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Riley Comparison

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Interesting post from pure-orange via ObjCritic. Apparently some of those retards are finally questioning Riley (blind indoctrination…it’s like Ben Bernanke only recognizing the housing bubble in late 2008 during meltdown and then still denying the causes).

The first 6 years:

won/lost was 31/22 (won 58% of games)

won 5 bowl games

2006 finished with AP ranking of 21st

2007 finished with AP ranking of 25th

2008 was his best PAC-10/12 record of 7-2

2008 was his best end of season AP ranking of 18th

2008 was the 3-0 (Kahut field goal) win over Pittsburg

The last five years:

won/lost was 23/25 (won 48%)

won 1 bowl / lost 2 bowls

2012 finished with AP ranking of 20th

Even some of the posters there are questioning the direction of the program and Riley’s processes and methods.

This recruiting class doesn’t look particularly special, and looks weak at need areas of DT and LB, but I’d defer to nformed assessments by Beaverkman, SS, Jack….hopefully from the 2013 class Hunt, Scott, and Onkwonko can deliver at CB, Jarmon/Villamin/Bolden at WR, the JC DTs + Grimble will contribute and Alexander/Doctor will improve and stay on the field…after next year though, opportunities for program success look to be declining.

Quinnipiac @ Oregon State

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Sunday at 8pm, the mighty Quinnipiac visits Gil.

This is the last non-conference game, so it looks like the Beavers will go 8-4 versus horrible competition (#168 RPI). Hopefully Gary Payton II is half as good as his father, because right now the trend is clearly a slow decline, despite 5 years of “rebuilding”. With Nelson and Collier leaving I don’t see who will score. Jack and/or the two guys who still watch Beav hoops — are any of the underclassman ready to replace these guys?

Hawaii Bowl: Oregon State vs Boise State

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I’m going to pose a simple question: does anyone care about this game?

Warning: now I’ll rant and get on my high horse a bit. If you’re going to whine about it, stop reading now.

I assume I’m an average fan at this point. Sure, years ago I was rabid, but now I follow the Beavs more casually. For those of you in my camp, do you care at all about this game? I mean, I’ll watch it, but the only slightly intriguing storyline is to see if Riley gets above .500 to take some heat off him. I haven’t read one article, watched any video, or even checked the Vegas line. It just seems there are better things to do in life than deal with this game, or the Beavs in general.

Am I alone? Or has there been a sea change where it’s hard to “get up” for these games, even as a fan? Since we were all into the Stanford game, I assume what I’m feeling is natural apathy that comes from losing and being “put in your place” after thinking, briefly, that your place was higher up the echelon. Riley lost the fanbase, yeah? He had it for two games this year: opening day (just the excitement that comes with a new season) and Stanford, and he lost it both times.

Now we’re supposed to be good fans and find reasons to care about Boise State? I just don’t see that as my responsibility, to manufacture excitement when it’s not there. The media is trying to do it with puff pieces and feel good stories, but they all fall flat.

The real story, one the media will never print, is that there is no reason to watch this game. If you want to get excited about recruiting (though, I have been watching film on these guys, and this is a bad class) that’s understandable. At least there’s hope and future there. You can delude yourself into thinking these diamonds in the rough (more like low hanging fruit) will raise the program to unforeseen heights. I get all that. But I don’t get why anyone would waste precious seconds of their life reading about Oregon State/Boise State.

34-24, Beavs

Diamond Head Classic Thread

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Basketball tournament Sunday-Wednesday.

General Discussion

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Not much interesting going on. The upcoming bowl game might be entertaining, but that’s about it. The storyline there is whether Riley can avoid another losing season. Maybe seeing some younger players (e.g. Saulo, if he excites you).

Schnell implies all is well in the world because the Beavs are playing in “paradise” (is this a bowl game or a  vacation?)… click for more Schnell puffery

I do think the Beavs are better than BSU and will win this game, but man, that article sounds like all pleasure, no business, so maybe not.

Anyway, general discussion. Anything you wish.