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  1. Thank you for the new thread.
    Should we expect a run to Omaha for Mitch and the Beavs? Do they have the arms this year to do it, even if Dorman is still here?
    Will Turley hit 30 home runs?

  2. Reposting from last thread RE baseball. OLive content, but Freeman seems better than the others there. I post artickes for convenience here m, and so people can avoid paywalls when applicable, try to excerpt relevant highlights, and credit the source. If you guys prefer I don’t copy/paste articles about the PAC and Beavers, let me know, I’ll stop.

    “The Oregon State baseball team took one step closer to becoming a unanimous top 10 team heading into the season.

    The Beavers on Monday debuted at No. 7 in the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association Top 30, earning a spot in the top 10 of a poll for the fourth time this season.

    The Beavers have also earned preseason rankings from D1Baseball (No. 7), Baseball America (No. 9) and Perfect Game (No. 10). The USA Today Coaches Poll is expected to be released later this week.”

    “Oregon State’s infield is as good as any in the nation, according to D1Baseball, featuring a player ranked among the best at his position everywhere across the diamond.
    The national college baseball website unveiled rankings of the country’s best players at every infield position and Oregon State was well represented. Beavers players were ranked in the top 50 at every position, with two — shortstop and third base — landing as high as No. 4.

    Here’s a look at the Beavers listed in the rankings:

    CATCHER: WILSON WEBER

    After splitting starting duties with Tanner Smith a year ago, Weber is expected to start the lion’s share of games in 2025. He hit .276 with seven homers, seven doubles and 22 RBIs in 34 games last season, and OSU coaches are predicting even more this year for the 6-foot-1 senior from Gresham. Weber is ranked No. 36 on the list of the top 50 catchers.

    FIRST BASE: JACOB KRIEG

    The Beavers’ projected starter is ranked No. 25 on the list of the top 50 first basemen. A 6-5 junior, Krieg hit .278 with nine homers, 10 doubles and 40 RBIs last season in 47 games, which included 43 starts. And, if you ask OSU hitting coach Ryan Gipson, the production could just be a drop in the bucket. “He might lead the club in homers,” Gipson said. “He might just have an absolutely gigantic year.”

    SECOND BASE: JABIN TROSKY

    The redshirt junior enters camp in a battle with transfer AJ Singer for the starting second base job. But Trosky is so talented, especially on defense, that he landed at No. 50 on the list of the top 50 second basemen. He hit .287 with 20 RBIs and 20 runs scored last season, when he played in 40 games, including 29 starts.

    SHORTSTOP: AIVA ARQUETTE

    The 6-5 junior, who transferred from Washington, is ranked No. 4 on the list of the top 50 shortstops. And that might be too low. Arquette, who boasts an electric bat and elite defense, has been so good since arriving in Corvallis, OSU coaches think he might just evolve into the No. 1 pick of the 2025 MLB draft. At the very least, Arquette brings athleticism, unique size, pop and endless talent to the roster. He hit .322, slugged .574 and finished with 12 home runs, 14 doubles and 36 RBIs last season, when he earned a spot on the Pac-12 all-conference team and all-defensive team.

    THIRD BASE: TRENT CARAWAY

    The 6-2 sophomore arrived at Oregon State with much fanfare and backed up the hype, hitting .352 with two home runs, five doubles, nine RBIs and 14 runs scored in his first 14 games. Then Caraway suffered a broken finger and missed two months, derailing his debut season. But he’s back, healthy and as formidable as ever. Caraway is ranked fourth on the list of the top 50 third basemen.”

    — Joe Freeman | jfreeman@oregonian.com | 503-294-5183 | @BlazerFreeman

    • Nah, you’re cool with sharing articles about OSU as that makes sense here. I’m cool with Beaver news, funny random shit, and music. Politics, however, can go fuck itself as a topic because I’m not very impressed with professional liars and two parties full of liars isn’t conducive for progress of ANY kind. Thanks for keeping shit relevant here ObjCritic, always appreciate your input.

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    PS. Any political comments in this thread will be deleted. If you want to do that, continue to argue in the prior thread. If I miss comments like that, someone email me to notify me it’s happening here.

  4. Getting my RV ready for the annual trip to Surprise. Hopefully the baseball team lives up to the hype, as it has been a tough year to be a Beaver fan!
    Concerns:
    Catcher: Weber has the bat but has not been a good receiver. Way too many passed balls and not been elite dealing with base runners. Supposedly we have some great prospects behind him. Team should have an overwhelming offense, so I would not be surprised if he gets replaced by a better defense option behind the plate if that continues.
    Closer: Mundt has the experience but not the velo. Hopefully he is totally healthy. Supposedly some good options behind him.
    Dorman!!! Praying the walks and HBP are down this year. We may have an SEC-like staff with lots of hard throwers, but in the postseason you need to throw strikes and not give up free bases. You win championships by not beating yourselves. Casey ball.

    Go Beav’s!

    • What’s it like maintaining an RV? I was thinking of getting one for bike trips…or maybe a smaller conversion van. Anyone have experience with either of these?

      • Not too hard, we used ours year round in AK but more so in the winter skiing out of Anchorage so a variety of conditions…. If buying used, get a rv repair guy to do a pre inspection. I can’t stress that enough.

    • I noticed in the “top 50” player rankings above, there is little/no talk about defense. The catching was my concern too. So much emphasis on offense, “launch angles,” HRs…

      Not enough emphasis in defense, attention to details.

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    Langsdorf is back. He brings NFL and Nike experience so he’s probably better equipped than his previous stint. It’s good to have some older heads in the room. That said, his Temple offenses struggled to score so hopefully he’s being used more as a consultant.

    • Langdorf is a letdown and eventual liability if Gunderson begins to have doubts about his own capabilities and yields to the “wise”old coach of his youth. Scary times for OSU if the old Riley staff begins returning to Corvallis. My fear is Banker will be the defensive consultant…ugh

    • I’m skeptical. Need some outside heads…understand he’s been elsewhere for a while, but would have preferred an outsider.

      To contradict myself, I’d love Brandin Cook’s as a WR coach or offensive analyst. : )

    • A review of what Langsdorf has been up to since leaving OSU:

      2014- coached Eli Manning on a 6-10 team that missed the playoffs
      2015- OC for a productive Nebraska offense; Tommy Armstrong Jr starting QB
      2016- OC for a mediocre Nebraska offense (Riley really in control?); Tommy Armstrong Jr starting QB
      2017- OC for a mediocre Nebraska offense (Riley really in control?); Tanner Lee starting QB
      2018- offensive analyst at Nike under Mario Cristobal; offense was pretty good
      2019- QB coach at Fresno with a bottom-tier QB (Jorge Reyna)
      2020- Passing coordinator for a mediocre passing attacking (Sam Noyer at starting QB)
      2021- Passing coordinator for a mediocre passing attacking (Brendon Lewis at starting QB)
      2022- OC for one of the country’s worst offenses (EJ Warner at starting QB)
      2023- OC for one of the country’s worst offenses (EJ Warner at starting QB)
      2024- OC for one of the country’s worst offenses; his QB transferred away from him

      • In sum: he’s never really developed a star QB and he seems to be capable of mustering mediocre performances out of his passing games. He must interview well.

        HOWEVER, the best offense he was a part of was one where he happened to be an offensive analyst. Maybe he was born to be an analyst?

        • “Maybe he was born to be an analyst?”………….ya got my hopes up there till I realized that 2018 season was a “one off” with a high dollar crew.
          Does he interview well, or are the interviewers not particularly diligent?

          • I’m very skeptical of Langsdorf. Bray held the reins well for a short term salvage of the program during a very tumultuous stretch, but this is an immediate red flag for me. Anyone from Riley’s staff post-2009 is suspect as hanging on for the cash and not really tracking with the changing direction of college football at the time. And now that we are another 12 years down the road since he left, how can anyone expect improvement or meaningful contribution form such empty wells.

          • He was an OC for the last three years so he knows what’s going on in the game today.

            I suspect he’s one of those people who’s a good guy, smart guy, not necessarily a winner. That’s okay. You have to be a psychopath to be a winner at this level. He’s just an analyst.

          • It’s also a one off, in that it’s the only year he was an analyst.

            I wouldn’t worry too much on what influence he has. He can also schmooze with boosters and talk about the old days.

  6. The Langsdorf hire feels like a result of Bray’s small coaching circle. He’s not part of a large tree that he can tap into. It’s unfortunate, but it’s what we have at the moment. Hopefully we’ll start winning and have a real conference, then we’ll become a lot more desirable to coaches who don’t already have a connection to Oregon State.

    • Yup. It’s a weird role to hire for, too. Experienced coordinator/HC that just wants to be an analyst. There can’t be a whole lot of those guys that would also “settle” for a mid-tier program that’s not in a retirement state.

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    Just talked with a buddy of mine, former pitching great that had the career wins as a beaver until Ben Wetzler surpassed him about 15 years ago. He is still very connected to the program and said the pitcher from Idaho, Dax Whitney, is already an MLB caliber pitcher. The transfer pitcher from LBCC was virtually unhittable last year and was the national pitcher of the year.

    This team is loaded with talent and if they stay healthy and perform at their expected levels, this team could very well in up in Omaha in addition to bringing another title to Corvallis. There are very high expectations for this team and do it should be a great year for beaver baseball.

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      Real beaver fans don’t down vote positive takes on beavers sports unless you’re really schmuck fans. But I guess all is fair except it would be fascinating to know what CS down votes but they don’t have the balls to come out of the schmuck closet.

  8. Does anybody know where LHP Oscar Hyde ended up? He was on the Fall Ball roster, but isn’t on the current one. He isn’t on Linn-Benton’s either. When I look him up, I’ll I can find are references to his commitment to OSU, nothing about where he is currently.

  9. Oregon State athletics reports record revenue, first surplus since 2013

    Updated: Feb. 04, 2025, 4:22 p.m.

    “Oregon State athletics produced its first yearly surplus in 11 years, according to its annual filing to the NCAA.

    OSU had a surplus of $7.43 million for fiscal year 2024, the school’s final year in the Pac-12 that ended June 30, 2024. The school reported total revenues of $120,312,417, and expenses of $112,883,911

    The last time Oregon State had a surplus was 2013, when athletics’ revenue exceeded expenses by $1.28 million. For fiscal year 2023, Oregon State had a net deficit of $6.84 million.

    As a comparison, the University of Oregon had a 2024 surplus of $1.978 million. The school produced $169,206,109 in revenue, offset by $167,228,256 in expenses.

    The 2024 revenue and expenses are Oregon State records.

    Helping bolster the bottom line for 2024 was the debut of remodeled Reser Stadium. OSU reported ticket sales for all sports of $13.0 million in 2024, significantly higher than the $9.95 million from 2023.

    Oregon State’s revenue is expected to drop for its 2025 NCAA filing, because of the Pac-12’s collapse.

    Other items of note:

    Most of the ticket revenue came from football, at $8.22 million. Next was baseball at $1.899 million, followed by women’s basketball ($763K) and men’s basketball ($675K). With remodel Reser to sell, football ticket sales increased by $2.32 million over 2023.
    Oregon State generated $34.05 million in media rights revenue. Football produced $21.1 million, followed by men’s basketball at $4.95 million.
    Football had a net profit of $23.2 million, reporting $49,178,636 in revenue, and $25,978,768 in expenses. That is a gain of nearly $7 million over 2023, when football profits were $16.51 million.
    Football was the only Oregon State sport to turn a profit. None were particularly close, either, as the smallest net loss was men’s golf at $668K, followed by men’s basketball at $772K. The sport with the largest annual deficit was women’s basketball at $2.91 million. Next was women’s track and field ($1.86 million), followed by softball ($1.82 million) and baseball ($1.8 million).
    The Beavers had a net loss of $208,830 from participating in the 2023 Sun Bowl against Notre Dame. OSU was paid $1.754 million to participate, with $1.963 million in expenses.
    Oregon State paid $36.62 million to coaches and support staff for salaries, benefits and bonuses for 2023-24. That is slightly higher than 2022-23, when the amount was $36.17 million.
    Oregon State spent $2.01 million in recruiting. More than half of that came from football, at $1.02 million.
    Football spent $1.781 million in travel, easily the highest among OSU sports. Next was women’s basketball ($878), men’s basketball ($848K) and baseball ($785K).
    Among Oregon State athletes, 219 men and 193 women receiving some type of athletic financial aid during the 2023-24 school year. Football led the way with 106. Rowing had the most among women with 48.
    The report said Oregon State has $953 million in university debt, with $108.7 million in athletics.

    –Nick Daschel can be reached at 360-607-4824, ndaschel@oregonian.com

  10. It’s unanimous. Again.

    The Oregon State baseball team on Tuesday debuted at No. 7 in the USA Today Coaches Poll, making it a unanimous top 10 team in all five major polls heading into the 2025 season.

    The Beavers earned 532 points and no first-place votes in the coaches poll, nestling between No. 6 Florida State (537) and No. 8 North Carolina (530).

    Texas A&M debuted at No. 1, followed by No. 2 Tennessee, No. 3 LSU, No. 4 Virginia and No. 5 Arkansas.

    The top five is reflective of the poll at large — the ACC and SEC combined to land 18 of the top 25 spots, including 12 of the top 13. The Beavers are the only team outside the two Power 4 conferences to earn a top 10 ranking and one of just three teams from the West Coast in the poll, joining the rival Oregon Ducks (No. 14) and UC Santa Barbara (No. 22).

    The Ducks are a unanimous top 25 team heading into the season, landing between No. 12 and No. 19 in the five major polls.

    Oregon State is no stranger to lofty preseason rankings, of course. The Beavers, who have won three College World Series championships and played in 23 regionals, also were a unanimous top 10 preseason pick last season.

