Old thread was slowing down so starting a new one.
Football team has 2 coaching vacancies to fill (RB & TE) and the late signing day is coming up in about a month.(Feb 5th)
I’m expecting the RB spot will get filled soon. My money is on Ray Pickering still.
I’m suspicious the TE job will be a promote from within hire with Will Heck getting the increased responsibilities, which would also open an offensive quality control position.
Should continue to be another active month of offseason roster building activity.
Would also think they’ll fill the roles left by Decoud and Roberts
I don’t think Decoud was still on staff when he was hired by Idaho. But Roberts was, as a grad assistant.
I’m sure there will be the usual amount of typical Grad Assistant turnover this offseason, just because those jobs are fairly durational.
Those guys want to get paid.
I’m actually surprised how little some of the staff positions in college football pay. I say a job listing recently for University of Minnesota’s program, and they had a few recruiting positions open. Their listed pay was around $50K
Kindof shocking when you think about how important that job is to a program, and how much the on-field coaches make.
That’s a lot of money for someone young in Missoula… for a fairly insular job. That last part is what makes future bank.
that’s a hell of a commute from Missoula to Minneapolis/Saint Paul
I read Montana, and I’m sticking to it. lol
It’s still a lot for the Twin Cities. It looks like their CoL is less than here. A lot of grads out here would be fine making that out of college.
Oh yeah, first!
Been a fan since Tommy Prothro and Slats Gill days. There has been a lot more bad than good days for the Beavs since then. I think Bray has a good chance of providing more good days but hopefully we can get a quality mbb basketball coach to have them there too.
Thanks for the recruiting updates NiceBeaver. I know recruiting is not what it used to be with the portal, and is more difficult to track with less certainty given the number transfer activity, but I appreciate you posting what info you have time for and interest in sharing.
OSU is doing far better than I expected this offseason and 2025 looks like it could be an interesting season and dare I say it, entertaining at times. I suspect the 4*s that didn’t pan out for whatever reason at their previous stops are looking for PT and a chance to show they weren’t misevaluated. Some quality O and D linemen would be nice, as well as keeping Collins and meaningful growth from existing DL – Johnson, Hickle, Howard, and Pome’e.
With the potential add of another 4* TE addition this weekend, I can see the beavers using a double TE formation much like Stanford did about 10 years ago with an emphasis on a power running game. This would set up the play action with a trio of solid receivers on Vaslin, Clemons and Walker. I also think you could put JJ in the slot to utilize his speed and big play potential. This should be interesting especially if we don’t have any major defections in the portal.
Our offense will only be as good as our OLine though. We took some hits from graduation and the transfer portal. Would really like to see some experience added to that room.
Agreed, but we do have some pieces but need to add some quality depth
By the way, I’d been reading that Jensen Huang gave a keynote speech tonight and Nvidia still continies to show impressive growth, with seemingly undending potential growth to come. So i checked to see where Huang sits on the net worth charts.
He has surpassed Microsoft’s Steve Balmer and currently sits at #9 in the world, a little behind Warrwn Buffet, at $130b and rising. 4x the net worth of Phil Knight.
He has the potential to pick off the next few on the list this year which would put him up around #5, knocking on Larry Ellison’s door.
Just insane how much wealth he has accumulated the past few years.
It would be cool if he offered to purchase Nike and pull the rug out from those smug mother duckers.
Egad! The FCS game last night. Good thing Vigen signed a new multi-year contract. He and Dan Lanning tie for bad coaching in this playoff season. And, tell me again why the Beavs don’t/won’t recruit in the Dakotas.
That last play was egregiously bad
Seriously. With 10 sec left, why not send one guy back to make a fair catch and rush the rest? You would have one maybe two plays to get into FG range. WTF?
That was coaching malpractice!
The top rated players for MSU and NDSU are all from Montana and Idaho. Beavs have always pulled a few players from there each year.
Do they scout better or develop better?
They also have 50 years of recruiting relationships in all the plains states. It’s like asking why they don’t recruit the Portland area, like we do.
Plus if you’re one of these guys, do you stay home and play for a national championship or go somewhere else and…not?
Both QB’s were better than anyone on the beavs roster this past season. It was a fun game to watch.
More evidence that Will Heck is the new TE coach. We just offered this 2026 TE and he tagged Heck in the post.
https://x.com/JaivionMartin/status/1876685496438665572
Yeah from the rumor mill Pickering and Heck are all but confirmed. Big question is who is the other staff departure floated.
people have been asking me about Heyward lately, so maybe he’s on the move?
I haven’t heard those rumors personally, though.
I learned coaching staffs are no longer limited to 11 on field coaches. They can go as high as they want now. So they could hire a coach for each position if they like
What the heck????
Well, Timena Gardner is on #1 UCLA, TVO on #5 USC….but I think had the squad stayed together they could have been top 10…..looks like it’s working out for them though. Individual stats down, but team sport and all…
Gardner played 18 minutes and scored 5 points last game and when I’ve watched USC, it seems like her teammates don’t even look to pass her the ball although she’s had a few 10 points games. Lily Hansford for Iowa State barely shows up in the box scores, I don’t think I’ve ever seen Dom Paurova show up in any of the Kentucky box scores, Reagan Beers is doing very well for Oklahoma, and Devin Hunter at TCU plays a lot of minutes but doesn’t score much bc of Van Lith and Sedona Prince are the main scorers…
On the men’s side, Jordan Pope was averaging just under 8 PPG at last check and Tyler B was UCLA’s leading scorer earlier in the season.
If I had to guess, I’m thinking that some of them wished they had stayed at OSU.
The only player that I have any serious bad feelings about is Tvo for the way she conducted herself leading up to and immediately following her declaration to leave.
……that is Tvo for USC…..
Well, she was an OSU graduate and apparently followed her boyfriend down there.
So at least she graduated.
Built not bought, we believe in Oregon bc they believe in us. What a croc of horse dung. No only that, she banged on fans that criticized her in the media for leaving instead of just laying low and saying nothing like the rest of the players who left. As the senior on the team, she showed her level of immaturity when she leveled criticism at OSU fans. Her younger teammates showed much more class than she did.
I read Paurova is 33 years old. Is that true??? I don’t think she’s actually on their roster. Looks like she was playing internationally in July.
No, Paurova is not 33 years old. She was born March 22, 2005. Unless that’s the new math, she is 19 years old and has been out all year with a lower leg injury. 33 lol
Google her!
About
Born: 1991 (age 33 years), Poprad, Slovakia
Current team: Kentucky Wildcats women’s basketball (#12 / Guard)
Height: 6? 1?
Ummm, search results can be wrong. She played on Czech U20 team last year. Pretty sure they verify ages for those girls.
If it’s on the interwebs, it’s true.
Yeah, she is 19 not 33.
You have to Google the right information..I saw the ,33 years old and said no way so I did a more thorough search that said her birth date was March 22, 2005. So she is in fact 19. What coach is going to pick a ,33 years old to play college ball?
Northern Illinois joins Mountain West. Football only
Does that mean unlv is on the move??
Just spitballing here…What if the PAC12 could make a move and convince Oklahoma to leave the SEC and join the PAC12? Add Oklahoma as the 9th team, and sit tight for a while? Or pursue UNLV, Tulane and Memphis as well?
Maybe Oklahoma has buyer’s remorse and realizes they will have a much tougher time getting out of the SEC, turn westward and look at the PAC12 as a better opportunity?
What has you thinking Oklahoma?
I’d imagine they’re locked into the SEC whether they like it or not
I just saw a Locked on Big12 video and they were kind of kicking around some issues around Oklahoma fanbase about regretting the SEC move after this years results. They were pushing a return to Big12 but it got me thinking about 2012(?) what ifs when Larry Scott nearly pulled off the coup of the century be raiding the major Big12 brands before he flopped and destroyed the conference.
Locked On is troll bait nonsense.
https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1876893081175253197
I guess Tinkle isn’t the only one fed up with his players’ attitudes and throwing them under the bus. Mick Cronin goes off in his guys publicly.
I don’t recall a single name of the Tinkle team from hell when the players refused to play. Did any of them make it in basketball or in life?
Unlikely
quarterback Ben Gulbranson is no longer with the Beavers football program.
A source told The Oregonian/OregonLive that Gulbranson will not be included on the team’s roster heading into spring. The source also said Gulbranson is not in the transfer portal. It is not known if Gulbranson enrolled at OSU for winter quarter, but it’s unlikely as he recently wrapped up a master’s degree.”
5′ 10″ 180 lb. Safety Jack Kane has elected to return to Beaver football next season.
Feels like Ben would find a school with a medical school where he can also be on the football team but maybe he just wants to focus on medical school which would make sense as well. The free year of school seems worth being on the football roster somewhere you’d think though.
Best of luck to Dr. Ben – hope you do great things in the world!
Apparently Blitz is now reporting that pickering will be the RB coach, fwiw
https://x.com/beavs_report/status/1877051577460207758?t=brimfpPcGCcJ7KzA3Elm4A&s=19
Curious if anyone knows the connection between Bray and Pickering? Wonder how Bray identified him as the best guy for the job…
I think he and Gundy must have known each other already
Even if they haven’t coached together, many coaches cross paths with each other through camps or recruiting.
He was the top Pick….ering…
Looks like our last home game next year is November 8th! That’s quite early. Love me some late November cold and rainy games. Sucks for the student body as well to not have games to go to for most of November.
Let’s go ducks!!!! Lol!!!
I think your dumb a** Ducks have a couple games in their crap town in November…. Enjoy….. oh I know you are a true “Beaver fan” bla bla bla…. I don’t buy it.
Nemec is reporting that Waverly will commit to the beavers this Saturday FWIW.
I forgot about that guy. I wonder how his New Year’s Day went.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEkPF1ixD_v/?igsh=eWQzZjZ2MzYzNmhn
Jam Griffin’s physical therapist confirms his injury, ACL and MCL tear. Glad to see him rehabbing hope he eventually gets an NFL opportunity.
Pickering is currently in NY and should arrive on campus tomorrow. Talked to someone very close to the process who is very bullish on what his impact will be for recruiting. Of course it’s a biased opinion, but I like the optimism.
OptimisticBeav
Looks like Iowa got their qb in South Dakota State qb Mark Gronowski.
In a piece on Rataj, Eggers says, “The rules have changed to allow foreign players to receive NIL funding.
“I’m getting NIL money here now,” Rataj says…”
Not sure if that has been mentioned here.
https://www.kerryeggers.com/stories/beavers-michael-rataj-he-is-a-fabulous-kid-to-be-around
It’s taking forever for the college football championship games to play out and determine a winner. Losing interest with both the timeframe and remaining teams.
When they expand the playoffs again, we’ll start seeing the championship game played around the time some teams are having their Spring game. I kid, but not really. Some teams play their Spring game in February.
An 8 team format seems ideal. Or, 16 and get rid of the conference championship.
Drew Rasmussen signs 2 year extension with Tampa
https://sports.yahoo.com/drew-rasmussen-rays-agree-2-162936324.html
Transfer Portal EDGE – 6’4 240lbs – All Mountain West 2nd Team – Juco All American DE – California Defensive Player of the Year
A guy beavers need to get star edge will boost pass rush and run de a lot because can slide in to
Bray needs to offer this guy and go after him get a visit
Cian Slone He’s a beast
https://x.com/CianSlone/status/1877056007492252147
https://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/10150188-boise-state-oc-accuses-oregon-of-tampering-player-offered-700k-after-fiesta-bowl
hole being hole
Yup, death-taxes-hole
Speculation that Georgia X-FER QB Carson Beck could end up at Texas Tech, making that game more challenging for the Beavers next year?
He was pretty mediocre this year and will be coming off an elbow injury
So much better if he’s healthy when the Beavers win..
Miami won the bidding war I guess….
No wonder my moniker is what is. I pay for a streaming ESPN+ service and I can’t get the OSU WBB game on the plus bc it says it hasn’t started yet but here we are halfway through the first quarter and still can’t get it. ESPN does really suck and not in name only!
I have a subscription as well – used it twice. Filter system is a jumble. I once got that msg – turns out it was for a future game.
Kind of funny in the WBB game as they were down 46-37 in the 4th and I’m talking to a buddy of mine on the phone saying how the Beavs suck…they immediately go on 27-11 run and win 74-57.
64-57
Honestly he wasn’t wrong at that point of the game, the ladies looked like shit. The Don’s zone had the Beavs baffled and our bigs were nowhere to be seen. Surprising how close the game was considering how poorly the ladies were playing.
Wife said Rees looked like she had the pick your adventure crud that’s rolling through town, just lethargic. First ladies game I’ve been able to attend this year, Heide looks like she’s dropped 2 stone and she moved more easily down the floor but still refuses to assert her size on these smaller defenders. Both ladies were continually mauled in the post without a whistle. Just infuriating.
The refs were worse than pac refs, how is that possible? The 4th quarter over and back call which in real time wasn’t, and on replay REALLY wasn’t? Holy balls.
Will be out of town for the Portland game if anyone wants a pair of tickets
MBB is sucking on the road as usual down 57-46 with about 10 minutes left. They’ve had a couple of runs to get close, but the defense is suspect again like against LMU.
Well, I should post a negative comment more often. Beavs on a run now leads 69-67 with five minutes left.
Fighting Stinkles fall behind by 12, come back to tie at halftime. Promptly fall behind by 12 again and have come back to tie again.
Can they finish?
is getting the beavers to overtime on the road a “win” for Tinks ?
beavs not doing themselves a lot of favors but also getting screwed on foul calls. santa clara has double the ft.
Lol. Lose in the most beaver way
And so it begins. Tinkle benches Lelevicious after 1/8 shooting but loses on offensive rebounds. Lelevicious is the one active big guy who does the garbage stuff even if he isn’t scoring.
They win if Tinkle knew what he was doing. Typical…
I’m noticing that the Beavs have zero rim protection this season. Getting killed inside. What an unbelievable way to lose a game!
No, they don’t. Only reason they were even in it and went to OT was Santa Clara’s abysmal FT shooting. They make those, they’d have won by double digits
beavs find every absolutely unbelievable way to lose a game. up 4 down the stretch but foul on a 3 pointer, can’t get a rebound off the miss and allow a game winning tip in. they’re comical.
How to lose a game in 17 seconds. A tragic comedy by Stinkle time
Fighting Stinkles better get their shit together and beat a bad Pacific team on Saturday. With Gonzaga and at San Francisco on the schedule next weekend this team is staring down a losing streak. They aren’t winning either of those games.
RE Georgia QB Beck entering the portal:
“All kinds of fan bases and coaches out here getting hustled,” said former Georgia offensive lineman Matt Stinchcomb.”
Ha!
Miami said ok
Long read so skip if not interested in WSU coaching and scheme change. Lots going on there. Goodbye “Air Raid”, hello run-dominated offense. Beavs SHOULD win both games in 2025 with this much transition(?).
PULLMAN – Jimmy Rogers may be new to Washington State, introduced as the Cougars’ next head coach on Thursday, but he realizes the way things look. By the time his news conference wrapped up, he had brought over 15 of his players from South Dakota State, many of whom helped him win an FCS national title last fall.
Some are seasoned veterans: defensive lineman Max Baloun, linebacker Caleb Francl, safeties Cale Reeder and Matthew Durrance. Others are not so much: edge rusher Fernando Lecuona, linebacker Carsten Reynolds, offensive lineman Nick Bakken, all freshmen.
All of them earned their spots at SDSU with Rogers, who won an FCS title in 2022 as defensive coordinator and in 2023 as head coach. But can his former Jackrabbits keep up with FBS competition?
Rogers gave that question a resounding “yes” by shedding some light on his players’ recruitment. Running back Angel Johnson, one of three RBs to transfer from SDSU to WSU, had an offer from Tennessee. That kind of trend applies to many of the players he’s brought over, Rogers said.
“They’re getting recruited by Power Five schools, and so are these guys that joined the team,” Rogers said. “So if they can play at Ole Miss, can they play here? Well, we’re gonna find out, because we’re gonna get the opportunity to play Ole Miss. That’s happened.
“I can go down the list about the amount of schools that have been recruiting some of the players that are now on this roster. They came here because of the choice of being with a bunch of coaches that they love and being mentored by them.”
Several of the former Jackrabbits turned Cougs are filling real needs. Cornerback Colby Humphrey, who spent three years at FCS Northern Arizona before transferring to SDSU for the 2024 campaign, joins a WSU cornerback corps that lost both starters to the transfer portal, Ethan O’Connor (Miami) and Stephen Hall (Missouri). Freshman Jaylon Edmond, who was expected to challenge for a starting spot next fall, is off to Wake Forest with former coach Jake Dickert.
Same goes for Baloun and Francl, who figure to play instrumental roles in plugging holes at their positions. Baloun is joining a WSU defensive lineman room that lost its top three players from last season: David Gusta transferred to Kentucky, Ansel Din-Mbuh to TCU and Khalil Laufau to Houston. Even the Coug expected to enjoy a bigger role next year, rising junior Bryson Lamb, only played around 20 snaps per game in the regular season.
Francl is hopping into a WSU linebacker corps without both starters – Buddah Al-Uqdah is taking his talents to Washington and Kyle Thornton exhausted his eligibility – and while 2024 backups Keith Brown and Parker McKenna are set to return, Francl can offer a level of experience to enhance the room. Francl has more than 1,000 snaps of college football under his belt, and Reeder has nearly 2,000 .
But all of those plays came at South Dakota State, an FCS powerhouse, but an FCS school all the same. How will they fare at WSU, whose 2025 schedule features the likes of Ole Miss, Washington, Virginia and two tilts with Pac-12 holdover Oregon State?
In a roundabout way, Rogers vouched for his guys by pointing out the NIL offers they have often fielded from the competition. The eight players South Dakota State sent to the NFL after the 2023 season, Rogers said, all had six-figure offers from other schools. His quarterback, Mark Gronowski, saw dollar signs in the seven figures. In other words, Rogers said, it isn’t just the Jackrabbits who saw potential in their guys.
“So how do you do it? You invest in them, you show them you love them,” Rogers said. “But you gotta recruit them. And I believe in recruiting high school players and developing them along the way. I think there’s a certain way to do it, as far as maybe taking a player that didn’t have all the opportunities to play at the highest-up level, and you were that opportunity because you believe in his talent. There’s enough players out there that still want this for what it is, which is an experience of a lifetime, with substance behind it, and those that care about them.”
Rogers added that he expects a good amount of his staff to be announced Friday. Known members include offensive coordinator Danny Freund, defensive coordinator Jesse Bobbit, offensive line coach Taylor Lucas, running backs coach Robbie Rouse, assistant offensive line coach Mike Iupati and defensive line coach Everette Thompson.
A glimpse at what the Cougars’ new offense and defense might look like
A defensive-minded coach, Rogers’ defense might not look too different from what recent WSU teams ran. Rogers will run a 4-2-5 or 4-3 scheme, he said, which could be similar to the Cougs’ 4-2-5 look the last two seasons.
Another similarity: The Cougars will rotate defensive linemen in bunches, like hockey substitutions, which the 2023 and 2024 WSU teams did.
“As soon as we end up getting the right guys in the door that we feel like can execute,” Rogers said. “It allows us to stay fresh. It allows us to continue to play with multiple people on the field and create a depth that will last throughout the course of the season.”
WSU’s new offense might be the side of the ball that looks most different. New WSU offensive coordinator Danny Freund wasn’t always calling plays last year at SDSU, but the Jackrabbits leaned heavily on the run, averaging 236 rushing yards (No. 3 nationally) and 198 passing yards (No. 72) per contest. The approach seems to be backed by the players Rogers has brought over, including three SDSU running backs: Johnson, Kirby Vorhees and Maxwell Woods.
It likely spells the end of what remained of the Air Raid era at WSU. In its place appears to be a run-centric approach, using more tight ends and juicing up the offensive line.
“Offensively, we will use the whole 52 yards of width on the field,” Rogers said, “and really stretch you out and line up in splits, and motion to really kinda tell what you’re in defensively. And then attack you vertically and also be able to run the football. I believe in running the football, and I believe in getting one-on-one opportunities for your best players to have big plays.”
To convince portal players to stay, new coach Rogers imbues confidence
Since taking the job on Dec. 28, Rogers almost lost the biggest fish of all. Quarterback Zevi Eckhaus, who was in attendance for Thursday’s news conference, entered the transfer portal on Dec. 30. He withdrew his name two days later.
Eckhaus has joined nine teammates in doing so, including Lamb, tight end Trey Leckner, wide receivers Josh Meredith and Tre Shackelford, cornerback Kamani Jackson, linebacker Hudson Cedarland, safety Gage Jones and walk-ons Aslan Fraser and Michael Hughes.
That Rogers retained several players on that list – particularly Meredith, Shackelford, Jackson and Leckner – amounts to a crucial development. Meredith started eight of 13 games last season. Shackelford played in 10. Jackson was held in high regard by the previous coaching staff, and Leckner’s versatility as a pass-catcher and blocker freed him up to play 11, including two starts, portending a promising future.
So how did Rogers convince them to stay?
“Just give me an opportunity to give us an opportunity to be a part of your life, and allow us to embrace your goals and your aspirations,” Rogers said he told the players. “It’s honestly why we all got into coaching, is to push somebody else’s dreams and aspirations ahead of our own and make their dreams ours. And I think that’s maybe the most rewarding thing that a coach can be a part of, is just watching somebody live out their own dreams.”
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/jan/09/in-introductory-news-conference-wsus-jimmy-rogers-/
Coach Stinkle is closing in on a most glorious achievement. He is 22-91 on the road, and by the end of the season it might end up 22-98 by my count, two losses away from 100 road losses. What a BEAST!
What’s interesting is that he’s apparently such a nice guy that the TV coverage is always super positive. The talking heads babble about the Elite 8 run and the seasons over .500 and completely ignore two of the worst seasons in Beav MBB history (5-27 and 3-28) as if Tinks wasn’t responsible for those. He has the wins he does simply because of longevity.
Dude has a .340 winning percentage in conference games.
In 10 years he’s gone to the ncaa tournament twice. One of those it took a miraculous conference tournament run to get in.
He also has 2 of the worst seasons in school history (5-27 and 3-28). Both of those seasons were the following after an ncaa tournament berth. How the fuck do you do that???
Anywhere else that gets you fired
And GP-2 fell into his lap (Craig Robinson recruit). At one point he had 4 ESPN Top 100 recruits on his roster and could barely get above .500.
I knew better than to have hope. Even with the successful start to the season, I knew what to expect, so I watch. Whatever coaching they had prior to OSU was superior. Now we get to see the regression. He’s like an anti-coach. Players regress under him and then grow under other coaching.
