Let’s use this thread to discuss the first week of Fall camp, and discuss any rumors/ideas for a DT transfer target we can land before the season.
Dylan Boles is the only one I’m hearing about. A Stanford DE, but at 290lbs he could be turned into a DT. Another option is to have an OL play DT – this has a learning curve, so does anyone here know if Smith is having any OL try to make that conversion? Finally, Whitley might play. We know he has a tumor on his heart, but we don’t know if it’s benign or not (at least to my knowledge) or anything further about it. If it’s benign, he’s probably fine to play if he wants. Tumors on organs are not rare at all. We’d need more clarification on his condition, and hopefully get it in the coming days.
If 290 is right Boles already put on 35 lbs since high school, not sure how much bigger he can get and be productive. He was also a mid two star and has only played in 5 games at Furd. No stats which suggest special teams or very limited rotation. For a nose he’s too light and talent/experience doesnt suggest game ready.
We do have some huge OL like Sio and Darling that have the size. Making the switch probably requires a certain mentality to be successful.
Sio is strong as a bull and has good size. Was hoping head develop as an OLineman, but could see him playing well at DT
I’ve only ever seen his high school video in Alaska. Guy was pushing everyone around but also had 80 lbs on everyone haha. You have any recent sources in his progress?
Just basing it off those offseason Beaver combine videos and stats the team puts out. I believe Sio has the highest lift numbers in the weight room on the current team.
This is the only one I was able to find.
https://twitter.com/CoachRyanPayne/status/1232439371732619264?s=19
Holy crap. That’s advanced for a professional lifter. Elite status is 430’s for his weight class
I know the season is only 7 games or whatever…but I still gotta think we can eek out 2 wins! Thinking of dropping a bet on that o/u 1.5 line.
Easy money.
Is betonline legal and legitimate in Oregon?
What options are there for those who aren’t interested in internet betting?
I think you’d have to visit a sports book in one of the tribal casinos if you’re in oregon. I think the oregon lottery will bring back sports betting some time in the near future, but as far as I know they haven’t yet.
Speaking of tribal casinos, if anybody has visited all 3, how does ilani casino compare to Spirit Mountain or Chinook Winds?
If driving time was equal, which casino would be the best one to visit? I don’t gamble much but figure at some point I’ll end up checking out one of these places.
Yeah, that’s what I understood, in person only. I don’t know what bets are available at the MGM/Spirit Mtn; wonder if you can bet on total wins or, even, the Civil War (there, I said it!) this early.
I haven’t been to Ilani, but the wife and I have talked about going. Of all the casinos in Oregon, Spirit Mountain is by far our fav. The fancy restaurant is solid, but a bit over priced. The rooms are above average, and lots of options for gaming, and they have a sports book.
There is a sports bar inside with good food and lots of TVs. Booze is a little overpriced. Wife and I always bring some along and make trips back to the room to pour ourself drinks. They don’t seem to give a crap if you’re walking around drinking drinks you brought.
@OOB – Per the internets its totally legal and legit.
https://www.legalsportsbetting.org/betonline-review.html
I am set up on bet online for poker. You justy have to get crypto/bitcoin to fund it. Other than that its great.
The odds would suggest lots of people agree. It was -140 on betsonline last I looked. I think we have 4 wins in WSU, UW, Cal and Furd. I think UW and Oregon will be a problem without a decent presence at DT.
Cal will be tough this year. Very good qb and tough defense. I think that’s a toss up along with utah. I won’t count us out against anyone though. Been a few years since I said that.
I’m not sold on Cals defense without Weaver. They have some guys that look good but it will be a huge adjustment without that dude making 20 tackles a game.
Was looking with a degenerate gambler buddy through Bovada, etc… and it was at -150 though.
Unless it’s part of a parlay I personally can’t bring myself to bet if not at least winning even money.
Temped to toss a couple bucks on +6,600 to win the Pac though lol
+6600, I’ll put $65 on that. Chance for two months of mortgage at the cost of a decent dinner out with my wife. Yeah.
Camp begins Friday, per the GT.
In a piece announcing the departure of Cam Sanders (and others).
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-former-local-prep-stars-among-additions-departures-of-beavers-2020-roster/article_6914aeed-857e-5c6a-9ef2-3cd6d0aaa6f7.html
Someone here mentioned camps starting the 9th…hm who was that smart guy…
Kudos, buddy!
And I calculated the 10th. First time my public school math failed me!
oh thank man!! I’m glad someone took the bait!
Bennett is listed as 296. Even in the NFL you are seeing more NTs that barely are over 300. If Whittely can play and Bennett is at all a decent pass rusher I don’t think NT will be a super huge issue save for teams that run all 3 downs.
Skelton is 290ish and played there some last year, too.
Oh wow they JUST updated that roster. I went through the DL 2 days ago and the numbers were all different. I might do a full comparison post later. Skelton dropped 12 lbs. Bennet up 8, Whit up 25 (no way he can play effectively at 358), Shippen and Reichner down 1.
They got quite a few OL that are in the 340 neighborhood, seems too heavy.
There are a bunch of weight changes that make me wonder how conditioning went. Light and heavy.
Let me take this moment to say:
Yay, sports.
New Kicker on the roster: Dante Jackson, from Chico.
Oops, here are his Sailor Kicking highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHsTwDpwku8&feature=youtu.be
New Roster came out. I’ll be doing 2019-2020 roster comparisons by position for a few days but to kick things off here are the freshmen/transfers signing day roster vs 2020.
Freshmen/Transfers
Beason +1″ +2#
Bolden -2#
Pope -7#
Overmen No change
Spencer -1″ +9#
Newell +1#
Gulbranson -11#
Nolan No change
Kady +14#
Darling +40#
Fuaga +13#
Miller -19#
Walling -14#
Sione + 15#
Shippen +1″ -3#
Hardge -1″ + 2#
Julian -1″ +6#
Riley -1″ -2#
Wright -1″ +7#
Nice to see Lolohea putting on weight. Hopefully that means he’ll be ready to play sooner rather than later. I think he’s the ’20 commit I’m most excited about and we need more depth on the DL.
Actually, that 250 lbs even looks fishy.
Its kinda hard to say with the Frosh. I think the signing day stats are also pulled from their profiles/self reported. Some of those weights might still be from their junior year of high school. The 2020 ones should be as measured on campus so they should be accurate.
Also, you missed Logan Horton weighing in at 238. I can’t wait to start seeing some FB sets!
Ah he wasn’t on the signing day list so i missed him. Isn’t he a PWO?
Correct. Still…#1 FB in the country!
Why didn’t he go to Columbia????
