We’re at a super tricky part of the schedule. Back to back road games vs mid-tier programs in possibly hostile environments. Some altitude acclimation, etc. If the Beavs get through these games, we’re going to have an incredible ending to the season. Smith seemed slightly more conservative after watching Lanning’s blunders. I hope that continues. People think you have to be aggressive on the road, but I think you take points and stay close on the road. Force the crowd out of the game, make them all tense up, etc. This is better. Just take points until you don’t have a choice. That’s the best method.
36-24, Beavs
Shouldn’t it be a game fortnight?
Good call. Changed it to Bye week discussion.
Wife and I are flying down for AZ game…little golf, socializing and a low stress game. Now I can’t find my chipping stroke, I don’t like the friends we are seeing, and Arizona looks better than expected.
Luck of an Angry Beav….
Hands and weight forward, use a putting stroke.
Angry, back to back 36-24 outcomes?
Should be a decent showing in Tuscon for AZ Beavs; or those like yourself visiting for many great reasons. Gonna be rocking.
Try having a worse approach shot.
It’s done wonders for my chipping.
Yeah, I’ve figured out how to improve my chipping…hit a damn green once in awhile.
Arizona has the best offense we’ve played yet, but their defense is below average. The WSU game was a major anomaly for both teams.
This looks like it will be a slugfest where the team that gets a few stops will win.
Really think the run game can take the air out of the stadium.
Defense will need to create a turnover or two, which if we establish the run game, force this young qb to feel pressure, should happen
Does anyone else think UA might have had an advantage against Wazzu they don’t have against anyone else in having a former Wazzu starting QB on the roster?
Sure, but they played both USC and Washington tough
This doesn’t change my outlook on either of those defences.
Not so sure that the WSU-AZ game was an anomaly, at least for WSU; those guys looked like they completely quit playing. I guess that Dickert took a 2 week “recruiting” jaunt to FLA and may have had an interview with another team while on a layover at DIA. I guess Michigan State wants him awfully bad..
That’s what it looks like.
He’s from Wisconsin, so yeah.
You may want to look at Arizona’s defensive statistics this season. Caleb Williams, Michael Penix and Cam Ward have combined for 57 passing tds this year. They collectively have 1 against Arizona. Fifita is getting all the talk and deservedly so, but it is the crazy defensive improvement year to year that is the real reason the Cats have a shot at a 7/8 win season. AZ fan lurking, genuinely excited for our football present and future for the first time in a long time. I love everything about the Beavs program and how Smith has built it. I see a lot of similarities with where we are now, and where you were a season or two ago. Next year I hope to see us where you are now. Looking forward to this game in 10 days. Arizona Stadium will be rocking pretty good coming off the mojo of the Wazzu destruction. For now our fanbases can put up our feet this weekend and pull for the Cougs and Huskies to do damage to our rivals.
Looking at your schedule, I see one team that has a run game.
Is that right?
Yeah and that’s fair. Miss St committed heavily to the run game against us. udub was forced to commit to the run game against us because we were playing extra secondary guys against Pennix and keeping all throws in front of us. against SC, Caleb’s running was what hurt us far worse than any running backs. don’t know if you watched the wazzu game but we would go mostly 3 down lineman, sometimes 4.
I do agree that if I was the Beavs in this game I would commit strongly to running the ball, and striving for time consuming drives. And lots of safe passes by DJ. in a hostile, nighttime, drunken pac 12 after dark environment an early pick or two would be bad.
if you put yourself in AZ playcallers shoes, how would you attack osu on d do you think…more run or pass?
Good stuff.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2023/10/15/oregon-dan-lanning-misery-index-fourth-down-gambles/71193402007/
I too hope Smith doesn’t go back to his gambling ways….
I liked JS getting those FGs, keep stacking those bricks ‘til the other team can’t see the light anymore. I think the statistics they are looking at are skewed, regardless of high or low scoring, take the points — have to generate so many points a minute, don’t walk away with nothing….look at how the Browns beat the 49ers yesterday….
Or you could look at how the 49ers lost to the Browns yesterday…
By being too cutesy with the run game?
Would rather lose on a last second FG try going for the win than lose somewhere in the beginning of the game going for it on 4th down or trying some cute on-side kick when you are already up by double digits….#getthedamnpoints!!!
That’s not how SF lost.
SF was making Cleveland look stupid at the beginning of the game. Literally, McCaffrey’s first two touches involved him running wild and not being touched (the first carry or the second) until he was out of bounds or in the endzone.
Then SF started to get cute.
Then Deebo went down.
Then McCaffrey went down.
Too cute by half doesn’t work in the NFL for long.
Don’t overthink the game.
Exactly my point.
Ask the ducks how it feels to be egregiously over aggressive…..dumb dumb dumb
I think the fact JS has a FG kicker that can make a FG is part of the reason he actually kicks FGs this year. In the past, I think he decides to go for it because he feels the chances are more likely to get a first down vs make a FG.
I was thinking in the UCLA game we were taking points because we expected it to be a lower-scoring affair. UCLA’s defense is good, offense is bad, so it made sense to think it was going to 20-17 or something like that.
I’ve watched Sappington in pregame a lot and during halftime. He’s got a leg but it’s not consistent once he gets past 45 yards. The trajectory can be all over the place. So it’s seems clear JS will use him inside 45 yards but not much after.
I think it’s a mental block where the distance triggers some extra oomph, instead of relying on form.
Just like my long irons lol
Two weeks to figure out the spread offense and a running QB. USC figured something out in the 2nd half to stop the bleeding, somewhat.
Recipe on offense is the same: attack the middle of that defense with the run game and sustain drives.
https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/espn-college-gameday-predictions-college-football/
They edited the article and now list UW/OSU as second in line for gameday.
Please… no.
PAC12 after dark, Beavs vs Wildcats a 7:30 kickoff on ESPN. Figured this would be set for a PAC12 appearance. These ones always seem ripe for upsets. But at night, the heat won’t be an issue. Forecast in Tucson today is 99 degrees.
Accuweather has them dropping from 94 on Sunday to 80 and wet on Monday, and the rest of the week settling into the low 70s.
73 and partly cloudy on the 28th… with a Harvest Moon.
Canzano’s recent mailbag had a question about whether any Pac refs have been hired by other conferences yet and he says that several Pac refs have been in contact with the Big10 and will likely be working there next year.
So yeah. We’ll continue to get screwed by these doofs
“Oh, sure we’ll hire you, but we need to see some loyalty first…if you understand….”
Immediately smells of conflict of interest and anyone job hunting with other conferences should be fired on the spot.
Major concern in the next few weeks for sure. Big10 has a huge interest/investment to try and protect UW/Oregon as they join the Big10.
And USC/UCLA.
And replace them with who?
Fact of the matter is they dont know if this cinference will have a job for them next year, so of course they’re looking around.
And it’s not like there’s a backlog of officials waiting to step in and fill spots.
And the conference has no teeth to hold anybody accountable because we dont even know who actually has authority to run the conference right now.
Many should be fired.
The MWC has competent refs, for the most part.
Referees shouldn’t work for the conferences anyway. They should work for the NCAA.
agreed
Happy to see DJU seemingly fully settling in these last three weeks. It’s very possible that we lose the last two weeks without him making some huge throws, especially in 3rd and long and 4th down situations. I’m not sure if we would have won the Cal game or UCLA game having to rely on Gulbranson’s arm with our run game being locked down pretty well. We even saw some personal play making ability this past week, particularly with the lob throw to Velling. Something we’ve lacked is a QB who can make plays happen even when things are breaking down with the run game or pass protection, and it was great to see DJ rise to that occasion.
Personally, it scares the heck out of me when the rush gets to him because you never know what he’s going to do with the ball. He might make a great throw or he might make one in the middle of the field to no one.
Actually, I think he’s had several “smart throwaways” lately; usually when no one is open but maybe a couple when the rush got to him.
Also, he’s hung in and made decent throws several time when the rush was just about to get to him.
I gotta admit though, he hasn’t taken off much lately to try to improvise when things were breaking down.
As CastorNation says, ” He is getting more comfortable with the complex offense”
Yes… several just put in the dirt or oob or to a space.
I guess future games will see the wrs making secondary routes to “spaces.”
I see what ya did there.
It’s what happens.
My father used to tell me, “He plays at a level nobody else plays, and they need to catch up.”
This isn’t that, but the idea that you have someone who can put passes in places where wrs can actually get to, if they change their scramble routes, isn’t far-fetched.
Was it me or did the TE that went down (to stop the clock) in the waning minutes of the Oregon-Washington game actually forget which knee he injured? Sure looked like it.
Yes, the announcers commented on that, too
I saw that. Grabbed one knee then switched to the other.
Ducks faked an injury in their attempted game winning drive against UW last year as well. The guy was fine at got up, then when they saw they were out of timeouts and about run out of game time, he fell to the ground.
nice catch
I actually think the game is slowing down for DJU. He is getting more comfortable with the complex offense. I only remember one sack on Saturday and maybe some hurry ups. Hopefully the team will work hard on plugging the holes this week. Need to see the 4th quarter civil war defense show up for the remainder of the year.
Did DJU take off much? I don’t recall seeing any designed runs or runs when receivers weren’t open. I didn’t get to watch every down though.
He had one designed run but it was negated with an offsides penalty on UCLA. Other than that he didn’t have many opportunities to take off.
Yes there were a couple runs mostly at end of game to milk the clock
How did DJU know he was supposed to milk the clock??
41% of the million $NIL collective in hand. Small donations noted.
https://givebutter.com/c/DamNationNIL
is it really supposed to say ‘give butter’?
Not sure, but I know I’m going to walk around and uselessly drop, “Give butter,” on unsuspecting people, for the next week or so.
I guess the bowl prognosticators don’t think the Beavs will beat UW or U of O
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/pac-12-bowl-projections-washington-in-line-for-cfp-berth/ar-AA1ijdmX?ocid=msedgntp&pc=WIP1DSE&cvid=b903eb2c8fd3432b86179335458573dc&ei=8
Both teams are great, solely because they havent played any good teams yet to prove their greatness.
Oregon’s opponents record for the W’s so far are 14-19(with many of those Ws coming against FCS and lower competition)
PortSt 3-3
Hawaii 2-5
TTech 3-4
Colorado 4-3
Stanford 2-4
UW opps besides Oregon are 15-18
Boise 3-4
Tulsa 3-3
Mich St 2-4
Cal 3-4
Arizona 4-3
At least UW has a decent resume.
If Beavs had 1 or 2 more plays go their way against WSU, they’d have every argument to be ranked higher than UW and they already have a better resume than Oregon.
Good points, similar to the facts that showed the ballyhooed UCLA run D hadn’t faced anything like the Beavs run game. Beavs notched twice the bruin rush yds allowed previously and could have had more if Lindgren had called more for Martinez/Fenwick.
Beavs also had a good defense until they played WSU, Cal, and then UCLA. Great showing against a really bad offensive team in Utah. This is college football in general. Injuries, matchups, etc change week to week. Do we expect to keep Arizona until our ppg allowed average of 20? I wouldn’t bet on it. Maybe Stanford will stay under that number but they just put up 30 something against Colorado in regulation.
And I agree totally.
Alamo Bowl vs. Kansa State? I’ll take it.
Agree with the article that is.
Yeesh, this one has the Beavers at the Sun Bowl. No Thanks.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/10/17/college-football-bowl-projections-week-7-washington-playoff/71155625007/
I actually love the Sun Bowl. I wish it was a more highly respected bowl. The campus architecture is just amazing.
Bye weeks are usually weeks for recruiting off campus. I’ll be curious to see where the coaches are headed on visits this week. I think only Kim has committed in the time the conference news broke. Haven’t heard much since. But only one guy has officially decommitted. Net zero effect so far. Resolution to the conference can’t come fast enough.
I’m hearing it’s damn near impossible to get new commits until there is more certainty.
Some of the excitement that was brewing behind the scenes about 10 days ago is now fading and there are growing concerns with the lawsuit dragging out which is big because scheduling has been extremely difficult… unwillingness from P5 schools to engage. Other schools don’t want to play in Corvallis.
Home schedule may look like this (total guess)… Purdue, Idaho State, Portland State, Idaho, WSU. Away games might be Boise St, WSU, Colorado State, Wyoming, Montana, Fresno State, Hawaii… maybe ND or Clemson
Who you are you hearing this from though?
I hear lots of things but some sources aren’t to be trusted.
You’re telling me random twitter bots aren’t sources???
No way Barnes turns down UW AD job and stays here without him knowing we are landing in a P4 conference. With that being said the negotiations will probably take a few more weeks to finalize.
Fuck P4.