I can’t believe Tinkle is still a thing. Just shows our standards.
Sadly with the collapse of the Pac 12 we have no money to buy him out with an uncertain future. Hopefully with a new media deal, resolved conference and NCAA Lawsuit settled we can let his contract expire and move on.
Haha! I think it shows a shitty administration. Have one successful season and get rewarded with a lifetime contract. No normal AD would do that, I feel Tinkle is pretty good at mucking it up with the administration. So we again were a victim of nepotism. He’s a nice guy, his team performance doesn’t matter.
He’s the Mike Riley of basketball, except he actually accomplished more than Riley ever did.
There’s a well known phenomenon in world soccer where players that have outstanding performances at major tournaments like the World Cup get overpaid because teams overvalue short-term tournament performance. As wonderful as the Elite 8 run was, that’s a situation where you need to take a more measured approach to the extension. You have to reward him somehow, otherwise no one will want to come work for you after the incumbent leaves, but you don’t want to go crazy over one nice winning streak.
Barnes seems like he’s close to retirement, but hopefully someone in the AD learned the lesson here.
I have a hard time understanding how you came to the conclusion that 1 Elite 8 run from a fairly bad team overall is better than Riley who had OSU football as a competitive program pretty consistently. And that isn’t to say Riley was amazing but he was a far more successful coach at OSU than Tinkle has been.
What’s the football equivalent of a conference tournament championship and Elite 8 run?
Whatever it is, Riley never accomplished it. That’s my point.
I don’t know if I agree. It is hard to compare the sports but if we assumed college football had a similarly sized playoff:
20% of NCAA basketball teams make the playoffs so that would mean a playoff of roughly 24 teams would make college football equivalent.
Using BCS rankings Oregon State would have made that bracket in 2006 (24), 2008 (24), and 2012 (15). They also would have been on the bubble in 2007.
I’m not here saying Riley is amazing but Oregon State football was far more respected nationally under Riley than Oregon State basketball is under Tinkle.
Canzano reporting OSU paid Maalik Murphy $1.5M in NIL to come here. Were competing with Kentucky (and Auburn at one point) Gonna be alot of pressure on this kid to perform well. But have to admit he’s already provided a boost to recruiting, so there’s some value in that
Any substance in the rest of that paywall article?
I dont have a sub anymore
I can’t remember but did they bring the NIL collective in house?
High level summary. OSU had made a commitment to be more aggressive in the NIL market. Bray seems happy with the results. The cash the collective has is a mix of stuff from major donors and average fans. No indication that any one person stepped up and made a big donation.
Canzano insinuates but doesn’t confirm that NIL deals were in the $250k range for each of the tight ends. Canzano doesn’t name his source for the figure he says the QB got but says he got stonewalled by Bray and the collective. He does have quotes from some unnamed SeC sources saying they were surprised OSU got him, they thought he was a lock for Kentucky or Auburn who made him 7 figure offers. Canzano also said while the QB likes Corvallis and has relationships with the coaching staff, it likely came down to $.
So Canzano is gossiping… : )
Probably someone from murphy’s camp.
I doubt kentucky or auburn would want to talk about OSU outspending them
I hear the announcers at Duke’s bowl game wanted to talk about it.
I’d be interested to know what OSU will be paying for NIL next year.
BSU paid $2M last year
tOSU coach said they paid in the $20M plus range last year
Oregon is rumored to be between 22M-25M last year
Sound like we’re at $2M for just 3 players next year. Crazy what it takes to keep up.
FWIW Dickert said we spent way more than WSU and they offered Mateer an unprecedented $1M to stay.
Reading between the lines, I assume all the guys posting “I’m back” messages got paid. If we’re paying other teams’ backup TE’s $250k how much did we pay our own starters?
It’s all so tiresome
I have read in a couple of places that if you want a Top 25 level team you need to have at least $5 Million / YR. If we spent $2 Million on 1 QB and 2TE sounds like we are serious and want to be a player at a top 25 level.
We’re spending the money this year, but how long can we sustain that? I doubt we have enough donors who are committing that much money every year for the foreseeable future. It feels like it’s going to make college sports a lot more cyclical. A lot of teams may have to have some down years while they build up their bank accounts, then decide to open up the vault to make a playoff run. But of course during those down years, the top teams we continue to pay out more and more, so we’ll continue to see the usual suspects in the CFP with an occasional surprise by a team who broke the bank to get there.
Am I the only one that finds the NFL’s decision to move the Rams game to State Farm Stadium to be ridiculously tone deaf? State Farm drops fire insurance so thousands of LA residents will lose their homes and the NFL rewards State Farm with playoff exposure?
Vegas is right there NFL.
no, State Farm wasn’t allowed to charge homeowners in relation to the risk. It’s the State of California’s regulations that caused State Farm to non-renew people.
Most CA fires start on federal land. CA regular are irrelevant to said land. Try again.
And now explain why FL has the same insurance problem?
It’s deeper than that.
Climate change has made these events unpredictable. We should be in landslide season in SoCal. Fire season isn’t now.
Hurricanes will follow suit, which is why people are starting to not be able to afford insurance in Gulf states. California “regulations” were simply that the insurance companies couldn’t raise premiums as much as they wanted, so they did the same thing they did last time it happened, and they left the state.
It’s all irrelevant to the issue at hand, which is just containing and putting the fires out, then dealing with the humanitarian side–which is where the insurance companies can shine or be lousy business partners… or more likely something in between.
Oh I know, no insurance company will insure the west coast for fires within a few years.
I just find people that simp for insurance companies amusing.
Beavers HC Trent Bray tells Canzano that landing Murphy was about more than signing a QB. “The perception of us being the little brother who isn’t on the national, big-time stage has to stop. The guys we’ve been able to pull in prove we’re a national player. We deserve to be at the table. We’re going to be at the table.”
a little more from clownzo
Then quit keeping the term alive by using it and get back on the stage.
And don’t just wilt @ UO like you did v. UO this year. Hit them in the mouth and expect to get hit back and respond. Other opportunities: @ Texas Tech…
I think he must be talking more about the Pac12 deserving to be at the table, not OSU comparing itself to UofO.
The Pac12 desperately wants to show they are not a “Group of X” conference and that they deserve equal footing when it comes to money doled out to the Autonomous conferences.
Problem is, we dont have the ability to influence those financial decisions and nobody is going to advocate for us. Those in power won’t give it up willingly.
If the now backup Texas fg kicker has any eligibility left he can join the Beavs next year. Do we have anyone ready to step in?
I am going to vomit after seeing that Nike ad. No wonder their stock is tanking.
What is the ad?
It looks like Beck has an NIL deal with Miami Hurricanes. How soon until Ewers cashes in with the Ducks on a 1 year deal?
5, 4, 3, ….
$4.5M from what I’ve read but they also have Dante Moore at $1.25M so I would think Moore would jettison the Schmucks for another team of Ewers comes to play for the Evil Empire.
Dante Moore is supposed to be a “Heisman Finalist” next year, why bring in anyone else…?!?
Eugene sucks a fat dick compared to Austin so it better be for the $$$
I’d much rather live here.
20 years ago, Austin was still pretty cool. I hear the Hill Country has been carved up in the name of progress, making it look more like New Jersey than what it was. And their infrastructure is poorly suited to the increasing population.
Also, softball sized hail gets old really fast… like about 15 seconds after you see the first one land and think, “Wow! Cool! Look how big that thing is.”
Ewers was not very impressive against a defense like Ohio State. I hope he goes to the Ducks. Should ensure no Natty for another year.
Jack Sawyer is goddamned impressive.
And if Beavs are going to start spending NIL, buy OL, DL, CBs, and the rest will follow…
That D is loaded with in-state guys. That’s a rarity in today’s game.
And most of them have been there for 4+ years.
It’s pretty cool to see Bray talking about stopping the little brother mentality. I think he’s the first HC to talk about it that way.
Good to see Waverly commit on TV at the Navy All American game…. Good chance for him to put a plug in for the program too…
If he really did run a 10.6 100m he needs to be playing WR, not TE. That roughly translates to a 40 time in the 4.4ish range.
It’s really interesting to see the TE numbers we’re bringing in. We must be moving the offense to a much heavier look; that’s really the only explanation I can think of. IF that’s the case, it’s good to see them adapting, having a vision, and trying to execute on it.
Heck seemed to confirm we’ll be playing him in the slot some. Nice.
I am not against this form of offense.
Not one bit.
I wonder if all the big time transfers will convince Tia to come to OSU, especially with Cal picking up that 5-star frosh transfer from Nike.
I believe Tia has already signed NLI just waiting to announce ala Waverly.
Who did T’ia sign an NIL deal with? The Beavs?
Maybe National Letter of Intent? NLI
I thought “NIL” at first too….so much more common now.
Letters of Intent are out now. They do financial aid agreements due to NIL
https://x.com/TerrillPetersen/status/1878174666101342541
Is this really true about the Rose Bowl?
If so…lol
It’s actually more. He’s just showing conference payouts for the conferences, not all the extra payouts the CFP is making to conferences and individual schools in all the conferences. So everyone on that list will get a couple million more (except Boise), and the Pac 12 gets another $17-20m.
And we’ll get the same next year.
We’ll do the conservative thing and use it to rebuild the conference. It’s how we roll.
The Rose Bowl payout is already included in the $255M the Beavs and COUGS won in the court case according to media reports FWIW.
Yeah.
It’s just spread over our two years in limbo, plus another four years of hoops units.
It’s simply a very large amount of money. And then there’s Pac 12 Enterprises, on top of it all.
With all that opportunity, it would be hard to fail on a conference level. Run conservatively, it will return dividends for decades.
Agreed. The key outstanding issue is a solid media rights agreement and hopefully it nets ~$15-16M. I’d like us to get into the Texas market by adding Texas State, or Memphis…..
RE Waverly, pretty cool to see him leave the UW and ND hats on the table…
“Waverly, who had nearly two dozen offers, had Oregon State, Notre Dame and Washington as his finalists. Waverly is listed as an athlete, who could play at receiver or bulk up and play tight end.
The 6-foot-4, 225-pound Waverly, who attends Kamiak High in Mulikteo, Wash., has already signed and becomes part of the Beavers’ 2025 recruiting class.”
Hope he goes WR w that speed and size, Geezus…would be fun to see him stiff arm some CBs…ha!
What’s the over/under on the 1-star “Beaver Deduction” from the recruiting services that will take Wavery down to a 3-star rating?
It already happened if you read most of the articles.
MBB looks like they’ll finally get a road win
They better. Pacific is fuckin terrible
UNLV signed a transfer portal QB tonight, Alex Orji.
Has to go on the all-name team list
91-52 final
Beavs set a record for FT% in a game. Think they only missed one
Error 91-55. Beavs went 31/32 at the FT line
KHJ has resigned. Bray may take of DC duties.
This is unfortunate. Can’t say that I know if he was a good play caller and scheme guy based off 1 year but he’s supposedly a great recruiter which definitely hurts. Hope Bray doesn’t stretch himself too thin if he does the DC gig too
Our defensive recruiting hasn’t been great, though.
Also, I feel like this doesn’t bode well for the defense. Like a CEO quitting because he knows things are getting worse.
There has been talk in the past on this site and others that Riley and Smith and other OSU coaches held onto assistants and friends when they weren’t working out. Maybe this was Bray taking quick action when he saw stuff he didn’t like and letting a friend save face and resign instead of being fired.
Wasn’t impressed at all with KHJ’s defensive scheme or play calling. Very passive. Little to zero blitzes, and my favorite was having the DB’s 5 – 10 yards off the line of scrimmage!
Reminded me of a Banker led Swiss cheese D
I mean Banker had some poor defenses but he also had a couple top 25 defenses. So you have to give him some credit.
Banker, like Riley, gets too much criticism. The game passed him by as a DC, but he was really good for several years.
except against mobile QB’s. Or first time starting QB’s
I’ll never forget the dumb ass look on his face after USC nailed a hail mary pass for a TD at the end of the first half.
Fuck Mark Banker
KHJ didn’t have the personnel to run zone. If you don’t have the personnel to run a scheme, change the scheme, which he didn’t really do. Glad to see him go.
Timing suggests that recruiting is probably wrapped up. Smart move by Bray to keep him on until recruiting was done? Or maybe KHJ was doing us a favor?
Doesn’t sound like it was a football or performance based decision in any way, but just KHJ choosing to step down for his own personal reasons.
Good, guy half assed it
We’ve heard rumors of KHJ leaving for a while, and my feeling is Bray was giving him a chance to find a place to land. Didn’t happen, so at some point my bet is he was told to resign to let the team move on. I wasn’t a fan of his play calling or in-game adjustments, and I think all the injuries on defense are suspicious to say the very least. Part of a coach’s responsibility is to protect his players. We kept hearing about players “flying around” in practice–then on game days we get an unforgivably cautious defense . . . because of injuries. Good that Bray, while giving his buds a chance, is willing to cut the line when necessary.
I’m not sure if it’s bad or not. He had a lot of injuries to navigate for sure.
Regarding his recruiting prowess, he came back from the NFL about wasn’t like he had a bunch if immediate connections so we may not know.
Bray needs to find a guy from a lower level that knows how to use less talent in better schemes, like NDSU DC.
Or Perhaps use the Harbaugh connection and get an assistant DC from a Big10 school?
KJH never really set right to me anyway because he had been with the ducks for several years with some sketchy staffs. I’m kind of glad he is moving on and Bray didn’t have to fire him.
Jimmy Lake was fired by the Falcons yesterday. go get him.
No. 9 Oregon State put on a show in its first 2025 home gymnastics meet Saturday, scoring 196.40 points to easily beat Brigham Young at Gill Coliseum.
Senior Jade Carey, performing in a home meet for the first time since winning two Olympic gold medals last summer, scored 39.725 in all-around. Carey had scores of 9.95 on bars and floor, 9.925 on beam and 9.90 on vault.”
Photo of Carry hoisting the chainsaw….world champion having fun in college…pretty cool.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/oregon-state-jade-carey-open-home-gymnastics-schedule-with-dominant-performance-photos.html
My want list for DC:
1. Jay Harbaugh
2. Glen Caruso
That’s it.
Don Brown
Kyle Sorensen
Lou Anorumo
Both young guys who rose to NFL DCs and got fired. Get them for a year or 2 to remake their reputation…?
100% Don Brown. Break the bank to get him. He loves blitzing and that’s Bray’s style.
He’s good enough of a coordinator to get us to at least 6 wins every year.
I loved Don Brown at Michigan. Just not sure how much of the performance was Michigan-level talent versus scheme
I loved Don Brown at Michigan. Just not sure how much of the performance was Michigan-level talent versus scheme
Seeing how he put together a top 10 defense at Boston College, I would say much of it was scheme. He also upgraded Arizona’s defense from #114 nationally to #57 nationally in one season.
I keep seeing stuff about Mick Cronin continually losing his shit over UCLA’s mediocre performance in the B10. I wonder how Bilodeau is holding up. Hopefully, the money makes it worth it.
Cronin isn’t happy about Big10 refs either lol. Surprised by some Midwest home cookin against the might Bruins? Cmon Mick, you used to be at Xavier and faced it all the time. He probably has a few old enemies among the referee fraternity.
Cronin is a crybaby. You made your bed. Lay in it lil bitch
I am enjoying seeing UCLA and USC, the leaders of the demise of the Pac-12, struggle in the Big10. I’m sure the money IS great. But both schools have become like Nebraska – yeah, used to be good, national brand – whatever happened to ’em?
As UCLA and USC continue to languish, it will leave a void on the west coast and a god chance for the new PAC12 teams to flourish with west coast talent. Ducks want a national recruiting base and have already shown they aren’t as interested in building their program with west coast kids.
Bray and staff must begin to make efforts and gain traction towards the west coast as a recruiting strategy by landing some big name west coast guys.
Agree. Players will see those programs are unlikely to be competitive in the B10, that the new PAC allows for regional travel, and still offers a stage to showcase their talent for the next level.
NIL will be the challenge and require prioritization…I tend to think if you pay and recruit both lines and CBs, 3* talent around them can be successful.
Looking at the “D.C. Hot Board” article Blitz put out earlier today. They list 3 potential candidates at the top.
Trent Bray
Brady Hoke
Dante Williams
I’m trying to understand how any of those 3 even exist on the list?
Bray? Current HC decides to also take over DC duties and not hire a defensive coordinator at all?
Not happening. Guys has his hands full enough as it is trying to run a team.
Hoke? 66 year old retired HC, most recently coached SDSU. No thanks. We’ve seen his body of work. Remember when he was DC at Oregon and how terrible their defense was? The last time oregon had a losing season and the team that made Gary Andersen look like a capable coach in the Civil War. I’ll pass.
Dante Williams. Current Georgia Safeties coach, making $800k+. Not sure what we would pay a DC, but is it enough? And did we not learn our lesson with having another inexperienced Safeties coach take over DC duties last year?
Of the 3, at least Moore would be useful in recruiting, but really?
I really hope that hot board is just click bait and nothing more
Blitz is waiting for angrybeavs readers to post their reasonable lists and then blitz can. update theirs.
No thanks to Hoke, he would be a disaster.
Nobody is coming to OSU from Georgia.
Bray will not have time to be DC.
Mama Machado is just doing some very lazy articles to generate arguments ands comments…clickbait in other words.
Jimmy Lake may be the best option.
I’d be fine with Lake
same. he was at his best when he was DC for UW under Peterson. Great recruiter too.
“I’m trying to understand how any of those 3 even exist on the list?
…
I really hope that hot board is just click bait and nothing more”
Did you click?
There’s your answer.
Some more realistic names?
A.J. Cooper, LB coach and run game coordinator for Arizona State. Was at Washington State, Wyoming, and NDSU before that.
Kendrick Van Ackeren – was DC at Arkansas Tech U (DII) for two seasons before their head coach retired in December. Was at OSU for three seasons where he served as a graduate assistant, a defensive analyst, assistant director of recruiting and the interim outside linebackers coach.
Eggers says KHJ didn’t seem fully invested going into this past season. I guess that would explain a lot, but how did we get ourselves into that position in the first place?
Bray had to assemble a staff pretty quickly last year and KHJ needed a job.
Hopefully this resignation is a sign that Bray already has someone lined up
Kerry Eggers has a follow up message today:
“I regret this off-the-cuff appraisal of Keith’s dedication to his job at Oregon State. College football coaches put their heart and soul into what they’re doing. Keith went through some personal issues during the past season that I wasn’t aware of. I was wrong to make such an appraisal. I’ve known Keith since his playing days and respect him as a person He plans to take some time off coaching now to be with family and ponder the future. I wish him the best.”
Maybe he had some things happening about the same time all of the injuries piled up and it began to feel like a no win situation for him. No hard feelings if it was family circumstances on top of challenging roster stuff.
Wish him well and find the next great DC for OSU.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/keith-heyward-on-resigning-as-oregon-state-defensive-coordinator-im-going-to-take-time-to-center-myself.html
Heyward’s father, Keith, died shortly before the start of Oregon State’s 2024 football season. His mother, Belinda, was in a hospital for two weeks during the season. Heyward has younger brothers who are in high school and college.
Heyward was unable to see either parent while he was coaching football this fall. The totality hit Heyward once OSU’s season ended. Heyward recently decided that he needed a change.
“I felt like this is the best time for me to take a step back and take care of some personal things with my family and make sure I’m good, and they’re all good,” Heyward said. “I’ve been grinding in this business for 20 years. I’ve been focused on ball and college. It doesn’t allow you to take time for your family. So, I’m going to just take time to center myself and take care of my family.”
Wow that sucks. He made the right call for sure.
I heard it was something personal, and death of a parent was mentioned.
Get your head straight first. I can see this job doing a number on the psyche, even without all that family stress.
How about Robert Selah for DC? Didn’t work out as Jets HC but was a great DC…
Kidding!
There are lots of good options out there. If we can pony up the money for a QB, I’m confident we can land a good one.
I think the main problem Bray will run into is most DCs will want to bring in their own staff to work with, but in this scenario we already have a staff in place and are just swapping out a DC to run that group. That is the main reason why I could see Bray thinking he should take over the DC role rather than swap in a new one. Plus it would keep the seat warm for Heyward if/when he wants to come back.
Yeah, I think all signs point to Bray taking over the bulk of DC duties and brining in some other senior guys (Hoke etc) to support in analyst/AHC roles. But I imagine they are exploring all options.
Even with the youth/injuries, the Defense under-performaned from the expectations set from the previous Bray led D’s. So the idea of him coordinating the D is exciting, but I worry about it spreading him too thin that some of the HC duties suffer and it ends up a net-loss.
There are quite a few examples of successful HC’s retaining their DC role, but he needs to find the right guys with the right relationships to come in to support to pull it off.
Bray can absolutely function as a DC with the right support. It’s all about delegating appropriately.
Bringing in Hoke as an advisor would be great. He’s been a successful HC and knows how to run a program. Bray’s experience is on the DC side, not the HC side, so you want someone that can complement him with HC experience. Not really sure if there’s a Bray connection to Hoke or not, though.
Serious question, what examples are there of a team with no DC and the HC carries those responsibilities? Seems odd to me and I’m not sure if I’ve seen it.
According to the talking heads, there are “offensive coaches” like Sark who like to call their own offense, and there are “defensive coaches” like Dave Aranda who may or may not be calling defensive schemes. I doubt that many head coaches at the college level are running the team as a CEO and also a hands-on DC. Seems like a stretch to think a 2nd year coach should be doing both without some drop in overall team results.
I would think with:
Bray as HC, Lake as DC, a seasoned secondary with pretty good depth, and a HEALTHY cast of Collins, Johnson, Hickle, Howard, and Pome’e on the DL, the defense would pleasantly surprise and be fun to watch.
Jim Leonhard doesn’t have a job right now, afaik.
I think he’s working in the NFL
With the Broncos.
He’s still good at DC. It would be a hire we expect to need to replace in two or three years, due to his success. That kind of coaching is recognized by NFL GMs, as well, if the NFL is where he wants to eventually lead a team.
But would it be enough of a stepping stone compared to continuing with Sean Payton for that same period? He can demand a decent price at this level, and we have decent money to spend.
I still like the thought of Harbaugh doing the stepping up, though. He seems to have hitched his wagon to McDonald. So who knows?
Hoke would be disappointing. If we want oldsters, his father and Rocky Long would be better short term choices.
If Bray is going to seek out an old successful coach to help him, I d rather he reach out to Pete Carroll or Dennis Erickson. Brady Hole isn’t high on any list of former successful head coaches in my mind. Swing for the fences and reach out to Carroll. Old PAC12, PNW guy who has no need for a big bankroll and maybe would run the defense too. How cool would that be?
