Reading a little more about RB commit Cornell Hatcher. His team played 4 of the top 10 HS teams in the country and he put up at least 100 yards and 1 TD against all of them. He had multiple 200+ yard games against top 10 teams and scored 5 TD’s in a playoff game. In that same playoff game he had 44 carries; his team basically put the whole season on his shoulders and they lost despite scoring 42 points.
He was recruited by Pettibone and on his team for two years (one redshirt). Then he had Riley for two. Then it was DE for his senior (and best) year. I can’t remember who DE’s DC was.
Someone brought it up late in the last thread but dam, the Yucks have plunked down probably $2-3 mill in QBs alone this season. That’s crazy. If they’re competitive next year in B10, I can see them bringing in another 1 and done qb. Dante Moore might be the smartest guy in the room. He could legitimately make several million and be a career 2nd string guy if he sticks with them. Lol. Wild times
Too bad for Idaho in both ways. I was just reading on their forum how much losing Ford will hurt, it seems he’s loved their as a coach and a recruiter.
Watched some of Gabarri Johbson’s HS film tonight.
I know he shorter than Maalik Murphy, but man he plays at just a higher level. He’s really good at hitting receivers in stride.
Compared to Murphy who often had receivers contorting their bodies to catch balls thrown behind them. I like this kid
I like him too but they’re highlights. If Johnson is accurate than he’s big time because he’s about as an elusive qb you can get. Any word on him coming to visit?
Something I just realized. Gabarri Johnson was a Team FSP 7on7 guy.
And I noticed how Bradon Huffman almost immediately put in a crystal ball to OSU for Johnson, even before he was officially in the portal.
In addition to that, Huffman also almost immediately tweeted about Thomas Ford getting hired by OSU today, like a minute after Ford posted that he was leaving Idaho.
Obviously Huffman is very good at what he does, but he really seemed extra.connected with those 2 newsy items, all with connections to FSP in the last few days.
Ignore my comment below, said the same thing. Durant is an FSP guy and shared the news about Ford on IG. Hopefully that helps lock him in as a Beav.
FSP is one of if not the biggest 7v7 and nfl prep group in WA and the NW. They helped Treshaun prep for the draft last year. The Fords have been a staple to the 7v7 movement in the NW since it began.
Cannot be understated how huge that connection could be long term. I am hoping that we could see quite a few transfers in from Team FSP 7v7, who knows, we may even flip a couple.
That’s good. I wonder why he isn’t being heavily sought after like other QBs. I guess I don’t really no that but just haven’t heard much since the crystal ball prediction. Have we officially offered him even? Maybe their waiting on Murphy?
What was the Lillard 7v.7 we used to have a pipeline with? That worked out well for us and that’s why I like this hire and connection. Could get interest and commits from guys that would’ve never had OSU on their radar. Bray’s a genius!
Portland/OR 7v7 is cluttered with too many 7v7 organizations. And our market is no where near as big as WA. There is talent in OR, just the type that fills PWO and get built into D1, few D1 ready guys.
We have gotten Grant, Gould and Collins (didn’t pan out) from Lillard. Maybe a few other walk ons along the way. I think Haines and maybe Reichle.
Candidly Lillard push UO to their best and when you look at who went there compared to OSU since it’s finding, it’s not comparable. Pretty sure Baron Narrone, the 2025 instate commit out of West Linn is a Lillard guy, so hopefully we can hold on to him.
FSP is significantly larger and has a much more proven track record of producing top HS players and NFL talent.
But truth be told, 7v7 is a for profit business and loyalty is hard to come by, here’s hoping that the Ford family backs each other on this. All the 7v7’s are always looking out for their brand and will try and upgrade the school caliber. Think TMP and how quickly they cast us aside.
That’s precisely who I thought he looked like while watching him, and I thought I was just thinking it was because of the uniform color or the number being similar. But he has that natural low set in his trunk, with the upright torso.
Kefense said Joshua Gray will not play in the bowl, so we’re down 6 starters on offense. ND is down 7 starters on offense. Both teams’ defenses are more intact. On the 2-deeps, ND will be missing about 15 guys and we’ll be missing about 10. Also the ND OC left the team yesterday.
Mental health…and “committed”…hasn’t committed to anyone it seems. Lotsa offers out of HS though, hope he gets his health on track. Good size and Bray can probably maximize his potential.
Mentioned on the last thread…we got a PWO commitment from a JUCO rb who I believe is his brother. Looks like a package deal and perhaps that keeps him committed this time around. Or not. This is the type of stuff we gotta do now…take some flyers and hope it pays off.
Have to say feels like Gabarri Johnson from Missouri. Basing this solely off the Crystal Ball prediction. Those folks don’t take too many guesses, so they must have information we don’t on our end.
We really need to add 2 QB’s to keep the pipeline full: one with a better near-term outlook that can compete right away and one that doesn’t mind developing over time.
Feels like Johnson and Guttredge is the most likely combination.
