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The original post:
For those who missed it, Luton graded out at 2.7 out of 6 and was accused of having bad body language and quitting. How that “Player of the Week” status seems like a distant dream. People were arguing this is just a number and means zero. Since we’re just grading his passes, it means the passes themselves (rather than the outcomes) are below average, which was pretty interesting. If it means nothing to you keep burying your head in the sand. It’s your right.
Gebbia looked like a natural leader and natural QB. Very subtle things like throwing a tight spiral, quick decisions, scanning the field, throwing a TD on the run, snapping the ball to catch their defender in penalty, “moxie”, etc. We should be breaking him in now if we want to be the team we can possibly be next year (and the rest of this year).
PS. Chuck_the_Mouth, who said this week’s games in the CBS pool were the “easiest picks yet” after I said they were tough, scored 5/12. I scored 7/12 for reference. Bad week for the anti-AB, Luton sack suckers. Somewhere, a sock monkey was throw at a wall, but since we weren’t there to hear it, did it make a sound?
Funny, I hadn’t checked the CBS results yet for this week.
I have 2 separate accts for making picks and use different strategies for both, and somehow both ended up as part of a 3 way tie for 1st this week.
You all can suck it, twice. At least for 1 week.
I saw you won it. When I saw Moss starting + Avery out I went to change my OSU pick to Utah, but they locked me out, even thought it was before the schedule game time on their own site and the game hadn’t kicked off. Cost me a point!
On one account i try to think through my picks. And on the other account, i just chose every home team. At least for this week.
After everyone kept saying it was just for fun we should make sure to keep it that way. Trying to warn how it would be somehow how used for personal justification and sure enough, see above. By the way, since it was for fun, I’m sure someone was keeping score for Gebbia too against the back ups? Or was it purely just try and make a point about Luton for those obsessed with him? I’m stoked for Gebbia next year, but trying to make sure my head is not stuck in the back up qb sand that plagues most fan bases
I am convinced angry doesn’t watch porn… He watches clips alternating with Luton missing passes and Gebbia making the throws… Angry I took a whole minute on the cbs pick’em… are you really bragging about it? (Same words you used weeks ago)
Well you’re right about one thing: I don’t watch porn.
Too skanky. I like high quality women.
You mean high quality throws and some moxie mixed in
I thought the “give Gebbia a chance crowd” (of which I am one) were properly generous and gracious in their praise of Luton after the UCLA game. Their (our) collective hesitation/concern was to avoid the grandiose extrapolation that the UCLA game proved Luton was the best choice for starter once and for all.
And just to expand on my opening sentence, and speaking only for myself, it’s not entirely clear that Gebbia is better than Luton because of the limited sample size, but the damn thing is, we don’t know for sure because Smith has refused to give Gebbia a chance to play other than in garbage time. There have been four games: Oklahoma State, Hawaii, Stanford, Utah where OSU could have used a spark by bringing Gebbia in. If it doesn’t work out; fine, go back to Luton. What’s he going to do? Transfer? None of these decisions are for a lifetime, but from game to game, or within quarters of a game.
Conversely, A@A, Chuck, and Alumni, simply want to close the debate. In his usual understated manner, Jim Wilson was very critical of Luton and the offense, blaming them for the magnitude of the loss. Which is to say, with serviceable offensive production on OSU’s part Utah might have won anyway; it’s the extreme offensive dysfunction that led to that grotesque margin of victory; the worst, as Pettibone pointed out, since the national championship bound UW pounded the Beavs 58-6 back in 1991.
I didn’t listen to Wilson’s comments. Did he lay the blame primarily on Luton? I am not a football genius, but it looked to me like we had no running game and Utah was able to pressure the quarterback without needing to blitz. It usually doesn’t go well no matter who your QB when that is the case, but he is pretty pretty honest about how he sees things and if he thinks Luton was the problem, that certainly says something.
Wilson will never speak bluntly when he’s circling around a criticism of the program. (And I don’t find fault with that, either; he works for the same “company.” ) But in conversation with Ron Callan in the postgame show he came right out and said Luton had a bad game and the offense played well below its potential and basically said that it was unacceptable. He thought the Beavs would lose anyway and a loss is a loss whether by 1 point or 45, but to me he sounded shocked at how bad Luton played. And during play by play he clearly communicated that Luton was well off his game.
Here’s the thing that I don’t understand about Smith. His whole damn career was made by Riley making a QB change in the 8th game of the season. Almost pulled out a huge upset vs. UW. Put in during the second quarter, as I recall, when OSU was already down by 3 + scores. (Maybe someone with greater search skills than I, like OOB or BG can find the game summary.) Yet, he doesn’t give his Gebbia a single chance
Your reference to Smith’s own experience – and how it DOESN’T appear to inform his current QB situation – makes me wonder if he identifies more with unknown, unwanted Luton v. a 4* recruit that was wanted by major programs? Again, we all know stars don’t mean a lot, but it does say something when multiple programs want a kid.
Again, Smith had the perfect chance to insert Gebbia @ Hawaii; Luton had gone ice cold as he is wont to do, and the game was within reach.
Going to “weeelll” you here: There was the 7-52 loss to the six loss Udub team in 2015, so suck-dom really isn’t that far away. Still a ways off against good teams in terms of a complete offense.
Of the visitors last night, I will go out on a limb and say I think we will end up with verbal commitments from all 3 of the JC defensive backs(Hardge, Wright, Julian) and eventually we will land Jake Overman, but his announcement will take a little longer.
Don’t think we have any shot with Kaden Johnson.
Time will tell.
This really would be huge. Langston the stud DT what are you hearing. Landing all these guys would be amazing.
Obviously the one kid (Wright) is the brother of the dude they already got, but I didn’t realize that Julian was their cousin. If that all ties together like it could it would be huge. All of those guys look pretty damn good.
I also hope that job #1 for the staff is keeping the two JC D ends on board.
Are there any quality nose tackles on the board?
That is good news. I was worried with how we lost(so badly) on how that would effect all those potential recruits that attended the ballgame
This is the first home game I’ve missed (while I’m in town) for a very very long time. I had this feeling that the Beavs would win it simply because I wasn’t there.
My feelings were wrong, took me 45 minutes to Tivo through the game and go back to spending quality time with my grandson.
Such an embarrassing performance. Just rips any hope from under the UCLA win just like the Colorado win last year.
I’m glad the team got to have a little joy after the UCLA win. Couldn’t imagine having to live through a whole season of back to back beat downs.
Jason, I got to watch my older brother bitch and moan in agony as his Huskers got their corncobs pushed up where the sun don’t shine.
Last summer he was saying they were going to run the table and even beat tOSU in Lincoln. #delusional. Thanks again for the tailgate.
“Tivo” wait what? People still use that thing? “Grandson” Ahhhh ok.
Gebbia played in garbage time against backups. There is nothing that can be gleaned from that.
