Overall, the Beavs played well. They’ve now given up only 17 points on defense in the last 6 quarters (WSU and CO combined). The issues on D are mostly technical. Tackling high is a big problem — I noticed this over and over, and the runner was able to gain an additional 3 yards because his legs were still churning.
Some guys I have liked a lot, such as Nall and Guyton, showed what they can do tonight. Good stuff.
Nick Mitchell: I am not sure what to make of him. He threw a few gorgeous balls and the passing game had more flow, but also threw a few behind receivers. The jury is out on him, but the passing game sure looked improved. In a perfect world, he (or MM, since we don’t know what he is yet) backs up StHC, and StHC learns how to throw simple passes. But that isn’t going to happen any time soon, so the coaches have a conundrum. It might be more mix and match. I’m not even sure what I’d do, and I’m usually an idea man with creative solutions. I don’t have one here. It’s a tough situation. A QB has to be able to throw basic passes, so gun to my head, I think you have to throw Mitchell back out there next week. Utah might eat him alive, though, and Collins wheels could come in handy there. Maybe put them both on the field again and develop more plays around that idea.
The refs potentially cost this game. This is a recurring theme in the conference. It’s a big problem that isn’t being discussed. They have to call PI on the pass to Noah. Beavs would have had a fresh set of downs, a shot at a TD, and at worst an easy FG. Then on the last drive they’re driving for FG range instead of a TD. That non called changed the game. I felt momentum change after the half as well when Collins came out to play. He did lead them into FG range (missed), but overall the game became sluggish, inefficient, and shifted to CO.
I doubt the recruits were impressed with the product. Hopefully they like the town, potential teammates, coaches, and the idea of early playing time. That’s about all OSU can sell right now.
I saw some growth tonight, but it’s hard to gauge vs CO. Overall, I feel on defense it was a good continuation on the 2nd half vs WSU. On offense, not much good other than Nall. Mitchell and Guyton showed glimpses. The O-line played okay, especially considering injury (Fred L might be an addition by subtraction situation).
I blame this loss on Angie Machado giving away trick plays on her site.
Did she really?
I guess Ed Ray thinks Colorado must have brought their “A” game. Team that had lost 14 straight in conference brought their C- game at best and beat us at home with it. That tells me most of the Pac-12 can bring their “D” game and beat us. Not what Dr. Ray sold us on the investment OSU was making for a premium product. Don’t be surprised if OSU’s string of consecutive Pac-12 losses reaches CU’s horrifying level. We are at 6 straight now and only 8 more to go to match CU’s which was easily the worst in the nation.
And this is GA’s fault? You honestly thought that Riley leaving the cupboard bare at the QB position and they would find success this season? You’re a pumpkin alright
I’m not sure Riley left the cupboard bare at QB. GA changed the offense, so Del Rio left, Another QB transferred, Vanderveen changed positions. Speaking of QB’s, does it seems like at times the OSU QB’s look like high schoolers. Collins is especially small looking. The roster lists him at 195#’s but he looks <180.
Actually Kansas is the worst in the nation. 20+ losses to conference opponents.
That was likely our last possibility for a win.
Grim season.
Worst season since 1996. Jerry Pettibone’s last year.
Your’e welcome.
No. It’s already better than 2011. And there’s a chance (slim) that we will equal or better the record from that year.
And I would say last year, except for one game, was worse in terms of talent on the roster and the complete joke of a team that played on the field every week. I can’t say it was a worse season overall (again… slim chance it might be). But it was by far relatively much much worse than what we’re seeing now.
Next worse is Washington but who knows which team shows up for them.
If Browning plays we’ll lose.
That was true in the 80s as well.
disagree, but we will see. I don’t have any hope for at Utah or Cal though.
Positional Review:
QBs C+: Funny that this is an upgrade over our usual play. First, Collins hit one wide-open receiver, but didn’t really make any other passing plays, and his running game was stuffed, so he was mostly useless. Mitchell looked like a RS Freshman playing his first real game, but much better than our other options. See below for more.
RBs A-: Nall went beastmode, running through everyone. I wasn’t impressed with Colorado’s athleticism, so that may be Nall’s downfall, but against a mediocre defense he just torched them.
WR D+: There were a few nice catches, but overall there were too many drops. Mitchell threw behind them sometimes, but there were at least 2 great bombs that were catchable yet dropped, and Guyton’s 2 PI penalties were pure stupidity.
OLine D: Didn’t create many holes(Nall had to break several tackles in his own backfield) and Mitchell had very little time to throw all game. This group is just bad.
DLine C: The 4-man rush is pretty bad, but Peko stepped up late with a tip and a takedown of the QB on 3rd and 3. Without those last 2 drives, this group was probably a D-.
LBs D+: Not generating much pressure the few times they were allowed to blitz, and the safeties are having to make too many downfield tackles. That’s a sign that your LBs are just being gobbled up by blockers and not having an impact.
DBacks D+: The coverage was, outside of about 3 plays, really bad. No Larry Scott and DeCout going down early meant we were down our 2 starting CBs, and it showed. Our non-Justin Strong safeties tackled well, but Strong has seriously regressed.
Special Teams C: No botches this week, hooray! 1 missed FG, not unexpected, though if he makes that FG we probably win the game as we don’t have to press for TDs on the last 2 drives.
Coaching C-: On the one hand, major points for trying to play Collins and Mitchell at the same time(and how successful it was on the first drive) and then giving Mitchell more playing time as the game went on. The creativity on the first drive was very nice. On the other hand, Collins played the first 2 series of the second half(which did not score), and the defensive playcalling has been really conservative. Banker-level conservative.
And because 3 young guns are the talk-of-the-town:
Nick Mitchell: Looked like a legit D1 QB. Realistically his big flaw this game was the WR slant plays, where he completed something like 3-7. That’s 100% a timing play, and as was pointed out in the earlier thread, he was splitting starting reps this week with Collins. And before that, it was Collins or Collins/MM getting the starter reps in practice. Does anyone doubt that with some more reps, he can make those throws? I don’t. And the threat of a real passer opens up a lot more running lanes for Nall than Collins ever could.