That’s where I land too. I am curious what the market will be for Malachi Durant. He entered the portal so late in the game, most teams were already set at QB. He’s by far my #1 portal guy to pick up if possibly, but also feels like a pipe dream given we’re the Beavs
He’s going to cost a lot of money. I don’t think he’s in the budget.
The mass exodus from USC is puzzling. Unless those guys are just going to get playing time, with the expectation they can transfer back to a big program in a year or two?
It’s starting to seem like the standard move for these big NIL deal kids, and I can’t think of a reason they shouldn’t do it. “Commit” out of high school for big bag. Transfer after freshman year for a big bag. Transfer after sophomore year for a big bag. Then maybe think about getting serious about playing football for a year and go to the NFL.
Haven’t really watched film on any of these guys but I kinda think Johnson would be my preference based on being a NW guy, has the team Ford connection. Perhaps that would help play in our favor for a longer stint than a 1 year loaner situation.
Perhaps the examples set by Riley and Williams have been well received by the team.
Also, WITH Williams they won 7(?) games….without him? they’re going to have bad road schedules and likely be a middling to lower-third B10 team…does Riley have a DC? Will Riley stick around?
Does anybody else have a thought in the back of their mind that Jordan Anderson us really still committed to oregon and this is just some fucked up troll job by Dan Lanning, similar to that Williams kid who Cristobal flipped after he anniunced he was ransferring to OSU?
Do all these kids think they are worth zillions of dollars? Do they all believe, if they find just the right niche, they’ll be in the NFL? Have they ever heard “only 1% of college athletes go pro?” Do they have any academic interests? Do all their families say, “hell yes kiddo, go get those big bucks for us.” Having vented all that, I wish Ben Gulbrandson the best of absolutely everything in the upcoming bowl game.
Dr Ben might go on to make more than just about all these guys. I’m sure the less than 1% argument is driving a lot of this. Make your money while you can.
Exactly right. They KNOW they might not get to the NFL and they might get injured early even if they do. Their main priority is making some bank as quick as possible while they have value.
Paying players is great for the kids, not regulating it is destroying the sport.
Schools that engender loyalty among their core group stand to gain, in the long run.
This means the core has to be made up of players who are developing and have something to prove.
There will always be leakage. But there is value in buying a couple good years of production with the team you developed with, in terms of getting looks at the next level.
Some teams out there rely on too much national recruiting. The roots just aren’t as deep for those players. And the consistency will suffer, over time, if results aren’t constantly superior.
Even that doesn’t seem to matter, for many. Of course, we also don’t know how many kids have been forced into the portal by their coaches.
You have to think a lot of these kids have parents, siblings, and friends influencing them as well. It has to be pretty tough for a kid to ignore all the chatter and just do what feels right.
Absolutely. That pressure and money mismanagement used to be primarily the problem of those that actually do get drafted but now you’ve got teenagers getting hundreds of thousands to millions thrown at them.
How are these NIL deals structured? I understand at a basic level how free agent contracts are built for the NFL, with parts that are incentives for performance as well as how management intends to handle the load of the payout, but is there any similarity at all?
What if you enter the portal, receive a lucrative offer, then don’t crack the starting lineup?
Season ending injury after say, 2-3 games? Or just are an injury prone type of player?
How can you build a brand off your likeness, when you consistently team hop every 1-2 years? The professional player has the advantage of time in the same league or develops a following built from past accomplishments. O.o
I think primarily the negotiations are around appearances at places/events. IE, you agree to 10 appearances during the year or so many tweets/posts, etc. Seems next to impossible to include any type of on-field results to it unless you have the coaching staff in your pocket too. I did see a post by an NIL collective person, not OSU related, mention something to the fact that kids shouldn’t be surprised that at some point contracts with financial implications for not living up to your part of the deal would be happening. Of course that didn’t sit well with people which would tend to suggest that it really does seem to be heavily in favor of the athletes right now if thought of contractual limitations received so much pushback. It’s so crazy how much the NCAA dropped the ball on this. Had they regulated the portal and NIL in a more structured fashion then some of this wild, wild west stuff could’ve been avoided.
From a 24/7 article – if the truth is being told, would explain the smaller school interest:
“I think not just for us but a lot of people back in high school, you can get caught up in how big a school is or how big their brand is,” Nelson said. “I’m dead serious when I say, we really don’t care how big a school, if they’re a blue blood or not.
“We’re just looking for the best all around fit where Malachi can come in and compete for a starting spot in the Spring. Not asking for guarantees but just a chance to be a day one starter, to lead a program, win a Championship, be a leader and do all the right things, on and off the field.”
Jordan Anderson has posted something briefly multiple times today where i receive the notification but when i go check what the post was, its already deleted.
Has happened several times this week too. Odd behavior
Doesn’t sound like he’s committing anywhere today from the sound of this, but most of the story is behind the 247 paywall so I’m not seeing all details.
