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Mike Riley Talks to TEs Like They are His Pet Dog

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Or 5 year old son.

I mean, listen to this.

Holy cow his is going to be bad, and we have Scott Barnes, Jon Smith, and Ed Ray to thank. That video is so terrifying it’s time to name names and hold all these people accountable…as well as the old guard.

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    • What reach?

      I won’t watch the vid, because I don’t want to watch a known dishonorable quitter. But I’ll bet that dishonorable quitter is a dishonorable quitter.

      And I guess that’s a surprise to anyone who sees him anew.

      Morons.

        • Blah blah blah, you sure can’t let one mention of riley go by without blathering on about him being a quitter. Your opinion, and the consistent blathering on about your opinion is just obnoxious. We all get your opinion that he is a quitter. That is not why any other person on this site doesn’t like him.

          • What fucking opinion?

            He quit on OSU twice.

            Is the number two just an opinion to you? Are you one of those wishy-washy minds that thinks quitting is not quitting?

            I’d love to hear your take on how divorce isn’t really an end to a marriage. It must just be some legal opinion or something.

            What kind of upside-down world do you live in where facts are just opinions?

            My opinion is that you’re a moron for conflating fact with opinion.

          • Anderson quit, riley bought out his contract to take a better job. I draw. In a business that firing is a major threat at all times, I have no problem that a coach puts his career above an institution.

          • You also have no problem when that institution chooses to normalize that behavior.

            Show me any companies that do that, and I will show you major divestment.

          • You obviously aren’t part of corporate America. People often come back to a company that they have “quit” for a better job. Often, they come back to an elevated position.

            Either way, my main point was to say that your argument is getting old. Look at this topic and you will see that you have monopolized the topic just sayingthe same crap over and over. It just screams that you are trying to convince people that you are right through repetition rather than merit.

          • Do those people quit without notice… or even over the phone?

            I highly doubt that since being a professional is the reason they are considered eligible for hire by a competent company.

            We’re also talking about CEO level pay. So you’re going to have to go above what I would consider assistant coach status at best. But we’re not talking about moving on up the food chain here. We’re talking lateral moves borne of greed and/or obstinance.

            So you’re either a merc or unprofessional. In this case, he’s both.

            An efficient organization understands this and will not normalize what you are trying to normalize. It is an immediate failure. And then you have to come to terms with the static thinking you just rehired. I have seen people get rehired at certain places where they were unceremoniously waved to on their way out the door because of actions like this. I have never seen it work out well. Soon enough, the organization realizes why that person wasn’t a good fit in the first place.

            We had this discussion already. I think the only company we could find that did rehire a CEO was JC Penney. You can see how that worked for them.

          • “We had this discussion already”

            That was my point, we have heard your point for months. It hasn’t changed, move on with your life and stop blathering about this on the blog. You have around 25% of this post talking about “that quitter”.

          • You want to talk OSU football, then this is what you’re going to get. This is what OSU football is, lock stock and smoking barrell. My position doesn’t change because OSU football has yet to change for the better.

            This is what you will hear constantly until OSU football decides it wants to reenter the norms of decency, honor and integrity. Until then, this very visible pimple on OSU’s face will e pointed to as the very very poor decision it is.

            If you don’t like it, do something about it. If you’re fine with it, take what it brings with it like something other than an entiltled whiner.

          • Put another way, if you want to talk about OSU football as being relevant and respectful, you need to first remove their disrespect for themselves. Until that happens, the first response will always be a request for them to grow the fuck up.

            Anyone who wants to normalize this is missing the forest for the trees, not vice versa.

  1. ASU brings in a new arm for the b8, Luke still standing after 8, 106 pitches.
    If you aren’t watching, you’re missing some very solid D (and excellent pitching) by the Beavs.
    2-0 good guys.
    EDIT/ADD: Add to that some nice baserunning, an Adley FEETFIRST slide and a couple ASU E’s and it’s 6-0 Beavs still in the b8.

      • Nothing like being a two-time quitter at one place, quitting while on the job at another place, sabotaging anything even remotely good at the place you quit twice before then stepping in with the oblivious “I’m just an innocent bystander, not a multi-quitter looking for the easy out from a bunch of chumps.”

          • Why?

            This is now my relationship with OSU football.

            It’s a deserved consequence for a very poor decision. If OSU football wants to quit, I will abide so long as they do.

            I guess you could say that me playing OSU’s record over and over is what’s annoying you. It’s not mine.

            You want it to change?

            I do too.

    • “Am amazed to find that there are actually folks, OSU fans, that aren’t thrilled to have Riley back. Great developer of talent. Great offensive mind. #GoBeavs”

      #barf

    • I don’t hate the re-rehire of Mike Riley, btw.

      I just know it’s unethical professionally and personally, and it’s completely antithetical to best practices for efficiency.

      I hate that anyone at OSU is that immoral plus that stupid. I hate that they make us all chumps if we want to cheer for our alma mater’s football team.

      So I choose not to be a chump.

  2. OK…… I will give Mike Riley this, he would make a great coach for 3rd grade Pop Warner. That video clip is embarrassing, it’s an insult to the young men that play on the team to be treated like 3rd graders.. Life isn’t 3rd grade.. That’s not preparing them for shit… That’s awful..

    • He’s a fucking quitter.

