though his name is RB)
OSU really should build more supercomputers and grant access to national labs/engineering firms for a monthly fee. They would make an unbelievable amount of money. The only issue would be the electricity demand.
They should fire up that mini nuke plant on campus.
They have a “mini nuke plant”?
https://radiationcenter.oregonstate.edu/oregon-state-triga-reactor-0
You went to Oregon State ya?
A TRIGA reactor is not a mini nuke plant lmaoooo
Have you never heard of Kirk Nevins?
Kirk, Kirk… I don’t know no Kirk
His letters to the editor in the G-T about OSU’s reactor were legendary.
Corvallis is gonna be Three Mile Island, dontcha know?
That’s disappointing, considering TMI didn’t kill anyone directly
I think it’s more of a testing platform then a real working nuke plant. It’s part of the engineering dept if I’m not mistaken. Someone on here might know more about it then me, all I know is there is or was a small scale nuclear energy device on campus at one time.
That didn’t take long.
If Adley, Steven Kwan and Trevor Larnach all keep up what they’re doing now, all three could make the AL All Star team
Beavs basketball gets another commitment from a JUCO guard Isaiah Sy. Played at Cloud County CC. Good size at 6’7″ if the graphics are showing correctly. Taller than the forward that just committed the other day.
I hadn’t realized this until recently, but if you subscribe to ESPN+, that does not mean you get access to ESPN’s main channel.
I had recently decided that it made no sense to subscribe to Disney+ and Hulu separately, since they had a separate bundle package that gave you Disney+/HULU/ESPN+ for a lower total price.
Then the other night, I tried to watch a game on ESPN, but it wasn’t available.
You only get the garbage games that are deep in the ESPN+ nether regions.
Might be nice for the baseball offseason.
Yeah, lame that it doesn’t give you the normal ESPN channels but I have that same bundle you have. Had to use the ESPN+ a few times for Beavs games if I’m not mistaken but otherwise, isn’t super useful. I suppose, my younger self would’ve really liked access to all the sports on there but as I’ve gotten older I don’t watch a ton of live sports outside Beaver games and college football.
My bees built comb in an empty brood box that was just there to surround the feeder. I scraped off the comb and tried using an inner cover to shrink access. Anyone know if that’s correct? I’m concerned they’ll go back up there and don’t want to use an entrance feeder. This was the best I could think of. I’m guessing since the hole is so small now they won’t go back up there and build…?
Sam Vidlak back in the portal, 4 schools in 4 years, should turn out well
Clearly a guy for whom expectations aren’t aligned with reality
Sam Mason Jr is in portal. Defensive back
Didn’t he just transfer in?
He was at OSU for two years. Maybe you’re thinking of Mason White?
Fuaga goes to the Saints at 14th pick.
Nice
The down-voter is a bad human.
Who is their QB? Do they have a decent offense? Are they competitive for a playoff spot?
Derek Carr
Of course they are. They play in the shitty NFC south
I just read fuagas draft report. I didn’t realize he only gave up one sack his entire career at OSU. Crazy.
Deep OLine draft, 3 chosen ahead of him.
I think Nix (few down field throws), Maye, and Penix (injury history) were reaches. Not necessarily bad picks, but just should have been later.
But then i thought Herbert would struggle going from no snaps under center at Oregon to the NFL, and he’s put up good numbers.
Nix is a bad pick, he’s gonna be terrible. I wouldn’t have picked Nix in Round 3.
Penix is a foolish pick, who uses the #8 pick on a 24 year old QB that won’t see the field till he’s at least 26? Insane pick.
Maye has potential but bust is the most likely outcome.
Of the 3, Penix is the only one I think will be a decent pro but he’ll spend 2-3 years sitting behind Cousins which makes zero sense.
And he had 2(?) knee injuries and a shoulder injury in his past….i like the way he throws, but i would have thought late first round or even second. Late first round implies you’ve already got a competitive roster and maybe you can afford to take a bit of a chance.
Wasn’t there a concern about him being left handed and how it affects the rest of the offense if the other qbs are all right handed?
Some coaches don’t like lefty QBs but most don’t care as long as they have the arm talent.
And Penix has as much or more arm talent than anyone in this draft.
The last time a draft had that many qbs taken in the first round how did that turn out….I think Lawrence is the only one still starting.
Yeah, but you also have 1983 when such a draft produced 3 HOF QBs (Marino, Elway, Kelly), a 2 time Pro Bowl QB (O’Brien), and another that took his team to a Super Bowl (Easton) and only one true bust (Blacklidge) so you never know.
I think Maye and Nix are likely busts, the other 4 will likely find some level of success.
i am a broncos fan i knew they were picking nix 2 weeks ago Denver is not a good team it would been better to trade down build up the OL/DL then pick the qb in 25 Peyton thinks he is drew brees he is mac jones
These qbs go in the first round today mainly because they are deemed “plausible NFL starters” but mostly because of their cost certainty for five years. Prior to the rookie salary cap, it was rare to see more than two qbs go in the first round because a) if you picked a dud it would kill you with the cap hit. Now you can miss and choose another after two or three years, no big deal. Some of these first rounders would have been second and third round guys before Sam Bradford’s contract brought in the rookie cap.
Bradford was just in the right place at the right time. The NFL opted to play the 2010 season without a salary cap, in a decision made in 2008, because the CBA was expiring in 2010. His contract was because they wanted a cap and draft payment schedule. It wasn’t the reason it was installed.
Why care anymore?……..Maybe because of quality people like Scott Rueck. Check this from Dam Proud Day; beginning around 2:43:30 for about eight minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfQizFDIMXo
Ahh, Fuaga tape is so fun to watch:
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/reactions-taliese-fuaga-drafted-14th-by-new-orleans
Referee(s): “Rag dolling. # 75, offense. 10 yards from the previous spot. Repeat third down.”
I was hoping the Packers would get him!
Sucks that Coach M left, but he deserved a big pay raise.
Dude was like the 9th or 10th highest paid line coach in the nation. He was at 1mil a year here.
Dude made $775,000 during the 2023 season. He’s now paid $1 million.
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant/2811
Damn I could of sworn he was making that here last season. Guess not.
So weird to me that almost all of the departing WBB players attended last night’s WBB banquet. Comments I’m seeing elsewhere of those in attendance said it was quite awkward.
