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Oregon State @ Oregon (Baseball Civil War)

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Let the mayhem begin. Saturday and Sunday will be broadcast on TV. I have a crappy feeling the Ducks take 2 of 3 as I don't see the Beavs scoring many runs versus them…it will come down to OSU pitching outdueling those guys.

05/17/13 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. 6:00 p.m. PT
05/18/13 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. 2:00 p.m. PT
05/19/13 at Oregon * Eugene, Ore. 12:00 p.m. PT

286 COMMENTS

  1. I don't think there's a player I dislike more in college baseball right now than Jimmy Sherfy.  I hope they make that little bitch cry.

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    • I wouldn't mind seeing a stray slider hit him in the kneecap producing no long term damage, but immediate pain.  I hate the Ducks with every fiber of my being.  If the Ducks had a chess team, I would hate them just because it feels right.

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    • I'm always down to hate a Duck. Any reason in particular for this guy though? I don't follow the Ducks personnel very much.

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  3. Anybody have a guess of our chances of hosting a super regional?

    REALLY wanting a sweep this weekend. Just drive through patchouli-ville on my way to Florence and I’ve already had enough of duck fan.

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  17. JRod cuts down the runner at second, we're likely to see that a few more times in this series!  Boyd gets a K to end the 2nd with the ucks up 3-0.

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  26. I genuinely feel the Ducks are the better team. I know the stats and rankings don't bear it out, but they're more mentally tough, fiesty, and clutch. Those things don't show up in stats.

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    • I haven't followed them that closely other than reading stories in the paper, but they seem to win a lot of close games and more times than not come up with a game changing or deciding play.

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      • more times than not come up with a game changing or deciding play.

        That sums it up well.

        Even tonight, getting an early run and setting the tone for the series was key, and they did that.

        I am writing like the game is over…it's not, but Duck's have a pretty good staff I don't see the Beavs scoring much at all this series since their offense is station-to-station and small ball. I think power offense would do better vs the ducks.

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        • I'm not sure that I disagree with you but it is a little early to make a statement that the Ducks are better.  Let's see how the series plays out first.

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    • That maybe very true, and it may not be their night tonight, but the Beavs will keep fighting.  I would be very surprised to see them give up.

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  30. Had my first cocktail in months, sorry GoBeavs not sure I mean to pick on you, though I'd probably do it sober, too.

    Hopefull–I know some people appreciate the updates, which is why I added disclaimer.

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    • I think it's accurate. Isn't that the little brother syndrome?

      It has something to do with wealth, too…rich guy vs guy from the other side of the tracks. Beavs have inferiority complex.

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      • The other side of the tracks should make them want to beat their asses more.

         

        Shit, I WAS that kid, there was no way in hell I ever gave in, gave up or was willing to lose to the kids who thought they were better…NEVER.

         

        Fuck the ducks.

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  39. Beavs have not hit the ball good all night, can't square it up against their pitcher.  He throws it in the zone but kept them off balance just enough to not get any good contact.

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    • In reality, you would have had Don Shanklin run the QB option three times and punted on 4th and 14 from your own 23 yard line.

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  46. This game was like being dealt a 6 on your first hand of blackjack.  I'm hoping today's game is like being dealt a 5 with tomorrow's game being the face card.

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  56. Scoreless through 5 innings. Moore has retired 15 of last 16 batters and has a one hit shutout on just 50 pitches in 5 innings.

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  78. It's a good that I wasn't coaching the Ducks.  I would have scored a touchdown, converted the extra point, recovered an onsides kick and won 10-9 with a last second field goal.  Baseball is too easy.  JB

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  80. From OLive:

     

    "The loss was Oregon's first of the 2012-13 school year against a Northwest rival (Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) in football, men's basketball or baseball this season. The Ducks had won the first 18 games of the school year in those major men's sports."

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  83. Maybe it's already been posted, but does anybody know of a video stream for today? (other than pac 12 network, which i don't have)

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  85. Beaver bats alive early today.  Keyes single to left, followed by Barnes bunt with fielding error by ducks.  2 on to start the 2nd inning. Rodriquez advances Keyes and Barnes to 2nd and 3rd but gets out.  2 on, 1down.

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  88. ducks walk Smith with bases loaded to score Beav's 2nd run.

    Bases still loaded with Peterson up. 

     

    Conforto GRAND SLAM!!!  6-0 Beavs!

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  90. Davis gets on with base hit.  Bats are so active today, Beavs playing with fire.  Maybe they heard Angry doubting them after 1 inning on Friday.

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    • It's win win because I'm either right and look like a genius or wrong and happy to look dumb.

      Beavs offense has surprised me the past two days, no doubt.

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  98. Damn. Should have done the yard work earlier. Would have been pretty exciting to hear Parker go nuts with Conforto's slam.