What’s Craig Bray up to these days?
I mean, if we’re talking old guys with experience un that role, he fits and I know Bray has his number
Pete is actively interviewing for Head jobs in the NFL, he is not coming to OSU or any college as a DC. Zero percent chance of that happening.
Sure Pete Carroll is a long shot and very unlikely. I’m just responding to lazy journalism to throw out a washed up retread like Hoke as if it was a reasonable idea. Who cares if Hoke has OSU ties at this point.
Typical OSU/Machado lazy.
At least find an intriguingly successful name to float for clickbait.
I’ll predict they throw out Riley’s name soon since he coached the secondary at USC in the 90s.
I like trying to get a guy who was castoff from the NFL or an FCS defensive savant. I’m not sure who it might be.
Another coaching change due to personal reasons:
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/oregon-state-mens-soccer-coach-greg-dalby-resigns-takes-job-at-air-force.html
NIL announcements going out on Twitter. Apparently Mullix is a NIL guy… kinda surprised we’d pay the lowest rated guy on Western Carolina’s defense. DL market is rough…
Is the Thursday mens basketball game vs Gonzaga on any TV channels or platforms other than ESPN+?
I’m seeing CBS Sports Networks actually
Kind of surprising list of new NIL moneymakers:
Foster
Allah
Caufield (ANOTHER TE move)
Patterson
Redicks
Also Noga
I guess this is connected to Bray saying “everyone who started for us was approached by someone else.”
also Ayers
Saw a baseball player too. Kellan Oakes who signed here after playing at Linn Benton CC
https://x.com/KellanOakes/status/1680411191557124096?t=c_shGhUKZYt4p7lBxx_nEQ&s=19
I can only imagine the disruption this causes in the locker room. Some guys getting paid while others are not. Some players have to know they are better than the ones that are making money. This is a recipe for disaster. There is no way this can work long term.
If Dallas or Las Vegas hire Deion Sanders after a 2 year charade of hype at Colorado, it proves that NFL teams are not intent on winning but just selling a product. Deion couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag. Such a fraud and yet he is pushed upon us as if he is this generation’s Bear Bryant.
Not all NFL teams. Most make pretty conservative hires or gamble on a young rising NFL guy.
I’ve got a running bet with a friend who is a diehard cowboys fan. I floated the idea of primetime becoming the Dallas coach back in early November. He is not a fan of that idea. Man that would be a laughable shitshow, but the rumor has legs!
It’s gonna happen. Jerry Jones is dumb enough
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43403878/source-jerry-jones-talks-deion-sanders-cowboys-job
Unfortunately, so is Mark Davis
Yeah… not sure why anyone thinks these people know how to sell anything.
Jerry Jones got lucky with the Herschel Walker trade, then proceeded to suck for 30 years. Mark Davis has never risen above late-stage Al Davis, which was just basically what Jerry has become.
That was when he let Jimmy Johnson manage the team and roster, correct? After Johnson left, Jones hired Switzer, got more involved in roster management, and the results are obvious as you state.
I think the Knight/UO arrangement is similarly unhealthy, but has produced better results in terms of consistent winning. Knight and the collective probably give adequate deference to coaches on personnel decisions (?).
Some “…just selling a product.” Raiders management sucks….a number of teams genuinely want to win.
if (ha!) I were an NFL prospect, I wouldn’t sign with Raiders, Jets, Jags, Cowboys….Browns….some teams just can’t get out of their own way…force a trade, they still get value they’ll mismanage….
Any high round prospects can now maximize their NIL and wait it out if drafted by chronically mismanaged franchises..
Gevani McCoy to Texas State….
He’ll do well there. We mismanaged him badly.
We had a VB player added to the NIL payroll…Hawaii transfer who was not all-conference in the Big West.
I know very little about VB, but this is an interesting move.
Bray is going to assume the DC responsibilities. I know there’s HCs out there that wear 2 hats that way, but I hope it’s not too much for a new HC like Bray to handle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/oregon-state-head-coach-trent-bray-to-take-over-as-beavers-defensive-coordinator.html
“The defensive coaching staff will have a new look in 2025 as well. New to the assistant coaching staff is Kharyee Marshall, who moves from a quality control analyst to outside linebackers coach. AJ Cooper is moving from inside linebackers to the secondary, joining Rod Chance. Bray and the analyst he plans to hire will coach inside linebackers. Isaisa Tuiaki remains as defensive line coach.”
Most assume Hoke as AHC/Analyst but it would be really funny if it was Riley or Banker or both.
Daschel has a piece on this topic and mentioned Bray is about a week away from hiring an analyst with HC and LB experience to help tag team MLB/HC/DC duties.
Says he wants to get his defensive system “back on track”.
This is probably why Hoke is being floated out there. He’s an analyst with HC and LB coaching experience.
Daschel says he’s interviewing a couple candidates, but to me that seems like due diligence and Hoke is probably already on board.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/oregon-state-head-coach-trent-bray-to-take-over-as-beavers-defensive-coordinator.html
That kind of feels like a let-down if he takes DC duties really serious but begins to fail as HC. I don’t see it as a good thing. Any momentum form the offensive side is now diminished by the defense being a duel stress for Bray.
This is super dumb.
You should contact Bray and let him know this his decision is super dumb. I’m just guessing but I think he would probably take any recommendations you have and execute those accordingly. Lol
You think so? I’m not sure if he’d listen to a random fan giving their opinion in the comment section of a fan website. But if you think I should reach out, I’ll give it a shot. Thanks, ESPNsucks.
How’d you go about contacting ESPN to let them know that they suck? Did they take your recommendations and execute accordingly? Lol
I’m pretty sure ESPN knows they suck. But it’s what makes them money, so they don’t care.
It’s fine if he wants to be HC and DC. Run the ship, because that’s what he’s paid to do. If it works, move ahead. If it’s too much to handle, correct again.
If this is him hiring an XO, fine. But it needs to be clear there’s only one CO, at all times.
Since KHJ was making ,$750k per year, I’m guessing this was probably a budget related decision. The beavers have a nice cash reserve due to the court case,bober 4 years, they can show a cost reduction of roughly $3M so that’s a good thing too.
Who, who are these coaches that where two hats? I’ve never heard of a HC also being the offensive or defensive coordinator. This is a weird move and less than ideal, in my opinion.
Less than ideal, agreed. Several good coaches have successfully been HC and ST. I think that had more to do with the development of personnel, since ST is where the youngsters get a chance to show out.
If he can pull off DC, it will be an interesting model. We do see OC-minded HCs who try and manage the O. That hasn’t worked out too well, in most cases. That’s why this seems less ideal.
But I’m for letting him try now. If he can’t handle it, I’d rather it happens next year, not once the Pac is back.
This isn’t nearly as difficult as you guys are making it out to be. Bray never wanted to be a HC, but he felt he was needed. The guy’s a good DC. You want people playing to their strengths and this will allow him to do that. Bringing in an “analyst” who has experience and expertise with the HC duties is a no-brainer and happens in other organizations all the time.
Hoke doesn’t sound like an obvious candidate because he has like 15 years of coaching DL compared to 4 coaching LB. If it IS him, the fact that you guys are against hiring a 4x conference coach of the year and 1x national coach of the year to help Bray is hilarious.
Bray also plans to hand the DC role back over to someone else once he rights the ship. I wouldn’t be surprised if he hires an analyst/LB coach with the intention of them becoming DC in a year or two.
It sounds like either Blue or Legi are the guys he would have picked for DC if they hadn’t left for MSU.
Almost all of his success can be attributed to Rocky Long.
Fresh ideas on modern football are not what he’s going to provide. And sloughing off HC duties is antithetical to being paid to do that job. It is not the simpler method.
I agree with Jack on this. If you are arguing that Bray should coach to his strengths instead of being HC, then you are also hinting at the Peter principle that he shouldn’t have been hired as HC since it is over his head. One or the other. Hoke saw success 15-20 years ago. He is no different than Riley as far as I can tell. He had a run of moderate success, was exposed at Michigan and then failed as DC at NikeU. No thanks to that run of coaching.
We have about 6 options:
1) An old out of work coach AHC with OSU ties (Hoke, Riley, Long, GA,) Bronco Mendenhall would have been a good option
2) An unknown likely young guy who wouldn’t demand too much in salary but Bray is familiar with as DC
3) Bray does both roles as HC/DC which seems like a lot even for a new high school coach
4) An unknown to OSU or Bray but proven DC from a different region of the country who may not demand too much in salary
5) A failed castoff former DC who is looking to rebuild his resume and needs a second chance, formerly of a Power 5 program or NFL, and wouldn’t demand a lot in salary for a couple of years, maybe a short term stay if things go well
6) Hold pat, elevate guys already on staff and Bray just runs a tighter ship with more input on schemes and tendencies but doesn’t make every call
I’m really not sure which would be preferable. But I do like the idea of an unknown savant from a lower level landing in Corvallis and thriving for a few years. I also think the Beavs could get any number of young guys who need a 2nd chance for cheap.
I do trust Bray and I don’t think he would lean towards an ego move or a desperation hire.
Rocky wasn’t at Ball State or Michigan with him.
I’m not saying he gives up those responsibilities, but when you have a system in place, it’s still helpful to have another set of experienced eyes on it.
A budget reduction of ~$3M over 4 years so budgetary considerations might have had a role in this decision.
I saw Dennis Erickson mentioned earlier in this thread. Wouldn’t mind seeing him on the sidelines again.
Apparently it’s not Hoke, Riley, Banker, or Erickson.
Last time I saw Erickson, he was looking pretty frail.
I dont think adding a 77 year old coach to the staff would be good for him, or the team, even if he’s an OSU legend.
They’re saying the MBB game vs Gonzaga tomorrow night is a sellout and the first time it has been a sellout on a long time.
not so – still plenty of seats, probably tickets at the door – per ticket office
Less than 1,000 seats were available at the time the article was published so they expect a sellout.
The more I think about it, Rocky Long seems like a guy who checks all the boxes. Not sure how familiar he and Bray are with each other, but currently Long is working at a small school in Colorado(Fort Lewis College?) as a defensive analyst. So not exactly a position he’s locked into financially.
He was a HC most recently at SDSU, with a quite a bit of success(81-38 record over 9 seasons) and followed that up with a stint at New Mexico as their DC and LB coach.
So appears to be a guy who enjoys cosching but doesnt want the responsibility of being full time Head Coach anymore. Plus a former Beaver.
His downside was a loss of belief that the RPO Chip Kelly offenses could ever be stopped due to the rule changes heavily favoring offenses. He was once an innovative defensive guy but may have lost his fastball and became somewhat disillusioned with the college game. It may be a great idea but he would need to bring some fire and passion or Bray wouldn’t work well with him.
I think there’s enough “inside” guys and the program would benefit from a young, energetic candidate from outside the program who wants to prove himself over 3-4 years….get results with his own recruits/recruits during his tenure….
I’m not advocating for Bray to go the older coach route, but the article clearly says he’s interviewing 2 candidates with Head Coaching and LB coaching experience to bring in as an analyst to help cover some of those duties along with Bray, while Bray is also covering DC duties.
There arent many out of work young coaches out there that fit that description, so it seems more likely it will end up being a recently retired coach.
Rumbles about Texas St are heating up. Bad news for the media deal? We heard there wouldn’t be a new addition without it, but you’d think Memphis and Tulane would be on board if the valuation was good enough.
I’d consider this good news either way. I don’t want more than 10 schools including Gonzaga.
“Oregon State football coach Trent Bray is adding to his responsibilities next season, as he’ll become the Beavers’ defensive coordinator.
In addition, Bray will coach inside linebackers. Bray plans to hire an analyst with head coaching and linebackers experience to assist him in those areas during the football season. Bray said he’s currently talking to a couple candidates, and expects to have a decision within a week.
“I just wanted to get back in and get it right, and get this system, the culture and everything established. Then, down the road, probably handing it back over,” Bray said. “But as of right now, I’ve got to get it back on track.”
Oregon State, which had one of the Pac-12?s best defenses during the 2022 and 2023 seasons under Bray, slipped last season. The Beavers gave up nearly 400 yards and 30 points a game, ranking among the bottom third of FBS teams.”
Seems like too much to cover? I get that he has a lot of energy, but….and does this takeaway from time overseeing the OC and ST coaches? It must?
Don’t remind us of the not so special teams. Why is that coach still around? Did SP do anything significant or impactful to contribute to a win last year?
Walker had to fair catch 99%of all punts. KR ran it out way too much and only lost yards while doing it, too many holding penalties on any return and FG kicking wasn’t exactly a sure thing.
Football is a 3 part sport and Beavs were really playing at half strength most of the year due to all of the injuries on defense and lack of ability in special teams, not to mention Jam going down in game 4…kind of a lost season if you consider all that happened, and a bowl was within reach.
Health and experience should make next year a better one for this group and these coaches.
Brady Hoke has withdrawn his name to become a defensive analyst for the beavers according to a pretty reliable beaver source.
he saw all of the Beaver fans saying “No!!!!!!”
Personally I like Bray running the defense. The scheme seemed much better and more aggressive under him and he doesn’t have to break in a whole new plan/scheme. So I think it’s less work for DC duties than what a new guy coming in would have to do. Of course long term I bet it may be hiring someone within the org to take over coordinator duties
I’m fine with him doing it, since next year is essentially a throwaway. If he’s a natural, so be it. If not, at least the culture part is the focus, and he’ll turn it over to someone else, once he has that core stamped.
There well be improvement on D. How much is to be determined.
Craig Bohl for defensive analyst? He’s coached linebackers.
Bohl would be intriguing.
Good Morning fellow Beavs.
Another week, another top 10 for the Oregon State baseball team.
The Beavers on Monday debuted at No. 7 in the D1Baseball Top 25, landing their second top 10 ranking of the preseason. OSU opened at No. 10 in the Perfect Game Top 25 last week.
New MBB commit. Another international player, this time from France
https://x.com/EkissiKeziah/status/1879582864783954089
Good friends with Sy.
https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2024/10/13/nba-draft-rumors-pelicans-scouting-potential-french-gem-keziah-ekissi/
Here’s a scouting report. Lots of hype, but his JC stats aren’t amazing.
Seems to be able to score in different ways and has good vision. Just hope he can run an offense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpSiwUitjA&ab_channel=VerbalCommits
Yeah, but for a true freshman you have to temper the stat reading a bit. A lot of times if a true freshman is scoring in double digits that’s usually a good sign. Scoring potential is high and he seems to be able to ratchet up his game in other areas when he is not shooting well.
Anyone read the Daschel paywall article with roster updates? Headline says Tongue is hopeful to return in the spring.
https://archive.is/Pqad7
Weird, the Beaverfootball account tweeted something about introducing the new “Edge” coach(or player possibly), but then quickly deleted it, so I didnt actually see who they were talking about. Did anybody else see it?
https://x.com/BeaverFootball/status/1879624144628900333?t=besO6GbY5QcthPsR6n3TkA&s=19
Was already on staff
Nice to see Ewers has declared for the NFL draft. NikeU will have to settle for Moore and hope he is better than he was at UCLA.
Setting aside the UO connection Ewers is making a terrible business decision here. He’ll be a day 3 pick and would make way more in college.
Well, based on the Beck precedent, Ewers can enter, wait for a few weeks until teams get pretty desperate. Realize they aren’t going to replace their latest one year qb, and they start upping the bids for him to stay in college and transfer again. I imagine Ewers may have an agent telling everyone (NikeU) that $6 mil is the starting point for bidding wars. Anybody (ahem, PK, ahem) ready to go $8 or $9 mil?
or tamper and entice another transfer into the portal, as is tradition…..
“Receiver/tight end: The latest addition to the 2025 roster is T’Andre Waverly, a 6-4, 225-pound high school senior from Kamiak High (Wash.). Waverly, who announced his commitment last Saturday at the Navy All-American Bowl, actually signed in December but delayed his announcement for the bowl game.
Waverly’s game features speed, as he’s run a 10.6-second 100 meters as a track athlete. Bray projects Waverly as a tight end who could add 25 pounds and bring some versatility.
“He’s a guy you would have off the ball and move around, and also get into heavy sets like 12 personnel. You’d like to use him to spread people out and create mismatches,” Bray said.”
Awww, put him at WR….
“Defensive tackle Thomas Collins is returning. This really isn’t news, but in today’s world, many players reaffirm their commitment for the upcoming season via social media. Collins isn’t one of those players, but he’s back.”
Great to hear!
We should use Waverly like Tyler Warren at PSU. Lots of potential for creativity with an athlete like that.
Can they do that his first season at 225 lbs? I suspect they could…
Just a bit of perspective:
Warren is 6’6”, 260 lbs and a Senior with great agility, great hands and a great route runner, and the key part of a power running/play action offense.
That is a lot to be as a freshmen…here’s hoping though.
Been trying to think of displaced HCs who also coached LBs. Long is too old, and his d-philosophy doesn’t line up with Bray’s. Hoke is out. Banker would be nuts… not in the good way. Bohl has the Nebraska connection, but he just took the Executive Director position of the AFCF last week. Speaking of Nebraska… Bo Pelini…. Bray might also have a relationship with Mike Stoops, who’s coaching LBs for his brother at Kentucky.
You have to believe that Bray has made a good impression on a lot of coaches over the years as a position coach by his demeanor and passion. Perhaps we will be surprised and he pulls a rabbit out of the hat with a really good connection. I hope it is a guru type of coach that will be a great add for the whole staff in more than just coaching LBs.
It wouldn’t be like a favor or someone owes Bray a year or 2 to help. I figure someone is watching from afar and sees the situation, really likes Coach Bray as a leader and wants to come in a give it a go for the young gun, based on a lot more than finances…
Off topic question
Beaver Baseball stays independent or is Pac 12 baseball strong enough?
PAC baseball is really weak with the current group of teams. The only thing that would make it worth joining is if we add some Big West teams, which seems unlikely.
I don’t think they can stay independent in just baseball, can they?
Conzano was discussing today top football programs won’t want to continue to split revenue from bowl games. Maybe more programs try and go independent? Cons of conferences getting bigger. More ways to split the pie.
And the more they (over)spend the more they’ll be motivated to reduce revenue sharing.
It’s hard to get media deals as an independent, especially if you don’t have data showing you can consistently draw good numbers.
I mean it goes without saying but tomorrow’s basketball game has to be the programs biggest game in years. With a sellout or close to it crowd, it is going to make it very tough on Gonzaga. Winning will certainly turn heads to our program.
Bets that they led a win slip away?!?
Either they lose a late lead or get beat by 20+ points.
Tinkle can’t win these games and Few will coach rings around him anyway.
Great experience and atmosphere for Gill to be sold out again though. Enjoy for those who can make it, but just be prepared for the let-down.
Does anyone really think we’re going to win this one? We have no Q1 wins and got absolutely spanked by a mediocre team on the road.
They’ll keep it close but eventually lose by 8-10 points.
Zags have better athletes, better smarts and are well coached. They won’t be taking this game lightly
I’ll bet it won’t get close enough to slip away. Beavs are a pleasant surprise but not enough talent and Tinkle won’t be able to cope.
if refs weren’t paid to stop calling fouls on hole, would of won that one,
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A name I was just thinking of who hadn’t been mentioned as a potential “analyst with HC experience” is Nigel Burton.
Currently employed by the Pac12 network, but has experience as HC at Portland State and also coached various defensive positions in the past.
Plus he has his OSU ties, working on Coach Riley’s staff at one point.
Still on the younger side than most retired Head Coaches, so I’d think he could still bring that energy required for the daily grind of college football.
As far as I know, he still lives in the Portland area
He only coached DB’s, but this is the kind of hire I could see us making
I think it’s time to go outside the program…
Don’t want the coaches playing dueling banjos at Reser or during meetings…
Would Alex Grinch be an option?
No HC experience
DOE ruling today that says NIL has to comply with Title IX. Game on for WBB! (if Trump doesn’t abolish DOE ;) )
Outside collectives can still do NIL deals with athletes. Would not be subject to title 9 rules. So it stops nothing.
I just saw an article on that. If the $20.5 million House v. NCAA settlement revenue-sharing cap is officially agreed on this spring, the female athletes will have to receive their proportional share. That will leave the football players with much less than what some schools were planning on paying them or the schools will have to pay a lot more revenue-sharing than $20.5 million to give the football players what was being planned on. Of course, any additional amount over $20.5 million would also have to be proportionally shared with the women. Looks like the baseball and wrestling will get very little.
WBB up 2 at the half. Fouls?…….OSU 2 and Santa Clara 10
OSU 49-44 start of the 4th quarter
Great OT win for Beavs 74-72 with the winner goes to Shuler. Beavs let a 12 point lead go with 3.5 minutes to go.
It was almost pure unadulterated choke artistry on the part of the Lady Beavs. Scoring one point in the last 4 minutes, including multiple turnovers, and an offense that was lost most of the time. Marotte was a chief culprit, committing a late turnover and inexplicably entering the key on Schimel’s foul shot, negating the basket and ultimately allowing the tie. They let a tubby fire away from 24 feet rather than foul her before she got to the spot (as they had a foul to give). Although Shuler again made a bucket to win, she is showing that she is a 2nd rate point guard who shoots < 60% on foul shots, 34% from the field, an anemic 11% from 3 point range and commits more turnovers than assists. Unfortunately, she must be the best PG OSU has, which is kind of sad. This team may very well end up over .500 due to Rueck’s coaching abilities, because there sure ain’t any talent on this team…
There aren’t many venues like a packed Gill. It is AWESOME when it’s filled up.
People don’t understand, until they’ve seen it. We just don’t see it like we used to.
Some students have potty mouths.
Rataj taking over and Lake with the hustle plays… and both at the line… that was impressive.
46-45 Beavs at the half. They look fired up, but gave up too many open looks in that first half. If we tighten up the defense we will win this game.
Those open 3s result from collapsing defense in the middle of the zone.as the zag player flashes to the middle That’s one of the weak spots in a zone.
Can we please get a rebound
Quite a game by the Fighting Tinkles. This team makes you want to believe they can be different. Lots of variety in skills and dep with capable scorers. Defensive rebounding is the obvious weakness.
Need to finish this. Up 4 1:00 left
Go Beavers!!! Nice win.
Hot damn! That was a hell of a game. Dare I say… well coached?
Two OT wins tonight, one HC shows the sweat while one just keeps teachin’
Good night to be a Beav!
Credit where it is due. Great job by Beavs and I’ll give Coach Tinkle some credit for not over-coaching in the final minutes and letting them just play it out.
