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Can the OODA Loop be Used in College Sports?

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Today I came across a concept called the “OODA Loop” in this lecture (a fascinating listen if you have a half hour and like technology). Apparently it’s used in the military with good result. You can read about it in detail here. But the key takeaway for me was this:

The approach explains how agility can overcome raw power in dealing with human opponents.

I interpret “agility” as mental agility, although physical agility can be applied. The Beavs tend to get 2 and 3 star recruits who are slower and weaker than opponents’. So, is “agility” the way to go? Players who are bright, mentally resilient, quick thinkers, action oriented.

One thing that’s for sure is we need to try something different. It seems Smith is recruiting intelligent players, so maybe he is instinctively taking this approach. Instead of players putting out film with their 4.4 time and bench reps, maybe there should be metrics developed for how fast a player can process information, comprehend it fully, and react, etc. The NFL does this to some degree, but I don’t know of any colleges doing it. Seems like a good business opportunity that will help both Universities and recruits. To my knowledge, there is no Billy Beane of football. Seems odd.

On a more general note, the more you look around, the more you see this in say world affairs as China is bringing down the U.S. not with might but by encouraging and funding our debt/currency debasement, and Russia via misinformation and division. These are weak opponents who are making inroads because of “agility”. So, I think it’s an interesting concept. We think of speed and power when it comes to sports or winning any battle, but mental agility might be where it’s at.

Anyway, I like trying to view sports in an alternative light, so I thought this model was interesting enough to share. If not, just ignore it and move on with your day.

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    • From the link, describing the OODA loop:
      “…engaging in activity that is so quick it is disorientating to the enemy – inhibits the adversary’s ability to adapt and causes confusion and disorder that, in turn, causes an adversary to overreact or underreact.”

      Gotta wonder if Chip Kelly studied this topic before becoming a HC. (Of course there is nothing in the book about training WR’s in the art of the downfield hold/block!).

    • MAGA

      As for the post, I think Smith is thinking they can find inefficiencies in recruitment by going for smart hard working guys. It’s a moneyball type strategy.

        • or because the gov is shut down and non essential employees have been furloughed?

          Nah, couldn’t be that. Too simple of an explanation.

          • I’m not disagreeing that could’ve been done. Your initial statement said they have access to a world class chef. I was answering why they probably didn’t. Don’t shoot the messenger

          • Yeah, I’m not sure if the chef is considered non-essential. Probably since Trump eats fast food each night. Lol.

            I wasn’t shooting you. I just don’t understand how you serve men in suits, who are your guest, fast food. At the very least cater it if your chef is furloughed.

          • What’s wrong with shit fast food?

            Between them and big box retailers, their employees constitute about half of all food stamp recipients. If it wasn’t for them giving these people jobs, they might go out and find employment without all the hassle of being a shit in the bowl of the cheapo-stuff empire built by true Murikans like the Waltons, et al.

            That being said, who cares what Dumbshit does from here on out? We need to start preparing for a world where we can step in and fix all the inanities his lack of competent management and overabundance of corruption will leave in their wakes. He has now (and will continue to) blown enough shit up to just start over on a bunch of stuff. He obviously has zero clues as to where to go from here… other than to throw away a year-long compromise in order to move the goalposts… yet again.

            Trump is a pseudo-man whose word is as solid as the poo the Clemson football team will extrude after eating that bland pseudo-food.

          • Heh heh…

            Does anyone think Dumbshit would spend money on a real chef for non-paying customers?

            He rarely hires competent ones at the restaurants he owns. Why would a notorious skinflint like Dumbshit drop that kind of coin on an event that doesn’t at least pretend to add to his bottom line?

            Not gonna happen.

  1. OT, totally OT, but I saw this morning that our friends at Nike have come up with a shoe that you use a phone app to ‘lace up.’ Not sure if I should laugh or cry at the idiocy.

    Can’t wait to see U of Nike running the court and their kicks flying off as Beavos hack their stupid shoes.

  2. Whoa!

    Asymmetrical warfare can be used effectively against larger forces?

    Who knew?

    Maybe if Bowie and Travis didn’t hole up behind walls, like a bunch of fraidy-cats, they could still be alive.

        • It’s okay.

          If we’d have kept running over him, like we did when Mannion came in late in the first half, Texas would have gone to ground and confused us with the agility guerrilla warfare provides.

          We had to keep passing. And if we put a TE over the guy who kept beating his solo block, they would have known we were going to pass.

          It was a Catch-4 situation.

    • Interesting bits…
      The constant B1G QB is Brady. That guy is overrated. Brees is the other, this year.

      There are four Pac QBs in four years, with Luck making it five in five in 2014-15. Rodgers (PAC) and he lost to Wilson (B1G) and… *sigh*… again, Brady.

      That guy is overrated.

      • You arbitrarily decrease the sample size by denying the data from the season, which allowed these players to compete with a broader sample in order to make it to their respective conference championships.

