Merry Christmas, guys. Thanks for another good year at AB. Ten year anniversary next year. Here’s to another ten. Have a good one. Might be MIA for the next week for the Holidays. Let’s hear your New Year’s Resolutions and any other stories you’d like to share. Any sports related topic is fine, too. Have at it.. – The AB team.
Merry Christmas all!
Merry Christmas all you angry beavs and also to the mildly agitated ones! Fitness goals for this year are to do a 100 mile bike ride and get some cyclocross racing in the fall. Let’s hear yours.
Nice. I need to lose 10lbs (I was at ideal weight but gained them over the holidays). Another goal is to start playing live shows again and summit a CO peak.
Brisk walks, stretching, and light weights (hey, I’m an old guy) are taking care of the fitness and weight — now if I could just get my golf handicap down…I’ll set a goal of a four stroke reduction for 2019.
Get some 20-25 mile hikes in this summer. Mostly for deer and elk scouting. But try to get my 7 year olds involved also. They wont make it but whatever they can do.
Also get some shit done around my house.
Hit 1000 lbs combined big 3 lift, Bench, Deadlift, & Squat. At 895 now. Continue to do various cardio workouts and strength training a minimum of 5 days a week.
^^^ Big boy pants
https://youtu.be/CRfy1yorkec.
Hey if you’re looking for inspiration, other than from Chicago, read up on David Googins. He’s the SEAL that runs ultras now. I’ve heard him on Joe Rogan’s Podcast a couple times and am reading his book now. He’ll give you the inspiration to crush those goals you set.
Appreciate the recommendation. Looks like I have another book to read :-)
https://player.fm/series/the-jim-rome-podcast/ep-25-david-goggins-2192018
Isn’t Goggins from Chicago?
He was a ricky and went through pre-BUDS in Chicago too.
Agreed with his plant based diet plan with scheduled proteins. Very sensible stuff.
Disagree with him that running and swimming aren’t fun.
My resolution is to continue to drink, smoke cigars and spend too much time worrying about the state of OSU football and MBB!
There is a Spanish golfer on the senior tour who would get along with you very well, I suspect.
Miguel Angel Hemanis (or something like that)
My 2019 goal is to get rid of all the 1995 Beaver memorabilia stored in my garage to make room for the other car. I especially need to unload the bronze beaver statue, it lurks in the corner and scares the grandchildren so much they won’t go in there. I can’t believe I thought that thing was motivational. JB
Well, you’re motivated to get rid of it so there you go.
I’m going to get up the hill and get my dad’s hotrod buttoned up. It’s super close and it’s been sitting for a few years because of life.
As soon as his is back on the road I’m gonna get to work on my own stuff and get a fast car back on the road. I’ve got a Buick Grand National and a ’65 Plymouth that need to get back out during the summer.
OT – article on Chris Peterse’s recruiting approach, known for emphasizing “our kind of guy,” but what I like about it is the history of his recruiting classes “outperforming rankings.” Hoping Smith learned enough from him to accurately identify players similarly.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/really-impressive-thing-about-chris-petersens-rising-recruiting-classes-at-uw-he-does-it-with-so-few-actual-offers-to-athletes/
From the link:
New Years goal… try not to be so emotionally invested in Beaver sports. Them losing a game shouldn’t make me grumpy for hours, or days after.
I haven’t watched a single second of post season football and I probably won’t, but apparently the Cal/TCU game was a magnificent shit show. Cheez-it bowl for fucks sake.
https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2018/12/27/18157269/cal-tcu-cheez-it-bowl-2018
I haen’t either. This is the least interested I’ve been interested in college football bowl games in a LONG time….Maybe I’ll watch UW/Ohio State but I doubt it…..
Same, haven’t watched a single bowl. College football is in decline and has been for some time. When ESPN et al dictate who gets to play where then it demoralizes the fanbases who aren’t in the in crowd. It will be interesting to see if we get back into it if/when the Beavs are respectable again.
Can you blame them? Cheez its are addicting. When they are the pregame, halftime and postgame meal, the players aren’t going to be playing at 100%.
I watched it and found it to be one of the most inept displays of football I’ve ever seen. It showed just how poorly the Pac12 Conference has become. TCU wasn’t much better but at least they were moving the ball offensively and have a NFL-caliber RB but don’t ask me to even attempt to spell his name. I’m hoping the Ducks continue that fine losing bowl tradition of 13-18 too. Now that Soft as Sherbert has declared he’ll be back, Duck fans are already talking playoffs next year. I think Sherbert’s decision is a poor one especially given his rash of injuries and could cost him a whole lots of money. I’d love nothing more that to see MSU’s defense put a licking on him to make him reconsider his poor decision to return. That said, MSU doesn’t have much of an offense so I don’t expect them to win, but the Ducks have shown in recent bowl games they can’t get it done. I’m hoping they lay another big duck egg. I think they do get an upgrade next year in bowl games and that’s the Cheez It Bowl….right up their alley with all of their cheesy uniforms and the rest of their cheesy fan base.
Last year I cut out soda with water all days except Saturdays(was a daily habit to drink Coke) That one small change helped me lose a good 15-20 lbs pretty easily.
This year, I’ll try to cut back on fried food. Getting too old to be eating that crap as often as I do.
Anybody else think the BolBol injury is a little suspicious? Is he really injured? Amd if so. Why no timeline? Out “indefinitely” seems to be all I’ve ever seen. Wonder if they’re worried about playing an ineligible player?