SportsbetMontana doesn’t have the option to bet on OSU to win more than 1.5 games during the 2020 season. I really want to place a bet. Any suggestions?
betsonline is ran out of panama and has that bet.
Thx
Please share your experience if you decide to deal with BetOnline. I notice that bets can be placed with a credit card BUT winnings aren’t credited back to the card.
From the site under Payouts/Withdrawals: Western Union and MoneyGram are money transfer services that have reasonable withdrawal minimums ($50) and fees (which vary with the amount sent), and take only 12 to 36 hours for delivery.
I won some money on Bovada, might have still be Bodog back then. The checks came from the Royal Bank of Canada.
I will if I win haha
OOB: I haven’t tried BetOnline. Last season I tried signing up with Bovada (because I have friends who have been using them for years and never had a problem with payouts) and it was a complete pain in the ass. They run promo’s like matching the first deposit up to $500.00 etc, but the caveat is most major credit cards have the sites flagged and reject the transfer. I tried with everything I had and none of it worked.
The gambling sites really want Bitcoin now a days. So I researched how to grab that safely, decided upon and downloaded CoinBase, linked a spare bank account, made the transfer and got my first bitcoin (well fraction of bitcoin.) I really wanted to bet the OSU Cowboy game. When going to transfer the bitcoin fraction to Bovada I got hit with a mandatory 7 day hold on the first deposit. Therefore, I ended up just leaving the money in Coinbase and it’s probably been more fun playing with penny stock type Crypto-currencies then losing money on the beavers lol. And at this point a year later I’ve doubled what I put in.
Thanks dwill, think I’ll just try to make it to Spirit Mtn.
I currently use both Bovada and BetOnline. As a warning, BetOnline has over 1.5 wins at -220. I wouldn’t use a credit card as those sites add surcharge fees.
I was able to view this article yesterday, but now I’m receiving a “subscribers only” message and am blocked.
If it works for anybody else, it’s an OLive D-Line season preview, from July, before Whitley’s tumor news.
Tibesar sounds pretty upbeat, but one of the keys is having Whitley in shape and ready to go. That nose tackle position is one of the first things mentioned.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2020/07/oregon-state-2020-football-position-preview-defensive-line-has-come-a-long-way-in-two-years-but-more-progress-is-needed.html
Whittley out indefinitely:
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2020/10/oregon-state-defensive-tackle-jordan-whittley-out-indefinitely-coach-jonathan-smith-not-ready-to-say-hes-out-for-season.html
Welp, that sucks. The idea that he might be available at some point during the season would be better to treat as if he won’t be available. They need another disruptive big body on the DLine ASAP.
Thanks for posting
So he still gets another year right since this year doesn’t count?
Luck O da Beavs….
I’d like to throw $100 on the Beavs winning 2 games. What’s the easiest/best site to do it?
I’m gonna put $50 on this link
https://beta.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/ncaaf-futures/conference-futures
Thanks NB – Not bet before and read that futures betting is simplest and for beginners. I hope so. I don’t get how the vegasinsider has 1.5 over/under but the line I think I need to use on the website to make the bet says +1000.
Bovada has the most intuitive interface and good customer service from my experience. They have over 1.5 wins at -160 currently
I like the odds there, both for the Beavs and against the Ducks. But that’s for the conf champ.
How about betting on the Beavs to win 2 games?
Geez, I hope the Beavs are going to do better than 1-6 or 2-5. That would be a wasted season. The local media are really hyping the Ducks to win it all, but I read one of the national sites (I think Bleacher Report) and they weren’t buying the Quack hype. They said the personnel losses and graduations are real and the Ducks have never had smooth QB transitions except for the Vernon Adams transfer.
Not sure if this subject has been ever been covered on Angrybeavs?
It is coming up on two years since my wife passed away and it sucks being alone, so I am going to enter the cesspool of online dating. Ugh. Any words of wisdom from fellow Beavs that have done this? Thx.
I think the best advice I can give is don’t force anything due to loneliness, and avoid any woman who has a stench of desperation. Let something organic and natural come to you.
Isn’t online dating inherently unnatural?
So is jerking off, but I don’t want to be lonely and need carpel tunnel surgery.
The happiest lonely song ever. Dance like nobody is watching, BG!
Masturbation is unnatural? Where did you go to school? Bob Jones University?
Maybe he went to fleshlightU. I hear that feels a bit more natural than a hand.
Bob had me expelled…
Good old Guardian.co.uk
I came across this during pandemic page-scrolling. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/sep/12/blind-date-ella-josh
It seems, in that age group at least, there is a significant check list. They were fun to read though.
You don’t have to register – if you move down a couple of paragraphs, there is ‘I’ll do it later.’
The 2-year anniversary of my wife’s passing is in 2 days (Oct 9) and I’ve done the online dating thing a fair bit since so…right there with ya.
I’ve heard the online dating experience varies pretty significantly by gender depending on where you live, and if there’s a gender imbalance in that area (Seattle has a lot more men and so strongly favors women; NYC is the opposite).
For me in the Portland area, it wasn’t very hard to find quality dates (at least based on what you can learn from an online profile), but it took a whole lot of dates to find someone genuinely interesting. I saw a lot of bland “sameness” along the way. The good news is that you can control how many dates you go on, and thus how quickly you’re moving towards meeting the right person. The bad news is that online first dates get old really, really fast.
I guess my advice would be not to settle and wait for someone that you’re really excited about. And to be prepared for the fact that it might take a lot of dates to find that person.
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I remember that, so sorry man. From my initial dive into a site, if I was 9-10 years younger there would be huge pool.
Apparently the early 50’s are rough on marriages. Should have been a divorce attorney, they seem to have as reliable of a client base as undertakers.
Thx.
Down im small town Roseburg, online dating is a joke. All the tweaker chicks flood the inbox looking for someone to fund their bad habits and the normal ladies think they are supermodels won’t give the time of day to any dude who is not at least 6ft tall and built like a bodybuilder. I though I could get by with my extensive knowledge of carrots but no dice
^this.
The ratio of men to women in the online dating world is 10 to 1. Lots of married guys use it for sex. I was told that by numerous women. Lots of bat shit crazy bitches too. I met my fair share of broken females. With them being outnumbered by that much, they tend to think they’re a 10 and won’t give you the time of day. You’ll message with quite a few rude skanks who think they are gods gift to men no matter how polite you are. Stay away from PoF. I suggest match.com. I had better success there. Don’t get discouraged.
A few simple rules to follow
1. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is
2. If she wants to meet almost immediately, run away.
3. Quite a few fake profiles. See rule 1.
Haha. Good advice…
Haven’t been in your situation, but have been through a divorce. All I can say is life does get better again.
