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One-derful!
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/07/08/the-red-sox-may-red-hot-but-baseball-striking-out-every-way/6gq0GyH9X01dtuJQZgblAM/story.html
OT: Football odds-n-ends
I see smilin’ mike is no longer listed as a member of the coaching staff on the school site.
An indication that JS keeps up with AngryBeavs?
And, Marcus McMaryion talks about his experience at OSU, his career and his faith:
https://www.athletesforgod.com/marcus-mcmaryion/page-1
Buh-bye to one quitter… so let’s celebrate another and his imaginary friend.
Oh… holy hell!
Then I make the mistake of reading it.
Sure… MM is Job.
Why not?
I wish I could think highly of MM, but he’s just a quitter. I’m really surprised he didn’t just forego his final year of eligibility for the draft, like Fresno fans postulated.
Then again, I saw him play.
So I really don’t wonder. And I feel I have to include this next sentence for those who are just so blind to everything that is college football. I never did wonder.
I did lose a lot of respect for Ryan Nall in the process.
At least MM had the huevos to leave the team once he quit.
Wow!
Milton, he is not.
I don’t blame McMaryion one single bit for leaving Anderpants’ horrible favoritism and mismanagement. Good for him. Was McM supposed to just ride the pine behind Luton, Garretson, and every other QB Anderpants brought in and favored that wasn’t as good as he was?
Only if he wanted to present himself as someone who knew that he was committing to a team and giving his word when showing up for fall camp.
His quitting threw the QB situation into disarray… as was obvious. A moral man would have removed himself before the summer. A petulant quitter quits when the going is (sniffles) moderately almost difficult… kinda.
His quitting also threw the team into disarray given how a certain roommate scuttled the entire team for whatever bullshit reason that person had. But I suspect MM knew this would happen, and his quitting was more complicated than just him quitting when the going got tough. I tend to think he knew his roommate would act like a shit-quitter too, thus penalizing all his formr teammates.
His social commentaries subsequent to his quitting support my hypothesis. He wanted to punish one person, but he ended up absolutely shitting on people who were ostensibly teammates.
Thanks, God. Your fatist cult makes MM feel good for quitting when he made a commitment to people he called team.
Yay!
Loyalty is a 2 way street though. MM was owed an honest chance and he didn’t get that. OSU and coach Andersen was not loyal to him.
Who says he didn’t get a fair chance?
You? Him? Some of his teammates? His imaginary friend?
People win and lose starting jobs. It’s a part of sports and life.
Nut up, and take responsibility for what you can control. One of those instances is committing to a team then running away when your entitlement is not granted. That had nothing to do with any sky-friend who inconsistently bestows free will upon humans, if we’re to believe the word of said sky-deity.
Jack, your definition of quitting is skewed. MM had 5 years to play 4. OS and every other school has the ability to pull scholarship on players without reason. So, why is your notion that loyalty is the only factor that a player should consider?
I agree that loyalty is an important quality in a good person. But often there are a myriad of variables that go into a decision like this and loyalty just can’t be the override for all other decision factors.
I actually notice a major bias from you that anyone who mentions God gets your full ire. Maybe its not MM you are mad about but rather God? I know… you couldn’t possibly be mad at something you don’t believe exists. But, every time God comes up anywhere you protest so vehemently that it doesn’t align with someone that believes it is a fairy tale. Why should you care that someone believes in an “imaginary friend”?
Who the hell has said anything about loyalty.
And who said he couldn’t transfer?
I’m saying he had a mature decision to make at the end of the previous spring ball. Either he remains and works with teammates over the summer and starts fall ball as a member of a team, knowing full well all contingencies that come with that decision, or he chooses to graduate and leave, seeking his fortunes elsewhere.
Both of those decisions would be rational and mature.
Choosing the first then reneging on that commitment is neither rational nor mature. If you choose to pretend to be a leader or a part of a team, the mature thing to do is to see it through. I don’t care one bit about loyalty. I care about someone being glorified for being a quitter. And I’m completely sick of everyone who wants to justify quitting in this way because of entitlement issues.
And no, I don’t go off every time someone talks about their religion. I do go off when they make religiosity into some fairy tale themselves. Choosing to exalt a quitter and pass it off as something other than free will is bad enough. Blaming an imaginary friend for personal choices will get my ire.