Go Beavs! Still undefeated against Gonzaga all-time.
Not true.
26-2 vs Gonzaga
One of the biggest wins of Tinkle’s career. The sellout, the stakes, just phenomenal.
Great win…. Let’s hope Beavers can follow it up with a road win against San Fran and really make it start getting interesting…
That was one heck of a game by both teams. Congrats to the beavers as they showed a lot of guts in that win!
Instant classic of a game. Felt like a tourney game with the back and forth and then the unlikely shot to tie to go to OT.
Lake diving for the ball and the steal in OT were pretty great.
Both teams overcome a 3 pointer at the end of regulation to win it in OT. Most teams would fold under those circumstances but both teams gritted out tough wins! Tinkle might be considered for COTY if his team makes the NCAA given the rebuilt roster. Rueck has the lady Beavs 8-4 over the last dozen games. If both teams finish strong, anything can happen.
Tinkle may get another extension if they keep this up. Looked like a tournament team tonight. Kingz and Rataj were pretty impressive at times. Guards played composed. Was a fun team to watch. Could be a great game to build some momentum off of
Also, should have fouled up 3 at the end. No reason Zags should have been allowed to shoot a 3 to go to OT
I agree, but we played great defense and forced not only a (uncalled) travel. But put the ball in the hands of the guy we wanted taking the 3. But Tinkle has never been one to foul up three so I figured it was unlikely.
Heck, Tinkle might get a better offer from another program. I looked it up, his winning pct. is still below Craig Robinson’s – yet I think Tinkle is the kind of coach OSU can value. Someone who might not win 20 games every year, but will stick around and not sniffing around for a new gig or contract every off-season. I doubt Beaver fans will ever expect the NCAA tourney to be a regular thing with him, but a competitive team most years, a good team occasionally will get him over the awful years.
That’s the issue with Stinkle. He’s followed up the ncaa tournament appearances with 2 of the worst seasons in history.
3-28 and 5-27
Not that is not acceptable
I’m not the smartest basketball fan but it seems like Tinkle is good when he has a floor general. He lets them call a lot of the plays and get guys into sets… which I think is a huge deal and something some even really good coaches cant cede. But when he doesn’t have a floor general he is awful at getting guys into the right sets.
He can’t recruit and never was able to capitalize on his tournament success. The shift to international recruits is huge, mainly driven by NIL, and I’m pleasantly surprised WT recognized this. Guessing Haslam had a lot to do with it.
Great win against a great program. The team kept fighting despite Gonzaga almost clawing back and some sketchy reffing.
Gill was absolutely electric, great sellout atmosphere. Wish every game was that packed, and with a win like this, they might start to be.
Just got home…y’all missed a good one if you weren’t there
Damn, wish I had gone to that….sounds and reads like a tremendous game!
Good win. Happy to be wrong. Didn’t think they had it in them to beat Gonzaga
Eggers put this long read on the football offseason up the other day. In it he mentions 2 analysts Bray plans to hire. The defensive one we’ve been talking about, but also one on offense. Langsdorf is the rumored offensive guy.
On defense, Eggers throws a few potential names out there. Says Banker is not the guy(according to Banker himself)
Also mentions Craig Bray and Brady Hoke(both retired).
No other clues yet on who the defensive guy will be though, although someone on thos board did say Hoke is not taking the job, so maybe it is Bray’s dad?
https://www.kerryeggers.com/stories/with-trent-bray-and-kyle-bjornstad-everything-you-want-to-know-about-beaver-football
The more I think about it, the more I think Mike Stoops would fit this position best.
He’s a good DC stuck as a position coach. His brother is on the hot seat. So Corvallis would be a perfect place to find stability.
It’s all conjecture. Do we have a timeline on the hires?
I think Daschel said the hire would happen within 2 weeks, and we’re 1 week in.
But I don’t think there’s an official deadline or anything like that
mark few postgame ” its great to have osu and wsu in our conference, you know they’re highly competitive teams, but they act like high level division one programs in their athletic departments which is a breath of fresh air”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtBtoaWiYcU
Beavs have 12 games left before the WCC tournament. If we include last night (7 games) its pretty brutal….
vs Gonzaga (W)
at San Francisco
vs Pepperdine (should be a W, they aren’t good)
vs Santa Clara
at Gonzaga
vs Wazzu
vs St Mary’s
The last 6 look pretty manageable
at Portland
vs Pacific
at Pepperdine
at San Diego
vs San Francisco
at St Mary’s (toughest of the 6)
The top 6 of the WCC are head and shoulders above the bottom 5. Third place and 13 conference wins isn’t out of the question.
Against the top half, we should just assume road games are losses and home games are 80% win probability at this point.
Some of these road venues are pretty small. Outside Gonzaga, the road crowd impact should be minimal.
They just have to treat every opponent like Gonzaga and go in with that mindset.
And that’s on the staff
They have the road win monkey off their back so if they can channel the energy they had at Santa Clara, they should be able to pull a few of these off. The GU game at home with a packed house is tough to replicate.
I’ve seen Nolan Richardson take his bench under the hoop during timeouts, because the gym with a sellout crowd of 3000 was that loud.
https://x.com/TheoLawson_SR/status/1880161292973183438
Few with a brutal diss on the WCC. I’m sure Gonzaga is excited to be changing conferences.
Definitely planning for a future after Few retires. WCC would always be a 1-2 bid conference. New PAC12 would probably be 3-4 bids per year.
They are planning for a future after Few retires. WCC will always be a 1-2 bid league. New PAC12 will be 3-4 bid.
We should all be Anteater fans. If UCI can sneak into the top 30, that would give us a second Q1 win. Pretty sure they’ll have to run the Big West table for that, but it’s not impossible.
https://x.com/Brett_Taylor94/status/1880181665479422113
Only one guy on this team was here three years ago. Pretty sure Tinkle is the only coach that is still around. He’s basically bemoaning his own personal situation.
It’s hard to root for Tinkle when he’s constantly complaining like this. It would be one thing to criticize the conference situation. It’s another to repeatedly complain about everyone leaving you because of the new reality of NIL. He has to be the most bitter coach OSU has ever seen.
Hopefully he feels validated or whatever now and can move on.
I need one of those sweatshirts
Much better than Beaver Nation, which is just a lame mimic of whatever NFL team started it–I think it was the Raiders. Other teams using it is also lame and cringe. It’s more annoying than, “We must protect this house,” was when it was a thing.
But I actually want players to say they choose Dam Nation. That is neither lame nor stale.
Yeah, and yet we are cajoled to believe he is the most recognizable face in OSU athletics and would become a great AD eventually.
In spite of this win, I still think he is just cashing checks rather than building a program. Rueck wouldn’t and hasn’t said anything along those lines. Rue k is a true Beaver and has stood the test of just as many injustices but he keeps teaching and actually winning consistently.
Tinkle catches lightning in a bottle every 5 years…and gripes about his roster in the other 4.
re:Tinkle. That seems a bit harsh. He didn’t cause the circumstances of the last couple of years. It doesn’t require the complaining. We all know about them. Money aside, I think he wanted to show he could coach. I think he has a good staff this year.
I’ll admit, I probably am a bit harsh towards Tinkle. His act has worn me out. He has a pattern of roller coaster seasons with an ironic tenure that includes 2 of the better seasons and 2 of the worst seasons since the Ralph Miller era. Of course he will have many supporters who applaud the NCAA appearances and the Elite 8 run. I don’t really see him through that lens as much as a lens of wasted talent and blown up rosters. He gets credit for the good, but not much blame for the bad, and he doesn’t actually build a program for the long-term. He is a yearly scratch baker and we never know what he has going into any season, which I think is by design.
We should be critical of him, but we should also recognize that there are worse coaches to have out there and at least we have the chance to be good with him. And if we get rid of him, are we really going to get a better coach. My optimism says yes, but my realism says we probably are best just riding this out. He seems to have found a new groove with the influx of international players. We just landed another French guard with NBA interest, and it’s likely that Minor and Kingz get extra years of eligibility due to new JC rules. If that’s the case, we will be set for next year at the least. My dad asked my what I thought of him after the analysts were slurping him for beating Gonzaga and I said at least he is good at finding diamonds in the rough. But I agree that I don’t want to be waiting for every fifth year for the program to be watchable.
He’s always had a good eye for talent, but then he struggles to make that talent into a team (until now?)
It’s a good point. I think he got talented guys but they weren’t team players and as a coach, there is no way to know how players will gel. And when you are dealing with the caliber players we get, they have to gel. Otherwise we have guys like Pope going for 25 a night while we lose. I think that’s why he has been going after international players. They better understand the concept of playing team basketball and playing with good fundamentals.
Beavs had Oregon football POY/HS All-American RB LaMarcus Bell from Lake Oswego (#2 ’26 recruit in the state) at the MBB game last night. Good night for a visit!
Prior to last night’s win, OSU NET ranking was #54 and Zags #11. I would think the beavers jump to low 40s after last night’s great win.
Correction as Beavs were #58
That was after. Games through Jan 17
Gonzaga 11
Beavs 54
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/net
I was gonna post that article this morning. That NCAA quote is baffling. Why does the portal exist if what the NCAA said is accurate. College athletics sucks.
Meant this reply to WSN’s post below.
Oh FFS. So now the portal is irrelevant?
I agree with what another poster wrote last month. Waiting for a player to transfer to the opponent at halftime of a game.
“The NCAA issued a statement Friday saying that “NCAA rules do not prevent a student-athlete from unenrolling from an institution, enrolling at a new institution and competing immediately.”
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43458151/xavier-lucas-leaves-wisconsin-miami-entering-portal
I vlcalked for that halftime transfer like a year ago or so….getting so absurd, will enjoy it when it happens…
Man NCAA free agency is SO much better than NFL….a kid would be crazy not to maximize their income at the college level….top talent could invest and not even need to plan NFL.
You have to think at some point the NFL gets involved to dissuade this kind of league competition for athletes….the NFL doesn’t like competition.
NFL involvement is probably more likely than heavy handed NCAA involvement. I read a comment on a different blog that posed a “conspiratorial explanation” for this latest decision as well as the other NIL/transfer portal chaos, saying the NCAA has been bashed and diminished by SEC/Big10 for about 15 or 20 years, and this current uncharted territory allowed by the NCAA is the payback to essentially let the house burn down and push everyone back into the same arena of uncertainty, instead of the P2 schools being able to maintain roster dominance in perpetuity. I don’t know how NCAA just laying down and never enforcing anything is a healthy response to longtime cheating by blue bloods, or public chastising by those same blue bloods of the NCAA brass, but I suppose there may be something to it.
NCAA has run its course at this point and a new governing body needs to be developed based on more than TV contracts and alumni cash. I have no idea how or what that should look like, but Sankey shouldn’t be permitted to drive that bus.
Things the NCAA (via the House settlement for the first) can do is enforce roster compliance for a season and proper enrollment procedures.
It benefits schools on quarters, since they begin the fall term later, and someone can still enroll a couple weeks or so beyond that.
The teams still playing after winter break will need to have open roster spots, which will probably depend on how many of their players hit the portal or opt out, since most coaches will max their rosters to begin the season.
Looking at San Francisco for tonight’s game….
15-5 record. They have not lost at their home gym the sobrato center. They did lose to Memphis as the home team but that game was played at the chase center.
Other losses were to Clemson at a tournament in Florida and on the road to Bradley, Wazzu and Santa Clara. They got blown out by 23 at Santa Clara 2 nights after the Beavs took them to OT down there. However my gut tells me the Beavs would’ve lost by double digits had the broncos made their FT’s.
Best win appears to be a home win over Boise State.
This looks to be a guard heavy team. Guards Malik Thomas and Marcus Williams are the only 2 players that average double digit points. Both shoot over 45% from the floor and right at 40% on 3’s.
Our guards will have their hands full defensively. But the Beavs appear to have a size advantage inside.
Don’t think I’d want to get into an up and down game with these guys. Slow it down, go inside and try to get to the FT line. Hold them to around 65 points or less and they usually lose. This is a team that like to score 80+
Looks like a winnable game? But we’ll see.
If the Beavs get can a road W tonight and Gonzaga takes care of Santa Clara at home, the Beavs would be all alone in 3rd of the WCC
Good news for us is our best defensive players are guards.
Oregon State, Jade Carey produce season best scores in dominant win over San Jose State
The Beavers’ 197.6 is the seventh best team score in school history. Competing before 4,824 at Gill, Carey teased perfect 10s in uneven bars and balance beam, settling for 9.975 in each. Carey’s all-around score was 39.8, a season best and tied for ninth of her college career.
Carey didn’t steal the entire show, though. Sophia Esposito won the vault with a career-high 9.925. Kaitlin Garcia matched Carey on floor with a 9.95. Lauren Letzsch and Jennifer McMillan posted 9.9s on balance beam.
It was a runaway victory, as San Jose State scored 192.850.
Hopefully, the win over a solid Gonzaga team will be a confidence builder going into tonight’s game vs USF. If Fallah plays like he did last night and the Beavs play solid defense, this game is winnable.
WBB down 35-23 late in the first half and getting dominated in the paint. OSU has missed at least 6 shots point blank range.
Holy jumpin’ up and down, Martha!
Shooting %: Portland 58, Beavs 30
16 pts down at the half
47-31 halftime and the WBB is laying ugly basketball.
….. playing…..
62-39 so this one is over in the third quarter.
USF shot 70 percent in the first half. There is no way they keep that up in the second half. Law of averages says that number should come down quite a bit.
Dunno bc UofP shot the lights out tonight in the 1st half and continued on the 2nd half and won by 25 over the lady Beavs. The beavers were overwhelmed and over-matched.
OT: Yeesh, Lions down 14 at home after 4 TOs….very beaver-like….except Lions were favored…
ick Cronin’s UCLA men’s basketball team has spent the first two months of the 2024-25 season racking up frequent-flyer miles, with trips to New York, Nebraska and Maryland already completed.
When it comes to other teams’ potential travel woes, Cronin isn’t exactly sympathetic.
In a news conference Friday night following the Bruins’ 94-70 thumping of Iowa, Cronin was asked if he has noticed any “wear and tear” that Big Ten teams making the trip west to face UCLA and USC have shown and whether it’s comparable to what the Bruins have endured going east so frequently.
“Have you ever looked at the NBA stats, with the gamblers and what all those people do with west versus east?” he said. “Talk to (USC coach) Eric Musselman. Ask him that question. He coached in the NBA. Good luck west going east. Ask me UCLA’s record east of the Mississippi in the last 20 years because when I got the job, I looked it up for scheduling purposes. It’s under .500.
“We have to go back four times. The Big Ten teams get to come to Los Angeles, where it’s 70 degrees, one time a year. They don’t even have to switch hotels. We’re 12 miles apart. Are you kidding me? Please tell me you’re kidding me. Is this a plant? Is this a planted question? You cannot be serious. Meanwhile, we’ve seen the Statue of Liberty twice in the last three weeks while we were landing. We also saw the Capitol building. And we’re still got to go back. And then we’ve got to go back for the Big Ten tournament.”
In its first season in the Big Ten, UCLA has already had road games against Nebraska (about 1,500 miles from Los Angeles), Maryland (2,640 miles) and Rutgers (2,750 miles), along with a trip to New York for a non-conference, neutral-site game against North Carolina.
The Bruins still have road games remaining against Indiana, Illinois, Purdue and Northwestern, as well as the Big Ten tournament in Indianapolis.
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After rising as high as No. 18 in the USA TODAY Sports Coaches Poll, UCLA’s victory against Iowa snapped a four-game losing streak, with three of those four defeats coming in conference road games. The Bruins are 0-3 this season in games played east of the Mississippi River.”
Bwa-ha-haha-ha!
Bitch to your bosses and spare us your sob story.
Bosses shoulda’ listened to Walton’s (RIP) fact based argument for staying PAC.
…every argument made by these senior AD’s and why they like it, is about money,
these same proponents of moving to the Big 10, are the first people I have ever encountered in my life,
who have claimed economic hardship and limitations in Los Angeles, and that the solution lies in the Midwest..,
https://tucson.com/sports/pac-12-hotline/ucla-icon-bill-walton-breaks-silence-roasts-school-over-big-ten-move-that-s-about/article_767dc198-5a1d-11ed-a141-a3a1a35e5c3f.html
Fuck ’em.
Beavs laying another road egg against USF. Down 16 with about 13 left. Huge Tinklesque scoring droughts like seasons past.
Well, it is on the road after all. Beavs have 5 guaranteed losses from upcoming road games. The question is whether they can win all of their home games and hold at 11 losses for the year.
What would a 20-11, 5th place WCC team be in the at large NCAA bubble?
They wouldn’t be on the bubble. WCC is a 2 bid league at best.
The luster probably got taken off that Gonzaga win. Maybe it’s a down year for them. Santa Clara won in Spokane tonight and put up 103 points.
They will not be in the top 25 on Monday
I can see three, with the fourth being on the bubble. It would depend who’s on the bubble. Zags maybe gets in. We would not.
Lmao!!!!!! Show us years where the WCC was a 3-4 bid league
It’s really unfortunate what happened to your ass.
It’s possible for it to be a three bid conference this year. I didn’t say it was likely. And Zags would get preferential treatment as a bubble fourth bid. It’s not a highly likely scenario, but I can see it.
My ass is fine. Your brain on the other hand…..
2022. WCC got 3 bids. Gonzaga, St Marys and San Francisco. I’ll give you one year.
As the other teams in the West suffer the consequences of travel, there will be more opportunity to supplant them. The WCC maybe remains a 2 bid conference, without Zags, and with a Western Bloc scheduling agreement.
We all have no reason to subsidize the 10 who went east for money.
Fuck em.
Tinkle unfortunately proving that the praise for him after Gonzaga was largely unwarranted. Still can’t beat a decent team on the road.
Tinkle’s biggest problem has been his inability to win on the road. Showed again tonight. You can’t let a team shoot 65 percent from 3 and feel anything good about yourself as a basketball team. They have let their defense slip and it’s really showing now. Early in the season they were one of the top defensive teams. Winning on the road comes from defense, not offense.
To be fair, I can see why they haven’t lost there.
They were putting up inadvisable shots and still draining them. They are very comfortable on that floor.
I’m guessing it’s the same place they practice. They probably make nuttier shots just playing horse.
I have never invested the time or effort to check it out. Was the inability for Tinkle’s teams a trend at Montana when he was there or is it something just since he took over at OSU? Either way I sure wish him and his staff would figure it out….
My only recall of his Montana record was the 2013 NCAA tourney. They were there because of winning the Big Sky conference. Naturally they were scheduled against a powerhouse. Syracuse 82 Montana 31 (or something like that.)
Yes, but he had Cherry leading that group.
Someone pointed out above that is the common thread in his successful teams–having an experienced floor general.
It’s been highlighted a couple times.
That everyone else is content to have proper spacing and to use that to get the hot hand the ball is a little new, to me. We have intangibles, for the first time in a long time.
Beavs current net ranking dropped to #60 after the loss to USF…
The Gonzaga loss to Santa Clara didn’t help.
Just listened to a podcast on the PAC 12 potential adds and here’s the summary according to that podcast:
Texas State is the most likely to become the next full member of the PAC. Apparently mutual interest by both sides and current negotiations are ongoing.
North Texas and UTSA are next in line after TX State becomes a member.
UNLV is not off of the table despite signing an MOU with the MWC.
Memphis and Tulane are less likely to become members in the immediate future, however, if the Texas schools join, that might be an enticing opportunity for Memphis and Tulane.
Finally, it is unlikely that Sac State becomes a member as the PAC has stated more than once they are not interested in adding any FCS schools. There is a potential for a scheduling affiliation with SS for non conference games with PAC schools.
So, adding three schools from Texas gets the PAC into a large TV market and adds a school with a student population of 40,000 with strong booster support for TX State. North Texas has a strong MBB program and adding Gonzaga to the PAC could be an enticing opportunity for NT.
I guess we will see some movement at least for the 8th football member in the very near future.
Texas State seems like a no brainer.
What is Utah’s negotiated deal w/B12? Do they get full shares or half? Is there any thought to try and bring them back? I suppose it’s not realistic at all at this point.
Big12 members signed on as full share members. Only conference that had that built into their deal, other than USC/UCLA joining the Big10 originally.
(But UCLA isnt really getting a full share since some of it gets re-routed to other University of California schools.
UCLA also required to pay university of cal $50M over 5 years for the loss of TV revenue.
Really no mention of the former PAC 12 schools although if the ACC breaks up, Cal and Stanford would likely try to sign in with the B10 or B12, I can’t remember which one according to the Podcast.
Stanford will go where they can get the most money. Cal might follow or just come back to the conference they helped start, for the welfare of the SAs.
How that changes the money on our side would be the question. And what will be the revenue from Pac 12 Enterprises? That separate entity seems like one that is primed for growth, and that would be an excellent investment for a PE firm with a long-term outlook… and industry connections… maybe someone like Wes Edens.
Another thing to consider is the rumored alliance between the Pac, WCC, and Big West.
If Cal needs to go fishing across the country for all their lesser sports, their noncon schedule would be as bad as their ACC schedule. They would probably just cut a lot of teams… but not T&F.
What kind of self-respecting university doesn’t have a T&F team?
I hate Lynn Snyder.
T&F is just a giant money hole.
Tell that to the Ducks… a school that doesn’t have a fundamental technique named after one of their Olympians.
No to PE forms as they are just glorified loan sharks waiting for those in debt to just default so they can take over capital assets.
That’s baloney.
Some? Sure.
But they would pay out $100m (round number) a year for 10 years for 15% equity in an entity already streamlined. They enjoy an annual distribution of cash flow for minimal guidance/effort. Many PE firms like that steady cash flow, and this could both be into perpetuity, and be a business poised for growth of that cash flow in short order, increasing distributions to everyone involved.
We pay someone 15% of X, because that’s the amount of equity (skin in the game) they purchased. We do this, because they can turn X into 3X. And 85% of 3X is better than 100% of X.
And the conference gets 10 years of substantial revenue payments to get all our houses in order, on top of other revenue streams, which would be separate from PE, because we leveraged a business owned by the Pac, not the Conference and its rights.
That separation is key. If we were just a Conference selling our soul… no thanks. Bad idea. But we have something no other conference has–an independent media company.
It’s one of the reasons the B1G gets a bigger deal from FOX. They owned 50% equity in their network and sold another 11% to FOX on this newest deal. FOX is essentially the PE firm in this scenario.
As long as they are domestic PE firms that aren’t in essence loan sharks, but I wouldn’t let international PE firms like the Saudis within spitting difference of college athletics and the Saudis have expressed interest in getting their filthy hands into the pie.