I hope they gave all the awards to the players that are staying.
Maybe they’re all going to announce they’re taking their talents to…….Oregon State University!
Just wanted to get some free travel in during the offseason
Perfect troll of the ESPN types who buried OSU throughout. It would be an epic troll to see the entire team return after entering the portal in a classic example of exposing the media bias and creating a greater awareness of OSU sports. Too bad it isn’t very likely.
Someone, please explain. They announce they are in the transfer portal. Spring term ends mid-June. They are still on campus finishing the term? I hope scholarship and Nil immediately cease?
Scholarships for football, hoops, and volleyball are for the whole year, guaranteed. It only stops when they are no longer enrolled.
They played their season. They’ve earned it.
They are only required to honor the scholarship for the current semester they are in once they enter. Entering the portal means you are forfeiting your scholarship.
WTF!!!!!! Loser Pac 12 network cant cut away from a meaningless beach volley game to show Civil Fucking War Baseball????????
May having a day! 9 k’s on the night and 1 hit. At 84 pitches after 6 so might not be in for much longer. 2-0 Beavs from a solo home from Kasper and one from Bazz
May, with 98 pitches, takes the mound for the t8. 2-0 Beavs.
Anyone satisfied with the situation?
May having a great outing but ya gotta wonder if RD will leave him in too long.
Error #2 by the team that is LAST in that category in the PAC. Pressure mounts on May at 107 pitches.
May at 114 pitches. Does he come out of the game now? He’s been lights out but man, that pitch count is getting up there.
holmes in for the 9th
A win’s a win. Credit May with a terrific outing! One hitter! And only 1 bb all eight innings pitched
Still, nothing like the Beaver Baseball we’ve longed for; 2 errors, baserunning mistake late in the game, inability to bunt……plenty for Miiiiiitch to work on.
Yeah, no bunt with turley at second and no outs was confusing.
Macias tried and failed. First one he missed and 2md attempt went foul.
It’s not like they didn’t try
Eggers up with an extensive piece highlighting Dorman’s crew and mentioning the error rate this season.
Sample: “Really, it’s up to the whole stinking bullpen to start pitching to their capabilities,” Dorman says.
“Jaren likes to hit guys for whatever reason,” Dorman says with a laugh. “Some of our righties with good sweeping sliders have hit left-handers. Bridger’s sliders sweep good and sometimes they come inside. That’s the nature of the beast. It’s not like we have a game plan of ‘let’s hit somebody.’ Jared sinks it, and sometimes it hits people.”
https://www.kerryeggers.com/stories/beaver-pitching-has-been-good-but-could-be-better
Freeman in the O, regarding Wasikowski’s request to have the umps check Aiden May’s glove, says he has “employed similar feeble tactics more than once this season…”
And:
The ridiculous request backfired, May turned the subterfuge into motivation, and the ninth-ranked Beavers rode his dominance to a much-needed 2-0 victory over the 22nd-ranked Ducks Friday night
“Feeble”, “Ridicuous”………………………….sounds like a typical ‘uck
BTW, didja see that Kelly Graves has his house on the market?
I remember the post-gam crap from last season’s non-conference game. I’m calling it Wasikowski is officially a little bitch!
Only 2 bored Duck lovers on this blog? Figured there would be more.
Anthony Gould just got picked by the Colts in the 5th round
Anthony Gould to Colts in 5th round. Good for him.
Great for Ant, but sucks that slimy agent (same guy as DM) gets a payday out of it.
Kitan Oladapo to Green Bay in the 6th round. Good opportunity for him.
Correction 5th round still for Oladapo.
Dmart to crisco…hope u gets paid now
He was always going to Miami, his agent (who is from Miami) was negotiating a deal with them. Used his other visits to drive up the price. I’m guessing he got it up to somewhere between $1.5-2 million for the year.
For a running back? Good for him. I hope that can help him get out of his problems.
Beavs likely win more games than Super Mario and crew but wins don’t matter as much as exposure etc to this generation of kids apparently.
Hope he manages his money wisely because it may be more than he can get for another 5 years in the NFL. NFL running backs aren’t getting paid like they used to.
His agent gets what 10-15% of that NIL deal? The whole system is broken when these slimy characters are whispering to guys all throughout the season and lining up transfer schools with money offers.
Bray needs to call out this guy and ban him from all contact with OSU players. At some point the majority of coaches should figure out a way to push back on this stuff by simply not signing the guys out of the transfer portal. Too many players and not enough chairs left to sit would make some impact after a few years of it. Probably a collusion lawsuit right?
I don’t see the Beavs winning many games next year. Unless they can pick up some solid portal guys to fill gaps and the QBs exceed expectations, I only see 6 wins, 7 at most
You overestimate Mario.
You only see 7 wins as the ceiling?
IMO this is how the schedule is looking post spring (assuming no starters hit the Portal in the next few days):
Likely Wins:
Idaho State
San Diego State
Colorado State
Nevada
UNLV
San Jose State
Air Force
Likely Losses:
Oregon (Winnable at Reser. Yucks D looked decent and good at key positions, but not great overall in their Spring Game.)
Toss ups:
Purdue
California
Boise State
I know the media really hated on the Spring game (slow, small, “missed opportunity” at a marketing spectacle), but I really didn’t see that at all. They split the teams up as a team-building exercise but they were focused on position battles and giving guys in the 2/3 spots an opportunity to push for the 2-deep. The guys that have hit the Portal are all guys that didn’t quite get there even though they played well (Miller, Caufield, etc).
Comparing it to past Beaver spring games, the team didn’t look nearly as ready to compete on the national level as they did last year with DJ coming in and re-loading off of the 10 win Vegas Bowl season in 2022. But, they also didn’t look nearly as down as they did during the GA years or in JS first couple Springs.
The biggest let down for me was McCoy. He just didn’t look good and like he’s struggling to adapt to the speed of the game mentally. His footwork was all over the place in the pocket and he missed several open guys or just didn’t make decisions fast enough even at Spring game speed. But, DJ didn’t look great and got outplayed by Chiles and BG in the spring last year, so it is what it is. We’ll see.
Gabarri looks very talented but raw, the TD throw he made to Walker out of the pocket off his back foot while evading pressure is arm talent and athletic instincts you simply can’t teach. He could be a real one, just don’t know if he can do it as soon as this upcoming season.