But it’s certainly not my full ire. I didn’t even go half ire on this one. Hell, I didn’t even quote relevant bible verses which directly contradict MM’s abrogation of personal responsibility.
I don’t watch info-mercials like the 700 Club, because that pseudo-Christian confidence game really pisses me off. Anything resembling it will always get my ire. Thoughtful expressions are usually left alone or questioned in like manner. I can reel off a thousand words on the Bible and Christendom without blinking. I can’t say I can do the same in terms of depth and perspective for Judaism or Islam. It’s so much easier for me to see the disingenous true believers within Christianity, having been programmed in it and studying it so deeply. I know the words and histories of the others as deeply, but knowing offshoots is largely an academic thing, much like studying the common “prophecies” of the Nazarene sect.
If you love God, fine. That’s a you thing. Jesus said there’s one way to pray, that it’s personal, and that one should keep it to themself. He even went so far as to explain why he said these things. God is not some anthropomorphic sky-deity, according to the Judeo-Christian texts. God is all. Reducing God to these excuses for not taking responsibility in one’s life is an insult to God.
Would you rather I go off on that rant? I can do it with the verve of a Franciscan.
So that someone doesn’t get all riled up with me suggesting some kind of pantheism, the last two paragraphs should be an obvious reference to the Laudes Creaturarum.
And I’m not laying blame.
I’m just calling it how it is. MM quit.
You all are the ones wanting to keep bringing him up. So I’ll keep responding to you all.
I don’t blame anyone who leaves OSU. I don’t know what I would blame on them. I see you all try to blame them for not winning as many games as you think we would have won otherwise.
Your blame game is noted and dismissed.
What do you mean by blame?
Can’t get enough of yourself, eh? Keep trying
What is it you think I’m trying?
Am I trying to say something that isn’t true?
You seem to be implying quitting is not quitting. One would say you are trying to redefine and contort language so that the narrative that you want to believe holds more sway in your head.
I’m not being dishonest with you or myself.
So what am I trying?
from what I remember reading was that MM believed he was going to be the starter going into Fall practice. When that didn’t happen, he transferred which turned out to be the correct decision for him. His so-called “quitting” led to him becoming a starter at Fresno State and being the most efficient QB in the conference. The kid proved himself on several occasions in 2016, led the Beavs to a great C-War win (3rd down conversion ran for 33 yards to sustain a drive) and without him that season, I doubt the Beavs win more that 1 game. Plus, the fact he gets to play ball where he was from. That’s not quitting….that’s just good, sound decision-making.
Nobody thinks he quit except Jack.
MM made a great decision.
If your measure of efficiency is winning percentage, you have an argument. But he was really about fourth or fifth in QB Efficiency in his conference. Your conclusion that he was entitled is noted. And I agree. His transfer was the best thing for him. I just wish he wouldn’t have done it with so much disrespect for the school and his teammates.
Eternally thankful for the CW win and his performance. He didn’t “prove himself” except for that win and the first half of UA… a highly depleted and demoralized UA that would have lost to last year’s Beavs. At the same time, last season isn’t a reason for such blatant entitlement, as you suggest it must be.
The two are not exclusive. Neither is the fact the decision-making was, at best, impetuous immaturity based on entitlement issues.
Again, not exclusive. And it’s not up to me to think he quit. He just quit.
I can guarantee you had he been awarded the starting QB role, he would have never transferred. He was the only QB on the roster that earned the right to start. Luton didn’t deserve the starting job. Nothing he did on the field showed he deserved it. Same with DG or Blount. MM gave the beavers the best option to win with his arm, his legs and his decision making not to mention his 6-7 career starts. None of the other QBs came close to MM in any of those areas. And he led the conference in his first year in passing yards, completion percentage and got them to a 8-2 record as starting QB. Mind you that he accomplished all of that transferring to FSU just two weeks prior to the season starting. If anyone is a quitter, it was GA. MM hung in there for as long as he could and never got a fair shake from GA. Ultimately, that led to OSU 1-11 caused by an inept HC and his staff. MM is now poised to have another great year at Fresno State because GA was too stupid to not recognize his talent at OSU.