I didnt find my spouse via online dating and online dating just wasnt for me. We met on a flight and the conversation started organically and just felt right. So I guess I’m echoing Angry’s sentiment and totally agree with that approach.
COVID has quashed opportunities for that, unfortunately.
BeeG: I’ve never had the need to use a dating site but I know there are some real gems out there. In two cases with direct knowledge I’ve thought to myself “wow, that woman was using a dating site?”, meaning, I wouldn’t have thought it was necessary for her to do so. Give it a shot.
Bring em to Surprise!
I expect to some degree, how genuine people are in presenting themselves is still the key, just as it is in non on-line dating.
I’ve had a few women tell me they use the online dating services almost exclusively to meet people for sex, so be prepared.
Finally some good news ^^^^
I think you’ll have a better pool with the older crowd. I talked to some really beautiful older ladies who had things together… Read the profiles, it’ll ween out a lot of nut cases… Also utilize the age range… It defaults to a way bigger range than I am comfortable with… I recommend not getting to excited about first matches… A lot of people are non responsive and get your hopes up… For me I have found that I wait until I’ve chatted someone up for a week before going on the first date… That pace may not work for everyone but it does for me
Thanks. That’s sounds like a rational approach. I love the warnings about not giving credit card or bank information!
So some people are really that stupid?
Apparently Brenda from Coon Rapids has taken quite a fancy to me. Six unreturned message in two days. My first cyber stalker.
I’ve enrolled in Google Jr. High!
Beavergopher:
I don’t have personal experience with online dating sites but anecdote wise from others, it is somewhat a hit-and-miss experience (more negative, which is why est. a pragmatic set of goals might be helpful first). I agree with a lot of the advice already given in terms of being prudent.
One suggestion (w/o knowing what your online presence is like) I don’t believe any one else has mentioned is that online dating sites are not the only legitimate platform in which to meet people. Several friends I know met, subsequent had long term relationship with, and presently are married today through avenues like online gaming, hobbies that had an online component etc. Ymmv.
Be open to consider those possibilities as well!
Angry, hows the bod feeling after the rear ender?
Felt like I pulled a muscle today. I wonder if it’s that theory someone here had that you use other muscles to compromise for the area that got injured? But overall so so. Thanks, man.
I hope you are talking about the car wreck.
Yes your body will try and compensate. A few years ago my old knee injury acted up. So I walked with a limp, wich threw my lower back out of alignment giving me lower back pain to go with my knee pain. Ended up having surgery on my knee and after proper rehab my knee was good and my lower back quit hurting
Yup, I broke my ankle when I was 18. Rushed rehab to get back on the field. Then developed patella tendinitis the next year. 20 years later I’m still dealing with it. Make sure you tell your doc about new pains that pop up and nip them in the bud before they get worse. Don’t be dumb 18 year old me FWIW.
Something funny with CBS Pick’em now, here’s the message I get when trying to make picks:
This pool uses custom spreads and they have not been submitted by the pool manager for the current week.
Try now. Not sure what happened but they removed my spread for LSU. I re-added it and then it showed my existing picks from yesterday were all still intact.
Bingo. Works fine now.
Thanks for all the work you do, both the pick’em and recruiting!
That Clemson game is interesting. Miami finally with a good qb but Clemson’s defense is always stout. I think Clemson wins but will they cover the spread???
Cool, thanks for letting me know. I wasnt receiving any notices from CBS that there was a problem, so i would never have known. That’s one problem with the setup thia year. No automated spreads and the system seems glitchy. Not sure if I’ll have a way to override the game selections once Pac12 play starts. Ideally I’d like to have 6 Pac12 games and then backfill with other conferences if it will let me.
I can see beavs only winning 2 but would be shocked if they won less… but beating WSU is extremely important. I think defense can be pretty good… bend don’t break forcing lots of turnovers. Concern is stopping the run… which could make UW, UO, Utah, Stanford games difficult. Cal is probably toughest home game with Utah biggest road challenge. If fact, the Utes could destroy Beavs because they have some incredible talent backfilling on D and will commit to run.
Best case/dream season (if offense leads conference in scoring)… we beat WSU, UW, UO, Cal, Stanford and lose to Utah. 5-1 is good enough to win North and we play undefeated USC in LA for PAC12 championship. USC wins and is selected for final 4. Beavs play Penn State in Rose Bowl.
More realistic… beat WSU, Stanford plus 1 vs UO/Cal/UW. Lose to Utah and finish 3-3 to play UCLA in final game in Corvallis. Beavs win to finish 4-3
Even more realistic… COVID spikes and Beavs only play 5-6 total games.
Whatever the case, bet $110 on over 1.5 wins and put $100 on Beavs to win conference… +10,000. $110 bet covers the $100 bet (as long as Beavs win 2) and you have chance to win $10,000 for free:-)
There’s no way a Clay Helton team will win the P12 championship. His teams always have a few complete trainwreck games every year. ASU looks like the team to beat in the South.
Every team does. Look at ASU (Beavs were a power house) and the quacks last year. That is why the conference gets little respect. No guarantee even with 6 games that a team has to be undefeated in order to win their division.
Was chatting with someone who knew Sio from HS. Said he played OL primarily, but played 2 way about 50%of the time and he’s very capable of playing the DT position if needed.
Doesnt mean a whole lot since it was HS and it’s not anybody on our coaching staff, but good to know he is at least familiar with playing on the opposite side of the ball already.
So it looks like OSU administration and Smith agreed that Marco Brewer is okay to play despite him pleading guilty to felony coercion before being recruited by OSU. I watch a little tape on the guy who plays offensive line. He basically bull-doses people. I wonder if he’d make a good candidate for a change over to DT.
Another possible option. Looks like he played some DT on his HS Hudl film, but was exclusively playing OL at Laney. Might be one of those guys we need to keep on the OL just because of his age/experience.
Our OL is such a question mark but is loaded with potential. 2 prior year starters who should be solid starters this season(Kipper/Nous) and then 3 potential veteran starters with question marks because we haven’t seen them play much at all(Eldridge/Sorenson/Brewer) and we have several young guys with some experience who likely have developed(Vanderlaan/Clarke/Gray/Levengood/Wellsfry/Bush) and a bunch of young unknowns in Montibon/Ferenczi/Miller/Darling/Suing/Morano/Fuaga/Sio)
Not sure how Quillen fits in too.
lots of capable bodies to rotate around and work with, but we don’t have a group of sure starters outside of Kipper/Nous and Eldridge. OL could actially be a strength these next few years as the young guys get experience.
I had high hopes for Eldridge, still waiting.
I see Ryan Nall in the Bears game just in time to see him with a false start.
Channeling his inner Remmers.