      If anyone at OSU would like to discuss this, they need first to address this glaring weakness. Anyone under his purview is subject to his loserdom. He’s getting rich. He’s a quitter.

      He’s a quitter.

      And it’s not just after the season. As he did at Nebraska, he will simply quit during any given season.

      He’s a quitter.

      I hopeone day to make my case before someone who has an ounce of sense.

      Until then… down in front.

  3. Has anyone recently mentioned that Michael Riley is a quitter twice over at OSU alone? He’s also a quitter at Nebraska. But it’s rumored that he quit there so he could throw last year’s athletes under the bus with all the talk about him returning to OSU… as the quitter he is.

    • Come on….im no Riley fan but he left OSU to take much better jobs….get over it and move on….thats what Riley did…he moved on and then back and then on and then back…the rest of the story is about to begin again.

      • Yes… he left OSU.

        He quit on OSU twice.

        OSU is who he quit on… twice.

        He put his best interests ahead of OSU… twice.

        He didn’t even have the decency to man up when he quit the second time, slinking away with a phone call. He was probably on a recruiting trip when he met with the AD he got fired at Nebby… because it was such a better job… so he quit there in the middle of a season.

        He’s a fucking quitter.

        Fortunately, only OSU and Nebby are the only places he quit. If he ever wanted to rehab his quitting ways, there are hundreds of other schools at which to do so. But those two schools know first hand that he isn’t committed to them at all. And one of them was already burned by him once. So why the fuck not just go full chump?

        I’m so done with college football. One douche of a quitter has spoiled it for me. There’s no getting over it until he just quits… again. I can’t believe anyone at OSU would be so devoid of ethics so as to allow some idiot to re-rehire him. But that’s the reality of OSU football right now. And it’s hard not to look at the whole of OSU athletics and be depressed. If something this majorly wrong is okay in their minds, what else is going on behind closed doors? There is an ocean of wrong between re-rehiring Mike Riley at OSU and doing what’s right. And then you have grey area to cross as well. If something this wrong is acceptable, anything wrong must be acceptable to OSU and our chump fans.

        • “He put his best interests ahead of OSU… twice.”

          While he is an OSU-quitter (not quite at the level of Anderpants), pretty much everyone would put their own professional interests ahead of those of their employer. Are you obligated to stay at every company you work for until you get fired? Of course not.

          C’mon you’re making me defend the gum chewer here *puke*

          • First, I would never quit without notice or over the phone.

            So let’s now draw comparisons given your scenario.

            I understand coaching is that way (minus the phone bit) because of the necessity to get an organization and recruiting in place. But that doesn’t normalize the very real actions that are taken in each instance. It’s still quitting without notice, leaving your former organization in the lurch… usually at the worst time in terms of recruiting.

            When I leave a position, I give them enough notice so that they aren’t stuck without someone to do that job. If they don’t fill that role, that’s their choice.

            In your scenario, you now have to explain to your kids that burning bridges is a normalized practice. In mine, I taught my kids to honor their commitments and respect them enough to be a great team player to the last day.

            OSU doesn’t want that respect now. So I’m not going to give it to them.

  4. I’m happy to say that Dee gives me a harumph when she sees me these days.

    And that’s before I get to tell her what a dishonorable quitter her husband is.

    Maybe not beg a quitter is a good ethic.. not that OSU would tell this to you with their actions.

    We’re such chumps.

  5. Here’s a list of things to watch for at the Spring Game today, by an AB’er or at least a kindred spirit! Starts off by taking a swipe at the “throw away newspaper written by *Morons* up north…”

    Only thing missing from the list is the significance of seeing how each coach involves himself with his players. Our last staff would be checking out cheerleaders and gals in attendance, this group will likely have Riley sleeping, but how about the rest? Will they show energetic engagement?

    https://pnwsportsfans.com/2018/04/27/osu-football-spring-game-preview-8-things-we-will-be-watching/

  6. Something to consider for you Simple Jack apologists……………….

    He left OSU twice. For bigger and better opportunities. Be that as it may, he fell flat on his face. Twice. What does that say about Mike Riley as a coach?

  7. Being loyal to an Institution is stupid. So I have no problem with Riley leaving. In fact, I wish he’d leave again and stay away. My issue is that he’s a bad coach. He’s not even mediocre anymore. If you can’t win at Nebraska you’re bad.

    • We’re not talking about loyalty.

      We’re talking about proper consequences to real actions.

      Well… that’s what I’m talking about. If you want to talk about loyalty, then it’s also stupid for an institution to be loyal to anyone based on your premise. It would be doubly stupid to give any trust or loyalty to someone who has not earned it.

        • So his premise is showing to be correct more often than not on the anecdotal front.

          I won’t disagree.

          That leads to the re-rehire of Riley being a highly stupid thing to do, if we’re to follow this premise. Institutions will act on information, not emotion. Loyalty is an emotion. Information is accumulated. Riley’s accumulated information related to OSU is that he’s a two time quitter who went on to be a quitter wherever he went immediately after he quit on OSU.

          It should have been clear when he replaced Joe Pascale with some assistant DB coach, who hadn’t earned even the job he had, that Mike Riley isn’t a good coach. Neither is he beholden to the sport enough to even try.

          He’s a quitter.

          I hope you weren’t trying to defend that which is indefensible.