Straight up entitlement. The irony of this excuse for immaturity is that I can’t defend him (as I would have) deserving the job anymore. He threw away any thoughts that he was a leader of the team at OSU, a respectful teammate at OSU, or a player who was hungry enough to take the starting role, not be gifted it because he deserved his wittle entitlement.
You need to stop with the bullshit. It really stinks. Nobody deserves anything in sports. People earn their roles. I understand there are dramas and politics and other bullshits involved. But nobody “deserves” a goddamn thing. If that’s the depth of his entitlement at the time, then he certainly didn’t deserve that job. He didn’t come back to fall camp measurably better than spring ball, where he showed up not as sharp as the preceding season. My thought was that he might be a gamer, and he just gets the yips in practices. But don’t pretend he was showing up all-world and deserving anything because of it, because he wasn’t.
Funny… I didn’t see MM on our sideline. How could he start when he’s not even there?
I believe DG had the same win% against arguably tougher competition… at the time. So you can flick that bullshit off your shoe too.
You keep lying about his stats as if they will magically become true if you repeat the lies enough. Or are you just stupid enough not to even look at the stats before you make them up? Taking the Fresno job isn’t that impressive. Many games where he was just horrible were won by that team because of their level of competition. He was good at times. He was not good at times. It is what it is. But what it isn’t is anything remotely resembling the lies you keep telling.
GA is a quitter. He gone too. But that doesn’t make MM not a quitter. Your logic does not compute here.
The rest just looks like a recap of how you think entitlement makes someone deserving of something. GA was obviously not an offensive genius. Tedford might get a little credit, if you can get off the manure pile and compare apples to apples.
My discussion on you and God is simply an observation and I have no desire to argue on that.
The “quitter” argument you’re making doesn’t make sense. You are saying that the timing of when MM left the team is the difference between him being a “quitter”. The reality is he felt that the process for how the job he was competing for was not based on a fair competition. He was given a chance to compete for another opportunity and he took it. I don’t blame him at all. Why should he stay in a situation that wasn’t equitable?
You’re not going to argue with me on that. Your observation is simply insufficient.
That’s because it is. If he says he’s going to be somewhere and do something, then doesn’t follow through with that commitment, he is a quitter. Do you make promises to others to be somewhere and/or to do something, then get upset at them when you fail to follow through with your commitments? Once you say, “Yes,” to these commitments, your word is your bond.
Yes… we call this being entitled. Sports is often populated with meatheads. I personally thought it was a poor decision. But MM didn’t even give me a chance to scree my rants. He just tucked tail and ran away, like every true leader does when they face tepid resistance.
I don’t understand the need for you all to conflate this discussion with blame. And, again, sports can be inequitable. Pierce didn’t quit after Nall half-assed his way through the early season. He stuck with his commitment, and he worked to make himself better. He earned his equity by making himself and his teammates better. He didn’t have much to show for it because his OC was just a moron. But he stuck it out and did what people who commit to a team do.
The problem with your equity argument is that MM didn’t do anything in spring or fall ball to differentiate himself. But, like I said, I was willing to rant in his defense because he was at least a gamer. When he decided to quit instead, there was only one thing that could be said.
“Wow. As bad a coach as McGiven is, he was dead on with his assessment of MM as a potential leader.”
It’s a neat deal that he found a fresh start somewhere else. But I thought you all were being mean to him for suggesting his entitlement issues were why he left. I so wanted his departure to be for a mature reason instead. And that somewhere else was not OSU, where he no longer has any right to be a part of that team. I really hope he didn’t communicate with his former teammates about his entitlement issues, actually working to scuttle the team’s season. That would be antithetical to sport, to team, to civility… to so many things that are good in this world. Once he was out of sight, he should have been out of mind for anything having to do with OSU (unless we play against him). And he was out of sight because of the decision and action of one person only–himself.
You should also consider that he might not have made the decision simply because of some impetuous immaturity. If he showed up to fall ball thinking he always had an out, then it could have been a malignant immaturity.
When someone tries to compete with one foot out the door, it may not be apparent that’s the case. But it will manifest in ways that are detrimental to that person’s performance. I would rather he was impetuous. If he went in with a foot out the door, then McGiven made the right decision, regardless of what anyone felt.