Go Bears ;)
Bummer he didn’t get a touch. Montgomery isn’t terrible but he has no real explosiveness like you’d expect for a RB taken in the 3rd round. I think Nall could compare favorably.
Off topic: If you haven’t done so, I do not recommend watching Netflix movie American Murdered: The Family Next Door. Especially if you have kids. Very sad and just beyond the basic murder mystery entertainment story. I haven’t been that disturbed trying to go to sleep in a long time.
Sounds good. Can’t wait to watch.
Just watched it, and concur. Disturbing.
Nick Daschel has a Q&A piece up today. I can view it for a few seconds before the screen flips to a “subscribers only” popup and the article disappears. But I did get a glimpse of the first question which is from the @beavrecruiting account regardimg DT. Glad I could help contribute to an article I’m not allowed to read.
Also, looks like the Oregonian has figured out a way to push away more readers. Wonder how that’s going to work out for them?
Hahaha. You should tell him this on Twitter.
Yeah, exclusive bogus. Try writing good stuff and you will have readers and be able to sell ads.
Nice beav… You can read the article from your phone… Just click on the article and quickly switch your phone to airplane mode… It gets around almost all of those stupid subscriber blocks… From what I’ve seen the exclusive stuff is garbage anyway… Go figure ?
And if you ever had a screen name for commenting there in the old days, you can sign in with that.
Chuck’s right, mostly garbage there.
Oh nice! I didnt know about the airplane mode trick. That makes it easy, thanks for the tip.
Agree, he doesnt really answer anything other than to acknowledge these are questions he should follow up on during camp.
Another method I found that works on phone and desktop is to go into browser settings and disable javascript before viewing the page. It usually prevents paywall popups from getting triggered. Doesn’t work for every site, but it has proven to be useful in the past.
I understand them making content exclusive that is well researched long form type stuff that took weeks or months of work to put together. Answering some Twitter questions doesn’t seem like it should be exclusive.
This showed up in my Google news feed. Sounds like we missed out on a great kid.
https://www.jambase.com/article/spencer-petras-grateful-dead-fan-iowa-hawkeyes
Channgesss…QB/RB/TE edition
QB
Gebbia 6’2 201# (+8#)
Nolan 6’3 200#
Moore 6′ 199# (+8#)
Chryst 6’2 204# (+1#)
Gulbranson 6’3 209 #
RB
Jefferson 5’10 217# (+3#)
Baylor 5’11 209# (+1#)
Tyler 5’8 215# (+12#)
Lowe 5’9 195#
Madison 6’1 201# (-17#)
Newell 6’1 211#
Shannon 5’8 184# (-1″ +7#)
Morton 5’9 177# (+3#)
Alfieri 6′ 194# (-1#)
Horton 6’1 238# (Hes a fullback)
TE
Musgrave 6’6 252# (+16#)
Quitoriano 6’6 265# (+9#)
Overman 6’4 235#
Spencer 6’5 259#
Malik 6’2 233#
Bramascher 6’4 235# (-1″ + 7#)
Taufa’asau 6’4 245# (+9#)
Madison shed 17 lbs? Wonder if that was intentional? Seems like he was qt a good weight before.
Dis he give his food to Calvin Tyler?
I was surprised by that one too. I thought he was going to be aiming for a long stride monster but it looks like that isn’t the plan.
I expect Tyler will be great for short yardage with that size.
Madison and Newell have been the primary RB commits with this staff and they have similar body types. Coincidence?
Are we Moneyballing on tall, skinny RB’s?
Jefferson was also from this staff. He was a late add in Smith’s first class
I think TE could be a real strength.
I’m finding myself feeling very optimistic about our chances in this short season. Hope it’s not just the normal high hopes of a long (LONG) time beaver fan! I’m buying into Angry’s position.
Husky baseball program was caught cheating. Looks like they’ll be vacating some wins, among other penalties.
https://twitter.com/KendallRogers/status/1314636046534168576?s=19
Is that fucker Meggs still the manager? Too bad they couldn’t investigate the travesty from ’16 when he helped deny the Beavs a tourney bid!
Yup he’s still there, along with his kid.
Here’s that slimeball’s reaction:
“I’m disappointed for our baseball program and for every Husky player past and present who is dealing with today’s news,” said Meggs, head baseball coach. “Since taking over this program, my coaches and I have made it a priority to build and foster a culture of integrity and compliance, ….”
You read that right, he actually used the word “INTEGRITY”!
Since this may be the only season in history when no one will be in the stadium for the Rose Bowl, does invoking the Luck of the Beavs rule increase the Beavs chances of winning the conference and getting to the Rose Bowl this year?
I think it takes the likelihood up to around 85% chance they go to the Rose Bowl…
I like your thinking, OB, but we caught a break, since the Rose Bowl is a CFB semi-final game. Unless, unless, OSU has its best season since 2000, goes 7-0 in dominating fashion, and the committee can’t keep them out of the playoffs. Now THAT would be luck of the Beavs
Wide Receiver Edition
Bradford 6′ 182#
Lindsey 5’9 182# (-11#)
Harrison 6’1 191#
Irish 6′ 173# (+1”)
Stewart 5’10 172# (+10#)
Gould 5’8 171# (-1#)
Flemings 5’5 141#
Taylor 5’11 210# (-1#)
Beason 6′ 197#
Dockery 5’11 198# (+6#)
Walker 6′ 188#
Munyagi 6’2 198# (+4#)
Pope 6’2 163#
Bolden 5’8 148#
OLB Edition
McCartan 6’5 226# (+3#)
Tago 6’2 225#
Hamilcar 6’4 235# (-1#)
Gumbs 6’3 250# (-1” +8#)
Brownholtz 6’3 223# (+3#)
Hughes-Murray 6’2 244# (-3#)
Kady 6’2 214#
Sharp 6’6 240# (+1” +4#)
Franke 6’3 216#
Garcia 6’4 256# (+8#)
WR light edition. Only one over 200.
Wait.tell you see the ILB. Most of.them.lost a ton of weight. Might be going to a speed strategy
That’s what you get when they’re all short.
How is Flemings still 141 pounds? Seems crazy considering the strength program and unlimited food.
Maybe some DT help in the future
https://www.recruitingnewsguru.com/interview-new-2022-serra-og-marion-miller-jr-is-a-one-man-dl-mover/?fbclid=IwAR3b-MRjTI-at_udU8oKmR8rDgFVOymNo0pXnC8nj3xoj3_0wyOVlCHRd0k
Piggyback on a previous thread. “Power Up” releases November 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNhn1KOqq8g
Post-practice quotes from both JS and Bradford highlighted how good the passing game was. Sounds like our man Geb! has good chemistry with the receivers.