  8. Ryan Nall goes UNDRAFTED….as I predicted.

    Media can spin it as a good thing that he can choose which team he wants to play for.

    He’ll get a shot but it’s long uphill battle for him. Best case scenario, he sticks around on the practice squad hoping for injuries to the guys who make the cut.

  9. Did we win the spring game???

    It’s been so long since the Beavers won anything in football except for a coin toss.

      • They don’t need to pay me to not show up.

        $50, a half case of beer and free tickets wouldn’t be enough to get me to show up.

        Beaver football = steaming pile of burning garbage

  10. Nall will either surprise the Bears/NFL or should have returned for a Senior season. I’m mixed, because he quit last year and I think insiders in the NFL saw that. Too bad, cause he is a talent with size and speed..

    • The Bears are a pretty poor landing spot for Nall. They have a pretty established – and talented – pair of RBs in Howard and Cohen that he’s not likely to beat out.

      Realistically, he needs to be able to beat out Cunningham for the #3 spot, and then hope for an injury, or at least enough PT over 4 years that someone signs him to a real contract at that time.

      FWIW- that’s not a bad path for an NFL RB. The average RB career is so short that a lot of talented guys never see the second contract, where the money is. If Nall’s good enough to stay on a team (and off the practice squad) for the duration of his FA contract, he has the chance to get a say in where he goes, get a significant chunk of change, AND keep some tread on the tires in the meantime.

        • What? You’re back again with inside info?
          I’ll bet you can’t share details due to fear of legal action.

          The boys downtown will find that other subpoena for your thumbdrive pretty soon!

        • His quitting in the early part of the season led to him being unprepared to handle all contingencies, including the wham block that Wiley-Matagi half-assed.

          I suppose I was fortunate to hear your original rant suggesting this… or you were.

    • Agree. What a difference from the stellar D yesterday.
      And as I get ready to post, a nice 5-4-3 DP to end the t6. 5-4 good guys.

  11. One of the weirdest baseball games I’ve watched and it’s not over…..7-5 ASU Beavs bases loaded and Madrigal line shot to first for a d-play. Man, this game is so freaking weird. ASU second baseman on a routine throw to first throws wide opening the door for the Beavs with madrigal who makes great contact on a line drive right at the 1st baseman….inning over….yikes

  12. He comes across as more of a mentor/cheerleader in this clip….I’m not seeing much actual coaching. In his position the coaching and strategizing should come first, not mentoring and/or pretending to be their daddy. It’s uncomfortable to watch.

  13. We were gonna go do some fishing today but I decided to have a kidney stone instead. Never had one before, if you get the chance go ahead and skip it.

    • Ouch!

      I had a friend who had pain one day, found out he had one, scheduled a sonic procedure and passed the damn thing three hours later.

      He said it was not pleasant, but the relief from the pain afterward was worth all the not pleasant.

      Plus… he didn’t have to go through the sonic thingy and pay for that. Although, I think the USAF would have paid for it.

  14. That is the worst game I can remember a Casey coached team playing.
    Bad D, poor fundamentals, and boneheaded mental errors abound.
    Is our star catcher injured, or did he catch Steve Sax disease? Can’t throw to second all of a sudden.
    Yeskie won’t win any coaching awards this year. Without Luke, this season could really be ugly.
    ASU did everything possible to give the game away and da Beavs could not take advantage.
    Gambrell better pitch his ass off today.

  15. Noticed in an article a recently that QB Pat O’Brien is transferring from Nebraska because he’s not a fit in Frost’s offense. Wonder if he’ll follow mike riley?

    “The 6-foot-4, 230-pound O’Brien was recruited by former coach Mike Riley to run a pro-style offense.O’Brien, a four-star recruit in the 2016 class, leaves NU having completed 18 of 30 passes, all in 2017 mop-up duty behind Tanner Lee, who beat O’Brien last spring for the starting job. O’Brien played the second half of the 54-21 loss to Minnesota — completing 12 of 18 passes for 137 yards — in relief of Lee, who had suffered a concussion. Lee recovered the following week, however, and O’Brien did not throw a pass for the rest of the season”

      • Because Riley’s offense was known for having their QB’s developed by their Junior/Senior year. Jury is out with Lindgren and Smith’s Offense.

        • Also no clear starter for this season or beyond. This is Luton’s last shot…no HS QB recruited this past cycle to RS this year and take over next, correct?

          NU would likely grant O’Brien clearance to play at OSU. I don’t know if he would have to wait a year, or could practice this fall?

  16. Spring Game was very fun yesterday. Watched some drills and then they scrimmaged. Would have liked to feel a little more energy. Saw former players, met Matt Moore, really nice staff around the stadium. Could go into Toyota Level. Weather turned out to be pretty good. Lots of kids and adults on the field at the end. Will go again next year.

      • Seemed like a typical pace, not super fast but there was an emphasis on getting a call and getting the so the qb could make adjustments. A few things I noticed though from a guy that has never played fb:
        -saw two dropped snaps (Luton and Colleto each) ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME
        -Smalls seems to know how to make himself an open target
        -some wide open running backs leaking out and missed by the qb
        -Neither Luton or Colleto stood out
        -Moran got snaps at qb (thought he was a wr now, not sure why Colletto or Luton don’t get those snaps)
        -defense played fast
        -our wr get open, we just need a qb to get them the ball (Taylor looks good)

  17. Claunch with a nice throw to cut down SunDevil runner at 2b on steal attempt. Nice to see such a good throw after Adley’s recent miscues.
    Middle of the 2nd Beavs up 2-1

    EDIT/ADD: Claunch hits his first career HR as a follow up to that nice throw. End of 2, 3-1.