I have no words to express my sincere sadness when reading this.
LOL your’e all over the place. Bashing quitters but hating Kobe who never quit on even a workout in 20 years. MM had every right to bounce. If your’re not valued when your talent is superior you have to go find a place that values you. That loyalty bull shit will haunt you for the rest of your life on what could have been. Thankfully for Marcus he left and excelled while GA and crew were exposed. The dude was vindicated.
MM did have every right to bounce. But he also has every right to be called a quitter, because he quit after committing to his football team in the fall. If he leaves in the spring, this is a completely different conversation. He gets to walk away having made a mature decision which respects his team. He doesn’t get to say that now.
And why would you limit what you think of Kobe Bryant to just MM’s disposition? Do you not think humans are more complex than only one trait?
But I will point out that he did quit on what you explicitly say he did not. He missed all sorts of practices and team commitments because (at best) he quit on his marriage once. If not for the woman with whom he quit refusing to cooperate with authorities after somehow running into a large pile of cash, he would have quit on being a free man.
But you probably think he was vindicated when his wife dropped her divorce request… after also being bought off.
I love the smell of vindication in the morning.
Totally agree.MM will probably have a monster season and be a top 15 QB in the country.
Hmmm… maybe we should go get a QB who can shine on the MWC level.
Oh… what’s that?
We already did?
Yeah… I forgot that too.
But if you insist on being a fanboy, you can carry out his future career… in San Antonio.
Wouldn’t that be a neat deal?
spouting again…don’t get any on you
Any what?
Truth?
Um… no.
Disney and their ESPN co-owners, Hearst Industries, are possibly the two most extremely right wing entities in the history of the United States media. Their early years would make today’s Fox News look like liberal trash (which, incidentally, it is… albeit, given real definitions).
What sports did you play past 5th grade jax? Deadlifting doesn’t count.
Mr Deadlifto!
Why do you ask on a follow-up to a rant against some of the most racist entities of the early 20th century?
I’m old enough that I lived in an age when we didn’t really even start playing sports until the 5th grade. Before that, we had only Little League and YMCA sports. Honestly, we played more pick-up games than anything organized. So I don’t really understand your question, since most of anyone’s organized athletic participation back then came after the fifth grade and was almost exclusively school-sponsored. American Legion ball is the only sport I played outside of school after that point (not including ISSC or city leagues).
Wow, cool
You’re the dipshit who asked the dipshit question.
Better than some old ass bitch who thinks he’s tough by calling college ATHLETES quitters. You never played competitive sports in your life, and should refrain from commenting on environments you have no experience in participating in. You are a pathetic.
heh heh…
You’ve lost it.
Sorry. I only thought you were a dipshit asking a dipshit question. I didn’t know I would break you.
And it’s not tough calling someone who quit a quitter. It’s simply a correct observation.
Are you trying to imply some feelings are to be felt with this observation? I don’t see anything in the definition of the word that remotely refers to feelings, let alone the ones so weirdly knotting up your duodenum.
FYI… in case anyone is confused by the company who tried to teach us that Pocohontas married someone other than John Roarke… which would have been completely in synch with how American Indians’ cultures intermarried with each other and with outsiders.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jan/16/abigail-disney-meryl-streep-racism-sexism
A product of his time? It’s fair for his relative to think that. But he was no pseudo-Nazi. Dr. Seuss was a product of his time–someone who felt so disgusted by his own conflation of Americans and Japanese during the internment episodes that he wrote and dedicated future works as an explicit apology for such stupidity.
Disney doubled down.
Hearst can’t carry even Disney’s water on this. He was just an evil man. To bring it around to a relevant discussion, one of the topics on which Hearst was simply wrong involved his underling, Harry Anslinger.
Just say no.
Speaking of the Reagans, does anyone know the other group responsible for the weird gun-control laws enacted in California that are the basis for the laws today?
Bonus points for anyone who gets it right.
*Rolfe
Oh, come on.
It’s the NRA and Reagan who pushed and passed the Mulford Act in California to stop open carry, setting up decades of precedents nationwide which just fuck with today’s neurotic NRA.
But why did they do this?