        Like or dislike some college hoops programs, but you can definitively say Duke has had a great program over the past 30 years due to their ability to make it to that small sample. What they do from there has little to do with the argument at hand. Simply being there means they had to create a larger body of continued success which must be added to your data set to even pretend to be informed.

        Brady would be an outlier, were it not for Wilson and Brees. Goff, Rodgers, Palmer, Luck and Foles all likely have some more tales of success to create… with some on this blog hoping we just remove the old (Palmer) and replace him with the young (Darnold).

        Mahomes may be the beginning of a Big12 run, with Mayfield and others in tow. He may end up a perennial outlier, like Brady would if he were alone.

        But it’s interesting that these conferences who do put the best overall quality of the most important position in the most popular sport in this country, year after year, are constantly maligned as talentless and boring.

          • My parameter was making the conference CG. This is just noting that in 22 years of existence, no Big12 QB has ever won a playoff game, divisional or wild card.

            In aggregate, seasonal success will translate to play-off success more often than not. In that case, the division winner you were complaining about was knocked out in the divisional round. Tie-breaks agreed upon before the season begins allowed GB to slip into the sixth seed. And that’s all they needed.

            The rules were simple and set in stone. Aberrations you want to cherry pick and then conflate with the whole are pretty easily dismissed.

  3. Not much to report on recruiting right now, but looks like Beavs might try to poach Akili Arnold from Utah State, so he might be a guy worth watching. Plays at the same school as Jojo Forest

    • QB carousel is starting to move fast. This is going to happen every year now. Smith has already picked up a castoff so maybe that’s the future of QB recruiting?

        • Also wouldn’t surprise me if he’s teasing Jacob Ferensczi, but he likely won’t be a 2019 kid and instead greyshirt and count towards 2020.

          Also, Thomas Sio I wouldnt be surprised as an upcoming commitment. He hasnt officially been offered but from what I was told by another person close to that situation, an offer is expected in the next day or 2. I could see him immediately giving his verbal commit after receiving an offer.

          • If we do offer the kid from north bend, (maybe it’ll be a preferred walk-on spot) I’m a little surprised we don’t keep that spot open for a transfer, a slip through the cracks kinda guy. It doesn’t seem like a guy that should be playing if we are crawling out of the gutter of the conference imo.

    • So much WTF going on there.

      For one, the 6th floor is a silent floor (spent a lot of time there over undergrad/grad), most people are plugged into headphones and you could otherwise hear a pin drop. But, the one thing you can hear very clearly is the toilets flushing (because it’s so quiet). The bathrooms are centralized right next to the elevator, just 2 stalls (one handicapped) and urinals. So, for some reason some dude chose the quiet floor to pleasure himself, the most likely floor where someone might overhear him, and also just by happenstance a PhD student/employee is hanging out up there recording it? Just randomly?

      Sounds more like an arranged meet-up between willing participants that’s now a public ex-bf voyeur porn scandal after feelings soured.

  4. OT – I’ve probably brought this up before, but Brandin Cooks has certainly had a diverse mix of fortunes in his young career; playing for two HOF QBs in Brees, Brady, two conference championship games (one upcoming), one super bowl so far, playing for a very productive Rams offense with Gurley, Goff…..on the negative side a couple of pretty bad concussions for my liking.
    Really hoping he gets a SB ring this year.

    Down the road he could coach and recruit for the Beavs after having played for and with some of the better offensive minds in the game…

      • One of many gripes about the nice guy/gum chewer is how he wasted Hekker’s ability to throw. Another is how he focused on Mannion’s ability to throw, to the detriment of W/L.

        Hekker, most underutilized arm in OSU history?
        Mannion, most overutilized arm?

        Not saying Hekker should have been QB, just that the threat of him throwing was a weapon wasted.

        • College punt rules different than the NFL. That’s why you don’t see college punters running fakes or passing.

          The difference is in the formation rules. NCAA rules allow the lineman on the punt team to release down field immediately. In the NFL, lineman can’t release until the ball is kicked. Only gunners can go down field.

          That’s why you see the shield formation in NCAA. Passing would be really tough since defenses only rush a few guys now.

  5. Looked through Rawls highlights.

    The good, plays a spot of need.

    The bad – looks slow but he might be more quick than fast. A tiny bit undersized. Could get overwhelmed by bigger olineman.

    Overall – if he’s a 4 to play 3, he should redshirt. If he gains more weight, he could be a nt candidate. Equivalent to a high 2 star high school signing.

    At best he’s a rotation player.

    • But we’ve always needed rotation players. It would be nice to have a full stable of rotation players in order to allow the good to great players recruited to play against something other than constant double teams.

      Interior D-linemen in the NFL were overwhelmingly nobodies with two or three stars out of high school who developed once they landed at a place with a training table and a strength coach. It’s the ultimate build-a-player position.

      • Agree here Jack. Also, I think the undersize part in terms of height could be a nice curveball for big slow lineman. I say throw em all at the other team and see if we can’t get more than a few sacks and little pressure from our d-line.

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