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  102. 7-1 Beavers now after another Keyes error and an RBI single. Wetzler needs to limit them to just 1 run this inning.

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  104. Ducks get a run in the 5th on an RBI double but Wetzler gets a big double play to limit the damage to a run. 7-2 Beavers. Conforto with a 1 out walk in the 6th. Gotta keep on tacking runs.

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  107. Tony Bryant coming in with 1 out in the 7th. 6 1/3 for Wetzler, 6 hits allowed, 6 strikeouts, 2 runs, 1 ER. Solid start.

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  118. 12-2 final.  Beavs win.  Awesome job boys.  Let's wrap up that Pac-12 title Friday night against Wazzu

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  122. It was really nice to see a Beaver team bitch-whip a Duck team on two consecutive days.  Not to be a glutton, but I really want them to win the non-con game also, so lame Quackers cannot claim they won the series. Even though we all know who won when it counted most.

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  124. The bats are wakin up!    Makin a statement!     Keep it going, guys!     Roll into that post season poundin the ball….yooouuwseeer!

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  126. Great job Beavs smoking Duck.  Great job in basketball filling a huge point guard hole. The guy I was pulling for  (Jesse Holmes) signed to play fb and perhaps bb at the Air Force Academy after turning down preferred bb walkon status with the Ducks, Pepperdine and Boise.  Now how about Beaver women taking a look at his twin sister Nina, a better all around athlete and fiery competitor.

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  130. OT… Everyone take part please.

    The selling of genetically altered seeds isn't really the issue. If you hate the environmental movement for litigating against logging with the Protected Species Act, then you should sign this petition 50 times just to avoid the most litigious group in what we all know to be an overly litigious nation… that being corporations.

    The seeds can reseed and travel to neighboring farms. They can also produce seeding plants which produce next year's seed for farmers. Monsanto has many many people who police these seeds in order to make them an annual purchase. In order to do that, they must file suit against farmers who use second generation seeds for a crop. That propietary extension has been thrown out in advanced countries like Brazil. (?)

    But worse than that is the litigation against farms who end up with reseeds due to nature. Imagine yourself a small businessman who breaks even in an already tough market. Now imagine yourself having to defend yourself because professional agitants hired by Big Ag find a few plants have reseeded on your plot. Their army of lawyers versus you. Can you still break even?

    Big Ag is one of the scourges on this nation. And I'm talking subsidies all the way to protective acts like this and the litigations with which they clog our courts. I'm not even going to start on the "drug war" and how Big Ag has begun Big Jail as an industry all to itself.

    These people need to stopped. Maybe they're just following the laissez faire principle of increased profits in the face of zero regulation. Or maybe they're killing America.

    I think the latter.

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    • I call bulshit. People in Oakland and SF are good with their stadiums. They know what to expect, and they're loyal.

      Maybe someone somewhere is just trying to leverage free money?

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      • *cough*

        *cough*

        Sorry… I thought the idea of stadium rebuilds and new constructions were just a boondoggle for team owners.

        I apologize for being so naive.

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  133. OT I ran into Ben Motter at the gym last week.  He was none too proud of himself for his behavior.  He looked good though so hopefully he got the dumbass out of his system and gets his life turned around.  Knew him when he was in high school and I thought he was a good kid

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        • Why? Is he not yet able to be at peace with himself and his issues? Would the mere mention of his problems send him into a rage?

          I think I'll pass since he has an inch, 15 pounds and 20 years on me… and you seem to think he's not willing to own his actions.

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          • You were the one suggesting he's not cool and probably unstable. Doesn't it make sense to not poke a rabid dog?

            If he were cool, then I would easily rib him for his mistakes. And he could do the same to me.

            I'm a man. I can take what I give and accept who I am and what I've done.

            You suggest Motter is not one. I'll accept your word.

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          • no, I was saying you would be too chicken shit to come down and ask him that to his face.  Kinda what I thought

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          • No. You infer that he's unstable and can't own his actions. I don't poke rabid dogs, let alone seek them out to poke them. Call that chicken if you like. I call it reasonable. If he were not as you infer and could handle himself as a man, then I would have no hesitation to ask him. I also would not ask this of an unstable 5'6", 120# junkie. So your conditions are relative. If he manages to save himself, he will freely offer up info on that life as a warning to others… and because he will then be honest with himself and others.

            Personally, I do like the route the judge and the justice system took in his case. Yes, there was some property theft and b&e. But he's a junkie, and junkies don't do this stuff if drugs are handled correctly. The "war on drugs" creates conditions in which people lost in the subculture feel forced to do irrational things in order to survive.

            I wish him luck breaking that habit. I've seen more people fail in trying than have succeeded. So I know his road is a hard one. I wish our government would get off its butt and trade methodone clinics for ibogaine clinics. But that's another story.