Ryan Nall: Looked like a beast against the 2nd worst defense in the Pac12. Better than looking bad though, and because he’s built like a tank he shouldn’t be hurt like…all our other RBs, all the time. You cannot arm tackle him, and you can barely 1v1 tackle him. He looked like a slower Steven Jackson out there.
Daytrin Guyton: Guyton caught 4 of his 8 targets for 56 yards. He also had 2 PI calls for -30 yards, and a tip that was almost intercepted. He looked very dangerous on those slant routes that were thrown correctly, and the last 5-and-out route’s catch was pretty nice. So while he has the potential to be very good, he isn’t right now. And if Jarmon wasn’t injured he probably wouldn’t have played nearly as much as he did. So he’s rough around the edges and will probably continue to make some boneheaded plays and drop some easy passes, but he has the frame and athleticism to maybe be very good. We’ll see. He looks like less of a stiff that Obum did, anyway.
Sat next to a recruit’s family in section 111, they did not seem very excited… But that whole section was a bunch of wet napkins, so take that as you will. Pretty pathetic energy from the stands, embarrassing
Team has an awful record at home since we went to the logo less matte black helmets. I preferred the identity with the Beavers script of the Pettibone era over no identity which has a high school feel IMO. May as well be Crescent Valley the way it presents. If nothing else put the slanted Beavers current script or OSU on the black helmets. The empty look has produced a lot more empty performances and seems to support low expectations.
only 40 miles down the road does what the team is wearing matter in the grand scheme of things. They’d suck too if 2/3 of the team were freshman.
Ah Fuck. It’s the helmets. I wondered what was wrong with this team…
I mean, I miss Benny and Bernice too, but I dunno if that has anything to do with the play. Actually, I also miss the really angry Benny, who scared children, haha.
Your’e welcome.
I think that’s the first time this year the black helmets have been without a logo.
Never the less Bev’s have to keep pushing forward in a positive way.
Many other big name college teams are taking pretty big hits, disappointments
ect. Moving forward # Go Bevs
gotta agree with Angry somewhat here. Beavs just don’t have a QB eligible right now that is a threat to run and a capable passer. Options are limited when you don’t. Blame Baldwin all you wish. Very few teams outside of USC or Oregon in the Pac-12 are successful with a freshman QB. Yes, I know Arizona did it last year with Anus. Defense improved but was it the level of competition? Also injuries have made an already inexperienced team forced to shove more inexperienced and less talented players on the field. The non PI call on Togai (sic?) was a killer. I also stated that the most penalized team in the league the last several years does not get the benefit of the doubt. Holy shit! Who was right? Saw the same thing on a block in the back in the first half on a pass to the RB committed by Spruce and even the announcers said it should have been called. Here’s what i do know. Nall should be the starting RB. Hands down. Both Collins and Mitchell should play. Mitchell throws a better ball by a little. Collins is a better runner. Figure out a way to utilize them both. Bolden makes two bad plays for every good one he does make. Guyton has tremendous upside. Yes both calls were offensive PI and correct. This is a young team and has serious flaws everywhere. This year is lost and probably next as well. Again, be patient. IF GA and staff decide to stick around we will all see the fruits of their labor in a few years. Unlike Nebraska who went from a 9 win season to 3-5 and may not make a bowl game. Despite the fact it does feel like rock bottom I’ll take a proven winner like GA over RiLLLLLey. Patience is a virtue
Mostly agree.
Mitchell throws a much better ball than Collins though. Just compare spirals, it’s brutal. Collins is a seriously good, fast, instinctive runner, so realistically we should be treating him like a Wildcat QB. That’s good for 10 plays a game.
This is a “Lost year” in that we’re not going bowling. But I at least felt hope of winning when Mitchell was out there. With Collins, no way. Keeping in mind that we have a new coaching staff and incredibly young team overall, I don’t feel so bad about things.
In the offseason, I’d love to see some big OLine/DLine/LB recruits. We need our front 7s to be great, and the talent there is seriously sparse.
someone voted this down? You’re either blind, dumb or both.
yep. Go ahead and continue to blame this coaching staff. Idiot
I bumped you back to neutral. I agree with what you said.
WSN, good points, agreed
Is this the new optimist angry? I can’t agree the team played well overall when we scored only 13 points against Colorado at home. There were patches of encouragement, but playing well overall is a stretch, except for the D.
playing well overall for a team of 85 with 52 freshman is a stretch ANYWHERE you don’t loads of 4 and 5 star talent
I understand the team is very young, but they were playing Colorado. COLORADO. The D did great. The O was bad.
I dunno, subjective argument. I believe things will improve, but that doesn’t mean tonight’s offensive performance didn’t stink.
Colorado has a 2 year jump on their rebuild. Did it suck to lose tonight? Yeah. It did. To to lose by 4 points to a team that had a 14 game conference losing streak? Can’t disagree. The D did good but not great imo. Poor tackling continues to be an issue. I contend this team will break thru and surprise someone in these last 5 games. Won’t be Utah or Cal though
What I mean by that is they didn’t have a lot of procedural penalties (at least that I remember) and execution overall was better. The offense looked more like a real offense. The D played fairly well (other than tackling high). They didn’t quit like in past games. They seemed more “bought in”. So yeah, considering the state of things, that is playing well for this team. It was nice to see a QB throw properly, so my rage wasn’t through the roof this week. I’m okay with the rebuilding process and loses if they don’t mail it in at halftime, if they give max effort and show some growth. I felt like all that happened.
I also saw some individual growth tonight from players I like. Good to see.
It’s either tackling high or diving at the legs… I gotta think it’s more of a talent/strength issue than coaching. I mean the coaches are saying every week “we can’t arm tackle” or “just dive” so they gotta be harping on that throughout the week. The Defensive film sessions must be killer watching whiff after whiff. I don’t understand the love for Bolden and Noland Lewis from this staff. GA was kinda defending NL during his pre-game presser last week – “he’s fast…”. Other than Donut Girl Schnell Baldwin is Bolden’s 2nd biggest fan. Bolden should just sit BUT I guess we just don’t have anyone else to put in… Fucking Opie’s recruiting was so bad. Hill, NL, Scott – all of these guys got a gift scholarship from OSU. I think they were all 2 stars and with no other offers of significance. Sad.