I mean… Wes Edens was my example.
I know he’s probably busy playing with trains, but he has connections in the sports world.
UNT has 47k students, and UTSA has 36k.
All three of those state schools are growing fast, in an age of dwindling enrollments at a lot of schools. If they’re willing to spend at a level that will make themselves autonomous schools, we’re in business.
I would also add Wichita State. They are already an autonomous school, and they could be a travel partner for UNT. And their exit fees have to be lower than for the others, since they don’t have football.
Yeah this is a future-looking move, but it’s not going to get much attention the day it happens. Really sucks we’re going to miss out on Memphis/Tulane. It really waters done the level of competition.
It’s all relative.
Honestly, the Texas schools have more in common with us than the conferences they’re in. Some guidance from schools who have built their programs already, along with increased revenues, and I would expect them to be competitive pretty quickly.
But it’s about how much they’re willing to spend on their ADs as a whole, not just football. The teams we gathered are all committed to becoming autonomous schools. That’s what Mark Few’s comment was about the other day.
It sucks not getting Memphis, because they’re primed for autonomy. UTSA and TXST need some work. UNT is better set to make that move, since they’ve built out their facilities over the years.
And I would expect just TXST in the first year, with the others announcing to join the next year, to minimize exit fees.
According to the podcast I listened to, TX State will be the first to join most as soon as March 2025 although not guaranteed. The other schools join at a later date. Ultimately, they want to expand to 10 teams so they have 9 conference games and 3 non-conference games. So you are correct on Texas State with the other two schools joining later. Of course, all of this is based on what the podcast provided and I have no idea how connected they are but they sounded like they know something is in the works and will be announced sometime this Spring.
We all know mid to late March will be when everything is announced. And these moves make the most sense. The travel is already a stretch, but past Texas are the fun airports. And by fun, I don’t mean fun.
Ryan Day complains about officiating, Ohio State submits report, video. Summary highlights:
“Ohio State is No.3 in the nation with 51 sacks, and No. 3 in rush defense. It’s nearly impossible to not have earned a holding call from an opponent — especially since many coaches and players insist there’s holding on nearly every snap of every game.
It’s not just the 728 consecutive plays since the last holding call, it’s the 207 plays in three CFP games — where officiating is supposed to be the elite of the elite. Football Bowl Subdivision conferences working the CFP games send their highest-rated crews to work the games. ”
Pretty compelling if true. So the Ducks were sacked 8 times and never held all game?!?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/01/20/ohio-state-coach-ryan-day-officiating-sec-college-football-playoff/77829895007/
Just points out the officiating sucks and lacks integrity everywhere…
Remember when (of course you do) Beavers beat USC in LA for the first time since the Jurassic, and had 3 defensive holding calls in one drive?!?
Not that Ohio St needs the help, but that is a fairly compelling argument for sketchy officiating if they haven’t had an offensive holding call n 9 games by an opponent.
Is there any other sport as predictable as college football? Sure, there are definitely upsets, but, in general, the outcomes of games, especially the big time ones, are easily predictable beforehand. I don’t know how to improve the parity of the sport, but the NIL arms race will not make it better. It’s quite insane that so many of the national title games have been so terrible. The last time we had a title game that came down to the wire was 2018.
Like super bowls used to be…but people are making money…
It’s always a risk of a playoff system. As has been pointed out here, there are no transitive properties. Matchups matter.
Exactly. Ducks can cry all they want. Texas gave tOSU a better game. Juat because you’re 13-0 doesn’t mean you’re the best team.
Sometimes the best team doesn’t win it. It’s the team that gets hot at the right time. See the 2007 ncaa baseball tournament for example
That 4 game win streak wasn’t an ordinary team getting hot at the right time though. How many teams could have won those 4 games in a row? I figured zero chance any of the host teams could win 4 in a row but 2 of them got to the finals.
Ohio St has NIL, alumni base, tradition, geography and recruiting off the charts. They supplement with the transfer portal but don’t rely on it.
Good for Day to win, ESPNSEC honks don’t get to wake up demanding Day should be fired.
Saban’s new rant is the “model is unsustainable” where a team can spend $30M on NIL while other teams spend $3M
No shit, Sherlock.
https://x.com/On3sports/status/1881435576139690221
Yeah, that was quite the schedule, and i haven’t seen any articles suggesting someone else should have been there instead or could have won those four games.
I thought first round byes were rewards for conference championships, no? Some suggest a first round bye means you end up with a tougher game and that’s unfair. But if winning a conference title game isn’t going to have an effect, why play conference title games? A bye also has other benefits obviously, and in the NFL teams don’t seem to complain about them. Of course they get to host a home game instead of play at a neutral site.
Conspiracy theory…..
tOSU intentionally lost to Michigan so they wouldn’t have to play Oregon in the B1G title game.
Stretch? Maybe. tOSU got extra rest. But had to play an extra game before facing Oregon again.
Could Ryan Day have been playing chess while Lanning was playing checkers?
Food for thought
No, The Chipster just called a stupid game by trying to show they were tough by running the ball and not throwing to the three NFL receivers they have. Played right into Mechicken’s hand.
I think that approach was inspired by Day…wanting to out physical M.
I wonder what the ratings for OSU-ND were. I heard ratings for the semis were down significantly compared to last year. Makes sense, the new format drags our way to long, and especially when the NFL playoffs are already going on. Fans of all the eliminated teams checked out weeks ago. The new format has turned out to be an unmitigated disaster.
ESPN will be convinced it is a disaster only because the SEC was shutout of the finals.
https://www.sportico.com/business/media/2025/college-football-championship-ratings-fall-12-percent-pay-tv-erosion-1234824921/
“All told, this year’s game ranks as college football’s fourth least-watched title tilt of the last 10 years.”
Lol so…right in the middle of the pack
Maybe the tv execs need to consider that college football season is over on New Year’s Day for 90% of the country.
CFB is up against a sports and holiday calendar that makes it tricky to have 4 weeks of playoff games between Thanksgiving and New Year’s Day. The next step is for them to push to start the season in mid August to gain 2 weeks and push schedules to create a bigger gaps from the end of season to Jan 1 week.
Ohio St just played 16 games. Insane.
There’s going to be a lot of not faked cramps in mid-August games, especially in the South.
It’s probably not a good decision, which is why it’ll probably happen.
I wonder what the cumulative total viewership was for playoff games? And what is the reduction of viewership for non-playoff bowl games games where players and coaches are now sometimes leaving before their non-playoff bowl game is played?
It took about 5 month s to play the season and determine a champion…I’m sure having it drawn out so long reduced eyes on the NC game.
Maybe the format will just take a few years to get used to but I figure it will all be blown up before anyone has time to adjust. UCLA is already having buyer’s remorse and a lot of non football athletes should be ready to transfer into OSU and the new-look PAC12 after the travel disaster of midwest and east coast conference play. SEC wants to deconstruct the CFP already. Big12 thinks they deserve a bigger slice of the pie, ACC is on an island waiting to be picked off one school at a time.
I was just looking at how the FCS playoffs are set-up. THey have the first 3 rounds at home sites, which would be insanely fun as a participating school. They also have 10 conference champs autobids, and 14 at-large. Matchups are based on geographical proximity, which is also a process of elimination for each region. I like it, but it would never happen in major D1 football.
https://www.ncaa.com/championships/football/fcs/road-to-the-championship
Who would ever consider a 24 team field, segmented by region, with homes site games for the first 3 rounds as a sound strategy for a tournament? Probably no one would be interested.
Keeping some games on campuses would be cool.
I could almost imagine CAL or another school or two wanting back in if they could accept the academics(?).
“UCLA is already having buyer’s remorse and a lot of non football athletes should be ready to transfer into OSU and the new-look PAC12 after the travel disaster of midwest and east coast conference play. ”
This plays into strategizing fior the long game, as Jack has emphasized. I could see Men’s baseball benefiting in this regard, soccer, WBB, maybe even basketball.
A whole lot of football offers going out this week to ’26 and ’27 guys.
How many of you degenerates are going to Surprise?
this degenerate/deplorable will be in attendance
Most likely
I resemble that remark
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFGzbNCyL9G/
Little tidbit of beaver lore coming full circle worth a note.
Former beaver running back Jovan Stevenson, who “dated” the coaches daughter during his playing time has been named the head coach at Crescent Valley after longtime coach Andrew McClave retired.
His son Elijah Riley-Stevenson (Class of 2030) is a middle school track phenom that has offers from just about every SEC/B1G school (and OSU) and he is often posting selfies with his grandpa on various visits.
Will be interesting if to see if he develops into the 5-star kind of kid that he’s projected to and if OSU has a any luck landing him as he’s quite literally “home grown”.
I see what you did there
That’s cool, thanks for sharing. I did a little IG sleuthing and Elijah’s handle is “mini coach riley”. I love it. That’s gonna burn some on here though lol
Riley is one of the nicest people there is.
And he’s loyal to a fault.
He’s probably an awesome grandfather.
Latest on national rankings for OSU via free agency;
Oregon State’s 11 transfers rank tied for 52nd nationally per Rivals.com, with the Beavers having tallied 705 transfer points. How transfer points are calculated can be found HERE…
The Beavers are currently tied with the Baylor Bears and are just one spot behind Alabama… OSU also ranks higher than UNLV, South Florida, Stanford, and Arizona State in the top 50…
The Beavers were also the top team in the Pac-12, holding 705 points and 11 transfers to Washington State’s three for 180 points.
Also, we’re pretty confident the Beavers are satisfied as far as the portal goes entering spring, so don’t expect any additional transfers before spring football. If there is some attrition with the spring football portal window, the Beavers could look to address needs, but as of now, they like where they stand…
UO Ducks took a tackle from Nevada and one from Texas State….thought that was beneath them..
Dante Moore already being sold as a top 10 Heisman candidate…seems a BIT premature given the lack of PT….
If Moore is their starter, and OSU defensive guys are healthy, I’d say the Beavs may have a shot at beating them even at Autzen.
Should be a get well game for the Beavs at gill tonight. Pepperdine has one conference win.
Key word being should.
Rematch with Santa Clara on Saturday
Lady Beavs down 25-24 to USF at half.
Announcers really suck
Varsity Network’s the way to go……….Ron Callan
Fallah out for tonight’s game due to concussion protocol.
WBB looks to be headed for ANOTHER OT………2pt Beav lead with under 2 min left
Lost 54-52
Get well indeed. Blitzed em in the 2nd half. 83-63 final
WBB falls 54-52 and had a chance to win with 16 secs left but couldn’t get the ball to fall through.
This is completely off-topic and mostly directed toward Angry. That being said, anybody into good guitarists should check out Daniel Donato. He blends country, rock, and honky-tonk beautifully.
Angry, I think he has four or five dates in Colorado this year. I’m seeing him in Bend in a couple of weeks. Should be a fun show.
https://youtu.be/o3x3udQ73NY?si=Zh37yRmTtBj1XaTq
If you enjoy blues, rock, slide guitar, check out Larkin Poe if you haven’t.
Speaking of Bend, I’m going to be in Oregon in Spring doing some gravel biking. Anyone know some great trails in Portland, Bend, etc?
Not sure about gravel, but lots of great trails on the nearby National Forest for you to access. I think more of mountain biking though…I’m sure there are many gravel roads to access too though.
Cool. Which national forest is that? A lot of them have good fire roads. I’ll check some sites as the dates get closer, but I’m wondering if there are any riders here who know good local trails.
Check out Deschutes National Forest website links for road cycling and mountain biking, and you’ll find opportunities. I’m sure there’s also their system roads that provide gravel bike opportunities.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/deschutes/recreation/bicycling
Cool, will do. I generally use gravelbikeadventures, but just haven’t yet dug into the site. If any locals know some of the best rides (maybe hidden gems) hit me up on email or here. I’ll be out there between April and May – what do you guys suggest for weather. Is April good enough or should I wait until May?
Working on specific trails/roads, will post when I receive.
I suspect May is safer in terms of good weather, avoiding any late snow and/or rain…
gonna be a crap shoot in either month, later in the year is slightly safer. Anything above 4,500′ will likely be snowed in still. Good stuff outside of Corvallis and Philomath
Angry, check this out, some good info in this subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gravelcycling/comments/1blhfb4/gravel_in_oregon_deschutes_national_forest_photo/?captcha=1
Awesome, thanks!
I second that Larkin Poe recommendation, enthusiastically. Also they’re a joy to watch, the stage presence of the sisters is wonderful. Plenty of YouTube content, where you’ll find some of the better versions of their songs.
Crystal Ballroom, Portland, April 18
Already have tix in hand. Hate that venue though
They were at the sisters blues festival about 3-4 years ago-totally unknown at the time.. There was about 250 of us there…that festival for three years was the greatest under the radar steal. Los Lobos, Walter Trout, Eric Gales, Shemkia Copeland, Larkin Poe, Nikki Hill, Ana Popovic, Kingfish Ingraham, etc. Would start around noon and by 7 all the rich old Sisters folks would pack up their lawn chairs and leave. Everyone one of the above artists Ms. Homefry and I would watch 15 feet from the stage.
Too many stories… having beers with artists when they’re watching other bands. Had taxi driver pick us up final night to take us back to Bend. He waiting outside the city park for us…Eric Gales is closing the night with a medley of “Don’t fear the reaper/Kashmir/Voodoo Child” we hook up with him and he says “What the Fuck was that?” Just laughed and said you should have been here the last three years.
It was awesome being there and not polluted by Live Nation or Hayden hipsters.
Damn, sorry I missed that. Sounds amazing.
Cosmic Country is a great jam band, but Sugar’s vocals are an acquired taste. Still, the jams make up for it, even if the vocals grate on you.
I’d throw Donato in with the other young guitar players as a great crop of youth. I feel like Marcus King, Billy Strings, and Cory Wong are now pretty established. But DD and Evan Nicole Bell are still underrated.
Jack, you’re spot on. My first intro was Sugar Leg Rag which is a instrumental. I decided to check out the album but couldn’t get into it because of his voice. Recently, I checked out his previous albums, which include covers. After listening to the Cosmic Country & Western Songs album, his voice grew on me a ton.
Their instrumental of Ghost Riders in the Sky is unreal: https://youtu.be/EXrAXgOVGi0?si=_LAH6zVTV8Sf3gXu
The whole band is top-notch, and it’s hard not to get moving listening to that type of stuff.
I’ll have to check out Evan Nicole Bell; thanks for the recommendation.
Also check out Dylan Bishop. Kid’s only 20, and he plays a really mature guitar.
Tango Whiskey – your post that went to spam I just approved. If this ever happens, and I miss it, send me an email. Sometimes comments with links get flagged as spam.
Thanks for catching it, Angry. I haven’t commented in a while, and my post included links, so that’s probably why.
OSU current NET ranking at #60.
WBB at #149 out of 362….
If we sweep at home and beat the lower ranked teams on the road, we still have a shot at the tournament. That puts us at 23-8, which has historically been good enough for a bubble team if you have the quality wins. We would need Gonzaga or SMC to finish in the top 25, though.
This also means we have to beat SMC and WSU at home.
I would say we have just as good of a chance of winning the WCC tournament, but it’s not being played at Gill.
Yeah, I’ve thought all along this team has the talent to make the tourney so I agree with your comments.
Biggest concerns are depth and streaky shooting. We don’t have a reliable perimeter threat. The top minutes guys take turns filling in admirably, but I think Sy was supposed to be the guy and he’s struggled.
They arent gonna make the ncaa tournament unless they win the WCC conference tournament
I would settle for a NIT bid. I think that would be a decent achievement. Although if it gets Tinks a 3-5 year extension…….
https://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/dream-come-true-oregon-state-baseballs-whitney-passes-on-first-round-money-for-a-place/article_5d58bcdc-d9e5-11ef-9eea-6f2ef30c066c.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawIA1_9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVK4IqREroV8wRxRyuoqP5FaMBuHA2jXAILIJ4Z8wI2B_QkYy-aCV12Txg_aem_6PCO-LqGOLXahxLw4t2NVA
Nice article about the next beaver pitching great.
Dax Whitney…..
“Dream come true:” Oregon State baseball’s Whitney passes on first-round money for a place in Corvallis
Oregon State freshman right-handed pitcher Dax Whitney turned down first-round money in the 2024 MLB Draft to become a Beaver
A year ago, Dax Whitney was the grim reaper of high school baseball in Idaho.
The 6-foot-5, 204-pound right-handed pitcher was nearly untouchable for Blackfoot High School, appearing in 12 games and allowing just two earned runs in 52.2 innings as a senior. Of 158 plate appearances against him, Whitney fanned 130 and recorded a 0.27 ERA.
Whitney, whose high school teammates called him “King”, was not only the No. 1 player in the state and crowned the Idaho Player of the Year, but also the No. 56 player in the 2024 MLB Draft. Only four right-handed high school pitchers were ranked ahead of him on MLB.com’s top 100 draft prospects list, with all four being drafted and signing for an average of $2.5 million.
Plenty of professional ball clubs would’ve been happy to draft and sign the lanky pitcher, who — at 19 years old — tosses a fastball that knocks on the door of triple digits.
A seven-figure contract was on the table, but Whitney chose college — more specifically, the No. 7-ranked Oregon State Beavers.
“A lot of it was me thinking about why I love playing baseball,” Whitney said. “(I love) being able to have a team and going to dominate with your teammates. I worried that if I was to go play pro ball, I’d just be working for myself and climbing the ranks.”
Getting Whitney to campus was a win for the Beavers as their top addition in the class of 2024, according to Perfect Game. The decision to go pro out of high school or not was the difficult choice, but choosing Corvallis was the easy part.
“I remember when I was younger, my travel ball team was at Buffalo Wild Wings,” Whitney said of his first memories of Oregon State. “I was looking at the TV, it was 2018 and I’m watching (the Beavers) win the (College) World Series. That was my first taste of college baseball… As the recruiting process started, they started talking to me. It just felt like a dream come true for me when I got my offer here.”
OSU connects on this level regularly (Jade Carey is another example), I just wish it was across more sports and more frequently.
The school’s appeal is often to those with enough maturity to care about more than flash and cash. In thinking of the school’s identity going forward into the next era of NCAA/NIL sports, maybe something along the lines of the intangibles of the OSU environment enriching the tangibles of the student-athlete might be appropriate….but in fewer words obviously.
Good read, thanks.
I forget how long ago 2006-07 was and how young college freshman are these days (ok I guess they’re always the same age) but it struck me as funny that his first memory of Oregon St. baseball is our 2018 run.
For some reason, this site doesn’t remember my user name or Gmail address after I post comments and I have to reenter that information each time I post. I have selected the option to save my name for the next time I post so I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong?
Just finished watching the OSU gymnastics team beat Auburn at Auburn on ESPN2, and then like 15 minutes later the network cuts back to the meet and announces that Auburn was awarded the win after judges overturned a penalty previously issued to Auburn. Damn.
As an aside I kinda love that the Beav gymnasts have incorporated the “turnover chainsaw” into their celebration routine.
I love that gymnastics is adding elements of pro wrestling to its presentation with the post-meet officiating decision. What a joke. Now, I’ve been to a few meets, was it before or after they announced the individual winners? Did ESPN just cut away after the final gymnast finished the last rotation?
Sounds like former OSU OLineman Flavio Gonzalez got screwed over by the NCAA making kneejerk decisions with no clear rules in place.
He wss one of the players who previously attended JUCO and was told the NCAA would be adding extra years back to eligibility. So he thought he was done at OSU due to used up eligibility, was told he had an extra year remaining, then entered the portal and successfully transfered to a school closer to home(Arizona i think?) and after transferring, was told….”well actually, you dont technically qualify for another year….”
He and quite a few other athletes are pretty upset after they turned down job opportunities and whatnot to attend an extra year of college.
https://x.com/thtboiflavio/status/1882846853101985917?t=_qdxHGThK85zqX2dpCUqag&s=19
Mixed reaction to it…you’re an undergrad and an adult. Move on. Who wants to be an undergrad for 6+ years…
This guy!
Mixed reaction here as well. I am, however, impressed by his very coherent statement. Well written even if not something with which you agree.
So Nico Taylor ain’t coming back?
Daschel ranks OSU football transfers 10-1, I’m only posting the text of current players, just listing DJUs stats summary for comparison to Murphy:
“Who were the Beavers’ best, most impactful and newsworthy transfers? We rank the top 10. The criteria are varied. It’s not just about how they played at Oregon State; the most recent transfers, for example, haven’t played a down for the Beavers. It’s as much about what it means to the program, or the level of player OSU was able to attract because of its standing in college football.”
10. Addison Gumbs, OLB
9. Nathan Eldridge, C
8. Tyjon Lindsey, WR
7. Tre’Shaun Harrison, WR
6. Riley Williams, TE, Miami
There’s no proof of performance at Oregon State, as Williams recently transferred from Miami. But the program has had a high success rate turning tight ends in NFL-caliber players – Teagan Quitoriano, Luke Musgrave, Noah Togiai in recent years. Williams is one of the highest rated tight end recruits to land at Oregon State. Once a high school student at Central Catholic High, Williams was a 4-star recruit who signed at Miami in 2022. In two seasons with the Hurricanes, the 6-foot-6 Williams caught 15 passes for 187 yards.
5. Darrius Clemons, WR, Michigan
Clemons has yet to make a significant splash at Oregon State, but at the time of his transfer, he was a big get. Coming off a horrific series of news events – loss of the Pac-12, Jonathan Smith leaving for Michigan State, mass transfers leaving the program – the Beavers needed a shot in the arm. Clemons, a 4-star receiver from Westview High, provided that when he transferred from Michigan to OSU last January. Clemons got off to a slow start in Corvallis because of an injury, but had some good moments late in the 2024 season, including an eight-catch, 123-yard performance against Boise State.
4. Tristian Gebbia, QB
3. Avery Roberts, ILB
2. Maalik Murphy, QB, Duke
The biggest win of the Trent Bray era, Oregon State showed it could land a big name by stepping up in the name, image and likeness game. This is Murphy’s third stop in college, which include Texas and Duke. Murphy is the jolt Oregon State’s offense needs after throwing for 2,933 yards and 26 touchdown at Duke last season.
1. DJU, QB – While Uiagalelei had some moments at OSU – a career-high 2,638 passing yards for 21 touchdowns – he didn’t deliver during the biggest games and mostly didn’t live up to the hype.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/ranking-oregon-state-footballs-top-10-all-time-transfers.html
Chad Johnson and TJ Housh.. were pretty productive and important transfers once upon a time.
Wasn’t Steven Paea a transfer too?
Yeah, think this is “portal era” transfers….