  18. Listening to Parker’s call today and yesterday and he has repeatedly made incorrect calls on the score, batter’s count, etc. and he’s done it consistently…..not sure what the heck is wrong with him.

  19. Anybody who watched the spring game, how did Jaelen Bush look?

    Also, is there a recording anywhere for those of us who want to see it?

  20. Beavs up to #3 in D1 poll. Casey’s team gets the benefit of the doubt.
    Is Verburg out for the year? Sure could use a guy that can throw strikes.

    • Does this surprise you?

      Being realistic the Beavs had zero chance of beating out higher profile programs in Louisville and tOSU.

      • He was down to us, Louisville and ASU.
        Louisville is caught up in the FBI scandal and coaching change so I figured most players would avoid that program because of the uncertain future they face.
        ASU actually has a PG. So yes, I’m a little surprised, because we have a team with experience at most positions, but no PG to run it. He would have started immediately.
        But, I’m also realistic and know we are the Beavs, so nothing surprises me

    • One of my patients is an Ohio State grad and trolled me last week. Came in with Buckeye garb and said he just noticed who their first game was against. Christians vs lions was my appraisal and told him to check the baseball scores. Of course he doesn’t care about baseball. Team and fans will need grief counseling after the “Return” debut in the Shoe.

  21. Anybody here watch the show “Alone” on History channel?
    I dont watch much tv, but happened to start watching season 1 last night(i think its currently in season 5)
    Pretty good show. They drop 10 people on remote parts of Vancouver Island and they try to outlast each other out in nature with 10 objects of their choosing. The elements and animals of the area make it pretty challenging. Entertaining, slow burn type show so far.

  22. Here are my few takeaways from the Spring game.

    (1) Riley spent about 20-25 minutes of what was supposed to be practice time talking with Ed Ray. So, we know where his priorities lie.

    (2) It now appears to have been a good thing that Blount preserved some of his eligibility. He was FAR superior to Colletto and Luton in being able to deliver a ball, or do something as simple as catch the snap when delivered to him.

    (3) We’ll see a lot of the fade called if and when Blount gets the team inside the 5 yard line. it was the one throw all four qb’s attempted several times.

      • Yeah it looks like most of the starting secondary is injured right now. Not sure who #14 is but from the limited clips I saw he was getting torched pretty much at will.

  23. I think it’s fair to take away that the Riley shit show continues. Practice time is a regulated event and a limited commodity. Any waste of practice time is completely foolish. All popsicles and slip and slides.

    • I appreciated wannabeavs observation/report of Riley at the practice/spring game; still curious if other coaches did anything noteworthy.

      I did notice that Eggers (in a tweet) wasn’t ready to say anything more than that the new coaching staff is “working hard” and that GA’s staff did the same.

      EDIT/ADD: A bit later, Eggers says he wouldn’t disagree with this statement: Effort being equal sounds fair. I think it’s also fair to say Smith’s staff is a step above what that last guy assembled.

  24. Recently there was discussion of Kwan’s walk up music. Lundeberg tweets this:
    “…He was sick and picking up a prescription at a pharmacy when Dancing Queen started playing. It instantly made him feel better”

    This Lundeberg guy handles himself like an actual Beat Reporter, a welcome change from what we’ve seen from the big zero.

    • Just like they criticized Riley after the fact. Nobody but AB has the balls to do this stuff in the moment while it’s happening.

      I do enjoy their podcast most of the time, FWIW. Sprague is a dope, and Angie is always trying to sell subscriptions, but it’s still somehow entertaining.

      • MM quit too.

        It’s amazing how much quit is ingrained in OSU and its fans.

        Quit, quit, quit, quit.

        OSU likes to quit.

        And when we have soe team rise above all the quitting, the world knows we can be beat down by whatever means… because we know how to quit.

        • Greg Street corrupted the College World Series. We accepted it… because we’re quitters. Why rock the boat when you’re at least foot within wrong?

          Re-rehiring middling putzes doesn’t help.

          • If I didn’t, I would give proper notice as stated in the employee manual. And if I did but changed my mind at a later date, I would expect the organization to check to see that I left as an employee eligible for rehire… as efficient organizations would have classified me immediately after my exit interview.

            If I quit without notice, I sure as hell wouldn’t go back to that organization and expect anything more than an email telling me they would keep my application on file. That’s just the consequence of a negative exit. So I wouldn’t ask any organization to dismiss its printed policy for just me, especially if I cared about said organization. That action opens the door to litigation when they don’t rehire anyone else for the same policy breach.

            You also immediately diminish morale in those employees who do abide by policy or who do stay. Although, the level of sycophancy for this man is blinding the low bar of expectations met by his hire. But it will become apparent soon enough.

          • Generally, I would work harder and win the job.

            In his case, I would have put 10 more pounds of muscle on to show that I was committed over the summer to win the job outright. If I didn’t win it, I would have taken my reps at #2 and outplayed #1 on every one of them.

            Then I would have put money on game three in the “When will McGiven break Luton” pool.