Team (minus Luton) looked better in the 2nd half. Down 49-0. Against the backups. There is nothing to be gleaned from that.
What’s the common theme here?
Whittingham took his foot off the gas. Had be not Utah could’ve won 90-0.
We ALL should have seen this coming. Myself included. Lucy pulled the football away from Charlie Brown. Again. This describes beaver football in a nutshell and does nothing to change my criticism of this coaching staff or the OSU football program from the top down. Small time, bottom feeders.
Lunch pail U my ass.
My big takeaway from the last two games? What in the fuck is going on at UCLA? How did they manage to beat WSU in Pullman and make OSU look like a halfway decent team?
(Note: I watched none of the game thankfully)
Here’s what I DO know. Luton is what he is. A serviceable QB against mediocre and bad teams. After hearing he basically quit in the 2nd half against the Utah backups, no one, not one fucking person can justify him playing going forward. Inexcusable.
I’m glad I’m dead.
IP check shows location as “purgatory.”
I have been neutral on the whole Gebbia / Luton debate. With that being said this is not the first time Luton has had horrible body language when thing are not going well. I remember last season when Blount was playing the camera would flash to Luton and he always seemed to look uninterested/ pouting. If you can’t sack up when the chips are down and fold like a cheap suit when things are not going smoothly it’s time to get the fuck out of the way.
I realize many on this board are afraid that JS will “lose the locker room if he makes the move to Gebbia (this is understandable after what happened with Luton and MM) but at this point JS needs to put the hammer down and make the hard decision (actually not that hard) to bench Luton. A bad attitude is infectious and it’s time for him to ride the pine the rest of the season (pending injury)
Maybe he has bias against 4-star studs since he wasn’t one.
That’s was is so perplexing. If you watch some of JS’s games from back in the day it’s obvious why he was a walk-on he was very limited on talent. What he did have in buckets was guts, moxie, and NFL caliber receivers. His SR year all is the receivers were gone but he still left everything on the field and played his ass off. You would think he would see Luton’s attitude and bench him.
Unlike Luton at least Smith could actually hit a receiver in stride.
Football head. Average body
For whatever reason, JS thinks highly of Luton. I mean, couldn’t he have told Luton tactfully not to bother with the paperwork for the sixth year at OSU? It seems like it would have been the most direct route to play for the future. There must be something JS thinks he is NOT seeing with Gebbia still. We will probably never know.
He leaves and we have no depth. It was good he came back, just not as the starter.
Screw depth, every team in the nation seems to have a freshman who can come off the bench and light up an opponent. What teams don’t have is a mediocre sixth year senior standing in the way of development.
Fuck him and fuck Luton.
6th year senior. Alleged team leader. Dude fucking quit on his teammates in the 4th quarter.
What’s his record now as a starter? 3-99??? His record says Loser. Pure and simple. He ever beaten a team with a winning record?
Despite his O-line and coaching staff doing him no favors, he fucking sucks donkey cock against any defense that’s not inferior. Why some of you chuckleheads and your sock monkeys fail to see this is beyond me.
If he’s not benched for quitting on his team then Smith and his poor choices can suck a fart out of my ass.
Best chance to win? How about zero chance when the other team doesn’t suck.
And don’t even get me started on the pussies on defense that are afraid of contact, hitting someone or tackling. I’ve seen girls that hit harder.
Are you suggesting that Luton no start next week?
I am. He straight quit on his last series.
Agreed he quit. Every pass play in the second half was a roll out scramble and he just threw the ball away. There was absolutely no one in pursuit of him on those scrambles and he could have stopped and looked downfield to find an open receiver, but nope, he just threw it away.
I’m suggesting he not play at all
Is this something you feel strongly about, WSN?:-)
I guess we know why Hodgins, who has a vested interest in keeping a QB who doesn’t know how to go through progressions, kept telling his teammates “Luton is a leader!”. As I said earlier, the axiom is, “show don’t tell”…and when it was showtime the guy futilely threw the ball into the ground out of frustration. If Gebbia plays and goes through his progressions we probably don’t have a Biletnikoff candidate anymore.
All this talk of Luton when the real issue was the o line was outmanned. How in the world do you even score let alone win when you can’t run the ball at all and guys are in the backfield play after play. People are obsessed beyond reason with Luton here. He looked frustrated but no one except some Luton haters here ever spoke of him quitting. Quit your obsession with Luton. There were players on both offense and defense who obviously played much worse.
Hes a quitter. Period.
Oh and since he didnt play any quarters this week and actually played 4 last week hes back to 30-minutes-or-less-Luton.
Get Luton’s ball bag off your chin.
There’s no defending the loser/quitter anymore.
You didn’t even watch the game. Just clinging to someone who labeled him a quitter because you want to hate on him. I would be up in arms if he quit on the team, especially since I wanted Gebbia in the offseason too. But I don’t let someone else speak for me and then go on hate sprees.
Jack, RIP, is the only poster who can make quitting judgements.
I don’t need to watch ONE game to know. Been watching Luton for 3 years now and it’s the same shit show.
Multiple people on here and twitter have stated Luton quit. I guess they’re all wrong?
Noted that your Luton fathead is stuck to your wall with your DNA.
I guess what’s the point in arguing if you haven’t watched? And why the judgement shots? They are grossly wrong and worsen any post. If you can see above I actually was hoping for gebbia. I’m just willing to see the middle ground is the reasonable spot at this time. Luton has done decent. Would Gebbia be better or worse, no one is for certain, but he also certainly hasn’t clearly been any better in his games, spring game, or as has been reported in practice. Truly the guys that play day in and day out would say something if they thought they would have a better chance of winning right now with gebbia.
Yes the players are going to come out to the media and say they want Gebbia to start. That sound total plausible.
No one said coming out to the media. But speaking of media, remember Egger’s piece, he said this is the first time he remembers two quality pac 12 quarterbacks since Canfield and Moevao. Luton has been just that. People that are Luton haters just keep their heads in the sand and ignore anything that says otherwise. I think Gebbia will be good, at least I hope so, just nothing from his game play shows that he is above Luton right now. Could he get there, sure.
So why are we starting luton? We know what he is, a guy who gets frustrated then flat out quits. The unknown with gebbia is 1000x better then the known of luton.
“People that are Luton haters just keep their heads in the sand and ignore anything that says otherwise”
Slurp, slurp, slurp, slurp, slurp.
As stated. I’ve watched for almost three years. Ive rooted for him long enough. And in response to your other moronic post, yes! Had he not been named the starter over McMaryion by Anderson I do believe OSU would’ve had a better record that season. We’re not just talking about this year. This joker has been the starter since the beginning of 2017 unless injured. I’ve seen enough of him to know what he is as a QB. And it’s brought OSU 2 wins vs non FCS opponents in the last 2-1/2 seasons.
But I’m burying my head in the sand and a Luton hater. LMFAO!!!