Also of note: JS says they’re still ok at DT with Hodgins, Rawls, Skelton, Sandberg and Cody Anderson (?)
Hodgins is like 265 now,
Yeah that position is going to be a huge question mark all year. Only a couple guys with normal DT size. Would have been really nice if Moore had stayed.
It seems to me like Smith would rather compromise on size than athleticism at the DT position. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the 3-4 that OSU runs only asks the DT to cover 1 gap so I think having the big 340 pound NT is not as necessary as a system that requires the NT to cover 2 gaps.
Not to say we don’t need a 300-340 pound monster in the middle it is just clear we struck out on those and really that is probably the most scarce position when it comes to recruiting. Lots of guys in the mid 300s that are just guys that take up space. Very few guys that size that actually do things.
Hamilcar functions as a speed rusher anyway. At times last year, I considered him a DE.
It’s called an EDGE in the NFL. Primarily edge rushing lb
I’m looking at all of these massive OLines we’ll be facing.
Oregon has multiple 6’5″+ 320lb+ OL
UW and Utah have pretty much the same, maybe a little lighter.
WSU’s guys are a little lighter but still averaging 300+
Stanford and Cal have tall guys but a little lighter, around 280-300lbs mostly.
I don’t know how you can throw out a bunch of 260-280 lb guys and expect to win any trench battle this year. Maybe against Cal or Stanford they could match up, but the rest of those teams should be able to pick up 3rd/4th and short any time they need to.
Get a few stops and then outscore ’em.
I’m worried that Mario is building a SEC model team along both lines. That may negate a lot of coaching deficiencies he has.
The whole concept is for the three linemen to take up 4 OL so the ILB can hit gaps. Alot to ask with a 270 lber in the middle
This^^^
I don’t think that is the concept in the 1 gap 3-4.
Don’t we primarily run a 2 gap?
This is going WAY back but I’m remembering Air Force Academy defensive lines from when one of my sons was there. Always smaller but normally quicker and I watched them take down a big Notre Dame team and many others.
Beavs had an all-american center back in the Giant Killer days who weighed round 195.
Just sayin’
John Didion?
BYU has what essentially amounts to a Mountain West schedule this year, but they’re also pretty good and are dominating on the scoreboard through 3 games.
So if BYU runs the table, do they somehow sneak into the college football playoff this year? It seems more pissible this year than any. And what happens to that CFP money? Do they keep it all? Usually teams have to share it across their conference but BYU being independent could get a huge payout just for making it in, unless there’s some rule in place where they have to split it. I have no idea
They have to give 90% to the church…
I don’t think they get a look. It’s more like a Sun Belt/C-USA schedule at times. Houston and Boise St will be the challenges for them. Navy seems to have fallen off a cliff this season, so that win is not as impressive as it may have been.
UNC looks elite this year. Absolutely unstoppable on offense. That program will continue to get better each year because they will eventually monopolize in-state recruiting.
With respect to the CFP, I don’t think the Pac-12 will get a team in even if one goes 8-0. My early predictions are:
-Alabama
-Clemson
-UNC
-Ohio State
It’s going to be Ohio State’s year. ASU will win the Pac-12, get a Rose Bowl berth, and Washington goes to the Fiesta Bowl at 6-2. Beavs get the Holiday Bowl at 5-2. Ducks get Sun Bowl at 4-3.
Mack Brown + UNC’s already shady history with recruiting violations will eventually catch up to UNC.
For now, they can enjoy the ride.
Most of the games I’ve been watching today have had a common theme, atrocious tackling. Beavs can learn a lesson from all these and make sure their tackling is ahead of their opponents when the season starts.
Texas fans are going to turn on Tom H if they lose again to OU.
Red River game is fantastic!
Topic of tackling well: Rashed, Speights and McCartan are all guys I notice don’t miss or lose on tackle opportunities. D-line talent may be countered by having exceptional linebackers that swarm on the snap and don’t miss tackles as well. I think this is Tibesar’s strategy to forego huge slow d-line for aggressive and elite linebackers who tackle very good. The trade-off is short yardage but the gain will be many tackles for loss that opponent must overcome in the process. I hope this is sound and shows a calculated decision based on striking out on the huge 4* DTs so far.
I agree, I think he’s adapting to what he has vs square pegging them into rolls.
Roberts should be in that list too. He and speihhts are the most reliable tacklers and play readers on the team.
Speights is probably my favorite player on this team, and that’s not a knock on anybody else because there are quite a few players I like. It’s a very un-Riley like squad. There aren’t positions where I’m questioning how the 2 deep ever made a Pac12 roster. (Aside from kicker, where we havent seen much from anybody on this roster)
Didnt we have something like 3 defensive backs from last year’s roster end up on Big Sky teams this year? Manning, Cotton and Hicks-Onu come to mind. I guess we need to see the Wrights and Julian show they are upgrades before I can say we are good at those spots
DBs that Smith have brought in:
2018
Wilson (no show), Bettles (no show), Robinson (practice team guy)
2019
Forest (Solid underclassmen, misses tackles), Arnold (Looked great last year in limited action), Russell (Practice team mostly?), Austin (Solid young guy, tackles well and has a nose for the ball), N. Wright (Pretty decent last year), Richards (No show)
2020
R. Wright, Julian, Riley, Hardge
2021
Madison
Julian is going to be really good. I can see him getting burned in the early games, but by season end he’ll be good. Reminds me of Poyer a bit.
Whetzel transferred also.
Was Brock Purdy ever officially a Beav or just a target? He’s pretty good.
Might be confusing him with Petras who was a Beav then went to Iowa not Iowa St.
Petras was verbal commit but decommitted. Purdy was a late cycle target who nobody had picked up, but as soon as Alabama showed interest we just gave up on recruiting him.
Then Alabama backed off but we were already out of the picture so one of the Iowa schools snatched him up.
His brother is supposed to be a top recruit this year. I’m not sure where he is going, but would have been nice to have one or both of them, bit we chickened out
Just checked, his brother was a 4* 2020 QB commit to FSU.
https://247sports.com/player/chubba-purdy-46076928/
Chubba Purdy??!
I’m glad we passed on him – too much of a TWSS name.
He could be Javaris Jamar Javarison-Lamar for all I care. Ballers always welcome.
Did you have to say “ballers”?
Ha!