He plays for an average 6A program but broke his collarbone in the second game of the season so badly he had to have surgery. He will be a senior next season, so we will see how it goes. 6’1 195lbs right now. Plays linebacker and H-Back. Realistically probably is not D1 talent, super smart academically, maybe he plays NAIA or D-3 if he wants to keep his career going.
He’s an underrated multi-sport athlete and glad we grabbed him. Saw him in person a couple of times this season and was really impressed and surprised I hadn’t heard of him, gave me lefty Kellen Moore vibes. Very accurate, high IQ, and anticipates the game, great footwork/moving in the pocket. Tall but needs time to develop physically, he’s a sleeper imo could be really good.
It’s been quiet on the “news of the [sports media] world” for the past month or so, but there was an interesting item in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal titled “Amazon in Talks to Add Regional Sports Content.]
The context for the story is the bankruptcy of Diamond Sports Group, which had carried the games of more than 40 professional sports teams. The story opens with a few key paragraphs, to wit:
“Amazon is in talks to invest in the biggest regional-sports programmer, a move that would advance the e-commerce giant’s aggressive push into sports content as it takes on streaming rivals like Disney and Netflix. Diamond Sports Group . . . filed for bankruptcy earlier this year, is actively negotiating with Amazon about a strategic investment and a multi-year streaming partnership. . . . If an agreement is reached, Amazon’s Prime Video platform would eventually become the streaming home for Diamond’s games.
Diamond, which as the local rights to about half the teams in MLB and the NBA and about a third of the NHL teams, would continue operating its cable networks through existing partnerships. It isn’t clear how much money Amazon is planning to invest or at what valuation.”
I deduce from this that when the CFP comes up for renegotiation after the 25-26 season, Amazon is likely to be a big player. They might want to get their feet wet with some smaller scale college football action over the next two seasons, which could prove beneficial to the Pac 2
How does USC have all these 4-star and 5-star recruits who hardly ever played? They’ve got to either be horribly managed by the program or else horribly overrated.
Man, it’s a pretty bargain basement set up. Looks like they’re playing in a middle school gymnasium with Mom and Dad doing the video. I guess P-12 Network can’t afford to go to Hawaii?
So do we have any idea what kind of offense Gundy is going to run at all? Seems like they’re going after mobile and pocket QBs. It would be cool to know and then we would know how the pieces would fit and then maybe have a preference as fans which players we want. Right now we just got to trust Gundy and hope he’s the next big thing!
OT- Holy Crap, WBB might be able to pick up a couple of conference wins against the Quacks this season. Quacks just lost to Utah Tech. What the hell happened to their program?
I know Overman is a great blocker, but I was sort of shocked that he only caught 9 passes in his entire Beav career. Maybe he’s looking for a few more targets
I think the women’s team will have a good year. finish somewhere in the middle of the conference with a couple upsets.
One key change that I feel is having a big impact is the hiring of Aleah Goodman. She’s a person who can connect with the players at a more relatable level. And definitely the future head coach if Rueck leaves.
BTW, how do you think Deven Hunter is doing? For me, her body language is a bit of a concern, doesn’t appear as locked in as Aleah; but that’s based on very limited observations.
Small colleges can sometimes offer a unique experience. My daughter was fortunate enough to earn NAIA All-American honors in cross country this year. Goes to a small school in Nebraska.
Thanks for the feedback. Congrats to your daughter. That’s an impressive achievement. My older son received a two-year soccer scholarship at a JC, but after playing for a year and a half he decided to go into the military. He said, I need a career, I’m not going to play professionally.
So @MHver3 locked their account, deleted all the posts he made referencing the potential for an investment firm to take over a merged PAC/B12/ACC, and removed a number of followers. The x (twitter) people are speculating that he would only do that if he had received some kind of official cease-and-desist, and that the info he was spreading was most likely actually legit to some degree.
I don’t love the WWE angle that was being discussed but I do like the idea of P2/B12/ACC forming a massive super-conference. Seems like then they perhaps become TBTF (too big to fail) that can combat the B12/SEC takeover attempts.
When does signing day start? I wonder if we’ll get any surprises hopefully good ones? There was never much excitement with smiths classes they all pretty much just committed, stayed, and signed. I imagine we’ll have a big late signing period.
I think it all happens tomorrow morning. Not that we have many 2024 recruits ready to sign. But there will be a handful plus maybe some transfers announced. And we should learm where Anderson is going(us or SDSU apparently, which is odd given he’s supposed to be one of the top WRs in SoCal)
Would hurt to lose him to SDSU. Our wr room is wide open just waiting for a #1 receiver. He would make bolden that much better and compliment each other.
I’ve added another new thread for signing say.
Wasnt sure how to schedule a start time for the morning so it’s already up. I doubt i’ll be checking in till around 7:30, well after things have started. Feel free to add updates as they come in
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First!!!!
Reading a little more about RB commit Cornell Hatcher. His team played 4 of the top 10 HS teams in the country and he put up at least 100 yards and 1 TD against all of them. He had multiple 200+ yard games against top 10 teams and scored 5 TD’s in a playoff game. In that same playoff game he had 44 carries; his team basically put the whole season on his shoulders and they lost despite scoring 42 points.