            I am quite interested in the heroin trade and how it kicked up again a few years ago. I think it surpassed prescription drugs a few years back as the number one killer in Oregon for overdoses. Nothing speaks to the abject failure of an increased police state against drugs like the free flow of heroin. And nothing fuels conspiracy theories about illicit agents within our government killing Americans on the street like an influx of a drug sourced from US occupied territories on the other side of the world. I can't tell a conspiracy wonk that there isn't another Ollie North (or two or three) out there. The numbers say there's at least one, if not many anti-American fucks like North out there.

            So when you feel he can handle it, ask him how the hell someone like him got caught up in heroin. I'd also like to know about the football team and other drugs, and he may be able to shed light on that as well. But his personal story is of interest because he was someone who I would never have thought would become the opposite of what he was as a high level athlete and a student.

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          • I'd rather not hold judgment and ask him about his mistakes.  Nor especially bring it up in the tone you did.  He was a good kid when I knew him in HS.

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  134. OT – http://helenair.com/sports/college/carroll-college/indiana-prep-coach-picked-to-lead-carroll-men-s-basketball/article_0e500b34-c22a-11e2-912f-001a4bcf887a.html

    Anybody know/remember Carson Cunningham or why he transferred from the Beavs to Purdue? Also, if Carroll College -(NAIA school – top-notch academics, the football team has won several national championships (and I am reluctant to add, home of the Petrinos)) attracts applications from over 200 basketball coaches, I can only assume there are a lot of basketball coaches out there. ISAH hope CR can find a good one.

     

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      • That may be true for the students – they are neat and upright (maybe even Bobby Petrino whilst he was there) and I doubt that any of them consider going into the brewpub to attempt an underage drink. Interesting juxtaposition – a carousel and a brewpub. However, I thought you, of all people might know of Carson Cunningham and did he really break Gary Payton's freshman scoring record when he was with the Beavs?

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          • I was at that game too.  Carroll didn't embarrass themselves in that game.  They actually hung with PSU for much of it, but had a few costly turnovers in the 2nd half.  PSU was supposed to win that game anyway, they're in a higher rated division.

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    • Not sure exactly why he transferred.  Homesick maybe?  He's from Indiana so maybe he wanted to play closer to home?  All I know is Eddie Payne had a top notch recruiting class that year.  He was great at bringing in talent, but he was also great at having that same talent leave the program early.  That class also had Corey Benjamin, Ron Grady and JB Bickerstaff.  All had moved on by the end of the next year (Benjamin to NBA, Grady and Bickerstaff transferred)  That was a class that could have gone deep in the NCAA Tournament had they stuck together.

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      • Bickerstaff was an ok player at the U of Minn. and is advancing up the food chain in the coaching ranks with the help of dad's connections.

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  135. Just found this link explaining the transfer a little better:

    http://oldgoldfreepress.com/hoopsrecruiting/recruits/cunning.shtml

     

    Player Summary

    Carson Cunningham wanted to come to Purdue last year but was unable due to the verbal commitment of fellow point prospect Mosi Barnes. Since Indiana University showed little interest, he went west to Oregon State University and joined a recruiting class that according to Beaver Coach Eddie Payne was the "Michigan Fab Five minus a power forward". Cunningham would go on to not only co-lead the Beavers in scoring but also lead the team in assists. In a conference full of the nations top point guards Cunningham was named to the PAC10 All-Freshman team. A stat destined to make him a favorite in the eyes of Purdue was his 1.1:1 assist-to-turnover ratio. Keady will stress a 2:1 ratio at Purdue, a mark only approached by center Brad Miller. Purdue's point play suffered most of the season with more turnovers than assists, but Alan Eldridge eventually ended up with a 1.1:1 ratio. Cunningham is a former Indiana All-Star and has played on the same AAU squad with all the Purdue freshmen. His transfer to Purdue will mark only the fourth transfer Coach Keady has accepted at Purdue.

    Current Player News

    11-3-97…Follow this link to a good story on Cunningham from the Indianapolis Star. 10-19-97…A redshirt and a transfer places #1 and #2 in the 3-point shooting contest at Mackey Magic on Friday. Cunningham finished with 11 threes, four short of redshirt freshman B.J. Carretta's winning score. Cunningham played on the Mackey Arena floor in front of a crowd for the second time in recent years. He was in attendance for the Spiece/Mackey AAU challenge in June of 1996, where he performed on the same squad as then Purdue recruits Mike Robinson, Mosi Barnes, Jaraan Cornell, Gary and Greg McQuay. In Mackey on Friday, Cunningham hit from the perimeter using either hand, and showed some of the crisp passing and slashing moves that brought him an All-PAC10 freshman team award last year at Oregon State. 9-11-97…Carson Cunningham has completed his transfer to Purdue University, and has enrolled in classes at the West Lafayette campus. Cunningham will join the team next year after sitting out for a year due to NCAA transfer rules. 4-25-97…Carson Cunningham has officially announced that he will transfer to Purdue after a standout freshman season at Oregon State University. "I'm looking forward to the challenge of playing at Purdue," Carson said. "I decided to get back to the area and play closer to my family. I wanted a chance to win a title." Carson called it a "hard call" to decide to leave Oregon State. "It's probably one of the bigger decisions I'll probably have to make in my life," added Cunningham. "I think everything will work out OK. It's not a reflection on Oregon State."