          • -or-

            I wouldn’t have shown up for fall ball and committed to the team. I have my degree. That decision is to be made before I step foot on the field with any team. I sure as shit don’t have a foot out the door when I do commit to a team. That would noticeably affect my focus and performance.

      • Dunno about quitting per Jack, but luck of da beavs pervades. Why oh why did timing ordain that, when Riley left, (hip, hip, hooray) Gary Andersen would, in that moment, leave Wisconsin to curse Oregon State football for almost three years.

        • more like curse it for 5-6 years…he just made a rebuilding year into a rebuilding decade. Toxic is as Toxic does….kills. GA killed whatever Riley built and now JS is trying to rise this program out of the ashes.

          • “GA killed whatever Riley built ”

            I think Riley was already burning the program down, GA just poured gas on it.

          • Riley helped form a culture that is predicated on welcoming and family atmosphere. That is the identity of the program. Riley always was open to having former players come back, but JS, a former player himself now the head coach, that means more to Alums than anything. Riley had reached his end after 2 straight seasons playing the Civil War for the Rose Bowl. Riley went 6-2 at Oregon State in Bowl games and 1-1 at Nebraska(Beating UCLA first year, then lost to Tennessee second year).

          • Okay?

            The question was what he built. If the culture is what you want to claim, then it should be one that survives after he leaves if it’s to be anything of substance in this context.

            heh heh… identity

    • Marcus was a former player for GA. So it’s now slowly coming out how GA was forcing his agenda on the team. We didn’t know the details, but we knew the details and facts would come out. They weren’t criticizing GA and his staff, they were just comparing the differences between coaching staffs and how players were treated, including the walk-on players.It’s enlightening.

      • Greaves basically confirms guys were run off. GA only played his recruits. That’s what I saw and tried pointing out, with much backlash. It was so obvious. Some guys had no business playing yet where in there, as better players sat on the bench.

          • Nall having to learn the playbook on the O side and lose bad weight because Riley wanted to make hi a linebacker and played him as such on the practice squad explains all of Nall’s early lack of PT.

            Don’t try and pawn that one off on GA.

            Nall quitting in the early part of the season was also Nall’s decision. But at least that was something you can blame on GA because he started him over other RBs who were there to actually play.

            Who was run off? Are we talking walk-ons?

          • MM wasn’t run off. MM quit.

            If you’re saying MM was hurt by not getting the starting nod, that’s understood. But that’s not being run off. That was just a poor decision made by a coach or coaches. That happens on teams. If you’ve committed to a team, you understand this is one of the possible outcomes. Most players resolve to work harder.

            Some choose to quit because their entitlement is greater than their resolve.

            MM leaving was all MM’s choice. He committed to the team then left when his entitlement got the better of him. I’m glad it worked out for him. But he was never a leader on that team. Leaders aren’t the first to run away.

          • You saying over and over again that McM wasn’t a leader on the team doesn’t make it so. It makes it your opinion.

            In fact, if you listen to the podcast Greaves was on that team and he was in the huddle when MCM was the leader on that team during the civil war win. First hand account, eye witness. Not an opinion.

            Then GA did GA’s typical bullshit so McM went somewhere where he’d be appreciated rather than try to prove his worth *again* to a head coach that obviously didn’t want him there.

          • Oh… leaders are the first to run away.

            That’s what I meant to say.

            Silly me. Opinions are funny that way.

            Leaders are the first to run away. Good to know.

            Leaders have transfer plans in their back pocket when they show up to lead a team in the fall. Good to know.

            Leaders leave their team without depth at a position they thought they had a leader.

            Good to know.

            I’ll amend my “opinion” of how a leader should act to conform to these facts.

            How did I get them all backward?

          • McM was run off

            Well yeah…

            WFO, MCM was the leader. You could see and feel the air fall out of the team when he was put on 3rd string. He would have won them a few more games and made the offense look respectable. He wasn’t a game changer but a very good game manger who was improving each week. GA choose to be blind to that, and so GA went nuts, quit, and went into rehab.

            Jack is just on his high horse acting holier than thou. If the best player is put on 3rd string for no reason other than the coach didn’t recruit him, then that player should leave and so somewhere he’s appreciated. Nobody worked harder than McM. Working harder wasn’t going to matter or get it done with GA. Jack has some major problems with his perception of quitting. He said Riley quit, too. Going after a better opportunity does not equal quitting. Imagine if every OSU grad just stayed out OSU out of loyalty? Lol. That Linus Pauling was a real quitter for going to Cal Tech! Lol

          • He put himself on 3rd string by not showing up for practice.

            Try again.

            He was already gone by the time 3rd string came around.

          • And Riley quitting is just what he did. If you don’t give notice, what do you call it? If you have a problem with quitting, then you have a problem with MM and Riley. They quit. Once they quit, they are nothing to the organization they left (without feedback, btw). There is no daydreaming about who they would have been had they not quit. There is just what remains.

            I don’t begrudge him quitting to go somewhere he thought was better. I begrudge him coming back after somewhere better kicked him to the curb. It bothered the shit out of me when Bobby D allowed him to return. And I was not alone.

            Once a quitter, always a quitter. If anyone was surprised by the second time, they were delusional about who they were studying. His pretty little nostalgia neat deals about Corvallis always rung hollow, more so now.