Oh yeah… because the sheriff, he’s a near.
I have to admit, I did not know John Schnatter’s first or last name before today. I just knew he made some crappy food. But I probably could have guessed his first name, if it was really important.
Angry, you might want to get in touch with this guy… http://www.truexsportsreport.com/alan-truex-heimlich-may-be-getting-a-bum-rap-as-a-child-molester/
While I agree with what he wrote, he got at least two key things wrong in his article: 1) Luke didn’t fail to register as sex offender in Oregon. 2) he was not convicted of the offense.
We are the Champions!!!!
“And we’ll keep on fighting…. till the end.”
Everything from here down is strong stuff.
http://justiceforluke.com/vigilante-journalism/
I want an FAQ page to answer some of the standard fallacies seen in social and professional commentaries. Instead of frequently asked questions, it could be frequently wrong statements. Example:
FWS: He plead guilty and was convicted of a felony.
A: Incorrect. He agreed to juvenile adjudication of having committed an offense. That offense was not a felony, and he was never convicted of anything. (link to relevant sections)
^^^^^^is a GREAT idea.
another FWS (courtesy of Dennis Dodds): No one confesses to a crime they didn’t commit. A: incorrect. It happens all the time and justice involved youth are particularly vulnerable in this regard.
Those who forget the past are destined to relive it…
https://news.vice.com/article/why-are-there-up-to-120000-innocent-people-in-us-prisons
… over and over and over…
https://www.innocenceproject.org/when-the-innocent-plead-guilty/
… and, just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in!
https://www.propublica.org/article/innocent-but-still-guilty
Although Jack didn’t appreciate it when first posted here, this presentation is worth viewing. A current study presented well, especially pertinent to the case at hand.
https://www.ted.com/talks/lindsay_malloy_why_teens_confess_to_crimes_they_didn_t_commit?utm_source=newsletter_daily&utm_campaign=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_content=button__2018-07-03
I appreciate the content.
I’m just baffled that it’s taken this long for people to get over what seems like a decades long DUH! moment. I’ve railed against a lot of this before, maybe even here. But nobody wants to hear it until they start coming after them or someone with whom they have empathy or sympathy.
http://www.martyduren.com/2012/04/19/our-comfortable-injustice-part-2-incarceration-for-profit/
The signs have been obvious for a long long time. Why does anyone resist these realities in the first place?
I guess that’s the question I would like to have answered most. Why do people have to spend innumerable hours of banging their righteous heads against the wall simply to have the public shrug at them, in the best of responses? Most often, the willfully ignorant masses are swayed by well-organized and well-funded propaganda machines to be scared into being willfully stupid.
Point taken.
Thanks for the link.
So i apologize if it seemed I tried to thwart what I have always thought to be truth. My reaction was more emotionally based on all the work millions of watchdogs have produced over decades being usurped by a Johnny-come-lately summation in one sector.
The content stands on its own, and if that’s what it takes to introduce people to these realities, I’m 100% for it.
Did anybody else notice the guy in the front row lifting up his shirt during the missed foul ball…? Not sure if he is Arkansas fan preparing for pending win, or if it be distraction technique, but whatever the hell he is doing didn’t help Arkansas. He will be forever recorded in the “low-light” reel!!! LOL
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/23931064/college-world-series-oregon-state-ninth-inning-magic-evens-cws
So great to re-watch those NC highlights….
I still don’t know what the hell their second baseman was thinking, but I will forever be grateful for his overzealous behavior. Go Beavs!
Jack put it best when describing that guy’s desire for the glory.
Could have been an honest overrun, but sure looked like he wanted that glory.
That’s exactly what it was. Glory hog.
Yup, didja see the look on the 1b face as he was elbowed out of the way by Shaddy?
“A Shaddy play.” A new term; shoddy plus greedy….
He was just a bit too arrogant earlier in the game too….karma did not wait long. He is going to regret that for YEARS…
Not that you’re the first to do this, but karma is an inter-life, not intra-life, experience.
That’s why John qualified it in his song as instant.
Can’t beleive no one is commenting on Lonnie Shelton’s passing and B.Browner’ charge’s!! Shelton was an all time fav, Browner a skum–just ask who played with Him.