    They went on to win 45 games and reach the super regionals, falling to the Kentucky Wildcats in the Lexington Super Regional. Oregon State lost a host of key contributors from that team, including All-America second basemen Travis Bazzana — the No. 1 pick of the MLB draft — rotation anchors Aiden May and Jacob Kmatz, closer Bridger Holmes, shortstop Elijah Hainline, slugger Mason Guerra and starting outfielders Micah McDowell and Brady Kasper.

    But the heavy exodus did not deter preseason poll voters, who are enamored with coach Mitch Canham’s retooled roster. The deep and talented group features five players listed on MLB.com’s top 100 draft prospects list, including junior shortstop Aiva Arquette (No. 7). sophomore third baseman Trent Caraway (No. 21), junior outfielder Dallas Macias (No. 60), junior outfielder Gavin Turley (No. 84) and left-hander Nelson Keljo (No. 89).

    And there is more to like beyond the five headliners. Team insiders are predicting breakout seasons by junior first baseman Jacob Krieg and senior catcher Wilson Weber, among others, and the pitching staff features perhaps the best collection of arms in Canham’s six seasons as coach.

    In addition to Keljo, who is poised to join the rotation after two years in the bullpen, the Beavers’ rotation is expected to include sophomore Eric Segura, freshman phenom Dax Whitney and transfer Ethan Kleinschmit. It’s a formidable foursome, but it’s not set in stone because of the talent up and down the staff, which includes 10 different players who touched 94.0 mph in the fall.

    Pitching coach Rich Dorman said the sophomore class on his staff is so deep, as many as eight Beavers could be selected in the 2026 MLB draft.”

    Geezus, can’t believe Canham’s going on his 6th season already. He does a great job recruiting and generating a high ranking profile for the team, which is good for the school and program. I just wish he would emphasize details, defense, focus, and intensity. The absence of such traits results in a sense of wasted talents and season(s) for me. Others in here know much better than I do though…

  11. As rosy as the Beavs financial picture story was, the literal bottom line in the story showed a school approaching a BILLION dollar debt, more than 100 million in athletic department debt and left out the various one-time or short-term payments that helped goose the income. Still, the $20m in TV money for football isn’t too far off of what the Pac-12 was considering before everything went to hell. But of course, the other schools and conferences are looking at bigger jumps in revenue, while OSU is facing headwinds just to maintain the status quo.

    Does mens hoops have a shot at the tourney or will they need to win the WCC tourney? NIT?

    • NIT odds seem decent given we’re still getting consideration as a bubble team, albeit one whose bubble is almost popped. I think we’ll have a shot at an at-large bid if we in out (unlikely), and that seems to be corroborated by CBB analysts. The number of bubble teams is huge, but our schedule only gives us two chances to make a statement the rest of the way (SMC games).

      If we can go the rest of the way with only two losses (probably both SMC games), we’ll be in good position for the NIT, but the potential field is huge so that’s not a given by any means.

      Which of these bubble teams stands out? (W/L by quad)
      Team A: NET 50, 4-6, 2-1, 2-1, 6-0
      Team B: NET 61, 3-8, 3-1, 3-1, 3-0
      Team C: NET 45, 1-5, 5-2, 2-1, 6-0
      Team D: NET 60, 1-5, 2-1, 2-1, 10-0
      Team E: NET 47, 2-7, 1-1, 3-0, 7-0

      • Here’s my favorite. These are two “blue blood” programs
        Team F: NET 43, 1-9, 4-1, 4-0, 4-0
        Team G: NET 64, 2-9, 2-0, 6-0, 4-0

        Not sure how F is that much better than G, given they have a better win% in every quad.

      • Where are you seeing consideration as a bubble team?

        I’ve seen no mention of this.

        All projections I’ve seen have the WCC as a 2 bid league. Not even San Francisco is given consideration as a bubble team and they currently sit ahead of Gonzaga in the WCC standings.

        • I’ve seen a few analysts grouping us into the “bubble almost flat” category (along with Santa Clara). I just saw one yesterday that gave us a 2% chance of an at-large bid. That will go up drastically with wins against SMC or go to zero if we lose.

          WCC standings don’t mean as much as NET for tourney selection. SF also has no quad 1 wins. They have a few more chances for one, but given their lack of quality wins (Boise State is their best), no one is really giving them a chance. Their two Q3 losses hurt. We only have one.

          NET formula for success seems to be: avoid Q3-4 losses at all costs, notch a few Q1 wins.

    • The thing with single-year snapshots is that number can include donations for facilities. So a year when pledges come due can be bigger than surrounding years, if amounts vary.

      Most of the athletic debt is amortized over the life of various bonds–Reser’s being $60m, itself.

      The academic side would be similar, with all the building OSU has done over the last decade.

    • “On Wednesday’s National Signing Day, the Beavers inked the last remaining unsigned commit — and arguably the most impactful — of their latest class. Tristan Ti’a, a four-star quarterback, has officially signed with OSU.

      Tristan’s combination of throwing ability, athleticism and leadership are exactly what we want in a quarterback to run our offense,” Oregon State offensive coordinator Ryan Gunderson said in a social media post announcing Tia’s signing. “He also is a football junky with great knowledge of the game. He will be able to physically and mentally attack defenses. I’m excited about his future at Oregon state.”

      During his senior season at Amador Valley in Pleasanton, California, Ti’a threw for 3,758 yards, 32 touchdowns and just four interceptions while passing at a 76% clip.

      According to 247Sports, Ti’a is a four-star prospect and the No. 21 quarterback in the nation. On3 tabbed the 6-foot-3 signal-caller as the No. 490 overall player in the 2025 class. He committed to Oregon State in October.

      Ti’a is slated to join an Oregon State quarterback room that also features highly touted Duke transfer Maalik Murphy. Sophomore Gabarri Johnson is back after serving as the Beavers’ No. 3 option last season.”

      https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/college/oregon-state/2025/02/05/oregon-state-lands-4-star-quarterback-on-national-signing-day/78256888007/

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          Something like: Murphy is underwhelming but they have to stick with him because he’s getting paid so much, upsetting the others and they all leave after this season.

        • On paper and potentially, it looks the best Beavers QB room in a very long time, top to bottom. Murphy, Gutridge/Johnson or Johnson/Gutridge, Tristan..

          On paper.

          Potentially. : )

          Can Gunderson put it all together?

    • Greg Biggins 247 Sports
      NATIONAL RECRUITING ANALYST
      “Ti’a had a very productive senior year and showed he’s among the top quarterbacks in the West Coast class. Was injured and missed half his junior year but came back strong and showed rare dual-threat ability. Has a smooth, easy delivery, gets it out quick and the ball jumps out of his hand. Throws a tight ball, can change speeds, shows excellent pocket awareness and the athleticism to escape pressure or take off on designed runs. Has a lean frame and will need to add some size to his upper body but really like the all around skill set. He’s a tough kid as well, will take a shot to get the ball out and has all the tools to be a very special player at the next level.”

      Highlights:
      https://awww.hudl.com/video/3/16668256/6733deee001106a963bd866b

  12. could be nothing, but I noticed Gundy started following the SMU assistant WR coach today, Ryan Jenkens. Was previously a WR coaching Grad Assistant at ASU. Just seemed noteworthy since I can’t think of any reason Gundy would need to follow him unless maybe he’s a candidate for our vacant spot.

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    I wonder how the dicks MBB team is enjoying the B10 as they just lost their 4th in a row.. it’s fun to see how they went from #9 in the country to getting kicked to the curb outside the top 25.

  14. Taken from another beaver blog;

    Disney owns 80 percent of ESPN. January they became 70 percent owner of Fubo streaming. Fubo,Sling tv,Vidgo are on the Pac 12 Enterprises. That looks like the Pac 12 streaming partners on media deal. The CW and Turner looks to be also partners of the Media deal for Pac 12.

    • Fubo, Sling, YT, Hulu, and Vidgo are not “streaming partners.”

      They’re apps.

      Turner could be a streaming partner, because they are available on Max.

        • It should be pointed out Max is also an app. But it’s exclusive content, not available on multi-channel apps, where I would still be paying far too much for stuff I don’t watch.

  15. “The causation is clear and inarguable. We don’t need a football coach to explain that nothing happens in a vacuum.

    If illegal tampering is rampant and unchecked in college football, why have a spring game and invite coaches from every school to view your roster in a game setting and decide which player to throw money at?

    So Nebraska coach Matt Rhule says he may cancel his program’s widely popular (and populated) spring game to avoid it. And because he opened the door to this specific problem, it has left an opportunity to debate a larger issue facing college football ? one with tentacles reaching all the way to the NFL’s inexplicable free development system.

    The stupidity of spring practice. If

    …So have OTAs for freshmen and redshirt freshmen in the early spring, a group of practices with no live, 11-on-11 team hitting.
    Then return in pre-summer (early May) with a mini-camp, where the entire roster is available for a limited number of days. The preseason then begins in late July with training camp, where a specific number of days are set aside for 11-on-11 team hitting.

    Just like the NFL, coaches have the ability to excuse players from OTAs or mini-camp, depending on injury or the need to get younger players more time. But that move to an NFL offseason model opens another door of causation that must be addressed.

    Spring games are money-makers for universities, an opportunity to open the gates and satiate a football-mad fanbase with hope of what could be. That hope once translated to season tickets and apparel, and now is also used to replenish collectives.

    The worst part of this current process, the absolute worst part, is the NFL is the largest beneficiary of it all. College teams develop players for the NFL, and the NFL pays nothing.

    The NFL, the most successful professional sports league in the world, doesn’t pay for player development. The NFL has a $110 billion – billion – media rights agreement, and not a penny goes to arguably the most important piece of its success.

    Want to prevent teams from poaching players after watching spring games? Simple. Move to an NFL offseason schedule, and make up for lost revenue by negotiating a talent fee with the NFL.

    No talent fee, no scouts and personnel people in football buildings at NCAA schools. Not at practice, not at games, not during spring ball. No access to game and practice tape, no access to coaches.

    Nothing.

    When the NFL draft begins, those same NFL personnel will be as blind as Joe Sixpack while heading into their critical player procurement process.

    For too long, college football has played dutiful soldier for the NFL. Not anymore. It may be a new, NFL-based world, but that doesn’t mean someone isn’t paying for it.

    Be it the end of spring practice and games, or the implementation of a new offseason calendar.

    Nothing happens in a vacuum.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/02/04/college-football-end-spring-practice-charge-nfl/78183821007/

    I don’t agree with this “When the NFL draft begins, those same NFL personnel will be as blind as Joe Sixpack while heading into their critical player procurement process.” Because there’s plenty of game film to evaluate.

    Also, everyone would have to do it (which they won’t) or it won’t work. The teams that allow access will have a recruiting advantage. The NFL would obviously pay just a handful of teams, probably further increasing recruiting advantages for those schools.

    But in principle I like the ideas of changing spring practice and somehow getting compensated by the NFL.

    • Are other industries spending a lot on professional development at the collegiate level?

      H&R Block made $3.6b last year. Are they paying for kids to become accountants?

      • Right? Doesn’t every professional organization reap the rewards of colleges “developing” their future employee base? That’s what college is for.

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    This whole argument is stupid.

    The NFL isn’t dictating anything to the college game. If anything, the college game repeatedly effects major change on the NFL via changing play styles and their consequent impact on player development. It’s pure opportunism on the part of the NFL, but college football shouldn’t act like they’re being taken advantage of. College football’s problems are ENTIRELY of their own making.

    A NFL development deal would be disastrous for the innovation that college football has long fostered at both levels. NFL organizations would start dictating play styles and telling college coaches/programs what they want them working on. That’s how the most successful minor league models work in other sports. The NFL on-field product is miserable to watch; why would anyone want to turn college football into that same thing?

    If these AD’s are concerned about being harmed by the changes in the sport, they should get off their butts and advocate for structural change around the transfer portal. Fix that and everything else falls in line.

    • NFL is ten times better than college ball, in terms of game play.

      I don’t even know if I’d watch college ball, if I hadn’t gone to college.

      • That’s because the players are better; it’s not because the schemes are more interesting. Every NFL team basically runs the same offense. College has constant innovation because you have more coaches with nothing to lose, a little bit of leash to implement a different system, and different constraints on recruiting.

      • Agreed, my Dad would not watch college football because of how poor he said the gameplay was compared to the NFL. He was a gambler and said college ball was too unpredictable to even bet on.

  17. We need to cool the jets on the QB room hype machine. Murphy, Johnson, Guthridge, Tia may be pretty solid but most potential of all time at OSU? I mean we did have a QB room of Derek Anderson at one time…and who can forget the QB battle between Katz and Vaz? But there was never so much “potential” as the fall camp of Seth the Great. The hope and expectation was palpable after the first hurdle. Little did we know that GA was such a fraudster….another Luck of the Beavs event.

    • That was mostly tongue in cheek…potential and “on paper” often look great. Plus, if the OLine can’t give them time it won’t matter.

      Katz was all arm…Vaz was a back up….both underwhelmed….Vaz didn’t take it so much as Katz lost it…

      I think the reaction to Collins was really that the Beavers had a mobile QB after statues Mannion (wouldn’t run 7 yards for a first down with 10+ yards of open field), Canfield, Anderson…but Collins was soft headed and inaccurate. Watching McMaryion school the ducks at Reser was fun. He should have started the subsequent year as Angry said.

      I don’t even recall who backed up Anderson…

      • It’s ok OBJ. I am fully sarcastic and just bringing back the oldies with Seth the Great. I like the current qb room and have high hopes that potential becomes reality. But, as a true suffering Beav, I needed a dose of reality and not “a hopamine fix”.
        Murphy might be as good as DA or Mannion, Guthridge may be a better version of Josh Allen, Tia might become the latest version of Marriott’s Poly qb. But in Beav form, they all may flash and be gone in 2 years…

        • Yeah, again on potential, a 4* at the top and a 4* on the bottom….I think Gabarri Johnson was a 4* out of HS and rated as a top 10 dual threat QB nationally….Gutridge looks like a solid 3*(?)….from a * standpoint I doubt the Beavers have had a QB list like this…

          Plus 4* WR Clemons, three(?) 4* TEs…

          Though I’d prefer 4* DL, OL, and CBs and legit 3* skill players, RBs,

          Angry once pointed out the money all approach, and now that players can be rented, Beavers could prioritize their limited resources for position groups…

    • Wasn’t it was Mannion and Vaz? The year after Mannion got hurt and Vaz filled in. The debacle at the bowl game setup a QB battle in camp.