I’m gonna lay low on recruiting news for a little while unless something important comes up. We’ve entered a nice dead zone of OSU sports(other than wbb) so I’ll hibernate a bit till baseball starts up.
Good call on reducing soda. I did that in my 20s and saved hundreds of thousands of (empty) calories since then.
Not sure how you feel about aspartame but if you don’t mind it, Fresca is a great go to when you want a soda. The tall 17 oz Ice sodas are great too, especially when you need a booze mixer.
I didn’t want to substitute sugar for another sweetener, so i went with straight water, or sometimes those carbonated waters like LaCroix, which helped give me my bubbly fix
Beer is a good option when you want a ‘bubbly fix.’
I didn’t give up beer.
You can buy a carbonator and save a lot of $ rather than going with LaCroix.
I’ve gone with straight water myself, but my lady is hooked on that bubbly water. She can’t make the complete switch. She’s now buying Costco bubbly water, which is much cheaper than LaCroix, but I still think making it yourself is the way to go. Control the means of production! *cue Jack*
I’ve thought about getting a soda stream several times over the years, but my wife read some article years ago about ethical issues surrounding that brand, so she never seemed interested. I was just reading Pepsi has purchased sodastream this year(and started making that new “Bubbly” branded drink you see everywhere now) So not sure if Pepsi plans to kill off the Sodastream or make it a bigger brand.
Cost isn’t a huge issue with the canned stuff since we don’t drink a very large volume of the stuff, but the convenience of a DIY soda maker would be nice to have, but i might have to check out that Costco option.
BubblyBeavs
Costco’s brand isn’t as good as the LaCroix, but it’s like 1/4 the price. They also sell soda makers there. Worth looking into. Even if price isn’t an issue, it’s good to send the market the right message that price matters, else things rise as nobody cares.
You could look for a small Brite Tank and carbonate anything your Lil hearts desire. Just pour right off the sample valve, no kegging.
An hour of homework will teach you to set up a CO2 system. Amazon or ebay will have everything you want to make it custom. Don’t go to a homebrew store for tanks. Just go to a welding supply.
Seltzer is good for cleaning. I don’t really like it all that much, but t each their own.
If you need a doofangled seltzer maker that connects to bottles and don’t want to construct a pressure fit connector, you can hack a used soda maker fro second hand stores or pawn shops.
OT- but what kind of fucking voodoo is Cristobal practicing? I don’t get it, he’s a shitty sub-500 coach, yet he lands a historic recruiting class and now every damn NFL caliber senior wants to stay and risk injury playing another year for that numbnut? Something is not adding up.
The numbers add up quite perfectly, ask my accountant
Yep, it sure looks suspicious, I have noticed the last few years duck basketball and football players at a high rate give up going pro (what they have been working towards their whole life) to come back to college. Doesn’t happen any where else at that rate. Especially when its coaching staff struggle’s to develop talent, makes no sense.
Nike cash to the players. It’s just a matter before the entire scam unfolds.
It seems completely plausible and legal for Phil to have a little meeting with key players to tell them they will be well compensated after they leave UO if they stay another year. Why not stick around for more college glory, and possible Heisman, if you know Phil is going to stuff your pockets?
Is there a rule regarding paying a player after they leave?
Wonder if they can draw up a contract now to pay him nothing until 2022 and still have that be legal.
That’s basically how they get around pay for play with the multiple signature shoes they give the players each year. Players are allowed to sell the shoes only after college is over, so it’s basically deferred compensation. What player would turn down an extra $15-20k per year if other teams can’t offer it?
And the NCAA doesnt have rules around the value of the gear given to players, so Nike can steer certain value levels of gear to certain schools.
But I seem to be the only person who gives a shit about how this creates an unfair competitive advantage.
As far as contracts, that is an interesting question. I would assume signing any type of contract would negate ametureism in the NCAAs eyes.
Schools can pay for a players insurance policy though, so Herbert is covered financially by the school if he gets injured. He just can’t guarantee his draft stock won’t drop.
I care. It’s a big reason I’ve lost interest in college sports.
But say there’s no written contract, just a verbal…or say there is a written but it’s sealed with a players attorney so the NCAA never finds out..?
Looks like another draftable O-lineman (Lemieux) agreed to stay, so the Quacks have their entire line returning. As far as I can tell, the only impact player still undecided is Dye. The Beavs can’t get Nall to stay and then he doesn’t even get drafted! I guess there was no secondary money for him?
Under Armor > Nike. FTD Let’s get the big money coming in.
Screw that. I want New Balance
I said that mostly joking, but looked it up and New Balance actually has outfitted a few teams. Wyoming, Central Mich and N.Texas have all tried New Balance jerseys. They actually dont look bad, but I’m far from the target demographic the Beavs need to please.
http://uniformcritics.com/football/college/central-michigan-chippewas/2007-2008-central-michigan-all-white-uniform/
I like that idea given those other teams new balance provided gear for are ones we compete in recruiting players with. Lol
Converse? Chuck Taylors ought to take care of those foot and ankle injuries…
They could play tape on the second half of the ’62 Liberty Bowl to show how they are useful shoes for football.
Watching Syracuse in their bowl game and their QB Dungey is a SR fromLake Oswego. Evidently he is pretty good taking a horrible program to bowl games and a 9-3 record this year. Did we even bother to offer him?
No, we never offered him.
We were recruiting the kid Purdy who is playing for Iowa State tonight but never offered him. He is an example of what’s available after the early signing period. He had very few offers until teams missed out on other guys.
Pretty sure purdy was committed to us but flipped near signing period with coaching change/visit to iowa state. That one hurts.