The Defense and high-energy team culture with Bray is going to carry this season. The D looks ready to put up Top 25 production and is fully capable of stopping everyone on the schedule enough to win, whether they’ll figure out how to produce enough points on the Offensive end is the question.
I think the offense will be atrocious. OL, QB, TE, and WR groups are below average to bad. RBs are ok but very little depth. D will be top 50 but far from top 25 IMO. I’d bet SDSU and Air Force are losses plus Ducks, BSU, Purdue, and Cal. Half the other games are toss ups. This teams is going to struggle
Pessimistic take, but I get it.
I think the OL and RB groups are stronger than you’re giving them credit for, especially against the bulk of the schedule.
The starting OL didn’t play together at all during the spring with some not on campus yet and Gray sitting out, but those who did play didn’t play badly at all. By all accounts the OL had a great spring getting acclimated to DeVan and they’re looking to add more in the Portal.
Hank, Jam, and Riechle doing his best Mike Alstott impression is a good and deep RB room. Allah and Hatcher are likely to get in the mix as true Freshman coming in. Navarrete and Haines can handle the scout team reps. Could see them adding a contributor in the Portal.
The downfield TE reps are going to be dominated by Terry and Caufield (I mistook him for Neuman earlier). Terry looked improved and they both played well throughout the spring. Caufield played outstanding in the spring game, both receiving and made some great blocks. Milbourn and Jensen can provide depth and extra blockers when needed and they’re looking to grab another contributor in the Portal.
The WR room is unproven, I’ll give you that. But Walker is a great route-runner who understands the game and how to get open. Noga with his length is a matchup problem in the slot. Card is a speedster that can take the top off the defense all on his own. Wells had a bad drop in the spring game but played well and like he was ready to step into a starting role throughout the spring. Clemons talent is off the charts. Jordan Anderson is already on campus and acclimated well as an early enrollee for the spring and will likely contribute as a FR. Jamai East, Tastean Reddicks, and Montrel Hatten Jr. all look like they’re ready to contribute. Malachi Durant arrives on campus in June and could play as a FR. Losing Valsin for a good portion of the year sucks but it’s looking more like he’ll be back for some of it. Overall there are some questions but I’m not down on the group as “below average to bad” more “average with the potential to be good/great”.
QB is a big ? because we don’t know who’s going to emerge as the starter and backup and what that will look like, but even BG is capable of being a game-manager in this offense and making the correct reads and getting the ball out quickly. This offense is not at all dependent on having an NFL ready QB to be productive like Judas’ system was, it’s an entirely different vibe around how the offense is designed to function. The running game will look different on the surface, but in large part be much the same. Outside and Inside zone all day. We won’t see the same kind of deliberate passing game where we’re trying to isolate a particular matchup at the line of scrimmage and deliver an NFL caliber throw to downfield and intermediate routes meant to stretch the field vertically, instead you’ll see the receivers seek to create space from boundary to boundary and the QB with only 1 or 2 reads before getting the ball out of his hands, with way less finagling with audibles at the line of scrimmage trying to get the most ideal 1-on-1 matchup like we’re used to in a Pro-Style system.
I get the cause for concern on offense as they’re going through a transition and it certainly looked like it, but I actually came away from the Spring much more optimistic than I thought I would (aside from McCoy at QB).
We’ll still win the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball for most games.
I see 9 as likely if we play to the strengths of this team. 8 wins in the regular season and a bowl win, because we’ll be paired with an inferior G5 in the bowl game.
“…the TD throw he made to Walker out of the pocket off his back foot while evading pressure is arm talent and athletic instincts you simply can’t teach.”
It takes instinct to flip it 10 yards to the guy whose defender fell down?
Also, Caufield isn’t in the portal. You had me worried for a second.
Can you throw a ball on rope with the flick of your wrist while jumping off your back foot evading a large human lunging towards you? Even as 5’11* human lol. I can’t. Most people can’t. I mean “athletic instincts” in the same way Saban does. You can teach guys technique but you can’t give them the gifts to be able to have eye-hand coordination to be able to do the right thing at the right time naturally. Gabarri shows that just in how he moves on his feet. Am I wrong in assessing that while inexperienced and raw that he shows the greatest talent and ability in the QB room from what we’ve seen so far?
I know Caufield isn’t in the portal, I had brain-farted and mixed his name up with Neuman. I corrected myself above. Neuman likely hit the portal because he saw he wasn’t gonna take reps from Terry and Caufield. Same with John Miller behind Jordan, Chisom, Sullivan, and Goodman. My point was that the guys that have hit the portal are guys that didn’t break their way into the depth chart after spring, which is normal, and not a doomsday exodus scenario.
I’m not as nimble as I once was, but I play hoops regularly, and passing the ball in various ways, on or off balance, while evading people bigger than me is just second nature.
Shit dude get out there I’m sure you could get cleared through the NCAA clearinghouse with all the litigation pending.
lol… someone needs to sue the NCAA for eligibility rules constricting older students from having an equal opportunity to exploit this market.
I will even make donations to go toward my NIL agreement… I think.
*restricting
We also need a real Offensive Coordinator.
Can agents be banned from contacting players? Perhaps they could be banned from campus.
No way that’s qb money.
Ward got at least $1 million from Miami, probably closer to 2.
Let’s say he started the bidding war at 500k when he visited Arizona. They probably went up to 600-700k?. Then he went to Miss State, which he wouldn’t have done if they weren’t offering more, at which point UK and Tenn got out of the race when they didn’t want to match. So yeah, it wouldn’t surprise me if he got the final offer upward close to $1 million or higher, especially since Miami really wanted him and convinced him to get in the Portal in the first place.
Well that’s a big difference than 1.5-2mil. I would guess it could be close to a million.
Just guessing/spit-balling, could be way off. It just wouldn’t surprise me if they got into a bidding war with Arizona/MissST and drove the price up beyond 1.5 million. Miami is not being conservative with NIL.
If he could get even a million no way he was staying in Corvallis for 400k. My prediction is 600. 200k more is still a great chunk of change.
Weber batting cleanup tonight.
Joe Swen (db) in the portal. He was always threatening for time, just couldn’t make it happen. Best of luck to him!
Fuckin’ ESPN. Just turned on the baseball game and the graphic going into a commercial break shows the Ducks ranked #9 and Beavs #22 rather than the other way around.