No disagreement from me that the offense line looked like garbage against Utah.
If that’s the case though, then we’re better off with a more mobile quarterback who can run and at least try to gain something when the pocket breaks down than a statue who can only either throw the ball away or lay down and take the yardage loss. Plus, having a more mobile quarterback will help keep defenders hope, relieving pressure on the offensive line. Given how Luton moves as though the field is molasses, Gebbia has to be our choice as the more mobile quarterback.
That is fair and reasonable. I’m not against going with Gebbia. I just think it’s also completely reasonable to keep playing Luton based on what we have seen, how practices must go, how the team responds to the qb, how Luton is actively reported about leading the team well off the field etc.. I’m giving a long rope to Smith because I know probably less than a 1/4 of the story. What I do see is he has been willing to play young or inexperienced players all the time if it gives them the best chance to win. And what I did see was a full team collapse that a qb change wouldn’t solve. Again, fully respect going with Gebbia. But can’t stand unfair hate towards a player that is rampant only in a few people here.
Refresh my memory….
What’s his record as starting QB?
It’s not unfair
So we change out Luton and our record is better? Wishful thinking. Just as fair a chance the record is worse.
No we make a change that could spark something. Why leave Luton in when hes ineffective? The guy has now played 18 college games and has won 3. He dosnt have it, it’s over. Let gebbia play and start looking to the future.
I mean to be fair… Luton is not responsible for all of the losses in his starts.
I just don’t see the logic in keeping him in so long on a game that is out of hand (Utah) or when he has clearly lost “it” (Hawaii). Gebbia’s ability/willingness to scamper for short gains once the pocket starts breaking up alone would have won the Hawaii game.
Its frustrating to watch a qb half ass scramble out of the pocket then just throw the ball into the sidelines. Lutons last play was pathetic. They blitz it gets picked up and luton just gives up and throws the ball away. I’m not sure he ever looked down field for more then a glance.
One issue with Luton and why I place some of the blame on him (mostly the coaches though for being stubborn) is his limitations. Imagine a world where the defense has to spy on the qb just in case he scrambles and picks up 7-8 yards. That eliminates one defender and makes the defensive line keep contain rather than just bull rushing straight for a statue. If the offensive line is struggling you role the qb out, you get him moving. Luton can’t do this. I bet Luton would be a great 7-7 qb where he can stand there will all day and just sling it. Good teams won’t let him do this. If Luton keeps playing I expect all good head coaches to come after him. You saw Hawaii do it in the second half. 6th year and no tactics for handling the pressure. That’s a pretty good sample size.
I’d love to see Smith announce the day of the Cal game Gebbia is starting and catch Cal off guard.
yes, it was going to be a struggle running against Utah regardless, EXCEPT, if you played a QB with some mobility to make the read-option work, then maybe the running game opens up a little. Simple, actually.
How are you guys commenting? I had the site in maintenance mode as I redid the entire theme.
The old one was crap/breaking. This is what we’re going with. A lot of moving parts, so let me know if anything is broken.
I like the easier editing when needed.
I like the update, thank you.
For an an old guy like me (but NOT as old as OOB), l like the larger font size.
Seems like normal size for me. Are you typing on a jitter bug phone?
Wannabeav typing on a jitter bug phone?…Naw, he simply assigns that task to one of the crew on the yacht!
Jumped in to see the comments about the latest disaster and noticed the new theme. nice!
Quitting is no bueno
Some here still think hes the best option. That’s right they think a fucking quitter should be the starting QB going forward.
We have a new men’s hoops commit tonight.
6’6″ 3* PF, Isaiah Johnson, who visited during Stanford weekend.
https://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Johnson-46056384/
Offer sheet is meh. What’s the opinion from people who actually follow bball recruiting?
One instance where, sadly, Jack isn’t here
He is a little slow and a little light. Needs to hit the weights.
Jack or the recruit?
Yeah I was surprised to see comments time stamped during the afternoon. I got the site maintenance page most of the day. New skin looks clean so far.
Avatar?
Yep, had to log in.
Cool.
I still don’t understand how those guys were commenting. Must have been a caching issue.
Everyone make sure to logout/login to clear your cache.
Twitter feed is good to go too, after I found it haha.
I don’t see the Twitter feed when I open up a post, only on the home page. Am I missing something?
Main page all the way at the bottom.
That’s weird, it’s at the top right corner for me on the main page. Just like it used to be. But I dont see it in the single threads.
If you’re on a larger device like a laptop it should be in the usual top right spot. On a phone it’s at the bottom (I’m not sure where it was before since I don’t use phone often). It’s not in the single threads so we have more room for discussion, but I could put it on each page.
Bottom of the main page on my Android, and that’s perfectly fine with me.
Is that where it was on the former one?
Crazy, mines android and on the top. And I’m not in desktop mode. Whatever it all works.
No it was top/right of the page before.
TPB’s
Two Nebraska fans in front of me halfway through the 4th quarter, “maybe we can get Riley back.”
they can have choice between him and Chip.
On topic for Cal week:
Cal looks beatable if we show up. Their only two-score margin of victory was 14 pounts over UC Davis. They barely beat a 2-4 North Texas team.
Their defense is tough, but the lack of offense should help us keep things closer than against Utah. OL has to show up and defense needs to shake off the last game.
Agree, their defense is legit but their backup QB was terrible.
I only saw them play hole who also has a legit defense, so I fully expect the offense to look like they do vs real teams and for their shit backup quarterback to be offensive player of the week after “finally putting it all together” vs OSU.
45-14 Cal
Thing is, they haven’t even come close to scoring 45 this year, even with the starting QB.
This seems like a low-scoring one to me.
24-10 Cal
They haven’t scored 45 because they haven’t played Oregon State yet.
Zero confidence.
Is their backup any worse than Luton was on Saturday?
Get ready for another backup qb getting player of the week.
For which team? Oregon State, according to Angry, is starting a backup QB as well…
The beavs should start the backup but that’s not going to happen. I’m talking Cal and the revolving door of offense players that seem to find their groove against our defense.
Cal’s D is as good as Utah’s. Pretty generous of you to think the Beavs score 14
I could see us beating Cal since it’s on the road. They did kill us last year, maybe the team will use that for motivation.
Don’t like new stuff. Still sporting goofy glasses, tight 1993 sweater, plaid polyester slacks, white patent leather loafers and a flip phone. Just might be the end of PBH if I can’t figure this out.
I can’t tell if you’re joking.
But if there’s something you can’t figure out just say what it is, and I can tell you, but it’s like 95% the same as the last theme.
Joking,,,, something an 80 year old would say. All good. Thanks for checking though. Feel free to delete.
I was hoping the the makeover would include a boob job and hair extensions.
I like the new theme. Looks really good.