Rev is right, we visited him down in Arizona and right around then Alabama offered Purdy, so we backed off and didnt bother. Then he got offered by Iowa State and Purdy decided he didnt want to be the 4th stringer at Bama, so he went to Iowa St. Or so the legend goes…
Krol, I can’t remember the name but we did lose a QB commit to univ of Iowa last year. I’ll bet that is who you were thinking of. He had committed to GA and then flipped to Iowa after Smith was hired.
Petras
Good call. That’s why I come here!
Petras flipped to Purdue.
https://hawkeyesports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=11188
Iowa actually
That one hurt, Petras could be real good.
Well shit, who was it that flipped to Purdue?
Hard to keep track of the kids that “were that close”…
Piferi, class of 2019 QB
Probably thinking of Paul Piferi. Had an OSU offer but I’m not sure how serious he was about us.
Cougs don’t blow it and get the pac12 a much needed win.
A lot of calls went their way early.
Hmmm.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2812962-pac-12-reportedly-considering-taking-on-private-equity-investors.amp.html
Any thoughts on this?
My initial thought is this will ruin college football even more.
But it will sure help Larry S. continue his lifestyle! A 10% interest = no oversight on ‘ol Larry. BS!!
The B1G only owns 50% of their own product. The SEC owns none.
Now we’re supposed to be upset that we’re selling 10%?
Oh yeah… I forgot it was some conspiracy for whatever nonsensical bogeyman is out there, keeping a hypocritical and morally bankrupt baldy down.
If football is a business, then this is just business. More concerning is that business details (even contingencies) are being leaked to a dumbass with a microphone. Those individuals (who are definitely not based in unincorporated Washington County, Oregon) ned to be cut out of any future deliberations by replacing the stat.
How?
Is this what reporting has come to? We just get some dink telling us that more money means teams are better or ahead or some ambigously undefined sensibility, and we’re supposed to feel like we’ve been informed of something?
How will each school making five million more per year make their football teams better? Will it allow them to offer more body bag games… making their conference win more games… making them occupy more spots on what is definitely an objective ranking system… making their coaches better than they were last year… but not the talent?
Let’s not forget it’s still the talent’s fault.
How did Pete Carrol and Chip Kelly compete with them? How did they get the talent to compete with them? Didn’t they use money?
They used a fraction of what schools get now.
what I’m asking is: why does more money than other conferences/schools/whatevers matter when you have more than you could have dreamed of just 15 years ago? Where has that money been spent? What do we have to show for it?
Fortunately for us at OSU, that money was spent on infrastructure and student enhancements that will last well into the future.
Some teams spend it on locker room waterfalls shaped in relief of their owner’s profile… visible from their throne… and then want to tell us they’re an institution of higher learning.
It is what “reporting” has come to. They’re unlikely to ask the question you pose: “Where has the money been spent? What is there to show for it?” are not going to come from mass media outlets who don’t write for fans who are (constructively) critical of NCAA sports.
Perspective on college sports has been lost. Its unlikely to return. The game and the competitive context seem to get worse, and a majority of viewers don’t seem to realize it. Or maybe they don’t care.
Jack Wilson is leaving the MBB program. What the F is going on there?
https://twitter.com/JesseSowaGT/status/1079069126650281984?s=19
Maybe someone found Tinkle’s pee pee tape.
Now that tweeter thing about “Eli Glenzel” joining the hoops team makes sense, they don’t have enough players to even scrimmage anymore. As I understand, Glenzel is on the rowing team at OSU and played a little bit of high school basketball.
This is sad. Where’s Tanner Sanders when you need him?
He’s probably tired from all his time on the floor… you know… since we need all our bigs out there without G available.
less patience for predictable mediocrity than us?
Checking scores, Michigan down 41-15…..think Harbaugh calls it quits after this season? Or does he have some great recruits coming into prominent roles next season?
He should put on his big boy khakis and quit like a man
nice on many levels
The only way this could be better is if we contraposed this idea with how TE-with-hand-in-dirt guy thinks football is America’s last stand against pussiness.
Give me a fucking break.
It sounds like his players care less about the game than I do.
Nevada plays some good hoops.
Didnt OSU have a chance to hire their coach at some point? Or am i wrong on that? Sorry, the nevada mbb coach.
Some of us were all over Musselman.
The negs said he was a pro coach who didn’t know OSU and Pac recruiting, or some such bullshit.
The pros said he gave up on the pros because he was sick of iso-favoritism taking over what was once a beautiful game. So he planted himself at a Pac school to specifically (while openly saying he was doing this) to learn the ins and outs of college recruiting.
And he was good at it.
It was like he knew CR’s shelf-life at OSU, and he was targeting us for a perfect marriage of his skills and our tradition, no matter how far removed we are from it.
But no.
Rainbows are a sign… or something.
For the record, I was told salary concerns happened.
But I was a little upset about that story when he took the Nevada job.
I was really looking forward to watching Cam Oliver play.
His salary at Nevada is half of Tinkle’s.
Thus, the upsettedness.
Is anyone watching the Alabama game?
I might tune in 4th Q if it’s close.
The what?
I’ve been watching the PTN almost all day. I saw Georgetown and Marquette earlier.
Liberty just pummeled UCLA today. It was beautiful to watch.
I was focused on it because of recent discussions, but Liberty was nifty and disciplined. And they kissed the glass with everything… except for the one fugly transition dunk by their 5’8″ guy… when UCLA looked like they might start to show up to play.