            What Snyder did at KSU is completely acceptable. His greener grass was supposed to be family, not some other school… with the best fans in the nation. And the only reason he returned was because what he thought he left as a solid organization was having problems following his lead. I have a lot of respect for Snyder.

            While I respect the decision to quit for other opportunities, I do not have respect for that person when I think of them through the lens of the organization they just quit. Perhaps respect is too heavy a word for you guys, since you don’t seem to know the definition of quit. Maybe I should say that lens would never allow me to trust that person for that organization ever again. I can’t really respect someone I don’t trust. I can respect them outside that lens, but not within.

          • You guys are trying to redefine some pretty remedial stuff. You can like this guy and dislike that guy all you want. You’re not going to change the basics.

          • Maybe you need to define what you think “quit” means. In the context of sports, it usually means “to give up”….but it can mean simply “to leave”. If the latter, yeah, he quit. I’d just say he transferred to a place that appreciated him and wanted him, but if you want to call that quitting (leaving) you’re technically correct. If you mean he gave up, obviously you’re very wrong.

          • Where he went has no bearing on his actions with OSU.

            He showed up for fall ball. That means he committed to the team. He could have decided to leave in the spring. If he cared about the team, he would have given them time to find contingencies for the depth issue he leaves behind… not that GA would have done that at that position.

            When you show up for fall ball, you are committed. When you choose not to be committed anymore, you have given up. It can be for the best reasons in the world, but it’s still quitting. His reason was entitlement. That’s fine. Buh-bye and good luck.

          • And before any of you try to retread the “GA bullshit forced him to leave” tire, does that mean that we need to amend the fool me twice maxim?

            Fool me thrice, shame back on you.

            ?

            For the record, I thought Luton winning the job was the wrong call. I could see where the coaches thought their plan for the O led them to make that decision. But I was completely against their plan and would have rather had a game manager with wrinkles until we got someone who could actually compete for the job.

          • Yeah, that is convoluted thinking. Sorry. If you meant he “quit” in the simple sense that “he left permanently” then technically under that definition you’d be correct.

            As Greaves noted, GA lead McM on to keep him as long as possible. He should have left earlier because it was obvious GA was doing this, but he was so committed to the team he tried to ride it out.

  25. Re: Riley’s coaching of the TE’s

    I was at the Mountainside scrimmage/practice, and I was as close as any fan could get to the TE’s as they did some drills in the corner of the EZ. Riley wasn’t around for half the time (not sure where he was), but when he was around, he didn’t do much coaching.

    Let’s be clear – Brian Wozniak (quality control assistant) is really coaching the TEs.

    Riley is a figurehead that the university trots around like he’s some old legend or hall of famer. I hope that he treats this year as his pseudo-victory lap and then “retires” to some consultant position where he’s not on the actual coaching staff next year. Let him schmooze donors in the Toyota Club next year and give hip-hip-hooray speeches, but get him away from the day-to-day football operations.

      • Looks like my perception of the short clip was spot on too. Mr. Rogers is alive and well in the Oregon State football program. It’s a good day today, and why shouldn’t it be?! Ok Bilbo Baggins, time to go sail away and take your long and needed Holiday.

    • Change that to “….let him SNOOZE in the Toyota Club next year….”

      If he’s schoomzing donors, he’s reinforcing low/no expectations. I also fear OSU retaining him as a consultant and prolonging the mediocrity. “Yeah, sure, whatever. Just make it your identity. Looks good. Have you transferred the funds to my account yet?!?”

      He should be coaching at a Corvallis HS for free and hanging out and sleeping at the Toyota Club where fans can chat him up. He should not a representative of OSU in any fashion.

    • ” Riley wasn’t around for half the time (not sure where he was), …he didn’t do much coaching.
      According to wannabeav above, MR spent significant time brown nosing Ed Ray.

  26. Wow, on the DamPodcast Angie says (and Greaves confirms) GA lost the locker room with the McM decision. Again, what I wrote AT THE TIME, and people laughed. Is being able to see situations a gift or just detaching from emotion and looking at the situation objectively and logically?

    This Podcast is fascinating. Best one they ever did and confirms so much.

    • Seems like GA was so stuck in his ways of having his guys for both coaching and playing. Especially at qb position with Blount and Garrison coming in. I get it if they were both legit power 5 starters but they weren’t/aren’t. Riley or not, it’s going to take a couple of years for JS to be able to start to turn this ship around and put his touch on things. Hearing players talk about the improved energy and coaching is a start. It can’t do anything but help improve on the recruiting trail as well.

    • Yep, looks like you were right. Just remember, if your McMaryionection lasts longer than 4 years, its time to see your doctor!

      Andersen sucks.

    • Best in the history of the school?

      How far above .500 was he overall? How far above .500 was he in conference play? How many conference championships did he win? Did he build off what Barnhart and DE put in place by completing the facilities, as was planned?

      If the answers are not a perfunctory bunch of zeroes plus some mention about a blue practice field, I would probably give up on that person as a valid source. He seems to be mailing it in.

  27. Why on that podcast does Angie say she liked Riley being back? When he left, she treated him like a pariah and said it was time for change/glad he was gone. They talk about Riley more than Smith in the opening minutes. So disturbing.

