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This should be fun. The +24 line is an absolute joke. If anyone can give me a good reason for that kind of optimism, I’m all ears, but in the absence of that, I’m not going to sugar coat this one…

Oregon 77, Oregon State 7

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    This will be the first CW I don’t even attempt to watch since I started watching football as a child in the 80’s.
    I mean if you have any sort of life, why would you waste a few hours watching this team?
    Morbid curiosity forced me to watch the Texas Tech game just to see how bad it could get, but now that that itch has been scratched… nope. I’ll be doing literally anything besides watching this game.

    Was all I could do to continue watching after the very first play was a false start.

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      My wife came in toward the end yesterday, looked at the score and asked, “why do you continue to subject yourself to this?” I couldn’t give her a cogent answer as she has been around this and me for nearly 40 years and has seen the bad, not so bad and the really good times with this program up to and including the thrashing of Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, which appears to be the pinnacle of Beaver football.

      I guess I’m hoping, always for a miracle, that the Beavers, no matter how far down they are, somehow get it together and come back. But ultimately, no matter what happens, the sun rises the next day. There will be a new coaching staff come next season as this one is just too dysfunctional. Will they be able to turn this ship around? I hope so.

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    This game only benefits uo. Why continue playing uo in football when it is so lopsided and uncompetitive? The Beaver fans don’t want it, the Beaver players don’t care. Oregon just wants an easy win to help pad their statistics as they aim to buy themselves a National Championship. OSU is very unwise and stupid to continue playing the Civil War in football. I won’t watch it because the Beavers will lose by at least 50 points, and I chose to do anything more productive with my time.

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      I think numbnut Barnes should take his cue from Rueck. Scott didn’t seem to give two shits that they weren’t playing the Quacks last season. Barnes seems to be the one obsessed with it, and I get the money aspects, but football can go play body bag games against other P-4 programs if it’s just about the bucks.

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    Another program that reinforces on how great coaching can turn a team around, that all of thought would be discarded from the SEC, is Vanderbilt. Yes, they have a great qb, but their schemes on both sides of the ball are excellent. If Vandy can elevate their program out of the bottom of the SEC, so can the Beavers. But it has to start with the administrations commitment and many of us don’t believe its there. If they do not have a commitment to continuously compete for conference championships, I vote to shut down most if not all of their sports programs.

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      Unfortunately, we’re comparing P-4 versus the Group of 6 now. Vanderbilt is P-4; the Beavs were left in the dust. NIL makes the elevation you’re talking about almost impossible at that level. How does one become a consistently solid Go6 program?

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        I don’t know. I don’t think programs like Vandy, Indiana and Iowa State throw big bucks around at players like the blue bloods do in their conferences. My point was that great coaching can earn a few extra wins. I look at some top FBS programs who most likely would beat our Beavers do mostly to excellent coaching and schemes.

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    How many players will play one more game, redshirt, then hit the portal? Where will Wells Jr go next year? I caution guys leaving and losing playing time but I don’t blame them for seeking/getting more money.

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    For the younger readers, imagine watching this level of incompetence for 28 straight seasons. It is why so many view Riley as a miracle worker. Fans were so beaten down, they were happy just to see a competitive team.

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    So UCLA just jetisoned Foster with 3 games in. I can’t imagine who would take over for Bray in the line of assistants if he gets the boot; they all appear inept.

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    I always chip in when Beaver fortunes hit a new low.
    I’m again willing, at age 85, to come back to Corvallis and restore Beaver football to the glory days!
    My option offense is designed to keep our losses to less than twenty four points! How cool would that be?
    I would require, however, that those new fancy assed seats be replaced by splintered wooden 6 X 8s.

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    I think I’m going to adopt Cal as my surrogate team this year. Hell, they could go undefeated missing Miami, Clemson and FSU this year.

    I don’t think Riley’s formula of developing underrecruited players would work in the NIL era. And I don’t even know if I’d want to trade places with VT or UCLA. Sure they are in “HAVES” conferences, but I doubt they’ll ever even be competitive. I’m surprised UCLA even cares enough about football to move on from Foster. I don’t know if Smith would even take the job given the lack of enthusiasm there is for the sport in Westwood.

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    Bray is an embarrassment

    Being aggro on 2 pt conversions in general this yr then not being congruent and having our QB punt on 4th and 4 down 7 as 24 pt road underdogs after the D actually gets you a stop… making the decision with the one chance we had to “stay in the game” is legit insanity ( I Know we were never winning but may as well try and play game theory optimal)

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      At the end of the first half yesterday, the offense had no concept of spiking the ball to preserve time for a long field goal or a Hail Mary. It looked like Murphy was looking at the sideline for some answer while the clock ticked down to zero. The coaching has been amateurish all season, to say the least.

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        Not to mention attempting a 47y FG down 14 LOL… obviously go for it on 4th and 8. Totally crazy.

        He thinks he’s like really sharp running that QB punt as well.. GENIUS! #not

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        • well TBF he thinks it was his way out of our snapping issues… news flash if u give them the ball there u have 0% to win. If u get a 1st down you’re still .01 to win

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    Admittedly, I didn’t watch much of the game, but from what I did see the o-line seemed to hold up decently well in pass protection against TT’s front seven. That’s about the only positive I could take away. Did anyone else feel major secondhand embarrassment every time the Beavs lined up to punt with the punter not even being 10 yards behind the snapper?

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    Maybe at the next home game, they can honor the 1996 team which was the last team to start the season 0-4 (they started 0-5 before beating Stanford), that was Pettibone’s last season.