Changes OL Edition:
Welsfry 6’5 292# (-1#)
Vanderlaan 6’4 280# (+13#)
Suing 6’3 293# (+5#)
Sorensen 6’2 303#
Sio 6’3 347# (+3#)
Quillin 6’1 277#
Napierkowski 6’4 249# (-15#)
Morano 6’5 252#
Montibon 6’2 281# (-10#)
Miller 6’1 261#
Levengood 6’4 295# (+11#)
Kipper 6’6 304# (-1#)
Keobounnam 6’2 275# (-10#)
Gray 6’4 289# (+2#)
Fuaga 6’6 338#
Ferenczi 6’5 287#
Espinoza 6’4 295# (+16#)
Eldridge 6’4 282# (-18#)
Darling 6’4 350#
Clarke 6’4 334# (+24#)
Bush 6’6 289# (-1” +9#)
Brewer 6’4 296#
My analysis is that the guys Smith brings in are way bigger.
Jaelen Bush was around 220lbs I think when he arrived from highschool. He was slim from basketball season but then also stayed fairly light when he was a DE at OSU. Now he’s 289??!!
I havent seen him since last year during the season and he already seemed quite a bit bigger at 280. Just a few years ago he was a skinny 6′ tall HS freshman
Bush is on the Trump diet.
The lady and I are going to watch some classic Westerns. Let’s hear some recommendations.
The Proposition is a good one and a good story… Open Range, Appaloosa, 3:10 to Yuma(Remake), True Grit(remake)… and of course the all time classic Dances with Wolves are all great
I’m not interested in anything new. Hence the “classic” westerns. But thanks.
On the list so far:
Stagecoach
Good, bad, ugly
Once upon a time in the West
Shane
The Searchers
The Wild Bunch
I recently watched Once Upon A Time in the West too.
Will be curious to hear your thoughts.
Let us know if you come across any gems. I need some good titles to watch
The Outlaw Josie Wales
True Grit
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
For A Few Dollars More
Fistful of Dollars
Blazing Saddles ;)
jeremiah johnson…especially since you live in colorado
Is tombstone a classic? Not historically accurate but pretty fun to watch
I wouldn’t call Tombstone a classic, it is awesome though.
Need to add Two Mules for Sister Sarah to the list.
Put “High Noon” on your list, Angry. Gary Cooper’s best movie. Of those already mentioned, Shane is my favorite.
I’m sure not a classic by the Purist standards, but I always enjoyed Silverado. But I’m not a huge western guy
Check out “Rustler’s Rhapsody.” It’s all clean humor, but pretty funny. It drags a bit in the middle but the good parts are worth it. Its a kind of satirical tribute to the OLD western movies of the 30s and 40s.
I don’t consider “Jeremiah Johnson” a western necessarily, but it is great. Not too many movies excel with so little dialogue.
Agree on “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.”
“Little Big Man” is great.
I was gonna say tombstone and jeremiah johnson but a couple of you degenerates beat me to it. Tombstone is one of my personal favorites
The Shootist, Hang ‘em High, War Wagon.
Rio Bravo, 3:10 to Yuma (original), Ride the High Country
“The Cowboys” – John Wayne movie is a fav. This probably doesn’t qualify but City Slickers is a classic to me.
Alabama/OleMiss is pretty entertaining. Tied up with 11:30 to go. Lane Kiffin’s offense is pretty entertaining. They’re not great, but they’re unpredictable and scrappy.
That was a great game. Bama was lucky to win it. Score does not reflect the closeness of the game.
Lsu is proof you can’t make up for lack of experience with talent. Their defense is terrible with 4-5 stars all over the field.
New dc doesn’t help either.
Where did the old DC go? Wasn’t that the dude who wouldn’t come to osu with anderpants?
baylor
Yes. Dave Aranda is now at Baylor. God I was so pumped having watched his D in person. And then he wasn’t…
Bo Pelini…more proof that Nebraska is the gift that keeps on giving.
Haha
Leach experiment goes haywire beating LSU. Lost 24-2 today with his QBs throwing 6 picks and no TDs or any scores on offense for that matter.
New meaning to “pick 6.” Is that a record??
There was a pick 6 among the 6 interceptions.
LSU’s defense is proving to be pretty crappy this year, especially by SEC standards, but the Leach experiment has come off the rails the past two games.
Beavs have their forst 2021 decommit. Jaylen Martin is out.
https://twitter.com/jay2mighty/status/1315379951630196738?s=19
He’s the guy from Florida, which I thought was the most unexpected commit in this class. But Smith normally has a pretty good track record of keeping commits on board.
Alex Lemon would count too? Room for an OL or DL commit!
So, Gruden just went for it on 4th and 1 from the very same spot Smith did vs. WSU last year. Great coaching, in both cases, better execution by the Raiders. You can’t turn the ball over to a team that can move down the field quickly; WSU last year, Mahomes today. Smith made the right call.
The risk on a 4th and 1 vs 4th and 6 is a key factor in play calling, no?
I will concede that from the orthodox standpoint, (including the commentator who thought Gruden should have punted and turned it back over to Mahomes who, WSU-like, scored a TD on his previous possession in less than 90 seconds) going for it on 4th and 1 is an easier decision than 4th and 6th (wasn’t it 4th and 4 though?), but the larger point is that you shouldn’t run the risk of trusting your fate to the sudden onset of inefficiency from your opponent (Leach and Mahomes).
These aren’t even comparable scenarios. Field position and down are similar, but outside of that the Raiders had several other factors which made the sneak a more favorable play call.
Raiders: 4th and 1
Beavs: 4th and 4
Raiders: 2:00 remaining
Beavs: 1:14 remaining
Raiders: 8 pt lead
Beavs: 5 pt lead
Hate to relive it, but Smith made the wrong call and missed out on his first shot at a Bowl game.
Gruden had very low risk of losing the game regardless of his call as Chiefs would have had to score 3 more times at a minimum. Would have had to give up a TD and 2 pt conversion and then also lose in overtime. For the Beavs, giving up a single TD was game over. Should have made the field long for WSU with only 74 seconds to work with and no timeouts.
You’re being kind. It was such a bad call.
Finally! A 4th down argument!
JS was right to go for it. Our defense had stopped their offense on very few possessions and the odds of converting there were good enough to justify being aggressive.
Yeah, but how bad is the Raiders’ defense?
Saw CJ posted earlier about an all american DT from Oregon State in the 1960’s who played at 189 lbs.
Decided to take a look at the rosters from an old OSU/Michigan Rose Bowl program I have from 1965.
Pretty amazing how small the big guys were back then.
Heaviest guy on either roster was OSU’s center, playing at 259lbs. But nobody else was even close to that size.
Mmost OL guys from either team were between 190 and 230lbs.
Screenshots of rosters can be found here:
https://ibb.co/F5wpdTq
https://ibb.co/PFyq60r
Not DT, he was the Center (offense) at 195. 1967.
Regardless, it’s staggering to see the difference in size between players then vs now.