Dude’s a beast.
Also, his uncle is former OSU and NFL DB Armon Hatcher
Which means…this was a Riley connection!
idk if you can say that.
He was recruited by Pettibone and on his team for two years (one redshirt). Then he had Riley for two. Then it was DE for his senior (and best) year. I can’t remember who DE’s DC was.
I’d be more impressed if his aunt was Terry Hatcher
Lois was a smoke show
Hey oooo
https://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/story/2023-12-17/la-times-football-back-of-the-year-cornell-hatcher-jr
Crazy 45 carries
Great pick uo. And he’s not done growing and hasn’t developed his top speed yet.
Great grades too!
NB – any word on how Murphy’s visit is going?
Someone brought it up late in the last thread but dam, the Yucks have plunked down probably $2-3 mill in QBs alone this season. That’s crazy. If they’re competitive next year in B10, I can see them bringing in another 1 and done qb. Dante Moore might be the smartest guy in the room. He could legitimately make several million and be a career 2nd string guy if he sticks with them. Lol. Wild times
But can he lead team meetings and does he have a brother on the team?
Do we know how much ch they’re being paid or is this assumptions?
I haven’t seen receipts but considering they were 2 of the top 10 portal qb’s…it can’t be cheap.
Maybe Bray needs to recruit some of the Oline guys from Hatchers high school team.
An Idaho guard entered the portal. Idk if we need anymore interior lineman but might be someone to watch since we picked up someone on staff there.
Beavs have to poach from Idaho now? WTF
Relax, there is an obvious connection.
Who said we had to poach from them?
I feel so sorry for Idaho football.
Too bad for Idaho in both ways. I was just reading on their forum how much losing Ford will hurt, it seems he’s loved their as a coach and a recruiter.
There/their/they’re is hard
Not if you pay attention in third grad English.
Take a joke (or don’t).
Maybe just a spelling error…
Are you new to this whole portal thing?
Are you not seeing players from Gardner-Webb going to P5 schools?
I mean, we’re all a little new to this portal thing, but we’re not intentionally ignorant about it.
Watch what happens to Montana and SDSU next week.
Watched some of Gabarri Johbson’s HS film tonight.
I know he shorter than Maalik Murphy, but man he plays at just a higher level. He’s really good at hitting receivers in stride.
Compared to Murphy who often had receivers contorting their bodies to catch balls thrown behind them. I like this kid
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/12923841/633a050f3863870120bd5f1c
I like him too but they’re highlights. If Johnson is accurate than he’s big time because he’s about as an elusive qb you can get. Any word on him coming to visit?
I’m trying to find out if he has a visit scheduled.
Looks like as a senior he was 68.5% completion rate, with 24 TDs and 4 INTs.
Threw for about 2000 yds and ran for almost 1500 more. With 19 rush TDs
https://www.maxpreps.com/wa/tacoma/lincoln-abes/athletes/gabarri-johnson/football/stats/?careerid=jp1i4rhbg9s55
Look at his Junior year stats too…
In less games too.
Something I just realized. Gabarri Johnson was a Team FSP 7on7 guy.
And I noticed how Bradon Huffman almost immediately put in a crystal ball to OSU for Johnson, even before he was officially in the portal.
In addition to that, Huffman also almost immediately tweeted about Thomas Ford getting hired by OSU today, like a minute after Ford posted that he was leaving Idaho.
Obviously Huffman is very good at what he does, but he really seemed extra.connected with those 2 newsy items, all with connections to FSP in the last few days.
Ignore my comment below, said the same thing. Durant is an FSP guy and shared the news about Ford on IG. Hopefully that helps lock him in as a Beav.
FSP is one of if not the biggest 7v7 and nfl prep group in WA and the NW. They helped Treshaun prep for the draft last year. The Fords have been a staple to the 7v7 movement in the NW since it began.
Cannot be understated how huge that connection could be long term. I am hoping that we could see quite a few transfers in from Team FSP 7v7, who knows, we may even flip a couple.
That’s good. I wonder why he isn’t being heavily sought after like other QBs. I guess I don’t really no that but just haven’t heard much since the crystal ball prediction. Have we officially offered him even? Maybe their waiting on Murphy?
He’s fairly small. I’ve seen him listed anywhere from 5’10” to 6’2″. My guess is he’s towards the lower end of that
Think: Seneca Wallace
It would have been awesome if he stayed on campus.
Gabarri is my pick. Moevao moxie with enhanced athleticism.
Yep. Love his game. He’s the one I want.
Pretty sure he has FSP ties, also noticed Durant was excited about the Ford hire, an FSP guy too. Hopefully that bodes well for signing day.
What was the Lillard 7v.7 we used to have a pipeline with? That worked out well for us and that’s why I like this hire and connection. Could get interest and commits from guys that would’ve never had OSU on their radar. Bray’s a genius!