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    I can imagine a scenario at the Corvallis airport the night of the 2023 Civil War as the Gnome and staff were boarding the plane together. All of the staff had climbed the stairs and boarded the private jet when Barnes pulled up in his 2009 Volvo with the lights flashing, Bray was the last to board because he was viewed as the youngster of the bunch. Barnes jumps out of his car and shouts at Bray to give him 5 minutes. Bray is too kind to say no and obliges.
    Barnes knows he has only one shot at this so he offers Bray a chance to 10x his salary for a 2 year run as HC, no matter how bad he does, or the staff, he gets 2 years and $5million. Bray asks “Can I just bring in all of my buddies even if they stink as coaches?”
    Barnes is over a barrel and says “Sure kid, whoever you want. We just need to field a team for 2 years to get to our next conference.”
    Bray looks in his phone contacts to make sure he knows enough guys to fill each spot and agrees.
    Barnes departs like Alexander the Great and Bray pokes his head in the plane and tells the old staff to “…enjoy East Landfill and don’t get to cold suckers!”
    That night Bray calls his Dad and tells him the news, old man Craig started laughing so hard he nearly choked because he knew Trent doesn’t need or want to be a HC but “…if the fools will pay then cash the checks.”
    Bray began like any self respecting hard worker and gave this best shot for about 5 games while the roster was still intact last year and some of the muscle memory was still there. But he has faded and so has the skill/competency/attention to detail of the staff and the roster. We are in a free fall and it won’t be slowed down this year by this staff or this roster.
    OSU football will be easily bottom half of the new iteration of PAC12 conference and I don’t think the administration has the guts/will/vision to make a good hire to get out of the situation they will find themselves in within about 3 months.
    My guess is there will be a win or 2 towards the end of the season portrayed as “something to build on for next year” but we know it will be a hollow PR attempt and completely insane to think it.
    Barnes will kick the can and leave it up to Bray to step aside. Then Barnes will promote Gundy or some nonsensical plan along those lines.

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    I love that Beaver fans are totally against the Bray hiring now and want to see him canned 3 games into the season. ( After 3 games against teams with a combined 8-1 record)
    The majority of Beaver fans were head over heels in love with the hiring. What happened to all the “Bray Area” talk?
    So now it’s all Barnes fault that our inexperienced head coach who never wanted to be a head coach is underperforming? Beaver fans gotta look in the mirror. You made it easy for Barnes to make that hire. He would have been roasted if he hadnt hired Bray.

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      Some of us were never for it and preferred Bronco Mendenhall

      But, I can say I didnt watch any of the Cal and TT games. Caught a little of the Fresno game and it was a complete dumpster fire.

      My interest in cfb is at an all time low. Its not just due to the Beavs being awful either.

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        Same, I’ve seen very little football this year. Maybe 1/4 of the Beavs game against TT and that’s it.
        And even within that 1/4 took off several plays, just like the Beavs.

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      I think Bray was a above average DC and was hopeful he would be a good HC. He hired a dismal staff as well as as made many head scratching in game decisions that I have lost all confidence in him as a HC. I would have preferred a known successful HC to hire before Bray.

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      It was all sold as a continuity move and somewhat a PR ploy to try and hold onto the fans and the players. Bray had plenty of support given his own results as DC but this wasn’t a slam dunk by any stretch. It was a hopeful exercise that of course has blown up in the face of Barnes and the proverbial Charlie Brown fans of OSU. Another dismal failure from our Administration leads to national embarrassment for the athletes again on national tv.

      I wanted to see Bray be like Whittingham, but it seems like everything OSU touches is fool’s gold and amounts to more folly and ridicule. Bray will finish out the season of course. And I suspect he just resigns rather than continue in this mess. Barnes should be preparing for the inevitable one way or the other. I don’t think Barnes will want to fire Bray because it would be a bad look for Barnes. He will stay the course as long as Bray wants to coach. Barnes will make the argument that he has little alternative and has other things to focus on right now. And the certainty will be Mike Riley appearing around VFC after the Houston game for the back half of the season to “assist” Bray, coinciding with the easier portion of the schedule. Any success we see after Houston will be attributed to the steadying influence of good old Mike Riley, all setting up Riley 3.0 for the good of the program…and the end of my Beaver days I guess.

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    I was all in the Bray hire. Pumped when Barnes made the fire. I can admit when I’m wrong though.

    He shouldn’t be fired in season. Nobody better to replace him. If things don’t get better by end of season. Sure let him go.

    I will say that OSU should have backed up the brinks truck to pay for a couple top notch coordinators given Brays youth / experience. They offered Smith $6M+ to stay and then signed Bray for $2M. They could have found the money. Instead we got Gundy and Hayward….

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    UCLA is reportedly targeting Oregon Defensive Coordinator as their next HC and he is an excellent recruiter too. I doubt it happens but I hope it does.

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    Look, not saying I expect it happen, but frankly, our schedule was pretty front loaded this year. With Wazzu getting destroyed by North Texas, I’ve gotten a bit more hope.

    There is a not insignificant chance that we could start the season 0-4 or 0-5 and then finish the season 6-6 or 7-5. Again not saying I expect it to happen, but there are definitely some winnable games left on the schedule after Houston

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    Beavs get a 4 star safety from Florida State. Apparently he was dismissed from the team for an altercation with a coach. I like it. Maybe we can get talent that is troubled and become an angry team of talented bad boys that make us wonder if they are going to make it to the season or end up in jail.

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    Apparently the Civil War is such an important rivalry game to keep scheduled, it got slotted on the Big10 network this week. The good news? Even if you tried to watch it, you won’t be able to find it.