We will make the 5 of the P5, and ESPN and FOX will like it, or ESPN and FOX will get to share all their emails with the public.
While I would like to see the latter, it’s just a leverage play that nobody actually wants to see manifest.
Dude. Just stop. You also said this…..
Beaverpride
October 9, 2023 at 9:07 am
“This week the B12 will ramp up. Hope this doesn’t become a distraction.”
Seeing how nothing happened or ramped up, we should take your opinions with a large grain of salt.
More random Twitter “sources”?
Take it or leave it. I’m not a reporter and certainly don’t have any reliable sources other than some friends employed by OSU and some athletes that are friends with my son. Nothing that i posted on October 9 was inaccurate even though it was pure speculation based on a casual conversation I had with a friend. Since my post on 10/9 at 9am there has been a lot of ramping up… UW joined the lawsuit later that day, Barnes signed an extension, the Beavs and WSU issued statements, WSU held an unplanned board meeting, Beavs have been working on scheduling, there has been Gonzaga to B12 speculation, it was reported that mediation is taking place, and prior to all of the above, my friend was optimistic that a quick resolution to the lawsuit was coming and thus a B12 invite could follow. When UW joined the lawsuit, that changed the timeline and thus a B12 invite for 2024. Scheduling has now become extremely important.
Regarding my post today, to be clear, the schedule I threw out is 100% speculation on my part based on who we already have on the schedule and just thinking about potential options. Just a pure guess on my part.
Also, I enjoy many of the posts on this site and on occasion I chime in with tidbits of info based on conversations I’ve had with people. I don’t throw shit out there that I know is total BS. I’ve never made any promises or portrayed my self as a reporter or anyone with the inside scoop. Just sharing information. Like I said, take it or leave it.
So since your son knows some players has he heard them say anything about what they’re being told? Just curious if the team is being feed info that’s not really getting out.
Yes, a current commit (sr in HS) has told me and my son that Beav coaches are optimistic they’ll end up in B12… that conversation happened a while back and I think I posted that information on AB a couple weeks before there were reports that WSU was telling recruits the same. I asked the kid if the Beavs ended up in MWC if he would decommit and he said it depends on if coaches stick around but that he really wants to go to Oregon State.
So it really depends on the coaches, not where we end up in the short term?
Just retain the coaches and keep putting out great product?
Florida State did it for years. The Niners in the 80s and 90s feasted on patsies within their division, only to be prepared for the big games. New England in the AFC East was the same.
You can be elite and run a conference from the front. We just had a bunch of whiny whiners doing it, before now.
And we can elevate other teams in the process.
But it has to be clear that no future whining about media markets and TV revenues or winning or losing is allowed. A conference is together to shelter everyone in the highs and the lows.
Imagine the recruiting sell:
Yeah… we have some games where you’ll get a lot of reps early. And if you show out, you’ll get big game time.
I like your input whether it comes to fruition or not.
Coaches/recruiters have all the motivation in the world to say we might be going to the Big 12. There’s no downside to doing so. If we by some miracle join the Big 12, they’ll be right, but if we don’t, they can just say negotiations fell through etc. I would take coaches telling recruits we’ll be in the Big 12 with a grain of salt.
The Big 12 is the enemy… and basically the MWC plus Utah and good hoops teams.
One thing I am hearing is Big 12 is not releasing their 2024 schedules until Dec/Jan. Other P5 conferences have completed their scheduling. You could speculate the delay in scheduling is waiting to see what happens with OSU/WSU.
Locked on b12 explains things are going to heat up after lawsuit is settled in a couple weeks. It’s on YouTube
https://youtu.be/d7SqWNWnPf8?si=_xcBJMlihSOcnDGk
“Washington State and Oregon State hope to join the Big12 or ACC.”
No shit. Now what?
meh
Canzano had a podcast with Wilner the other day talking about what they expect from the Pac2 in the coming weeks.
They said the 2 teams will be announcing their plans for the next year or 2 in the coming weeks. The teams know they need to have their scenario known prior to when the transfer portal opens and signing day happens, at the beginning of December.
Not only for recruits and signing day, but also so existing players have a way to plan if they want to stay or enter the portal.
The 2 guys that have been the most wrong during this whole process. Why would anybody read what these 2 jerk offs have to say?
I don’t read Canzano, so I couldn’t say.
But what has Wilner got wrong?
He pretty confidently stated OSU and WSU would just head to the MWC and that would be that
Yeah I haven’t been impressed with Wilner’s information or his opinions on how the process may shake out. He is likely just lazy enough to follow along with the T10 to create a soft landing for his future reporting once the dust settles, figures the best bet is to run with the majority of teams and their storylines of what has happened.
Isn’t he stuck with the ridiculous future ACC if he stays in the Bay Area?
The ACC option seems ridiculous to me.
Stick it out, use the leverage, there will be more realignment in the near future, right?
Everyone but 2Pac says that.
He’s been running decent numbers since that time. But you’re correct that he rarely speculates. And this is why.
Measuring the resolve of others from a distance isn’t a wise way to make a living.
A few random thoughts (more random than usual):
I was kind of disappointed in the UW/UO game. Not the end result, but I agree with Angry, these dumb “aggressive” 4th down calls are detracting from the game. That said, I obviously hope Lanning continues to be stupid through the end of this season.
IF OSU could get back to its 2022-USC@OSU type of defense, I think it can run with and beat UW and UO. As many have said here, there needs to be a strong re-emphasis on tackling though. Hopefully the young DBs continue to improve and can competently play both zone and man coverages by UW. I don’t think either UO or UW have shown the ability to just lock down an opposing offense..CU@UO the exception.
There were comments about the use of Chiles potentially wasting Chiles redshirt, and how it might affect his future here. His efficiency is very impressive, and I think he could be a genuine difference maker come the back quarter of the season. Hell, I’d even like to see a creative two QB set for several plays by the time @ UO rolls around. Not gimmicky, just difficult to defend.
Where is Kelze Howard? injured? I was hoping he’d be getting reps come the last 4 games of the season…give him some time to adjust, grow, and then hopefully have a pass rusher opponents don’t have any real film on…
Howard has been scout team POW multiple times. He seems to be coming along, but may need to add size before he’s ready.
JS alluded to his status earlier in the year when asked about true freshman players. Physically ready, playing not so much. He hasn’t appeared in any game. After the Colorado game, we might start seeing some true freshman make appearances while preserving their redshirts.
I think when we get highly rated recruits we expect to see them play immediately but I think this is a testament to the depth of the dline and the talent that smith has accumulated since becoming the coach. Hickle I’ve seen play some and he’s been effective. I’m really excited about him.
give butter
Headbuttin’ Hekker:
https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2023/10/watch-carolina-panthers-punter-former-oregon-state-beaver-star-johnny-hekker-headbutts-player-during-heated-moment.html
#53 (likely a backup LB?) does an NBA-quality flop on the headbutt. No goddamned pride…
Fuaga getting a lot of recognition at the mid point.
PFF 1st team
ESPN 1st team
CBS 1st team
Starting to fly up the draft boards
It’s a little perverse watching him versus college players.
It’s just nuts.
Question about Howard got me thinking, other than Chiles who else has burned their redshirt? Just one other. Jermond McCoy. He’s played in every game.
Zachary Card has appeared in 4 games so he’s probably done for the year. Looks like a bowl game would count against him which is too bad.
Don’t see anyone else in danger of losing their redshirt at this point.
McCoy has looked pretty good on the coverage end.
Recognition on the run game could use some work. But he looks really good.
On the redshirt status, I wonder if people like Howard will be utilized in the last four games… whatever they may be. Size will not be an issue against UW or the university of Phil. They are about speed.
Beavs Women’sXC has moved up to #9 team nationally.
Also #1 in the state of Oregon. Just sayin…
https://www.ustfccca.org/2023/10/featured/2023-ncaa-di-womens-cross-country-national-coaches-poll-week-4
It’s a travesty OSU does not have a men’s team.
I see people are speculating that Big12 commissioner, Brett Yormark, is delayimg the release of their new conference football schedule because they think he’s waiting till he can announce new teams are being added. He said ealier today it will come out in early December.
Also, how soon till it’s revealed Brett Yormark is a coke addict? He seems super twitchy.
https://twitter.com/Mitch_Harper/status/1714273734465622217?t=tb5DKqRE91aeZVmLngX9UQ&s=19
Wouldn’t be surprising. Didn’t he come from the music industry?
Pretty fun stat: DJU leads all transfer QB’s in QBR this season (above Sanders, Hartman, etc.)
He seems to be progressing nicely, and at the right time.
Some of us, me anyway, may have had unfair expectations on how fast he progressed with this team. He’s getting more efficient and is producing scoring drives, and seems to be syncing with the WRs lately. Some good play calling has Jack “The Convenience Store” Velling open all the time, and he’ll easily set an OSU record for TDs by a TE.
I like that when DJs throws, if off, tend to be high and reduce INT risks, though he has the occasional ball that hangs up there when he tries to apply touch. His touch passes seem to be improving overall though. Mix in a highly efficient Chiles, and this offense may be coming together for the back half of the season and surprise the popular media when UW and UO roll around.
https://theclemsoninsider.com/2023/10/16/espn-analysts-weigh-in-on-whats-different-about-dju-this-season/
“…Schematically, Oregon State is doing a lot of things that fit his strengths. He’s being able to get under center. And how about this stat – he only had two under-center snaps last year at Clemson, this year he already (had) 46 (entering last Saturday’s game vs. UCLA)….
In his last three games with Oregon State — wins over Utah, Cal and UCLA — Uiagalelei has completed 63 percent of his passes for 745 yards and eight touchdowns with one interception…”
His stats this year are almost exactly like they were at Clemson last year, except he got sacked way more at Clemson and his deep ball accuracy has gone from 39% there to 55% here.
He also has less rushing attempts. 81 attempts through the first 7 games last year. 36 this year. Probably feels pretty good after each game by taking less hits. Clemson ran him into the ground.
Wilner’s mid-season look gives kudos to Michalczik, no other significant mention of Beavs.
Says, ” Everyone knows what’s coming, yet OSU still averages 195 rushing yards per game and 5.5 yards per carry despite the absence of blue-chip recruits and elite NFL prospects. … Michalczik coaches the most important position (aside from quarterback) better than anyone in the conference year after year.
Honest note on officiating as well.
https://www.ksl.com/article/50756289/pac-12-midseason-awards-uws-penix-utahs-whittingham-lead-our-look-at-the-best-and-worst-from-the-first-half
That’s because we really haven’t had any star individual performers (though Bolden is close to qualifying there). It’s truly been a team effort. Great coaching getting the most out of solid talent.
Martinez is regularly at the top of the conference in total yards…dropping a bit in YPC, but still, clearly one of the best starting RBs in the T10/P2.
It would be nice for him to have a BIG game with a 150+ yards and multiple TDs…we all know he can do it, but it is a team approach and the effort is being distributed.
It’s not like he’s carrying the team, though. Fenwick gets a substantial number of carries and the offense has truly been a team effort.
He missed Velling as an underappreciated player and should have noted Chiles glaring efficiency. But, he has an entire conference to cover.
If/when people start actually covering Velling that’s going to create some interesting opportunities for DJ.
Velling is leading the nation in touchdowns by a TE… Pretty lazy reporting
And Mascarenas is leading the conference in tackles…who knew?
The more I think about it, the more I’m concerned about shitty officiating affecting the Colorado game.
I dont think the Beavs would have any problem beating them, but you know the powers that be really want Colorado to get a 6th win and bowl eligibility. It’s just worth too much money to get them in front of a national audience.
And nobody wants the Beavs to be a Pac12 dark horse outside of WSU/OSU.
Focus on Arizona first, but after that we have to leave little room for whistles to affect the outcome at CO
Yes, the Beavs biggest hurdle the rest of the way will be the Refs. The entire conference powers that be have to be against WSU and OSU big time right now and passing that memo along. Luck o’ Da Beavs…
At CU, v. UW, and @ UO are all going to biased towards Beaver opponents in support of rankings and the popular narrative.
The Beavers will have to keep their heads up like they did in that Nolan-led win @ USC a few years ago, when there were for example 3(!) defensive holding calls in a row….I was really impressed with the Beavers ability to not let that get to them.
v. UW and @UO I figure the Beavers are going to have to play for 14 point victories just to win by 3…
https://www.si.com/college/ucla/football/ucla-football-beavers-te-credited-for-crucial-role-in-bruins-win-has-been-key-player-for-weeks-cn2002
Hey NiceBeaver,
Any recruiting updates? Heard the Beavs hosted quite a few possible recruits. Appreciate your updates that you provide!!! Thanks.