Holding in the red zone killed us
Refreshing to see a QB who looked like he could slightly sling the ball arond a bit. Nice to see Nall continue to get more carries. Too bad he was at the TE/Hback position at the beginning of the year; imagine if he had been practicing to play RB all year.
I’m not disgusted with the play tonight. Yeah we are young and have no good qb and we suck, but this biggest concern on any loss is the loss of recruits. Recruits are the key or answer to a better future.
or maybe our coaches can spin this as a positive? PT available right away
Defense was soft. Tissue soft. All night.
Mitchell managed the game well. Didn’t look overwhelmed. Looked like he made the right decisions but lacked the execution. Nall looked great.
Going to be a long day vs a physical Utah team.
Going to be a long day vs a physical Utah team.
Probably, but they might be coming back to Earth. They’re Utah…
Has this team thrown one screen pass this year?
They’ve thrown two to the other team.
yes as a matter of fact I remember one that Mitchell threw to Bolden I think that a CU player came in and blew up for no gain due to POOR BLOCKING by the WR’s
Pretty sure poor blocking is why most plays don’t work, genius.
but that’s the fault of Baldwin and/or the coaching staff. Got it. Genius
Fuck you jerrod.
Double eff you Jerrod.
No. triple fuck jerrod. anyone that has “rod” in their name is a prick. So triple fuck JerROD
I thought Jerrod was is jail already? Didn’t he take a plea deal? No more $5 footlongs?
correct. he’s now getting footlongs in prison for free
Funny as shit – getting negative votes for calling a nimrod and rod…
Just read on twitter that the offense went 3-and-out only once. That’s a big improvement. Probably why the D looked a bit better and only gave up 17 points (well and because CO isn’t good).
Angry, do you read anything into GA talking a lot about the offense needing to score points after almost every game? I thought he has been kind of soft on the defense despite some pretty poor play before the CU game (although Sitake has chimed in enough).
Even though it’s a freshmen team, if they finish 2-10, which is likely, I’m not sure Baldwin will be back. We don’t hear much from Baldwin and I think the Crowton thing is just weird to do mid-season. I don’t care if you are young, you have to score points in the P-12. GA does not seem like he is going to keep the same staff year after year if they don’t improve rapidly.
GA seemed optimistic, at least based on the twitter quotes I am reading. I like these:
Gary Andersen on @OSUBeaversFB
FR RB Ryan Nall, who had 122 yds on 20 carries: “That’s the guy. I want that war daddy everywhere I go.”
Gary Andersen: “We won’t get demoralized. We’ll keep on swinging. This young crew? They’ll swing away.”
In the Portland tribune:
“”That’s the guy,” Andersen said afterward. “I want that ‘War Daddy’ everywhere I go. Those are the guys I want to recruit, the guys I want to surround myself with. He’s tough, he’s physical, he’s unselfish. He’s everything a great football player stands for, and he’s a freshman. That excites the hell out of me.
“Ryan had some unbelievable runs today. He kept pounding the ball in there. … he’s faster than you think, and he’s a big, tough, physical kid. … you get you 30, 40 of those kids, you’ll be rolling.” ”
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/278388-154567-its-close-at-reser-but-another-beaver-loss
My thought is why did it take GA 7 games to figure out that Nall was his “War Daddy”? Instead, we get this off again on again relationship with Stormy and his array of secret injuries. The three runs against Stanford seemed to indicate that Nall should at least get the ball 10-15 times a game.
No injury for Storm. Ran into him after the game. He said they held him out. It was real brief but I could see how down he was.
They said he was held out of practice all week and only cleared Friday morning.
Were the P-12 announcers incorrect about him not practicing last week? I thought that was weird anyway, teams don’t care if their star running back misses some practices as long as he can go at game time. Also, saw stuff written about lingering ankle injury and then concussion protocol. Odd situation, but Nall’s needs the carries going forward.
poor stormy. Lindsay inconsolable today
Lookout voodoo, she’s inconsolable and she’s local.
Anderson also said on the radio after the game that the young guys are starting to pass the older guys and he is excited to see that. He said if the older guys don’t get their shit together they are going to get left behind. I’m paraphrasing but that was the gist of the coment. I thought that revield a lot.
Seems to me that some dropped passes and a missed FG is the only difference from this being a win. This seemed, until the very end, a winnable game, and that at least is kinda new.
Yeah, it was Colorado but they had experienced players in key positions, and seemingly are on the rise. WSU sucked for several years but now is clearly on the rise.
We are young and that leads to some of the shit we see, like Guyton getting two pushoff penalties. And that dropped interception before the last CU td, well, that alone could have won the game.
So yeah, it was a loss, but could easily have been a win, and that is new for us in conference. Hopefully the players see this and bear down, starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel.
One nice thing about being picked to come in last….you at the least, live up to the expectations, .. lol.
You talk about the cliche “it’s a game of inches”……this one fits the bill. Colorado scored their touchdowns after the Beavs couldn’t convert a 4th and inches and Willis fumble fingered away one of the easier interception opportunites a player is going to get. They get a positive result out of just those two plays and probably get the win.
I love Nall. Candidly I thought the hype around him was a little too much – I thought he could be decent RB but I didn’t think he could be an every down back but I changed my mind. If we could get some half way decent blocking screens to that dude would be awesome. Once he gets some steam the defenders are going to get the worst of it. And he’s actually quite fast. He’s so big he looks like he’s lumbering a little… Great effort from that kid and his body language is always good.
I really hope the StCH as the full time QB experiment is over. We have no chance with him at the controls whereas I had some hope with NM. If our fucking receivers could catch a few balls NM’s stats look a lot better and may have won.
Our OL looked bad to me tonight. I thought we regressed there as a unit from the past few weeks. Was Hopkins the replacement for Harlow?
It’s too bad, it was a win that a young team in a new system needed badly. I thought overall they played better than Colorado. 401 yards of offense and they only score 13 points? Hard to to do unless the offense plays the whole game between the 20 yards lines and can’t make key plays, which seems to be what happened. I’m not sure there is another win this season, but it would be nice to see them not get blown out going forward. To me that would be progress and at least fun to watch.