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  136. Thanks, BB – you answered it all during the time I was typing away to Jack. Wow – 2 bad they all transferred. Think what might have been. I don't pay much attention to Carroll athletics and I can only think this is a stepping stone for Mr. Cunningham. Still, I find the OSU connection of interest.

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    • I don't know how good they would have been. If I remember correctly they were a 20 loss team even as the "West Coast Fab Five".  They really didn't have an inside presence in a tough P-10.  I remember watching them barely put away Portland St.  Like Gopher said Bickerstaff was ok at Minny and Grady was ok at Colorado St.  Cunningham had a lot of talent around him and better coaching at Purdue.

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  137. PAC's Scott highest paid commissioner? That shouldn't last long (how would the SEC tolerate it?!?):

    http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/20/pac-12-larry-scott-highest-paid-commissioner/?sct=uk_t2_a5

     

    Speculations on the future of NCAA football:

     

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130522/ncaa-conference-relationship-mailbag/?sct=uk_t11_a1

    C'mon Mike! Win one legitimate, sccandal free Rose Bowl before I walk away from this mess. "Go out there and win one for the 'Critic!"

    That should be inspiring….

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  138. A few weeks ago I was talking about a bad feeling in our social/economic markets.

    Well, Japanese stocks were down over 7% today, over 1000 points. Considering our own market melted up on light volume and for the same reasons as theirs, the crowded trade could become desolate quickly.

    (Go Beavs)

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    • Another blowout in the jgb market.  The alarm bells have got to be deafening in Tokyo.  Only $10 trillion at stake here.  

      This reminds me of watching the mortgage meltdown.  Except this is watching an entire country meltdown.

       

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  139. http://www.katu.com/sports/Documents-shed-more-light-on-Oregons-NCAA-investigation-208569051.html

    "The notice of allegations does not include any mention of “lack of institutional control,” which could have led to harsher penalties. It does, however, say the Ducks could be penalized under the so-called repeat offender clause because they previously violated NCAA rules in 2004."

     

    Wouldnt repeat major infraction offender inherently mean lack of institutional control?

     

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    • I think it means that they knew they were violating rules, and tried to cover it up or ignored it.    But that Lyles activity in Texas seemed to implicate James, so cant see how they get off light.    Is it the Nike connection?  

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  140. Anyone know what is happening with the site: D1Baseball.com??  A terrific source for info but now I only get a "403 Forbidden" message.  Hope it is only temporary.

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  142. So glad our rebranding makes our brand so recognizeable.

    Sheesh!

    What the author fails to note is that oSu baseball used the linked OS we were using with only a slightly different font. So Cowboy fans were buying those caps because they easily pass for "throwback" oSu caps. And if they were the block O caps, then you can go back even further to find oSu unis with that O on the cap and STATE across the chest. Those were some classic unis.

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  144. So I know about the 2013 class signed in November. And I expect to lose a couple to the majors since none of them have done what Conforto and Davis did and just told scouts there was no way they were going to sign, so don't bother wasting a pick on them… so far.

    But I just picked this bit up as well. Casey is beyond nationwide continentwide hemispherewide now.

    I also like this official Pac 12 baseball blog write-up as much for what's missing as for the headline. Simply awesome! Sorry to the conspiracy wonks in advance.

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    • "New Zealand’s top baseball prospect Makauley Fox is heading to study and play baseball at Oregon State University after securing a full scholarship from the prestigious United States school."

      They know their stuff. I like this site!

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      • These are the bits I liked:

        Makauley Fox is heading to study and play baseball at Oregon State University

        if you train hard and also work hard in school (Fox)

         it’s also a positive and wonderful time in a young man’s life when you have options,’’ he said. ( Baseball New Zealand chief executive Ryan Flynn)

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    • Any word on where this guy would have gone in the draft? Or better yet, are there any good sites for baseball recruiting?

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      • The draft is only open to players who have graduated HS or finished three years at a higher level (with some caveats for both) in Canada, the US or a US territory.

        I haven't seen any comparables, but there are penalties for oversigning (or bonusing) international free agents. So if several MLB teams were after him they must have seen good value.

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  146. Any chance we can get a new thread before the game starts?

     

    Anybody know of any video streams.  Sounds like it's on the Pac-12 network so those of us without Comcast are left out again.

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