To be honest, I barely pay attention anymore.
Elon Musk changed twitter around enough that I’ve lost one of my main tools for knowing who to follow up on, and i just dont have the time(or desore) lately to ask people for info all the time. Plus all of the realignment drama is more interesting.
I did see a Boise State kicker decomitted yestersay and he was visiting OSU last weekend, so that seems encouraging. But its hard to get excited about kicker recruiting.
Ok no worries. Thank you!
And if it’s true that Musk is going to start charging people for simple stuff like retweeting and replying, i think it will be time to let the account die.
There’s no reason i’d pay to do the social part of social media.
Untell a game hinges on the kicker, eh?
(for nice beaver)
Two crystal balls for the kicker. That could help him with clutch kicks.
Ducks get a five star DL and just got two crystal balls for a highly ranked edge rusher. Beavs are catching up in the arms race haha.
Crystal balls? Sounds fragile.
Balls made of crystal instead of steel. He has to be special.
There once was a man from Grant’s Pass.
Who’s balls were made out of brass.
He clanged them together, and played stormy weather.
And lightning shot out of his ass.
Must be Italian
Wtf are crystal balls?
Do they also bounce funny?
Someone told me the NCAA granted 2Pac’s request to remain a conference for two years.
Can’t find any reporting on it, though.
Not sure if this counts as reporting, it’s from the Cougs PA announcer, who also happens to be a journalism professor at WSU. It’s a multi-tweet thread. this is only a small part:
“On the idea of operating as a 2-team conference: The NCAA confirmed WSU/OSU are allowed that grace period to be a two-team “Pac-12″ until summer of 2026. The threshold for championship access, however, is higher…”
https://twitter.com/MattLoveless/status/1714778612384354323
This is the way
AP Midseason All Americans:
First Team: Taliese Fuaga, third-year, Oregon State.
Second Team: Tanner Miller, fifth-year, Oregon State.
Too bad Velling didn’t make the list…you know, leading the nation in TDs for TEs…
https://apnews.com/article/ap-midseason-allamerica-team-56d17d9be9afc33947d0bf5c1fbbc11c
If we get by Arizona, the D will have a string of games against similar offenses, getting better with each game.
They haven’t had that yet.
wrong spot
meant for comment below
Well, ok but we need the defense to pick it up.
https://collegefootballnews.com/predictions/predicting-every-remaining-pac-12-game-conference-championship-final-standings
“News of the [sports media] world” via today’s WSJ.
In a story headlined “NBA Seeks TV-Rights Deals with More Streaming Firms” we see this: “As the NBA enters its first media negotiations in a decade, its biggest partners, Disney’s ESPN and Warner Bros. Discovery’s TNT . . . aren’t looking to pony up big spending increases.” [once again, Coach Deboer, the Big 10 “linear” deal is “peak” cable. Get used to it, stupido.] “Each company is under investor pressure to trim costs, with Cable TV’s decline and hefty mergers weighing on their balance sheets.” “ESPN and TNT, which carry roughly 165 nationally televised games combined, are exploring signing up for smaller packages.” Of course, as we know already, this “would allow the league to create a package for a streaming video player.” Amazon and Georgie’s Apple. This story concludes as follows: “The NBA will be the last major sports media property to come up for bidding for a long time,” an assertion that I think is belied by what the ACC 4 (Clemson, FSU, Miami and NC) plus the Pac 2 might have in mind.
Not surprisingly, there is neighboring story titled: “Profit Falls at Disney Sports Unit, Shedding Light on ESPN Problems.” Again, the new Big 10 contract is the essence of “Peak Cable.” This has long been evident, but not if your only reading is recruiting tout sheets and the Chronicle of Higher Education. [Here’s looking at you, UW.] This story ends on a curious note, to wit: “ESPN has explored pacts with the NFL and NBA in which the leagues would supply programming and assets in exchange for small equity stakes in ESPN.” Query to AB Nation: isn’t the Pac 12 network’s ability to produce games for TV potentially analogous to what’s being suggested here?
Who’s your most improved player this year for the Beavs that was in a Beav uniform last year? For me, I have to go with Akili Arnold
I’d agree it’s Arnold. I thought there’d be a huge drop off at the free safety position with Grant leaving but Arnold has really stepped up. He’s a solid tackler.
Arnold set the tone in the UCLA game early. Guy was everywhere on that first drive
Yup and Julian hasn’t really played if I’m remembering correctly?
He’s played some snaps at inside LB
Bolden, he’s starting to become a reliable #1 WR. One concern at the beginning on the year was the lack of size at the WR position and the ability of the starters. He’ll probably triple his yardage from last year.
His route running in the last three games has been phenomenal. With his size, he needs to be precise on his routes to get open and he’s been wide open on the TDs in the last three games.
If he keeps it up, that’s helps everyone on offense. Defenses will have to stay very disciplined vs the Beavs as they can’t load up against the run, play action plays will be very dangerous for opponents to handle.
Offense bolden and velling seem the most improved.
Oline was always a monster, same as rb and dj.
Defense lolohea and masceranas plus Arnold seem like the candidates. But noble Thomas and cooper are right in the mix as well
#5 LB
A possible scenario. Vegas participant could be determined by #4 criteria on multi team tie breakers, best combined strength of schedule of conference opponents, which would favor the Beavs since they miss last place ASU
UW 8-1 11-1
OSU 7-2 10-2
UU 7-2 10-2
UCLA 7-2 10-2
UO 7-2 10-2
USC 5-4 8-4
WSU 5-4 8-4
UA 4-5 6-6
CAL 2-7 4-8
CU 1-8 4-8
STAN 1-8 2-10
ASU 0-9 1-11
The thought of our hopes relying on a road Civil War outcome already makes me sick to my stomach. When was the last time we won there on the road? I’m thinking that James Rodgers late TD game where they didnt have their starting QB
I think we get the win there finally.
I’d be more worried about the next game.
Twice since 1995.
JS bat signal
If it’s not the kicker, i don’t know who it would be.
Angie said “it’s a good one!”
Hope she’s not trying to oversell a kicker flipping from Boise St to OSU and it’s somebody a little “bigger”
Not that i don’t value kickers, i really do. But they’re kickers… They’re all considered “5 star” if they are playing Power 5 football
Just thinking, another possibility would be Marquis Brown. JUCO DB who was also on a visit to campus last week.
4* TE.
Not too shabby, coach Smith.
https://twitter.com/BaronNaone/status/1715442776329040300?t=JUgxwVOlO499T-lsmz2jHw&s=19
One of the best players in the state. That’s a pretty good pull, i kindof figured he would end up at oregon jist cause they always get the top in state talent.
Assist to Jack Velling for showing how successful the TE position can be in this system
Class of 2025, btw
Oregon didn’t offer him according to offers he has posted on X.
Per 247, came down to UW and OSU. Was in Seattle for the game last weekend. Nice pull after being in that environment.
Apparently dad used to play for the Beavs. Must have been before my time cause the name isn’t familiar to me
Avezanno years.
Made GA years look tame.
If you did see those years, your ptsd would block them out, and you would be good with that.
His dad isn’t Barry Naone that played for Port St back when they were good? Must be an uncle.
Saw an article that said OSU likes him as a DE. Feels like a long shot he’ll stay with us until 2025 but would be great to see.
He will
PHIL STEELE REPORT (BYE WEEK PREDICTIONS):
PAC-12
#5 Washington 47, Arizona State 24
#9 Oregon 45, Washington State 20
#18 USC 30, #14 Utah 20 (BEST BET: USC -7)
#25 UCLA 37, Stanford 13
NATIONAL
#2 Michigan 38, Michigan State 9 (COMPUTER BEST BET: Michigan -24)
#3 Ohio State 23, #7 Penn State 20
#4 Florida State 35, #16 Duke 13 (BEST BET: Florida State -14)
#6 Oklahoma 49, UCF 21 (COMPUTER BEST BET: Oklahoma -18)
#8 Texas 45, Houston 17
#10 North Carolina 44, Virginia 17
#11 Alabama 30, #17 Tennessee 17
Auburn 28, #13 Ole Miss 27
#19 LSU 48, Army West Point 20
#20 Missouri 30, South Carolina 27
#22 Air Force 20, Navy 10
#23 Tulane 41, North Texas 24
#24 Iowa 20, Minnesota 10 (COMPUTER BEST BET: Iowa -3.5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_yrOpg74U
a short DJU analysis by Jordan Palmer. He’s a QB guru now working with guys before the draft
good stuff
Would love to see all 3 of oregon/washington/usc lose, but the only one with a decent chance is Utah over USC.
One of FSU/Duke will lose.
One of tOSU/Penn State will lose.
One of Tennessee/Alabama will lose.
The winner of all 3 of those games will stay ahead or leap in front of OSU in the rankings. In 1 or 2 cases the loser could still hang out ahead(like if Ohio State or FSU loses)
Outside of those games, I dont see much chance for OSU improving their standing on a bye week.
Which is fine, just keep winning.
After the wazzu game, it was great to see him attacking and throwing the ball downfield more.
Here’s more with Jordan Palmer on DJU.
I believe this was posted here awhile back, it’s about an hour long.
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/article/oregon-state-beavers-qb-dj-uiagalelei-the-qb-room-217928394/
Ty for this find Bill; personally this was great for me as it was technical but wasn’t overwhelming.
Corroborates that while understandable it is a new system he came into, he’s gotten “better” in it over time– this inspires confidence for after the bye.
Strange to have no Beav game to look forward to this weekend.
Hope for a lot of upsets this weekend
Is ‘Built not Bought’ original with WSN? I think there should be game attendees with big posters saying it.
No
https://shop.osubeavers.com/mens-fanatics-branded-black-oregon-state-beavers-built-not-bought-t-shirt/p-133333623194373911+z-95-105125543
Any one have the latest from the mediation? Or other?
I’d like to see Wazzu bounce back and ply the Ducks the way they played against the Beavs, and come out of Autzen with a win today.
I’m expecting USC to be a bit more focused against Utah, but all Utah needs to do is limit Caleb Williams and force some more turnovers and they will have a shot to win. USC defense won’t “win” the game for USC.
I hope Duke can beat FSU just to reduce the amount of undefeated teams, and Duke will upset the narrative for ACC strength.
Penn St will finally beat OSU today.
It would be nice to see UCF catch Oklahoma napping and beat them as well. Not likely but I’m not sold on Sooners either.
Georgia losing Bowers for the year is the first big injury this year for these yearly contenders. Rising may be out for the year and redshirt I’ve read. It is a long season and I’m still not convinced that Nix and Penix will stay healthy all the way through. As the season continues and games get more intense, we will see more season changing injuries. Hoping the Beavs can stay healthy and keep winning. It is a good week for a bye.
Also, go Air Force!
Besides the Beavers, I have a smaller, soft spot for Air Force. They do their thing; always pleased to hear when they’re doing well.
Highly unlikely Penn St wins in Columbus.
In fact all of those you mentioned are road dogs.
Not impossible. I don’t see it. But I’m also not a a betting man
I know, just looking at the games and hoping for a couple to go our way… unlikely that more than 1-2 become upsets.
I will say Ohio St isn’t as good offensively and it opens the door for Penn St to grind a low scoring win.
Big 10 seems a bit too heavy and the top may be overrated.
Duke starting QB has also been out with a high ankle sprain. He may suit up today but is unlikely to play according to what I just read.
I didn’t know this nor really care as I don’t follow Duke football.
And so far you’re correct about tOSU/Pedo U.
3-3 midway through the 2nd quarter and boring AF
And it looks like the Ohio St check was finally deposited for the refs as they make 2 huge calls to take away a Penn St touchdown and aid an OSU touchdown.
Meanwhile Okla gets 3 gift flags to end the half tied.
I despise garbage reffing that gives the ranked favorite the advantage and seems to slant in favor of the ranked teams with the benefit of the doubt each time.
Beavs will need to be a dominant team and very Disciplined because the refs will attempt to shift game Momentum and crucial times going Down the stretch.
Do the Beavs leapfrog Oklahoma if they lose to UCF?
For sure. Losing to an unranked team at home is much worse vs losing to a ranked team at the time on the road. Would also help if Utah beat USC today too.
They should but it won’t happen.
Same if Penn State loses.
A WSU 2 today sure would hel5the Beavers’ loss to WSU age better…
A WSU upset today sure would help the Beavers’ loss to WSU age better…
Typing on a phone…
Penn State’s offense is atrocious. 0/11 on third downs. Beavs are better.
Both of the are atrocious honestly. Neither trusts the qb and it makes it that much worse to watch.
But, but they’re B19! Baked in nlue blood legitimacy!