On Luton. He did look like he quit on the last few series in the game. He was definitely frustrated. The speed of the defense was too fast for him and he couldn’t adjust although the O Line didn’t help. It make me think of the Seahawks terrible O line, but with a mobile QB (Wilson) he is able to make plays. I can’t help to think how we would of done in this game if Gebbia had started the entire season and gained experience. Probably wouldn’t of won, but I think it would of been a closer game. Also, I still think we play better with the faster tempo offense. I don’t know why we didn’t go to that in the game and give it a try. It could of thrown Utah’s defense off a little bit.
Testing 1 – 2 – 3. Works good Angry. The main reasons I would remove Luton at this point is simply to get the new guy (our future) some experience. The whole quit thing about Luton is something everyone can debate here, but where there is no debate is the step that happens before he quits which is how this guy gets frustrated to the point it affects his game… and we have seen this game after game after game. Utah is not the first game where Luton was pulled out because of frustration melt-down over the last couple years. I might get why Smith goes back to him… because when he isn’t frustrated and victim to himself he can actually be decent. But Smith waits to long during a game to pull Dr. Jeckel and Mr. Hide (Luton). I think at this point we call what this year is… a building year two… let the young ones get the experience they need to be good in years 3 and 4.
Cal wins easily 35-0
Ah, so you’re a quitter. Noted
https://tenor.com/view/iquit-quit-work-done-im-out-gif-6010956
Regarding Luton quitting, definitely was not a leader and wore the frustration on his sleeve, no matter what you want to call it. To me it was a guy who realized he couldn’t compete with that level of talent and mentally caved. Is that quitting or just weakness worn on the sleeve? I think it’s the latter and do think there’s a distinction with a difference, but you can argue they’re the same thing.
I think what we saw against Utah was a total team failure. Offense, defense, and ST all looked like shit. I don’t blame Luton for being frustrated when literally nothing went right (compared to UCLA where everything went mostly right!). That being said, there’s no reason for him or anyone else to quit half-way through the game. I too think it’s time to sit Luton in favor of Gebbia, this season is going nowhere and may as well prep for next year.
Anyone else feel like we’ve had a lot of tipped passes this year? I don’t have an actual number, but it seems like under Smith, we’ve a lot more tipped passes at the LOS than previous years?
As for Cal, I haven’t watched them yet this season. If what you all are saying is true about their backup QB being terrible, I’m sure we’ll make him look like a 5 star recruit come Saturday! Their RB will probably post 200+ yards as well.
Cal: 45-17.
PS: I like the new look!
Well he was a 4* dual threat that was Rosen’s backup at UCLA. Went JC then transferred to Cal. That said, he looked awful vs Oregon. So he’ll torch OSU this weekend. Book it.
Is anybody else receiving the updated posts via email after checking the “notify me of follow-up comments by email” box?
I’m not, but maybe i’m doing something incorrectly
I think it will work next time I make a post. It’s likely not working because I enabled that after authoring this post, in other words. If it doesn’t work after creating my next post let me know then.
Actually, let me put up a test post and see. Check for it in a few minutes. Just subscribe, comment, and I will comment back to you to see if it works.
Can you try it now? Should be fixed.
Testing
You come around here often?
Nice, it works now.
Thanks Angry.
I don’t know about the others on here, but the email push notices are how I usually keep up to speed with this site.
Although, now what I’m getting is a separate email for every single person who comments. It used to be that the comments would all stack in a single email thread dedicated to a specific post, but now I’m receiving multiple email threads, and the only time a thread stacks the comments is when the same person comments multiple times. If that makes sense?
Sort of makes sense but as admin I get different notifications. I do get one every time there’s a comment.
I made some changes. Maybe try now (unsubscribe if you can, then resubscribe). It will take some time to fine tune this and work out the bugs.
Is it possible the teams prep work this week will be more polished than last weeks due to getting thumped and maybe, just maybe the team “mailed it in last Saturday?” I know that’s most likely not the case, but this team appeared they could just roll out there and play a game.
Post-game interviews indicate everyone that things were clicking going into the Utah game, so that seems unlikely.
Also settled the will Jefferson redshirt question.
“No.”
And on that note, Bradford will redshirt this year and come back next year as a redshirt senior.
Still can play in four games. Should they save one for the bowl game:)
Smith quote yesterday from the local rag….
“I think he’ll play some this year but at this point it’s probably just four games,” Smith said. “He doesn’t just want to play in five games and call it good.”
Luton’s play reminds me a lot of Brett Cullins character, Eddie Martel in “The Replacements”:
‘The next Sentinel drive shows Martel run a bootleg to the right on third down and throws the ball away to end the drive. Martel played it safe and exchanged insults with McGinty on the side line.’
https://thesportsvoidblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/breaking-down-the-film-the-replacements/
I’ve never been on the Luton bandwagon, but I guess we have one thing in common, we both gave up at half time. I had plans Saturday and came back with enough recorded to speed watch the game until I caught up to live at half time Didn’t waste anytime watching the second half, the first half was the worse half of football I’ve seen in awhile. Lets hope Utah is the class of the Pac-12 or it is only going to get worse from here out as injuries continue to pile on.
I selected the flaming bag of poop icon after the Stanford game and then thought maybe I should change it after the UCLA game but nope. That game was a giant flaming cow shit!
This “Luton the quitter” debate is interesting. Where’s Jack when we need his perspective? McM was the ultimate quitter according to the master contrarian. I noticed the Fresno St. is in the shitter now that Marcus is gone. It seems to me like he was pretty damn good college QB despite him quitting OSU.
He transferred after graduating. He didn’t quit mid game, big difference
Tell it to Jack!
I wonder if he will answer a ouija board?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/nick-madrigal-won-minor-league-223422698.html Also luke had a really good game
How are you following Luke now? With his previous team the Laredo Morning Times was reliable, I haven’t found a new source. Tnx
https://m.facebook.com/verdesxsiempre/ It’s not the best, but I don’t have a fb account, so I didn’t join the lh support page. OOB, did you join that one?
I don’t do fb either. Six hit shutout, good news.
BTW: The lady who did the Justice for Luke site sure has been quiet, I had hoped she would have some updates.
Los Mochis sounds interesting. I hope Luke is seriously learning to speak Spanish. If a MiLB team in the US ever takes the plunge and signs him, it would be a major plus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Mochis
By the way, I was told Machado put in a crystal ball for Ron Hardge to OSU tonight. And she usually doesn’t bother with making “predictions” until she can pad her stats with insider info, so would imagine we’ll hear something from him in the very near future.
His Dad started following me on twitter. That is a first. Feel good about him.
Any word on Langston?
Hardge’s dad started following every beaver fan he came across on twitter yesterday. You can pretty much count his son as a the next Beav commit. Dad must be excited to get his son’s college paid for again. I would be.
Latrell Bankston? Aka Langston?
Nothing new. But I still think we’re a team he is strongly considering.
Am I right he has 1 offer? Shouldn’t be a hard decision for him. The Luton of CBs?