    • My guess is, she’s glad he’s back for other reasons than a HC. I always thought Riley would make a better assistant than HC, but he’s proving that theory wrong after him basically having a Graduate Assistant coach the TE’s while he collects a paycheck. I could see Riley going up to Wozniak and asking,

      “So what kind of drills do TE’s usually run? Cone drills, ball handling drills, oh, they can learn blocking techniques from Michalczik right? I don’t have to do that portion. Catching drills can be fun, I can still sling the ball around a bit…may need to work on it a bit more, but I can manage that.”

      If you need to ask around how to teach a position group how to prepare and what to do in practice….you shouldn’t be that position groups coach. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a new TE coach next year and Riley become an Offensive Analyst or something.

      • Well this is because the old guard engineered his return. They had to find a position for him that looked minor, so they gave him TEs. Now we see he has no idea how to coach them, and his roll is much larger. He’s there to coddle Smith and the media. That he was seen schmoozing with Ed Ray rather than coaching his position group is also a red flag. What a disaster.

        • In the video, he talks about “getting that call” which stopped him from taking another job and changing things up so he would come back to Corvallis. But in previous interviews, he’s talked about initiating contact with Smith and suggested that coming back to Corvallis was his idea. I’m not saying there’s a conspiracy, but why can’t he get the story straight?

          Either he called Smith asking for a job, or Smith called Riley asking him to join the staff. Which one is it?

          • Liars always mix up their story.

            The truth is that the old guard wanted Riley back, but that wouldn’t be palatable, so they put Riley Jr (Smith) as HC. Remember, Dee knew Riley was coming back to town months before anything was formal and the moment he was fired at NE. There was no national search. As soon as they knew Smith had interest he was their guy, and they could bring Riley back easily under him. I’m not sure it matters who called who other than it highlights that this was all engineered (i.e. not being able to keep stories straight is a sign it didn’t happen organically as they’re trying to make it seem).

          • ‘The call’ is what happened. Not going to be a popular or believable answer on this blog, but it is the truth.

            Then he lied about it in other interviews.

            So now his credibility is shot as well. Not going to be a popular or believable reality at the VFC or Gill, but it is the truth.

  28. Anyone have insight on Conforto and his injury? Is that surgery a career ender? Seems he can walk but not hit anymore.

  29. Beavs win, 4-3.
    nikegon only gets 2 hits, and that’s without using Luke at all; Abel a nice 6.1 inning outing and Mulholland again does his thing facing 5 and eliminating them all (surprisingly, no K’s).

  30. Got to love Riley’s latest tweet.. I’m not usually a grammar police guy, well I never am… But when Riley screws up it just makes too much sense.. Honestly………. There was a time when Riley was good for the program, but that time has passed.. Nothing lasts forever and the school needs to move on.. It’s OK to move on..

  31. check out the video highlights on Olive of the new guard the beavs just landed. The kid reminds me an awful lot of GPII but much more polished offensive game, great leaper, better outside shooter, good passer, good shot blocker….I think he’s quite a get for the Beavs given he’d committed to San Diego State and they let him out of his commitment. Hopefully, the kid can qualify academically. I think he’s going to be quite an impact player for the Beavs if he meets the academic requirements.

    • More comparable to a Russell Westbrook style play. Westbrook’s HS tape was a lot like this.

      Unless Tinks is going to open the floor and condition these guys to run, half his talent will be wasted.

  32. Postgame report from enemy territory…………….

    Nice outing by Kevin Abel. If not for a throwing error and hit batter by Britton in the 1st inning, that’s a solo shot. Once again, free passes kill. Britton was his own worst enemy that inning.

    8 straight over the ducks. Nice. Whiskey’s old man reminded him that Pat Casey won’t be around forever.

    PK Park is much nicer than Goss. No metal bleachers that I saw and the concourse has plenty of space for people unlike Goss. Maybe if Horton hired a better hitting coach they wouldn’t need to move the outfield fences in. However, he forgets the opponents hit too. I foresee some real slugfests there in the future.

  33. Speaking of Barnes. I caught part of an interview he had during the spring game where he spoke about some facility upgrades coming this summer to Reser. I want to say he mentioned new “ribbon banner” electronic signage is going in on the west side. Did I hear that right?

    I cant even imagine where it would go on the west side, plus any west side improvements outside of tearing it down and replacing it just amount to wasting money. Why dress up the part of the stadium that needs to be replaced the most. More band-aid solutions.
    Can somebody tell me if I heard him wrong?

    • I also noticed during the spring game how much concrete is blank where there could be logos or at least some color. Maybe there is usually more color but they haven’t put everything up yet. I look at other stadiums on tv and it seems like the stadium is littered with their school colors.

        • Didn’t realize Oregon also had a 5 star player who will be eligible next year too, which probably led to the transfer. That means 3 of the top ten recruits in 2016 will be playing in the state of Oregon next year. Weird. If Oregon doesn’t score in this next recruiting cycle, they’ll be in a lot of trouble once ionescu leaves.

    • Ayuso went home to Spain. All are due to playing time… and less expected for their remaining careers there. That, and I think one of them wanted to get a degree in a science, which Nikegon doesn’t offer.

      • Leaving the ball hog in while blowing people out so she can get her triple double cuts down on everyone’s minutes and can’t be good for team morale. McQwire is a legit loss. Net gain for da Beavs to not have to face her next year.