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    I think we should go after more players with checkered histories. Because winning is more important than upholding the integrity of the program. Let’s get guys accused of assault in clubs. Guys getting pulled over and having guns and drugs in their car. 5 stars and back from behind bars!

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    Bray has to go. He’s been recruiting Bobby butt crack instead of real 4* + serious football players. First time in a long time I would say the beavs have no chance in a civil war. I am so embarrassed to go to work everyday with mostly dick fans!!! We need to get back to our roots, we need another Erickson to convince high talent/high risk players to buy in and love living in our sheep pasture in Corvallis. I hate the ducks, if they win I will eat a real beaver. Have two of them on my property even the USDA beaver czar couldn’t keep them out of my yard. I have several long guns and can get them from the porch! If anyone is in the market for a pelt lmk

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    Rueck gets commitment from Washington #4 player in the state, 5’9″ Ashley Uusitalo, in the class of 2026. She sounds like a solid 3 point shooter and averaged 17+ ppg, 5 rebounds, 4:<assists and 2 steals ppg fome Lakeshore HS, King Co 4A MVP and 4A all state 1st team. She sounds like quite a player and the Seattle area is a huge area for talent.

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    • Did anybody notice the suggested related articles at the bottom of this story: “Oregon State’s demise is all the proof we need that Jonathon Smith is a good coach.” Brutal.

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        Totally inaccurate conclusion as we know the NIL, realignment and the portal killed OSU, WSU and other small market programs. In other words, traitor Smith would have stayed longer if not for realignment so really realignment was the driving force IMO.

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          Disagree with your premise: Smith was gonna leave sooner rather than later either way.

          It might have been sped up by realignment but it’d obvious he always saw Corvallis as a stepping stone.

          It was shortsighted, I bet if he’d stayed OSU could have thrived and that commercial they play during games would ring true but we will never know.

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          • Like I said, he would have stayed longer had it not been realignment, NIL and the portal. I didn’t say how much longer bc not many coaches stay forever especially these days. .He was offered a decent raise to stay and the money was pretty darned good but he chose to leave bc of those three factors and realignment that resulted in losing the PAC’s P5 status was the driving force IMO. Minus those three factors, he doesn’t bolt bc there’.was no reason to.

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            He chose to leave because he got an offer. It is pure speculation to claim he’d have staying if not for realignment.

            Speculation that doesn’t seem to match up with what we’ve learned about Smith.

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    Football, Murthey,and Barnes have left the building. I checked into the pu joe beaver show for 10 minutes – MP & JW – poor souls. I’ve never understood who is paying them for OSU coverage but the contract doesn’t seem to allow for negatives. They seem bewildered by IT and the network doesn’t seem to be paying attention. TJ left w no replacement. No money? In short, altho this rant isn’t short, we have sphinxes in authority and weak, outdated media representation.

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    Barnes just announced the civil war series will start up again in 2027. Glutton for punishment. If we need to play a money game can’t we find someone else to kick our ass

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      At this point I just assume that OSU athletics will always trip over itself. It makes it easier.

      Wonder what Bowl 6-6 Pac-9 schools will get? Seems to be the goal. Big money.

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      Seems like Barnes is in denial about the status of Beav football. Hint: it’s not Power 4 any longer (it’s not even good Go6 currently). It’s not like Ohio St and Ohio University play every year, just once in a great while, like this season.

      It’s quickly become the same thing in my estimation. Why give the Quacks the satisfaction? Piss them off and go play some other big Power 4 program for the paycheck.

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        Ohio St vs Ohio
        Missouri vs Missouri St
        Alabama vs Alabama St
        Illinois vs Illinois St
        Tennessee vs Tennessee St
        Arkansas vs Arkansas St
        Georgia vs Georgia St

        Oregon vs Oregon St is about the same as these match-ups now and likely into the future. Barnes is a short-sighted administrator and this is the second mistake this month for money. He has already forfeited a home game for $3 mil to play BYU at a neutral sight with no return trip. He has been set-up by Oregon to lose another home game with them as well by skipping a year, but agreeing to resume with another game at Autzen.
        So in 2027 we will begin with a neutral site against BYU along with a road game at Autzen. Barnes is either a fool or he knows how bad the media deal is and is searching for revenue through as many payday/bodybag type games as he can schedule. It won’t work but he isn’t bright enough to accept the situation. Beavs will be severely outclassed in both games, and the season will be lost by game 3 again. Fans will disappear and the stadium will be an even worse look once it only has about 10k fans in the lower bowl.

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        • Sorry but the BYU game isn’t a mistake. That is a smart move for any program in OSU’s position and will not impact their ability to have 6 home games.

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    When does Trent Bray get fired? After going 0-4 and losing by 60+ in the most embarrassing loss ever to oregon? After going 0-5 losing to Houston at home with less than 10,000 fans in the stadium? After going 0-6 losing to Appalachian State on the road? Or after going 0-7 losing to Wake Forest at home with 5,000 fans in the stadium? Thoughts?

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      I’d say Barnes won’t fire him. Barnes will let the football program become a dumpster fire all over again. We don’t have much say in it. The pattern is long established and we shouldn’t be surprised. If it was never a priority when we were actually part of a P5 conference, why should anyone think it will now be a priority in the current unstable world of college athletics. I’m sure there are a lot of faculty and old timer alums who are counseling to just move on from sports and return to research and academics as the sole focus for good old OSU.

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    • I don’t know who they would get in the interim. Please – no Mike Riley. If they want to salvage the football program they need to hire a big name coach who has had success and will help with recruiting and bringing in a staff and schemes that will work.