Portland/OR 7v7 is cluttered with too many 7v7 organizations. And our market is no where near as big as WA. There is talent in OR, just the type that fills PWO and get built into D1, few D1 ready guys.
We have gotten Grant, Gould and Collins (didn’t pan out) from Lillard. Maybe a few other walk ons along the way. I think Haines and maybe Reichle.
Candidly Lillard push UO to their best and when you look at who went there compared to OSU since it’s finding, it’s not comparable. Pretty sure Baron Narrone, the 2025 instate commit out of West Linn is a Lillard guy, so hopefully we can hold on to him.
FSP is significantly larger and has a much more proven track record of producing top HS players and NFL talent.
But truth be told, 7v7 is a for profit business and loyalty is hard to come by, here’s hoping that the Ford family backs each other on this. All the 7v7’s are always looking out for their brand and will try and upgrade the school caliber. Think TMP and how quickly they cast us aside.
Landed another RB. Was committed to Sam Houston.
“Smoothest RB in Texas”
https://twitter.com/AllahSalahadin/status/1737103620431098179?t=VGmkRwnsjyyOUpvFSM7JyQ&s=19
Good speed, balance, and vision. Needs to get better at fighting through contact and add some more weight. Reminds me a little of Fenwick.
Looks like he can run routes and catch the football.
His running style and pass catching ability remind me of a taller version of Justin Forsett. I like it.
That’s precisely who I thought he looked like while watching him, and I thought I was just thinking it was because of the uniform color or the number being similar. But he has that natural low set in his trunk, with the upright torso.
“One Smooth Beaver”…think of the NIL opportunities
At 5:30am!
Well, he had to finish breakfast and have a cup of coffee first.
Take it easy on the kid.
Kefense said Joshua Gray will not play in the bowl, so we’re down 6 starters on offense. ND is down 7 starters on offense. Both teams’ defenses are more intact. On the 2-deeps, ND will be missing about 15 guys and we’ll be missing about 10. Also the ND OC left the team yesterday.
Over under is 42.5 I’d take the under
Yeah, no Gould, Martinez, velling, DJU, OL missing pieces…scoring seems like it’ll be a bit of a struggle.
Transfer portal timeline has ruined the bowl games. Did the NCAA establish this portal date timeline?
We’re going to see what this second team OL is capable of.
Maybe we will get a repeat of the OSU-Pitt Sun Bowl, greatest defensive battle in Sun Bowl history
Wasn’t that Sun Bowl super windy, too?
Is that the one where Hecker’s punt went backward?
That was @Wisconsin.
We don’t talk about that game.
I thought that was the cheez it bowl
it was the Las Vegas bowl vs. BYU in 2009
That game sucked.
Nobody wanted to play it, and it showed.
oh… and the “fumble”
Mental health…and “committed”…hasn’t committed to anyone it seems. Lotsa offers out of HS though, hope he gets his health on track. Good size and Bray can probably maximize his potential.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2023/12/indianas-anthony-jones-an-ex-oregon-ducks-linebacker-transfers-to-oregon-state.html
Mentioned on the last thread…we got a PWO commitment from a JUCO rb who I believe is his brother. Looks like a package deal and perhaps that keeps him committed this time around. Or not. This is the type of stuff we gotta do now…take some flyers and hope it pays off.
Jordan Amderson says he’ll announce his new “home” today on his instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/cbcjordan/
So, what’s everyone’s take on who, if any, QB we get in the portal and why will it end up being the guy from Idaho?
Watching McCoy vs MSU it looks like he’s not a one read QB. He looks off defenders and is fine with checking down to his running back.
Have to say feels like Gabarri Johnson from Missouri. Basing this solely off the Crystal Ball prediction. Those folks don’t take too many guesses, so they must have information we don’t on our end.
We really need to add 2 QB’s to keep the pipeline full: one with a better near-term outlook that can compete right away and one that doesn’t mind developing over time.
Feels like Johnson and Guttredge is the most likely combination.
That’s where I land too. I am curious what the market will be for Malachi Durant. He entered the portal so late in the game, most teams were already set at QB. He’s by far my #1 portal guy to pick up if possibly, but also feels like a pipe dream given we’re the Beavs
*Malachi Nelson
Both of them!
He’s going to cost a lot of money. I don’t think he’s in the budget.
The mass exodus from USC is puzzling. Unless those guys are just going to get playing time, with the expectation they can transfer back to a big program in a year or two?
It’s starting to seem like the standard move for these big NIL deal kids, and I can’t think of a reason they shouldn’t do it. “Commit” out of high school for big bag. Transfer after freshman year for a big bag. Transfer after sophomore year for a big bag. Then maybe think about getting serious about playing football for a year and go to the NFL.
Create the wild West, expect the wild West.
Haven’t really watched film on any of these guys but I kinda think Johnson would be my preference based on being a NW guy, has the team Ford connection. Perhaps that would help play in our favor for a longer stint than a 1 year loaner situation.