The forgotten missed opportunity is when (Old Man) Willis dropped that gift from heaven. I turned to my son and said, “that’s gonna cost us.” CO goes on to score the go ahead TD on that drive. And, are we over Bolden yet?
It’s Colorado. They look like a mid-level Mountain West team. Not sure how many positives can be taken from it. Oregon blew them out, and people thought they were cured. Then the Ducks lost at home to WSU the next week, and eeked past UW after that.
Oregon – Colorado was tied at the half, and COLO had clearly outplayed them up to that point. Should have been up a TD or two.
Then in the 2nd half the Ducks did their thing and the final score didn’t look that close. But it was in no way a blowout.
Mitchell fell apart in the 4th quarter when he was asked to complete passes to move the offense.
He was 9/24 overall, but 4/16 in the 4th quarter.
His mechanics are pretty awful. He seems to have a wider range of passes than Collins, but he’s still an erratic passer.
Neither of these guys look good. I’m fine with having them both play. Might as well get them both reps to help for the competition next year.
I concur
I think we need to work on ways to use both Collins and Mitchell. Collins is still incredibly effective running the ball, and he CAN pass well enough to be a threat
Bench Bolden. Put SC in the slot; Motion him in fly sweep and into the backfield as RB (Nall could block for him).
Guyton and Villamin at WR.
Wow sounds like oil & water the 2 ingredients never mix. Did you not see the jet sweep to him No gain, No speed, Lets see more Speed & Vision from one of the fastest kids in the nation
P. Lucas and others. We only saw a few glimpse of it during U of A. Hint hint special teams:)
I think we need to work on ways to use both Collins and Mitchell. Collins is still incredibly effective running the ball, and he CAN pass well enough to be a threat on short curl and hitch routes.
Feels like 96 alright. Aw…good times. Lose to a crappy team at home, with an impending slaughter lined up for next week. God how I miss it!!
I used to relax early Sunday mornings after our usual Saturday loss by catching a few fish in that big mud puddle in the Parker Stadium parking lot. It’s been paved over since I was there, maybe a little trout pond for the coaches would be a nice addition to the VCR? JB
Watching a team that cannot execute a forward pass must feel like old times to you also.
Passes are ruining the game. As Woody used to say, “two out of three things that can happen with a pass are bad.” Besides with my style of ball I could have you out of the stadium in under three hours. Tell me that’s not bad with late kickoffs. JB
True that PB! I miss the days when Carlisle played Army and I could be home by 5pm for the hot chocolate social at the Beta Phi house.
Personally I think guyton is going to be very good, but he needs more expierence first. Also we have the worst D in the PAC and I think one could argue the entire country. They literally don’t know how to tackle properly lol.
Also, this entire season is scrapped and now I think the most logical thing to do is develop players for next year. If you honestly think we will win another game you’re delirious.
Game Recaps (includes Andersen’s Post-Game Presser Video):
Mizell: https://t.co/B7qU3qbb5B
Goe: https://t.co/AOhFZikqI1
My opinion going into the season was that the Beavers were #12 out of #12 in terms of what they had to work with talent-wise. So far not seeing anything to the contrary. I thought Colorado would win this game back before the season started, so far it looks like my preseason prediction of 2-10 is on the right track… But I don’t want to be right. I DID see improvement last night. As much as we would have lambasted this team if Riley was still here about needing patience, Andersen is clearly going to need some time to put everything together. This year was always going to be a mulligan and more about development than Ws and Ls. I DO see development. Is it going to be tangible? You all know how tough this league is. Focus on the little things for now. Wins will come. It may not be this season though.
Good stuff.
I really want to see Villamin and Guyton as the starting receivers
I don’t like Bolden but do we have a better slot?
Those two will be so good.. Guyton reminds me of adeboyjo from ole miss
I think the slot guy is Seth Collins.
Ahhhhh yeah!!!!!
You guys suck hahaahaha
Have fun being the worst
I like that a back up TE who’s white and 255lbs is your best offensive weapon. Seriously?? Hahahahah
“War daddy” my ass. Worst nickname ever.
Have fun in the basement punks!
You’re such a fuck. You’ve been the basement dwellers in the PAC and still are lmao…. If we’re that fuckin bad than what’s the make your squad if we almost beat you? Lmao bitch get out of here
You “almost” beat us? Hahahaha But you didn’t. You weren’t even close.
You had the game in your shitty little bean burrito stadium in your rural inbred town and you lost. Got physically dominated on both sides of the ball.
So yes, how good are we?? Well, a whole lot better than you. Bitch.
Haha be angry, beavs
A whole lot better than us? You beat a shitty beaver team with 52 freshman by 4 hahahahahah lol nice win man:-) I’d be hype about beating a bad team like that by 4 too!!
Scoreboard
oregon state can’t even drop 14 PAC 12 games in a row… Must be nice to win for once?
Don’t feed the trolls.
Well, “your” defense did let him run for 120 yards. In looking at CU’s schedule, they are going to finish 4-8 and in last place in the south. It’s all shit unless you have a team that can compete for division titles in the P-12.
Neither the Buffs or Beavs are anywhere near that level, but I would bet in three years Gary Andersen is going to be a hell of a lot closer than Mike Macintyre. Enjoy the end of your losing streak and keep checking back in as your team gets blasted the rest of the season. There are two basements in this league and CU will also be in one of them.
MacIntyre won’t be there in three years. I doubt he’s there next year. This win alone does not save his job. And the next coach won’t have much to work with for a couple years.
You should be banned. You are not contributing in a constructive manner by any means. And, I’d be willing to bet the bank you are under 18.
He’s probably another one of Jack’s personalities.
I’d like to see StHC run the fly sweep. He runs so much better than Bolden and he at least knows which direction the end zone is.
In fact thinking about this more they could design a series of plays around that look where StHC either runs the fly sweep or holds up and passes. They could even set up a screen type play where they let the defense think they’re blowing up the sweep play only to short pass over the top of them. Of course StHC would have to complete the passes for it to be effective.
Any updates on injuries from last night?
The game was somewhat entertaining because it was in balance for most the game. But there wasn’t alot of high level execution on both sides. Beavs had a ton of injuries, but it sounds like Decoud is doing well. I have not heard on Brown or Harlow, and I think there was a fourth that came off.