I watched Shelton play at OSU. Those were some great days for OSU basketball. Im sorry to hear of his passing.
I played with Shelton in a pick up game at the gym once. He was a monster on the court but seemed like a nice guy.
Saw on Twitter that Nick had a hamstring issue during the CWS. White Sox are benching him until it’s better.
Edit: he might be back later this week: https://twitter.com/JRFegan/status/1016792771036884992?s=19
It’s quiet…..
Too quiet…..
I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
OT: Better ingredients….
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/two-louisville-players-want-name-on-papa-johns-cardinal-stadium-to-change/
This may placate them.
https://www.theonion.com/papa-john-s-removes-n-word-from-menus-1827552298
It’s probably a good thing there was no twitter when Adolph Rupp roamed the earth.
I’m a little surprised, given the context that he used the word, that UL hoopsters aren’t tweeting, “Hey! We need to rename our arena also!”
But I think people can compartmentalize the person and the corporate sponsor. It’s a little tricky with the football stadium being named after the company but the contract being with him. But I think it will be forgotten over time as long as the name remains corporate. But there are some things that are named directly for him. The town he grew up in (that apparently had people in trucks dragging other people to their deaths) sent his money back and ripped his name off their fieldhouse… in a hurry. But what does UL do about this?
https://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/news/2015/03/10/schnatter-free-enterprise-center-created-to-find.html
Regardless, we’re talking about a school that let Pitino run wild, re-hired a poop of a man for football… and now this.
At some point, you just have to think that people and institutions make their own bad luck.
I think the funniest part of the story is that the PR firm hired to do all this white-washing for his reputation and future discourses (but apparently couldn’t get past a conference call with him) is called Laundry Services.
How cynical do you have to be to name your PR firm that?
I feel like the context with how he used the word is an important missing element to the story…
https://twitter.com/XLNB/status/1017267345675304960
I don’t know, call me pc, because of our history, that language is reserved for people that it belongs to. If he wanted to borrow Ocho Cinco’s ‘Child, please’ maybe. But I don’t think Johnny is black, so, uh, no, no ‘N—-‘ is appropriate.
It’s a twitter joke. that wasn’t really the context.
Derp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2018/07/11/papa-johns-founder-john-schnatter-allegedly-used-n-word-on-conference-call/#520538564cfc
The real context just doesn’t work in his favor. He’s just so self-unaware.
If I’m understanding correctly, it sounds like Papa John was peeved because his advisors/partners thought it was a sound idea (rightly so) to stay off of commercials. It’s interesting that this numbnut was so passionate about having his mug on TV because he’s one of the more awkward spokespersons out there. His commercials were cringe-worthy even before the controversy. Shitty pizza, no self-awareness, tone deaf…….good riddance.
I don’t know why he’s digging deeper now. By simply resigning, he made millions when his stock holdings shot up in value.
And the hole keeps getting deeper, check out this latest headline in the Papa John saga
https://nypost.com/2018/07/13/papa-john-says-he-was-pressured-to-use-n-word-during-conference-call/
Now he was pressured, WTF????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBWTfrXNMDY
That Angry, sure knows how to pick ’em!
This from WBB twitter:
Congrats to @mary_gulitsch on being nominated for @NCAA Woman of the Year!
#Trendsetter
And you thought you had issues with PayPal.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44783779
Are others on here still getting the email push notifications when other AB users make a new comment?
I stopped receiving them a few weeks ago, but not sure why. I miss that feature
There should be something at the bottom that reads:
Notify me of follow-up comments by email.
Notify me of new posts by email.
Do you see those check boxes?
Yeah, I always check the “Notify me of follow-up comments by email” one. The other I never have needed to because I always get the new posts. I’ll try both this time to see if it changes things.
Test.
Fail…
Try now.
Test
Email is working again. Thanks Angry
Good to see Dylan Wynn is still up to the late hit/cheap shot shenanigans…
https://twitter.com/cjzer0/status/1017980865316556800?s=19
OT: I stopped celebrating the beaver championship last night and I’m catching up: any chance we’d offer/flip a guy like this:
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ethan-Long-117003/RecruitInterests/
The joey yellen committed a few days after him:
https://247sports.com/college/arizona-state/Season/2019-Football/Commits/
Since the MM and quitter talk just seems not to go away, here’s another view:
http://footballscoop.com/news/gary-patterson-believes-new-ncaa-transfer-rule-will-send-message-quitting-okay/
Patterson:
“Every freshman I’ve ever known wants to transfer because it’s harder than anything else he did in high school.”