He had quite a few offers back when he came out of highschool. Some decent ones mixed in.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/ron-hardge-186177#school-interests
Omg my old age is showing. Yes, Bankston! Would really like to have him
If you have zero points at halftime I don’t understand why a coach, any coach wouldn’t try another option, especially when you have Gebbia who runs and throws on the run better. At the very least pull him for one series to get hi
s head straight?
It’s the same situation with our kicker. His percentage is terrible, so give someone else some kicks or just go for it every time.
Angry, I don’t comment a whole lot but I read every word. I agree with your analysis completely. Luton is either hot or cold. His head is either in it or not. He lacks the intangibles, the it factor, you either have it or you don’t. He has no touch on short passes, is inconsistently accurate. He relies too heavily on one receiver.
And, if you are going to rely on Gebbia for the next couple years why wouldn’t you give him more reps, even all the reps, unless you are playing it safe worried about injuries?
Not sure how relevant Mike Ashley and Sports Authority in the UK are to Pac-12, OSU conversations but this might be of interest.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-7572323/Mike-Ashley-calls-probe-dominance-Adidas-Nike.html
What? This should have been happening every week.
https://democratherald.com/corvallis/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-beavers-to-open-up-kicking-competition/article_39044aea-1c00-5a9b-80a7-cbb53af9cbbe.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
Added a “Dashboard” area this morning so you can login/logout there and also change your avatar there. Do you prefer it above or below the twitter feed? I put it above like on the old site.
I still think they should get a kicker from women’s soccer…
Cant get any worse.
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Just need one more person to comment so I can see if it ends up in the same email thread or a separate one. Any volunteers?
I’m your huckleberry.
Thanks Bandit. Angry, I can confirm that the system is now working as it used to(stacking the emails in a single thread after subscribing)
This site has better customer service than any site I’ve ever worked with. Including my own workplace.
Thanks, I think this will improve the experience for most users. Long live AB
Oregon State taking bids for construction of Reser West Side. Project estimated to start in 2021 and be completed by 2023.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2019/10/oregon-state-begins-the-bidding-process-for-reser-stadium-175-million-west-side-remodel-school-eyes-a-2023-unveiling.html
Nice, should give us a shot at the world’s largest echo chamber and plate reverb. Maybe we can use it as a recording studio.
Duane Eddy would approve.
Good time to do it. Cost keeps flying up get bid now. I assume all that have ever bitched none stop will make a sarcastic comment.
The continuous concourse will be a nice update. Right now the stadium feels so disjointed, being connected by various ramps and walkways. This should help make it look and feel more “whole”.
Would like to see drawing to see if the West side will still be single level, with boxes up top? Or will it be 2 -tiered seating with boxes on the upper level?
Reducing capacity seems like a no brainer. I think the inly times I’ve seen that place sell out in the last 18 years has been for Civil War games when both teams are good(not a frequent occurance)
Maybe Wisconsin was a sellout? I didnt attend that game. Point is, it’s a rare thing and crowd sizes nationwide are shrinking.
Curious also to see what they have in mind for the non-football usage of the updated facility.
“Office and meeting space” is what that visionary Athletic Director mentioned previously….
Maybe some dorms for football ayers like at other universities?
Maybe some dorms for football players like at other universities?
my thoughts exactly in regards to lower bowl level with a large skybox, similar to Memorial Stadium in Lincoln, NE https://www.wowt.com/content/news/Heres-what-to-expect-at-Memorial-Stadium-for-the-2019-football-season-558697071.html
I’m intrigued on what the visitor locker room will entail, and how this will affect the seating similar to the Terrace(skinny row of seats with open concessions in the walkway around the stadium to keep fans INSIDE the stadium to see the action live rather than on a tv screen like the East and South endzone. Also wondering how they will convert the club level into a Loge/Box seating area. It’s not like they can enclose the club level with the box seats right behind them. I would almost think they open the “Club area” up as the new kids zone where parents can take their unruly kids and let them run around up there inside? Who knows. All I know is, this has been needed for a very long time and whatever the architect on the project comes up with will be unique and out of the ordinary.
That should be Luton’s last year of eligibility, the game will have slowed down for him, his mechanics refined, and Beavers are going bowling!!!
Reduction in capacity, wtf? Dennis Erickson’s plan was to expand to 55k seats. Stupid Barnes. Focus should be on making better game day atmosphere not more luxury suites
https://www.bondbuyer.com/news/empty-feeling-at-college-football-stadiums-after-bond-boom
No major school has expanded in the last decade. With every game on TV attendance is down on basically every sport in the US. With OSU unable to fill half the stadium making it bigger would be pretty idiotic. The old side is getting pretty old and keeping up with safety upgrades maintainece will kill it eventually. Most universities are focusing renovations on comfort, accessibility, luxary options and multi purpose space.
TLDR: attendance is down and the old side of Reser is going to age put and need demo and replacement anyways. Smaller and nice makes sense.
Eggers picks Beavs by 4, not a word about Gebbia. He does highlight the need for productive kicking. Here’s a quote:
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/440885-352999-kerry-says-beavers-can-show-resilience-at-cal
EDIT: Whoa! This new treatment of blockquote is something!! Probably go over good with wannabeav (old eyes, and all).
Woh, that’s huge!
Eggers is very establishment. When McM was being mishandled he was all for it and just rehashing what the coaches said.
“Woh, that’s huge.”
That’s what she said.
Hicks Onu has left the team. Dude was very hit or miss, mostly miss, but there goes another body in the secondary.
Odd timing. Maybe he got tired of having himself get called out during film sessions?
Makes adding all 3 of Hardge/Wright/Julian all the more important. Hopefully 1 or more of them can play at this level.
Do we have enough DBs or are we going to have to forfeit games?
Whatever happened to Mason Moran? Is he still with the team?
I’m sure there’s a towel boy we can throw out there
Or Trajon Cotton? Or Jeff Manning Jr?
These two are still in the OSU directory. Cotton looked promising. Manning looked decent, too. How are they not better than the corners being thrown out there? Cursory glance this looks like another Smith personnel error.
Good riddance. Go be a flailbacker for an FCS program which is where his lack of talent belongs.
Let me guess. Oregon St was his only P5 offer?
Seriously. Fuck outta here.
My quick and lazy research shows Oregon St was his ONLY offer.
Kinda says it all if true.
OT: Ducks have competition for ugliest b-ball court. Dicks vs ducks
https://twitter.com/HydeParkSwag/status/1179918535285510151/photo/1
The key looks like somebody wearing an animal print condom, minus the reservoir tip.
https://4c448342d6996fb20913-fd1f9dc15ff616aa7fa94219cb721c9c.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/e4/2b/250447_4bf2f5f3dce44825b190ab4fa28128c5.jpg
Funny, i didnt even read the accompanying caption which said basically the same thing
Yes it is a bad look.