Oregon has an OLineman who is more than twice his weight, playing at 6’6″ 395lbs.
https://goducks.com/sports/football/roster/faaope-laloulu/10380
Yeah. Didion also played in the NFL 69-74. He was 6’4″ and got up to 245 pounds before he retired. Hard to believe he was a consensus all-american center at 195 pounds….
beaver tales podcast…its good
https://wordenjosh.podbean.com/e/jack-riley/
I see Minnesota went for it on 4th inside Seattle’s 10 yard line. Collingsworth says it’s what the math says to do. That must be the same math book Coach Smith uses.
Such a stupid call. Zimmer knows Cousins can’t stretch the field if they don’t convert and Seattle scores. He’s not capable of moving the offense 45 yards in 30 seconds to set up a long field goal, especially in the driving rain.
In that situation (4th and 1) it was the favorable call by about 0.02% vs kicking the FG. Converting there essentially guarantees a win. If you make the FG, you still give Seattle plenty of time to go down and score plus 2 pt conversation to tie it.
Quite different than the Beavs call against WSU though. Don’t think the math was on our side in that one due to the 4th down distance and the little time that was left. It took Seattle 1:42 to go 94 yds. with 1 timeout. We had 1:14 left, probably less than 1:10 after a punt, and WSU had no timeouts left.
What the probabilities don’t account for are the conditions and the QB you are betting against. Giving Russell Wilson 2 minutes to drive 95 yards is a terrible situation to be in for the Vikings. He can easily scramble for 20 yards in the blink of an eye. Hell, if he had just 45 seconds to do it I’d bet on him.
If the book is “Math for Dummies,” then they are using the same book. Zimmer was an idiot. One time I want the Viqweens to win, so of course the do what they always do.
I think Zimmer made the right call. The logic is simple. Make one play, win the game. I honestly can’t figure out the resistance to this logic. It’s the same logic that some coaches use in deciding to go for a two point conversion in college FB overtime. Make one play, win the game.
Unfortunate outcome for the Pack, I agree. Whoever gets the single week 1 playoff bye (Seattle or GB) goes to the Super Bowl.
Because…don’t make one play, lose the game.
Different situation because kicking the field goal puts you up by 8 so the worst that could happen would be overtime. Given Wilson’s history and ability to pull rabbits out of hats, you need to kick that field goal (assuming you believe in your kicker).
IF that game goes to overtime Seattle wins. Minnesota would have nothing left by OT, especially with Cook out of the game. Zimmer made the right call; poor execution on the 4th down play.
It’s not a classic Western, but if you’re interested in documentaries and baseball, The Battered Bastards of Baseball is worth a watch. It’s about an independent team that Kurt Russell’s dad started in Portland back in the 70’s. Almost like the bad news bears of the minor leagues. Major League baseball hated them but they were really successful.
Turns out it’s by the same guys that did that Wild Wild Country doc about the Rajneesh compound in Oregon. Both were really well done.
https://youtu.be/RA76b5Hhvxg
Rueck gets another 2022 commitment, Center Raegan Beers.
https://twitter.com/Hardwood_Elite/status/1315657179114991616?s=19
ESPN ranks her as the #22 overall prospect for 2022, and the #4 center available.
http://www.espn.com/high-school/girls-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/242241/raegan-beers
hot dog!!!!
Cold Beers!
Regarding going for it on 4th. Most of these decisions are bad, but the coaches don’t have to face the music as much with fans or media because it seems macho and aggressive to try to win games. IMO these things factor into the bad decisions. A coach can just say “we want to win games so we went for it” and everyone is like “okay cool our guy is aggressive”…for Beav fans it’s even worse because we had passive Riley forever.
You could just as easily argue that they face less scrutiny by punting because they can say “well, we were just making the safest decision we could.”
Probability comparison is the closest you’ll get to a reasonable assessment of the decision.
No you can’t, and that’s missing the entire point.
Punting = conservative, weak coach.
Going for it = strong, macho, aggressive coach.
People hate weak and scrutinize it much more.
The data suggests that coaches are much too conservative with 4th down decisions. More coaches these days are choosing to go for it on 4th and 1, but coaches are still playing it safe too often according to analytics.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3114242
https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/nfl-fourth-downs-eagles-doug-pederson/
The data can’t factor in intangibles, and is therefore useless.
There’s a reason Bill Synder was the greatest coach of our generation – he had keen observation and instincts.
There’s a lot of noise in those data sets, for sure, but it doesn’t make the data useless. It just means it’s not the be all end all.
Matchups and precedent from earlier in the game matter a lot.
Maybe because this whole discussion is about stats, and the current kicker, Dan Bailey, is 100% inside 20 yds for his career.
Psychology has a lot to do with this decision making, but not the varieties you cite, Angry. It’s a coach’s “feel” for the 4th quarter trend of his team’s play and the desire to “win it now” and remove all doubt. Smith and Zimmer’s decision-making will increasingly become the norm, if it isn’t already, given the studies provided by links nearby.
It can become the norm all it wants – it will just put a premium on great decision makers.
Stats lie, and in fact they’re a cop-out for coaching. Why make tough decisions and hone instincts for the game if all you’re going to do at the end of the day is let a math equation (that has missing variables) decide your fate?
“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.” – Mark Twain
FWIW, Mad Dog Russo on Sirius today thinks Zimmer made the right call. Russo’s thinking: if you have a chance to remove Russell Wilson as a factor in a game’s outcome you have to take it.
I didnt watch the Seattle game so can’t comment on the situation, but what I’m gathering is they chose to take Wilson out of the equation by atempting a 4th down conversion rather than a chip shot field goal which would have made an 8pt margin?
So the assumption was Wilson would take his team down the field for a TD, convert a 2pt try, then go to overtime and win. Or risk giving the ball back to Wilson by failing to convert a 4th down and allow him to win on a single TD?
4th down atrempt is unsuccessful, Wilson drives field and scores a single TD and Seahawks win. No need for an extra point/2pt conversion or overtime.
Sounds like 4th down was the riskiest play(high risk/high reward) and it backfired. Similar to the Beavs, except Beavs would have had at least 50 less seconds to defend for. But I didnt watch it, so I might be missing some important details.
why does everyone assume if Minnesota had kicked the field goal it would have been good? Famously, in the playoffs just three or four years ago, Minnesota missed a gimme FG from that same spot on the field.
My assumption was a short field goal would be easier to make than a 4th down conversion, based on this being no more than an extra point type of chip shot.
From the descriptions I was under the impression this was a 4th and 6 play, rather than a 4th and 1 from the 6. Knowing it was 4th and 1 now, I can understand at least thinking your offense has a pretty good chance of picking up 1 yard, and the risk is low in that you force Seattle to start their drive from the 6 if you don’t convert.