Sounds about right……….in any program based on high standards and expectations.
Additionally, the authors view seems on the mark:
“In all honesty, seeing how so many (not all) recruits today relish the recruiting attention, I tend to agree with Patterson here. Things get tough for a lot of kids that freshman year, and the new NCAA transfer model certainly gives those kids the easy way out to the immediate gratification of being wanted by another school again…”
If college football wasn’t a pariah sucking income off the backs of these kids under the righteous guise of “amateur student-athlete”, I might care a little more about transfer rules.
Alternate translation:
“I lie to high star recruits and tell them they’ll start as freshmen so they all want to leave when I prove to be full of shit.”
I don’t know about Patterson but slimy pukes like Slick Willie could really see some fallout from this rule.
I’m pretty sure someone who promised everything you say then reneged would be called out by players netwroking, at least privately.
Recruits know who does what.
Original article:
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article214684155.html#navlink=SecList
OT sort of surprised Fehmel didn’t get drafted in the late rounds. I know he doesn’t have top notch stuff, but he can locate his pitches pretty well. Hopefully someone takes a chance on him next season.
IDK, being honest as good as Fehmel has been for us I think if everyone remains healthy he gets passed up and won’t be one of our top 3 starters next year.
In the Majors he would be akin to a pitching machine. Not like “Oh man, that guys a pitching machine!!!!” More like batting practice…
Rooting for him though
Anybody going to the Hops game tonight? Sounds like as many as 9 guys from the 2018 roster will be there with the championship trophy, and possibly be available for signing autographs/pictures.
I’ve been liking these little video clips the BeVs have put out with Smith talking to Brandin Cooks. Helps to show Smith has a vision and is his own guy who doesn’t need to work under the shadow of Mike Riley.
Imagine how bad these videos would be with Riley in place of Smith.
“Well you know…uh…number 7…..we’re missing you here as part of this deal…..you really…..just…. yeah…really good stuff when you were a Beaver here in Corvallis….”
https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1018969150075498496?s=19
Absolutely, I like them too. Cooks is the perfect guy to have the interviews with too, elite in every way and a smart grounded dude. He and 9 seem to have a genuine rapport going.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24123118/los-angeles-rams-sign-receiver-brandin-cooks-five-year-contract-extension
Cooks is so fortunate to have played with and learned from two HOF QBs, their OCs, and now getting to play with a potential up and coming QB with an outstanding RB in Gurley. Rams seem to be putting together a team that can contend for the next 3-5 years. So satisfying to see a hardworking and humble kid get opportunities like this.
Hopefully Cooks gets back to the SB and gets a win. Would be great for OSU if he came back in some capacity in the future.
I’m just happy his head is still attached to his body.
If Luke is signed, expect it to be the Friday before Labor day but I highly highly doubt it.
Some ladies website is not going to get him in pro ball. Probably hurts him more than it helps.
I’ve heard foreign leagues will not sign him either due to their relationships with the MLB.
Has there ever been a list of where the baseball players are playing summer ball? The guys that will be back and the incoming recruits.
So Riley is coming back?
No! No! Stop it beavergopher!
Daily Barometer prints an editorial. Embarrassingly shameful. Lazy, one-sided thinking.
How else do you describe the piece?
http://www.orangemedianetwork.com/daily_barometer/editorial-what-idolizing-luke-heimlich-says-about-the-osu-community/article_b873f3c8-88b8-11e8-9207-a37951c8be73.html
by inference, any Trump voter (and still supporter), elected official not speaking out or comrade loves Russia greater than America.
See how easy we make things black and white?
Editorial is student homework, gets a D in my book.
Who cares about some third-rate tyrant like Putin?
Whomever decides to support Trump supports extreme weakness, pseudo-manliness and irrationality. Punk bitch isn’t even a Beta at this point. I can’t say I was surprised at his subservient cowering or his bashing the US and US law enforcement… all to sate his own ego.