Much of college football is vastly overrated and barely watchable…
Even their trick plays are terrible and fool no one
Hmm, WSU can’t block, or run, can’t pass protect even w/3 man rushes, and have been turning the ball over…
https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/2023/10/scouting-the-cougars-5-questions-prediction-with-a-washington-state-reporter.html
Sounds like disaster at UO…
Incompetent referee crew from last week is in Eugene today. Already missing calls.
4th and 3 in Nike territory and WSU runs a horrible trick play that fools no one. That seems to be the trend lately. Can they not get 3 yards with something from the standard playbook?
Ward is looking a lot better today. Unfortunately, Wazzu’s TE just dropped a potential big gain on a flea flicker. 10-10 with about 2:30 left in the first half.
Tennessee is playing against the refs and Alabama as well. Several timely reviews that benefit Bama already. Ridiculous to see how brazen the initial calls tend to be.
Hilarious that Lanning looks ashamed to be forced to punt now that he can’t fool everyone with how brilliant he is as a coach.
Does it seem like most of these new OC and DC guys look straight out of the gray house on campus? Or am I just getting old?
I’m afraid the Cougs peaked out when they played us, where they played great. Not so much lately.
If I’m the Ducks I wouldn’t attempt another pass until Wazzu shows it can stop the run.
Unfortunately there’s no coaching adjustment to be made when the D Line is getting smoked and the receivers are freely releasing off the LOS.
Interesting how much refs can influence the game in subtle ways. Stop momentum swings with replay reviews, call a critical hold on a big gain, don’t call obvious hold on big plays, pass interference on the same sequence as a scoop and score overturns the TD, roughing the passer on an interception, roughing the punter or not, targeting or not and the review, all of these calls and stoppages can change the game dramatically if done subtly by crooked refs.
These are all examples I’ve seen this year and I think their needs to be some way to review and respond.
How about blowing a whistle causing Ward to believe the play is dead.
Ward needs to be running way more. It looks like he could pick up 4 yards easily on every play when he gets out of the pocket, but he keeps forcing bad throws instead.
Upsets all falling apart. Houston is keeping it close with Texas; that’s probably the best shot right now.
Minnesota just gave away their game
Nevermind, the refs gave it back
Why is wazzu using every past second before snapping the ball
Hopefully 3-3 Houston drops #8 Texas….
I like how the two douches on the broadcast discuss the rematch of ducks and dogs in pac championship and talking about all the other great teams in the pac.
‘UCLA will be a tough one of course’
Lol
Forgot to mention the suspicious spot of ball with no review as the subtle go to to keep the favorite in control. Pretty bad to see Texas get the same treatment as UW when Jefferson was called
Short 3 times in a row. Sark has the money on his team but they may have lost their qb.
I was listening to the Houston radio broadcast, the announcers were going ballistic at that call and I immediately thought of Angry’s theory. Also, one of the Houston announcers used the phrase “War Daddy”, if that was invented by GA it has apparently traveled!
Closed scrimmage today men’s basketball beats Idaho 79-66. Rataj didn’t play. Beavs baseball played a double header vs some Canadian team and it was a thrashing. Think beavs scored 30+ and gave up 2 runs. This offense could be ridiculous and if we can have some halfway decent starting pitching…look out.
Dorman on Joe Beaver show said the have cycled through a few guys and brought in several transfers/freshmen and they all are throwing mid 90s with control… we’ll see if that translates to success. The bats may be insane though.
Will Grinch survive the first half today?
USC admins will take Grinch on a drive to LAX and fire him on the tarmac out of tradition…
USC defense is so bad…….
A RB can come out of the backfield with his QB staring him down the entire time for a long TD
Utah’s defense not looking great either
Good news is that neither does USCs defense. Utah in a shootout?
Funny how USC can catch the ball with 2 hands switch the ball and take 5 steps then drop the ball but all voices immediately say no fumble. So crazy what we see. Easily a fumble if that is the Beavs on offense.
That was a wildly blatant reversal
What a terrible 4th down play call by Whittingham. Rather than sneak it 1.5 yards under center the QB lines up 5 yards behind the LOS so he has to get 6.
Virginia looking good against North Carolina! Just scored a TD to take the lead.
ACC is terrible and so is Big10 other than Michigan. SEC has no qbs and Big12 did everything they could to preserve Oklahoma and Texas today for a playoff run. None of those teams are impressive except Michigan.
It will be interesting to see the real rankings later that actually impact playoff decisions because a lot of these teams are overhyped playing overhyped for overhyped matchups as a way to game the system for particular conferences.
Terrible fumble by the Virginia rb out of the end zone for a touchback. NC with the ball momentum and driving.
Virginia upsets North Carolina!
Beavs should be #10 in the AP poll tomorrow.
Duke will jump OSU if they beat Duke as they should. A top 10 win on the road is hard to argue against
True. Duke’s win on the road would be considered more impressive than OSU’s two wins against ranked opponents.
Dukes not winning without Leonard.
Nah it’s over. Beavs #10
Doubt it I bet we get jumped by a few teams below us ole miss and Duke if they win. Wouldn’t be surprised if we are #14
Utahs qb makes a dumbass pick 6.
Utah cougin it to USC
Come again
Didn’t age too well. Utes in the process of breaking USCs hearts again lol
Utah win for Beavs looking even better.
Lol USC is going to be the new Purdue in the big10 and Riley is gone after this season although I don’t know what NFL organization would want him.
Let’s go asu!
Holy Shit….they’ve held the Huskies scoreless through the first 19 minutes of the game and now lead 7-0. WTF?
Sun Devils have won 13 of the last 15 against the Huskies.
They like double A gap blitzes and force Penix to roll out. Also helps to put a few hits on him.
So does the AP move #14 Utah up ahead of the Beavs, despite losing to OSU and having the same record?
UNC losing takes a top 10 team out of both of their paths.
Penn State should, but probably wont drop below OSU.
The soiled children were #18…utes would have the same record as beavs and a loss head to head…it’s not like Utah beat a top 10 team
True, but they always seem to reward winning teams a little and punish teams who don’t play. And there’s really no room to reward Utah without leapfrogging OSU unless OSU moves up too.
They should probably make it OSU/Utah/Penn St in the 11/12/13 spots
Washington is very beatable if our defense shows up.
Grinch was everyones hot commodity and now has all the talent but can’t put a defense on the field, Grinch gonna get sent to whoville
He’s a good coach when egos and hubris don’t get I’m the way.
Leg humpers look like dog shit tonight.
Losing 7-3 to ASSU at halftime in Seattle
I dont inderstand when it’s determined forward progress has been stopped and when they let a play keep going.
ASU stops the Husky ball carrier dead in his tracks, but they dont blow it dead. Then after a bunch of pushing and shoving, UW shoves the pile forward to the 1st down marker, although ASU shoves the pile back 1 or 2 yards. 1st down is granted even though the ball carrier was apparently still attempting to run the entire time
Reminds me of USC last year
Totally, stoooing forward progress isnt enough. Need to bring him to the ground
Easy to figure when you compare who is on offense and consider if that team is viewed a cash cow for ESPN or not. If yes, they get extra time to push ahead for a first down, if no they get the ball spotted short by at least a half yard no matter what it looks like regarding where he is tackled or actual
Forward progress. Easy to rig the game this way as a general rule because no one will cite it as cheating.
Penix has NFL WRs and an O-line that has kept him clean all season. Getting pressure tonight and he is rattled. Missing easy throws. Makes me appreciate DJ and how underrated he’s been this season. Throws he’s been making with regularity the previous 3 weeks, Penix is missing bad. Hopefully the Beavers blitz the shit out of him when they play.
Cam Rising will not play this season
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38716070/utah-cam-rising-shut-remainder-season
Reallt hope we end up with 5 1-loss Pac12 teams at the end of the day. Beavs would own their destiny for a final 2 finish.
Wow, 2 handed jersey grab, they throw the PI flag on UW and then pick it up and say the “no flag, the contact was legal”
ASU should be livid
And then a pick 6. Game was just handed to the Huskies.
It’s really just such blatant WWE garbage
Obvious PI on UW is picked up and announced that such contact is not illegal. Yeah we know, you haven’t called it all night on UW
And ASU goes for the hard coug.
ASU wins this game by double digits with a legit QB. This dude is terrible. Bourguet is horrendous. Doesn’t help that the refs won’t enforce obvious pass interference penalties on UWs secondary
Washington has to play SC on the road and Utah afterwards.
I think they lose both games, if SC doesn’t give up on the season.
Wow refs gave this one to UW. Holding or PI call and that pick 6 doesn’t happen. Probably leads to points for asu too.
The last 6 downfield passes for ASU had obvious PI but not a call yet.
Penix takes one shot to the end zone and the ref throws the flag on less contact than any of the previous ASU possessions.
Not a good look and good to at least see the announcers highlighting the cheating is pretty obvious.
Perhaps ASU can recover for the one miraculous drive to end the game and get a touchdown. Not expecting it but hoping for justice at this point.
Going for it on 4th decsion.
ASU could have been 10 to 6 and now UW will win.
Need to kick the ball there. I know they missed two earlier but you’ve only got so many redzone plays.
True, plus if you kick the ball then the pick six never happens as it was on 4th down.
Refusing to kick field goals/punt and instead going for 4th downs is a mind virus traveling through all coaches and all circumstances. So many baffling strategic errors with little awareness to the consequences.
Yeah, it just won’t stop.
Kind of random, but I noticed in the PAC-12 commercial they show on Fox, Oregon State has on a uniform combo they haven’t worn in several years. Is it THAT difficult to find and use more recent footage of the Beavs?
I don’t think at this time the Pac 12 people are interested in making us look good…….
Understatement of the season. Notice how mention of Utah’s 6-1 record without Rising, nobody mentions the team they lost to.
Beavs will need an insurance TD in every game.
Dogs should not be celebrating this one.
So that means we should be getting lots of calls in the next 3 games since we’re still in the running against teams out of the picture. Tv wants those Beavs vs huskies/oregon ratings.
Not likely, expect UW, Oregon to get all of the calls and everyone else who has a chance (Utah, OSU) to get hosed since it has apparently already been determined that UW and Oregon get to have a rematch in Las Vegas for the conference championship
So I got to check driving the wrong way on an interstate off my bucket list today.
Long day to get to Portland, and I get home to turn on the TV and see UW winning a game against ASU, 12-7, and that USC lost to Utah… again.
Whoa, wrong way!
Glad you survived.
They shut down the freeway before the Woodburn exit. And a lot of us were past the Gervais exit, when it happened.
It was surreal to watch a whole freeway turn around and then drive the other way… stop and go, of course.
O.O
Not the situation to be in; scary!
I checked it off about 30 years ago. Pretty close to the same area (Aurora exit). An old man in a beat-up truck looking as calm as a cucumber cruising south on I-5 North towards Salem in the left lane, we passed him in the right line (weird experience). It was before cell phones, so we called the police from the rest area before Wilsonville, but the police were already on it. No one was injured.
Yup….we are screwed!!! The powers that be want a UO vs UW rematch for the PAC championship!
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2023/10/21/pac-12-officials-slammed-asu-football-washington-game/71280343007/
Hard to believe that Yvenson “fumble” on the goal line against Washington was nearly 20 years ago.
Yeah, I was at that game…we thought he scored the touchdown from the upper deck.
No official upsets this past weekend in the PAC12 but every game helped the Beavs.
UW showed it was mortal with a terrible showing vs ASU. And the Beavs get them after they play Utah so they’ll be feeling pretty beat up that week.
UCLA should win their next three games and likely 4 of the last 5. This could turn into the best resume win for the Beavs. Three loss teams usually end up as a top 20 team.
Utah beating USC helps in two ways. Builds the Beavs resume, and now Beavs own the tiebreaker vs USC.
Oregon beating WSU pretty much prevents any kind of tie with WSU had they won. If WSU wins their next three vs ASU, Stanford and Cal, they’ll end with a winning record. So won’t be seen as a bad loss.
But of course, none of it matters if the Beavs don’t get by Arizona this week. Early line has Beavs favored by 5.
An indicator of how AP voters are viewing Utah winning last night carrying more weight than the Beavs handling Utah easily a few weeks ago.
Joel Klatt has Utah jumping clear up to 9, while Beavs are still down at 12.
https://twitter.com/joelklatt/status/1715978491223757147?t=tS1dyBjtatgltkqpBNX78A&s=19
When the national media doesn’t believe you “should be” a contender, they will try and delegitimize every win. Before the UCLA game, he said “this game is more about UCLA.” He then picked them to win. When Oregon State won fairly comfortably, he didn’t even bring the game up. He spent quite a bit on Stanford and Colorado on his podcast and just pretended Oregon State didn’t even play lol. If Oregon State wins out in the regular season, they’ll just say the other team beat themselves. It’s beyond comical at this point but unsurprising
It is just predictable that Beavs will be slotted as the 4th best 1 loss team for the entire season, until they beat UW and Oregon, then they jump up.