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    0regon will be wearing a uniform solely designed to honor its corporate owner, Uncle Phil. Surprised they didn’t just put a giant swoosh on the side of the helmet. A groundbreaking gesture that goes far beyond their typical bad taste in uniforms.
    That being said, for a couple billion dollars, I’d be down with a lime green and black nVidia kit.

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      “the shoe duck” uniform….gross. Shameless.

      Hearing Duck fans talk it up today, never acknowledging the $$$ side of the program…one said all the Duck games are boring because they’re so good they blow everyone out by halftime….and you don’t see the problem in that?!?

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        Wait until TV viewer ship #s drop and companies stop paying millions of $$$ for advertising spots and the whole money making scheme implodes on itself. It might not happen soon but sooner or later it will.

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          As long as Phil Knight lives, 0regon gets a bottomless bucket. After his time, will Nike as a profit seeking corporation see the point in owning a college athletic department, at a significant loss each year.

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    About 42 hours (?) until kick off, and a 115 comments on the best Beaver sports site….hmmm…..apparently playing the “Civil War” in September against a team with $20M+ football roster salary isn’t so interesting…

    Didn’t Anderson and Hass play pitch and catch in 56-20-something blowout once upon a time? But for a few slightly high throws, could have exceeded 60….days long gone..

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      DOES anyone give a shit about this game? I’ve seen some social media from players trying to say they’re excited about the rivalry, bullshit. No one cares about this game anymore. yuck fans will gloat and try to talk shit but honestly I could give two shits. They are just another semi pro team at this point if they don’t win by 40 they should be embarrassed.

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        I will never attend or watch this game on TV, never. As far as I am concerned this is a bye week for OSU. This game doesn’t even exist in my world.

        Meanwhile we have Wilner explaining why OSU “must play” this game behind a paywall today, anyone read his reasoning?

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      • Pretty much a morbid curiosity to see how badly the beat down will be and if Lanning shows any mercy at all.
        I don’t actually mind Lanning too much and I wouldn’t be upset if they tried to score 100 on the Beavs just as a way to completely startle Barnes into reality of the situation. The Ducks will have multiple long TD runs since no one in front of our safeties can make a tackle. Since our special teams are so horrific, they will have either short fields or blocked punts/punt returns for a TD at least once. Our Qb throws interceptions like parade candy so it is likely we see at least one pick6 as well. I’d spot the ducks at least 49 points just based on those factors before they even try to play defense against our offense. We know the
        Beavs defense won’t slow them down.
        Unfortunately:
        Nike 84
        Beavs 6
        All time best down and Beavernation won’t even care.

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    I’m just spit-balling a bit here and taking about 2 wasted hours to do some simple research for us all. Now we can be prepared for Barnes to screw it all up again in a few months. He will spend a foolish amount of money when he doesn’t have to for a search committee to find a poor choice eventually. But I have my own ideas of what might be possible, and I’ll post this for future reference.
    Here is the list of retreads I expect to hear floated once Bray resigns in December after a 2-10 disaster:
    Mike Riley
    Mark Banker
    Brady Hoke
    Jeff Tedford
    Mack Brown
    (All disastrous choices by the way)

    Angry called for an outside the box hire years ago, along the lines of a D3 coach who was relatively unknown, but very successful. That guy was Lance Leipold, now the head coach at Kansas. I think the program builder or proven winner has to be the direction and it must come from somewhere beyond OSU’s historical coaches tree. You have long established football powerhouses in lower divisions that consistently produce winning teams and coaches who move on to bigger opportunities. You look either in the midwest (Mount Union/D3) or upper plains (NDSU/SDSU) for those coaching types who are hard nosed and scheme sound because they have to be. Another option is to try to go into the Texas/south and find a hotshot (Spavital etc) who has connections and knows offense similar to Leach. Find that guy and get him early in his career, or give the established guy (Holgorson etc) who knows all of those schools and has innumerable connections to Texas high school football. In a similar vein, here is a list of coaches who have recently brought entire staffs into power conference schools and are having success:
    NDSU-Matt Entz to Fresno St
    James Madison- Curt Cignetti to Indiana
    NDSU- Chris Kileman to Kansas St
    SDSU- Jimmy Rogers to Washington St

    Names i would rather hope to hear if Barnes has any sense. Some proven winners, some needing another chance, some up and coming, but most importantly all out of different coaching trees than the standard OSU family:
    Bryan Harsin, OC at Cal currently
    Brett Vigen, HC at Montana St currently
    Geoff Dart- current HC at Mount Union, Ohio
    Brad Spencer- current HC at North Central College
    Tom Herman- currently unemployed/fired from Florida Atlantic last year
    Mike Houston-formerly James Madison national champ, fired from East Carolina last year, currently a volunteer on staff at Clemson
    Brian Bohannon- former Kennesaw St coach, now an on Ga Tech staff as offensive assistant- (He built a successful program from scratch)
    Neal Brown- formerly West Virginia HC
    Dana Holgorsen- currently OC at Nebraska, formerly HC at West VIrginia and Houston
    Jimbo Fisher- currently unemployed
    Jake Spavital- current OC at Baylor, previously at Cal

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      • Sure but we need to accept the fact that OSU will now be a career stepping stone or a career redemption path for anyone coming to Corvallis. Be willing to pitch it that way and take a shot at any of these guys. They all have experience as head coaches or high level assistants. I will state from personal experience that Willamette Valley has a strong resemblance to any Ohio town and those guys from the Midwest would not be opposed to giving it a shot if the administration could at least present a competent approach towards wanting to win.
        I bet Tom Herman would take a chance if only to have another shot as a head coach out of the spotlight for a few seasons.
        It doesn’t really matter though because Barnes will mess it up and go the safest route possible and only compound the problems.