That Larry Scott dude sure knows how to kill a once great hoops program. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the decisions that institution makes. It’s all about Larry Scott… and a lack of talent.
The only thing that’ll be close in the 4q is how close Alabama is to breaking most points scored.
How did it turn out?
Did they break most points scored… in whatever?
I mean… because it’s exciting stuff… the most points scored… and stuff… it has to be important… important enough to list the record and where Bama stands regarding said record… I think.
Exactly what sport are we talking about?
just checked….13 minutes to go in 2nd, Alabama 28-0….
Looks like Alabama & Clemson (30-3 over ND)…surprise.
So much for the new system getting the best teams in….lol
What were the best outcomes of this season?
The season Jefferson had for OSU, his FOY and All American accolades? I enjoyed that and look forward to he and Pierce’s efforts next season with Gebbia at QB.
FSU’s failure to reach a bowl game in the Fortune Cookie Coach’s first season…ending a 36-year streak?
Or will it simply be the season’s end?
College football really becomes meaningless for everyone except Alabama and Clemson fans.
That’s because the college football season is over, and it all really didn’t mean shit.
Start of Q4: 31-20, Alabama
Who fucking cares?
It’s shit football involving not my team or anyone related to me.
Just to look at the numbers for this matchup, one ACC power versus another ACC-adjacent power makes for… ummmmm… power… or something.
We know Bama will be in it if they go +.500, for whatever bullshit reason Bama deserves to go over everyone else ever… and during that season.
So is it any surprise that teams who have played shit schedules meet and give you a shit game??
If only there was some way to distill
Crabby today. Was your pea soup cold at lunch?
Pea soup was three weeks ago, and I have a microwave. I might make it again next week.
So… no.
And I’ll eat my pea soup for breakfast if I have enough fresh veggies and sprouts to throw into it any given morning. I don’t know why you’re biased toward lunch.
UCLA gets blown out at Pauley by Liberty today. Their 4th straight loss. Liberty coached by beaver beloved Ritchie McKay.
The Pac-12 is a fucking joke again in men’s hoops.
What do the soon to be shit canned Steve Alford and Ritchie McKay have in common?
Both assholes coached at New Mexico?
Correct. McKay was fired after the 2007 season and Steve Alford replaced him.
Alford should have never left UNM. He had it good there. He got greedy.
The whole reason he left Iowa was because he thought football was overshadowing hoops, and he didn’t want to coach at a football school. He had a hoops tradition backing him up at UNM that would always cast shadows on their football program.
I think they still have a football team.
Plus, the Pit is one of the iconic hoops venues in the country.
That being said, it’s UCLA. I guess he felt he needed to prove something… or get his son a free ride at UCLA.
They can blame Larry Scott for whatever?
Watching Charlo v Korobov, and FS1 thinks it’s breaking news that the Jets will fire their coach.
That’s cute.
You’re just like my dads old friend that nobody wants to talk or watch sports with. Just a know-it-all. My hope for 2019 is that the old folks home finally restricts your internet access.
Or just up his dosage
Anything at all would be “upping” a dosage, boy.
That’s cute.
Two things worth mentioning this morning.
First, the Heisman trophy winner this year is going to play baseball for my favorite team the A’s. He’s only 5’9″ and apparently very smart for making that choice.
Second. In the NFL which I rarely watch anymore, there are about 32 teams and yet we have different teams in the Superbowl every year. In college football there are 128 teams or more in FCS and we have the same two teams playing for a Natty three years in a row. Statistically almost impossible in a random pairing. What can be done to even things out?
Scholarship reductions for teams in the top 25.
Top 5 = 10 fewer scholarships
Top 10 = 5 fewer scholarships
The rest = 3 fewer scholarships
Should work well and spread the talent around if ‘Bama et al only have 75 to give. I wrote a post about this a few years ago.
The whole “legacy program” dominance in college football is fascinating to me. I don’t know if it’s elite coaching, facilities/culture/perks at these schools or something sinister going on behind the curtain that helps them maintain their dominance.
I thought the scholarship reductions put in to play would help, but it seems like we are back to Ohio St., Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma thing again. I think an interesting case study might be Nebraska, they have not been able to return to the elite. Why? Was Tom Osborne that great of a coach?
Alabama was pretty bad for a while, and Clemson’s rise is pretty recent.
A lot of it is coaching, yeah. Check out how bad/average ‘Bama was before Saban:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/alabama/index.html
Check out Ohio State: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/ohio-state/index.html
The one year recently they didn’t have a HOF coach in Meyer or Tressel they were terrible.
We also see this at Oregon. They’ve had terrible coaches, so despite their recruiting success they’ve stunk since Kelly (HOF level college coach) left.
Bill Snyder — great coach who won with nothing.
To me it all starts at the top. Then facilities, recruiting, etc come in. All those schools likely cheat and buy players, too. But with a bad coach I’m not sure that matters.
Alabama was awful for awhile, but how did they get that back? Is it just coaching? Bama will be interesting after Saban leaves. Is Meyer that great of a coach? He must have something, but he eventually fell apart at Florida. It may have something to do with how many of these players make it to the NFL, but then no Bama QB’s seem to make it. It seems to be something with the institution along with superior coaching.
Notre Dame seems to pop back up every few years, but they are usually mediocre though the media wants them to be elite.
So the institutions all have “prestige”, but like you noted, that hasn’t helped Nebraska. Mile Riley isn’t going to elevate a program. Look at Michigan. Terrible and trending down until Harbaugh. I edited my post with more examples. It’s the coach/mentality set at the top. This is why the Ducks don’t scare me despite their classes. Mario is terrible with X/Os and setting a healthy vibe.