  18. “A new bill proposed in the Georgia legislature aims to eliminate the state’s 5.49 percent income tax for college athletes on their NIL deals. Essentially, this means that a Georgia Bulldogs quarterback making $1 million per year would get to keep an extra $55,000. It also means, if a football team is collectively earning $20 million through NIL, the state is losing out on about $1 million in revenue that funds stuff like healthcare, education and transportation, which the rest of us working schlubs who live here are obligated to pay for.

    A new bill proposed in the Georgia legislature aims to eliminate the state’s 5.49 percent income tax for college athletes on their NIL deals. Essentially, this means that a Georgia Bulldogs quarterback making $1 million per year would get to keep an extra $55,000. It also means, if a football team is collectively earning $20 million through NIL, the state is losing out on about $1 million in revenue that funds stuff like healthcare, education and transportation, which the rest of us working schlubs who live here are obligated to pay for.

    So on Wednesday, I called Brandon Beach, a Republican state senator representing the Alpharetta area just outside of Atlanta. He’s the one who came up with this idea, and I asked him a simple question: Why should exempting highly-paid college athletes from income tax be an important priority for lawmakers in the state of Georgia?

    “Well, I think it’s a priority,” he said. “Listen, college sports generates millions of dollars for our universities, our local businesses, and it really helps our state economy. And if you have a winning program, it further develops a, you know, economic engine. And for us to be competitive, we need to do that.

    “We’re only talking about while you’re in an NIL deal and while you’re an athlete. It’s not for the rest of their life. So three to four years at (most), and we want to make sure that (Georgia coach) Kirby (Smart) can — whether any of our universities can — be able to recruit that talent.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2025/02/06/georgia-nil-college-athletes-no-state-income-tax-bill/78291940007/

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      I know this is no politics thread and hopefully this isn’t viewed as political but I am tired of all these special carve outs in the tax code. Just make everyone pay taxes.

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    If we lose this game to the Cougs, I will officially be on the Fire Tinkle bandwagon. I don’t want to join it.

  20. Good win there. Easy opportunity for a let down after getting blown out, having a long layoff and playing a scrappy balanced WSU team.

  21. 123 FBS teams, 12 games each, 47 bowl games, 1,253 FBS football games from August to January 20 Championship…. plus 129 FCS teams, 13 conferences, with 24 team playoff, single elimination…

    B10 media rights $7B through ’29-30, SEC media rights $3B through ’34, ACC media rights $3.6B through ’35-36. MWC was $45M, MAC $10M through ’27, Conf USA $750K per team….some of these are for multiple sports….

    That’s a lot of (mostly) poor viewing product with very poor announcers and officiating.

    285 NFL games this year including Super Bowl, NFL $110B through ’32…

    Lotsa football viewing….where will the PAC deal slot?

  22. Cool hire for the defensive analyst. I’ve honestly never heard of the guy, but he has as good a resume as you could hope for in that position.

    • “Oregon State is hiring former Idaho football coach Robb Akey as its special assistant to head coach Trent Bray.

      Akey, 58, will assist Bray with head coaching duties and also offer aid with inside linebackers. Akey has a deep background on defense, as he’s served as a defensive coordinator at Washington State, Central Michigan and Northern Arizona during his 36-year coaching career.

      Bray was seeking a special assistant as he takes on the dual role of head coach and defensive coordinator, as well as coaching inside linebackers.

      Akey was 20-50 during his six-year head coaching stint at Idaho (2007-12). His best year was 2009, when the Vandals were 8-5 and won the Humanitarian Bowl. Akey is known for his high energy and a distinctive gravel voice.

      Akey most recently served as defensive coordinator at Central Michigan, a role he filled from 2019-24. Akey was defensive coordinator at Washington State (2003-06) and Northern Arizona (1996-98). Akey’s WSU tenure also includes four years as defensive line coach.

      Akey has three years of NFL experience, as he coached defensive line for Minnesota and Washington from 2014-16.

      Akey is Oregon State’s second significant football hire this week. On Tuesday, the Beavers hired veteran offensive coach Danny Langsdorf as a senior offensive quality control assistant.”

      https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/02/oregon-state-names-former-idaho-coach-robb-akey-as-special-assistant-to-head-coach-trent-bray.html

      • Looking at his history, his CMU defenses were all decent and his WSU defenses (granted, a while ago) were good. Also coached under some pretty solid HC’s and has HC experience himself.

      • Most important thing with this specific hire is just his personal and working relationship with Bray.

        Not super relevant how his Defenses rated or his W/L record as a head coach.

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        The best thing about this hire is it was not another old OSU coach from the Riley era. An outside viewpoint should be an upgrade given all of the OSU guys already in place. His NFL background has to be a good thing, at least for blitzing and d-line stunts for pressuring qb.

        Idaho/CMU experience is meh, but his head coaching time makes him an asset for bouncing ideas in the office when situations come up with personnel/staff/locker-room stuff.

        Overall it is a win. Bray has controls of the defense, KHJ is gone, and we didn’t back-fill with Banker. Chalk it up as a win for OSU fans.

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    Podcast from 4 days ago said the Memphis AD would be willing to listen to an offer from the PAC 12 if they present an offer but nothing is currently on the table.

    While Memphis is in a different time zone and would add to travel costs for the PAC 12 and go outside of their geographic footprint, Memphis would legitimize the PAC 12 bc they have a very solid football and basketball program, a very solid TV market and would get the PAC12 some much needed Eastern exposure and could possibly end up with a better media deal.

    If the PAC doesn’t at least get them to the table to take, it’s a huge missed opportunity bc they could also tap Tulane. Combined with the Texas schools that gets the PAC closer to restoring a P5 designation.

    Hopefully, PAC 12 leadership has not closed the door to Memphis and Tulane for expansion.

  24. Goddamnit Barnes, what’s driving this?!? Nostalgia, just to get hammered by a $20M+ roster?!?

    “There appears to be life for the Oregon State-Oregon football series beyond the 2025 season.

    OSU athletic director Scott Barnes told The Oregonian/OregonLive that he and Oregon athletic director Rob Mullens are discussing a multi-year agreement to continue the 128-game series. The Beavers and Ducks currently have one game under contract, for the 2025 season in Eugene.

    Asked if he believes Oregon and Oregon State will continue playing a football game beyond 2025, Barnes said “we’ve got to find and finalize the dates. We’re not there yet, but we think we have a path forward. … It hasn’t been a lack of interest from myself or Rob. It’s been really clarifying where the heck our futures are, and what the schedules look like.”

    What’s unclear is whether the series continues in 2026, or pauses for a few years. Barnes insists it’s all about scheduling and not a desire for a cooling off period between the two schools.

    Oregon State’s uncertainty regarding the size of the Pac-12 in 2026 and previously scheduled nonconference games for both schools make scheduling Ducks-Beavers in 2026 a challenge.

    Oregon State has Houston and Texas Tech scheduled for 2026. The Beavers previously had San Diego State under contract for 2026, but SDSU is joining the Pac-12. The Beavers should have room on the schedule, but won’t know until the Pac-12’s 2026-27 school roster is complete.

    Oregon has a full schedule for 2026, with nine conference dates and nonconference games against Boise State, Oklahoma State and Portland State. The Ducks would need to move one of their nonconference games to open a date.

    The 2027 calendar is crowded, too. Oregon State have four nonconference games under contract in Portland State, New Mexico, Mississippi and BYU. Oregon is full as well, with Eastern Washington, Baylor and Utah State on the schedule, in addition to nine Big Ten games.

    What’s unclear is whether the series continues in 2026, or pauses for a few years. Barnes insists it’s all about scheduling and not a desire for a cooling off period between the two schools.

    Oregon State’s uncertainty regarding the size of the Pac-12 in 2026 and previously scheduled nonconference games for both schools make scheduling Ducks-Beavers in 2026 a challenge.

    Oregon State has Houston and Texas Tech scheduled for 2026. The Beavers previously had San Diego State under contract for 2026, but SDSU is joining the Pac-12. The Beavers should have room on the schedule, but won’t know until the Pac-12’s 2026-27 school roster is complete.

    Oregon has a full schedule for 2026, with nine conference dates and nonconference games against Boise State, Oklahoma State and Portland State. The Ducks would need to move one of their nonconference games to open a date.

    The 2027 calendar is crowded, too. Oregon State have four nonconference games under contract in Portland State, New Mexico, Mississippi and BYU. Oregon is full as well, with Eastern Washington, Baylor and Utah State on the schedule, in addition to nine Big Ten games.

    The 2028 calendar is a little more flexible, as Oregon State has BYU and New Mexico under contract for nonconference games. Oregon currently has three, plus the Big Ten.

    Games currently on the books doesn’t deter Barnes, as he points out “we’ve learned a lot when we had to build a schedule from scratch (in 2024 and 2025). Two years in a row, there were a lot of double moves. There are triple moves, where two or three schools are involved. It’s about moving the chess pieces to make it work.”

    What is unlikely to happen is returning the Oregon-Oregon State series back to its traditional place on the schedule. As former conference partners, the Ducks and Beavers, with few exceptions, played in late November as the regular season finale. Barnes said with Oregon’s Big Ten commitment, and what’s probably to be something similar for the Beavers in the newly constructed Pac-12, the rivalry game is likely to be scheduled in September for the foreseeable future.

    The 2024 game was played on September 14 at Reser Stadium.

    We need to adopt the premise that we’re going to fit (the rivalry game) where we can. We don’t have the luxury of just saying, we’re going to play on Thanksgiving weekend,” Barnes said.

    Washington and Washington State, schools in similar situations with the Huskies now in the Big Ten and Cougars joining OSU in the Pac-12, recently announced that they’re renewing the Apple Cup for 2026 and 2027.

    Barnes expects the schools will figure out the series future by this spring.

    “We both have the will to get this done. It’s just a matter of clearing the path. We’re making progress on that,” he said.

    –Nick Daschel can be reached at 360-607-4824, ndaschel@oregonian.com or @nickdaschel.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/02/is-there-a-future-for-the-oregon-state-oregon-football-series-we-both-have-the-will-to-get-this-done.html

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      Barnes is completely misreading the OSU fanbase on this one. Anyone who thinks we need to keep playing the ducks out of loyalty or continue the state rivalry nonsense has lost perspective on what happened. The ducks don’t mind having a non conference game close to home, less travel for them overall for the season, no matter the sport. OSU is now in the spot of scraping pennies for athletics. Until NIL is reformed or outlawed, any duck football game is tantamount to a body bag game. The same games that Riley would schedule as the “let’s figure out ourselves while we get our heads kicked in” game.

      Barnes refuses to play hardball publicly and bash the ducks for what they pulled to destroy the conference. He should be shaming them for even asking to play OSU anymore. They left. They can travel east and play new rivals. It is a frustrating thing to read after Barnes has essentially held the line for the last 2 years of turmoil. He needs to rail on Mullens and the UO admin overall for the nonsense they have pulled rather than placate and sound like golfing chums talking football schedules like it was 1980 and both teams are horrible.

      I really doubt Barnes is able to play 5-D chess and is simply running a charade on UO, waiting to pull the rug out from under them at the last minute. That is more to be expected by the ducks. It is much more likely that Mullens will push for OSU to change their schedule and then drop out of the offer, just to jack up Barnes for fun. Barnes may be a giant goober. I don’t expect him to be here much longer if this is his new tenor.

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        No, Barnes isn’t an idiot and knows this is a guaranteed sellout and a chance to get a power opponent at home regularly.

        You can’t say you hate Nike and also not want the chance to beat them.

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          Couldn’t disagree more.

          Oregon ended the relationship, begging for this game, which is what Barnes is doing by agreeing to play it whenever Oregon can, is embarrassing.

          We simply shouldn’t be playing them. And it just proves their belief that we are their little brother.

    • If FOX is still bidding for first picks, they will want to keep all their properties in-house. That includes the CW and the Apple Cup playing on alternating years, allowing them to pick either every year.

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        Then let Fox and Oregon/UW pay through the nose to keep those 2 rivalries going, since they had a part in jeopardizing both. It is an enraging scenario brought upon the Beavs and now they are just acquiescing to whatever the ducks propose. I hate the idea of ducks acting like they can just dictate to OSU how things are going to be.

        • It’s FOX (or whoever wants those rights), not UO or UW.

          So we’re acquiescing to the max payout, in subsidizing the poor decisions made by those schools.

          Would I rather play USC, even though USC can fuck right off?

          Yes.

          But it is what it is.

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    Is there a different officiating crew tonight? St. Mary’s should have 5 or 6 fouls already. St. Mary’s is up 14-10 about 8 minutes in.

  26. Yikes! I just watched a replay of the game. There’s a reason St Mary’s is 21-4 and the Beavs are 17-8. St Mary’s is a very solid team and Augustas M is a great PG and clearly the best player on the floor.

      • They have lost 1 game on the road this year. That alone is insanity. They should probably be a top 4 seed, but they will get shafted with a 9 seed and probably lose on a last second shot to a one seed in the second round.

        • I don’t see any one seeds getting an easy out with those guys… or even winning.

          Yesterday was an indication of how contrived the top ranking have been.

          There’s Mar?iulionis, and there’s a bunch of guys who come at you in waves of big. And they’re physical, to boot.

          • I would be pissed off, if I was a 1 seed, to have them set up for a run at us that early.

            At least put them on the other side of the regional.

      • Yep, they should be at least in the top 15. I can see that team making a good run in the NCAA tourney. Keep in mind, their top rebounder was out for most of the game too.