I’m not a conspiracy guy, but it was weird. I’ve watched hundreds of college football games over the years on ESPN and have never seen the rankings reversed like that. It does make one wonder.
ESPN2 reverses rankings and shows OSU #22 and ucks as #9.. Game tied at 1 bottom of 5th.
That is provable intentional subliminal messaging. No way the old excuse of “we just get confused with those schools from out west” works after all ESPN does to promote the ducks.
Eagerly Sucking Penis Nightly
I love how they added striping patterns to the new turf at Goss. It looks so much better. A nicely striped ball field is one of my favorite parts of a day at the ball park and it’s nice we can have that even without real grass
Nothing like fake lawn-striping on a fake lawn.
This ump sucks!
How about that; a double, sac bunt to get Kasper over to third, and Trosky puts the ball in play……result a run to make it 2-1 Beavs going to the t8
No HR required.
Beavs win
Dorman for president?
In the two games his arms have 29 k’s, 2 bb, ZERO HBP, ZERO WP, 4 hits, and 2 runs.
Definitely been a great 2 games! It’s not been the top 5 guys though, outside the small blip last weekend. Next 2 games will be interesting as we’ll definitely be using the 6 on down dudes. Some fantastic performances though by May, Mundt, Holmes and Kmatz for sure!
Yup, it’s likely to take more than 4 or 5 runs to win the next two games.
Great to take the series over the ducks. Now go for the sweep!
In the majors, Adley hit another homerun and Kwan stole home.
Great day to be a Beaver
I just wanted to say how happy I am to be wrong! I honestly thought the Beavers would lose this series to the d-cks based on losing 4 out of 5 games the previous week. This weeks Beaver team is winning like how a Pat Casey coached team would win, timely hitting, pitching and defense. Let’s go for the sweep tomorrow!
Despite being in 3rd place in conference (1-1/2 games behind UA and 1/2 game behind Utah) Beavs are still in good shape to host with an RPI at 11.
Highest RPI of any west coast team at the moment. Next 2 series are at WSU and host UCLA. The 2 teams at the bottom of the conference standings. Finish the season in Tucson and that series will probably decide the last conference title.
As of right now the Pac 12 looks like a 3 bid league at most.
UC Irvine has a low 20’s RPI is would likely be a 2nd west coast regional host (if there is one).
As jekyll and Hyde as this team is? All is not lost. However will take some luck to get to Omaha imo.
Go Beavs
Free agent signees:
Ryan Cooper Jr. (CB): Baltimore Ravens
Deshaun Fenwick (RB): New England Patriots
Omar Speights (LB): Los Angeles Rams
Riley Sharp (TE): Baltimore Ravens
John McCartan (Edge): Baltimore Ravens rookie mini-camp invitation
Jesiah Irish (WR): Seattle Seahawks rookie mini-camp invitation
Still available: Andrew Chatfield (LB), Joe Golden (DT), Isaac Hodgins (DT), Calvin Hart Jr. (LB), James Rawls (DT).
Sure feels like Speights would’ve had better draft stock if he stayed put in Corvallis.
It wasn’t play, he never had the speed to be anything more than a productive college LB, people on this board thought he was a 2-3rd pick last year, that was never going to be the case, late round/undrafted at best. Glad he got paid
Yet he’s faster than comparable LBs taken in the early rounds of this year.
Nobody said he was a Round 2 guy last year. There were some mocks who had him at 3-4. But most ranged from 5-7 or UDFA. With another year like he had in 2022, he would have been a solid mid-round pick and more mocks would have put him in the 3rd… given he would have been invited to the combine as an All-Conference player. The biggest weakness in his game here was his coverage. Not sure what he did at LSU, since I didn’t watch any of their games.
Instead, he got Housed. And now he has to work to prove he can do anything.
you are right, I went back and re-read prior posts, I exaggerated rounds 2/3. I was always in the 7th/undrafted camp and you were much higher on him than most.
When I said “Speed”, I meant as he didn’t have the great range/coverage abilities, but his lack of coverage abilities makes him a 2 down LB at best and those players don’t get drafted. MLB is the defensive version of RB, it is devalued in modern NFL because of so many Nickle and Dime packages.
It is devalued, and I didn’t consider that.
But he could have gone somewhere where he could correct his deficiencies and be a solid depth and ST contributor. He’ll need to do it more, now, given the grass was not greener.
Maybe it’s just me, but Riley Sharp seemed to fly under the radar the whole time he was here. Happy that a good organization like Baltimore picked him up. With Cooper and McCartan also signing with them, the Ravens must have a scout who pays close attention to the program. McCartan has been my favorite player since I watched him as a gangly freshman continually stick his nose into the pile at a Spring Game. He’s always had a knack for being around the ball and hope he gets an invite to the teams pre-season camp.
Bbel reporting dom p taking name out of portal
That would be excellent! If they could get Beers back too, that’d be awesome
Pay them!
Bbel??
https://bbel.org.uk/ ?
https://labs.wsu.edu/bbel/ ?
Googles not helping here
“Beavers Behind Enemy Lines”
look em up on facebook
That’s what I get for being young and not having Facebook smh
Wow. Baseball shitting the bed today. 0 hits. 3 errors. Down 6-0 in the 6th.
And at least one uncharged error.
Bazzana doesn’t seem to have his head in the game (or, he’s trying to do too much). failed to get a routine out at first by spending time checking the runner going from 1 to 2. Along with slumping at the plate, he doesn’t seem to be leading the team as earlier.
Am I wrong?
Well I’ve thought that for most of his career. He doesn’t strike me as an instinctive player like Madrigal did. Bazanna has more of a mechanical/book learning style of play doing everything but not with ease of motion. I’m surprise he was being touted as the 1:1 pick.
But add Turley, Guerra, Krieg, Hainline and Weber are all not hitting, plus McDowell, Carraway and Kasper have all been injured it doesn’t help.
The best consistency for the last month has been Macias, Reeder, and Trosky. Not ideal
Yup, I did a double-take when I saw Guerra’s batting average now. Thank God for shut-down pitching in the first two games. They were ripe to be swept again.
I thought the “best offense in OSU history” would light up their Sunday pitcher?