Beavs need to continue to just win. The next 3 weeks are the lightest schedule left for the contenders. Multiple head to head games between UW, USC, Oregon, UCLA, Utah upcoming and guaranteed losses will pile up between the contending teams, UCLA and OSU have most favorable schedules to add wins, all of the rest may trade losses among themselves. I like what Jim Wilson observes and how the Beavs are the most balanced team in the conference and it will be an advantage.
So… root for SC the rest of the way, until they play the Bruins.
Good thing he’s not a voter in the poll
Klatt is versus biased here at least for this week. He is calling the Utes – Ducks game this week and wants to say it is a Top 10 matchup in his mind to try to get some more viewers.
Tbh, I really don’t care about polls.
The only thing I care about is winning the Pac 12 Championship.
Until that’s done, polls can kiss my ass.
https://collegepolltracker.com/football/
Here’s where to track how all the voters voted. Week 9 will be out soon.
The more I think about the UW game last night, the more convinced I get that the Beavs just won’t make any major waves this season, either because they won’t win the games based on performance or because they won’t be allowed to.
I’m still curious how the rankings would fall out if Utah and OSU both go 11-1, with OSU owning the tiebreaker and Utah not even playing WSU this year.
In the standings, OSU would be ahead. But the CFP rankings are less mathematical and more judgement.
I think yesterday taught us that both oregon and UW are very beatable teams and could drop 1 or more along the way.
Beavs need to have a good showing against Arizona. Keep pressure on Fifita, get him to throw ill advised balls into coverage. He’s good at making the short easy throws and just letting their speed guys grab extra yardage.
Also, Arizona didnt have an INT until they played WSU, so they ‘should’ be a team we can throw against if the run game just isnt there. Keys to the game, silence the crowd early and win the turnover battle.
Not sure Utah pulls off many more big wins. The other defenses they play are much better than USC’s.
And run the ball
I think Beavers can and likely will beat UW.
Beavers run game is under appreciated. They showed previously stout Utah and UCLA that…
OSU is #11 in the AP
Sounds about right.
Beavs are 3 pts away from being a top 6 ranked team.
Gotta focus on Arizona now
Everyone should stop worrying about the ranking week to week. It’s a virtual certainty that a 1-Loss Pac12 team will be in the playoff this season. Beavs just need to win out and they’ll be undeniable. If they lose any of their remaining games, I think we can all agree they don’t deserve to make the playoff (outside of some crazy scenario where they still get into the title game with 2 losses, win that, and enough other teams nationally also lose multiple games).
Seems right, just win!
Hopefully in this off week Bray has reacquainted the defense with the art of tackling. If they tackle instead of bump, this could be a very special 5 weeks ahead. Also hope the coaches can keep them grounded with higher poll numbers. I am optimistic of 11-1.
Early betting line is all over for nike @ Utah. Seeing everything from Utah -2.5 (Ceasers) to +5.5 (Ilani).
Beavs pretty consistent -4.5 to -5 even.
Gotta wonder how long that +5.5 for Utah will last.
Utah’s new QB looks pretty good. At least with his legs. Expect it to be very close, the under probably the best bet to make.
Yeah he seemed good enough, which is all they really need.
Only rankings that matter(playoff) come out on Oct 31. I think then we will get more of a true sense where teams sit.
Beavs are 7-2 in Tucson since JS led them to that defining win in 1999.
Pretty sure they Beavs hadn’t won at Arizona Stadium prior to that.
1999 they played Arizona in Corvallis. 2000 was the first time OSU ever won in Tucson.
You are correct. I forgot but I wasn’t at the 1999 game.
Trung Canidate was the TB for the Cats
Meant I WAS there for the 1999 game. Pretty sure it ended with a 35-21 beavs win and was the 7th win of the season.
I just remember the PA announcer saying as we were walking out of the stadium “beaver fans, it’s time to go bowling”
Good memories!
Rewatched highlights of Utah, Cal, UCLA….DJ seems to be improving, better rapport w/WRs, Velling…Martinez still Martinez, Fenwick has an extra burst this year….if the D can get back to tackling, i can see a Fiesta bowl…don’t think refs will let them win in Autzen…they’ll really have to put up a points cushion there and hang on.
I see Chiles playing a game changing role at some point, maybe Howard gets DE snaps as a pass rusher and surprises v. UW and @ UO…
Fuck. Gameday will be Uo@Utah…
Go Utes!
ESPN has switched their ratings wagon from Colorado to Oregon for the rest of the way.
“This attention slut’s skirt is shorter! That green lipstick matches her thong! At that Nike tattoo! Wooo!”
I think however magical this season ends up being will all come down to our resilience. We have different strengths this season compared to last, but not completely different. Beavs have shown thus far that they’re progressing game-by-game, and year-by-year. Both players and fans seemingly expect at much. The resilience factor though comes down to managing controllables and buffering/minimizing setbacks.
So far we’ve seen as much vs. Wazzu where we refused to rollover (hostile away game), vs. Utah where we made bone head mistakes (play calling at odds with execution capabilities), vs. Cal where we couldn’t stop them and had to rely on offense primarily, (became one-dimensional), and UCLA where the refs attempted to tip the scales (lack of external support), plus distractions on where we end up as the PAC dissolves around us.
Throughout all of this, we maintained composure and executed until the end. Washington held a similar resilient mentality thru their matchup with AZ. Some called it a “bend, don’t break” approach. You could feel the pick 6 (or whatever momentum shift) coming and once it did, they coasted to another W in the books. The question will be if we can weather the impending storms headed our way?
I sure do hope our tackling improves so I can stop pulling my hair out, but believe we’re in line for another 10 win season. How special could it be though? That depends on how well we manage hardships in the moment. The margins are thin for what kind of bounce-back is available if/when extra variables are blocking your path. So far this season though we’ve done well as the favorite, and I anticipate as much after the break. Our resolve so far appears strong and that makes us very dangerous.
“Some called it a “bend, don’t break” approach.”
With regard to the puppies, it was more a “suck, don’t lose, and get a lot of help from the refs,” game.
Ya Washington got gifted that game they didn’t earn it.
Every game forward is an elimination game. Not just for the Beavs, but Utah and 0regon too. Huskies have a “game to give” right now.
So the number of teams with a playoff shot will be trimmed by at least one this week.
It would help the Beavs if WSU could straighten up and finish the season on a win streak.
Gonna be tough for the Cougs to finish better than .500. Ward is a capable QB but they just have no ability to run the ball consistently and the defense has fallen apart. Their remaining schedule is actually fairly easy but the Cougs are no better than a coin flip against any Pac12 team at this point.
We just need them to beat the Huskies, and at least 6-6/get to a bowl game so the loss to them isn’t a bad loss. But they may win 3 more games still: @ASU, Stanford, @Cal, Colorado & @UW left…
I think the Beavs to have a great season (11-1 or even 10-2), their defense needs to step up big time. Starting this week in Tucson. If they don’t I can see us losing a couple shootouts with our offense scoring 40-45 points and us still losing.
Give me a high powered offense, in any sport versus a super stout defense because you have to score to win an you always have a punchers chance to come back and win. But with that being said you still have to play good defense. I know, I know. Defense wins championships, but I’d still rather have a high powered offense. More entertaining as well.
Ask usc how that’s working out. Defense keeps you in games. You will have bad offensive nights. Ohio state just won ugly 20-12. Offense can get it together as the year goes on and good coaches can find matchups to explore in big games.
Defenses can score too. But it doesn’t matter either way, you can’t be too lop sided. If your defense is on the field the whole game, at some point they’re going to give up some points. Your offense has to get some first downs.
Oregon and Washington look pretty good. The problem with USC is that they have no defense. Like I said you still have to play good defense.
Also, I would not consider Ohio St to have a high powered offense and Penn States offense is horrible!
‘iTs BEcuZ dEFenCes aRe So aWeSOme iN tHE b1g’
Game in Boulder will also be a late kick.
7pm on ESPN
And being on ESPN, you know it will be a Colorado love fest. So that will make it worse. Looks like I’ll be listening to Parker on radio while game on TV lol
I guarantee it will be that racist Mark Jones calling the game. It will be about CU and Prime all the time and we are just getting in the way.
Whatever it is, just win.
Ucla gonna rough them up a bit before we go there too, which is good timing
Deion won’t like that – Amazing the degree to which the power system will go to keep OSU off the radar.
Don’t ESPN and Fox have first dibs when selecting games? We’re on ESPN and if this is the case, we were probably the 2nd choice after USC UW.
We’ve had very few on P12 this season. Aren’t they guaranteed a certain number?
3 I believe.
That would mean Stanford will be on PAC12 for sure. No way vs UW will be on PAC12 network.
But I did see an article from Wilner about ESPN and ABC having more windows this year after the BIG10 left and the contract with the SEC doesn’t start until next year. So maybe that requirement is ignored this year if the games can be on ESPN or ABC.
So would you guys rather face Jayden de Laura who is a better passer and doesn’t run as much or Fifita who can scramble around and ran all over the teams they’ve played? From what I’ve read Jayden may be back and starting.
JDL
Who on the current Beavs roster played against JDL when he was the new, freshman QB for the Cougs?
They have a pretty good QB controversy this week.
JDL is 2-0 vs the Beavs but has not been great this year
Fifita is the hot starter but inexperienced
Lean toward Fifita because now there is enough film on him to really plan a defense against him.
We’ve played against de Laura before, right? Don’t think we’ve played against Fifita.
If I’m Arizona, I say both likely to play.
As an Arizona fan I can tell you that you’d rather be playing JDL. And that you’re going to be playing Fifita. JDL is talented, but reckless. Cannot go through progressions and starts running around like a chicken with his head cut off. Which sometimes leads to an amazing scramble or completion downfield…but for every great play that results there will be two disasters that result from it. Fifita is very, very smart. Goes through his professions and takes what is there. Is not fast, but is athletic enough to take the 8 yard run when nothing else is there. The fanbase is 1,000% behind Fifita and Fisch would be roasted if he starts JDL. Fisch isn’t naming a starter in the press, he’s saying ‘we have 2 qb’s’. Which is fine, there’s no reason to publicly state your plan. But rest assured, Fifita is the man and will be the starter.
Thanks for the info. I was impressed when you guys played USC. Calm in the pocket and didn’t make any stupid plays which of course is a good sign but even better in a hostile environment on the road. Seems like it’s less of a two qb thing where they’d bring JDL in for a few plays here and there.
BASEBALL:
Word is Josh Worden will do the radio broadcast from Surprise
JS bay signal fellas
Any guess’ besides the likely kicker?
I’d say the corner from florida possibly, or qb that was commited to Utah state would be the most likely outside of the kicker it most likely is
It’s the kicker.
DAM Right!
A couple profile pages for the new kicker. He decommitted from Boise St.
https://www.kohlskicking.com/player-profiles/martin-connington
https://www.chrissailerkicking.com/player-rankings/profile?player=11444
With a tweet from JS, it sounds like he’ll be on scholarship. With Hayes graduating, they’ll have two kickers on the roster next year. Will need to bring in a walk on as well for depth purposes. Or he might compete for the punter job too as Green is gone next year.
Don’t they generally recruit kickers and punters as PWO and then give them a scholarship when they start? He better be that good if we’re going to have two kickers on scholarship.
He’s ranked higher as a punter, so I’m guessing he’ll at least fill that role. Wouldn’t be a stretch to have both a K and a P on scholarship. The “only recruit PWO” strategy hasn’t worked out great under Cookus has it?
I thought he was rated higher as a kicker. I think the PWO is how all schools do it.
If everyone is doing it one way, seems like you could gain a competitive advantage doing it differently…
Wait… making ST an important part of the game isn’t (or shouldn’t) be a thing?
Cover all bases.
He’s a 6 star according to the website.
Projected FBS power 5 freshman starter.
I’m hearing that JS isn’t satisfied with 5 stars qbs or 6 star kickers and will bat signal tomorrow for a 10 star long snapper named Sidney McFinch, he can snap a football 80mph.
But is he accurate?!
I hate it when coaches fall in love with a deep snapper’s high velocity balls…”He’s got arms talent. Can really spin it!”
“Highly projectable tools”
Arizona game feels a lot like UCLA. Beavs are favored but if things go wrong early the Beavs could be in for a real battle.
Arizona’s coach comments on the matchup. Pretty good summation of what we’ll see on Sat.