  27. Oregon State imposing ticket fee to help cover payouts to athletes

    “The Beavers are adding a $3 “Student-Athlete Enrichment Fee” to each football ticket and parking pass for the 2025 season. The money will go towards the school’s revenue-sharing plan with athletes that is expected to be begin in July.

    For season ticket holders buying a seven-game package, the additional fee is $21. Season parking passes are also subject to the $3 enrichment fee.

    If Oregon State sells an average of 28,000 tickets per game next season, plus parking passes – students are allotted approximately 6,000 tickets in 35,548-seat Reser Stadium – it could generate approximately $600,000 in additional revenue.

    The fee is also included on tickets to all Oregon State home sporting events. With basketball and baseball games attracting a combined 250,000-300,000 fans, and other sports, that could raise more than $1 million, counting football.

    Oregon State is automatically married to the House settlement that goes into effect in July, provided it is approved, because of its prior association to the Pac-12. OSU is looking to raise several million dollars that will go toward revenue sharing with its athletes.

    Athletic director Scott Barnes declined to say how much revenue Oregon State plans to share with its athletes. Barnes said the final annual number will grow throughout the year based on “our philanthropic efforts, our revenue generation and the market.”

    It won’t reach the $20.5 million cap.

    “There will be more schools that don’t reach that than do,” Barnes said. “We will be competitive and relevant against those schools that we’ve always recruited against. That’s our goal.”

    Oregon State sold some 16,000 football season tickets last year for seven home games. This year’s schedule includes seven home games, but unlike 2024, doesn’t have Oregon. But the 2025 schedule does include three Power 4 schools in California, Houston and Wake Forest.

    Barnes is confident Oregon State can match last year’s season ticket sales. He said OSU’s goal is “85 to 90% renewal. If you can hit 90%, you’re literally in growth mode.”

    Oregon State played each of its 12 games last year on Saturdays. Barnes does not expect that to be the case for 2025. He expects one game to be played on a Friday, or a day other than Saturday.

    Decisions about playing times and game days won’t be made until the Pac-12 hears from television and streaming partners about media rights. Barnes said, “as we move into spring, we’ll have clarity.”

    There hasn’t been a delay regarding a media rights offer, Barnes said. Told Oregon State fans are understandably nervous after going through the Pac-12 media right mess, Barnes said “we’re on track. We’re not delayed. We’re coming out of the holidays. Our target timeline was later this spring. We’re in that ballpark.”

    Barnes was asked about this possible scheduling scenario: a Wednesday before Thanksgiving game at Washington State. Currently, the game is scheduled for Saturday, November 29. Oregon State has a bye the previous week. Washington State would need to maneuver its Nov. 22 game against James Madison. But a Nov. 26 game would give OSU-WSU a prime national TV window with no expected competition from others in college football.

    Barnes said he hadn’t thought about that possibility.

    “But, to be open-minded enough to consider out of the box opportunities? 100%,” he said.

    –Nick Daschel can be reached at 360-607-4824, ndaschel@oregonian.com or @nickdaschel.

  28. “Oregon State AD Scott Barnes on Trent Bray as defensive coordinator, a football GM, spring football changes

    Oregon State athletic director Scott Barnes has long believed in the CEO model for his football coach.

    Football is the largest sport in college in terms of numbers, and it needs someone to oversee everything, and not do so much day-to-day coaching.

    So, why did Barnes sign off with his second-year coach Trent Bray deciding to take over the Beavers’ defensive coordinator duties?

    “I can’t think of a better defensive coordinator, so I think we win there,” Barnes said.

    OK, so while that’s not the real reason behind the move for Bray to take over for the departed Keith Heyward, it is a factor.

    Barnes said he and Bray began talking midway through the 2024 season about Bray potentially returning as a position coach in addition to his role as head coach. As discussions elevated, Barnes believed Bray could handle the dual role of head coach/DC with an assistant. On Friday, Bray’s right-hand man was named, former Idaho head coach Robb Akey.

    “Trent is our head coach, and he will dictate the vision and the path forward in our program. But having a bit more expertise in Robb Akey, we got that, right?” Barnes said.

    Barnes said he was sold on Bray’s vision that “part of his value is being in the trenches with those guys at some level, and certainly the play calling at the defensive end, and the development of players.”

    In another area that impacts the head coach, FBS college football programs are increasingly hiring a general manager to oversee the mesh of talent and revenue-sharing opportunities. Oregon State doesn’t have a football GM, and Barnes insists “that’s a Trent decision.”

    Barnes is providing help, though, as he’s beginning to build out athletics staff that will oversee revenue-sharing initiatives, as well as reprioritize duties for some current staffers. OSU recently hired Justin Johnson, a former college offensive lineman, to fill the role of NIL business manager.

    “The growth of our NIL program will eventually dictate hiring an executive-level position that will oversee all of it,” Barnes said.

    On another front, there’s been growing discussions about changes to spring football. Some coaches have shown concern about the team’s spring game, and how it can become a scouting opportunity for rival coaches looking for transfer possibilities. There is a transfer portal window in April, which follows the end of most schools’ spring practices.

    Texas coach Steve Sarkisian went as far as saying he’s considering moving to the NFL’s offseason model of OTAs (organized team activities) and mini-camps.

    Barnes acknowledges there “is more risk” playing a spring game and showing it on television, but any decision to make spring football changes is Bray’s.

    “Our focus is what we’ve always been about,” Barnes said, “and that’s developing players.”

    — Nick Daschel can be reached at 360-607-4824, ndaschel@oregonian.com or @nickdaschel.

    • I don’t know what to say about Barnes. He is in a no win situation trying to put lipstick on a pig each day. Until the new PAC makes a media deal and has something to present, he sounds no different than Kliakoff.
      Barnes may be a good guy, but the matter of fact nature he presents regarding OSU fans continuing to fork over donations at will is remarkable.

  29. Rueck’s son is a BSU Bronco…and a decent golfer apparently…

    “Corvallis’ Cole Rueck is back-to-back Genesis Collegiate champion, earns berth to a PGA Tour event

    Cole Rueck, a Boise State junior and son of Oregon State women’s basketball coach Scott Rueck, bagged another Genesis Invitational Collegiate Showcase and the big prize that comes with it.

    Rueck shot a 3-under 69 at Torrey Pines Golf Course (South) in San Diego to win the Genesis by one stroke Monday. Rueck birdied the 18th hole to overtake Washington’s Finn Koelle.

    Rueck, a Corvallis High grad, is the first two-time winner of the Genesis. The tournament kicks off the week for the PGA Tour’s The Genesis Invitational, which begins Thursday and is hosted by Tiger Woods.

    The win gives Rueck an exemption in the PGA Tour’s Barracuda Championship July 17-20 at Truckee, Calif.

    In 2024, Rueck earned a berth in the PGA Tour’s Scottish Open after claiming the Genesis title, played at Riviera Country Club in Los Angeles. Riviera is the traditional Genesis site, but the tournament was moved to Torrey Pines this year due to the LA wildfires.

    Previous Genesis winners include Scottie Scheffler and Will Zalatoris.”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/02/cole-rueck-repeats-as-back-to-back-genesis-collegiate-champion-earns-berth-to-a-pga-tour-event.html

  30. ‘Big league stuff’: Dax Whitney poised to be next Oregon State baseball star

    “CORVALLIS — The future of the Oregon State baseball program was forever changed seven years ago, when a skinny, 12 year-old kid plopped down at a Buffalo Wild Wings and peered up at a television.

    The Beavers were in Omaha, barreling their way toward the third national championship in school history. Dax Whitney was in the middle of the summer travel baseball season, and his team stopped by the restaurant for a bite to eat in between games.

    Oregon State just happened to be playing in the College World Series that day and Whitney was instantly captivated.

    “I’m looking at the TV, and it’s 2018, and I’m watching them win the World Series,” he said. “And just ever since then — that was like my first taste of college baseball — and it was just like, I like Oregon State. It felt like a dream come true for me when I got my (scholarship) offer here.”

    The dream will come full circle this week, when No. 7 Oregon State opens the 2025 college baseball season and Whitney makes his Beavers debut.

    The 6-foot-5 freshman right-hander is expected to be a key part of the rotation, most likely as the Saturday starter, and has the makeup and stuff to become the Beavers’ next pitching star.

    The Oregon State staff is young and littered with question marks, but it’s also teeming with talent. Ten different Beavers hit 94 mph or higher in the fall. Junior Nelson Keljo, who is expected to be the Friday night starter, is widely considered one of the top prospects in the 2025 MLB draft. The sophomore class is so deep and potentially dominant, pitching coach Rich Dorman said, it could produce as many as eight draft picks.

    And then there’s Whitney.

    Even though he hasn’t thrown his first collegiate pitch, D1Baseball ranked him 70th on its list of the top 150 starting pitchers in the nation. Perfect Game considers him the fifth-best freshman in the nation. And he was so dominant in high school, MLB.com listed Whitney as the 56th-best prospect in the 2024 draft.

    “Dax is a young phenom,” Dorman said. “I hate putting that phenom tag to him, but he’s that talented. He could be very special in three years.”

    So special, in fact, that it was widely assumed Whitney would be preparing for MLB Spring Training this month rather than the college baseball season. He was one of the top prep prospects in last year’s draft and a potential first-round pick.

    But when draft day arrived last June, an anxious Dorman called to check in on his prized prospect — and see where things stood — only to discover that Whitney was roaming a golf course in his hometown, Blackfoot, Idaho.

    “Most kids are setting up their draft party,” Dorman said. “And he’s out on the course playing golf. With Dax, I was pretty confident he would make it to campus.”

    In the end, Whitney said, development, the chase for a championship and the allure of the college clubhouse were worth more than a seven-figure professional contract.

    “A lot of it was just me thinking about why I love playing baseball,” he said. “It’s being able to have a team and go dominate with your teammates. I just worried that if I were to go play pro ball (directly from high school), then I was just working for myself to climb the ranks. I knew that if I was going to come here, I would put myself in the best position to win a national championship.”

    And, according to team insiders, Whitney’s desire to pursue a championship has significantly improved Oregon State’s chances of reaching Omaha.

    He boasts an overpowering four-pitch arsenal that includes a 98 mph fastball, 12-to-6 curveball, slider and changeup.

    A self-described “late bloomer,” Whitney’s fastball topped out at 91 just two years ago. But it surged as he sprouted and, even though he’s been on campus only a few months, there has been measurable growth in other areas, too.

    Whitney has gained 26 pounds since arriving in Corvallis. And, he says, his secondary pitches have improved significantly in just a few months, thanks to Dorman’s guidance, the depth and competitiveness of the staff — and his first deep dive into analytics.

    Using cameras, computer programs and OSU’s state-of-the-art technology, Whitney spent the fall tweaking more than one of his pitches and fine-tuning the way he thinks about throwing. He spent bullpen sessions scrutinizing everything from his release angles to the metrics of his pitches, leaning on the data of spin rates and flight trajectory to adjust his mechanics and approach.

    Perhaps the biggest adjustment came with Whitney’s curveball, which, he says, used to be “kind of even with the vertical and horizontal movement … more like a slurve.” But after a minor tweak to his grip, the pitch has evolved into a knee-buckler, featuring a sharp, 12-to-6 break.

    “I was kind of unaware … what my pitches really did and how to make them play better off each other,” Whitney said. “So just getting used to all that stuff and being able to use it effectively has been the biggest jump for me.”

    In Blackfoot, a remote town of roughly 1,300 people in southeast Idaho, Whitney was so overpowering, his teammates nicknamed him “King.” He went 10-0 with a 0.27 ERA and 130 strikeouts as a senior and was, at times, literally unhittable — he thew a perfect game and a no-hitter. Whitney rarely faced trouble on the mound, but if he did, he knew he could “rip a fastball down the middle” and overpower his inferior competition.

    It’s been a different story at Oregon State, where the Beavers’ loaded lineup — and the discovery of analytics — have forced him to embrace the art of pitching.

    “I’ve actually got to execute, hit my spots, execute my pitches — think about how a pitch is setting up for the next one,” Whitney said. “So it’s just a whole ’nother level of advancement to where everything plays off each other and having to actually execute perfectly.”

    He’s been a quick study. Dorman praised Whitney’s “aptitude” and ability to “apply information quickly,” noting that it took him just two weeks of work in the fall to master that overhauled curveball.

    When asked if the hype surrounding Whitney was justified, Dorman didn’t bat an eye.

    “Oh, yeah,” he said.

    And Whitney’s teammates — who have had to contend with that new curveball and powerful heater, in addition to a 90 mph changeup and 84 mph slider — agree.

    “He’s got big league stuff,” sophomore third baseman Trent Caraway said. “He’s got one of the best fastballs I’ve seen.”

    Added junior outfielder Gavin Turley: “His personality kind of fits the role of someone that’s going to play baseball for a long time. There’s highs and lows in this game and I think he’s ready for it.”

    Seven years after falling in love with Oregon State at a Buffalo Wild Wings, Whitney is poised to help the program return to Omaha.

    “Any other school in the country, Dax is a Friday night guy,” Dorman said. “I’m excited to see what this kid can do.”

    — Joe Freeman | jfreeman@oregonian.com

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      It kind of has the feel of “Lets’ bring this country boy in a show him a computer so he can be better.”

      It sounds like more than tweaking mechanics, and a lot like an overhaul of his pitching approach. How can Dorman screw up a top 100 pitcher before he even plays an official game? This is what makes me nervous. Hopefully the kid can still just throw strikes instead of over-thinking each pitch. I’m not too excited about Dorman still being around. Maybe this year he can earn his salary with a lights out staff and a CWS title.

      • Psychology is important here. Guys with lots of tools have failed before due to lack of self-belief. If he’s used to being able to dominate guys in HS (and I’m surprised there’s no mention of him playing higher level competition in the summer) high-level college ball is going to be an adjustment. Good thing he’s facing good hitters in practice.

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        Yeah, I was concerned too about:

        “…thanks to Dorman’s guidance, the depth and competitiveness of the staff — and his first deep dive into analytics.