Nothing he has done this past week is out of character for him. So stop pretending the pseudo-man licking the little Russian’s shoes is something surprising.
And what’s the thing about him having to touch tyrants’ balls/orbs/whatever?
Punk bitch? Wow, are you a tough guy all of a sudden?
I’m not sure what you mean by tough. He just is what he is.
He happens to have been born with a gold spoon up his ass. But that just makes him able to hire a good accountant and a swarm of lawyers so he can chisel enough to pretend to keep his head above water. If there was ever anyone in the history of building that represented the business method of robbing Peter to pay Paul, it’s that moron.
But you know what they say.
You can’t cheat an honest man; never give a sucker an even break, or smarten up a chump.
Ooh!
I was looking at what I wrote, and I should clarify something. It’s obvious… well… I should think it’s obvious. I meant to say isn’t instead of is.
So… I guess it really depends on what the definition of isn’t is.
Did coward say anything new today?
Or is he still the punk bitch who spat on every vet and dead service member by cowering in front of the little Russian tyrant?
So. Fucking. Weak.
bonespurs that heal themselves=punk bitch
And wow.
I can’t even give a D on this one. There’s more red ink on it than there is content. The factual errors start early and just snowball from there.
Just a taste of how bad it is. Put everything Luke aside, and see how this “editorial” treats official statements, one which is actually linked.
This piece takes this:
… and turns it into this:
Then they take this:
https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/oregon-state-beavers/president-ed-rays-message-osu-community-regarding-luke-heimlich
… and turn it into this:
Then they think I’m going to be swayed by their version of ethicism?
Sure.
“Journalism” today is not about reporting facts. It’s about controlling narratives. The Barometer is no exception.
Journalism is about facts and fact-checking. If it’s not sourced, it has little meaning. And I don’t mean that, “So-and-so reported earlier today,” crap that most sites think is sourcing. Journalists have to present the numbers, or get out of my face.
And facts don’t need to be interpreted by a panel, unless it takes a panel to concentrate on dispersing all of the facts, not just the “pertinent” ones. It’s not about discussing them. It’s about presenting them then efficiently moving on to the next batch of facts.
What you’re talking about is just soap-opera-like dramas… with a word from their sponsors.
4!
24?
No, no, no… 4!
Well, the piece at hand is presented as an editorial, still journalistic principles (facts, fact checking, sourcing) ought to be observed.
Injecting personal opinion is part of what I understand editorials are. HOWEVER, both sides of an issue ought to be presented. It’s up to writer to rebut the “facts” which go counter to the writers opinion.
The unnamed writer at the Baro avoided any need to rebut inconvenient facts by simply ignoring them. I notice comments to the editorial appear to have been cut off…..at 6. No one has linked the site presented here, nor the previous work of Martin Meyer or Kerry Eggers.
Indeed, and anyone who thinks the bias is magically confined to the editorial page is naive.
The point is that there are no sides until everyone can get the facts right.
Everything else is just noise.
Barometer rips Heimlich and OSU Baseball… in a JULY editorial.
Baseball season over, Heimlich moved on, no students on campus, not directly putting their names on the work.
SO.
MUCH.
BRAVERY.
Saw a story on BTD that speculates Xavier Crawford is transferring to Central Michigan(evidence is pretty convincing)
Chippewa tat on his butt cheek?
He’s officially on the CMU roster now.
http://www.cmuchippewas.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/xavier_crawford_1070720.html
That would be convincing evidence.
If you haven’t, watch the show the staircase on Netflix. Episode 11 goes over why/how people plead guilty even if they don’t believe they are guilty. It’s gices various reasons why people do it. I think this example could teach a lot of people to open their eyes and understand the justice system better.
Is it the documentary about a murder trial in Durham, NC?
Pretty interesting show, watched it several years ago. So many twists and turns.
Same assistant DA in that case was the DA who botched the Duke Lacrosse case several years later.
You are correct.
Baseball news….
Beavs flip a TCU commit, RHP Will Frisch, from the beautiful river town of Stillwater, MN.
He is a HS teammate with fellow Beav commit LHP Drew Gilbert. Both are 2019.