At least they took the series…
Have fun traveling in the “B10” duckies…
Anyone who said this might be the best offense in OSU history is delusional. It’s not even top 5
That’s why it’s wise to wait for the end of the season to compare. Injuries and slumps happen. Even individuals can be affected, like if Bazzanna ends with a torrid pace, but suffers in RBI and run production, if those around him go cold.
Nike screws up MLB uniforms too!
“Nike was at fault for the flawed Major League Baseball uniforms that drew criticism and ridicule when they were fully unveiled this spring and issues with the uniforms will be addressed no later than the start of the 2025 season, according to an ESPN report Sunday.
ESPN, citing a memo distributed to players by the Major League Baseball Players Association, reported the changes will include larger letters on the backs of the jerseys, fixing mismatched gray tops and bottoms and addressing Nike jerseys’ tendency to collect sweat.
Complaints from players included new pants being see through.
Nike was at fault for the uniform problems and Fanatics, the manufacturer of the uniform, was not to blame, reported ESPN.
“This has been entirely a Nike issue,” read the memo, according to ESPN. “At its core, what has happened here is that Nike was innovating something that didn’t need to be innovated.
…
Any stalemate over the uniform debacle appears to have ended.”
“innovating something that didn’t need to be innovated”
This could be Nike’s byline.
“A solution is search of a problem”
Women’s basketball gets a xfer commitment from freshman forward Lucia Navarro. Played at Florida State. Don’t know much about her…only played in 5 games for 3 min per ESPN. 1 down, 6 or 7 more to go
Have any of the girls that entered the portal committed to another school yet?
Talia to USC this morning
And Beers to Oklahoma this morning too
Dang, well so much for getting Beers back. It was a pipe dream but was holding out hope! The men’s and women’s rosters are having to dip into the international waters quite a bit. Not necessarily a bad thing, but perhaps that’s the role we’ll have to play. Find international players that maybe aren’t well known or “worth” it for other programs to offer, then they can xfer out in a year or two after we’ve developed them.
I would want to keep both, but Gardiner would be my first pick every time, if I was picking teams on the playground.
There’s also a Czech big from ISU in the portal. If Dom is staying, does she have connections?
Oklahoma? Lol, it almpst certainly has to be about money now. Why go to a middling school in the SEC?
Beers is making a mistake and it is sad. TVO is sounding pretty silly when she hypes USC, program, coach and sending players to the “W”. So ridiculous that everything TVO says about the USC prospects were more so true if she had simply stayed at OSU. SO dumb, short-sighted and hypocritical. The athletes are losing before the even know they have lost, but have people in the ear telling them they will win big.
Gutting an elite 8 team of all underclassmen talent to go to a team with all unproven underclassmen and touting the possibilities is a garbage move. Perhaps TVO just wants to play second fiddle to Juju so she doesn’t have all of the pressure on her?
Beers choice is startling….WTF.
TVO should get exposure playing w/Ju Ju….
courtship (no pun intended ) is fun, but i thought Beers/Gardiner/Hunter might look around and appreciate how good it is/was at OSU…
TVO got her first job out of college.
We should be happy for her.
USC will probably trample the B1G next year. The B1G was probably the fifth strongest conference, and most of that strength is now in the WNBA.
oh gawd – Oklahoma after so far spending her young life in the Pacific Northwest? I thought she was in the mix for uconn but they don’t need to play the money game.
It does seem random, kind of an insult to Rueck also. They were a tourney team, but nothing impressive. Some idiot on Twitter was saying she’s going closer to home. Really?
Ummm, isnt Beers from Colorado?
It does make sense in that regard considering Oklahoma is a helluva lot closer than Corvallis.
Probably took the highest offer that was closest to home
I was being somewhat sarcastic, but where she’s from in Colorado is a different world than Norman, OK. I doubt that was a big factor. If you’re homesick go to the Buffs and dominate the Big 12. SEC competition might have been a bigger enticement. Be interesting to know what the NIL is like for someone of her status. 50K?
Considering the #1 pick in the draft only makes $76,000 per year, I don’t blame these girls for trying to make every dollar possible while in college.
That’s not how this works.
She’s going to be making the same money she does now… plus a salary… plus an apparel deal with Nike, which wasn’t allowed in school, because the schools/coaches steal that money.
No NIL deals she has now will just go away, now that she’s on a bigger stage. That would probably result in some companies receiving some backlash.
I thought the connection with Beers to Oklahoma was a WBB assistant that left after the season ended and went there.
Phew, I’m sure glad the OSU WBB banquet didn’t interfere with her USC visit this weekend.
From 2022 news story about Navarro signing with Florida State:
“Navarro possesses a strong inside-out game with a sweet left-handed stroke from the outside. She is part of the Valencia Basketball Club and has established herself on the U18 Spanish Team. Navarro’s versatility includes being able to play multiple positions and defend several types of players.
In her U18 league, Navarro is averaging 14 points and 11 rebounds per game.
Navarro is playing for Paterna in the Spain LF-Challenge League, averaging 3.9 points in 13.7 minutes.
“It is so exciting to announce the signing of Lucia Navarro,” Wyckoff said. “Lucia is a versatile athlete who will add great size and physicality to our small forward position. She brings the ability to score at all three levels as well as defend multiple positions. We can’t wait to have Lucia in Tallahassee next season.””
https://communitynewspapers.com/featured/womens-basketball-adds-two-talents-from-spain/
Sweet! PAC AND National pitcher of the week!
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/04/oregon-states-aiden-may-named-pac-12-and-national-pitcher-of-the-week-after-brilliant-outing-vs-ducks.html
Mathias Malachi-Donaldson hits the portal. Was hoping to see him get after it but perhaps he’s too much of a tweener size wise for the defense now. Maybe that means the edge visiting this weekend (or maybe it’s next weekend) might be leaning towards the Beavs.
Didn’t realize Mathias Malachi-Donaldson hasn’t played in two years.
Of the 13 that left, inly Martinez has signed elsewhere so far….
Didn’t realize Mathias Malachi-Donaldson hasn’t played in two years.
Of the 13 that left, only Martinez has signed elsewhere so far….
I believe they liked his athleticism and edge ability but he needed time to bulk up so perhaps he never could get to a viable size. He might’ve been part of the Tibesar defensive mold if I’m not mistaken, so they might be needing different type athlete for the Bray/Heyward scheme.