“The mass exodus from USC is puzzling.”
Perhaps the examples set by Riley and Williams have been well received by the team.
Also, WITH Williams they won 7(?) games….without him? they’re going to have bad road schedules and likely be a middling to lower-third B10 team…does Riley have a DC? Will Riley stick around?
Maybe they’re upset about Riley dissing CA kids
Yeah he fired Grinch and poached that young DC from UCLA.
“The mass exodus from USC is puzzling.”
Think about it.
USC isn’t the only team paying good money, anymore.
Does anybody else have a thought in the back of their mind that Jordan Anderson us really still committed to oregon and this is just some fucked up troll job by Dan Lanning, similar to that Williams kid who Cristobal flipped after he anniunced he was ransferring to OSU?
It’s always the WR’s…
I’m sure Lanning and the ducks will give him a bag just for the sake of not having a highly ranked de-commit go to Oregon State. It’s a brand thing…
Do all these kids think they are worth zillions of dollars? Do they all believe, if they find just the right niche, they’ll be in the NFL? Have they ever heard “only 1% of college athletes go pro?” Do they have any academic interests? Do all their families say, “hell yes kiddo, go get those big bucks for us.” Having vented all that, I wish Ben Gulbrandson the best of absolutely everything in the upcoming bowl game.
Dr Ben might go on to make more than just about all these guys. I’m sure the less than 1% argument is driving a lot of this. Make your money while you can.
Exactly right. They KNOW they might not get to the NFL and they might get injured early even if they do. Their main priority is making some bank as quick as possible while they have value.
Paying players is great for the kids, not regulating it is destroying the sport.
idk
Schools that engender loyalty among their core group stand to gain, in the long run.
This means the core has to be made up of players who are developing and have something to prove.
There will always be leakage. But there is value in buying a couple good years of production with the team you developed with, in terms of getting looks at the next level.
Some teams out there rely on too much national recruiting. The roots just aren’t as deep for those players. And the consistency will suffer, over time, if results aren’t constantly superior.
Even that doesn’t seem to matter, for many. Of course, we also don’t know how many kids have been forced into the portal by their coaches.
You have to think a lot of these kids have parents, siblings, and friends influencing them as well. It has to be pretty tough for a kid to ignore all the chatter and just do what feels right.
Absolutely. That pressure and money mismanagement used to be primarily the problem of those that actually do get drafted but now you’ve got teenagers getting hundreds of thousands to millions thrown at them.
I wonder if they give their parents an allowance.
How are these NIL deals structured? I understand at a basic level how free agent contracts are built for the NFL, with parts that are incentives for performance as well as how management intends to handle the load of the payout, but is there any similarity at all?
What if you enter the portal, receive a lucrative offer, then don’t crack the starting lineup?
Season ending injury after say, 2-3 games? Or just are an injury prone type of player?
How can you build a brand off your likeness, when you consistently team hop every 1-2 years? The professional player has the advantage of time in the same league or develops a following built from past accomplishments. O.o
I think primarily the negotiations are around appearances at places/events. IE, you agree to 10 appearances during the year or so many tweets/posts, etc. Seems next to impossible to include any type of on-field results to it unless you have the coaching staff in your pocket too. I did see a post by an NIL collective person, not OSU related, mention something to the fact that kids shouldn’t be surprised that at some point contracts with financial implications for not living up to your part of the deal would be happening. Of course that didn’t sit well with people which would tend to suggest that it really does seem to be heavily in favor of the athletes right now if thought of contractual limitations received so much pushback. It’s so crazy how much the NCAA dropped the ball on this. Had they regulated the portal and NIL in a more structured fashion then some of this wild, wild west stuff could’ve been avoided.
They have no choice on NIL, and the portal is just fine.
It’s the bowl season that has to move, in order to accommodate school transfers, not the portal period.
If we had a NCAA Tournament on this level, the championship game would be next week, and everything would be froggy.
But we don’t. We have this extended period of crap bowl games that culminates in ESPN raking in the dough.
Thankfully, the Sun Bowl is on CBS.
Malachi Nelson’s initial list of suitors isn’t exactly muderer’s row
https://twitter.com/PeteNakos_/status/1737204519782486080?t=eQ-VlTGU0yRTn2eNuRDz4Q&s=19
Interesting. Reading between the lines, I would say starting/playing time is a higher priority for him than NIL money.
The lack of QB news for the Beavs is making me anxious!
Who is expecting Bray to pull the rabbit out of the QB hat and we sign a couple of these 4* guys floating but no where to land…
We’ve got playing time and a starting roll available.
Mmm… starting rolls!
Well played
From a 24/7 article – if the truth is being told, would explain the smaller school interest:
“I think not just for us but a lot of people back in high school, you can get caught up in how big a school is or how big their brand is,” Nelson said. “I’m dead serious when I say, we really don’t care how big a school, if they’re a blue blood or not.