On how different OSU is to Arizona’s last 3 opponents: “Schematically they are extremely different. They’re a much more under center team, they’re not a spread team. They are willing to play with a fullback, which we haven’t seen really since you UTEP. They have some really good skill players on the perimeter, which is what we’ve been going against every week. They have a very good quarterback which, we’ve been going against every week. But what they do and how they use them and what they do in their running game is very different and unique. Defensively, similar in some regard. They’re a cover 4 team and a man team, a lot of teams play a 4-down front that they play And they just play it at a very, very high level. I would say their defense over the last few years is one of the best defenses in the Pac-12, statistically along with what you see on tape, so they’re going to be a quite a challenge there.”
A way to beat Cover 4 is to run a lot of mesh routes, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Arizona calls that quite a bit between the 20’s on Saturday.
You mean pick plays?
I never like the pick plays and it isn’t flagged nearly enough to discourage it.
But if the defender is running toward the receiver and gets in his way on the route it is a pass interference call. The game needs more Dick Butkus and less Lincoln Riley. If Lincoln Riley sent a wr on a crossing route Butkus would close line the receiver once in order to deter the next 10 times.
Updated cover 4 for crossing routes would be multiple flagrant fouls on the same play as an adjustment. ;)
Illegal contact is only a five yard penalty
Automatic first down, as well.
So only commit it on a first down.
Looking at the rules, the NCAA doesn’t have illegal contact as a foul. It’s either Holding or PI.
There is a legal contact zone within five yards of the neutral zone, where a defender can “block” an eligible receiver, but only above the waist and before the ball is passed.
https://apple.news/A_AqMbRYdStOAdk3vz4FEgA
Interesting comments here about how behind college football is in terms of in-game technology (some coaches suggest they’re behind HS football). Also some inference that this is at the heart of the Michigan sign-stealing thing. Teams wouldn’t have to worry about sign stealing if they used some kind of wireless device like PitchCom.
These college football leaders are such dinosaurs.
“These college football leaders are such dinosaurs.”
Amen.
Good article from Yahoo Sports about possible scheduling “alliance” with MWC ala Notre Dame while the legal stuff with PAC 12 plays out.
https://sports.yahoo.com/how-a-new-alliance-proposal-involving-washington-state-oregon-state-could-impact-college-football-playoff-120044854.html
Chip Kelly suggested we all go independent for football and put other sports into conferences. I don’t know how you get networks to want certain colleges if they don’t draw big ratings. Notre Dame can do this. How many people across the US care about UCLA football.
This has seemed like the best temporary plan for OSU/WSU.
Hang around the Pac2 for as long as you can (2 years max) and reap the benefits of any legal decision.
If they join the Big12 before the legal decision is made, they’d be pissing away the assets they stand to gain (if the case is decided in their favor, of course)
Those assets are worth far more than any 2 years of conference payouts from even the highest paying conferences.
Then, use those 2 years to find the best fit for the program going forward (joining another P4 conference or re-building the Pac)
The mountain west teams have an incentive to work with us in this scheduling Alliance, plus I’ve read that OSU/WSU can actually play each other twice in the same season in a home/home type agreement.
Plus we already have 3 Non-Con games scheduled already for 2024/2025
Schedule would look something like this:
2024 = Idaho St, Boise St, Purdue, WSU home, WSU away (plus 7 additional games to be scheduled)
2025 = Port St, Fresno St, Texas Tech, WSU home, WSU away (plus 7 additional games)
Yes, it will be alot of Mountain West games in each season, but they don’t have to only schedule MW teams.
Who knows, by the time those 2 years are over, ESPN may be bankrupt and unable to support their Big12 Media deal anyway.
https://cordcuttersnews.com/could-espn-be-facing-bankruptcy-because-of-spectrum-its-reportedly-possible/
UCLA plays a road game at Hawaii in 2024, so they have an opportunity to add an extra (13th) game that season.
Stanford and Sam Houston both play a road game in Hawaii in 2025. Both teams have room to add 2 additional home Non-con games that year.
There was a Canzano article recently where he talked with Port State coach Bruce Barnum and Barnum said OSU had asked PSU if they’d be willing to move their 2025 game to a different date, so that could be part of OSU doing the leg work to get fit into another teams schedule while keeping PSU still on the slate.
Hopefully we don’t play 8 mountain west games. Arizona, ASU, Cal, Stanford and Utah need games too so maybe we can mix things up
As long as we don’t play UW or Oregon in any sport, I’ll be happy with whoever they play
This.
Fuck them both.
It will be a blessing for once, that USC doesn’t want anything to do with either of us.
Notre Dame only has 10 games scheduled in 2025. Why not go big and try to schedule the Irish?
So apparently UW’s attempt to join and dismiss the OSU/WSU suit hinges on the argument that courts don’t have authority to interpret the bylaws of a voluntary association. They cite a prior decision where the ruling related to an association attempting to substitute the court’s judgment for that of the members in a matter where members clearly had more expertise. OSU/WSU argue this isn’t the case here and prior documents stating USC/UCLA gave up voting rights clearly asserts the conference’s interpretation of bylaws. Also that the court ought to protect them from clearly malicious action by the other members.
Still seems like the UW/others case is weak, but I’m obviously reading this with orange-colored glasses.
Also of note: UW joined the case the day discovery was due and filed a motion to extend the date for discovery. OSU/WSU state that this is (obviously) a ploy by the T10 to avoid discovery.
Slightly OT: Are the teams that are leaving going to share the revenue from the past performances of the current teams in their new conferences?
*playoff performances
They share whatever their new conference has earned, if they negotiated that upon joining–which technically takes place once the ink dries on such a contract.
“courts don’t have authority to interpret the bylaws of a voluntary association.”
Does the court know how to interpret cockamamie?
How about, “Where in Sam Hill did you go to law school, child?”
I fully expect the judge to return a decision somewhere along the lines of, “What the hell are you trying to suggest with this bullshit?”
Wouldn’t playing 8 MWC games actually be a good chance for us to boost our record while still bringing in P12 money? It increases our chances of being ranked higher and staying visible in the polls.
It would be interesting to see how the polls treat us if we beat up on a bunch of MWC teams.
Its working for AirForce
Exactly. They started with no votes anywhere and have worked their way up with Wyoming being their biggest quality win.
It’s working for Michigan.
Downside to 8 MWC is the pollsters will wait for 1 loss and punish PAC2 to keep them just enough outside looking in with out a shot at the playoffs.
Best case scenario is hold for 2 years, take in the conference payouts and develop 6 schools into future PAC8 members with great sports programs after added budget increases. Also reformat PAC12 netwyinto a money making streaming platform and get a 2 year jump on other conferences while the mega conference format falls flat due to ESPN overreach and cable TV collapsing.
Beavs could still be top 12, get into playoffs, build up fellow west coast institutions to join, create a new streaming network and strengthen our own athletics department apart from USC/UW/Oregon attempting to dictate terms and undermine conference growth.
Adain is going to transfer out because smith is wasting his redshirt. (Sarcasim)
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2023/10/oregon-state-freshman-qb-aidan-chiles-living-out-his-college-dream-im-in-the-perfect-position-right-now.html?outputType=amp
What a team! Chiles and DJ are so refreshing.
The risk i see though is Chiles is clear he loves Smith. If Smith leaves….
BUT, i think Smith stays a couple more years to see how conference transition goes, then evaluates. USC could be open by then (ha!), and Smith is from Cal. It could be attractive to him if Beavers are stuck in MWC.
Other than USC’s money, why would anyone want to work for an organization that has shown its dysfunction and back-biting is simply ingrained in its culture?
I agree, but IF for example Smith didn’t want to coach MWC, and he wanted to get back to So Cal…
USC certainly wouldn’t be patient enough to let him build an actual program.
Be kinda funny if Caleb Williams says “No chance for playoffs? I’m done and training for the draft to protect my health and future earnings.”
After UO though…
Wow, just catching up on some USC news/rumors that Riley has been out “sick” the oast 2 days of practice and USC is looking to promote Kliff Kingsbury from an analyst position to an on field coaching role while Riley is out.
So either Riley is legitimately that sick, or he’s already jumping ship mid-season to his next job. That’s nuts. If Riley is out, you may be right that Williams may shut it down too. Wouldn’t surprise me
Did Riley secretly get tarmacked?
That’s an awesome vote of confidence for all the other coaches, that an analyst gets the nod.
Watching Arizona’s highlights from the last few games, they can move the ball pretty well. Put up over 500 yards in the last two games. They throw a lot of underneath routes and let their guys run in space. Then mix in downfield shots here and there. Run game compliments the pass game pretty well. Fifita isn’t a runner but can extend plays. One weakness I see in Fifita is that he’ll sometimes throw across the field for a short pass. He does not have a plus arm. Those are ripe for pick sixes.
Defensively, not sure what they’ll do vs the Beavs as they faced passing first offenses the last three games and they haven’t really faced a run first team like the Beavs all year. Probably try to look at the WSU game for insights. All out blitzing.
Beavs on offense just need to play their game. Smash mouth football. Run the ball and play action. Dominate the TOP early and the Arizona defense will wear down.
On defense, it’s all about tackling. With Arizona getting the ball out early and in space, tackling and limiting YAC is the key to victory. Bray will also need to bring some creative looks to confuse Fifita.
I don’t know if I consider this a trap game since everyone thinks it’ll be close game. Could make the argument that it’s more of a trap game for Arizona after experiencing a big high on the road. X Factor is DeLaura, expect Fifita to start but JDL to come in if he struggles.
I think there’s something to be said about AZ coming off a break as well. Yes, both sides are benefited by the additional time to heal and prep, but I think it will harm AZ’s momentum after their bumpy start. Beavs roll 34-23
OT: Warriors vs Phoenix game featured two former OSU guys. Payton (GP2) tried to dunk over Eubanks, but Eubanks wouldn’t have it. Eubanks missed the block but GP2 missed the dunk. Worth a look if someone can find the replay.
Here is the highlight: https://youtu.be/YnfOpVh3cNs?si=AHqvA6p09grHXRVP
“Eubanks missed the block, but GP2 missed the dunk.”
If this doesn’t epitomize the Tinkle era, I don’t know what does.
I mean they were the ones who broke the NCAA tourney drought…
I’m not throwing shade at those particular guys. Remove the names and that sounds a whole lot like 5-27, 3-28…you get the gist.
There hasn’t been much noise around the Pac12 mediation and pending trial coming up mid-November, but this WSU blogger has obtained a few recent court filings from the Pac2 legal team to the court.
They’re in response to the UW brief that was filed a week or 2 back, where the 9 other schools essentially said they’ll let UW speak for them.
There are a couple of exhibits attached as well, basically 2 separate prior court documents where GK swore under penalty of purgary that only 10 schools were active board members(at that time) because USC/UCLA had been removed from the board. One of those documents Wilner already shared with the Comcast story 2 weeks ago, and the other I hadnt seen before.
The one argument I dont see the Pac2 try to counter is whether
the “irreperable harm” exists.(or i could have missed that part)
Anyway, if you’re bored and enjoy staying up to speed on where OSU/WSU stand, it’s worth a read.
https://billfarley.substack.com/p/dont-mind-that-coup-behind-the-curtain?r=of4cg&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
He points out that UO has 57% out of state students, that revenue from out of state tuition dwarfs any sports media contract, that UO is one of only 11 universities nationwide with more out of state enrollees than in state, that joining the Big 10 is anticipated to increase out of state enrollment through east coast exposure, and even claims UO is part of a trend where some school old actually accept wealthy out of state applicants over equally-qualified in-state applicants.
Truly the University of California at Eugene. Makes you wonder if a school out-of-state objectives like that deserves state taxpayer support.
And he says OSU has 74% in-state students
Out of state applications to OSU spiked after the Fiesta Bowl win. We just need to keep winning, and beat big time opponents.
Cal State Eugene is what we’ve called the University of Phil for eons.
Skimming the article, it sounds as though UO wants to connect with what it considers the blue bloods to the east. California associations are too pedestrian.
Might want to check the context of those stats. OSU is not 74% in state students. OSU reports 53%. Oregon reports 49.9% in state.
https://institutionalresearch.oregonstate.edu/sites/institutionalresearch.oregonstate.edu/files/2022-11/enroll-fall-2022.pdf
https://registrar.uoregon.edu/statistics/facts-at-glance
Maybe they were referring to on-campus. Your link says the drop in in-state at OSU is mainly due to online students.
That’s 53% in 2021. It’s 51.4% in 2022.
But that’s all students–graduate, ecampus, Cascades, post-bac, and part time. ecampus is a large segment, with only 25% of the students being residents.