A good question is where Smith fits in all that. To me he seems pretty good with X/Os (not a lot of complaints about play calling/schemes this year) and business oriented/smart in his approach. He should do decent things at a minimum.
Was DE an elite college coach? Where would OSU be if he had stayed until retirement like a Snyder?
Elite coaches have to start somewhere, it would be nice if Smith is one of them, but then OSU most likely would not be able to keep him.
He was pretty elite. Not the level of those other guys but up there.
“I think an interesting case study might be Nebraska, they have not been able to return to the elite. Why?”
Golly, I have no idea!
Not that I’m one to make excuses for Riley, but three other coaches failed to take the Nebraska program back to Osborne’s level. Look up Callahan’s record when you get a chance!
Their former AD thought Riley would contend for national championships. That kind of judgment explains them sucking, IMO. That and they’re in the middle of nowhere. And corn is overrated. #TPB
Maybe other teams should pick up their game? This is the same argument that was made a few years ago about UConn wbb, why hamstring a few programs because they beat other programs consistently? Other programs need to catch up. The only rule changes that need to be made are game scheduling ones. Every school should play 8 league games and 4 OOC games with only 1 being against lower division schools. And they should take every OOC game and make them randomly chosen with a home and home commitment.
Scheduling is where schools like Alabama and clemson game the system 7 or 8 home games and 4 of them are against powder puffs.
Yeah, I know some don’t want to penalize success, and I understand that argument and somewhat agree. The alternative is the game dies, though. Nobody watches WBB and NCAA football is in decline.
This is why the NBA put in the lottery. It penalizes winning teams with fewer chances to win it. Why MLB put in the luxury tax. Why the NFL does salary cap/revenue sharing. Etc. Those things all made the sports more watchable and interesting.
Seems to me one factor is the use of CFB as a minor league for the NFL. Top flight game changers don’t have nearly the opportunity to go from HS to pro in football. Those top flight guys can then impact their chosen school.
Is College baseball more competitive because many top flight players go straight to MLB leaving a more homogeneous pool for the College game? Certainly a minor factor, but something that has intrigued me.
At any rate, I think history shows that many of those top flight guys who go straight to MLB would have benefited from college coaching.
Miami HC retires-Cristobal a candidate?
Wow, didn’t see Mark Richt retiring coming. duck fans will be on the edge of the seats until that job gets filled again. Cristobal would at least have to be one of their interviews. Can’t ignore the job he’s done in recruiting and of course his ties to the U
Miami doesn’t have a whole lot of obvious choices. Cristobal will be in the conversation even if he publicly denies it.
Exactly, whether he admits it publicly or not it’s most coach/player’s dream to make it back to the old alma mater and return them to glory.
This will be try #2 since richt was a Miami guy.
https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/1079436612260421632?s=19
Doesnt sound like a done deal, but good enough to make people squirm for awhile
Nvm, others are reporting it’s already done(Richt retiring)
Hope not. He’s terrible and will drive Oregon into the ground.
I spent the day yesterday hanging out with a player’s dad from the football team. We talked quite a bit about the current state of things at OSU. Long story short, everybody is pretty happy with Smith in the HC spot. Said it’s night and day around that program. His son said he learned more in 1 week of coaching this year than he did all of last year.
Barnes is not well liked by people around the program. Had many of the same criticism many of us have had. Said it just feels like Barnes is going through the motions and that he’s been a prick in his few interactions.
He said there’s one person in the OSU athletic department who should be the next AD at the school, and he didnt hesitate to say Scott Rueck is the one. He likes Casey too, but said Rueck is the most motivating person he’s ever been around and says it’s infectious. Just sharing because I thought it was interesting he didnt go with Casey as his #1
I find Rueck motivating and infectious. Never watched WBB in my life, and not sure I would if anyone else was the coach, even if we were winning. When things are done right it’s infectious.
Very interesting to me that a FB players dad would be tuned in to Rueck. Is he much more involved with OSU than most fathers of college players?
I like Casey a lot but have always wondered if a group of HC’s would be able to work for him. Not sure the intensity is something they could stomach.
I don’t have that concern with respect to Rueck.
Either one would be a vast improvement over what we now have; Rueck just seems more of a teacher and less intimidating than Casey.
On the surface Rueck seems like he would make a better AD than Casey. Casey seems sort of angst ridden to me, amazing coach, but I was tired of his on again/off again retirement comments.
He’s only fucking 59, coach the damn game or retire completely! He does not seem like an administrator to me. I don’t know what this interim crap is, except for an excuse for Casey to come back (which would be a good thing for the program).
Rueck’s outreach is amazing. He’s tireless, and he would make a good to great AD.
Pat Casey is no less amazing with his outreach. It just doesn’t come with the pretenses. If you can’t or aren’t willing to do something at that moment in time, he will go to the next person on his list. There are always enough people who are willing or able when asked that the list is never exhausted.
I’ll take either over Barnes.
But I won’t take Lynn Snyder, may he RIP.
Our old buddy Sidd up to fake news?
https://twitter.com/SiddFinch4/status/1079487288407556097
Timing of richt retiring works out. Oregon plays tomorrow. Miami interviews and offers after the game. I’d say Miami definitely offers Cristobal the job. The other candidates are retreads.
Any reports on why Richt walked away? Did he get bought out or was there more to it? He was making $4M and had a pretty recent contract extension, so that’s alot to walk away from.