“We’re just looking for the best all around fit where Malachi can come in and compete for a starting spot in the Spring. Not asking for guarantees but just a chance to be a day one starter, to lead a program, win a Championship, be a leader and do all the right things, on and off the field.”
I really hope that the gameplan doesn’t go the ucks way and they end up with a qb controversy on hand and both guys are erratic and underperforming.
And their stadium collapses into a sinkhole.
Hey now.
It is only one of two football stadiums named after a Beav.
Jordan Anderson has posted something briefly multiple times today where i receive the notification but when i go check what the post was, its already deleted.
Has happened several times this week too. Odd behavior
Doesn’t sound like he’s committing anywhere today from the sound of this, but most of the story is behind the 247 paywall so I’m not seeing all details.
https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/status/1737238646770872810?t=c4aJogbwkdceyh7kkn9Eyg&s=19
Hard pass. None of these kids are worth any sort of drama.
It’s not like he’s doing a LeBron decision show. He’s a kid; give him time to make up his mind.
Right up our alley! We need the 4* wr erratic behavior!
Last minute cash bag
Bray signal!
we have a new commit
The local QB from Wilsonville
https://twitter.com/kallengutridge/status/1737247690248147005
Nice to see a local kid commit, but looks like we were his only offer?
I read he wasn’t focused on football earlier in high school and so didn’t the camps and all that to get attention.
He’ll hit the portal and get 1.5 mil next year. Jk.
Cool. Nice to have a guy in the room to develop.
Hard to not be let down over this considering the qb talent we had come thru there the last week. Glad to have local guys come on board though.
He’s not a transfer, this is a HS 2024 kid. They’ll still bring in a transfer, if not 2.
I realize he’s not a xfer. My comment was regarding the xfers we did have roll through.
JS whiffed hard on QB’s a few years in a row, so Gundy has ground to make up
My son almost sacked him at their jamboree and caused a hurry, he can’t be that good!
“Almost” being the key word
Well, in my son’s defense, he was blitzing from the outside linebacker position the QB rolled out away from him.
Maybe we need your son too!
He plays for an average 6A program but broke his collarbone in the second game of the season so badly he had to have surgery. He will be a senior next season, so we will see how it goes. 6’1 195lbs right now. Plays linebacker and H-Back. Realistically probably is not D1 talent, super smart academically, maybe he plays NAIA or D-3 if he wants to keep his career going.
Collarbone ouch that sucks! At least it wasn’t his senior year that can be extra frustrating.
Yup, that was the one positive and he’s back and ready for Rugby season here in a few weeks.
He’s an underrated multi-sport athlete and glad we grabbed him. Saw him in person a couple of times this season and was really impressed and surprised I hadn’t heard of him, gave me lefty Kellen Moore vibes. Very accurate, high IQ, and anticipates the game, great footwork/moving in the pocket. Tall but needs time to develop physically, he’s a sleeper imo could be really good.
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/15100880/656630843df53405104bf3f1
He’s a winner, too. I like winners.
Remember those opposing-team freshman quarterbacks who got their first start against the Beavs, and you know the rest . . . ?
Maybe we got one.
It seems to me he was dropping passes in better than DJ.
He looks like Russell Wilson, only taller.
https://www.wilsonvillespokesman.com/sports/high_school/meet-the-most-slept-on-football-player-in-oregon-wilsonville-qb-kallen-gutridge/article_920a6dc0-5f1d-11ee-82a2-030131bd8e92.html
Pretty cool that he’s making adjustments and audibles on his own as a HS senior.
Sounds like BL was recruiting him a bit already, but never offered.
BL suddenly stopped the communication around the bye week. Hm.
It’s been quiet on the “news of the [sports media] world” for the past month or so, but there was an interesting item in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal titled “Amazon in Talks to Add Regional Sports Content.]
The context for the story is the bankruptcy of Diamond Sports Group, which had carried the games of more than 40 professional sports teams. The story opens with a few key paragraphs, to wit:
“Amazon is in talks to invest in the biggest regional-sports programmer, a move that would advance the e-commerce giant’s aggressive push into sports content as it takes on streaming rivals like Disney and Netflix. Diamond Sports Group . . . filed for bankruptcy earlier this year, is actively negotiating with Amazon about a strategic investment and a multi-year streaming partnership. . . . If an agreement is reached, Amazon’s Prime Video platform would eventually become the streaming home for Diamond’s games.
Diamond, which as the local rights to about half the teams in MLB and the NBA and about a third of the NHL teams, would continue operating its cable networks through existing partnerships. It isn’t clear how much money Amazon is planning to invest or at what valuation.”
I deduce from this that when the CFP comes up for renegotiation after the 25-26 season, Amazon is likely to be a big player. They might want to get their feet wet with some smaller scale college football action over the next two seasons, which could prove beneficial to the Pac 2
Third USC former 5-star from California enters the portal in two days. Hmmm…
How does USC have all these 4-star and 5-star recruits who hardly ever played? They’ve got to either be horribly managed by the program or else horribly overrated.