Omar Hicks leaving the Beavers and has entered transfer portal. With the pending commitment of the kid from JC in SF who is a secondary guy, and Omar Hicks desire to play one more season next year, I’m guessing he saw his PT was very limited?
Hicks onu was constantly called out on this forum for being out of position and missing tackles, I’d say more than any other player on D. My guess is he was told his playing time was going to get slashed.
Hafta wonder if JS thought the team was farther along than it was and could work around some weak links like Choker and Yoko Onu. Getting wrongholed by Utah may have made him snap. Public announcement of a kicking competition and a senior safety “quitting” half way through the season sounds like the coach cutting fat.
I just spit out my coffee when I read “wrongholed”
Wanna and oob, pretty good read about the mpl https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/winter-league-baseball-mexicos-cartel-country/sn-amp/
Excellent read! Thank you!
Like helmsley below, I wonder if things have changed at all in the years since original publication. Doubt it though, culture-business-narcos all strong and slow to change.
I thought Wikipedia made Los Mochis sound somewhat interesting. Alas, here is Lonely Planet’s take on it. https://www.lonelyplanet.com/mexico/northwest-mexico/los-mochis.
Do you guys want the twitter feed and other links that are on the right (bottom for mobile users) to be visible on all pages, including this one? Right now it’s only visible on the main page. It will make the comment area a bit more narrow (like on the old site) for laptop users.
Seems like it would make the pages load faster to not have it, and I’m starting to like the larger comment area. I’d be okay with it just being on the home page.
Agree with BeavInDE. Main page seems like the only place it needs to be.
Next you’re going to need an AB logo
OSU AD is way ahead of you. They’ve been commissioning angry beaver logos since the late 90’s.
At first I didn’t like the change, but it finally dawned on me to review all the recruiting stuff and THEN open the comments area. I can live with that.
I’d keep it on the main page.
Hmm – article is 7 years on – 2012. Same/better/worse in 2019?
https://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-cougars-football/2019/10/15/20916726/connor-halliday-tracy-claeys-resign-darcel-mcbath-cougtalk-podcast
Sounds like some GA style dysfunction brewing in Pullman. Yikes.
Whittley granted a sixth year of eligibility. That actually helps a lot for next year, especially if he keeps weight off during the off season.
Good news. I never understood why he was considered a senior in the first place. According to his Bio he played 2017 and 2018 at a JC and then this year at OSU. It makes sense that he would have another year left.
That’s big, pun intended.
We really need to start building depth and with older players.
A report in today’s Oregonian says that “the OSU sideline was well populated by numerous football recruits for the Utah game.” “Many were on unofficial visits” which means they were there with their parents on their own dime. I’ll wager that Uber was experiencing major request overloads at halftime as they fled that shit show, never to return.
From your experience…, what kind of an impression does it make on recruits when you bring them in to watch a game on an official visit only to have the team get shellacked? I was at some of your games as a student at OSU and had the full game time experience, …. but I was already committed.
There is a difference between an “official” and “unofficial” visit. In an official visit the recruits time is carefully scripted and managed from arrival to departure. They would be unable to wander away during the game, as there would be some type of post-game function and they are chaperoned. The university picks up the tab for transportation, room and meals.
In an “unofficial” visit they put the kids on a pass list and meet with them for a few minutes before the game. The parents pick up all the travel expenses. Those unofficial recruits are the ones that I was inferring to wandering off during the Utah game.
I think the impression that a performance like Saturday’s would make on any recruit is obvious.
Smith moved up a bit on the hot seat.
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm
I enjoy that site, but some of their rankings are lazy. There is NO WAY Smith is on the hot seat right now. Check back in a year.
Then again, what criteria do they use? I always take it as “at risk of getting canned.”
The worst one is Pat F at Northwestern. As close to lifetime ontract as there is.
Eggers has a new Heimlich piece up.
Haven’t read it yet but figured some of you would want to.
https://twitter.com/kerryeggers/status/1184865326577545217?s=19
Thanks. Worth reading. Eggers has always been thoughtful and evenhanded in his reporting on Luke.
Been gone for most of the week, see some things have happened,
I don’t take much from the game vs Utah. They were better in all parts of the game, particularly in the trenches. Bigger, faster, stronger. I tend to give a small pass to Luton bc gebbia wouldn’t have fared any better. Still want Gebbia in the game for the sake of next year.
Quite a big bet to start remodeling Reser. I like what they are doing, in today and in the future, don’t need huge stadiums. I’ve said this before but look at what WSU did to their stadium. I would expect Reser to have a similar look. If beavs ever need more capacity, the south end zone was built to add a second deck if needed.
Hicks quitting is fine. Need to cycle out GAs guys and let younger players get experience.
Whittley getting en extra year helps. Still looking for some consistency from him. Making a play that really impacts the game. I really only see him make plays in non critical situations. If the jc guys coming in, play up to their billing, it’ll be a whole new defense next year.
Winning does help sell to recruits but the coaches are the biggest factor.
Are there any recruits out there that are doing their own recruiting, Smalls did it a couple years ago, anyone from this upcoming class?
I expect a game vs Cal. If the offense can break through in the first half, they’ll have a good shot at winning. I’d say get to 35 points and Beavs win. Need to be leading or within one score at the half.
I was reading, Cals defense has allowed only 3 passing touchdowns this season. If this is true expect a continuation of the utah game as far as our offensive production is concerned.
If this is true, need a great rushing attack and a rushing option at the qb position. I know that idea has been beat to death. Nothing we say here matters if Smith and Co are stubborn. For goodness sake, at least try working Gebbia in on a few possessions before we are down by 40 plus. Can also try some quick outside passes that are basically run plays but get the ball outside quickly.
A team that plays great defense, coming off a bye week. Same story as the Utah game. Main difference is Cal hasn’t shown much ability to put up points this year, especially without their starting QB.
So it’s up to you, OSU defense.
go Beavs
The UCLA game created some delusion. This happens every year. We know the Beavs are bad at the start of the season, then they prove they’re bad in the first game or two, then they Dominate a bad team, then people suddenly think they’re better than they are. I haven’t seen anything to make me think we have a snowball’s chance in Hell to beat Cal. Get ready for ol’ Lucy to show up Saturday.
Wasn’t last Saturday Lucy?
All lucy, all the time.
No, last Saturday there was no Lucy. Charlie Brown knew what he was going to get last Saturday, so he just decided to fall on his ass without trying to kick the ball.
Should have grabbed the blanket from Linus.
There is not another winnable game on the schedule. There really isn’t one. Wazzu will probably be closer than it should be, but the Beavs will not win. I’m almost tempted not even to watch the first half of the game on Saturday mainly because I’m donating my time to my daughter’s school. Go Beavs!
Debbie Downer here. I don’t see a winnable game either.
I expect a game similar to Stanford….Beav offense gos nowhere for large portions of the game, which sucks cuz Beavs offense is much better than Cal’s, at least at the skill positions. Cal has better defense that should neutralize OS offense, and better special teams. The little things add up and Cal wins.