Schmucks MBB loses today at Minnesota
You’re welcome! FTD
Beavs lead Santa Clara 32-30 at halftime
Led by as many as 9. This is a game they need to win
54-43 with 10 minutes left.
57-54 Beavs with 7:45 left.
Now down to a three-point lead with about 8 minutes left. Beavs suddenly quit defending the 3-pointer. At one point Beavs led by 13.
Zone tends to do that.
#4 for SC has no pivot foot concept. He gets to drag and step when he chooses.
Minor is a nice player. Rataj disappears at times. Once the Beavs went up 13, everyone stopped playing aggressive. SC is shooting their way back into the game.
Still time to settle down and win it. 7 min left and 1 point game
these jokers also continually DO NOT get back on defense after a made basket and give up an easy layup or dunk. It was a problem Thursday night against Pepperdine and continues to be a problem today.
Run their asses in practice until they puke.
72-64 Beavs with 2:45 left. Rataj is really a very talented player…the best player on the floor.
Rataj has been absolutely clutch in the last few minutes. Cold blooded performance.
81-69 the “jokers” are closing them out so the Beavs withstood a final push..still 33 secs left.
Beavs win 83-69. Good W
Rataj went off again. It’s kind of weird to see the Beavs so clutch, but it’s nice to see.
Hopefully, we fork out some nice NIL $$$ for Rataj bc teams are going to go after him.
83-69 “jokers” win……the announcers sure like the beavers team and I do too.
I get it. But this team is jekyll and Hyde. Until they are more consistent? They aren’t gonna make.the NCAA tournament unless they win the WCC tournament.
Road games are a crapshoot. And getting back on defense is about making an effort
Rataj might be the best player in the WCC. He is certainly strengthening his case.
Good to get a convincing win against a team that is a few spots above us in the NET. Next week’s game at Gonzaga is a low pressure chance to make a statement. A loss doesn’t really hurt us, but a close loss or a win is massive.
WBB down 30-27 half to Pacific and it’s uglier basketball than you could imagine.
TO’s: Beavs 12, Tyges 10…..Steals 8 n 8……..ugly
50-42 Beavs start of the 4th. Kennedie Shuler has a real adventure every time she goes to the FT line. Las time she went, first one drew air and the second was good. She’s about 57% on the season and that’s about as bad as I’ve seen especially for your PG.
60-60 Beavs ball 23 secs left but they’re a turnover machine tonight.
TO’s: 19 n 19……ugly
Shuler has fouled on a 3 point play twice tonight and and another on a 3 point play.
Looks like it’s going OT as AJ misses an 9 footer on the baseline with 1 sec left ball to Pacific
Overtime and the beavers really look sloppy tonight.
Down 2 in OT with 40 secs left Beavs ball but they really suck bad tonight
4.8 left Beavs down ,67-66 Beavs ball for a shot to win it!
Beavs lose as I figured 67-66. Beavs really sucked bad tonight.
Complete bs no call at end, should had 2 fouls called on pacific. Just garbage officiating
Too many turnovers and missed opportunities tonight. Beavs probably get that call at home but not on the road. Beavers played terrible tonight so…..
MBB up to 54 NET. We have wins against two teams above us: Gonzaga (15) and UCI (50). We need to add SMC to that list.
Gonzaga’s MET ranking is a good example of the value of avoiding bad losses. They have no ranked wins. Their record against Q1/Q2 is 4-6 vs our 3-5.
SMC is interesting, too. Still haven’t played Gonzaga or us, the two teams directly behind them in the WCC.
You forgot about San Francisco. Currently in 3rd
Good catch. SMC still has to play them on the road, which is another tough matchup. SF at home has been their toughest conference game to date.
Beavs have a decent shot at finishing 7-2 in the last 9 games to come. It would get them to 23-8 on the season.
If they win 2 in WCC tourney they would be 25-9 and maybe 3rd in WCC. Bubble team for tourney?
Finishing 7-2 probably puts us in second, maybe first. It’s going to be tight at the top unless SMC just sweeps everyone, but they remain pretty much untested at this point.
7-2 will not put the Beavs in first. St Mary’s has some tough road games coming up, but no way do they go 5-5 the rest of the way.
It depends on who we beat and lose to in that sequence. They haven’t played Gonzaga yet either.
They’ll have to get the NET ranking below 40 to at least be considered for an at large imo.
I think 50 is about the cut-off, since most conference champions already fall within that number.
Outliers (like us in 21) would be what bumps us off a bubble like that, should we ever get there.
The biggest problem right now is the SEC. They are likely going to get 10 or more at large bids. That doesn’t leave a lot of room. I think the Beavs are going to need to pick up some big wins down the stretch. I think we need to win 2 of our next 3 and beat San Fran at home. I think 7-2 is the only way to get in the conversation.
I hope Rueck has some serious recruits lined up for the future bc this team is razor thin on talent. Hopefully, he goes the international route for players and mix it in with a few HS players from the US…
Last night, the team looked like they did during their 1-5 start this season..
I hope Rueck has some serious recruiting strategies moving forward as this team is razor thin on talent. Hopefully, he uses a similar path to tinkle and international players and a few HS players from the US.
Last night, this team looked like it has regressed.
In Rueck we trust. WBB is in good hands with him. He lost 8 players off of a top 5 team staring down a final four run as a bunch of underclassmen. He wasn’t recruiting to rebuild last season so what he is doing right now is pretty good. Give him a break and don’t hyperventilate about WBB. Rueck has rebuilt the roster multiple times and if he is in the rebuild mode, when recruiting, he can rebuild the roster in a 2 season cycle. You are losing perspective about how much left from last year’s squad with really very little time to respond for the staff.
Seems to me ohiobeav is correct. I’d be interested in learning the logic behind the downvote.
Who is hyperventilating? I merely said I hope he’s got some good recruiting lined up bc this team is very thin on talent. I’ve had season tickets for WBB and he seems to always have quality talent, not the most gifted athletically or physically, but he knows how to get the most put of his team. I’m fully aware of what happened to last year’s team as I went to every home game but with the changing environment via the portal and NIL and requires a different approach than in the past.
You’re reading way too much into my very brief comment about recruiting. I’m very good friends with a former WBB coach and his daughter played for Rueck and he agreed that the recruiting strategy will have to adjust to the current landscape.
This is a transition year as I think most fans know, but I have yet to hear or see any recruits that have committed to 2026 and beyond.
Given the Beavs are losing at least 3 players from the current roster and maybe 4, there will be some major roles to fill. Those aren’t criticisms of Rueck but they are facts.
And 3 out of the 4 players running out of eligibility are starters including two bigs in the front line.
So you’re telling us that you know 4 key players/starters are gone after this year and you don’t know if Rueck is aware of this development? You just ripped the level of talent on the roster and now you are panicking that 25% of the roster is gone.
You are the guy posting about the roster lacking talent and moaning that Rueck needs to have some plan or it will get even worse. No kidding. And who cares if you have had season tickets and know somebody who used to coach. Don’t try to flex when your comment was the epitome of hyperventilating on a blog.
Coach Rueck and Coach Eli will settle things down.
Your comments don’t even warrant a response other than what I’ve previously stated. You sound like you just want to argue so good luck with that.
Rueck started his tenure scouting volleyball players as walk ons, by year four he had the beavs in the tournament and two years later he had a final four team. Let’s go easy on the ‘he needs to figure out how to build a roster’ hyperbole.
Fuckin’ Chiefs.
And refs… another week, another game tainted by multiple sketchy calls that favored the Chiefs.
Here’s hoping the Eagles and Saquon run all over them.
Die Eagles die
https://is.gd/uSU7ln
Apparently,there is a recruiting surprise coming this afternoon for football.
https://247sports.com/Player/lamarcus-bell-46143847/
https://x.com/Lamarcusbell4/status/1883968228424311280
That’s a huge get for the beavers and looks like I was right with a RB but just not the one I was speculating it could be.
I guess being at the Gonzaga game helped!
Pretty cool to land an in-state guy of this caliber. However, in this day and age it means nothing until he’s on campus.
But, but, he’s “100% committed!”
In this day and age they have to be at least 2000%, if not more, before you can feel assured
More like $200k committed….
I wonder if the surprise could be a former beaver that transfered has decided to return? Jam Griffin made a return visit and I just wonder if another former beaver RB has decided to do the same? I guess we will find out today according to a well connected source to beaver recruiting.
Update on realignment…..according to the latest podcast I just listened to,but looks like March is the timeframe for a media rights agreement and the addition of Texas State. North Texas and UTSA are still likely candidates to be added too but no timetable given. UNLV and the PAC are still having ongoing discussions about the possibility of bringing UNLV into the PAC but most likely hinges on the GOR media deal the PAC secures. Despite UNLV MOU with the MWC, they still have the option to seek other opportunities should those offered be made available.
So, it sounds like right now the chances of landing UNLV are still good but really depends on the media deal the PAC lands. The Texas schools sound like it’s just a matter of time.arcj is just around the corner so we won’t have to wait too much longer for the 8th member to join…
I certainly hope UNLV joins bc of its TV market, recruiting and potential to play the PAC championship game at Allegiant Stadium..
Memphis and Tulane are the real prizes. All the other schools dilute competitiveness. If TX schools can help sway Memphis and Tulane, great, but that shouldn’t be the endgame.
UNLV makes sense geographically, but it would be better for us to keep them in a lower tier conference to give us a recruiting advantage in LV. They are a poorly managed AD and not an historically strong conference member.
I think the plan is to keep the PAC as geographically connected as close to the West coast time zone as possible. While the Texas schools aren’t on the West coast, they’re in a large TV market that will help with a GOR TV and/or streaming agreement.
From what I’ve read, Memphis was very interested in a PAC alignment, but I think they’re waiting on a media deal which makes sense. Memphis and Tulane have solid football programs and adding Memphis could very well make the new PAC one of the best,big not the best, basketball conferences in the country.
But first things first and that is getting a GOR deal done and then adding TX State. Once the media deal is done, u think the other dominoes fall into place all subject to the media deal the conference gets.
I do agree that Memphis and Tulane would be great adds but Texas is a huge TV market and great for recruiting.
Honestly, remaining an Independent sounds better than this future conference. Ugh.
From a media rights deal, that would clearly diminish the value of the PAC and really hurt recruiting. If OSU was a blue blood, that’s a different story but they aren’t and remaining independent would not be a smart financial budget decision…it is difficult enough to find options on schedules for three non conference games let alone 12. The plan still remains to rebuild the PAC into a power 4 conference so we will see how that shakes out but it’s clear that is not the ultimate goal for the PAC.
This is NOT a power conference, not even close. And with every announcement it gets weaker.
They had an opportunity to bring back a round robin, without a round robin I think I am just out on conference college sports now.
Sheesh – varying Huang’s reported losses today. I’ll go with 21billion. Better he had donated at least a tiny fraction of that to the Beavs.
Looks like the AI bubble is over.
Thinking about the possible realignment schools and I just wonder how much a media deal would need to be for at least 4 of the traitors to return. When is there an internal revolt among the non football sports that forces some reconsideration?
Once each sport experiences the travel grind this season, they may have some issues retaining those athletes.
I wonder if there are some feelers and quiet conversations with UCLA, Cal, Utah and maybe Washington. They all have signed up for perennial middle of the pack in their new conferences, but with a little extra cash and a lot more travel. Of course, if any of them wanted to return, it would be a kiss the ring moment with full capitulation and complete acknowledgement of their evil deeds, along with a steep exit fee for the next time they are tempted.
None of the Testicles-less traitors will return anytime soon and why would anyone want any of them back. They knifed the beavers in the back once and would do it again if the $$$ was right. They are dead to the PAC and absolutely no ongoing discussions for them to return even if the ACC implodes and Stanford and Cal no longer have a conference. They all moved on and the beavers and COUGS and the rest of the PAC have too. Good riddance and nothing but bad vibes and hoping lots of losses in their future.
I’d make an exception for Cal.
They are forced to take the money, simply because of circumstances.
They’re getting $50m over the next 5 years from UCLA so that softens some of the financial hit of the zero they get from a media deal from the ACC. According to the podcast, they are pretty much adamant that if the ACC implodes, Cal and Stanford will seek to join either the B12 or B10 but not the PAC12. I guess time will tell but I certainly wouldn’t take them back for the reason I previously stated and they really don’t offer much in terms of market size or strong programs with the exception of maybe WBB and baseball
I don’t care about Furd.
I’m not sure how much interest FOX or ESPN have in Cal. FOX wouldn’t pay for either, and ESPN was upset with the ACC for taking advantage of their pro-rata additions.
I can see them coming up with a partial share in the Big XIIIIII, just to keep them from joining us, though. SMU would be screwed, because I don’t see TCU voting them in.
I also wonder about how both schools feel about some of those conference mates. I imagine there are some places the LSJUMB probably won’t be invited.
Football schedule revised, moved Wake Forest up from Oct. 25 to Oct. 11. Their first bye is now Oct. 25, eight games into season.
Aug. 30: California
Sept. 6: Fresno State
Sept. 13: at Texas Tech
Sept. 20: at Oregon
Sept. 27: Houston
Oct. 4: at Appalachian State
Oct 11: Wake Forest
Oct. 18: Lafayette
Oct. 25: bye
Nov. 1: Washington State
Nov. 8: Sam Houston State
Nov. 15: at Tulsa
Nov. 22: bye
Nov. 29: at Washington State
Those first seven games are tough. They might win two or three.
OSU WBB getting dominated by Wsu bigs and WSU must have at least 7-8 blocks in the first half.
37-18….
42-21….yes, this team is on fire.
You misspelled “this team is a dumpster fire”
They certainly looked the part for the first three quarters but nearly pulled off a major comeback in the 4th quarter.
48-29, 4 minutes left in the 3rd.
Beavs making a late surge 56-45 with about 4.5 min left in the game
61-56 Wsu with 45 secs left beaver ball. Great comeback after trailing by 25 in the ,3rd quarter
61-57 with 45 secs left Wsu ball.
Well, they made it close at the end but Wsu up by 6 points with 18.5 secs left. Tough loss but they showed lots of toughness down by 25.
As painful as the season has been for WBB, they have a number of great learning opportunities and seem to have little quit. Add talent this off season, and they’ll improve markedly.
Man that was a tough game to sit through, just ugly until half way through the 4th quarter.
At one point wazzu had 42 points and were 10 of 13 on 3pt shots while the beavs were something like 2 of 10, and something like 27% on FGs, just abysmal shooting and no answer for the cougs hot hand on the outside. Blech
Heidi and Rees were fine complementary pieces/depth on a stacked squad but just so inept as primary options in the low post. Blech
There haven’t been a lot of home games this year and I’ve missed half of them at that, honestly the most quiet I’ve heard (not heard) the crowd in Gill at a WBB game in years. You could literally hear their coaches talking cross court at certain points during the game.
It was good to see them finally show up late in the game, too little, too late but the fight was impressive given the circumstances.
Be careful, bc there are some overly sensitive fans in here and they’ll take exception to your comments. That said, I agree with the assessment on the talent this team lacks. Complimentary players is pretty accurate, but I’m not sure any of them would break the starting lineup for any of the previous PAC 12 teams that jumped ship.
For what Rueck has to work with this season, he’s done a good job of making the competitive as they’ve lost several close games.
Last night they were a no show for the first three quarters and nearly pulled it out of the fire. Rueck has major holes to fill next year so hopefully he’s got some talented players coming in via the portal, HS and/or international players.
Right on all counts. If they were in the “old” PAC-12, they would be at or very near the bottom and getting blown out most of the time. Rueck has done a remarkable job with this squad. I just hope he doesn’t bolt, because this is going to take at least 2-3 years to get even close to last year’s team, if that is even possible. And it’s certainly not going to happen with a PG that shoots 11% from 3 point range, 57% from the free throw line, and who has more turnovers than assists. That’s a recipe for mediocrity.
Fighting Stinkles and his defenseless jokers have another opportunity for a statement road win tonight in Spokane.
The early prediction says Gonzaga has watched tape of the last 2 games and scores several easy buckets on a run out after a made FG by the Beavs.
Zags by double digits
Tinkle dancing in his office pre game…”Some people call me the space cowboy, some call me the gangsta of love…
I’m a joker
I’m a smoker
I’m a midnight toker
I sure don’t want to hurt no one…”
Go Beavers! Impress us!
Then Tinkle surely knows that is what they are doing and will adjust accordingly.
Don’t know why I’m so focused on it, but the snippets and rumors about the media deal have me fascinated. That everyone who is in the know keeps talking about an innovative way of broadcasting is cool and all. There was a rumor a couple weeks ago about the CW “lowballing” the Pac with $7m per school. The source was some clickbait YT talking heads. But they also said, “for second and third tier rights,” before they started guffawing at the Pac only getting as much as the ACC. Let’s just say these guys aren’t geniuses.
$7m per for that package lines up with the rumors that the deal will be segmented. That means a primary partner will pay more for the first tier rights.
So the rumors the total deal could be pushing $20m would have some merit. But what’s so innovative about that?
The best pitch I could come up with is someone like CBS getting two games a week in first tier. CW would get the rest of the games, but instead of picking two and tossing the rest to their app, the Pac produces all games, and CW broadcasts the games in a RSN format–meaning hypothetical TXST v SDSU would be available OTA in the Texas and SD markets, while us and CSU would be available in Oregon and Colorado.
If you’re an alum living outside any of these markets or want to binge on more conference games, you can subscribe to a streaming partner who will simulcast all games then park them on demand.
We pretty much do what the NFL does with regional distribution, get a couple national broadcasts, and have access to on demand product, all at the same time.
It’s not really innovative, since the NFL does this. But it’s innovative in that we can actually do this on the college level, because we have that capability.
With this in mind, CBS would get first tier, CW gets second and third tier, with us being their RSN production. HBO Max (think:Turner) gets the streaming portion.
Except for CW, who is just getting into sports, they all lost major content recently and are looking for inventory.
And we can produce their other events, as well, limited as they are. They do have March Madness until 2032. So that is an immediate opportunity.
No idea what the true numbers will be, but if someone as dim as me can create this hypothetical platform, I am a little intrigued to find out what the platform will look like.
I’m hearing somewhere between $13-15M per school but that figure didn’t take into account any tiered media deal…if CBS, CW and a streaming service. I don’t think we will have to wait too much longer for the media deal and the 8th football member to join the PAC. If it was in the $18M-20M range, that will open up some doors I think for Memphis and Tulane if the PAC wants to expand into other time zones…
The original number given by Memphis was $12-15m per. But that was before we went to negotiations. Rumors are that was low. But I think they were advised that’s the value if we sold all rights to one buyer… most likely an ESPN type.
The segmenting isn’t new. The original ESPN offer was only $20m from them. FOX would’ve bought some games for $5m per, bringing it to $25m. But that never guaranteed OTA distribution or that we’d not end up fishing on ESPN+ for all our games.
Having CBS broadcast guaranteed OTA and allowing them to use Paramount for simulcast and on demand for the games they do buy (in all sports) is the first tier. CW doing the same, but maximizing viewership by distribution in regions would be second and third tier. And cooperation with a streaming service in giving more access and archiving inventory makes everything accessible in some form to the wider audience.
There should also be some opportunity for more revenue, based on subscriptions and activity online. I imagine the streamer getting last pick only has so much value, while competing with OTA, regionally. But it’s a place I would go during hoops and baseball seasons. And they need a hoops audience. The addition of the Pac would compliment the scraps of Big XIIIIII hoops they got in their settlement and their coverage of March Madness.
But enough fantasy. We’ll just see when we see.
The cool thing is, the PAC doesn’t need a media partner that is vertically integrated bc as you’ve pointed out on more than one occasion, the PAC has its legacy network with all of the bells and whistles. The only thing the PAC really needs is a distribution partner. The PAC can do the production and save money at the same time…
I think it’s a very good opportunity for the conference and any media partner whether it’s streaming on traditional networks, but I do like the idea of a tiered media deal.
I like your line of though Jack. There could also be the added elements of the George K/Apple proposal that would benefit individual schools based on subscriptions too, which would also be a fluid number, but each school would have a bit more self interest to gain growing the fanbase.
Ways in which such a “media deal” would differ from waiting for ESPN to hand over a big bag of cash:
-multi-platform
-tiered
-streaming
-PAC produced rights to sell big matchups
-In-house production gives added value to any media partner
-unequal distribution of post-season payouts
-subscripton model for each school to gain in media payout $$
-regional simulcast option
-CW, CBS, Turner, Amazon, Apple, Google TV, all looking for live sports content
-regain control of kick-off sanity and not capitulate to ESPN/Fox
Summary: Multiple media partners contribute to a media plan that is flexible, produced in-house, multi-tiered, locally specific for each team, streamable for playbacks and live, accessible worldwide due to streaming simulcast, OTA available for purchase rights to networks, subscription based element for added revenue bonuses for any school that enhances market-share and following, weighted distribution for post-season success and payouts.
I’d guess this could get each school $25-$30 million/year as a combination over time. It just may not look like other media agreements look, and as such, many will panic or reject the idea.
It must be a new concept to challenge and even undermine the existing paradigm of “ESPN and a big bag of cash directing all things.”
Apparently, the flu bug has hit the MBB team and two players are game time decisions.
Is that a leak from the Tinkle camp as a precautionary storyline in case of a 40 point loss at Gonzaga? Not argumentative at all, just speculative…and slightly jaded.
I guess we will know game time, but I don’t expect the Beavs to win even at full strength but at least be competitive.
^This
They weren’t going to win anyways. If true Gonzaga by 20+
So you expect the Beavs win on the road vs Gonzaga? Lol
Sluuuuuuurp
I’ll take that as a yes.
Youre a genius
Would you be more concerned if it was Monkeypox?
In true Beaver fan. and a glutton for punishment, I will watch the game tonight. I know there is no shot Beavs can stay within 20 of Gonzaga in Spokane, but on the off-chance the Fighting Tinkles have a miracle in them, I will watch it.
Isaac Seumalo gets in pro bowl as an alternate:
“In another roster change, Pittsburgh Steelers guard and former Oregon State standout Isaac Seumalo will make his first Pro Bowl appearance, replacing Kansas City’s Trey Smith.”
4 of 5 starters are sick
But they’re all playing from what I can see.
Gonzaga certainly plays tough at home. Beavs aren’t playing badly but Gonzaga looks like they want to trade that loss to the Beavs. If the Beavs can stay in touch, they will make a game of it but if they get down by 15-18, it’ll be a tough night.
Beavs playing alright. Gonzaga is just taking it to them. Again we are giving up some horrendous offensive boards. To give up two free throws, an offensive rebound and a three by the same possession. Oof can’t be giving up 5 point possessions on the road.