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      I would add Bob Stitt from Colorado school of the mines. An offensive guru in the Chip Kelly and Mike Leach mold. His version of the air raid/west coast offense scores 70 points a game and averages 500 yards of total offense. I has always thought we need to beat more talented teams with scheme like Leach used to do to us. Might as well roll the dice

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      I will not stand for this slander and move on mentality from one of the greatest players and humans in Beaver history! Bray is my guy, Bray is your guy. He perfectly captures what it means to be in the Oregon State close family. He just needs some time and stability and get his guys in there. He recruited one of the best quarterbacks in the country from Duke. Give him time he will be Lamar Jackson 2.0 under Bray’s expert guidance. When they shock the world on Saturday I will have my wife make humble pies for all you doubters!

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        Haha, very nicely done. You forgot to include how great
        Mike Riley’s role in Brays life has been. No need to go looking elsewhere, be careful what
        You wish for, no one knows Corvallis like…, tough place to recruit to, family program blah blah blah.

        In reality none of these comments will matter because the certainty is that Barnes and the admin will never consider anything innovative or risky. Always safety in the MR comfort zone of the past.
        Even when there is literally nothing to lose to take a huge risk and swing for the fence with a new hire, they won’t do it. So I make my observations, post another comment and realize I’m little more than Don Quixote charging windmills… the life of a Beaver fan.

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    Not sure if anybody here listens to the Beligerant Beavs podcast. Today’s episod has alot of speculation around the athletic department’s recent decision to allow an outside entity run our NIL fund at OSU and connects some of the dots behind who was hired and the nepotism that appears to be going on behind the scenes, plus the general idea that our NIL money is handled by some outside entity with conflicted interests since they also run some 20 other schools funds as well.

    https://x.com/BelligeBeavs/status/1968727889882308874?t=tR2ng10swlHeBI3BPyYrlQ&s=19

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    Over at OregonLive, they’re doing the Beavers All “Quarter Century” Teams…the best of 2000-2025 by reader votes…Jonathan Smith, who took the Beavers as high as #17 (AP) at the end of the 2022 season, and as high as #11 before losing 22-20 to UW, is third team head coach with about 7% of votes, Dennis Erickson, who finished as high as #4 is the Second Team Head Coach with about 40% of votes…

    James Newson was 2nd Team, receiving less than 2% of the votes, so that says something about participation….

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  41. NVIDIA puts $5B (B!) into Intel:

    “Money is helpful, and having Jensen’s blessing is priceless,” Bernstein Research analyst Stacy Rasgon wrote in a note to clients. Huang grew up in Aloha and graduated from Oregon State University, though he now lives near Nvidia’s headquarters in Silicon Valley.”

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    What are the odds that OSU has a false start, fumble/bad snap or delay of game on the first play from scrimmage? It has happened in all 3 games so far right?

    How many punts get blocked? maybe 2
    How many pick 6’s? at least 1
    How many 50+ TD runs by the ducks? probably 4
    How many horrible plays will happen on special teams this week? at least 5

    I’m interested in how badly the Beavs look because they certainly aren’t improving week to week. The spiral is in full effect and I wonder how much worse it can get. This weekend will be a debacle and Barnes should be on the hook for going along with it. Is it worth it for $2mil or whatever the payout is? I don’t think it will ever be worth it when it is so unbalanced and we knew it would be.

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    • What is the over/under on false starts?

      Players saying they can do it in practice, and maybe just get nervous in games…really, peeing down your own leg because there’s an actual opponent across the line? WTF. How does one reconcile this with Bray’s emphasis on aggressiveness and “everything with violence!”

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    I think any talk of firing Bray at this point is ridiculous given the situation he started with. I think you have to give him until the end of the first month of next season at minimum. Special team is really the big killer here. These are easier things to remedy. Not to mention, there’s zero quality replacement options for Bray. Our schedule is quite front loaded this year. Cal is looking like they might make a run to the ACC title game, Oregon is Oregon, Texas Tech has one of the most expensive NIL rosters in the country. I’ll admit, the Fresno State loss was bad, but looking at the teams left, it wouldn’t be crazy for this team to finish 6-6 or 7-5. If we end up losing to teams like Sam Houston, App State, etc, then we can give Bray a very hot seat, but I still see wins on the schedule.

    Am I crazy?

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      He should have never been hired in the first place; when we needed someone with coaching experience, someone who had actually been a coach, the administration/search committee went with the quickest, most expedient hire they could make. I like Bray and loved him as a player, but at this point in his career, he shouldn’t be the head coach of a D1 program, sideline demeanor notwithstanding. He needs some time to work his way up through the coaching ranks. This position really shouldn’t be learned OTJ.

      2-10 looks extremely real this year, maybe even worse. There has been no improvement from game 1 to game 2 or from game 2 to 3. I’m still debating about even going anywhere near the TV at noon tomorrow, but most likely will, much like being drawn to a traffic accident.

      This administration needs to nut-up and make a decent hire if they ever want that Reser stadium to be used for something other than a weekly Benton County swap meet, I don’t want them to extend his contract at the end of the year. This experiment should be over.

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      Yes. We don’t have luxury of waiting that long. If Bray wins the last 5 or 6 games to end the season and the showing significant improvement, he has earned the opportunity to stay on, but will need to make some staff changes.

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    Wilner argues OSU has no choice but to continue to play UO:

    “…ending the rivalry would be pretty close to the worst move Oregon State could make during this tumultuous stretch.