Criscoballs has a $10m buyout today and it goes down to $8m after January, so Miami could save some money by waiting. In the meantime, Criscoballs could get oregon to pony up and give him a raise over the $2.5m he currently receives. Either way, he wins if Miami shows interest and is willing to make an offer.
He and Willie are so bad, yet people keep bidding them up. It’s insanity.
Sizzle vs Steak?
Amazing what marketing can do, especially in a wealthy country.
Speaking of sizzle and steak, whenever I see “Cristobal”, I think of Butterball turkeys slathered with Crisco.
Any reports on why Richt walked away?
The linked piece lists Cristobal and Diaz as top candidates and includes Mike Leach.
Re Cristobal “…that would mean Miami paying top dollar for a coach. Could an influx of ACC Network money make this feasible? The boosters will be behind Cristobal, but will their wallets follow?”
https://sports.yahoo.com/10-candidates-miami-coaching-job-will-mario-cristobal-head-home-210102769.html
Such a wise use of excess monies… even imagined… people think this way why?
According to espn Miami hires diaz as next head coach
https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25651267/miami-replacing-mark-richt-ex-assistant-manny-diaz-sources-say%3fplatform=amp
Oregon State hires Beau Baldwin!
That fuckstick can go to hell.
Bummer, was hoping they’d drag it out
Yeah, I would have liked to see the Quackies squirm for a few days, but it looks like we get to see if Cristobal can coach, my guess is that he will underachieve.
He won’t underachieve.
He pretty much sucks.
O-Live probably has an article about the relief at UO, that Cristobal, their ace recruiter, wasn’t the second coach in a row “poached” by a major program in Florida…never mind the Fortune Cookie Coach’s obvious history.
I haven’t looked at O-Live in months, don’t miss it.
Poor Sidd: https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1079600303735861249
Seems Sidd’s a gamblin’ man, operating on the “even a busted clock is right twice a day” theory!
That’s exactly what he does. He told me as much.
He does have a few connections in Texas, so anything with that State he might be alright with, but outside of that he knows zilch.
He could pick a more… well… an even somwhat compelling subject.
Poor Sidd?
I was reading someone’s posts about how they didn’t watch the NFL anymore, but they loved college football… because… you know… shit level play plus politics is better than raw abilities on the highest level.
Poor that guy.
Im that way, although it has nothing to do with politics. The nfl isnt interesting to me, sure its the highest level of play but the last 10 years have been nothing but a giant reality show. No thanks.
Oh and Brady will play in the super bowl again, the nfl cant afford for him not to be there.
College football ratings porn and post-season placements are nothing but politics. I don’t pay attention to anything that happens other than on the field, so I have zero clue what you think makes running and pitching and catching at high levels nothing but a giant reality show.
To be fair, I probably wouldn’t even watch the NFL if it wasn’t for Redzone and the family FF league. Football itself is just a bunch of people standing around, with an occasional jailbreak… or numerous more jailbreaks as the level of play regresses. OSU games are the only games I’m willing to punish myself in this way… or *sniff*… Navy.
What was it with FG kickers this year?
But I think more than anything for me is a love/hate relationship with the sport because it has done a lot of physical damage to players who make these great plays on a constant basis. I can’t imagine giving up my physical health (actually decreasing my longevity) in order to secure money or glory in a game. It’s easier to say that on this side the young and dumb spectrum, having escaped lasting damage from anything I did to myself for whatever reason. But it’s also hard to tell others they shouldn’t do it anymore, for valid reasons.
Brady won’t make it to the SB. NE is so beat up right now. He’ll still get numbers and be able to compete. And they do get a bye. And the AFC is weaker. So there’s always a chance. But he’s going to have to step it way up to advance. The AFC playoffs are not the AFC East.
The team to be afraid of in that conference is Los Angeles. They quietly put together their best season in years, with a D that can compete. A rested KC is the bully on the block. And Andrew Luck gets a third look at the Texans. A win there could give him an edge in playoff momentum. A Texans win means that Dline will be visiting a stadium near Tom.
“so I have zero clue what you think makes running and pitching and catching at high levels nothing but a giant reality show”
Its not so much that part as it is the nfl countdown, nfl countup, nfl pregame, nfl post game, nfl pre-post game, nfl post-pregame, nfl sunday morning, nfl monday afternoon, nfl thursday at 6 and 11, nfl dancing with the stars, nfl on Nickelodeon, wheres the nfl scooby-doo, nfl on ice, the nfl does dallas, the peoples court: nfl. And anything to do with fantasy football although thats not the nfls fault.
I knew players who went on to destroy themselves, some I grew up competing against or were the older siblings of friends, etc. But I never really got to see it up close, because we were all doing our own things. I think the first time I realized how much football could take from a person was when I met Earl Campbell in the late 80s. He was football in Texas in the 70s. He was such a sight to behold.
And here’s this man, not much older than me in my late 20s, walking with a cane and looking like he was my father’s age. It’s hard to see that and reconcile with my conscience for wanting to see more of it.
I guess the go to is: It’s a free country.
Earl will be the first to tell you he wouldn’t have done anything differently… except for getting addicted to pills and liquor when the pain was that bad.
I get being tired of all the hype, if you pay attention to it at all. Why put yourself through that?
It’s the pumpkin-spication of the NFL. If you only like pumpkin spice in your pie, where you have always traditionally eaten it, why pile all that other crap on top of your pie?
“Why put yourself through that?”