        Using cameras, computer programs and OSU’s state-of-the-art technology, Whitney spent the fall tweaking more than one of his pitches and fine-tuning the way he thinks about throwing. He spent bullpen sessions scrutinizing everything from his release angles to the metrics of his pitches, leaning on the data of spin rates and flight trajectory to adjust his mechanics and approach.”

        I hope they don’t screw him up.

        Analytics, “spin rates, flight trajectory…bat speed, launch angles…” I like empiricism, but there’s more to a team game than those empirical attributes.

        • OBJ, it just shows you the level Oregon State is at and shows they are keeping up with the new tech. Heck my nephew who is 10 is already working with analytics to improve his swing. I will say within one year of doing this, he has completely revamped his swing and is hitting solid. He could barely make contact before. So i know we are all hesitant on tech but there is a reason teams are shelling out millions for this technology. This stuff does work, especially for a sport like baseball.

          • Are we talking about fine tuning something or tweaking something? What about kids with unconventional pitching motions, sidearm, submarine etc? Do you try to “fix” something if it’s working?

  31. BTW, “…Using cameras, computer programs and OSU’s state-of-the-art technology…”

    Does OSU do this for its quarterbacks? I’ve not heard that they do…

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      Beavs are now even with Santa Clara in the loss column. Broncos have played 2 more conference games still have road games at Wazzu and St Mary’s. And a home game vs Gonzaga in their last 4. If the Beavs can get these next 4 which are all winnable, I can see them passing them in the standings for 4th. Probably the best the Beavs can finish in WCC play

  32. The game was at St Mary’s and SC doesn’t play them again. SC has @WSU @Pacific Home LMU and GU. SC could run this table or at worst be 2-2. 3-1 is more likely.

    • Down voted my own shit for that reason.

      However, the WCC postseason tournament is a wacky format. The difference between finishing 4th and 5th is playing an extra game. My point still remains the Beavs need to win these next 4 and try to finish in 4th instead of 5th. I don’t think higher than 4th is really attainable without serious help.

  33. “…Before hitting the road for Arizona, Beavers head coach Mitch Canham took the time to become Dr. Frankenstein by assembling the perfect ballplayer from baseball’s five tools.

    The scouting tools — hit for contact, hit for power, running, defense and throwing — are just about as old as baseball itself. They’re graded on a 20-to-80 scale, where 20 is the bottom, 50 is average and 80 is superhuman.

    While he couldn’t limit himself to just one name for each category, the following is what Canham’s perfect ballplayer would look like.

    Hit for contact
    Starting with hit for contact, Canham had two names come to mind.

    “Zone control, it’s (Easton) Talt. Bat-to-ball skills, Trent Caraway,” Canham said.

    Put one on the board for junior outfielder Easton Talt and third baseman Trent Caraway, who each make their first — but not last — appearance on the list. Neither are the prototypical thought of a high-batting average player, but Canham explained the reasoning for picking the pair.

    “(Talt) learned a lot from watching (former Oregon State second baseman Travis Bazzana) and other guys before him. He’s doing a good job of just swinging at stuff in the zone,” Canham said. “Caraway also is the guy who, you can throw anything and he can find a way to put a barrel on it.”

    Talt, who swings a left-handed stick, has been more pinch-runner than bat to this point in his career, but could be poised for a larger role this season. He hit .318 in 44 at-bats a season ago, appearing in 22 games and starting nine. Summer ball was less kind to Talt, with the outfielder batting just .218 for the Bend Elks of the West Coast League, but one thing has held true about Talt’s game — he gets on base.

    Talt walked more times (40) than he struck out (39) for the Elks this summer and was a demon on the base paths — we’ll get to that later. If the junior can keep up the good swing decisions Canham mentioned, his on-base numbers could be freaky.

    As for Caraway, his calling card is always going to be the long ball.

    The draft-eligible sophomore battled a finger injury for the majority of the 2024 season after wearing a pitch on his right hand that limited his at-bats to just 62, but still hit .339 as a true freshman. He remains one of the more highly-touted bats in the country as MLB.com’s No. 21 player in the draft, with one of the biggest reasons being the bat-to-ball skills Canham referenced.

    Hit for power
    Arguably the most fun category on this list is also the easiest for Canham to make a choice. Simply put, numbers don’t lie — it’s first baseman Jacob Krieg.

    Krieg, a junior from Antioch, California, is unquestionably the first guy off the bus for the Beavers. At 6-foot-5, 240-plus pounds, he’s a physical specimen that has translated his mass to deleting baseballs. He hit .278 in 144 at-bats last season as well as nine home runs, but it doesn’t tell the whole story.

    Kreig posted a 118.1 mph exit velocity against California State, Northridge last March, the hardest-hit ball in the program’s history since they started collecting the data.

    “Krieg hit the hardest ball in Oregon State history,” Canham said, referencing the record and adding more to the lore describing a moonshot from a recent practice. “He (also) hit a ball the other day at 54 degrees and it left, which doesn’t happen. Raw, real power, it’s Krieg.”

    Canham also gave junior outfielder Gavin Turley — who’s hit 33 home runs in two seasons — his flowers. While not the sheer, raw power Krieg boasts, Turley’s ability to put balls over the fence and in the gap to all fields is nothing to sneeze at.

    “Turley has always had crazy thump,” Canham said. “He’s doing a much better job using the entirety of the field right now.”

    Running
    Easton Talt makes his second appearance on the list, with Canham selecting him as the Beavers’ top speedster.

    “I can say Talt because of how he’s gotten down the line on a drag bunt,” Canham said.

    Remember that part about him being a demon on the base paths? Talt had WCL pitchers in a panic over the summer, stealing 24 bags in 35 games for the Elks. Not many can turn a walk into an extra-base hit, but that’s the game Talt plays. His limited at-bats for the Beavers haven’t given him the chance to fully tap into the speed (He’s stolen three bags in two seasons), but an increase in playing time could lead to a surge in base path thievery.

    Canham also mentioned two others, one expected and one surprise.

    Junior shortstop Aiva Arquette, who transferred from Washington this offseason, is probably the closest thing college baseball has to a five-tool player. Canham brought him up for speed as well as another piece of the list.

    But the surprise? A 5-foot-10, 197-pound utility infielder.

    “Oddly enough, Tyce Peterson,” Canham said. “I’m telling you, watching him do sprint stuff, he has the ability to scoot for his size. I’m not saying he’s our biggest burner, but you get surprised by watching (Peterson) run.”

    Peterson will be in line as an option at first and second base, with the ability to play some in the hot corner as well as a designated hitter.

    Defense
    Canham named just about half the roster when talking defense.

    Dallas Macias, a junior who’s slotted to start in centerfield, has great range in the outfield according to Canham. The Beavers skipper also said Krieg is one of the best defensive first basemen he’s coached, that Caraway has taken big strides at third and sophomore middle infielder Dawson Santana wins, “almost every competition we have at the end of our defensive work.”

    But the crown of best defender stays with the same ballplayer who had it last year, redshirt junior infielder Jabin Trosky.

    “Cleanest glove and feet, Trosky,” Canham said. “I’ve always said he’s a magician. It’s pretty crazy to watch how clean he fields the ball and flicks it.”

    After Caraway went down with injury, Trosky moved from backing up Bazzana at second to playing third base and recorded just three errors with a .968 fielding percentage. Things carried on through the summer with the West Virginia Black Bears of the MLB Draft League, playing 16 games at second, third and short, with Trosky recording just one error in 60 chances.

    Throwing
    Arm talent was an easy one for Canham, bringing up a pair of infielders that big league teams are chomping at the bit to get their hands on in Arquette and Caraway.

    “Caraway and Arquette, one of those two,” Canham said. “Put them at shortstop, back-hands in the hole and watch them rip it across. Both guys.”

    The pair were both high school shortstops, with Caraway moving off the spot when he reached Corvallis and Arquette expected to return to the position full-time for the Beavers after playing a lot of second base for Washington the last two seasons.

    Canham said he’s never pulled out the velocity gun to see just how much heat they’ll throw from one side of the infield to the other, but did say that they’ve got plenty of juice.

    ‘It’s like (the ball) rises when they throw it across the field,” Canham said.

    In Summary
    So that wraps it up, Canham’s perfect ballplayer would have: Easton Talt’s swing decisions and Trent Caraway’s bat-to-ball skills, Jacob Krieg’s power, Talt’s straight-line speed, Jabin Trosky’s glove and Aiva Arquette or Caraway’s throwing arm.

    While current scientific advancements and medical ethics prevent the creation of such a baseball player, the individual pieces of each will be in action for the first time in 2025 when Oregon State takes on Xavier at 11 a.m. on Friday, Feb. 14 in Surprise, Arizona.

    https://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/build-a-beaver-2025-constructing-the-perfect-oregon-state-ballplayer/article_5970cfdc-e8e6-11ef-b64f-539867565519.html?utm_source=second-street&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=portlandtribune-w%2cth&emailmd5=79d9ea4088acb79e8ba712a12f92ce00&emailsha1=225238253117486214323010310188213049142217222715753&emailsha256=fedcb165cca7fe4d677a4f6dd95f32eba587eaed9724ccece2789406036bd1ed

  34. Barnes, in his best Cap’n Obvious voice, says, “Regarding the future of sports like gymnastics, rowing, golf and other sports that generate little revenue, Barnes said “it’s going to be tough to fund those at the level they’re at. The settlement has unintended consequences. … the new expenses, those dollars have to come from somewhere.In prioritizing revenue sports, there will be some reductions over time.”

    No paywall link:
    https://archive.ph/i38Qz

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      Remove donors from revenue generating sports and only allow them to donate towards non-revenue programs.
      Football programs arent non-profits

    • I think Oregon State should double down on gymnastics. Strong program, with additional support, could do even better. Try to capitalize on Jade Carey, excellent athlete (duh) high character, loyal.

  35. MBB is playing atrocious defense again. Trail the Pilots 36-27 with about five minutes left in the half. Minor did not start “coach’s decision”.

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      “Coach’s decision” is code for Tinkle is now going to screw with their minds to toughen them up. Will it back-fire and several guys will transfer out as the season ending collapse begins to set in?
      Tinkle can’t help himself and he is going to implode another promising roster by over-coaching them.

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        ““Coach’s decision” is code for Tinkle is now going to screw with their minds…”

        No.

        We have all sorts of schools closing because of the flu.

        Apparently, the flu vax was not a priority for American citizens this year.

        Stupid is as stupid does.

          • 60% efficacy is decent. And the lessened effects for the 40% are immense. It holds true this year.

            Peak hospitalizations are much higher this year, despite less overall cases (so far). H1N1 and H3N2 are by far the reason. 8kun

        • There are literally dozens of bugs out there. The flu shot only involves the ones that is believed to be the cause of most illnesses. This process involves the FDA, CDC, and World Health Organization (WHO). In other words, you can get the prescribed shot and still get sick from another virus. Considering the last 4-5 years I would think more people would understand that. Just because you don’t get the latest shot does not make you stupid.

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            It’s too bad hospitals and clinics don’t keep track of which are which, when someone seeks treatment.

            You would think people would read that hypothetical data and surmise that hotspots for one or the other coinciding with school closures might lead to reports about one or the other leading to those closures.

            Not sure what you’re trying to say.

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            You said- “Apparently, the flu vax was not a priority for American citizens this year.
            Stupid is as stupid does.” Which plainly means you think not getting a flu shot is stupid.

            My point was it doesn’t make you stupid for not getting a flu shot that may or may not actually be developed for the type of bug you may get. In other words, you can still get sick.

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            You can.

            But those who didn’t get one are shutting down schools and clogging hospitals at the moment.

            I happen to think easily preventable disruptions to other people’s (and their own) lives is dumb.

            Sue me.

          • The problem is that you are speaking from a standpoint of ignorance. To wit: “Those who didn’t get one are shutting down schools and clogging hospitals…..” Sounds eerily familiar…..like what we heard during Covid….

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            Totally different situation.

            The strains of the flu that are shutting down schools and clogging hospitals (and killing elders and children) are the normal strains that the flu shot covers.

            There is zero ignorance on this, since the data is all readily available.

            It’s silly to think everyone would get a shot, because there are people who can’t even afford healthcare out there. And there are people that just aren’t that bright to begin with. That will never be a zero set.

            I’m also not aware of any political narrative/propaganda trying to scare people away from the flu shot. So it’s not that kind of stupidity.

          • There is no county in this country that a person can’t get a free flu shot. Walgreens offers free flu shots. The high price of Healthcare or someone’s income has nothing to do with that person getting one or not.

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            You continuing to pull numbers out of your ass that you, nor anyone else could possibly know. All to support a narrative that you are so much smarter than everyone else.

            What else remains?

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    What a shitty loss. This team looks nothing like the tough defensive team from earlier in the season. But I’m sure Daschel will continue to make excuses for Big Tinks. Is Tinkle’s road record under the Mendoza line now?

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    Absolutely horrific loss. There is absolutely no way that this team and their talent level should play close with Portland, let alone lose. Gonzage beat them by 40. This is purely coaching and a joke at this point.

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      If you recall???? Beavs fell behind by double digits to that team at home at the end of December. Had to come back for a meager 10 point win at Gill.

      Average or slightly above average team at best. With a shitty coach.

      They’ll dangle a carrot to suck you back in. Reality brings us back to earth

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        Maybe intimidated by the big city team with an international (!) airport…

        Fucking ridiculous. If you want a post season, you focus.

  38. Oregon State has promoted Jarred Brookins to men’s soccer head coach, replacing Greg Dalby.

    Brookins, an Oregon State assistant coach since 2023, becomes a college head coach for the first time.

    Brookins coached for two seasons under Dalby, both NCAA tournament teams. In 2023, the Beavers made their first-ever run to the College Cup, losing to Notre Dame in the NCAA semifinals.

    Dalby left to become men’s soccer coach at Air Force.