I thought the defense did some good things, but much like the other units they were unable to make gae defining plays to take control of the game. It really felt that the team needed somebody to make a play and that would lead to momentum.
The defense had a really hard time on first down it seemed like Col always got 4 or 5 or 7 yards on first down. I thought we had stopped them on that 4th and short and was surprised there wasn’t even a challenge on the spot, but I was viewing at a bad angle for it and they didn’t replay it on the video board. The dropped INT was the play of the game for me. We get that and we start in Buffs territory with a shot to take control, instead as we know they score a touchdown on that drive.
I don’t see any difference in the QB’s other than their skills sets, which we all know and have noted. They both throw behind receivers they both missed open receivers. Mitchell has NO threat to run and crumbles within any pressure. He needs about another 20lbs of muscle. He does throw a better ball but he doesn’t look like he has a strong arm, I was wondering if he could even reach the end zone for a Hail Mary from the 50, and they didn’t even try one.
To me Collins played the better game of the two. He scored the touchdown, had the teams second longest run, and was over 50% completion rate. I think his run threat should lead to more open receivers. I thought he was more patient waiting for the receivers to clear their routes better than the last two games. But in the second half it looked like he was looking to run too much, again and was undecisive with his vision. Mitchell threw the slant better in the beginning, but late started throwing off rhythm. He should have had a touchdown to Guyton. The problem with the QB’s sharing time going forward is defenses are going to know what each can do and will attempt to do when each is in there. It will be predictable.
I can’t stand our receivers. The “Best WR corp in the Pac12” is full of potential that end up not producing. Guyton has good size and speed, but you can’t have two offensive PI’s. Bolden seems to dropped everybody’s passes and it doesn’t matter how good the spiral is or isn’t or if it hits his hands or his chest.
I thought OL was decent, again though they had some costly penalties, and I don’t think Col front was anybody than ours.
The crowd was subdue and pretty light, plenty of empty seats. That was disappointing but it did make getting to and from the stadium alot easier.
I some bright spots, but as with a losing team there were more negatives than positives. The team needs to learn how to win. But before they can do that they need to find some confidence and I think that is something they develop from some leadership, which I still think is key missing element for this team. Need to find some personalities to lead this team.
Nall scored the touchdown.
LOTS of mistakes, and tough to sustain a drive with that shit going on. The two PI calls on Guyton, for instance…nonsense.
And seemed to me the pass protection wasnt good. When its clear you gotta pass, need some good pass protection.. Bolden is ridiculous in dropping passes but he wasnt the only one. So Mitchel would have looked better if no drops…
Bottom line, we were competitive for the first time in conference! Sure, against a bottom feeder like us, but still.. This conference has a lot of balance now.
I like the odds of landing Lucas.
Just a hunch, but i think he could be a silent commit. Both Wallace and Thompson waited till they got home and talked with family before announcing anything. I just have that same feeling here.
I’m just hoping we can get N’Keal Harry on campus at some point so we at least have a shot at landing him.
I dont think we shot at Harry. Check out this article I tweeted the other night. Think he ends up with his friend at aTm, UW or one of the Arizonas
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/recruiting/2015/10/23/recruiting-byron-murphy-nkeal-harry-want-play-same-college/74464120/
Really? I thought it was the other way around, AKA Harry was more likely than Lucas.
In any case, it still would be nice to get him on campus so we at least have a chance. And if he doesn’t end up committing here, I’m really hoping he goes to aTm so we don’t have to play him.
Does Kyle Peko have a chance of making it to the NFL?
He just has to pass one more class.
offtopic but RIP Flip saunders. Two days after it was announced he wouldn’t be coaching the T-Wolves this season he’s gone
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13968302/minnesota-timberwolves-coach-flip-saunders-dies-cancer-age-60
Very sad news.
New basketball (men’s) commit today. See twitter feed
I’m stoked for hoops! We’re gonna be nice for years I think. Btw this dude can flat out ball.
Post-Game Morning After Recap (includes Oregonian beat writer video):
https://t.co/qUI24xodUo
This is different than the links I posted this morning FYI – some interesting thoughts ^
By the way, apparently both Mizell and Moran got locked into Reser and had to scale a chain link fence to get out after meeting deadline. #Committed
Glad it was Mizell and not Schnell scaling that fence.
Oh that poor fence had it been. I’m not sure it would have had the structural stability to survive being scaled like King Kong scaled a building. Taps would be playing And we’d have had a moment of silence for the now fallen fence
Going forward, I’m for letting NM be quarterback. I think some of the passes he missed on are just timing problems that he will get better at with more practice reps. SC is an explosive player and needs the ball in space. I think he is our slot/wildcat/flysweep guy. If he can deal with the mental part of this, I think he could be successful… not sure if he would think this is a diss and check out. Ryan Nall is clearly the RB (both talent and necessity). But if I remember, Lucas was an RB in highschool right? He could probably take some snaps at RB for a change of pace. Injuries have forced this upon the Beavs.
Guyton and Villamin at WR. Bolden does returns and spot WR duty.
I said it before…
Ryan Na!!
Pretty much sums it up.
What about that brief setup where NM was the Qb, and Collins was in as a running back?? Pretty cool….
I think that is where the Beavs should be headed, except with SC in the slot and Nall in the backfield.
After checking the stats P. Lucas did play RB all 4 years of high school also did kick & punt return at Mountain Pointe H.S
went 14-0 then on to win a championship his Jr year. He seemed to find a silver lining when ever
he touched the ball. #Speed Kills
PHIL STEELE REPORT CARD WEEK 8 (COLORADO):
Projected Box Score Results (Projected/Actual):
Colorado Rushing: 144/188 (-44)
Colorado Passing: 181/140 (+41)
Colorado Total Yardage: 325/328 (-3)
Colorado Total Points: 31/17 (+14)
Oregon State Rushing: 185/202 (+17)
Oregon State Passing: 141/199 (+58)
Oregon State Total Yardage: 325/401 (+76)
Oregon State Total Points: 26/13 (-13)
Notable Positive Game Statistics
Oregon State rushed 41 times for 202 yards.