Thats the point, i dont…. I do watch the super bowl thats usually good because i can preoccupy myself with alcohol and good freinds. but when a games on (or supposed to be on) at 12, i want the game not the pre-post-pre-game with Frank Giffords corpse, Howie Longs highschool girlfriend and Tom Landrys hat reporting from the sidelines. Its like an absurd echo chamber of idol worship. And dont think I dont think its the same with college football (or Alabama cock worship if you will). I just enjoy it more, shitty fake trick plays and all.
I get the pie reference also, my mother makes the best pumpkin pie, it needs nothing on it. Libbys pumpkin pie filling with extra nutmeg, on a homemade crust. Now i want pie.
Then don’t watch that crap. You’re talking about two different things–pre/post games and games.
Like I said, just put it on Redzone, and do whatever. There’s six or seven hours of nothing but football plays. It’s noticeable when they flip to a feed that heads to commentary or a commercial, because the NFL Networks producers quickly yank the feed for another and/or go back to the host, who sometimes apologizes for your having to hear it.
It’s the only thing that retains my football fandom.
Some networks have tried this for college football with their own formulas. But they don’t have quality content (a major deficiency) or respect the viewers enough to not bombard them with ads and the fetishist commentaries about rankings, individual awards and bowl placements… commentaries that are apologist and unsound in most cases.
I gave up on college football some time back when I tuned into the Rose Bowl, and the in-game commentary was about how these teams “deserved” to be here, despite the product being what it was. And this was in what was a comparatively good game. It’s just that college football has all these dead periods during games where nothing of note really happens. It’s just a bunch of stops and starts going nowhere. And the announcers are probably told to keep the viewers’ interested. So they fall back on what they’ve been trained to do.
Well, no shit, Sherlock. Do you think your viewers don’t know how these teams made it here? I imagine most college football viewers must love to be annoyed as shit for hours on end. That’s the only thing I can think of when I hear people complain about announcers or wasting their time watching a worse than average college game. Because I don’t like to be constantly annoyed, I play music during a lot of live telecasts. If it’s a bad game, I don’t watch it.
I realized the next season that they were making these commentaries from the beginning of the following season. It was so ingrained in the national college football conversation, that they didn’t know how to break out of that mode once teams had finally earned what they ostensibly earned.
It was like they knew it was fluffy bullshit from the start, and they had to keep up that pretense constantly for fear of losing their compliant audience.
It’s now so bad that it colors every commentary that used to be independent of it. I don’t need to be sold on every angle in order to be compelled to watch a game. If you give me an even playing field and rules, I’m in.
NCAA: These are teams we expect to see playing at the end of the year, they deserve it… a one loss team that we said would play at the end of the year is better than half the undefeated teams left, plus their QB is now a heisman hopeful… but the undefeateds deserve to be in the conversation… even though they didn’t win their division or play in their conference championship, we told you this team would be here at the beginning of the year… they deserve to be here.
The NFL: Try to win games… these are the tie-breaks… this is how the play-offs are set up… here’s a fully inflated ball… give us a game.
Would’ve been nice to see the Ducks toss and turn in bed for a few days, but good for Miami.
I just feel bad for Temple in all of this. Back to the drawing board for them.
Temple survived Cosby, they’ll be OK,
Temple could always bring back Al Golden. Also on the coaching front, Houston fired Major Applewhite after two winning seasons. AD said something about 10-2 being the standard for the Cougars now. Damn!
Maybe Cougar High has standards That don’t allow them to retain a serial co-ed shtupper?
Hearing Gary Andersen considering ripping up his contract at Utah State and coming back to be DC/assistant head coach next year. Wants to make things right. Contract language and student feedback a factor. Call it a revenge tour.
Also, Riley’s nephew stays on as special assistant and daughter in law keeps her cushy job! The proposed AD budget for 2019+ ensures failure on several levels. The tax payer subsidies must be massive
Hearing Gary Andersen considering ripping up his contract at Utah State and coming back to be DC/assistant head coach next year.
So he signed it while drunk, then sobered up?
PS. I hope you mean DC/Assistant for Utah.
It takes a Duck to imagine something this dumb.
I’m going to shut down the university until they build a wall to keep GA out.
Hostage-taking is the new black.
UCLA fired Alford. Now watch them go hire Musselman like we should have a few years ago.
Whats the chances Petino comes back from Europe?
pretty much
Hmmm… 73 names… Charlotte, Mizzou, Seattle, TCU, and Utah with 2… OSU with 3.
https://watchstadium.com/news/comprehensive-list-of-college-basketball-players-transferring-12-29-2018/
Just bad luck? Poor recruiting? Injuries? A mix of all three?
If injuries are the excuse, then poor recruiting and developmental strategies are to blame. There’s nothing wrong with shutting someone down to give them time to physically heal… unless it’s their last season, and they just want it that bad. But there also need to be contingencies for these injuries. If one or two players makes your team, you’re not a team.
And out of the 15 true freshmen transfers, 2 are from OSU. That’s not good.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1079808325410119686
Didn’t we already know that?
Coaching?
Who else is hoping Pac-12 teams lose their bowl games?
Why?
He wants to round them varmints up?
Ha, that Redbox bowl crowd looks amazing…
https://twitter.com/erichesports/status/1079830543162793986?s=19
Score looks pretty comparable
Nice. But it looks like more than the game – and the current NCAA bowl system – deserve.
Imagine getting a significant injury in a meaningless game like this.
Sun Bowl looks equally compelling…with Stanford literally fumbling to a TD in a 14-13 win over Pitt.
I like the SOUND of the score and the potential that teams actually played defense, but I’m not sure if that was the case or if it was inept offensive play(?).