It seems like he was hurt a lot because I seem to remember him in street clothes a lot. Shows how important recruiting is and how flawed the ratings are. I figured he’d have a bigger with all the olb that left but must still not be able to break into the 2 deep.
Steven Nelson a free agent:
“8. Cornerback Steven Nelson
The well-traveled cornerback could be playing for his fifth team. But Nelson, 31, is an experienced corner with 13 interceptions and 78 passes defended in 130 career games.”
Finally got to see the baseball team in person this weekend for the first two games. Lots of observations,
Crowd is relentless vs the umps. Major props to the umpires for never flinching.
Onto the games,
Opposing teams are going to attack the Beavs with a lot of off speed. Seemed to me, that 50/60 percent of the pitches from the starters were off speed. Beavs didn’t hit those pitches hard and there were more than a few hangers.
Infield defense is not that good and it’s everyone’s fault. Bad throws and inability to pick the low throws. Trosky needs to be the full time at SS and Hainline at third until Caraway returns. Guerra needs to stay at first and Krieg to DH.
Weber is the better catcher right now.
May showed how dominant he can be. Now can he do that two weeks in a row?
Kmatz changed something from previous years and it wasn’t velo. He was getting a lot of swings and misses on what looked like very hittable pitches. Must have changed something in his release because the hitters were not picking it up well out of his hand. Mundt was the same. Didn’t seem like increased velo but he got a lot of swing and misses.
Bridger is a pitbull. Susceptible to hang one when the slider isn’t tight but is always in attack mode.
Seems like an overall confidence issue is moving the team. At home they looked very comfortable and very loose. Will need home field in the postseason to advance.
Wow this is bad. About the only thing close to right would be the Trosky /hairline observation. But to bounce hainline to 3 would be the biggest mistake as then you will want him to be perfect at SS when Caraway comes back.
Weber was getting pulled in the 9th as they finally figured out he can’t really hit. Fans were on umps because Weber couldn’t get strike calls, especially when Meggers was. Weber BA is under .175 on wknds. He can only hit midmajor pitching.
Krieg is the better defensive 1st baseman the Guera. Guera needs some time on bench he is not top 5 hitter right now. He pressing and won’t get help from coaches.
Dallas batting when RH throwing and reader playing on LH is about the smartest thing they can do. By the sounds of it Micah aways out because he aggravated injury again. Hoping by PAC tourney but no guarantees.
Kmatz mainly added velocity but working with Dorman and Smith is not trying to strike out guys as he was starting the year. He getting strikes outs now as he is back to using velo only when needed.
Bridger needed to get back to confidence in his slider which he started to Friday.
Yeah, Bill! You really suck.
It’s like you’ve been watching OSU sports for two minutes, and baseball for only one.
Take it from ^^this^^ unironically named guy.
Bill n Jack must be same person since they think the same.
Neither have very high baseball IQ but they know everything about OSU which is laughable
Probably the wrong hill to die on.
Jackie do you ever offer anything constructive or that makes any sense outside your head???
Be nice to get McDowell back but I think the best outfield we have is Macias, Kasper and Turley. Kreig has definitely cooled off but has been good at drawing walks. Seems like once Caraway and McDowell are back, that Kreig might be the odd man out of any DH rotation. Don’t see Mitch sitting Guerra so you’ve got 4 outfielders likely rotating DH opportunities. Hope Trosky sticks around thru next year. He’s a definite starter quality player and has always been solid defensively.
D1 Baseball has OSU at #12 in RPI, but they’re only 5-7 combined against Quad 1 & 2 opponents, 28-3 combined against Quad 3 & 4. @WSU, UCLA, and @UoA are the last remaining series. If they win the WSU & UCLA series, and avoid getting swept by Zona, they should be in a good position to host. But, they’d probably need to at least win the conference tournament, if not the regular season title too (beating UofO midweek would help also) in order to be a Top 8 national seed. Wazzu and UCLA are so low in RPI though, that a Top 8 seed might be out of reach.
So what your saying is the SEC fix is already n and we will see 1 west coast site and 9 SEC sites plus a few sprinkles in for ACC and the Texas schools?
Well considering……
Utah is currently tied for first place.
The Pac-12 is 7th in conference rpi and behind such juggernauts as the sun belt and big east.
Pac 12 baseball is a joke this year. The fact the Beavs have 8 losses in 20 games is appalling.
Not defending the sec here but there won’t be more than 2 regional hosts in the west.
Didn’t Utah win the P-12 tournament the year that Meggs screwed the Beavs out of the post-season? Damn, Utes! I could see the Beavs screwed out of a regional host slot with the weak SOS. At least Meggs is not around!
There was no pac-12 tournament prior to 2022.
Utah won it outright in 2016 at 19-11
That’s right. I was too lazy to go to their website. I do remember their success was out of left field that season.
I’ve seen blurbs here and there that Chokelahoma stole Beers by stealing Chatterton.
But I haven’t seen anywhere that Jonas is leaving, except in some forums pointing to a Chokelahoma message board dude.
I just looked at the photo’s posted for the new WBB commit and he’s in the group photo, rumors must just be rumors.
It’s probably true. Those rumors usually are.
This is the company that bought the Arkansas mbb team.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/30/tyson-foods-toxic-pollutants-lakes-rivers
That’s obviously scare-mongering.
371m pounds is really only about 170k metric tons.
And 168k is less than 371m.
It was also on a Notre Dame forum, and they talked like the source was a Mhov3r-type who gets stuff right sometimes.
He could have very well spoken to many schools, given he should be up for a HC job in the near future.
saw an announcement from the Dam Nation NIL that they’ve brought the guy who runs the Digital Dam Twitter account into their organization.
seems risky, the guy is a polarizing figure among the fan base
I don’t really get why people have it in for that Digital guy…looks like he’s done more to raise funds and awareness in his short time running that account than most anyone bitching about him. lol. Regardless, he seems to be creative and definitely has a handle on the tech side of things which is probably a good thing since we aren’t going to be able to rely on an Uncle Phil to throw tons of cash at us so we can buy rosters to stay relevant. Dam Collective will need to get creative and embrace “new” things to help fundraise and build awareness. I do think he should pull back on the trolling engagement with the other trash fan bases to be a little more professional if he’s going to be involved with the NIL.
I think it’s the trolling and engagement with trash fan bases that has people rolling their eyes at him.