Oregon State held Colorado to 120 yards less than their season average.
Notable Negative Game Statistics.
Colorado outscored Oregon State 17-13.
Colorado had four more first downs than Oregon State.
Notable Positive Totals to Date:
N/A
Notable Negative Totals to Date:
N/A
Notable Positive Averages to Date:
N/A
Notable Negative Averages to Date:
Oregon State is completing 48.0% of their pass attempts on the season.
Notable Positive Home Averages to Date:
Oregon State is averaging 45 carries for 224 yards in four home games.
Notable Negative Home Averages to Date:
Oregon State is averaging a completion percentage of 50.4% in four home games.
Notable Positive Away Averages to Date:
N/A
Notable Negative Away Averages to Date:
Oregon State is averaging 260 yards of total offense in three road games.
Oregon State is averaging a completion percentage of 44.7% in three road games.
Oregon State is allowing an average of 523 yards of total offense in three road games.
Oregon State’s opponents average 43 carries for 235 yards rushing in three road games.
Oregon State’s opponents average a completion percentage of 69.4% in three road games.
Oregon State is recording a sack on 3.7% of their opponent’s snaps in three road games.
Oregon State is averaging a net yardage of -263 in three road games.
Oregon State’s offense averages 118 yards less than their opponent’s average in three road games.
Notable Positive Conference Averages to Date:
N/A
Notable Negative Conference Averages to Date:
Oregon State is averaging a completion percentage of 46.6% in four conference games.
Oregon State is allowing an average of 495 yards of total offense in four conference games.
Oregon State’s opponents are averaging 43 carries for 248 yards rushing in four conference games.
Oregon State’s opponents are averaging a completion percentage of 68.9% in four conference games.
Oregon State is recording a sack on 3.4% of their opponent snaps in four conference games.
Notable Positive Non-Conference Averages to Date:
Oregon State is averaging 45 carries for 214 yards rushing in three non-conference games.
Oregon State’s opponents are averaging 279 yards of total offense in three non-conference games.
Notable Negative Non-Conference Averages to Date:
Oregon State is averaging a completion percentage of 50.7% in three non-conference games.
Colorado Game Grade: 77.9
Season-To-Date Overall Game Grade: 73.2 (#93 out of #128)
Home Season Overall Game Grade: 79.5
Away Season Overall Game Grade: 64.9
Conference Season Overall Game Grade: 71.4
Non-Conference Season Overall Game Grade: 75.7
Anything about SF City College works for me.
(City College reply to BB re: new MBB hoops recruit)
Another hoops commit, and I’ve been hoping for a good, athletic Juco wing for about a year and change now. I like what Tinkle is doing. What’s next, a big guy? I wonder what’s in store.
Havent heard anything about marquell fraser since his visit. Anybody else?
Nothing. He’s quiet. If you want to ask questions, Jordan MacFarlane is the assistant coach at Hill Academy and would be in the know.
@coachmacYAACE
For once, I watched the video – egad, he plays inside and immediately goes up for a possible rebound.
I believe in one of last year’s mbb practice videos, WT referred to players who shoot the ball, then stand around, instead of going up for a rebound, as little birds waiting to be fed (or something like that).
Any angrybeavers on here with photoshop? Have a simple request to ask as a favor. Hit up beavrecruiting if you’re willing to help. I promise, it’s a simple task, i just dont have software for it.
Nevermind, got it covered
>120 posts and only 3 mentions of He Who Must Not Be Named. You guys are letting go. That’s good to see.
now of only some of the players could do the same…………….
*if
Because its getting kind of sad in Nebraska. I’m waiting for the corn cob effigies of him to be set ablaze with the next home loss.
It would be funnier if it was a popcorn cob effigy.
Riley…..if you go to a pep rally and there is a Widker Man set up…..RUN LIKE HELL…..
“Poopy pants”?
You can only describe the same fuck up in so many ways (but it’s fun to try)!
Postmortem for trip back to Corvallis:
Game: Pretty dead atmosphere. Seemed like a third of the crowd left at halftime and did not come back. What is the deal with that? The piped in music and chainsaw noise did not seem nearly as annoying as last year.
Nall….good
Mitchell…definitely an improvement over Collins.
Bolden….when you need a play, he is not the guy.
D tackles like crap. Buff RB looked like a pinball bouncing off our “tacklers.”
Sat next to an LSU fan from Baton Rouge. Nice guy but had breath that could knock a buzzard off a shit wagon. He was not overly impressed with the atmosphere.
Campus looked great. They have really added some nice buildings. Very fun seeing Beav stuff everywhere. I see that around the Twin Cities about as often as Sasquatch.
Another huge play was the missed 4th down in the first half. A QB sneak should have gotten that easy, but I guess they did not trust our beanpole to pick it up.
The play calling on the last two drives was very puzzling. Baldwin put too much pressure on Mitchell. A draw, shovel pass, or (wash my mouth out with soap) a patented Riley inside screen should have worked to take advantage of CU’s aggressiveness in trying to get to Mitchell.
Perhaps this why he has been such a nomad?
Bottom line is they have no margin for error,and the dropped INT was the dagger.
Why not just send in El Pollo Loco to hurdle the linemen on 4th down?
Speaking of weird decisions by DB, there was a drive where Nall was really getting it going. We ran the same play to him twice for a combined 25 yards. We ran it to him again for no gain and he clearly looked gassed. Then we ran it to him AGAIN for no gain, setting up a 3rd and 10. It was like watching someone playing a video game.
I was screaming for some play action that entire drive, the safety was biting hard. I did not like the play calling down the stretch.
I think the two injuries to the O line messed up the play calling, as in they were afraid NM would get sacked if the play action took too long to develop.
Those final drives were killer. I love Nall’s running, but why did we run him three times in a row? And then follow that up by passing 3 times in a row with Mitchell?
*Four times in a row!
I noticed that too. Run run run run, pass pass pass pass, run run run run… Baldwin must suck at Rock Paper Scissors
Talked to a source who put our chances at landing Lucas as “very good”, and Garcia around 30%
Harry wont happen. Only shot was if he visited and that ended before it started. Doubtful he leaves the state of Arizona because of family.