These must have been the CA kids Riley was slamming. Foreman actually played a fair amount, he just wasn’t all that good.
I hope we’re testing the waters with these guys. Maybe they want to play all of their games out west.
Women’s game tonight is listed on “Oregon State You Tube”. WTF? Never heard of it before. Have I been that out of touch?
https://www.youtube.com/live/wE4XySh6gFw?feature=shared
Just a little out of touch, cj. I do remember the same set up when the gals are in Hawaii in the past.
Man, it’s a pretty bargain basement set up. Looks like they’re playing in a middle school gymnasium with Mom and Dad doing the video. I guess P-12 Network can’t afford to go to Hawaii?
Vid screen shows 1646 people watching now.
The great Ron Callan was concerned about audio quality earlier, no problem on my end here.
So do we have any idea what kind of offense Gundy is going to run at all? Seems like they’re going after mobile and pocket QBs. It would be cool to know and then we would know how the pieces would fit and then maybe have a preference as fans which players we want. Right now we just got to trust Gundy and hope he’s the next big thing!
Well then you should ask him!
Fuck I wish! Anything you want me to ask?
DM him on twitter! Ask about his 4th down strategies
https://twitter.com/itsgundy?lang=en
After you guys make love…
OT- Holy Crap, WBB might be able to pick up a couple of conference wins against the Quacks this season. Quacks just lost to Utah Tech. What the hell happened to their program?
Bought not built.
Overman to Pitt.
I know Overman is a great blocker, but I was sort of shocked that he only caught 9 passes in his entire Beav career. Maybe he’s looking for a few more targets
Yeah. Best of luck to him. Sorry it didn’t work out.
I think the women’s team will have a good year. finish somewhere in the middle of the conference with a couple upsets.
One key change that I feel is having a big impact is the hiring of Aleah Goodman. She’s a person who can connect with the players at a more relatable level. And definitely the future head coach if Rueck leaves.
I agree, very nice to have her back.
BTW, how do you think Deven Hunter is doing? For me, her body language is a bit of a concern, doesn’t appear as locked in as Aleah; but that’s based on very limited observations.
Interesting WBB Rankings: UCLA #2, USC #5, CU #8, Stanford #9, Utah #10, UW #23….WSU “Others receiving votes” and just outside the top 25.
Nary a Duck or a Beaver receiving a vote.
I just saw a current AP poll. The Beav got 5 votes!!!!
Texas Tech got 13 votes, should be a good test for the Beavs tomorrow.
Small colleges can sometimes offer a unique experience. My daughter was fortunate enough to earn NAIA All-American honors in cross country this year. Goes to a small school in Nebraska.
Sorry that was meant to be a response to Mckalk
Thanks for the feedback. Congrats to your daughter. That’s an impressive achievement. My older son received a two-year soccer scholarship at a JC, but after playing for a year and a half he decided to go into the military. He said, I need a career, I’m not going to play professionally.
Thanks! Always proud of anyone who chooses to join our military
Josh mckown and Chad penningtons son’s are playing in some bowl game. Decent game.
I saw that, it makes me feel old.
That’s immediately what I thought when they announced it.
Wait till you watch the grand kids!! (:-)
Jake Overman committed to Pitt. He only had 9 catches as a Beav. He seemed more involved than that.
Oops repeat post. mckalk already covered overman deal. Jake must have been unhappy regardless of coach, maybe inevitable situation there
So @MHver3 locked their account, deleted all the posts he made referencing the potential for an investment firm to take over a merged PAC/B12/ACC, and removed a number of followers. The x (twitter) people are speculating that he would only do that if he had received some kind of official cease-and-desist, and that the info he was spreading was most likely actually legit to some degree.
Oh holy shit.
I read through a bunch of that this morning.
Might have traction?
I don’t love the WWE angle that was being discussed but I do like the idea of P2/B12/ACC forming a massive super-conference. Seems like then they perhaps become TBTF (too big to fail) that can combat the B12/SEC takeover attempts.
Good Instagram story on beavs.report account. Re-posted vid from Murphy’s Insta of the trip back to Portland. He’s wearing Beaver track pants. FWIW.
When does signing day start? I wonder if we’ll get any surprises hopefully good ones? There was never much excitement with smiths classes they all pretty much just committed, stayed, and signed. I imagine we’ll have a big late signing period.
I think it all happens tomorrow morning. Not that we have many 2024 recruits ready to sign. But there will be a handful plus maybe some transfers announced. And we should learm where Anderson is going(us or SDSU apparently, which is odd given he’s supposed to be one of the top WRs in SoCal)
Would hurt to lose him to SDSU. Our wr room is wide open just waiting for a #1 receiver. He would make bolden that much better and compliment each other.
I’ve added another new thread for signing say.
Wasnt sure how to schedule a start time for the morning so it’s already up. I doubt i’ll be checking in till around 7:30, well after things have started. Feel free to add updates as they come in