          • What? If she stayed at Oregon, she would have been the back up to Ruthy and, therefore, the Beavs would have seen her. She was tough and played Marie Gulich tough in both games last year. She was a physical player that also had a nice soft touch from the outside. Still don’t get your comment though….

          • Nope.

            Incoming Sabally and Boley will eat all the front court minutes available, and she knows this.

            I agree that she’s a decent player. She’s not a 30 minute player who can retain intensity over a span of games. But she’s a quality 10-15 minutes with a couple full games here and there. On a lower level, she can probably extend her minutes.

  34. So the Beavs still have Jake Dukart from LO HS coming in the fall as a true freshman. Are JS Lindgren and potentially Riley’s input too, willing to play him immediately if he’s the best QB coming in, or will they redshirt him no matter what? I wouldn’t play him against OSU in the Horseshoe unless it’s in garbage time and they are going to burn his redshirt year. We will have to see how they handle an incoming QB. GA started a true freshman at QB and look how badly that turned out in getting QB’s to come to Corvallis.

  35. From Lundeberg’s latest piece on Beavs Baseball:
    …OSU hasn’t been able to replicate the brilliance and consistency provided by Jake Thompson (14-1, 1.96), Drew Rasmussen (3-0, 1.00) and Max Engelbrekt (3-0, 0.43)….
    …OSU still has plenty of talent on the mound, but the losses of Thompson, Rasmussen and Engelbrekt have been felt.
    “There’s no doubt about that,” Casey said. “No doubt.”

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/baseball/osu-baseball-no-weak-links-in-beavers-batting-order/article_ffddfbb7-5488-5860-a910-48398e225cae.html

    • I’d wager good money those same players wouldn’t replicate those numbers themselves. Then we would be experiencing their losses in a different way.

      It’s not like we’re racking up the losses now. We had a .500 stretch over a few weeks, and now we’re toiling with 7 losses.

  36. Today, from the office of stupidity at Oregon State Athletics, Hawaii head coach is pissed off because we mailed recruitimg info and spring game invites to some of his current players(which is a violation in and of itself)
    But how did Coach Rolovich even know we mailed his players? Well, funny thing…..we sent the mail directly to the University of Hawaii.
    Ffs….

    So now coach Rolovich is going all public tattle tale and blasting us on twitter, while alao tagging the NCAA and….Lavar Ball?

    https://twitter.com/NickRolovich/status/992340819817320448?s=19

    • Um… tattle tale?

      That has to be the stupidest recruiting violation I’ve ever seen.

      He’s not tattling. He’s recruiting. And he’s apparently been given an edge by some people who probably need to be fired, heavily sanctioned at the least.

      Meanwhile, we’ve got some coaches who are excited to find some future beavers.

    • This recruiting tactic is pretty dumb. We have coaches from Hawaii….Maybe they are trying to get Hawaii investigated with us getting this minor recruiting violation? There is no excuse for trying to talk former players into transferring to your program…what does that tell your current players? How does this instill trust in the players and team you’re currently trying to coach?! Whoever sent these, needs to be sanctioned or removed from the mailing department.

      • Something’s fucky about this. No one is that stupid, it has to be a glitch. Like forgetting to delete some players from a mailing list then sending out a mass mailer.

        • That glitch which you mention would be extreme stupidity and/or laziness as well.

          Every football program has little glitches here and there that constitute minor offenses every year. A coach will call a PSA twice because he didn’t cross him off a list the first time. Someone who shouldn’t have got a milkshake when their older brother was on a visit. Etc. You’re going to find probably 5-10 minor blunders like that within any program. They’re self-reported and given minor sanctions.

          This is a really big no-no.

          But it’s also an indication of efficiency.

        • I’d be inclined to agree with you but there’s just one little tidbit of information that bothers me……

          If what you said were the case, how in the fuck do they get mailed DIRECTLY to the University of Hawaii athletic department? Once those players have committed and signed, shouldn’t they be removed from the database?

          This whole thing just reeks of low level incompetence. But it is Oregon State and what I have come to expect.

  37. With all of the NCAA regulations regarding recruiting do’s and don’ts, you’d think we would have a QA assistant or at least an intern designated to catch these violations? I mean if we don’t have some sort of quality control, this speaks volumes to the level of incompetence within this athletic department.

    I didn’t believe that this department was thatincompetent but this has definitely changed my mind.

    FFS is right. Barnes has to go and everyone replaced within the department.

    • GA quit.

      He gone.

      You’re attacking Barnes because he sucks at major revenue sports coaching hires.

      I agree with you on that.

  38. Sadly, some lower level employee is going to lose their job over this.
    Even more sad, the firing won’t fix anything.

  39. My understanding of what may have happened is Kefense Hynson and Legi Suiaunoa, had a list of players on their recruiting list in an excel spreadsheet or word file with contact information. With this list of players to recruit, had been recruited, and players committed, they probably sent one to everyone on that list to their current addresses, or affiliated adresses.

    • That’s nice.

      So I guess the only thing we need to wait to see is if we self-reported before now.

      I mean… we’ve only had 1.5 months to do so.

    • Two ways to look at that scenario…

      The “Oh shit!” way: There are more kids from other schools who got these, making it that much worse.

      The “That’s sad,” way: Those are the only kids they recruited who made an NCAA roster on any level.

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