Garcia? Is he the guy who decomited from USC?
Yeah, 3*/4* DT
Ahh, cool, 30% is better than 0%.
30% better
Than 0%
Any idea what we’re recruiting Lucas for? As a running back?
Updated Performance Power Ratings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l2T3pgiHk1WKiNvQZUzWzWYR3Oo5HoBxrxcCbnl2LcY/edit#gid=27
Peruse for your amusement.
Thanks to Star for the links (at 9:31 am)
I suppose we’ll see a more complete presser with Andersen in the next few days, but I took note (maybe too much) of his comments at about the 4 minute mark. He indicated he “believes” the two QB’s accept the situation where they will have some more opportunities to “battle with each other”.
My takeaway: yes, we will see a two QB system, but quite possibly not for the entire balance of the season. OTOH, Andersen may simply be keeping the pressure on them both to improve.
It may only be my perspective, but because of how he said he believes the two accept things as they stand, I have doubts as to whether he is certain of that. StHC^2 may be balking……..or not.
OT: Was that Schnell asking a question at 1:20? And what was the “word” she used….pissed??
Here is the link again for any who don’t want to search back:
https://t.co/B7qU3qbb5B
And, I too have had problems with the WordPress Spam blocker. The Captcha doesn’t give me anything to copy. Not on a mobile.
I’m confused, I thought Schnell left and was working for SI or something? Why is she at a GA press conference? She’s still in the state? Shit, go have her cover the Huskers, so she can be with her daddy surrogate!
They ran out of food in Nebraska.
Yes, she is very much on the Beaver Beat – she does Talkin’ Beavers for Pac-12 networks – I don’t have Pac-12 network, so I’ve not seen it. Mike Parker, in the few parts of the Joe Beaver program I’ve heard, mentions her with reverence.
I think she’s been to all the press conferences and cover practice sessions, as well.
imo, bloody annoying.
Once a month, yes. But she’s always annoying
It was cool to see Ryan Nall get carries. And I’m in favor of packages with StHC in the backfield/slot and Mitchell as Qb1. But my big question is, where the hell are the tight ends? Do we have a tight end on the team?
Togiai looked to be out there on the majority of plays, we just didn’t throw to him.
Looks like the Huckster fans are on to Bruce Read.
Go to first new post Is the dedicated special teams coach giving us our money’s worth?
Started by Voice Of Reason, 14 Hours Ago
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No and we tried to tell you!
“The Special Teams coach is one coach that should be let go at the end of the season. HC Riley needs to show that he is willing to make changes to succeed If not we are just Oregon State east and the Football Program will not improve.”
This guy thinks Riley might actually change! HAHA! Freaking hilarious!
Someone needs to let him know half the reason Riley even went to Nebraska was so that he wouldn’t have to change his staff (allegedly and almost certainly)
Angry edited the Oregon state edits left in the hotel rooms for recruits. You really think people believe you can’t get media access but they’ll put your Twitter and website on recruit material?
Who is “you”?
Are you trying to not make any sense, or is it just your default?
Angry didnt edit that, and anybody with eyes can tell it’s not printed on the actual paper. Dont be so angry
So then what’s the point of it? Just to pretend?
What’s the point of what?
What are you even talking about?
To keep keep the thieves at the other site from using it as their own
It’s material the schools give to recruits… Being re-tweeted. Hardly an angrybeavs original.
There’a difference between re-tweeting and an original tweet, twat. Sorry you weren’t able to snag it and post it as your own. I guess you could always blur the parts that offend you…derp…
Wait… twitter?
Hold on, and let me go get my Twitter-Police hat so I can join you. I think I saw it under my I’m-Pathetic hat last week.
I could care less about Twitter. Just my opinion that it makes the angrybeavs website look minor league.
Obviously you do care about twitter, rivals, and AB. Shake it off, JP. Go play with your sock monkey collection.
I was out all day and didn’t edit anything.
I care about the Beavs, and have mentioned before I enjoy the recruiting info here. I don’t have Twitter, and don’t visit the rivals site either. So you know as much about me as QB’s. Not much
Who’s JP? Sorry Angry, or beavblazer. It appears that it was put there to make people believe angrybeavs was actually included in the poster given to recruits. If it wasn’t, my bad. Maybe I’m still upset that angry was so mean to me when he was wrong about QB’s and I was right
You are right so far. You were very close to being wrong. But you also were the only one who gave any time frame, even creating straw men as comparators… more than one. So while you are right so far, you can still be wrong. And while angry is not yet right, he can still be wrong, which does not yet make him wrong.
Poor guy. Your tangle of logic escapes you even now.
Sure Jack.
It’s all here dudelet. We’ve gone over everything you’ve posted together.
This is why this conversation is redundant. You’re a minutiae kind of guy.
And you’re a prick. And for what it’s worth, I’ve never started any conversation with you.
You weren’t right, and I wasn’t wrong.
I was wrong on 5 wins, though, most likely.
To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing. And that’s exactly what did and exactly what you are. Now you want a pat on the back for it.
How so? Angry you’ve never been right with me. I said MM was bad and had no chance of being a starter. That’s true. I said Collins should be the starter, that appears to be true.
You jumped me for being wrong, now you say I don’t say anything? If I never said anything, what did you jump me for?
I think between the two of us, one does care… obviously.
And then that one apparently has to span media with contextual idiocy in order to think he disproves that caring.
But then I don’t disagree with you or your words. You yourself said you could care less.
So you wanna rip me about being “Twitter police”, then you turn around with the spelling and grammar police?
It’s your game. I’m only playing it.
Ask someone in business Jack, or Angry. Putting your Twitter handle or logo on something that has nothing to do with you or what you’re representing is bush league.
Not really caring about twitter… still. It’s good for piecing together fragments of info, nothing more. You’re lost in the weeds and missing the bigger picture.
But then, this conversation is redundant.
Again, wasn’t Angry (or Jack)
FWIW, I just asked somebody at my place of employment, and they said it was a good idea since it actually does have something to do with this site. I’ll take your advice and try placing it a little further off center if you think that would be better. It’s ok to stop caring now.