    Brookins previously coached at Davidson and Mercer, as well as club soccer in Alabama. Brookins played college soccer at Birmingham-Southern College.

    Oregon State has qualified for the NCAA men’s soccer playoffs the past five years, a period where it has produced five All-Americans.”

  39. Devan out and headed to Chicago. I wasn’t sold on him, but that’s a gut punch at a key position.

    I’m not sure how to take this slow trickle of assistants out of the program to the NFL.

      • Yeah they really stacked up, and stinks with the late departures so close to spring ball.

        With any new staff you expect the biggest improvement from year 1 to 2 but losing so many sucks.

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      I would take it as: “would you rather coach glorified HS football being paraded as college football, or coach in the NFL?” Since anyone with sense would take the latter, it’s the latter. He just took a way better job.

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        Except you’re the only one foolish enough to still be trying to sell the idea that Oregon State football is “glorified high school football” so I guarantee that thought had nothing to do with his decision.

      • It’s happening to everyone. So I guess college football in total is glorified HS football.

        I mean… it sort of is… everywhere but BYU.

        • Listening to Saban talk about what level he’d rather coach at, said the mindset of guys at the college level is not perseverance and hard work.

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    Now 8-3 t9 although OSU pitchers have given 10 bb, they’ve made key pitches stranding 10 Xavier base runners.

    Pitching doesn’t have to always be great but sometimes just good enough

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    And the Beavs start out the season on a positive note 8-3 as Mundt closes the door in the,9th. Beavs on their way to a 55-0 season…..lol

  42. How were the launch angles and exit velocities?!?? Pitch spin rates?!?

    Just (half) kidding, glad they won. Got a few friends down there, bet they had a good time watching the bats come alive….

  43. “That brought Arquette to the plate. And the Beavers’ splashy transfer portal addition didn’t disappoint, demolishing a 2-2 fastball to deep center for a two-run homer. The blast sailed onto the hill beyond the fence and after Arquette crossed home plate, he exchanged a high-five with Caraway, flexed and released a scream, celebrating his biggest swing yet with the Beavers.

    But the fireworks weren’t over.

    An inning later, Jacob Krieg and Weber opened the eighth by smashing back-to-back homers, adding a little insurance and opening the floodgates. Krieg crushed a 2-1 pitch into the left field bullpen and Weber clubbed a 1-1 fastball high onto the hill in center.

    Cleanup hitter Gavin Turley added a bases-loaded walk later in the inning as the Beavers opened the season in impressive fashion.

    Six different Beavers recorded a hit, including Caraway (1 for 3, two RBIs), Arquette (1 for 3, two RBIs) and Turley (1 for 3, RBI, two walks).

    Oregon State’s pitching, meanwhile, was good enough to dismiss Xavier.”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/02/aiva-arquette-late-game-fireworks-lift-oregon-state-baseball-to-season-opening-win-over-xavier.html

    • Like I posted above when someone complained about the pitching….pitching doesn’t always have to be great but just good enough and that’s was the case today…..it was good enough against a team picked to finish second in the big east conference.

      • You’re right, of course, but while pitching only has to be “good enough”, that only applies so long as the Beav bats don’t let the opposition arms look a lot better than that.
        After one game it’s too soon for this Beav to believe the bats will not have periods when they aren’t able to bail out pitching that is less than stellar.
        Still stuck in the Casey days of small ball and consistent D; but, at the same time, willing to see if big bats can carry a season. Could be a great ride, time will tell.

  44. Was a little surprised to see Eric Segura come on in relief today. Radio broadcast said he was not starting this weekend. Thought he was supposed to be the Sunday starter.

    Anyone know what the starting rotation plan is for this weekend?

    Is Dax Whitney making his debut Sarurday?

  45. political, but sports relevant:

    Trump administration rescinds NLRB memorandum viewing college athletes as employees

    “The National Labor Relations Board’s acting general counsel on Friday rescinded a memorandum issued by his Biden-administration predecessor that said she viewed college athletes as employees of their schools under the National Labor Relations Act.

    Friday’s memorandum from the Trump administration’s William B. Cowen rescinded an array of memoranda that had been issued by Jennifer Abruzzo, including the one from September 2021 that was accompanied by a statement from Abruzzo in which she wrote:

    College athletes “perform services for institutions in return for compensation and (are) subject to their control.

    “Thus, the broad language of … the Act, the policies underlying the NLRA, Board law, and the common law fully support the conclusion that certain (college athletes) are statutory employees, who have the right to act collectively to improve their terms and conditions of employment.”

    Friday’s memorandum comes against the backdrop of longstanding efforts by the NCAA, conferences and universities to pursue federal legislation that would prevent college athletes from becoming employees of their schools. A bill to that effect passed a U.S. House committee in June 2024, but went no farther.

    The new memo comes two days after the new Trump administration’s Education Department rescinded guidance issued in the final days of the Biden administration’s Education Department that stated that compensation paid by colleges to their athletes for use of their name, image and likeness (NIL) is subject to Title IX gender-equity policies.

    The National Labor Relations Act applies to private employers. The complaint sought to interconnect the NCAA and a major college-sports conference — both of which are private, non-profit organizations — to athletes’ alleged employment at a private school in a way that would have allowed the NLRB to take the position that every college athlete has a private employer: the NCAA and/or a conference. That, in turn, could have opened the door to the possibility of unionization efforts by athletes at public schools.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2025/02/14/trump-national-labor-relations-board-college-athletes-employees/78643572007/?tbref=hp

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      The Title IX one I never understood. Any additional compensation beyond just the opportunity to play sports on a scholarship and all that goes with that should be proportional to the revenues gained by each sport.

      Should schools do more to promote those sports and set them up with the best possibilities to succeed? Sure. But all that needs to be negotiated in collective bargaining with all the athletes as a whole.

      Show them the numbers, and tell them what is sustainable for their future sports. Let them reason amongst themselves and come back with their own solutions, then negotiate.

      This is only hard because the schools make it hard.

    • How do you stay on top of who follows who so closely? Do you have a spreadsheet of a accounts and check recent follows every day or is there an app for that lol?

      • No spreadsheets, just been doung this stuff for a long time and can recognize patterns.
        Plus I have some pretty cool followers who send me tips.

  46. Krieg caught looking to end each of the first four innings, all of ’em!
    Whose got the record for that stat?? Surely it’s on the books somewhere!

  47. Ducks lose the first of a doubleheader at home to Toledo.

    There’s a reason they were picked to win the B1G.

    Ranked 12th you say???

  48. Good preview of what future PAC baseball will look like without any major additions. Adding Tulane matters (or making some creative baseball-only additions, but that seems unlikely).

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      Early April Fools joke? This has to be gallows humor. Maybe Bray is just having some fun with it.
      I think the WSU roll of the dice with an entire FCS staff coming from the Dakota may be a better long term option than the retread nepotism we are in for. Akey was a reprieve from what I am concerned will happen. If Cav is indeed back, Langdorf is already here, who is next? Ugh…they were all only mildly successful in their prime, what can they actually contribute in their retirement years that helps? They are just siphoning cash that OSU doesn’t have to spend right now on extra cooks in the kitchen.
      Not a good thing at all.

      • He’s 62. Needed somebody from outside the program history….why leave UO OLine job for Oregon State? Has to be less money. Was UO disappointed with line play against Ohio State? 8 sacks, TFLs, low YPC….

    • Figure he’s a 1 year stop gap, and probably not bad considering the timing of Devan’s departure and Spring Ball starting soon.
      I think oregon had him an analyst rather than the full time OL coach.
      He’s helped put quite a few lightly recruited players in the NFL during his career.

      • Yeah, he was listed as offensive analyst.
        Devans departure left Bray hurtin’ probably best option for now. Hoping if anybody can get an old retread to focus, Bray can do it.
        Please now, no more “getting the band back together”…….unless it’s Ericson as advisor to the HC.

  49. MBB laying down another pathetic defensive effort. Pacific raining down threes. The game is tied 40-40 at the half in Corvallis. The team must be tuning out Tinkle again. There was another different starting lineup with LT on the bench this time. Minor is starting again.

  50. Beavs up 76-61 ,with 1.38 to go. The criticisms were kind of like a premature ejaculation….you got exercise some self control for the finish.

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        If someone has told me before the season started they’d be 18-9 and 8-6 after having to completely rebuild the team after losing their top two players and scorers, I would have said no way. Yet, here we are. I think they were picked in the preseason to finish 8th in the conference so I think they have exceeded those predictions so far.

        Sure, they’ve lost some ugly games on the road but look at the ducks with all of their resources, recruiting and a future HOF coach….they’re not setting the world on fire either.

        I don’t think anyone had serious expectations going into the season and at least they’re entertaining to watch for the most part.

        If they can finish strong and do well in the conference tourney, who knows. It certainly could have been much worse so far.

    • 8-6 in the very top heavy WCC. 2-4 record vs teams above them in the standings. 6-2 vs teams below them in the standings.

      Youre on season 1 of this series. Many of us are on season 8. Spoiler alert! It doesn’t end the way you think it will.

      Ejaculate on that

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      Is that you Tinkle?
      Give it a rest Esucks. We know the drill with Tinkle. Good luck with your delusions. He has and will continue to implode his own team, chase the talented guys out of town and keep a constant revolving door roster as his built in excuse for mediocrity.

      • Why don’t you call him and tell him you will coach up the team. He’s doing as good as what’s his name down the road and tinkle has fewer resources by far to work with. You sound like a typical schmuck fan.

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          LOL! You show up on this blog last fall, and I’m the schmuck fan because don’t drink the Tinkle kool-aid each winter… nice try. Go back to the drawing board and try again. I’ve been saying for years on this blog that there are high school coaches who could exceed Tinkle given the same resources and timeline. His extension after the elite 8 run has hamstrung the AD for several years and Tinkle has been coasting on that run for too long, and it was obvious the last couple of years he was simply mailing it in once he lost the locker-room. He has a schtick and a definite pattern to his coaching arc every season. This group may be able to overcome Tinkle, because Tinkle doesn’t build a program. He mixes a roster and needs a GP2 or and Ethan Thompson on the roster to lift the team in spite of Tinkle. I doubt that happens this year.
          Go Beavs, but get rid of Tinkle as soon as possible.

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            That’s priceless coming from a knuckle dragger who uses a handle that pokes fun at a long time beaver great that has overcome an addiction to alcohol. Be proud, be very proud.

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            Unfortunately, OSU is not a destination job. The best the Beavs could do is elevate a young guy from a smaller division and hope it works out.

            I’ll agree that tinkle isn’t a great coach, but he’s not horrible either and under the circumstances, he’s the best we can do for now.

            Until the whole realignment issue is settled, the beavers will always be fighting for scraps.

            Would I like to see them change directions, possibly, but we all witnessed what happened with the coaching carousel after Ralph Miller retired. They went through coach after coach and with each change, the program progressively got worse and worse.

            Remember on this forum how everyone complained about Riley and then Gary Andersen was hired. So be careful what you wish for bc we’ve seen the aftermath of coaching changes.

            I’m just glad the beavers are at least competitive and worth watching and are at least on the picture for a post season tourney whether it is the NCAA or NIT.

            Tenure in this blog doesn’t equate to knowledge either, but like some suggest the best coach is not always the next one to be hired.

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            Remember on this forum how everyone complained about Riley and then Gary Andersen was hired. So be careful what you wish for bc we’ve seen the aftermath of coaching changes.

            Well they hired the wrong guy and clearly didn’t do a very good due-diligence background check. Smith was much better than Riley. So, we could have and did do better. We just didn’t with Anderson due to lazy hiring (“Oh he’s from Wisconsin he must be good” seemed the approach).

          • At one point Tinkle had 4 Top 100 players on his roster and all he could achieve was a 16-16 record. GP-2 was not his recruit. The elite 8 run was flukish, I’ll give him a couple of bonus points for 1 month of success. This year’s team has enough talent to win at home in a mid-major conference. I guess that’s an achievement of sorts, but it doesn’t mean much with 10 years of mediocrity and two of the worst seasons in OSU hoops history.

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            Yeah, we all know how the Smith hire worked out too. He had 2 winning seasons in 6 years and then knifed the beavers in the back slithering out of town and tampering with players at the same time.

            I think Riley had two 10 win seasons too mixed in with some 7-8 winning seasons along the way and was responsible for the resurgence of beaver football as well as the first major project to Resers. He has some bad seasons too but I don’t recall any 1-11 type seasons either although I’d have to go back and check his record.

            To suggest that Smith was a better coach than Riley is based on too small of a sample size IMO.

          • Riley didn’t spur either new side of the stadium. The first was DE, and the second was Bobby D being pissed off Riley left and just willing it to be, even while fielding GA teams.

            So his second run was bookended by fundraising.

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    It sure looks like beaver pitching and hitting is struggling again today. Kleinschmit has a no hotter through 5 with 4ks and 2 BB and Beavs up 6-0 with 8 hits. Lol

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    Fun day at the ballpark. Beavers put together timely hits and made it look easy. Got there a couple of minutes before game time and slid into second row seats behind home plate. Sure like 1-4 in the lineup. White Sox scout sitting next to me said Whitney “threw one of the most dominant pitching performances he’s seen. Will be Friday night starter very soon this season “…. I didn’t ask him who was looking at today, he was timing deliveries to the plate as far as I could tell. Thought the no-hitter was happening, Macias had a good jump and got his glove on but just couldn’t get it.

    Arquette has a serious arm.

  53. Kleinschmit looked very good today. Was it due to facing a subpar Indiana team or is his stuff that good? Leaning toward to his stuff is that good.

    He doesn’t have a funky delivery like Hjerpe but hides the ball really well which makes all his pitches look faster and tougher to pick up. Closer comp is Mulholland but a little bit faster. I can see why he didn’t go D1 out of high school. He was only 160 then and didn’t gain the velo until LBCC. To me this is positive since he was not a power pitcher before and really had to pitch to spots. Will need to adjust once teams develop more in depth scouting reports.