How is this scenario anything like Smith’s WSU decision, other than it being 4th down?
Time remaining, yardage to gain, field position, score and field goal option are all totally different variables.
Interesting since this is what’s happening in the U.S., too.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/12/americanisation-english-football-project-big-picture-money-control/
Can we start a #VictorytoCorvallis campaign? I like the DT target.
Funny the Oregonian today posted an article about the Duck DTs trying to drop weight from the mid-300’s to the low 300’s to try and be more athletic and better pass rushers. I am not trying to be the classic Beaver fan that justifies striking out on a prototypical DT as saying well we want smaller athletic DTs anyway, that would be lame. But the reality is we aren’t likely to land a DT with prototypical size and athleticism so the stuff has to choose size or athleticism, so unless Smith pulls a rabbit out of his hat that is the choice we are stuck with.
But I do think we should have another tub of goo on the roster for obvious run downs. But I mean look at a guy like Vita Vea… one of the best run stuffing DTs in the game but puts up pretty mediocre numbers when looking at QB pressure and sacks. And we probably aren’t gonna find someone even of Vea’s abilities in the near term future.
The lone DL recruit is versatile at 6’2″ 255#, Omarion Fa’amoe. Watching his highlights I believe he is more likely to play the defensive tackle. Although I can see him playing both DT and DE. They usually recruit 1 DT per year as typically there is only 1 on the field at a time. They have quite a few DE on the roster, so they probably don’t need more in this small class. I would be surprised if the coaching staff is searching very hard for defensive tackles for the 2021 class.They look to have one in the class and it is extremely doubtful 1 would be found that can fill in this year.
This also depends on Whittley, he may be granted another year of eligibility depending on what happens. It is difficult to plan to fill a roster spot if it not open yet.
They just offered a dt for the 2021 class today Victory Vaka. He is currently a Texas a and m commit so I’m wondering if maybe a staff member has a connection otherwise why make the offer.
The timing of the Jaylen Martin decommitment coupled with the late offer to a Texas A&M commit does make me wonder if it maybe was a case where we cut ties with Martin in order to make room for Vaka. Not saying that’s what’s going on because I havent heard anything about either, just reading between the lines.
If we had wanted Vaka all along, we would have offered sooner, you would think. The late offer seems to indicate a potential flip, or maybe Vaka is just letting it be known he doesnt intend to stick with aTm
Also, Alexander Skelton played about as many downs at Nose Tackle as Whittley did last year.
Saw a little update on FAU today.
Willie Taggart’s team is reporting 18 athletes and 9 staff tested positive for Covid19 this week, so they’re postponing their game. Those are amazing 1 week totals
Herd immunity strategy
Pretty impressive play by Herbert for the TD.
I passed on Keenan Allen in fantasy cause I figured he’d have Tyrod Taylor throwing to him all year… smh
Said this two weeks ago, but he’s the starter moving forward.
Lynn said that going into this game.
F_nemac above posted Josh Worden’s podcast with Jack Riley. Here’s a link to Worden’s podcast page with a table of contents, if you will, of the available podcasts. Check out the Oct 10 episode about Mental Conditioning, a term which is replacing Sports Psychology.
https://wordenjosh.podbean.com/
2 deep Depth chart. Will we see colletto at the goal line??
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2020/10/oregon-state-football-taking-a-crack-at-an-early-camp-two-deep-depth-chart.html
Musgrave 2nd is a major error.
Is Sandberg really better than Shippen or Reichner?
Where’s Harrison? Not even on the 2 deep?
Lowe and Tyler can’t beat out Baylor? That’s concerning.
I personally think Sandberg was our best dline man by the end of last year. He made a lot of plays the second half of the year. Similar trajectory as Nahshon wright I feel like.
And Dunn is a solid corner. I believe he was freshman all American. Hasn’t made a lot of picks is his biggest downfall though. Seems like he has good coverage. I think the biggest concern is safety opposite of Morris. Hoping Julian goes the safety route.
I personally like the hitting dbs like afalava was, but they seem to becoming more corner like now than linebacker types.
Agree on Dunn. Should easily be one of the starters.
Regarding Sandberg, I don’t think I ever got over the bias that Incarnate Word was his only other offer. I did see him making plays, though, and thought he was better than that Incarnate Word offer sheet.
This is Nick Daschel’s guess at a 2 deep, based on nothing more than looking at the roster. I don’t think media has had access to any practices.
Oh. Good. He’s clueless like all media, every year. When will we have someone with knowledge and an eye for talent cover the team?
Hoping we’ll see Trey Lowe and Treshaun Harrison granted eligibility to start in November.
Total BS if they aren’t, I’ve seen several examples of guys moving further from home getting their sitting time waived by the NCAA this offseason, so those guys deserve similar treatment.
Also, I don’t think we brought Alton Julian in from Juco to not make the 2 deep. Gotta think he makes the list
Julian should definitely be in the mix. At worst nickle, but he should be able to push Wright.
Grant is going to be the nickel. Nashon Wright will be one starter, the other is up for grabs. Dunn has never been an impact player and the three JC guys need to push for that spot.
I can’t believe we have someone named Johnathon Riley.
It was destiny. I’m waiting for the basketball team to pick up 2021 power forward Slats Tinkle
4* PF Ralph Gill
1* SG Jimmy Payne
And 4* S Anthony Beavers Jr. is probably going to commit to USC
For those who want to learn about college football’s biggest beatdown, I highly recommend watching this 18 minute video.
https://youtu.be/doZzrsDJo-4
Haven’t viewed this yet. Coach Smith media session after practice today.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=8_1UeXxy-wQ
Jeez, the video quality looks like 1950.
It’s probably a zoom call. Have you been fortunate enough to miss out on the post Covid19 Zoom fad?
Ah gotcha.
I have used Zoom and some of their equivalents, but I don’t remember them looking this bad.
Good to hear Veikoso is practicing and looking good. One more OL body I wasn’t counting on having available. Thought he was considered class of 21. OL is sounding less and less concerning. Might take a game or 2 to gel, but I could see them being solid after that.
Depth at CB is sounding like a positive too with all the new JC guys there and the returning players.
Seems like the only position group nobody asked about is the position we’ve been most concerned with, DLine.
It’s almost like the media only wants to hear and report the good news.
I think that was Sione Lolohea on the DL that he was referring to.
Ah, that makes sense. Damn, was hoping we had another big OL body to throw out there. But good to hear positive reviews of Lolohea. He’s the 2020 recruit I’m most looking forward to seeing
New thread up with my depth chart.