    The shifting landscape of college sports could very well leave the Beavers without the option to lure teams from the power conferences to Corvallis. It’s not Oregon-or-bust quite yet, but that point is fast approaching.

    The SEC recently agreed to add a ninth conference game but kept in place the requirement to play a total of 10 games against Power Four schools, meaning each team has only two spots available for non-conference opponents outside the ACC, Big 12 and Big Ten.

    The likelihood any SEC team would be willing to travel to Corvallis? Close to zero. Don’t be surprised if Mississippi cancels its series with the Beavers (in 2027 and 2030), just as Florida reportedly has canceled its series with Arizona State and Alabama reached a mutual agreement with West Virginia to cancel their two-game tango.

    Would Big Ten teams not named Oregon venture to Corvallis? Unlikely. They don’t want to risk the loss or deal with the travel, and many lack openings on the schedule.”

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      I’d rather never have a P4 opponent come to Corvallis than continue to play Oregon. But I also don’t believe he is correct here anyway.

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      My question is, can college programs hold on simply by taking money in to get pummeled by teams with large NILs? Sure, it sounds good to take a good payday and possibly upset a team, but is that a sustainable model to keep a football program around? Maybe teams like the Beavs have plenty of money to fund football programs but I only see attendance declining and therefore sponsorship, game day sales, merchandise, tailgating spots, etc declining as well and then there’s the whole idea of having to pay off the new part of the stadium. So yeah, I guess at this point you say yes to being the whipping boy but I won’t be watching it.

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        See, I think OSU is missing a golden opportunity to fill Reser and become more relevant nationally than they’ve ever been. If they consistently win 10+ games and win PAC titles the stadium will be full no matter who they play. And they will make the CFP on a semi-regular basis.

        This should be seen as an opportunity but they instead seem to have already decided the program is dead. Which is frustrating.

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      Who cares what Wilner says. I’ve never thought much about his opinions which I have mostly disagreed with. Here’s another one. If you build a winning program they will come. Why get killed by Oregon and other P4 teams at this particular time. It certainly doesn’t benefit the Beavers. We need a proven winner coach, preferably big name, to build the program back up and consistently win and challenge for conference championships, which amazingly will attract fans, the media and eventually P4 teams.

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        Yeah, I don’t get Wilner’s argument that having a P-4 team come to Corvallis is so important. That ship sailed away quickly. Is Reser going to be packed with Beav fans when the Quacks pound them ad nauseam through the upcoming years? I’m not opposed to OSU going to Eugene every five or six years to get a bag, but otherwise, I don’t see it. Utah/Utah St is another example. They used to play almost every year, but now just once in a while. It’s just the new reality. Seems like the sportswriters of all people don’t want to accept it.

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          It’s just a bad argument. I really don’t get how so many people can make it so complicated.

          Winning will fill Reser
          Winning will make them nationally relevant

          Dennis Erickson understood this.

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            Another example is Colorado/Colorado State. They don’t play every year either. My paranoid self is starting to think Disney is paying off the West Coast media to push for the continuation of the Civil War so the Quacks have an easy W every year! I don’t get the hand-wringing.

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      I read the article too and thought that, like other writers, Eggers ignores that this trend started last season. I don’t care whether Bray is fired now or at the end of the season, but the signs that he was in over his head started much earlier than these first three games.

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    An objective analysis of the Beavs situation. When money becomes an issue, it quickly becomes the only issue. I don’t care if you keep or replace Bray and Barnes. Absent somehow greatly increasing OSU’s NIL money, the dye is cast. I see no chance of greatly increasing the NIL money. So this year will end as a complete disaster, and so will all future years without a serious OSU reality check. The only hope to have a “respectable” season (i.e. 6-6, 7-5, 8-4) will be to schedule FCS teams in a similar financial position or FBS teams. Schedule down to the level of competition OSU actually has a chance to compete with. No more P-4 teams period, and that includes cancelling all future games with the quackers.
    I won’t be watching Saturday’s game, and quite possibly any more this season, either in person or on TV. Pretty soon, they won’t be able to give away tickets to Reser. I concur. U of money 77, OSU 7

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      It is surprising to me that OSU can’t Huang and Chang won’t contribute along with Reser family, but they are sharp business people (Chang uses analytics!) and know ncaa football is not an investment. Knight is so desperate for a national championship he doesn’t care about pissing the money away…someday he’ll stand in a crowded locker room with Lanning and a bunch of free agents and celebrate being a winner.

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    Wilmer and Barnes are both fools for insisting on the Civil War.
    It is obvious that the decks are going to be cleared by 2032 realignment and Big10/SEC inter conference schedules will be their way of cutting out the rest.
    If Oregon makes the cut and stays in the chosen schools in the big brand league, they won’t be allowed to schedule with OSU anyway. This 5 or so years is going to set up their 32 team super league. All non performing schools will be jettisoned from each league and those that remain will play within the brands in a pseudo-NFL structure.

    None of it matters anymore. It was fun and frustrating while it lasted. OSU needs to recalibrate towards breaking from the passive 70 years of mediocre and actually try to set up a winning program leading into the next iteration. But we know they will only be reactive and bad at that as well.

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      Yep, I’ve saying the same thing about a “super league” that will be similar to a mini NFL that will consist of the blue bloods. Follow the money. Will pretty end college football that we grew up with.

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      Yeah, at home with chants of “Fire Gundy!” Their first loss to Tulsa since 1951.

      I wonder if WSU (2-1) will at least compete with UW while OSU gets blown out by Oregon…WSU is 20.5 underdogs, and have the Fuskies in Pullman for the first time in three years. Cougs won last year at UW with Mateer et al.