30-17 Cal
I think we have a shot versus Cal (if that bad backup is starting?). I expect a low scoring, boring, ugly game.
20-17 or so should be the final.
Don’t underestimate the Beavers ability to make bad players look good. Especially backup QBs.
Were like the Oprah Winfrey of college football. You get a player of the week and you get a player of the week, everyone gets player of the week.
That sounds entertaining
Beav picked up a baseball commit today. Rated as #5 overall player in 2021 class and #1 overall in Cali by Perfect Game, Tyree Reed
What is the likelihood that a guy with that type of rating will ever play the college game? Just curious, i dont really follow baseball recruiting.
https://twitter.com/PerfectGameUSA/status/1184958535349817344?s=19
Looking at 2018, Nander de Sedas was the #4 overall prospect, ended up at Florida State. Cole Wilcox was #6, enrolled at Georgia. Kumar Rocker was #9 and ended up enrolling at Vanderbilt.
That’s the only three in the top 10.
It all depends on how serious they are about getting an education. Have the kid talk to Nick, Adley, Trevor, etc.
Kid looks to be guy to build a team around, like those guys. Great work by Mitch.
Alton Julian has decommitted from Colorado.
Wasn’t that days ago?
Was it? Oregonlive just posted it 2 hours ago, which means it probably did happen days ago.
He announced it publicly in a tweet yesterday.
I’m still standing by my Monday prediction. Of the visitors we hosted last week, we should land all 3 of Hardge/Julian and Wright, and I also think Overman will be a Beav, a little later down the road.
That’s what I’m reading too although wasn’t aware of Overman.
First domino fell tonight with Hardge announcing his verbal commitment(see twitter feed)
These guys are better that what we have?
Not a high threshold to reach.
Espn 3 star out of high school. He’s gained an inch and 40-50 lbs so CE that ranking. I assume 2 years of college improved technique some. If nothing else these guys will increase depth and competition.
Edit: has gained 10 lbs not 40-50.
He weighs 175 now. He weighed 125 coming out of HS? Sounds like a Riley recruit.
First NCAA athlete to come out of Ethiopia.
Woops, I read 215 on a rb and my delerious 5 am brain put it on hardge lolol. He was 167 out of hs
How did he gain the inch….Extenze?
Imprressive if so, wish I could double up with a pill.
Hardge, Extenze…there’s gotta be another joke in there somewhere…
Just curious: how do you see this as part of a domino effect?
See the comment I posted 2 messages above the domino one
Hard to believe but I watched second half of Utah game. I only watched 1st half live and was curious with the “Luton quit/bad body language” comments. Trust me, not a Luton fan but didn’t see the same thing others saw. Just a really bad team with a bad qb but body language didn’t look that bad and hard to say he quit IMO. That said, while it was small sample size with Gebbia, didn’t see anything that leads me to believe Luton doesn’t give us best chance against Cal. Just hope to see short leash if we sputter early… which I expect. I think Cal is solid and will jump on us early. Could be an opportunity to catch a spark with G and usher in new era… sound familiar Coach Smith?
I don’t know or care who is better. All I know is at 42-0 at the half you might as well give the kid coming back next year a bit of run with the 1’s against the other teams 1’s. Sure he will learn on the job next year but having an entire year to process and build on actual real starters vs. starters game experience is way more valuable than a 1 in a trillion shot at coming back from down 42-0 at half.
UCLA bearing Stanford on the farm. How the fuck did the Beavs lose to those jokers?!?!? ?
There’s no transitive property in football, and every week is a blank slate.
Easy…..Beavs offense shows up for two halfs and win.
Recruiting on twitter is funny. Canham lands a consensus top 5 baseball player and the reaction from fans is mostly “meh”.
Same evening we land a JC bounceback, previously from Illinois, and people are jacked.
Nothing against the football guy, but imagine if the sports were flipped and we landed a top 5 football player? People would lose their f’ing minds.
Oh like when we thought the kid whom I shall not name from usc would be coming??
I’m holding back my excitement until he is on campus and doesn’t go pro straight outta high school.
Yeah, too many options in baseball. He could come, he could go pro, he could get snipped by Yeskie.
Small sample size but I’m thinking Canham snd his charisma will be good recruiters.
Wow, UCLA beat Tree.
Stanford’s 3rd string qb couldn’t throw the ball. They had less than 150 yards of offense I think it was for the night (or maybe that was just passing) but either way not good. I am very glad we didn’t have to play UCLA with DTR as their qb.
Listened to the game over the net; anyone who complains about the Beavs broadcast and Parker “ain’t heard nothin’ yet!”
Even after the late QB announcement by Shaw, Vegas still had Tree to win by 4. What does angry always say about the fallacy of believing in “experts”?
Tree’s total O was 198yds, 143 passing and 55 on the ground.
I also say there’s no transitive property in football. Because OSU beat UCLA, and Stanford beat OSU, that does not mean Stanford beats UCLA. People make this error all the time. Each game is determined by specific matchup advantages/disadvantages and who came out mentally prepared/ready to play. The Stanford QB was clearly a huge matchup disadvantage in this case. Probably others, too, that determined the outcome. Cal/OSU will have matchup advantages and disadvantages, so it’s not a given Cal pummels OSU. I think it should be close.
McKalk, I know you were upset Tim Cook never got a shot at OSU, but I just read he went on to become CEO of Apple. Not a bad gig.
I think you mixed Tim Cook up with Tim Apple
McKalk – I was upset, too. I have forgotten which year it was into Andersen’s Folly, who was out injured, and who the Beavs played (I assume they lost) when Tim Cook ran for more than 100 yards. Rarely to be seen again. I’m glad he had a shot at the NFL.
I know, he did alright! I wasn’t that upset, but he looked like a stud against the Huskies and then was almost not heard from again. Interestingly enough, I saw his name yesterday, he was drafted by the XFL. I don’t remember which team.
Final word (for this year) from Andrea Aquino. Chances seem overwhelming against her ever playing for Beavs WBB; still, she is an energetic and enthusiastic force.
https://twitter.com/andrea_aquino6/status/1184858344432865280
That sucks, her illness? Injury? Must be significant if shes not clear going into year 2.
Has to be the heart issue. She practices with the team but I’d have to guess her participation isn’t strenuous.
After Chai Baker and Fred Thompson, OSU should have pretty strict guidance on when an athlete can play with a heart issue.
But if she ever does get cleared, she’ll get a sixth year easy.
I heard, or read, that it has to do with her joints…
My brother, whom I’m extremely close with, might have pancreatic cancer. Biopsy Monday, but it sounds like that’s what it is. This is devastating, so I might not be around. Going to need people to handle the site maybe for a while.
Your perspective is right, family first. Your presence and concern will be a comfort to your brother.