I still doubt the number for in-state full time first degree students, since we can see that Cascades is at 77%, and that would be a more consolidated student population. But it does skew that way.
OSU ramped up international student enrollments as well and that may be showing in the percentage too.
Per OSU:
Enrollment Summary — Fall Term 2022
https://institutionalresearch.oregonstate.edu/sites/institutionalresearch.oregonstate.edu/files/2022-11/enroll-fall-2022.pdf
deja vu?
There was a different WSU guy on Twitter that mentioned the PAC2’s addressing of irreparable harm. They didn’t go into detail, but basically talked about them losing their agency to entities which were clearly intending to harm them.
Imagine if OSU wins out and misses out on the playoffs because of a 3 pt loss to the other Pac2 team….
Luck o the Beavs….
To be replaced by the second place SEC or B1G team.
It’s a long season and this weekend could be upset Saturday as Ohio State, Georgia, Florida State, and Oklahoma are all on the road against teams with winning records. We could be in the drivers seat.
Would mention the quacks but I don’t think Utah over Oregon would be classified as an upset.
A one-loss Pac 12 team not making the CFP would be the icing on the cake.
2000 vibes
Yeah, i think it would be kind of funny if OSU got a Fiesta bowl invite – “the Prodigal Son returns…”
prefer CFP obviously for exposure and weight it carries for program moving forward..
Imagine going 11-1 or 10-2 and ending up in the LA bowl because of ESPN’s handwaving.
Wilner has a new Mercury times which basically has the same info that was in that blog post I put up above in the thread last night.
If you don’t have a Mercury sub (who does even?) you’ll likely find the same story for free on the Seattle Times Sports twitter page shortly. They usually show up over there an hour or 2 after Wilner posts the Mercury links.
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1717273166446489995
Ross Dellenger and Nicole Auerbach both have a new story covering essentially the same topic. The Dellenger one is free:
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1717275006298644657
What is uw and Oregon even trying to do. The gist of what I understand is- they think they ahould still have a right to vote on pac12 issues. Is that the only thing here?
Because their wrong, they know they’re wrong, and just delaying the inevitable
They’re just abusing the legal system to delay
I think the 10 teams know they have the votes to do anything they want with the remaining conference assets if they are allowed a 12 team vote(any 9 votes would do it)
The scary thing about that os any 9 teams can get together and vote that OSU/WSU deserve nothing, and nobody can stop them.
I’m sure they are also afraid the Pac2 will cut the other teams out completely.
But…..fuck em.
They dont deserve any consideration in future Pac dealings. They get their normal media distribution, but anything coming to the conference post August 2024 they’ve waived their rights to.
This is the whole argument.
That we would screw them in this year is a specious argument.
LOL Kliavkoff texted OSU/WSU/Cal/Stanford and told them there were only 4 board members left. How is there any confusion after that?
Wow. That’s the first I’ve seen of that. Pretty hard to argue at that point.
That was new from discovery (via WSU/OSU). Imagine what they would get from the other 10 if they hadn’t delayed!
I havent reviewed the discovery documents yet, but somebody online was saying Canzano was the reporter in the text from GK about only 4 board members being left.
So he might be the one who provided that evidence? Or GK did
Probably Canzano so he can be seen as a friend to the program and keep his access.
Not sure if this was mentioned but as of now, DJU has the 2nd highest QBR in the Pac 12 according to ESPN
Penix 85.7
DJU 84.8
Williams 84.7
Nix 83.3
Fifita 81.5
Sanders 72.4
Ward 72.3
Mendoza 68.7
Barnes 53.1
Daniels 51.5
Bourguet 45.3
Moore 37.8
There was just a USA Today article that ranked him as #6 for draft-eligible QB’s according to QBR
I’m sure that’s for a certain amount of snaps.
Chile’s probably tops the list .
But he ain’t gonna be a star, according to many coaches.
funding autcorrect!
Ducking count.
As DJ goes, the Arizona game will go?
Not necessarily. See “War, Civil. 2022”
I’m really impressed by Fenwick’s burst this year. He really stands out when he accelerates. And Martinez is Martinez. Need 6 yards? Here’s 8. Need 19? Here’s 12…
Everyone should go back and watch highlights but focus on Fuaga. He is just beastly and a first round grade seems appropriate. UCLA lined up Latu on the opposite side most of the game. Latu’s only sack came from the left side. Fuaga shut him down on his side.
Fuaga ragdolls defenders.
It’s a little perverse watching it happen.
He seemed a decent offensive line unit pickup back in 2020; at the time I don’t believe he was seen as exceptional.
In Coach M we trust.
“Need *10, here’s 12…”
I think there is a strong possibility that at least 3 teams ahead of Beavers lose this weekend.
Texas qb Ewers is out and they are playing BYU in Austin, but I almost give BYU the edge and hope they can’t beat up Texas a bit.
Georgia goes to Florida, and I’m hopeful that without Brock Bowers the Georgia offense grinds to a halt. Beck may get antsy and make some bad reads/interceptions. Hopefully Florida can score and Mertz doesn’t commit his usual 2 turnovers a game.
Utah will give us the template for beating Oregon just as they did with UCLA. Oregon title hopes go down in flames this weekend at Rice Eckels.
Florida St at Wake Forest is less likely but FSU tends to sleepwalk through a half and could let Wake stay in the game.
Oklahoma at Kansas may be a sleeper upset too because Kansas will score points and their defense has the ability to force turnovers, which Oklahoma has been susceptible to on offense. Gabriel sometimes tries to play hero ball and becomes a liability. I think Venables is a goofball head coach and will make bad decisions eventually as the pressure mounts this season. Leipold will have some tricks ready for this one too.
Ohio St at Wisconsin may be a good one to watch. If Fickell has his offense finally clicking, Buckeyes may be in trouble on the road. Wisconsin may be able to slow down the Buckeyes offense just enough. Refs have been giving them a lot of calls favoring Harrison on routes that keep drives going though.
I’m guessing at least 3/6 of these finish as upsets.
Meanwhile I think the Beavs win in Tucson by 2 scores/touchdowns just like at Cal. Even if the Beavs need to score in the 40’s or 50’s I don’t think Arizona can slow down the Beavs balanced offense.
Go Beavs!
Man I wish I could get on board with some of this optimism. I really could care less about national rankings. We’re entering our murderer’s row part of the schedule, and I believe we’ve peaked as far as national rankings are concerned. Utah beating the ducks? Offensively, the Utes are a walking MASH unit. SI has an article already talking about ‘next year’s’ Big 12 hopes. I still maintain the Beavs are a 3 loss team at the very least. Man I hope I’m wrong.
Schedule is tough but there’s reason to believe the Beavs should have at least a slight edge or be dead even in every remaining game (barring injuries of course). The odds of getting through completely unscathed are low but predicting 3 losses or more is tilting overly pessimistic. In terms of the Ducks against Utah, don’t believe Utah will be able to provide much of a template since they have the luxury of playing them at home where the crowd and defense have the opportunity to win the game without the defense doing much of anything. As you mentioned, Utah’s offense is in bad shape. Don’t expect them to be all that effective. Expect a close low-scoring game much like UW-ASU.
meant to say “without the OFFENSE doing much of anything”……..
I know USC’s defense is bad, but Utah did just hang 36 on them. With Barnes instead of Johnson, that offense still has some fight left in it.
An interesting memo Canzano dug up from the discovery documents. Written by the Pac12 conference VP of strategy Erik Hardenbergh in July, after Colorado left.
Sounds like the remaining 9 members were thinking about reducing payouts to USC/UCLA/Colorado for withdrawing early and causing financial damage to the conference.
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Hardenbergh wrote:
Subject to due process rights, the Pac-12 may reduce the anticipated $105M distributions to our departing members (Colorado, USC, and UCLA).
— Pac-12 bylaws allow the Board to issue penalties against members who withdraw before August 1, 2024.
— The Board is considering options, but we are contemplating seeking considerable financial damages against our departing members that could result in supplemental distributions to the remaining 9 universities.
”
So….I’m now on board with taking a cut of current distributions that are due to the 10 leaving for their 2024 compensation. Financial damages bitches.
And here they were, trying to take this money to cover their “transition expenses”
It could be that hardball has been the plan all along, just giving the T10 enough rope to hang themselves and compound their own PR mistakes. They Al knew the reduced payouts were in play before any of the last 7 left and yet they claim they should get additional funds to facilitate their migration to competing conferences out of PAC12 revenues. So insanely arrogant and ridiculous.
Is there anything that says they actually did punish the departing schools or reduce their distribution?
All I’m seeing is they “may” do something or they’re “contemplating” doing something. If they never actually did anything to USC, UCLA, and CU, then that doesn’t really support doing something to punish the other 7.
I’m just saying if the 7 schools plus the Pac2 were on board with punishing those 3 who left, then it’s an avenue we should explore, since they appeared to be cool with it.
I’d imagine no financial punishment was finalized because a month after Colorado left, the rest of the dominos fell too. They had new business on their minds.
I think taking their distribution in order to cover the expenses of adding 6 new schools is a fair penalty.
Of course I’m in the rebuild the PAC not force our way into the Big 12 camp.
The only thing I’d walk away from the lawsuit for is Big Ten with full distribution. Which won’t happen so I’d risk it all to rebuild.
But I get why coaches, recruiting, and revenue make that unrealistic without some outside support (donors or with enough bad PR maybe even the legislature) I get why they’d probably have to settle for Big 12.
Arizona backers really believe in their team,
https://www.azdesertswarm.com/football/2023/10/26/23930870/arizona-wildcats-football-osu-beavers-score-predictions-college-staff-2023-pac12
They certainly do seem to believe in their team. A couple sentences from the piece:
“The running back room, which may be better than Oregon State’s talented room, will continue their strong performance against a Beaver defense that has surrendered big games on the ground.”
“The key to stopping the Beavers is to force them to throw the ball, and if Arizona can do that its corners will have another big game like at WSU. “
At least they said “may be better”, but the passing remark seems to me to be out of touch, they’ve not been watching DJU over the last few games.
Arizona seems to be the hot pick, tons of websites are picking UA to win
Win the game or cover the spread?
Probably against the spread. With any spread of 3 or less though you are essentially betting on the +3 team to win the game. If you don’t believe they have a better than 50% chance to win outright you shouldn’t make the bet.
I’ve seen the same. Good, continue to write up the Cats and encourage them to assume a home win…
Most of the reasoning is “OSU is iffy on the road…defense has problems on the road…DJU can’t play like an above average qb on the road…”
Context is useful for each of those data points, and a bit more than historical assumptions.
WSU game seemed like their superbowl and the peak of their season so far, which the Beavs lost by 3,
Cal was starting a new qb with no film and a dramatically different skill set form their other guys, and Beavs controlled the game,
Beavs lost to UW and Utah last year, both ended up in top 3 conference…no comparison to Arizona
DJU was on point and had a great game at Cal, no sure thing to expect him to be rattled at UA,
SDSU, WSU, Utah, UCLA all had blitzing, pressure package d-line athletes with the motive to rattle DJU, I don’t expect UA to match any of those defenesive teams/fronts/approaches.
Advantages for OSU going into UA:
Bray has film and a 2 week window to prep for Fifita,
OSU offensive line will be the best that UA has faced, best running game as well
DJU has played 7 games in the offense and is settled in
UA may be reading their own press clippings and are setup for a major punch in the mouth letdown,
JS will not let the team lose focus
UA may be playing good but they don’t have the same motivation that OSU has as the PAC2 left behind
Night game is better than mid-day so not much of a home field advantage
UA crowd may leave early if Beavs control the game form early on
Special teams advantage Beavs
Beavs 42- UA 27
I think the motivation point may be the biggest key here. Normally this would be a major trap game for the Beavs but with so much still on the line the Beavs should be totally locked in. The fact that AZ has actually played well of late is almost helpful in terms of OSUs goals, basically guaranteeing they will show up with maximum intensity.
Arizona hasn’t had to face us, UCLA, or Utah yet.
The best D they’ve faced is their own.
Their D will find out what the O-line has to do with making the RB room look decent.
It’s a total toss up. Will be the Beavs toughest test to date. I’d consider the last 3 games for both teams basically identical. AZ loses two close games vs UW and USC then demolishes WSU. Beavs beat a Utah team with no QB, easy game vs Cal, solid win against a pretty good UCLA team. Tucson at night will be tough. For Vegas it all equals out to a 3 point edge for AZ. Someone above said the action is leaning toward AZ but I wouldn’t touch that bet either way.
Jonathan “Scratch Ticket River Boat Gamblin’ MF” too much on the road, doesn’t convert multiple times on fourth down instead of getting FGs, gets behind by double digits early, Beavs make come back similar to WSU, but then lose by 3.