      UW probably just hast too much offense. This will be the first time beer and wine will be sold at WSU’s stadium, so the crowd should be extra energized….

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      The effects of losing your financial backer.
      T Boone pickens passed a few years ago amd OKState is already in a similar spot as OSU, even with larger media deal.
      Programs without that endless stream of income are going to fail. It’s a broken system.

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    Watching Texas Tech vs. Utah and it is sickening how the announcers openly talk about TT getting a bag of money and buying players like it is a great thing. I have always loved college football because of the fans being so into their school and the tradition but it just is sickening now that it has nothing to do with anything but money now.

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      You got that right, Bill. Additionally, for me, it has always been fun to watch the development of players over 3-4 years, money has pretty much ruined that aspect as well.

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  54. According to the Beavers X page, the Beavers are “locked in.”

    However, they didn’t show the team’s vocal response when some assistant coach “pumping them up” said “Beavs on 3!”

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    Gundy knows Moore from UCLA, Cavanaugh knows the UO playbook…you think at least schematically OSU could put up a proper D game plan, even if they lack the talent?

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    I thought when Wells fell on his butt at the one yard line, it was going to be a sure “luck o’ the Beavs” moment. Nice that they proved me wrong!

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    What little I’ve of their QB Murphy, I’m not impressed. Granted the O line is not the best but not very accurate and thought he’d run more. I say put in Johnson. Give him some reps and see what he’s got.

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      I’m kind of ready for the Guthridge era to begin honestly. MM is an int machine, no thanks I’ve seen enough of him. Johnson is too one dimensional and more like a shooting point guard who calls his own name too much.
      I think Guthridge is worth trying after this game…

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    Terrible decision by Murphy. Walker was wide open for the first down. The replay showed Walker throwing up his arms like WTF. Now the Quacks are going to go into hyperdrive and score before half. Remember, last year was still a one-score game at halftime, also.

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      A couple of holes here and there for the RBs. No contributions from the TEs, unless you count a false start by Caulfield. Murphy’s been up and down. Moore is picking the secondary apart.

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    Now we begin the narrative of moral victories and attempting to revive the hopes of Beaver fans. Reboot MR 2.0 propaganda machine: “Gosh I really like how we are competing…” while down 21-7

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    • To be fair, who’d a thought that if you left a huge gap in the side of the field which the rugby style punter slants to, he’d run through for 21 yards?

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    Well, it was surprisingly watchable for almost a half. Murphy has definitely not risen to the challenge. Looked like Hankerson gave him a WFT look on that shitty screen pass that would have popped if it hadn’t been thrown to his shoe tops.

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      just kinda funny how blow outs happen.. miraculously only down 21-7 start of 3Q and Murphy coulda ran on 3rd and 4 and didnt and incomplete… then Bray punts???????? LOL funny jokes

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  88. Waiting to watch my Mizzou Tigers play S Carolina. Very good offense and a good defense. Should be fun! At dump called Columbia MO.!!!

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    Beavers got a sack! Whoooo! Second of the season?

    Betting line crazy accurate…

    Well, if Murphy declares RS and hits portal, maybe give Gutteridge a shot with the remaining 8 games, GJ for special packages?

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    Penalties today: Beavs 2/10, nike 5/40
    Sacks allowed: Beavs ZERO, nike one
    Beavs allowed Moore to rush for 53yds (avg 7.6), an area that will be tested next Friday.
    Not expecting eight W’s to come, but we are seeing less “shoot yourself in the foot” stuff as time goes.

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    • So was the offense not making plays when they had a chance? Sounds like Murphy was inaccurate, immobile…

      Or was the defense taking things away?

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      • MM was the big factor; hesitant to run and inaccurate when passing.
        SpTm fail giving up 21 on nike fake punt was the single biggest avoidable mistake.

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      The game was a beat down. Score could have been worse and surprised it wasn’t. Ducks had 305 passing and 280 rushing. Beavs had a total of 147. Like a cat playing with a mouse!

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        When did Lanning pull his #1’s? Seems like it was late in the 4th; I’m not so sure it really could have been very much worse. It’s not as if Dante Moore was pulled to give the backup experience, same goes for defensive heavyweights. Pretty sure the ucks image was hurt by their game last week with Northwestern; good reason for them to pour it on today.

        As noted by another commenter below, ucks aren’t as good as we thought. They didn’t look like #6 to me.

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    I am looking at this team. Our offensive line is not great. We have a super athletic QB and good RBs. I don’t see any reason not to go to a read option offense w/ RPOs mixed in and Gabarri at the helm. Murphy is clearly not the guy. I don’t know what it is. He has looked quite good at times and quite awful at others. I mean we are 0-4 but our toughest games are behind us. And the back half of our schedule is kind of a joke. I know it looks awful right now. But I think we could win the last 8 games if we continue to sew things up.

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      I mean looking back. Cal is 3-0 (very likely to be 4-0 at SDSU), Fresno State is 3-1, Texas Tech just stomped Utah at Utah to go 4-0. And Oregon is 4-0. We have had a tough schedule to start.

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        I’m with you. Cal will be a top 25 team finishing the year and TT is top ten or possibly top 5. Dooks are a deuce trying to appropriate other teams colors. Fresno st is a winnable game if special teams does its job. Same with the others besides UH. But others are right about billionaire-backed teams running away from the rest.

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        You don’t think that’s reasonable? Fresno State is probably the most comparable to the best teams remaining and we really should have won that game. We play Sam Houston State for goodness sake. And Washington State looks worse than us.