Anyone hear any scuttlebutt about the DB coach search? Any leading candidates?
I guess I missed something — didn’t know we had a DB coach search. Who did we lose (or get rid of)?
Greg Burns to USC, just before Christmas.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-burns-hired-20181217-story.html
OT (sorta): Does anyone want Keith Heyward back? Not likely to happen; he now carries the title “Co-Defensive Coordinator/Safeties”.
BTW, in Nov 2017 he said he “believed” in coach Taggart.
Does he get any credit for the Michigan State QB’s tendency to abandon the pass yesterday??
Thanks, Oneoldbeaver
Happy new year fellas.
Doing some New Year’s Day bean counting and sorting – two trash cans full already – and I’m fairly tidy. Dunno where it all comes from. Decided to listen to Rose Bowl game – listening to games on radio is a fine foil to bean counting. Oops. “Due to contractual agreement” neither the oSU or Udub had online radio coverage. I went to an online video stream – not a subscription one. I don’t have cable, so ESPN was out. I am not particularly IT savvy and it seems to me that “contractual agreements” and exclusions for sporting events, large and small, rarely exclude anyone who really wants to watch/listen.
ESPN radio, supposed to be 940am in Bend. Didn’t come in for me but 1000am did…after a fashion. Surprised there wasn’t a solid signal from 940 and just a poor one from 1000. Back in front of a TV now, disappointing show by UW.
What a dismemberment. There are off and on comments about Oregon State being shuffled off to a lower conference. Perhaps the Pac-12 should consider a downgrade. BTW announcers noted, pregame, Artavis Pierce’s two big returns against Washington as an illustration of weakness in Washington’s play.
Larry Scott reminds me of Fisher (?) coaching the Rams – losing seasons but he kept getting hired until someone finally called a halt. Not sure why Larry Scott is still commissioner.
On a positive note: Will Bill Walton stop croaking “conference of champions” every other sentence when he broadcasts?
Pierce only carried a few times for 6 yards against UW before being shut down. What is the point they’re trying to make?
I didn’t hear the announcers but am thinking they compared AP’s production vs tOsu (NOT VS UW) to that of the dawgs vs tOsu.
Point being that UW was weak if they couldn’t run on tOsu the way AP did.
Just my guess.
For fun:
…………OSU vs tOsu — UW vs tOsu
Yds rushing: 196 vs 375 — 129 vs 113
Yds passing: 196 vs 346 — 315 vs 251
Total Offense 392 vs 721 — 444 vs 364
Beavs gave up twice as many yds as Huskies but produced nearly the same yds on offense.
Back when Nick Bosa, the likely #1 pick in the upcoming draft, playing defense for tOsu too
Your source of “shuffling off Oregon State to a lower conference”…. what’s your source? The only thing I’ve read is from Duck trolls.
@greatswammi, this was the same thing I said in another thread. It’s dumb and there aren’t any “experts” saying this. Yeah a couple of bad seasons let’s move a team out of the conference. This isn’t the premier league in soccer.
Define “expert” because I could link some articles to non-Duck trolls discussing the issue.
And you’re the only one claiming it is because of the losing seasons that OSU may get left behind
I’m ready to read when you are
And your comment about “discussing” isn’t what we are referring to. My dog and daughter can discuss anything they want. Doesn’t mean it has any teeth to it.
If I remember correctly, the only example of this actually happening was Temple being “kicked out” of the old Big East football conference for being non-competitive. I don’t see it happening in the P-12.
In 2001, Temple was only a member for football… which the Big East only started 10 years before. As they added and lost schools for either football or complete membership, Temple was always a red-headed stepchild, because the hoops schools in the conference didn’t really want anything to do with football. And they were afraid the football schools would gain a majority and the power in the conference. So they found excuses to get rid of Temple… then invite them back… then kick all football teams out.
It’s not an absurd theory.
“On a positive note: Will Bill Walton stop croaking “conference of champions” every other sentence when he broadcasts?”
Maybe its a game for his “fans,” but instead of taking a drink, that take a hit of pot or another bite of an edible…
Any numbnuts talking about removing any P5 school needs to tell us who (from a non-P5 conference) would replace them or admit they don’t know how the NCAA works… or even how the Pac 12 works, for that matter.
And Artavis Pierce was mentioned with regards to having two long runs against tOSU, so Larry Scott should be fired?
That doesn’t really follow.
That’s what happens when doing a sortout while listening to a game. Artavis Pierce was mentioned for two long run-backs against one of the two teams playing today in the Rose Bowl. Dunno if they are duck trolls who advocate an Oregon State demotion – especially after a particularly bad (usually football) loss – only that it is not a singular comment and is most often anonymous.
I said i wasnt going to get into recruiting news for a bit, but I guess i lied. Another user sent me a name to watch yesterday for a pitential grad transfer DT we may be trying to snag.
Might be worth keeping an eye on Zach Abercrumbia from Rice.
https://riceowls.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4122
He’d be a redshirt senior and had a pretty good offer list out of highschool actually, which wouldnt normally be indicative of a guy who lands at Rice.
Looks like a decent player on an awful team. The Beavs certainly need depth. Not sure why he would be interested in OSU, if he could land somewhere where a team might win more (unless he has a Beaver connection)?
Agree, seems like the upside for him wouldnt be too great, unless he really likes our grad program offerings
Pac refs embarrassing themselves in Sugar Bowl. Took them 3 tries to get the rules right on a play. Shocking.
That’s par for the course, not shocking!