Best not to argue with him when he gets like this. This is what I do: nod your head, pop some popcorn and head to the bedroom for some real housewives and fantasies of a better life.
Should have probably put the @beavsrecruiting in the corner. Where it is at kind of makes it look like @beavsrecruiting was part of the production.
nobody puts baby in a corner
Make Collins a WR. Let him do fly-sweeps and gazelle like catches.
Don’t forget the hurdles.
Just getting back from the victory parade this morning. Good times! Everyone thought your choice of running back/ play calling/ game plan was pretty funny.
Enjoy the down week you guys, we’re on the rise and headed for glory!
#Buffs
You had a victory parade? Did you fire MacIntyre? That’s the only victory, moral or otherwise, I can see for you. You’re certainly not winning the interwebs.
Heh heh… it could be worse. You could have Helfrich on staff still.
Really, why are we still responding to this loser? He’s not even a buff. In a few days he’ll be back as Booker’s Hooker or something else stupid pretending to be a Ute fan.
Cool!
Stupid it will be.
A glory hole maybe.
You held a victory parade for your mighty Buffs first conference victory in over two years against lowly Oregon St? Where was it held? In your mom’s basement? Did all of your stuffed animals attend? Details please. We’re all just sitting on the edge of our chairs dying to know.
I still think Collins would have been better for that last drive, at least he could have gotten us within striking distance by using his legs. Not really sold on NM, couple nice passes sure, but also missed intermediate throws, and he is pretty slow. Collins had 120 yards and NM 122, pick your poison I guess.
If Collins would’ve been better on the last drive, wouldn’t he have been better on every drive?
Yes I never thought NM should have started
I’d love to see both QBs on the field more. Would be a significant strain on opposing defenses. Seth might be the best athlete on the team, so if he’s not the starting QB I think you’d be remiss not to find another way to keep him on the field.
The Collins-to-Mitchell fake obviously won’t work more than once or twice, but I could see a Mitchell-to-Seth handoff (or fly sweep) where he can either keep it or throw it. That could be pretty potent, and tough to defend.
Harlow out for the year. Will’s Dad’s Son to start in his place.
What’s the injury? Ankle?
Ankle injury. Looked pretty bad. Harlow fell to the ground and ripped his helmet off. The training staff immediately put his ankle into a walking boot. When that happens, it’s usually a significant injury. He put no weight on his foot when he was carted off. They had crutches ready for him on the cart.
I made the comment Saturday night that I felt bad for him. He looked like he was going to cry knowing he had suffered a serious season ending injury (either that or he was in a shitload of pain). I don’t wish injuries on anyone except that cheap shot fucker Max Tuerk. Get well Sean
Well that was a dumb argument. Thank god Jacks Fat Wife was able to salvage it with some humor. In the meantime, when is Chase Lucas gonna commit? An offense with Garrettson at QB, Villamin and Guyton out wide, Paul Lucas in the slot, and a mix of Chase Lucas and Ryan Nall at RB looks pretty exciting on paper. Mix in Trevon Bradford here and there and we might start scoring in the (GASP!) 20s or 30s!
Also Beavblazer, keep up the good work. I really do believe that your Twitter account has done more for OSU recruiting and exposure than anything the Athletic department hacks have come up with in the last decade and it’s only growing. Great job
thanks, I think it has helped increase exposure for the program. If anything, it helps the recruits see that the fans are engaged. It wouldn’t exist if there wasn’t interest.
ditto!
Good read
http://www.buildingthedam.com/2015/10/25/9612110/oregon-state-struggling
Should have kept Collins in, but maybe this will get him doing whatever he needs to do
As in not being the guy
I understand Remmers was on JoeBeav today. Anyone hear Parker’s conversation with him? Bet one question which wasn’t asked was how come his penchant for false starts ended when he left the tutelage of the foul-mouthed bear crawler.
So, our new hoops commit is Keondre Dew, a guy with great bloodlines, he’s the nephew of Bryon Russell and cousin of OJ Mayo. I took a look at all the tape I could find today, here are my thoughts.
Originally part of the 2014 class, he was a consensus 3* recruit and held offers from over a dozen schools Florida State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, UConn, Kansas State, Memphis, Stanford and Oregon State among others, before finally committing to Tulsa. That offer list was impressive, so I think he could easily have been a 4 star guy. Played, but sparingly as a freshman. He left there after his freshman season, along with a bunch of other guys, it was a mass exodus, I can’t really find out why. He transferred to CC San Francisco, where he will play this season.
He’s got great size for the small forward position at 6’8″and about 215 lbs, with long arms and good hops. In general, he’s an active and willing defender in both man to man and zone, I’d say he’s currently a good perimeter defender, he has the quickness to guard the 2 or 3 at the college level and while he did play some PF at high school and I suppose he could match up against some college power forwards, but he’d struggle against the stronger guys at that position. He’s got a little point forward in him too, handles it well for his size, good vision on the fast break and in the half court. On offense, he has a quick spin move from the low block and he can take guys off the dribble from the outside too; the dude is a pure scorer. His shooting stroke looks only okay and there’s isn’t a ton of tape of him shooting from the perimeter, so it’s hard to say how good a shooter he is. Also, he played more 4 in high school, so he didn’t get a ton of reps. We’ll know more about his shooting ability after this JUCO season for sure. His real strength is going to be rebounding and defense at first, but I think he can develop a strong offensive game down the road because, as I mentioned, he’s got a natural feel for scoring. He plays with great energy most of the time, but can drift through plays once in a while. I don’t think he’s lazy, he just isn’t a Ruben Patterson type, if you remember that piece of shit. He has a high basketball IQ, he was often directing the players at Elev8 Academy if they got out of position.
I like him.
He was more of a post/slash/elbow 4 in HS. He didn’t qualify until late summer last year, so all the recruiting interest he had went away. Haith came on last year and had some spots to fill. So I think he just got bodies and tried to figure out if any fit.
Over the last year, he’s figured out the academic side and how to be a face up 3/4 with range to the arc. He’ll likely be a glue guy with length at first. If he moves and slashes without the ball well enough, he could be a clean-up combo swing for all the shooters.
42-10.
This one gets ugly early and there won’t be a letup. Catching a great team coming off a loss is not an advantage.