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          I think it would be reasonable if they hadn’t looked like keystone cops for most of the first 3 games and totally unprepared to compete. I’ll also say that Lanning wasn’t ever really in doubt about whether the ducks would/could win that game. He had no need to open the playbook beyond back shoulder throws and off tackle running. It was still a 30 pt beat-down which in any other year is not ok. But given how bad OSU has looked and how good Nike has looked, we somehow rationalize that the Beavs are improving and the ducks aren’t as good as we fear.
          This was Dante Moore’s 9th career start and he looked liek a seasoned vet, meanwhile MM has 2 times as many starts and looked like hot garbage.
          Beavs will be lucky to rally and win 4 out of the next 8. I don’t think it is possible honestly, and I was pretty optimistic going into the season. But I’m cured of the optimism. Bray is struggling to lead, Murphy is another big money NIL miss and the Beavs need to find a lot of answers in a short amount of time. The running game is bad, no passing at all with Murphy, horrible special teams, bad against the run, undersized/inexperienced corners getting torched every game, linebackers are invisible.

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            Usually agree with you 100%, but a couple responses for your consideration:
            -it’s key that the keystone cops episodes didn’t reappear today (maybe Cavanaugh is getting through to his group).
            -Lanning didn’t need to open the playbook, very true but I note his guys were penalized 5 times today after only 9 times in the previous 3 games. That’s not what I’d expect from a #6 team at home and running vanilla offense.
            -Can’t disagree with your comparison of the QB’s
            -You say “lucky to win 4” and flop says, “could win the last 8 games if we continue to sew things up.” I’m in between.

            And, surprise, I didn’t get the sense that Bray has lost the locker room.

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    “Punter AJ Winsor — finally able to get some kicks off with OSU’s long snapping issue mitigated — set a school record for punting yards with 427. So, there’s that.”

    Sonuvabitch! Impressive! Over 53 yards per punt!

    Will he get poached in off season?

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    Lanning after Kirk’s death….world could learn from their locker room:

    “”Life matters. I think we’ve lost sight of that, but I wish the world could learn a little bit of something from our locker room because we’ve got a bunch of people with differences and what you’ve got is a bunch of people with love there.”

    A 30-something coach making $9M(?) per year with a locker room of one of the highest paid rosters in the country says the world could learn from them…sound kinda pretentious and shallow.

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      Lanning has become a blowhard. I thought it was a stretch when he went after Gundy for the money comment, too. Probably looking for ways to keep the team motivated while he tries to win that elusive national title for Knight.

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  100. I’ve been watching Wazzu-UW off and on and seeing Noga made me think of his high school teammate, Sam Vidlak. I looked into his whereabouts and it turns out he’s the starting QB for Stephen F. Austin going back to last season. One of his backups (JT Kitna) is also Jon Kitna’s son.

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    I think there’s some mental health issues going on with some of Beaver Nation. We got creamed today. 147 yds vs nearly 600. With how the ducks offense played, they should’ve beaten us by more than 34. I mean, 34 is an ass kicking and yet I see people celebrating this as a win. Lol. Others are now saying we would smash Houston if we played like this next week. Reality is, this is not a good football team. It’s not even a decent team. We’ve been outscored by over 100pts these 4 games. Sure, we’ve had some tough teams to play, but we’ve looked really bad in all of them. Houston is a P4 team and will once again have the edge in the trenches and I dont see us being able to effectively run the ball. I dont know what to make of Murphy. He seems like DJU. Has a cannon of an arm and can make some great throws, but has the accuracy of Wildthing without his glasses.

    On the positive side, we actually executed some punts today. Special Teams is still not a good unit, but I guess it’s just marginally bad now vs the laughing stock it was a few weeks ago. It was encouraging to see that the team hasnt quite given up yet. Will be interesting to see what its like after Houston. I’m chalking that up as a loss. I don’t think it’ll be a blow out, but I could see it being like Cal where we lose respectfully but are never actually anywhere in the game. I think the gap is too high for our OL/DL to be effective vs even lower tier P4 trench guys. I believe to win vs most everyone left in the remaining 8 games it will take mistake free football and we haven’t done that yet. Lafayette and Sam Houston should be wins. I could see us going 1-1 with the Cougs. I do think they’re better coached than we are, but we should have a slight talent advantage over them.

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      I don’t disagree with you. I will say though the teams the Beavs have lost to have pretty good records so far. We are still figuring out if any losses so far are bad losses. With that being said, the miscues in the losses don’t make me think this is a good team losing to better teams.

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    More bad Beaver news…
    Oregon State, Minot St and Bemidji St are now a combined 0-12 on the season. Beavers everywhere are really getting pounded this fall.

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    Watching MSU vs USC. So glad Lindgren and JS are gone. They had a nice drive inside the 30, then tried to get cute, killed their own momentum and ended up kicking a fg inside the red zone. Enjoy that nonsense Sparty.

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    Didn’t watch one iota today. Saw the final score and was shocked it wasn’t worse.

    Cal getting boat raced by SDSU. Anyone that thinks this dumpster fire has 2 wins in them is delusional as fuck.

    College football is dead to me.

    Enjoy your fall Saturdays doing other things like ive been doing.

    Unless its beaver baseball? I no longer give a fuck.

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    That SDSU win over Cal should be concerning on multiple levels. Cal clearly not as good as they appeared early on so that loss could end up being one that maybe should’ve been a win with a remotely competent team. Secondly, we are so far behind many of the P12 schools in football it’s not even funny. BSU, Fresno state, SDSU, USU and Texas State all appear to be ahead of the beavs with less resources. I haven’t watched Col State so can’t comment on them. It really demonstrates how bad our coaching is for is to have more resources, “more talented” rosters but yet be so far behind the curve.

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