Wildcats 31 – Beavs 28
Bray is the difference in the game and he has had 2 weka to prepare for Fifita and their short passing game. I figure JS has shifted his gambling and recognizes he has an NFL style of team and can play pretty straight without the gambling. Take points, punt for field position but he will go for it if it is the dagger to put the game out of reach.
DJU will be even better this game out of play action because UA thinks they use stop the run. UA is pretty high on the dbs but the linebackers can’t cover Veiling and stop the run.
Beavs are averaging 37 ppg, I don’t expect that to drop. No way UA defense is better than UCLA or Utah.
Really hope your analysis becomes reality. The road games scare me as this team seems to get out of their character….That Cal game really surprised me, the ease of which Cal scored and defensive mistakes. The defense has been more consistent and predictable, so it will come down to play calling and coaching. Unless JS does some crazy gambling, I expect the game to be close early on, and the running game to wear-out the Arizona defense for some easy scores by the 4th quarter and Beavs win by 10. But, I just can’t trust JS to not pull a couple of Dan Lannings on the road….hope I’m wrong!
AZ “flex” defense glad to have BYE week to prepare for Beavers:
https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/arizonas-defensive-flexibility-multiple-schemes-gives-us-an-advantage-sometimes/article_0b3703b2-72aa-11ee-9df5-53ac4df7694b.html
Be interesting to see how well DJ reads the D looks…
“Arizona running back Jonah Coleman is the highest-graded (90.7) running back by PFF entering this week”
Big test to stop this guy.
AZ is riding sooo high. I hope the Beavs can make a couple of deflating plays at the onset.
Hoping the run game from hell finally comes through and gets 400 yards on the ground
We had 2 weeks to prepare. There should be no excuses. The beavs need a season defining game and absolutely destroy Arizona, I just don’t think JS has it in him to squeeze the life out of an opposing team. It’s like he enjoys heartburn and IBS all at once.
Yeah especially when he’s up by two scores early, like he gets bored, then starts experimenting and gambling. WSU on the road every other year, CAL this year….
Beavs gonna roll Saturday- 42-13 over at halftime.
Beavs defense is going to come out and dominate the rest of the season- just a hunch
Maybe that’s his foot-to-neck move and when it backfires its basically a free-for-all playcalling wise. Does anyone know how we have played coming off a bye week in the past under JS? I seem to remember at least one WTF game where we looked like didn’t even watch any game film. Probably a Tibesar game.
Most write ups about the game talk about the matchup between OSU’s run offense and Arizona’s run defense. I wonder if it’s a disadvantage to be coming off a game vs WSU since they don’t have a run game. UCLA’s run defense gave up twice as much as their avg vs the Beavs after facing WSU’s heavy pass offense. Take out WSU and Arizona gives up 121 yds on the ground per game in conference play.
And the Beavs have faced two top 5 run defenses already with a decent amount of success, discounted a little because they were at home.
Weather looks nice. 70 degrees at kickoff.
Arizona has a Uiagalelei on the defensive line. His cousin I believe.
Yeah, I believe he’s a cousin, only 1 start but appeared in all 7 games. Interestingly, he went to Mater Dai, rival HS for DJ’s St John Bosco.
Cats also have a LB and a DL from Mater Dai along with a back up RB from Bosco.
Favoring an unranked .500 team over the national #11 doesn’t happen often. Is this the typical Beaver bias?
What are you talking about? OSU is a 3 point favorite.
We are favored by 3.5
Many Pundits are picking Arizona to cover or win outright. We are heading out from Bend today for the game. Don’t have a comfortable feel about this one, but 40 years as a Beaver alum, when have I?
This is what I was referring to
Could be one of those games where the Beavs could use the picks against them as motivation. As Colorado has shown, you can only use that so much in a year. The Beavs haven’t yet and this might be a good time to use it.
Agreed
All seven of Arizona’s games have been under the total in regulation. So they have a better defense than bettors think. Saturday’s total is 56.5.
In their 4 wins they’ve given up 68 yds/game rushing.
In their 3 losses they’ve given up 134 yds/game rushing.
Since the Beavs average 195 yds/game rushing and we’ve already played the two best defenses in the conference that bodes well for OSU.
https://x.com/cfbnumbers/status/1717570618072223881?s=46&t=_7yEwcDxoMzKGdRXG5Rv2A Saw this. DJ has been the best QB in the PAC-12 and doing it without NFL caliber receivers. The talent this team has at QB is insane
Fifita looks like a game manager with an average arm on that graph. Interesting where last years Heisman winner is; but don’t see pig farmer on there…maybe not enough reps.
The Arizona run D stats are an illusion. Look at who they played: all pass-heavy teams.
PFF grades say their run D is mediocre at best and their only above average defensive players are in the secondary.
Their offense is what’s potentially scary about them. This is going to be a slugfest.
I think you can bet they will be very aggressive against the run early. Probably a lot of new looks. They run a 4-2-5 base defense which isn’t the best vs the run unless they have a very strong d line
Just keep hitting them in the mouth. Oregon couldn’t handle it, I doubt AZ will be able to.
Shady shit from the desert?
https://www.azdesertswarm.com/platform/amp/football/2023/10/26/23934060/arizona-wildcats-football-jedd-fisch-michigan-connor-stalions-sign-stealing-rams-jim-harbaugh-2023
Nice redirection from by Fisch in the article. Sure I worked with the guy but don’t know much about him or what they do back there where I used to work, and that guy has nothing to do with UA football but the solution to the problem is we need to have mics in helmets like XFL and NFL…blah blah
Fisch looks like my life insurance agent or a small town grocery store owner. How is he winning if he isn’t cheating? Just kidding… sort of…but I smell something Fischy in the desert. Maybe this is a nice distraction for their bye week and Beavs gain an advantage.
Rumor when they hired him was he gave a really good PowerPoint presentation and that’s how he won out over bigger names. Maybe he borrowed from the Michigan Manifesto??? :)
Lots of tickets still available for tomorrow’s game. Won’t be a sellout and so it’ll be up to the students to make it a loud atmosphere. If they are anything like other student bodies, they’ll leave at halftime if the team isn’t in the game or just leave anyway with a late kickoff.
A 20 play drive to start the game with Martinez and co. should air out the stadium.
Yup
Something like they did at the end of the California game. I believe OSU’s last drive took 9:12 off the clock.
PHIL STEELE REPORT:
Home team is just 5-8 SU & 4-8-1 ATS since ’05. After winning 5 straight outright from ‘08-’12, the Underdog is just 1-4 SU & 1-3-1 ATS since, but won last meeting. Beavers are 8-4 since 2006, going 8-3-1 ATS. Last met in 2019, Oregon State (+5) never trailed, cruising to a 56-38 upset. Arizona has been much better than expected as they were close to 3 TD dogs vs Washington and USC but lost by 7 and 2 points and their other loss was to Mississippi State on the road in a game they had a 431-307 yard edge. In their last game Noah Fifita threw for 34-43-342 yards and Jonah Coleman had 168 yards from scrimmage. Washington State led 6-0 but Arizona led 20-6 at halftime and won 44-6 with a 516-234-yard edge on the road. Arizona’s D is holding foes to 86 ypg below their season average. Oregon State is 6-1 and in contention in the Pac-12 as they own wins over Utah and UCLA at home. In their last game Oregon State settled for 3 1H FG’s and led 13-0 but just 16- 10 when Ryan Cooper got a 67 yd IR TD with :48 left to increase the lead to 23-10. Oregon State got two TD’s on their first 3 possessions in the 2H and led 36-17 and UCLA down 36-24 was SOD on 4&18 at Oregon State’s 26 with 5:45 left. DJ Uiagalelei is hitting 60% with a 15-4 ratio and Damien Martinez (676, 6.4) and Deshaun Fenwick (382, 5.7) are a potent combo. Both teams are fresh off a late season bye with Jonathan Smith 3-4 SU off a bye and just 3-7 ATS as an AF (2-1 this year). Jedd Fisch is 0-3 SU off a bye. My computer has the Beavers 30-26 but my Last 4 weeks AGG has Arizona by 3.0. I will call for Oregon State to survive this tough road test.
#11 OREGON STATE 28, ARIZONA 24
COMPUTER FORECAST (ORST-ARIZ):
Rush Yards: 184-134
Pass Yards: 194-279
Total Yards: 378-412
Score: 29.5-26.4
EXP: 37-52
Vegas Line: Oregon State by 3.5
Vegas Total: 56.5 Points
+/- Rating: Oregon State by 17.3
Game Grade: Oregon State by 1.0
L4W Game Grade: Arizona by 3.0
Last Met Line: Arizona -5
Last Met Score: Oregon State -18
Points Per Yards: Arizona by 2.4
PAC-12
#5 Washington 45, Stanford 10
#8 Oregon 24, #13 Utah 20
#23 UCLA 38, Colorado 17
#24 USC 41, California 34
Arizona State 24, Washington State 23
NATIONAL
#1 Georgia 30, Florida 16
#3 Ohio State 26, Wisconsin 16
#4 Florida State 37, Wake Forest 17
#6 Oklahoma 44, Kansas 27
#7 Texas 38, BYU 10 (BEST BET: Texas -17.5)
#10 Penn State 41, Indiana 10
#12 Ole Miss 48, Vanderbilt 17
#14 Notre Dame 27, Pittsburgh 10
#17 North Carolina 41, Georgia Tech 23 (BEST BET: North Carolina -11)
#18 Louisville 27, Duke 17 (BEST BET: Louisville -4)
#19 Air Force 30, Colorado State 23
#21 Tennessee 28, Kentucky 21
#22 Tulane 31, Rice 27 (COMPUTER BEST BET: Rice +11)
#25 James Madison 35, Old Dominion 10
https://x.com/gavturley/status/1717959039903215659?s=20
Gavin Turley jumping on that NIL train
I saw ANT this morning driving a sweet Benz; long gone are the days when the fellas were barely scraping by while on the grind.
Um…
““The University of Utah has clear expectations for all athletic fans — including students and visitors to campus — to promote a positive environment that is respectful, safe, welcoming and family friendly,” a University of Utah spokesperson said.”
I honestly don’t see anything in that statement that conflicts with this:
““(Expletive) BYU, (expletive) BYU!” some Utah fans responded, loud and clear enough to be heard on the YouTube broadcast of the show; ESPN censored it on broadcast television. The same chants, with a different school after the expletive, were repeated at times when Oregon or USC was mentioned.”
I mean… no harm, no foul.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/utah-fans-chant-expletives-toward-byu-oregon-and-usc-during-live-broadcast-of-the-pat-mcafee-show/ar-AA1iYnbD
New court filing s from GK and and UW on Friday.
Both want the case to be dismissed(or a stay in the view of UW) for various reasons.
GK says he never had the authority totake board seats from teams and that power only lies in the hands of the majority number of board members(bylaws do not explicitly say it’s the responsibility of the board) GK basically says “even though i took away board seats from USC/UCLA/CO, I couldn’t have done that because I dont have the power to do that, so I need to be dismissed from the case” Fitting response from the coward.
UW says its silly to interpretate the bylaws as taking the board seats are taken away from teams that are still around and have only announced. They say “what if OSU/WSU also announced? Then there wouldnt be a board” Except that hasnt happened, so that isn’t the case. They also say the Pac2 looked around at their options, so even though they never left, they did think about it.
And UW says the other teams can’t be joined to UW simply because they have the same legal representation. (Even though the 9 other teams said they were letting UW speak for them, go figure)
Anyway, I dont see these arguments getting the time of day from the courts and thos thing will either need to be settled, or it will go to trial, no matter how hard the defendants try to wriggle out of it.
https://twitter.com/BillFarleyPhD/status/1718248739830444196?t=Xypto0CYHJR15sW_OTMRmQ&s=19
Go Beavs, anyone making some good grub?
Dry rub wings baked
By their way of thinking, they would not be participating in anything, discussions or otherwise with BIG or Big 12 until August 24. Obviously, they’re allegiance is to their new conferences. Is it possible Oregon and Washington won’t decide to leave until August 24 and at that time start planning with BIG on their new schedule? Because until then, they are 100% committed to the PAC 12 and working to build and preserve it. I hope the members of the BIG and Big 12 know what special back stabbing, low life’s they are getting. Kind of like getting inoculated with cancer. They are looking at the new territories and not the institutions. PAC will be better without them.
Hope for safe play today, good tackles, beast mode for the RBs, darts from DJ and glue on the hands of our receivers.
Who knew Lincoln Riley was a crybaby bitch?
https://www.si.com/college/2023/10/27/usc-lincoln-riley-utah-good-stealing-signs-kyle-whittingham-michigan