Gonzaga is on fire from the field. They must be hitting around 55-56%.
That second foul that put Rataj on the bench was a pathetic call. Since he left the game, the Beavs offense has gone south.
It honestly looks like we caught Gonzaga off guard the first time we played them and they were much more prepared for us this time around. They have turned this into a flogging early. And the Beavs haven’t really played too horribly. Missed some gimmes and fumbled some rebounds away. They need to make some defensive adjustments. Maybe come out with some 1-3-1 to start the second.
sitting Rataj after a 2nd foul with 7 mins remaining in 1st half is as bad of a game theory coaching decision as one could make.
Probably was due to the flu that members of the team was exposed to
Gonzaga shot 62% and I’d be surprised if they repeat that in the second half.
I was listening to a sports betting show on satellite radio. The Beav/Zags game was featured. One talking head said the play was talking Gonzaga and the over for just the first half. Sounds like he was spot on. What was funny is that the other dude said “Wayne Tinkle is still the coach at Oregon St, how?”. It made me laugh out loud.
I’m sorry guys. I couldn’t get through the first half. The unprepared and overwhelmed vibe the Fighting Tinkles exhibit on the road is fairly unwatchable.
Not impressed, but I guess 4 of the 5 starters have the flu and could barely walk this morning because they were so sick. Tinkle is a champion for encouraging them to even try to play. Blah blah…give Tinkle a break for this embarrassing loss, I guess?
Beavs getting taken to the woodshed down by 25 so I think I’ll probably tap out for the rest bc it appears the Beavs have tapped out too.
When I mentioned a possible 40 pt loss, I was only joking. Beavs took it to heart and are going for it though. Yikes.
98 points. Defenseless jokers indeed
It’s a story as old as time. Get your hopes up only to show a responding thud.
“The positive, Tinkle said, was the improvement of freshman forward Maxim Logue. His minutes have increased in recent games, and Tuesday was no different. Logue scored a career-high 10 points and grabbed five rebounds in 12 minutes of action.
“Max was the one guy who competed and is getting better and better,” Tinkle said. “If he keeps working hard, his minutes are going to keep going up, because we’ve got to get back to where we have the inside-out balance.”
Any truth to the rumor the Beavers had several ill players?
yet only 4/10 on FT’s. Tsk tsk
Not that it would’ve mattered in a 38 point blow out. In a close game those things matter
Yeah.
Those FTs were clinker. But at least he was getting to the line… and made a couple nice FTs. So we know he can at least show some touch.
Maybe Lake can work with him.
“…was the one guy who competed”. There Tinkle goes again throwing his players under the bus. He’s been doing that since the beginning.
I’ve never understood why people consider him likeable.
Illness… and the bus broke down at the hotel, and the whole team took Ubers to the arena.
At least no one pulled the fire alarm at 2am?
praise a player to the detriment of other team members. This is the point in the season when the players realize Tinkle will blame them for all and they play accordingly. At season’s end, is his buyout affordable?
Precisely. They were boat-raced as a team. It is foolish to try to find some positive for public consumption to try and save face.
New era? QB commit Tristan Tia just got an UPWARD Beaver bump to 4-star. Nice!
Another 4* on the roster….nice…it may also end up in him getting more attention and recruiting, and will be interesting to see how long he stays.
Lots of talent and stars in that QB room this fall with MM, GJ, KG and now TT.
One would hope with an increase in potential talent in that unit that competition will be more fierce.
https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/unlv-and-nevada-floated-as-potential-additions-to-round-out-the-pac-12
This is just a story about Clownzano guessing a bunch of stuff… and referring to his past guesses as “recent rumors” that support his new guesses.
Sometimes I think I’m in the wrong business.
Blast that pigeon
St Mary’s gets their first real road test tonight with a game at Santa Clara. No real significant games tomorrow, but Saturday evening gives us a pair as Wazzu plays at San Francisco and we get Gonzaga at St Mary’s.
Stinkles jokers are off until a week from tomorrow.
Filling the void
Baseball in Surprise 2 weeks from Friday!!!!
Article in GT today pumping up the new baseball hitting facility, lots of words that didn’t say much except doubles hitting lanes, now they have a dedicated space just for them, players are liking it and it’s best in class. Diamond dinner just happened…Anyone been able to get a tour?
FWIW…..John Canzano had some interesting comments on his most recent podcast regarding where the P12 is headed. He expects an announcement on or about March 17 about the next addition to the conference. He said, and this is something I completely overlooked in my recent comments, and that’s reaching a settlement with the MWC on exit fees for current members. He expects a settlement that will be very favorable for the PAC12 bc they believe they have a good legal standing against the Mwc and some of their current members do too.
The settlement is likely to be significantly reduced from $17M down to $10M ballpark. The impact on this reduction means the Mwc wil have significantly reduced revenues that could affect the money offered to UNLV and others to stay in the Mwc.
At the same time, the P12 is close to finalizing a media deal that could potentially bring in $15-18M that would certainly be much more attractive for UNLV and other teams like Nevada to accept an offer by the PAC12.
So the major hold up is the legal settlement and once that is resolved, a media deal and new member(s) will be announced. Again, things look very favorable for the PAC12 to get UNLV and Nevada if the PAC12 wants to keep a western geographic footprint. It sounds like the Texas schools are almost a lock to join so that would put the conference at 12 schools again.
As far as the media rights deal, JC alluded to some innovative type of deal that sounds a tiered media deal with potentially Apple, the CW and the a network. He didn’t go into specifics but said it sounded like something that hasn’t been done before in college athletics. So Jack might be onto something with the tiered deal.
The PAC12 presidents are very excited about the pac12 enterprises and a great opportunity to generate a new revenue source.
So, all in all, things sound like they are moving in the right direction and the PAC12 could come out of this realignment nightmare smelling like a rose. FWIW per JC.
Which Podcast was it or which number? Assuming it was Canzano and Wilner?
I like the sound of 15-18 million for media rights. Basically would give us our pic of any non P4 school.
I’m not an expert but I did some back of the napkin stuff as well as some hand jiving and the media deal that makes sense is $9-11 M. I based that on the average $/football viewer the BIG 12 and ACC got in 2024 and then applied it to the viewers the new pac teams and possible pac teams had in 2024. Depending on whether you add Memphis, Tulane or Texas St or all three it varies but 9-11 million is the number.
Hope Canzano is right for once.
It was a JC podcast of you search YouTube. Just look for the most recent info on PAC12 realignment. We shall see but UNLV got a much better deal to stay than 9-11m between 10-14m for 2025 but if they lose the legal case, that money will take a hit.
I think $15-18M is more realistic but we shall see…
Apparently, Chance Nolan is in the NY Yankees system as a pitcher. That’s kind of cool for him
Good for him. He won’t have to deal with throwing multiple soul crushing interceptions playing baseball.
Wonder if he ever got glasses?
Go for the full Ryne Duren look.
Wonder how many AB’s get the Ryne Duren reference? Upvote me if you do….sadly I’m old enough to know.
Ricky Vaughn is an homage to him, and Ryne Sandberg is named after him.
This is what I get for collecting Topps as a kid.
Question: how often are college coaches visiting high schools? My son is a sophomore and is currently 6’4 275. This week coaches from 2 lower end D1 schools were at his HS and he was called down to the football office to “met” the coaches, really nothing more than handshake given rules surrounding communication with players his age and saying that they’ll follow up in the spring (when communication rules change)
Never gone through the recruiting process, I’m trying to understand how common this is? Does his happen regularly or should my son be excited/movitate that he may have real opportunities to play at the next level.
He should be excited! Either his high school coach thinks he’s a prospect or the coaches have heard of your son and wanted to meet him. But a long ways to go in the process.
a resource to help with the process,
https://www.ncsasports.org/football
We live in TN and looking at camp schedules. Thinking about some of the smaller D1 (WKU, UTC…etc) close to home. My understanding is unless you are specifically invited the larger camps, they are a cash grab and waste of time. I’d love to coordinate family vacation with an OSU camp for my own personal bias, but we will see.
On the cynical side of things, I was thinking you could buy him a 4* with several recruiting sites too, and get him some exposure at the big camps, depending on how much you want to spend. A lot of it is who knows you and who do they know. Which explains why there are a lot of under the radar kids in FCS and D2 that still make it to the NFL.
We are blessed, and we will be able to afford college regardless of football and any money we are investing is in our son development and not recruiting leaches. He has strength and position coaches. He works with two former NFL linemen (Kyle Turley and King Dunlap)
If we plays well, we live in a recruiting hot bed (Nashville) I believe he will be seen.
Mainly, I hope these meetings motivate him to continue to work hard.
Keep him working hard so he gets the scholarship. Then use the money you saved from him getting a scholarship to travel to all of his games!
That is true. If a kid is a good prospect, they’ll get invites to camps and the coaches will be all over them. They might invite the whole team just to get the one kid to come.
Also make a hudl site with highlights and we’ll evaluate him here on this site and give him our star rating!
You could always go full “Coach Prime Mode” and do a lot of crazy antics hyping your son all over social media, wearing a big cowboy hat and sunglasses, while talking about how proud you are that your son is such a great football player…just kidding.
Or just play it real cool, enjoy it with him and see what happens as he matures. Encourage him to work hard and not to expect something to just be handed to him etc. Also, don’t trust much of what coaches say while recruiting. It is ultimately a numbers game for most of them and they need to have a certain amount of options along with plan A, plan B, plan C and so on. If he gets a scholarship anywhere, it is a great achievement and opportunity. Don’t look down on the small school experience either, if it comes to that. Hopefully you connect with the right school, right coaches, right system for his future beyond football and it prepares him for life after football as well.
Tell him to bring his lunch pail to OSU and prepare for bear crawls in preparation for a PAC championship!
My son is a senior all-conference linebacker at the 6-A level here in Oregon. D-2 and D-3 coaches are visiting a lot this time of year and meeting players. My son has not received any D-1 interest. He was injured his junior year and had not yet developed his sophomore season. Your son has time on his side. My boy does have a couple of D-3 offers, with one being Linfield which is one of the premier D-3 programs in the West. The funny thing is that he’s not sure he wants to keep playing football if it’s at that level. He really wants to go to OSU. He’s trying to figure out how to walk on.
Chase the dream while it is within reach. He should try to walk on at OSU and become another great story at OSU.
He’s been accepted as a student, his high school coach is trying to find information on how to walk on. He’s decent size at 6’1 210lbs.
He can be the next Jackhammer and flirt with the hot sideline reporters!
Is he fast enough to play safety? Or do you think he adds weight and plays OLB?
I wish OSU could get a few safety prospects north of 200 lbs that can run…but I suppose every team wants that. Kane at 180 just isn’t cutting it at DI…
Best of luck to him! If that’s his dream, cool, chase it! I hope he has sound, fundamental tackling skills, that would help distinguish him.
He was clocked at a 4.8 last summer—an excellent tackler, leading his conference. He also had 15 TFLs and 5 sacks, the best defensive player on a bad team. Was also 2nd team TE, but undersized for that position. Going on his 4th year of Rugby. His Rugby coach thinks he could play in the MLR.
Playing TN is definitely an advantage when it comes to being seen. We have a ton of lower FBS and FCS programs in the surrounding area. We also live in talent rich county that produces 8-10 P4 players ever year. Our largest rival sent 4 kids to P4 this year (UT, Arkansas, Louisville, and Wake Forest)
You should be excited, if he wants to keep playing at that level. You should also do your due diligence on any coaches/schools approaching him.
Were they position coaches? If they were HCs, I’d be a little more excited. But it’s already gone well past their scouts talking to all his various coaches, if even position coaches are there.
So if he’s motivated, he should know that everyone who is helping him train and play have said very good things about him and believe in his potential.
Furman gets my endorsement, if they contact him. I know they recruit the Nashville area heavily. Great academics, great football program (from what I hear), they have a strong alumni network throughout the SE, especially in business, finance, and law and have added a lot of career readiness resources in recent years. Greenville is a great place to live, too.
St Marys had no problem winning at Santa Clara. 30-0! Run to end the first half and start the 2nd ended any hope for the Broncos
A basketball team that can win on the road? Never knew such a thing could exist.
That Nebby loss is looking worse every week. Children of the corn have lost 6 in a row. Gonna be 7 after they lose in Eugene this weekend.
Nolan with a chance to play in the Yankees organization:
“He appeared in seven games as a relief pitcher, earning one save in 3 1/3 innings. Nolan was erratic, walking nine batters, but he recorded a 2.70 ERA and three strikeouts for the Mustangs.
It was, apparently, enough to pique Nolan’s baseball interest. He went on to train at Driveline, a data-driven baseball development facility in Seattle, to fine-tune his mechanics and prepare for MLB scouts.
On Jan. 20, Nolan participated in an individual throwing session during Driveline’s pro day, impressing scouts with a four-pitch arsenal that included a 97 mph fastball. Eight days later, he signed with the Yankees, continuing his unlikely path from Beavers quarterback to professional baseball player.
Nolan presumably will join the organization next month for spring training workouts.”
DJU would be wise to look into this transition as well. Unfortunately, he has little chance of making it in the NFL.
Makes you wonder if Mitch has any former qbs on the pitching staff who might need to switch to football, rather than the other way around.
Tinkles oldest daughter is an assistant coach for Pepperdine. Beavs lead 35-26 almost halftime.
Lady’s finally get a win
Seems like Jade Carey deserves a bigger role as a representative of OSU Athletics….maybe she doesn’t want it or have time?
“Carey is having a spectacular senior season coming off a multiple medal performance at the 2024 Olympics in Paris. Carey ranks No. 1 nationally in all-around, with a high score of 39.8. Among individual events, Carey ranks No. 1 on balance beam, No. 3 on uneven bars, tied for fourth on floor exercise and No. 16 on vault.”
She’s going to Carey…carry the team.
All around excellence.
Beaming with pride.
“OSU athletic director Scott Barnes told The Oregonian/OregonLive that Bray is not receiving additional compensation as defensive coordinator. Bray’s 2025 salary is $2 million, plus bonuses.
Oregon State’s assistant coach salary expenditure for 2025 is also under budget because the staff includes several young coaches who are making $250,000. Outside linebackers coach Kharyee Marshall and tight ends coach Will Heck are full-time FBS assistants for the first time.
Marshall, Heck and running backs coach Ray Pickering, all new to the OSU coaching staff, have two-year deals that run through the end of the 2026 season. The remaining seven coaches are working on second year of a two-year contract. None were reworked after the season.
Here are the 2025 assistant coaching salaries:
Ryan Gunderson (OC/QB): $725,000
Kyle Devan (OL): $600,000
Kefense Hynson (WR): $420,000
Ilaisa Tuiaki (DL): $350,000
Rod Chance (DB): $350,000
Jamie Christian (ST): $300,000
Kharyee Marshall (OLB): $250,000
Ray Pickering (RB): $250,000
AJ Cooper (DB): $250,000
Will Heck (TE): $250,000”
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2025/01/oregon-states-2025-assistant-coaches-salaries-trent-bray-bonuses.html
This is a pretty green coaching staff overall HC, OC, OL, …some newcomers to full time coaching.
And on to bonuses:
“In the contract Bray signed in November 2023, he has numerous bonuses that can increase his financial compensation next season. There are win bonuses of 10+ games ($75,000), nine wins ($50,000), eight wins ($25,000), Oregon ($25,000), any top 25 team ($25,000). A bowl berth is worth $25,000, a College Football Playoff berth $150,000, CFP championship game appearance $250,000, and CFP championship $300,000.
Other bonuses are national coach of the year ($100,000), team APR of 975+ ($25,000), and team GPA of 3.00 ($25,000). The GPA bonus can be shared with staff members.”
All quiet on the “analyst with HC experience front.” We must have not gotten our guy.
Quick! Change the subject!
Bray is waiting for Charlie Wiess to sign the contract. We can finally out-scheme everybody.
And out eat everyone
Yeah that fat fuck on the sideline? Quite the example in discipline. NO THANKS.
Lots of DC positions open right now. His guy is probably interviewing with someone.
Oklahoma was looking for the same type of position, and it looks like they hired a LB coach, and Venables will do what Bray is doing… probably grooming the new hire to take over.
He doesn’t get the benefit of being in limbo for a year.
Beavs WBB up 29-11 in the second quarter…St Marys has an overall winning record 11-9 and 7-4…
58-34 Beavs start of 4th quarter. Shuler is playing very well along with Rees and Heide. I gotta say that Shuler has really become much more aggressive on offense and is blowing by defenders and finishing. Basically, he first step and the defender is on her heels.
Kennedie has always had those quick feet, her soccer background really shows through. Her problem was finishing going to the rim and her outside shot. Her drives to the basket has improved but she still can’t hit a bucket from anywhere else on the floor.
that was a fun game to watch,
Shuler has really improved her offensive game.
Beavs WBB 80-45 over St Mary ‘s.
St Marys held off Gonzaga tonight to stay unbeaten in the WCC
Funny headline to read “Hurley says Arizona has no class in controversial ending”
Luka to the Lakers- Is the NBA real at all? I don’t really like the NBA but another blockbuster trade in the Lakers favor when they have a trash roster is suspicious.
I’m not. They traded tbe wrong guy. If they want to improve that roster they should get rid of lebron
Seems like a “stunning blockbuster!” that won’t meaningfully improve either team’s ability to win a championship? No one involved has long term deals, both are in the west, there’s likely other roster weaknesses unaddressed….Durant to Brooklyn to Phoenix hasn’t worked…I guess they try to capitalize on James’ last year and hope they get hot in the playoffs, then maybe build around Luka in the longer term and let James walk? I dunno, i don’t even watch them or really care. It’s more mild curiosity than anything.
OKC has good management and resultant roster, but they haven’t quite broken through. Too bad that manager and team didn’t stay in SEA.
Former Beav Kylor Kelly just sign on with the Mavs a few days ago and is now their starting Center today
It was three teams, with the Jazz getting a couple players and picks from each team. Mavs get a future pick from the Lakers.
If Doncic stayed, he was slated for a five year extension worth $345m. He doesn’t get that now. More importantly (at least for them), the Mavs don’t have to pay it… or deal with cap issues, if they even wanted to pay it.
By Jon Wilner | Bay Area News Group
From Seattle to Salt Lake City, Boulder to Eugene and all points in between, the legacy Pac-12 schools have revealed one final act of self-inflicted budgetary pain.
Financial reports were due to the NCAA in the middle of January and have since been published on school websites or made available upon request.
They reveal the impact of the negotiated settlement with Washington State and Oregon State and the Comcast overpayment fiasco that walloped the conference in the winter of 2023.
That combination resulted in $125 million withheld from conference distributions over two years, with the amount split evenly among the 10 legacy schools.
The breakdown is as follows:
— The negotiated settlement in the fall of 2023 resulted in each of the departed schools having $5 million withheld from their conference distributions, with an additional $1.5 million “supplement contribution” added to the tab.
If we assume the supplement contributions were made in the 2024 fiscal year — it wasn’t required: they had until Dec. 31, 2024 — then all 10 would have experienced a $6.5 million decrease in conference distributions that was reflected in the reports submitted to the NCAA a few weeks ago.
— The Comcast scandal involved the company overpaying the Pac-12 Networks for 10 years. Conference executives learned of the problem in 2017 but did not alert Comcast, which discovered the overpayments during an internal audit in 2022.
Comcast then withheld a total of $72 million, according to former commissioner George Kliavkoff’s court declaration in a lawsuit filed against the Pac-12 by two executives fired in the aftermath of the scandal.
That hit was shared equally by all 12 schools and impacted both the 2023 and 2024 fiscal year budgets, although it is not known exactly how much was withheld each year.
In its 2024 financial report to the NCAA, Utah showed a $17 million operating shortfall. An addendum to the report noted:
“Most of the deficit can be traced to the breakup of the Pac-12 Conference and significantly reduced distributions due to: The negotiated exit agreement; Legal fees; Overpayment of prior year television distributions.”
Asked for details on the “overpayment” category, an athletic department spokesperson told the Hotline that Utah wasn’t “able to provide such information.” (Presumably, the matter was governed by non-disclosure clauses in the Pac-12?s agreement with Comcast.)
However, the NCAA financial reports illuminate the total damage caused by the Comcast issue and the negotiated settlement, with several schools, including Utah, showing dramatic reductions in certain revenue streams.
At this point, we should step back from the details and make clear two important aspects of the financial reporting system:
— Pac-12 distributions in the 2024 fiscal year came from four primary buckets: the media rights deals with ESPN, Fox and the Pac-12 Networks’ carriage deals; football postseason revenue (e.g., the College Football Playoff); NCAA Tournament performance payments; and conference revenue unrelated to media rights, March Madness or the CFP. Each school handles its accounting in slightly different ways.
— The media rights revenue reported by the schools covers local radio agreements, sponsorship deals and digital and e-commerce rights, as well as the Pac-12?s television contracts. As a result, the amounts vary widely from campus to campus and do not match the media distributions reported in the Pac-12?s federal tax filings. (Those only reflect the deals with Fox, ESPN and the Pac-12 Networks.)
Our examination of NCAA reports unearthed the damage done to athletic department budgets.
For example, Utah showed a $9.9 million shift in net revenue from the Pac-12 in the line item that does not include media rights or football postseason payments.
The Utes booked a $3.0 million surplus in the 2023 fiscal year and a $6.9 million shortfall in 2024.
How much can be attributed to the Comcast fiasco specifically in 2024 is unclear. But the decrease in conference revenue contributed to the Utes experiencing a deep red bottom line. One of the most fiscally responsible athletic departments in the former Pac-12 had a $17 million operational shortfall.
Oregon revealed a similar shift: The Ducks reported a $1.8 million surplus in conference revenue (excluding media rights and football postseason) in 2023 and an $8.2 million shortfall in 2024 — a swing of $10 million.
At the risk of oversimplifying, we could draw the following conclusions from Utah and Oregon showing a $10 million swing: Given that $6.5 million is rooted in the negotiated settlement with Washington State and Oregon State, that seemingly would leave $3.5 million to the reduction in revenue connected to the Comcast fiasco. (Out of the $6 million total Comcast wallop over two years.)
Colorado also showed a substantial reduction in conference distributions — but over two years. The Buffaloes booked an $8.3 million surplus in the 2022 fiscal year; that figure dropped to $2 million in 2023 and $1.8 million in 2024.
UCLA seemingly accounted for the Comcast reduction and the settlement withholdings in the line item reflecting media rights: After reporting $27.8 million in 2022, the Bruins showed $19.9 million in 2024.