Yea I have mixed feelings about it. I really appreciate the energy and his sense-of-humor that he’s put into Digital Dam and it has made a difference for the Beavs on social-media, but at the same time the trolling and engagement farming he is usually up to is often excessive for me, but I’m glad somebody’s doing it because I know that’s how a lot fans interface. The commentary in the spaces is often pretty low football/sports IQ, so a lot of their takes on the roster or re-alignment rumors and that kind of thing has really missed the mark for me, but to each their own, is what it is, appreciate their efforts.
I’m not super stoked about him being an “official” representative of OSU Athletics or DAM Nation as I don’t really want a guy that is known in the social-media verse as a massive engagement-farming troll in that position, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s going to be shifting how he does and what the Digital Dam accounts role is now that he’s moving into an official role with DAM Nation. Could be a big positive just because of how active he is on social-media, or a big negative if his personality/sense of humor is a big turn of while representing the collective in an official capacity. Fingers crossed.
Men’s basketball gets another commitment from a xfer center from Wake Forrest. Another international player, originally from England. Tinkle’s squad looking like the United Nations. Anyway, he’s a Jr who has mostly seen back-up responsibilities. 2.3 rebounds in 10 min avg play time this past season.
Bizarre stat, Marsh went 80 for 92 from the field his freshman year. Was a part-time starter as a sophomore with about 6 pts and 4 boards. Tinkle needs bodies, probably promised him more playing time.
oh, guaranteed that’s the play that WT has to be giving. We lost 8 guys to the portal…we barely had enough bodies to keep a roster. Most those guys that stayed weren’t even scholly players. Hopefully these guys can work out and be competitive in the WCC but WT doesn’t have a good track record with xfer guys turning into anything. Half of them are gone after a year or injuries/academics keep them from playing. Gotta be a tough sell for WT…”We have been relegated to a G5 conference. 3 awful seasons in a row. I’ve won 24 road games in my 10 years here. We’ll feature multiple 5+ minute scoring droughts and 10+ losses each season by 20 or more points. BUT, I can offer you playing time since I only have 5 guys on the team.”
Don’t forget this one too- “My teaching style is kryptonite to fundamentals and sound offensive schemes so you can be sure that your career will be over or you will get to have a nice story about your comeback story at your next school after you transfer away from OSU.”
I was a little off on his stats. It was his sophomore season. He went 83-94 from the field, 88.3%. Had some nice games against top competition. Not sure what happened during his junior year, that would be the question and probably why he is transferring.
Another possible reason for the transfer would be the British guy who just joined WT’s staff.
i do think WT is embracing the foreign players more than ever now. He’s always dabbled in them but we legit have at least 3, maybe more, foreign guys on the roster. This new coach is supposed to have those international ties. Is there some issue with non-US players not being able to capitalize on NIL or something?
Foreign players means no NIL.
Sorry… clarification:
Foreign SAs are here on a student visa, not a work visa. So they can’t earn anything while here.
I’m sure there are workarounds, like paying their parents to “manage” your charitable giving in their hometown, or some such nonsense. But with all the hassle that comes with just getting a visa, taking those chances would be a huge risk.
Hilarious – wanting some background radio, I went to a Joe beaver podcast. I think MP, who adores WT, was interviewing the new assistant and talking abt how well WT ‘develops’ “the bigs.” I switched to opera.
Travis Bazanna just hit his 21st homer of the season to tie Big Jim Wilson
Followed that with a missed opportunity to end the b2 before ducks score a 3 run HR. Parker hasn’t called it an error, but the livestat feed said “e” immediately.
5-4 Beavs, on to the t3
As good as Bazanna is with the bat he is not good in the field. His error just cost beavs 4 runs.
Never watched a Beaver team that strikes out this much. And this is vs. average pitching. Combine this with
below average fielding and we will be lucky to host a regional.
this is a mid-weed game that means something. we need quality wins
Yeah but they have got a homerun in 27 straight games so Mitch is happy. He knows the long ball wins games in analytics and stats class.
This team can’t field with any consistency and it is going to drive old timer Beaver fans crazy. I bet Casey and Bailey can’t even stomach the product being put on the field.
Wow, this is embarrassing. We are making ucks pitching staff look really good. Don’t know if I’ve ever seen 9 strikeouts in
a row. Beavs at bats are not even competitive.
Dorman is an idiot to send Hunter back out. Is he even watching the game?
after our top 5 guys, it’s pretty dam sad. anyone that still thinks we’ll be making runs in the post-season with only 5 pitchers you can put on the mound needs to embrace reality. it’s unfortunate that we still haven’t seen any development this far into the season
This is going to get ugly. Beavs have no swag and look defeated. Leadership is lacking. Hope I’m wrong but ucks might step
on beavs throat and make this really embarrassing.
Ducks now up 7-5. Hunter is not even remotely competitive, he looks like he is throwing batting practice. And how the hell does a team strike out eight times in a row without putting one ball in play?
this is like the 3 week slump this team had last year. unfortunately it’s happening in mid-season vs early on like last season. hopefully they snap out of it soon
Third pitcher coming on for the ducks to start the 5th, he’s got a 13.5 era. Suppose Beavs can score now?
But, he’s only pitched 2.2 innings.
Beavs are in the processing of losing the third game this season where they have hit a grand slam. That just means they have no killer instinct and don’t know how to keep opponents in a defeated mindset, or their bullpen and coaching staff really stink along with horrific fielding habits that give away runs like a bank teller hands out
Like clockwork the Beavs score runs and the pitching staff give it right back next inning. This team isn’t very enjoyable right now and it is frustrating to watch them flush the season by losing winnable games.
We know they will be sent to LSU or Arkansas as soon as it can be justified by the committee.
Fucking fuck!
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MIIIIIITTTTTTCHHHHH
Gas Can Lawson is in to put the game out of reach. Dorman should be fired for this pitching staff debacle. So bad and predictably so at this point.
Tinkle = Dorman, both excel at ruining talented athletes
I must admit, Oregon State Gas Cans has a nice ring to it
As much as we usually get discounted and underrated in other sports, we are definitely benefiting from the reputation of Casey teams still in baseball. This is not a top 10 team.
We are getting worse as the season goes on. We can’t make routine plays. Bazannas error costs us 4 runs, Hainline doesn’t get the error but it should have been. Beavs have struck out 10 times in 18 at bats. Beavs are not playing like a top ranked team. At the rate they are regressing they won’t be ranked much longer.