  54. My layman’s opinion is a little of both. Had good command and mixed it up, but for me, it wasn’t like he was blowing them away.

    Says the guy who couldn’t hit a pitch after 14.

  55. Kleinschmit is more like Tom Glavine, in that he puts the ball where he wants. And what he wants is to be ahead of you in the count, so he becomes the aggressor.

    Since the scouting report is that he doesn’t have an overpowering fast ball, the batter just needs to figure out which of his other pitches is coming first. They at least should know it will be in the zone. So that narrows it down some.

  56. “Oregon State adds 5 to football staff, including former Beaver Trevon Bradford and Oregon Duck safety Nick Pickett

    Updated: Feb. 17, 2025, 11:56 a.m

    With Oregon State spring football just around the bend, the Beavers have added five to their coaching support staff, including three graduate assistants.

    Joining the staff in a role of quality control assistants are Mark Criner (defense) and Mikey Jacobsen (offense). Graduate assistants making their OSU debuts this spring are Adam Klein and Trevon Bradford on offense, and Nick Pickett on defense.

    All are new to Oregon State except Bradford, the former Beaver receiver who has worked with the recruiting staff the past two years.

    Criner was outside linebackers coach at Southern Mississippi the past three years. Criner is a veteran coach who has had stops at Portland State (1993-99 and Idaho (2007-12).

    Jacobsen served on UCLA’s staff since 2021, where he was a graduate assistant working with receivers. Jacobsen was the UCLA’s staff for three years with current OSU offensive coordinator Ryan Gunderson.

    As for graduate assistants, Klein comes from Temple, where he was a GA working with the offensive line. Pickett played 45 games over a four-year career at Oregon that ended in 2020. Bradford, who caught 151 passes for 1,904 yards during his OSU career, did some coaching at practice while assisting the Beavers’ recruiting efforts the past two years.

    –Nick Daschel can be reached at 360-607-4824, ndaschel@oregonian.com

  57. Game started late due to UNLV/Indiana going extra innings……

    Xavier starter records only an out. Jacob Kreig with a grand slam makes it 5-0 in the 1st

      • I know their has been much better players, but If I had to choose a All-time first Guy of the Bus for beaver baseball, it may be Kreig. I can’t think of a more physically imposing presence than him.

        Its a different style of ball than the old teams, but it nice to have a OSU squad that is as physically impressive as any team in the county. Football and Basketball always look small compare to their opponents.

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          Yeah, one thing I’ve noted as a major difference is these guys look like they have big league bodies as opposed to the little speed demons from earlier beaver ball clubs.

          Arquette, Turley, Kreig, Caraway….all big kids. In the past when we played top tier teams, our guys looked like kids compared to the other teams players. That has flipped now so you know Canham is doing a great job recruiting talent despite what some have suggested in the recent past about Canham..

          I recall after the PAC went under, several in here were predicting doom and gloom about players leaving. What they failed to take into account was the pedigree and blue blood stature of beaver baseball.

        • For football, I think one of the coaches last year said S Jaheim Patterson, 6’4″ 204, was the player he wanted as “first guy off the bus.”

          FGOTB?
          FGOB?

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    Kreig struggling bigly at the plate today. A grand slam, a two run dinger and 7 RBIs. 13-2:Beavs so far. Beavs have outscored opponents 43-5 in the first four games.

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          Seriously??? It’s getting awkward how oblivious you are to social norms.

          Another tough day at the play for the beaver hitters…

          Kreig struggling bigly at the plate today…

          It sure looks like beaver pitching and hitting is struggling again today…

          Just take a break man. I don’t want to read that stuff every darn game all season long. Go post on X or FB for your followers that want to see that stuff.

          • Please explain your “social norms” bc I’ve read much, much worse here than such a mundane comment as mine.

            So I’m guessing that using the word “bigly” is what set you off? Or was it something else? Either way, if that comment is what really angered you, you’re in for some rough moments ahead bc that’s a softball expression compared to some of the other stuff I’ve read on here.

            BTW, I use bigly quite a bit bc it’s been so often used, it becomes almost a slang for big.

            So please accept my most humble apologies if it offended your social norms whatever those happen to be.

  59. College Football Playoff meetings not about expansion. It’s about college sports survival
    Matt Hayes

    College football’s administrative heavyweights are meeting in New Orleans beginning Wednesday, and it should come as no surprise where this is headed.

    Revenue generation.

    Or, this quick summation from universities to players: You want pay for play? We’re getting more games.

    One SEC athletic director, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the process, gave a rough outline of what championship weekend could look like:

    ? The top two seeds play in the conference championship game.

    ? The next six teams – determined by conference tiebreakers, if needed – will play in a No. 3 vs. No. 8, No. 4 vs. No. 7 and No. 5 vs. No. 6 format

    ? The winners of those four games would move to the playoff. The losers would be available for at-large selections.

    The obvious wrinkle: The loser of the championship game, the No. 2 team in the league, isn’t guaranteed a spot in the College Football Playoff.

    But university presidents in the SEC don’t want to diminish winning the conference championship, nor do they want to minimize a high-demand television game that will command great interest in future media rights negotiations ? potentially as a stand alone game.

    More games equals more revenue from media rights holders, and that currently seems like the safest move to offset losing as much as $20 million annually in pay for play funds from each school’s media rights earnings. Schools can spend as much as $20 million on player salaries (for all sports, not just football), but aren’t required to commit to that number.

    University presidents don’t want to invite private equity into their sports programs, and expanding football – and more than likely the NCAA men’s and women’s basketball tournaments, and College World Series baseball and softball tournaments – is the path of least resistance.

    Just how potentially damaging to athletic departments is the $20 million pay-for-play budget? The SEC recently announced revenue sharing for the 2023-24 academic year, and that each school would receive $52.5 million from media rights revenue and bowl and NCAA tournament bonuses.

    The $20 million revenue-sharing pool set to begin in the fall of 2025 is nearly 40 percent of each school’s media rights haul. That’s a staggering number for universities that have since paid nothing.

    For the remaining two power conferences, the numbers are bleaker: ACC (an estimated $40 million payout per team) and Big 12 ($35 million) universities would spend at or more than 50 percent of each school’s media rights revenue.

    Unlike the first CFP contract (which ends with the 2025 season), the SEC and Big Ten won’t need a unanimous vote from the Bowl Subdivision conferences and Notre Dame to change the format. Beginning with the 2026 contract, there are some within the industry who believe the Big Ten and SEC won’t even need a majority.

    Multiple industry sources told USA TODAY Sports in September that the SEC and Big Ten are also in the early stages of expanding regular-season scheduling between the two super conferences in an effort to increase revenue. ”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/02/18/college-football-playoff-expansion-talks-revenue-survival/78992679007/

    And the PAC is hoping it $15M per team, correct?

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    This twitter/x platform is garbage. I barely use it anymore and then this morning I get a message telling me I’m in violation of their “spam” policy and my account is being locked for 3 days. No explanation of how i violated the policy. Just locked.

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        I barely use any social media anymore…facebook is dead, IG is meh…really all social media is people seeking external validation, and it’s gotten transparent/pathetic in that regard and old.

        • I use it for following news about the Beavs and that’s about it. but if they’re going to start flagging my account for no apparent reason, it may be time to shut it down.

        • Never been on IG or TikTok. Had a Twitter account set up, but never followed or posted anything. I used the search function for keywords in news, and it was great for accumulated posts from people (just like you and me) telling the local narrative and details left out of general reports. It drifted away from that into using algos to steer search results. So it basically became Google, and I don’t need two Googles.

          I come from the IRC days. So forums are what I trust for information on specific subjects. I’m not taking gardening, aquarium, or BBQ advice from someone on IG or TikTok. Even YT can be a chore filtering through all the crap.

    • It was a glitch, tons of people got erroneous notices that they were being locked for spam, but weren’t actually.

      Not that the platform doesn’t suck, just that you aren’t actually locked, it was just a glitch.

    • I took my class to OSU last week and toured part of the stadium. Didn’t have time to see the new hitting facility. I think the kids would really enjoy watching some baseball tomorrow during math….

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        What is your problem? I post a comment that was being facetious about the beaver hitters and you act like I committed blasphemy.

        If you don’t like my comments, feel free to ignore them. And please do educate me on “social norms” (lol) according to Krol in this blog. .I’ve seen and read much worse from others so take a chill and relax son.

          • I don’t know if it was using the word “bigly” that set Krol off or not, but I use that word from time to time without giving much consideration.

            That said, he seemed really upset and I had no idea it would cause him emotional distress. I guess now I know.

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            Wow, if people are that sensitive about a very mundane comment, they’re in for a tough life ahead of them bc life throws much meaner spitballs than I do.

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            Weekend recap,

            All in all a very good weekend but some basic stuff needs to be fixed.

            Walks walks walks – Beavs hitters are good about getting walks. Averaging a walk per inning. More walks than strikeouts. That’s good.
            Pitching is at a little over 6bb per 9. That’s not good. Can’t stay at that rate and expect the offense to bail them out especially in the post season.

            Strikeouts! Pitching averaging over 9ks per nine. Though these days that ranks as just average in the NCAA
            Krieg bounced back nicely after that golden somebrero game. But his k rate still sits at 37.5%. That’s awful. Last year was 34%. Really needs to get that down into the mid 20s.

            Big plus – fielding looked much better.

            Arquette probably had the best quietest weekend. Legit top 5 draft prospect.

    • Do you know, can you download D1 baseball onto a smart TV or do you have to cast it from the phone. I searched for the D1 app on my TV but couldn’t find one. Thx.

    • Not sure if this is what you want, but here you go: I buy a 1-month subscription to Flosports every year in February so I can watch the 2 Beaver tournaments it broadcasts and then cancel it. I think they have a Roku App now but I just cast it from my phone. Works out to $30 for 8 or so games, which is totally worth it to me. Much better than not watching them at all and the streaming quality and commentary has been great in my opinion.

      • If their feed is better than a handheld vhs recorder, then they’ve upgraded since I’ve been on.

        Maybe it’s a matter of what regions they contract production, and some regions are just behind in tech.

  61. “It took just one start for freshman Dax Whitney to earn his first college baseball award.

    The Oregon State Beavers starting pitcher on Tuesday was named the National Pitcher of the Week by Perfect Game, a fitting honor for a player who dazzled in his college debut.

    Whitney recorded eight strikeouts and allowed just four singles during his impressive debut, breezing through the Rebels lineup with a four-pitch arsenal that included a high-90s fastball and live 12-to-6 curveball. He fanned the first batter he faced with a 97 mph fastball, then one-upped the feat, striking out the next UNLV hitter with a 98 mph heater.

    He opened his outing by retiring the first five hitters he faced and ended his outing by retiring the final six hitters he faced, wowing a partisan crowd of 3,718 at Surprise Stadium — the largest college crowd in the history of the venue.”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/02/oregon-state-baseballs-dax-whitney-named-perfect-game-national-pitcher-of-the-week-after-electric-debut.html

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    How much of a financial hit are the Beavers going to take this season in baseball? Just checking the road trips. Separate trips to Nebraska AND Iowa, different trips to LA and SLO, Hawaii, the current jaunt through the Southwest. And a few fewer home games than usual to bring in some cash. And only three ranked opponents? Virginia, Oregon, Nebraska (as of right now).
    I don’t expect the Beavers to get any breaks from the committee when it comes to NCAA tourney seeds. Hopeful some of the other west coast teams can make some noise in the pre-season to move up.

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      As we all know, baseball is not a revenue generating sport to start with, but the travel costs will certainly add to their overall budget issues and will be absorbed by the overall operating budget for athletics. Future budget reductions coming to non revenue sports as Barnes recently stated.

      The budget crisis in athletic programs around the country is only a microcosm of what’s happening on a national scale as Inflation is on the rise again and budgets are being squeezed everywhere. The sign of things yet to come I suppose for OSU athletics.

    • Yeah I was hoping to attend either the Nebraska or Iowa series but will bo out of town both weekends. As far as getting squeezed by the selection committee I disagree as I think their baseball program has earned much respect and will be given the benefit of doubt. The Beavs are a “blue blood” baseball program. Now if they could only upgrade their status in football and hoops.

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    Ducks predicted to lose blue chip QB prospect as he flips to USC. Oh, that’s just devastating news. I guess Uncle Phil didn’t throw enough $$$$ his way. #winning#

    • I see Virginia’s game today in Charlottesville was cancelled.
      So their record is 2-1 going into the Friday 2pm (pac) game vs Beavs.
      Hard to over emphasize the need for a Beav win vs a team still ranked #2.
      Bill is right regarding the need for the Beavs to add a game somewhere in the season; hopefully against a ranked team.

  64. An AP story on changes to NCAA baseball has quotes from just a few coaches, Miiiitch is among them. A proposal that would extend eligibility from four to five years, along with a roster cap at 34 means fewer opportunities for high school recruits.

    Here’s Mitch:
    “…you don’t have room to keep a whole bunch of guys around to develop, which is tough because that’s something we’ve done a lot of,” Canham said. “It’s almost as if, am I going to trust an 18-year-old who has never played Division I baseball to come in and do this? … Or are you going to get a 21-year-old (transfer) who has hundreds of at-bats and experience against older competition?”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/college-baseball-future-may-see-greater-imbalance-in-competition-high-school-prospects-squeezed-out/ar-AA1znibU

  65. I don’t know what NIL dollars are flowing into college baseball, but five years seems kind of pointless if your top players are being drafted as juniors. But I do think college baseball figures since MLB gutted the minor leagues, might not be hard to convince a player to stay an extra year or two when the alternative MIGHT be one of those independent leagues. I think most players would rather keep playing college ball, than spend a year or two in the rookie leagues.

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    Not beaver sports related but a top that might save you a bunch of money. I was getting ready to trade in my 2023 Lexus 350 Rx hybrid w/low miles and in virtually new condition with a very small rock chip in the bottom center of the windshield. .