More clarity to the financial picture will arrive in May, when the Pac-12?s tax filings for 2024 — the legacy schools’ final year in the conference — are disclosed. They will include conference distributions from media rights and the football and basketball postseasons.
But enough information is currently available to indicate each legacy school has absorbed a hit of roughly $12 million resulting from the Comcast scandal and the settlement that followed the breakup of the conference.
That’s the equivalent of one year’s salary for the football coach and his entire staff.
It’s enough to handle the annual travel costs for every varsity sport.
It’s almost enough to cover the football roster ($15 million, approximately) once the revenue-sharing model takes hold across the Power Four.
And both situations can, of course, be traced directly to the same source: years of terrible leadership by the commissioners and university presidents that end up hurting the athletes — and passing the cost of doing business onto the fans.
This article originally appeared on Wilner Hotline.
Chip Kelly to become LV Raiders OC:
“Kelly becomes the third assistant coach to leave Ohio State this offseason, joining defensive coordinator Jim Knowles and offensive line coach Justin Frye. Knowles left the Buckeyes to become the defensive coordinator at Penn State, while Frye left Ohio State to become the Arizona Cardinals’ offensive line coach.
With Kelly calling Ohio State’s offensive plays and coaching the Buckeyes’ quarterbacks, Ohio State scored 35.7 points per game – an increase of more than five points per game from 2023 – and Will Howard completed a school-record 73% of his passes while leading the team to a national championship.”
AFC west filling up with the head coaches from 2009 PAC10.
As a Raider fan and Beaver fan, not sure how to feel about this hire. All signs would say he is a better OC than HC, and Lord knows the Raiders can’t possibly be worse, but still hard to root for man boobs.
Saw one rumor that he is being paid 6M/year. Yikes!
Nebraska beats the Schmucks today at MKA 77-71.
How about them Cornhuskers.
They cornholed the mighty ducks!
This week only a handful of significant matchups in the WCC. Thursday night St Mary’s visits San Francisco in a battle between first and second place teams. Beavs host Wazzu and the Cougs have lost 4 in a row.
Saturday the Beavs host St Mary’s on ESPN2.
Somehow LMU has moved into a tie for 5th with the Beavs at 6-4. They play at Gonzaga and host San Francisco this week. I expect them to drop both games. But I also didn’t expect the children of the corn to win in Eugene either.
The next 4 after this week are against teams below them in the standings. If they’re gonna move up in the standings, they’ll need to have a good weekend at home
Anyone got investment advice for our new…..uh……economic system?
A passport? Lol.
If only there were a place to go that’s immune from the impacts. Shit rolls downhill haha.
OH NO! Our country isn’t going to be taken advantage of anymore and we are shutting down Government money laundering operations.
Anyways…
Leftists always gonna make a snarky remark in a sports forum or Thanksgiving dinner, and any response like this will be LeAvE the PolITICs OUt oF it !
The level of stupid required to not see how corrupt Trump and Musk are is wild, you are quite stupid. And Trump is a Leftist, what he is currently doing come straights from Stalin idiot.
No one voted for Elmo, no one has vetted Elmo, WTF is Elmo doing closing a US Dept that was approved and funded by Congress? And his 24 yo minions without security clearances are looking through people’s SSNs? Holy balls. Literally, fuck that guy. I was amazed at how many people were on board with Luigi, but getting closer to seeing their point.
It was announced today that tariffs with Mexico will be delayed one month. Meanwhile, if you’re planning to make any new purchases of large ticket items, for example eggs, be prepared for the sticker shock.
What a great strategy to make America weak again by destabilizing our economy, creating a isolationist economic policy and in effect, placing a regressive tax on goods and services imported from Canada, Mexico, et al.
Yeah, pretty funny that Trump claimed its because Mexico agreed to send 10,000 troops to the border, Biden got that without having to tank the stock market for a day. The truth? Mexico agreed because Trump promised to help Mexico keep guns out of their country. The Mexican President got concessions from Trump. He is such a bad negotiator.
I’m glad I got my Winter Mexico trip in when I did. Not sure I’d be heading down there for Spring Break.
You can already tell that tourism is down quite a bit. Those people are going to be hurting without all of that commerce coming to the areas that depend on tourism. And this is just a few years removed from Covid when they already weathered a blow. To be fair, everybody we encountered was very friendly and helpful during our trip and we had a great time.
Army recruitment is now at its highest level in 15 years. Is that a bad thing?
What a fucking fool you are. The bird flu wiped out millions of chickens, temporarily raising their price, and you are calling eggs ‘big ticket items.’ The whole point of threatening tariffs was to have Canada and Mexico agree to attempt to secure their side of the border, and for China to make an effort to curtail Fentanyl precursors originating from there. And dipshits like you buy into the crazy logic spewed forth by the lying Democrats.
Authoritarianism is in no way leftist. It is literally as far right as one can go.
Libertarianism is about as far left as you can go, without becoming an anarchist. The reason it’s considered “conservative” is because white supremacists latched onto the “small government” part of it, since government is the only reason they are required to treat non-white people as humans. That faction is obviously right wing… and not true libertarians.
Left v Right comes from the French revolution.
Those wanting a republic sat on the Left, those wanting to conserve the monarchy sat on the right.
Change is left
Tradition is right
In today’s equivalent the Democrats would be on the right because they want to “conserve” the republic. MAGA wants to turn America into something else. They are the Leftists.
It’s not change v tradition.
It’s authoritarianism v democracy and independence.
Conservatism was about fiscal responsibility and lesser regulations on business. No idea what it means, now that we have someone with that moniker but spends like it’s Monopoly money. Liberalism is a form of conservatism, though, it does run to the center. So it’s correct to point out they are pretty much what Reagan was, minus being war hawks. Even that’s changed over the decades.
That’s not where right v left comes from.
You can define it that way but that’s NEVER been the definition. Communism is authoritarian and is not right wing on any political compass on Earth.
Sorry, you’re just wrong.
What speaks to authoritarianism more than forced masking, vaccine mandates and censorship of private citizens?
No over reaction here! I wonder what you do to the barista when they get your coffee order wrong…
The tariffs are designed to increase self-sufficiency and reduce reliance on foreign products. The problem is that we don’t have sufficient labor to support increased domestic production. The border/immigration is really about pandering to his voting base (which has seen broad appeal across parties), though I personally think it is the wrong move. I’m sure you enjoy your cheap Chinese/Mexican imports while the people that made them are living in poverty.
Bahahaha, putting 25% tariffs on countries you have a FREE TRADE agreement with (one Trump negotiated no less) does NOTHING to make the US more self sufficient. It isn’t an overreaction. Trump is dumber than the grass in your front yard.
And of course, Elon Musk having access to the Treasury and turning off funding is just flat out a violation of the Constitution and any person that defends it is is dumber than Trump.
“Free Trade?” Is that what you call it when there are Canadian tariffs of 270% on dairy, 70% on sausage, 58% on barley seed and 50% on durum wheat?
Canadians are living in poverty?
Or do we believe the man himself, when he says it’s about annexation of Canada.
lol… so dumb.
Tariffs work to protect fledgling or boutique domestic producers. Domestic policy (subsidy/incentive) is much more effective in moving legacy industries to source domestic resources. Dumbshit keeps saying it’s going to make the US very rich… by costing us a bunch of money. There’s a huge disconnect between the two motives, and it explains the wanton execution.
Besides, everyone knows you just need to stroke the guy’s ego, and your deal becomes his idea. Remember the first convo he had with a previous Mexican President. He was basically begging the guy to just make it look like Mexico was capitulating, so he could sell the propaganda back home.
I should say tariffs also only work in combination with some level of domestic policy targeting the specific industries needing protection.
Simply using tariffs as a standalone solution is about as dumb as it gets.
lol… if one isn’t a complete economic idiot, one is leftist
lol
But at least getting rid of the FDIC and OMBD–and having Treasury do those tasks–is a supremely good and not leftist idea, because banks do the right thing always.
lol… CFPB, not ombd
Good luck getting a visa.
I know a couple people who moved to Spain “for work” recently. One of them is a dev, so I’m pretty sure she can work anywhere.
The Eye of Moron has yet to turn its gaze toward Spain. It’s currently worried about USAID giving one hundred meelion dollars of condoms to Hamas… and pets getting eaten.
Is it bad that I sort of love how comedically stupid the guy is?
Dude’s Dale Gribble on continuous shuffle.
Hey the guy already shit on our neighbors and has said he plans on doing the same with the EU, with friends like that who needs enemies?
The Schmucks fall out of the top 25 since being ranked as #9. Their fall has left more skid marks in the toilet bowl than someone with a severe case of diarrhea. It only gets better this week as they go on the road to play Michigan and Michigan State so a great opportunity to leave even more skid marks on the once overrated Schmucks! Have fun with the cross country tour in Michigan and try not to crap your panties on the comfortable plane ride. We already know they will crap their pants on the court……
Matt Rhule gets it. Why have a spring game to showcase your talent when it can be stolen right after the spring game.
Not sure if anyone caught it, but Sean Mannion looks like a QB coach for Green Bay. Cool to see that he’s still part of the NFL.
I was thinking the other day that if the OL can consistently give Murphy 4-4.5 seconds, he could have one of the best seasons for a Beaver QB since Mannion in terms of yards and TDs…I guess Luton had the best since Mannion at 2,700 yards, 62%, 28 TDs 3 INTS, 1Rush TD….
The first 7 games could be challenging with, again, so much to bring together….new QB, new TEs…WR consistency…
OSU wr coach hynson has left for a job in the NFL and I don’t know if that’s good or bad? Thoughts anyone?
Always good if a coach leaves for the NFL or a promotion. He worked his butt off. Starting at Willamette and now in the NFL.
https://x.com/TheZagaholic/status/1886485011895136471
Highest revenue non P-4 programs…
Beavs on top. PAC money is definitely the main driver here. SDSU is surprising. I’m guessing that’s from NCAA tourney revenue?
Kefense Hynson hired by Tampa Bay. Man that hurts.
Ochocinco for WR coach? :)
HUGE loss. Fense is a great coach that did so much for the program.
Need an experienced guy, worried they’ll promote a young QC or GA.
My short list would be Joe Price, Mark Dupuis, Tony Washington, Lawrence Dawsey, Quinshad Davis, and Chad Savage.
Brandin Cooks is a FA, may be in his best interest to retire….Bilitnekoff winner, pro experience with Drew Brees/HC Sean Payton, Tom Brady/Bilichek, LA Rams HC Sean McVay….two super bowls (0 wins, Luck Da Beavs)…he played in some of the best offensive systems in the NFL..personable, smart, energetic…probably be the fastest player on the team…
He’s 500 yards away from 10K. I doubt he retires this year.
I doubt it too..he said he’s ready for 2025….
Hahahaha yes! Too much winning! People will respect the USA now and not get handouts. Trump! Trump!! Trump!!!!
Liberals seething
Haha, yes, soft diplomacy is dumb! Let those stoopid non white countries curry favor with China, they need more allies… we don’t need friends, not even as neighbors!
I’m a progressive, not Liberal. But I find the level of incompetence quite entertaining. And I’m freed of the burden of caring about what happens to the people who voted for it. If that’s seething, so be it.
Seething? I’ve been laughing my ass off at the predictably of this.
Enjoy the chaos. And no one respects America right now, we are a global joke right now.
The rise of the Fourth Reich and Heir Trumpft is using Hitler’s playbook as his master plan. For those that are history buffs, there are several books out their on how Hitler seized control of Germany. He initially used violent means and when that failed he took a more strategic approach using the Constitution and enabling laws to finally gain complete authoritarian control of Germany,
Of course he blamed the Jews and other minorities for the economic woes of his country and labeled them poisoning the blood of Germany (this sounds eerily familiar doesn’t it). After taking control of the government, all media outlets and dissidents, he had his path for his ultimate goal expansion and complete control of Europe although one could argue that Europe was just a stepping stone for global rule and domination. Of course, there were those concentration camps too…
Again, does any of this sound remotely similar to what’s currently happening with Musk buying up media outlets, mass deportation of illegal immigrants to Guantanamo Bay, the multiple violations of Constitutional authority and the separation of powers…
Well, I could go on and use color crayons if needed to paint a picture, but I think some people are so mesmerized by a complete ignoramus that they couldn’t tell the different between the color blue and the color red.
Hold on to your guardrails bc it’s going to be anything but smooth sailing for the next four years if we can survive this circus clown act.
I just find it comedic at this point.
Mexico agreed to put 10,000 national guard on the border: guess what? They already have 15,000 such troops. Trump got nothing.
Canada agreed to spend 1.3 billion on the border: guess what? They passed that last year.
Trump got NOTHING. And idiots will claim he won some fake negotiation. Anyone dumb enough to still fall for it deserves to be conned. Sadly even those of us with functioning brains are stuck with the consequences too.
Heir Trumpft really believes he is the Chosen One bc of his name.
Donald, derived from Scottish Gaelic roots, means ruler of the world or world leader, while Daniel, originating from Hebrew, signifies God is my judge. Thus, Doniel embodies a symbolic fusion of strength, leadership, and spirituality.
Given his ancestor roots come from Germany and Scotland, no wonder he he has an affinity for dictators like Hitler, Putin, xi Jinping and Kim Jung Un.
His hardcore base and evangelicals have been deceived as this guy doesn’t have an announce of Christianity in him..
……..an ounce….
We’ll see in the end. Just keep listening to you girlfriends Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid. They will steer you in the right direction…..
I suggest you all watch the movie Idiocracy to catch-up on current national and political events. https://thebigsmoke.com.au/amp/2024/07/30/has-us-politics-reached-its-idiocracy-moment/
Have you ever eaten at Buttfuckers? Lol
What’s with the kink-shame?
To each their own.
Americans crashing out hard on politics makes me chuckle.
Anyways… baseball starts next Friday!
“The Oregon State baseball team took one step closer to becoming a unanimous top 10 team heading into the season.
The Beavers on Monday debuted at No. 7 in the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association Top 30, earning a spot in the top 10 of a poll for the fourth time this season.
The Beavers have also earned preseason rankings from D1Baseball (No. 7), Baseball America (No. 9) and Perfect Game (No. 10). The USA Today Coaches Poll is expected to be released later this week.”
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“Oregon State’s infield is as good as any in the nation, according to D1Baseball, featuring a player ranked among the best at his position everywhere across the diamond.
The national college baseball website unveiled rankings of the country’s best players at every infield position and Oregon State was well represented. Beavers players were ranked in the top 50 at every position, with two — shortstop and third base — landing as high as No. 4.
Here’s a look at the Beavers listed in the rankings:
CATCHER: WILSON WEBER
After splitting starting duties with Tanner Smith a year ago, Weber is expected to start the lion’s share of games in 2025. He hit .276 with seven homers, seven doubles and 22 RBIs in 34 games last season, and OSU coaches are predicting even more this year for the 6-foot-1 senior from Gresham. Weber is ranked No. 36 on the list of the top 50 catchers.
FIRST BASE: JACOB KRIEG
The Beavers’ projected starter is ranked No. 25 on the list of the top 50 first basemen. A 6-5 junior, Krieg hit .278 with nine homers, 10 doubles and 40 RBIs last season in 47 games, which included 43 starts. And, if you ask OSU hitting coach Ryan Gipson, the production could just be a drop in the bucket. “He might lead the club in homers,” Gipson said. “He might just have an absolutely gigantic year.”
SECOND BASE: JABIN TROSKY
The redshirt junior enters camp in a battle with transfer AJ Singer for the starting second base job. But Trosky is so talented, especially on defense, that he landed at No. 50 on the list of the top 50 second basemen. He hit .287 with 20 RBIs and 20 runs scored last season, when he played in 40 games, including 29 starts.
SHORTSTOP: AIVA ARQUETTE
The 6-5 junior, who transferred from Washington, is ranked No. 4 on the list of the top 50 shortstops. And that might be too low. Arquette, who boasts an electric bat and elite defense, has been so good since arriving in Corvallis, OSU coaches think he might just evolve into the No. 1 pick of the 2025 MLB draft. At the very least, Arquette brings athleticism, unique size, pop and endless talent to the roster. He hit .322, slugged .574 and finished with 12 home runs, 14 doubles and 36 RBIs last season, when he earned a spot on the Pac-12 all-conference team and all-defensive team.
THIRD BASE: TRENT CARAWAY
The 6-2 sophomore arrived at Oregon State with much fanfare and backed up the hype, hitting .352 with two home runs, five doubles, nine RBIs and 14 runs scored in his first 14 games. Then Caraway suffered a broken finger and missed two months, derailing his debut season. But he’s back, healthy and as formidable as ever. Caraway is ranked fourth on the list of the top 50 third basemen.
— Joe Freeman | jfreeman@oregonian.com | 503-294-5183 | @BlazerFreeman
Hopefully Keljo solidifies the ace spot early.
You live in a democracy, or at least you did.
Being proud of not paying attention isn’t the win you think it is. And is exactly why our republic is being destroyed from the inside we speak.
“You have a republic, if you can keep it”
Idiots like you are why we will lose it.
Fuck off dickhead, this is a sports blog.
This is a whatever we want to discuss blog.
You commented on politics. Stop whining when you get a response to your stupid post.
I suggest you get over things you can’t control and enjoy the good things in life, like Beaver sports.
Or, you can die of high blood pressure. I couldn’t care less.
It’s almost like I can be both an engaged citizen and enjoy life.
But I guess you are incapable of such a thing? Weak mind? Fair enough.
Patrolling a message board and crashing out on politics ranting about Hitler is a pathetic life. Now imagine this, plus whatever you do on Reddit or, God forbid, X and Facebook.
Your comments also make no impact for change, and are therefore pointless. Since you can’t comprehend that, what I’m saying to you is also pointless. Therefore, engaging with you is pointless. Bye
Don’t go to Reddit, don’t have Facebook or Twitter. Haven’t called Trump Hitler.
And everyone of my comments has been in RESPONSE to others comments.
I assume you are masterbating to your Trump poster instead of engaging? Cool! You do you.
Yah, calling bullshit on that. You’re a total incel with no positive outlook on life. Living on message boards is how you waste away.
Honestly, that’s probably the best thing for society, at least until you make the decision to grab a rifle and take someone out. Lol
Hahaha, I understand you have to believe that to justify your hatred of me. You’re the only one in this conversation that seems angry or like they might take people out with a gun.
I’m sorry your life sucks and your mom hates you. It explains why you worship Trump as your god though.
Thought you weren’t engaging? You seem like a truly sad person. Oh and your comments about Oregon State are meaningless and change nothing so why are you even here? Don’t you have a Proud Boys meeting to attend?
I am laughing my ass off that you, a guy on a message board, are making the argument you are making though. Seriously, I’m rolling on the floor laughing at you.
I assume you are used to being laughed at though.
Your rants about losing an election are hilarious though. It’s the typical response: my side did not win, so everything I don’t believe in is Hitler. It’s the true American trope, so the rest of the world is laughing at you.
Now in good faith, I made an attempt to dissuade you from engaging in this behavior, but you obviously embrace it. So now I’m curious about the psychological damage that can be inflicted.
The funny part is you’re the only one that lost their mind. I can feel the anger, you’ve been up all night hurting refresh haven’t you?
“Everyone of my comments has been in RESPONSE to others comments” you do seem to bring up original topics, so in that aspect you’re a liar
Yes, in RESPONSE. So zero lies. I get that you are sad, angry, and based on your 94 IQ borderline retarded so I understand why you are confused.
And when you have a mom that will literally die if Musk and his co-President Trump fuck with Medicaid that pays for her experimental cancer treatment and you don’t care than we can talk. Do you have such a mom?
Till then, you can fuck right off with your ‘it’s silly to care about politics’ attitude.
My mom would say she lived a full life, something you’ll never be able to say.
Eat shit and die
Wow, you definitely are MAGA. Perfect example of it too. A shitty human that hates his own mom? Yep, you’re a Trumper.
Good luck. Trump hates you you know, truly hates. So does your mom I assume.
You have no mom because she abandoned you early on, probably left you in a daycare then bolted.
You’d do chemo just to spend another year on message boards to voice your angst, which is fine. More money for my medical stocks!
Hahaha, man. All I’ve learned from this interaction is:
You voted for Trump, know it was a stupid vote, and are now desperate to pretend I’m you.
Incels are Trump supporters like you
Trump supporters always accuse others of what they are
Therefore the obvious conclusion is you have never experienced the touch of a woman or man (I don’t know your preference). I’m sorry, maybe don’t be such a shitty human?
Even funnier, you’re so mad right now. So mad. Hilarious how obvious your anger is.
I’m going to bed, feel free to keep ranting like the toddler you are.
“You voted for Trump” proof? Sounds more like conjecture.
“Know it was a stupid vote” Voting in America is stupid anyways
“Now desperate to pretend I’m you” who wouldn’t want to be me?
“Incels are Trump supporters like you” some are, some aren’t, just like any set of voters
“Trump supports always accuse others of what they are” this is actually a typical American behavior.
“Therefore the obvious conclusion is you have never experienced the touch of a woman or man” I sense some projection, since you’ve originated this point as opposed to “just responding” lol. True American behavior I guess
What’s really pathetic is some people would rather see it all burn to the ground than success. Juat so they can say, “See! I told you so!”
No, most of us would prefer our fellow Americans wake the fuck up but idiots can’t be reasoned with. See 94Beav, he’s so proud of his IQ of 94 it’s in his username. You can’t reason with stupidity of this level.
You guys chose to burn it to the ground, I might was well find enjoyment in it. 94Beav, you are a very sad and angry person. Seek help.
You called me an incel, YOU brought that point up. I know you’re dumb but do you even know what an incel is? Apparently you don’t. Which just continues the comedy.
“I’m going to bed” e.g. I’m going to the r/politics and r/worldpolitics to continue my car crash of a journey
I don’t even know what those sites are but you sure as fuck do. Which makes your entire pathetic sad little rant just comedy gold.
Youngorst: as you can see from the “thumbs” in this thread, you are losing the interest of the majority on this site. Why don’t you quit before you get even further behind? It’s important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let yourself be wrong.
“Idiots can’t be reasoned with”
Yes, idiots can’t be reasoned with.
And why would I want Trump to succeed? His goal is to destroy America. Only an idiot that hates America would root for that to succeed.
Do you even hear yourself? Seriously
Yes and I not ashamed of my pro-Constitution positions no matter how much they offend you, do you hear Trump? Seriously?
I’ve literally NEVER started any such conversation but frankly I don’t give a flying fuck about upvotes or downvotes. And anyone that does it just as insecure as Trump and probably hates America just as much as Trump does. But thanks for meaningless advise.
New thread up!
lol
Tristan T’ia has announced that he has signed with the beavers!