Another frustrating thing to think about: Given the changes to the way college sports work now, I feel as though this baseball season is really going to likely be the last season in any sport in which we might have any realistic chance at winning a national championship. I don’t see any of our sports ever having even a modicum of a chance at a title after this year, not that the chance was big before all of this stuff happened anyway.
Beavs almost made 1 inning without striking out. Almost
First out of the t7 made at third by Smith trying to go to 3 from 1 on a ball up the middle by Bazzana…….THIS WHILE BEHIND BY 4 runs!…..somewhere Casey kicks his dog!
Blasphemy!
Pat Casey would never kick a dog.
Wow, this team just keeps showing how they aren’t very good. Stupid base running error by Smith.
Mitch has this team going the wrong direction.
This team has so many problems with basic strategy and execution.
Every detail needed to be great, they cannot execute with any regularity:
Baserunning
Fielding errors of every sort
Wild pitches
Lack of bunting
Lack of sac flies
Lack of moving runners over
Walks allowed
Hit batters
Basic defensive catching and framing pitches
Wild swings in key at bats without any effort to adjust
So many things that Casey taught this fan base through the years of excellence it is glaringly absent and frustrating to see how much the program is different. This doesn’t seem like winning baseball
Lackadaisical, no fire, no leadership. Does not seem to matter that they are being beaten by their rival. Past Beaver teams would
fight and never get embarrassed. This is not a well coached team. I also wonder if they have any players that are leaders.
At least this one doesn’t count towards conference standings like the weekend series did, correct?
It will be used against them
In seeding for regionals and likely cost them a hosting of super regional, assuming they could get out of their own regional.
We need to be prepared for them to be sent to Vanderbilt or Arkansas or LSU for the regionals because it is more likely than hosting at this point.
Don’t think we need to worry about being sent to LSU. They are 7-14 in conference and in danger of being left out of the SEC tourney.
LSU maybe not this year but it has happened 3 times in recent memory I think so you get the point. Miss St or Auburn or Florida or any number of other SEC/south region sites where OSU won’t win.
That doesn’t mean they won’t get a regional, and we won’t be sent there… you know… because it always rains in the PNW.
2 seed incoming
At this point, I’m worried about getting a bid let alone a 2 seed. This team has the potential to lose most of its remaining games.
I suppose UO had “more” motivation at home after just losing a weekend series, but damn, Football and Baseball going out on weak notes in last year of PAC….
Will any baseball coaches lose their jobs?
Time to check into George Fox coaching staff…
Bought into the pre-season hype from all the “experts” but before the season started I posted several of the concerns on this team and they’ve really struck home these last 3 weeks. The glitz and glam of high power offense sure is fun until you get into prolonged slumps at the plate. Then you need to rely on good pitching to get some wins and outside a handful of guys, we don’t have the pitching. My concerns were primarily around pitching leading into this season, but I wasn’t expecting the defense to be so bad as well. The errors and mental mistakes on defense are really enhancing the lack of hitting over these last few weeks. We have 2 starters in May and Kmatz that have been very good for most every start. You’ve got Holmes and Mundt who have been great outside a few pitches vs Cal. However, after that…I don’t know who you have any confidence in. Segura started strong but as teams have had a chance to catch his tape, he’s not been nearly as good compared to his first 3-4 starts. Hunter is hot and cold. Has had a couple of good starts, like last week, but otherwise has been pretty bad.
Conf stats:
Segura: 26 innings. 6.84 ERA and a 1.48 WHIP
Keljo: 15 innings. 4.7 ERA and a 1.57 WHIP
Oakes: 10 innings. 3.48 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP
Hunter: 9 innings. 3.0 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP (conf stats are much better than his mid-week starts. ERA close to 5 and 1.45 WHIP)
Hutcheson: 4 inning. 5.79 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP
Everyone below Hutcheson has 3 or less innings in conf play. Lawson with a 13.5 ERA. Palmer in 2 innings has a 22.50 ERA. Despite getting some decent work in the pre-season, we haven’t seen either Mejia or Reynolds in Conf play. Neither were good in the innings they’ve collected but considering the rest of the bullpen that has seen conf action hasn’t been good either, it’s a little surprising that we haven’t seen them at all. The only pitcher that was available this year that’s out now due to injury, that I’m aware of anyway, is Lattery.
Our best success in the conf series so far has been the games where May/Kmatz have been lights out and only Holmes and Mundt have come on in relief. That’s not sustainable and seems very unrealistic to be enough to carry them even to the Supers, much less Omaha. This offense needs to get hot, stay hot and hope we can win the 10+ run games. Struggling in the P12 play, in a down year for the P12, doesn’t bode well for post-season success.
It’s like I said in the beginning:
It’s Indiana winning the B1G handily, then losing to Dallas Baptist in their regional.
It’s also like football, in that if you ignore one of three phases of the game, any game is up for grabs.
May and Kmatz figuring something out gives me some hope, but I’ve been waiting all season to see it. So we have to wait longer, just to say we have consistency.
Angry: bees n’ baseball!
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Glad to finally see Angry’s getting his 15 minutes of fame
Gardiner to UCLA.
Men’s basketball gets another xfer. Tyler Cochran. Guard. Started his career at Northern Illinois, went to Ball State and then spent the last 2 years at Toledo. Glad WT is getting some bodies, although, I think the portal is now closed. I think that he grabbed 3, maybe 4 guys in the portal and we had the 1 HS commit. Not sure how the basketball dates line up, but we lost 8 or 9 to the portal and gained 4 or 5. Can he add more from HS prior to season starting? Seems like he’s short 3-5 guys from having a full roster.
The Portal window for BBall (3/18 – 5/1) is just the time period when players can enter the portal, it doesn’t mean they have to have transferred to a new school by the end date. They can transfer any time after that up until the academic term at the start of the season.
MAC defensive player of the year. 14 pts per game, 2 steals. Seems like a legit addition, what’s the catch? He does only have one year of eligibility remaining. Does he know the Beavs aren’t in the P-12 any longer?
No catch. The dude was living in Toledo.
I don’t know the truth myself (or care enough to look into it) but Daschel’s article today about this latest addition said we lost six to the portal and have picked up six so we’re now back to 12 schollies for next season.
New thread up.