    I was offered $46,500 as a trade in on another SUV but that seemed a little low so I posted it for sale. A small business in Vancouver, WA, contacted me and turns out they are a broker to that runs an online auction for dealerships in the NW.

    I explained I was offered $46.5K and they told me they could get a much better offer than that…..probably closer to $49k. Two days later, the auction ended with a winning bid of $49.6k to a dealership in Beaverton…

    The broker, Carsolve.com, set up the online auction, contacts the winning bidder and sets and appointment for me to turn in the car, and they cut me a check after paying off the o/s loan amount and I’m on my way.

    I pay the broker a $249 fee for their service and it’s that simple. So if you’re considering trading I’m a high demand, limited model car or SUV, you might want to check with Carsolve.com. I will walk away with $3,100 more minus $249 fee than had I trade it in for $46,500.

    A pretty slick family owned business they’ve got going. I was very impressed with how simple it was to essentially make slightly less than $3,100 in really less than 1/2 hour of my time. It’s well worth checking out of your on the market to sell your car.

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      BTW, these are legitimate dealerships that bid on cars and not some fly by night operation. The dealership buying my car is a well known dealer in Beaverton.

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    Wow, the last two minutes of the ducks Iowa game was crazy as they had 4-5 reviews that were razor thin close and all went against Oregon but the ducks win 82-80.

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      I think this beaver team might very well surpass a few of the championship teams as they are stacked with great talent, deep pitching and amazing offensive potential. Of course, that really depends on how healthy they stay.

      Our of the 3 national title teams, I’d have to pick the number 1 team as the 2018 team, but I think this year’s team could be even better.

      The 2017 team was probably better than 2018 but got jobbed in the playoffs by horrible the home plate umpire on balls and strikes….some of the worst umpiring I can ever recall seeing.

      Although way too early to call, this year’s team certainly has the potential to surpass the 2018 team IMO. We shall see.

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    Anyone rooting for Canada vs USA today in the championship game? If so, it will kind of be like you’re rooting for the USA since Canada will eventually become the 51st state. Go Can-America….that kind of has a catchy ring to it….I think that’s what we should officially name the 51st state.

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    ESPNsucks=Troll spammer pretending to be an OSU fan.
    Hint: The more Esucks comments about past OSU teams or coaches, the less convincing he is as an OSU fan. I think he changed his handle and has been on the site before as a different troll.

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      Ohiobeav, I’ve been a beaver fan longer than you’ve been alive. You spend too much time banging on the beavers and the coaches while a true and life long beaver fan supports them during the good and bad times and that’s what I do. You can’t say the same though. Have a nice day son.

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        Your claim that I’ve had other handles is another baseless claim just like the claim I’m not a beaver fan. You just get upset bc of my political views.

        • Dude, I don’t know your political views, nor do I care that much to know them. It’s a sports blog and you are a clown and seem like a typical troll based on why you say, when you say it and how often you feel the need to say it. Nothing personal.

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    Nick Madrigal picked up by the Mets this spring. I certainly thought he’d have a great career, but I think injuries have slowed him down. I’m anxious to see how Michael Conforto does with my Dodgers.

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    31-16 Beavs at halftime and that was quite possibly the most inept shooting performance by SC in the first half I’ve ever seen, however the Beavs defense is very tough.

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        Well, we will see but it really is based on their NET rankings and wins against Q1 and Q2 teams. I think they’re on the bubble but if they can get to 22-23 at maybe 22-10, that could be enough depending on the NET.

      • Agreed and has been discussed. Some choose not to believe it. Beavs are 1-5 in quad 1 games and have one quad 1 (St Mary’s and potentially a 2nd, SF at home) left in the regular season.

        Net and Kenpom rankings after last night

        Gonzaga 10/10
        St Mary’s 21/20
        Santa Clara 55/57
        San Francisco 62/64
        Beavs 77/80

        Santa Clara and San Francisco aren’t even being talked about as bubble teams. Not in the first 4 out or next 4 out. Gonzaga and St Marys are safely in.

        The Beavs need one more win to finish no.worse than 5th in the WCC. However, they’d need to jump Santa Clara and finish 4th to avoid having to play an extra game in Las Vegas. Santa Clara finishes at Wazzu, home to Gonzaga (whom they beat in Spokane) and at Pacific. They could win all 3 or lose 2. They aren’t losing to a terrible Pacific team. At the moment there is no clear winner in the tiebreaker as there’s still meaningful games against teams higher in the standings for both.

        Betting on the Beavs to win a road game at St Mary’s (whom they couldn’t even beat at home) or beat both SMC and Gonzaga in Las Vegas is foolish thinking. Im not even convinced they could beat USF, Santa Clara or even Portland on a neutral court. These guys cannot beat above average/good teams away from Gill. And even lose to shit teams on the road.

        The WCC is a 2 bid league. Unless someone not named Gonzaga or St Mary’s wins the WCC tournament.

        The best these guys can do would be an NIT berth. And honestly that’s probably fine as that is their ceiling.

        • correction: The game vs San Francisco will not be a quad 1 win opportunity since the game is at Gill. It would be a quad 2 as long as USF maintains their current NET ranking. The point being there’s not enough quad 1 wins for OSU to even be near the bubble nor is there enough opportunity left to get close the bubble.

          Quad 1: Games against teams ranked 1-30 in the current NET at home, games at a neutral site against teams ranked 1-50 in the NET, games on the road against teams ranked 1-75 in the NET.
          Quad 2: Home games against teams 31-75, neutral site games against teams 51-100, away games against teams 76-135
          Quad 3: Home games against teams 76-160, neutral site games against teams 101-200, away games against teams 136-240
          Quad 4: Home games against teams 161-353, neutral site games against teams 201-353, away games against teams 241-353

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            Thx for covering this with that information. Based on that, beavers have no margin for error in the next few games and must show well in the WCC tourney.

            If it turns out to be the NIT, that’s at least something and better than no post season at all. Maybe tinkle find lightning in a bottle like he did in the Elite 8 run…doubtful but you never know. We shall see.

    • Just watched another podcast on the PAC12 and it really sounds like TX State and North TX are the next teams to join. Bc UNLV signed their GOR through 2032, they have exit fees of $17M plus buying out the rest of their GOR term through 2032 which makes it cost prohibitive. The caveat is the pending legal case and if that is settled out of court, it could reduce their exit fees so. We should know the status by mid-to-late March.

    • Can’t seem to find the article (probably because it’s behind a paywall) but Wilner recently had a piece that pointed out the recent viewership data release demonstrated that the Pac12 football teams(the 5 new teams plus WSU/OSU) were averaging about 5 times the viewership as the teams that remain in the MW conference last season. He was theorizing that would lead to a media deal around 5 times the value of the MW conference.
      Considering that data is fairly new, you have to think that those offers are currently being negotiated with prospective media partners as we speak, and those conversations are only starting to get real right about now. I know the media and podcasters are in a rush to see which teams the Pac adds to round out their football conference, but the conference has the opportunity to be methodical with that decision given there are several potential teams out there, and once they have real numbers to discuss, they will have some leverage over the conferences they’re trying to pull teams out of.

    • I think it’s spot on. How long/often has the no news we think means deals are being developed sputtered out. Between this, the SEC/Big 12 takeover, and world events in general. . .

    • lol… Abilene Christian… lol

      The very fact this yo-yo doesn’t know their jump to FBS would, in fact, take years is enough to call this tripe.

      Also, Presidents were not present at that meeting. The ADs were, and are expected to report all to the Presidents back home.

      I’ll get excited once St Patrick’s Day comes around, if we don’t hear anything before that. That’s a Monday, and we know the Pac likes to announce things on Mondays.

  72. “The SEC finally looks like it’s moving to nine conference games.

    “There’s a lot of interest in (a nine-game conference schedule),” SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said Wednesday in New Orleans, where conference commissioners and athletic directors met to continue shaping the new college landscape.

    The SEC moving to nine games allows for alignment between the two super conferences of college football. The Big Ten has been playing nine conference games since 2016, and the discrepancy between the two conferences has been a postseason qualification argument since.

    The potential change by the SEC opens the opportunity for the two conferences to build a non-conference scheduling agreement. Those games, and the nine conference games, is the driving factor to add CFP play-in games during championship weekend and expand the postseason format to as many as 16 teams.

    Playing nine conference games and adding a non-conference scheduling agreement allows the Big Ten and SEC to demand more access from the new College Football Playoff contract, which begins in 2026. Translation: automatic qualification, and as may as four spots per conference.”

    Surprise!

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      Pretty typical that the SEC finally adjust their conference schedule to 9 games, and immediately want to create a buffer for the added losses by insisting on automatic bids for their conference. Of course they frame the argument as a superiority to other conferences, but they have been gaming the system by playing fewer conference games for a long time. Sankey is only and always gaming things for the SEC, and will be known historically as the main culprit among many who killed the golden goose. There is a certain allowance for seeking your conference goals. But when that goal is actually destroying all other aspects of college athletics and competing conferences, it is no longer commendable. I wonder if Sankey ever has a reflective moment and considers in hindsight the damage he has done to college athletics. Of course he is directed and partnered with ESPN all along the way, but he still pulls plenty of leverage to push the SEC propaganda.

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    So I just read that ESPEEIN is terminating their broadcast agreement with MLB after 2025 so it’s not just my handle that proclaims they suck, it’s reality bc they actually do suck! They helped to kill the pac12 now they’re going after the MLB. It will be interesting to see which network picks up MLB in 2026, Fox?

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    Good news for the WBB team as Ferreira and Bolden have said they’re coming back for another season. I knew that Ferreira had another year of eligibility but wasn’t aware that Bolden did.

    With the emergence of Kennedie Schuler’s game, the return of Bolden and Ferreira and Schimel, this team could be very good although big holes to fill with the losses of Rees, AJ and Heide. I know they have the 6’5″ transfer from Spain and some other players that have potential, but they’re unproven. Hopefully, Rueck is able to work his recruiting magic in the portal after this season. .

    • Schuler is developing into an adequate backup at point guard, but she has a long way to go to become a solid starter. Her defenders sag back and clog the middle because she shoots less than 15% from 3 point range, and her mid range game is about the same. She can drive reasonably well but her shots get rejected half the time. When she goes to the line, she shoots less than 60%, and that is a recipe for disaster down the stretch. She is also turnover prone, but that seems to be improving. Team ball movement when she is in there is painfully slow. Compare her to Donovyn Hunter, who currently sits for TCU but plays about 20 minutes a game. It’s not even close. I won’t even ask to compare her to the likes of Hannah Hidalgo, Georgia Amore, Kiki Rice or even Talia Von Oelhoffen. Getting Bolden and Ferreira for another year is going to help, but they are going to need some big time help in the middle, as Mehyar is, unfortunately, a project along the lines of Jo Grymek.

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    Beavs leaving too many runners on base so far. 6 after 3 innings so they are getting them on, getting them over, but not getting them in.. Keljo looking good first 2 innings

  76. Wow! In seven innings or 21 outs, Beaver hitters have struck out 13 times! You can strand a ton of runners by not putting the ball in play.

  77. Very nice win, but does anyone now think that Virginia deserves a ranking in the top 10?
    Not at all taking anything from the Beavs, just that Va seemed more sloppy than a #2, or even #8 should be. A WP and a PB didn’t help. Cold temp may take some blame…or not.

    Nice to see some small ball from the Beavs, mostly worked out well IIRC; except for one caught stealing.

    On the topic of teams that now look over rated, didja see “#11” nike dropped their second game this year? This one to powerhouse Rhode Island.

    • I didn’t think they were that good and deserved a no 2 ranking.
      Maybe they’ll get better as the season progresses. Idfk.

      Oregon was getting curb stomped 12-4 in their own park. Save for a late rally it ended 12-11.

      Again, there is a reason Oregon was picked to win the B1G. It’s not because they are a great team either.

  78. Remember when we suffered through broadcasts with Jon Warren? So refreshing to listen to Josh Worden, even if he does often use “knock” in place of hit.

  79. Great win, huge for the RPI.

    I can see why Segura is coming on in relief right now. Keljo is on a pitch count and it’s not getting him past 4 innings yet. Need someone to bridge a lot of innings. Slide Kleinschmit to the Sunday role and Segura into essentially a second Friday starter role. Wonder how long it’ll take Keljo to start going deeper into games and then Segura can go to mid week. Second week of March they’ll have 5 games in a row so they’ll need everyone to throw more innings.

  80. “ROUND ROCK, Texas — He praised their lethal lineup. He celebrated their powerful pitching. He drooled over their suffocating depth.

    And when Virginia Cavaliers coach Brian O’Connor finished heaping platitudes on the Oregon State baseball team, he figuratively doffed his cap to a group that literally overwhelmed his national-championship caliber club.

    “Oregon State’s got a really good ball club in every facet of the game,” O’Connor said. “They ran out some really high-quality pitching, certainly played good defense. But throughout their lineup, I was just impressed. They did a terrific job.

    “I think they beat us in every aspect of the game.”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/02/no-7-oregon-state-baseball-earns-statement-win-over-no-2-virginia-as-eric-segura-shines-in-new-piggyback-role.html

    • It’s weird to have an opposing coach get beaten by the Beavs and then praise them. Like you almost want the opposing coach to be an asshole after a big win, but he is the opposite.

      • And it may be possible that the Beav lineup could just be that much better than anyone expects. I’ll admit I have a bias to expect that we can’t have nice things as Beavers. Hopefully this is the year Mitch breaks through and wins it all. If they stack up that well in the eyes of a top 5 UV coach who isn’t directly competing with OSU all the time, perhaps we have a better team than we realize.

      • Looked up his history. He’s a very good coach, got the job at age 32. 1 title, 1 runner up, 7 CWS appearances, missed postseason twice in 20 years. Was the coach when the Beavs came through the UVA regional on the way to the CWS in 07.

        If you want an asshole coach comment, wait till there are comments from SEC coaches.

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