Sorry to hear that, Angry. Hoping for the best possible prognosis and outcome for your brother.
Thanks.
I was just talking to my lady about how I feel I’m getting into the difficult years of life where people around me are aging and showing their mortality, etc. That was about a month ago. My brother is one of two people I can talk to anything about and we talk daily and have been super close since childhood, so it’s going to be brutal to lose a rock and foundational piece. I’m hoping for some miracle diagnosis but preparing mentally for the more realistic one.
Can someone handle the game thread this weekend? I’m not in the mood to write about sports.
That sucks Angry. Not much anyone can say to help but everyone around you is sending supportive vibes.
Pop the game thread up and I’m sure we will bumble through.
Gotcha covered. I’ll plan to post a game thread late tonight or very early Saturday.
Thanks. I actually just went ahead and made a very short post and scheduled it for 11:30 tomorrow. Just double check it posts at that time. If not you can go in and edit the time or make a new post.
Sorry to hear that and I hope for the best.
Best wishes man…. hoping it’s just a scare.
God be with you all. Everyone here, and Jack’s ghost, are pulling for good news to come out of this.
Thoughts and prayers are with you. My mother-in-law has two different slow-developing cancers and other ailments but is hanging in there. But it was a jolt to me the other night when she wanted to attend one of my boys away soccer games and said she just didn’t have the energy to walk the 50 yards from the car to the field.
Oh man I’m so sorry to hear that. Best wishes to you and your family.
Prayers for your brother and your family.
Sorry man, hoping the biopsy comes back with more positive results than you’re anticipating. Let me know if I can do anything to help.
Sorry to hear it Angry — your priorities are in the right place — we’ll still be here, and hoping for the best possible outcome.
PHIL STEELE REPORT (WEEK 7):
#56 Oregon State at #59 California
California has won 4 of the past 5 meetings, including a year ago where RB Patrick Laird ran for 193 yards in the easy 49-7 victory (Cal 539-241 yds). LTH the Beavers went into Berkeley and fell 37-23 (+7’) to the Golden Bears who got a career-best 214 rushing yards from RB Patrick Laird (Cal 34-18 FD & 475-299 yd edges). Cal is fresh off a bye and OSU plays for a 4th straight week but Laird is gone this year. Wilcox is 0-6-1 ATS as a HF the last 2 years. Smith is 5-3 ATS as an AD including an upset of UCLA. Cal has faced the tougher schedule (#19 vs #39) but is -42 ypg and OSU is actually +19 ypg. With Devon Modster (47% 1-3) at QB Cal has produced 250 ypg and 12 ppg. OSU QB Jake Luton is hitting 62% with a 14-1 ratio. RB Artavis
Pierce has rushed for 482 (7.5) and Jermar Jefferson for 296 (5.3).
FORECAST: CALIFORNIA 31 OREGON STATE 20
POSITION BY POSITION EDGES:
WHEN OREGON STATE HAS THE BALL:
Oregon State QB/WR vs California DB’s: CAL +1.56
Oregon State RB’s vs California LB’s: ORST +0.09
Oregon State OL vs California DL: ORST +1.43
WHEN CALIFORNIA HAS THE BALL
California QB/WR vs Oregon State DB’s: CAL +1.33
California RB’s vs Oregon State LB’s: CAL +0.48
California OL vs Oregon State DL: ORST +0.03
MISCELLANEOUS:
Special Teams: ORST +2.09
Kicking: CAL +1.27
Coaching: CAL +1.25
POSITIONAL EDGE AWARDED TO: CAL +2.25
Team Stats (ORST-CAL)
Projected Rushing: 147-187
Projected Passing: 188-219
Projected Yardage Total: 335-406
Projected Final Score: 19-31
Experience Rankings: 7-93
Team Schedule Strength: 40-19
Las Vegas Line: California by 11
Las Vegas Total: 51.5 Points
+/- Ratings: California by 9.8
Game Grade: California by 6.0
Computer Yards: California 406-335
Computer Points: California 31-19
OT….https://www.gazettetimes.com/news/osu-may-cut-ties-with-state-police-ray-slams-arrest/article_5842ae0a-6c78-5b30-b492-3d151c3579eb.html#tracking-source=home-breaking
I’ve never been ashamed of my Alma Mater until Ray’s words on this… Even in today’s outrage “Cancel Culture” his take is insane. I’m truly disgusted by his statement.
Yes she was riding her bike on the wrong side of the road…. and there’s a 99% chance that it would’ve been left at that if she just did what the officer asked. She’s a victim of her own stupidity and that’s about it.
Racist!
Kinding, actually that’s the most intelligent thing you’ve posted on this site.
The time to have the fight is in court. Not on the side of the road. It’s pretty simple.
I don’t understand this “fuck the police” completely disrespectful attitude towards police. In my experience if you’re polite and comply when asked, it usually doesn’t end poorly for you.
They have a job to do. Let them.
Don’t want to be accosted by the police? Don’t break the law. It’s a pretty easy and simple way to live life. Been doing it myself for many years.
Ray and this woman are 100% in the wrong. But my suspicion says in this day and age it’ll get dropped because they’re afraid of the backlash this will cause.
And shame on the media for continuing to support and publish this “all cops are evil and have a bias towards minorities” bullshit.
As stated above, this whole situation could have been avoided by…..
1. Riding on the proper side of the road.
2. Giving identification when asked.
3. Have your day in court.
ANY of those 3 options and the whole situation is avoided. This dumb twatsicle escalated the entire situation.
She’s been watching too many videos on fakebook. The cop had probable cause to pull her over and ask to see her ID. That means she has to do it. If she actually hadn’t been doing anything wrong then she has the right to ask if she’s being detained. If she’s not then she can legally go about her business. If you decide to pull this kind of stuff you need to know your rights and the laws. Otherwise, this happens.
That said, were there 10000000000000000 other more protect/serve things that cop could and should have been doing? Absolutely. This whole thing was stupid and avoidable and a massive waste of everybody’s time.
“ That said, were there 10000000000000000 other more protect/serve things that cop could and should have been doing? Absolutely. This whole thing was stupid and avoidable and a massive waste of everybody’s time.”
Your feelings about selective enforcement are invalid. If she was doing something against the law, she doesn’t have a leg to stand on. Period. End of story.
Dude that’s exactly what I said.
She committed a “crime”, as pathetic and victimless as it may have been.
My second point was that the officer pulling her over at all was a waste of time at that moment, and will now prove to be a massive waste of time and manpower before all this bullshit is over.
“My second point was that the officer pulling her over at all was a waste of time at that moment, and will now prove to be a massive waste of time and manpower before all this bullshit is over.”
I do understand where you’re coming from since I agree with you. This whole thing will get dropped.
Carry on
I really wish the bike rider had been Mike Riley.
For an educated person, Dr. Ray seems to lack common sense.
Hopefully OSP will be able to educate him regarding the reason(s) the trooper would ask for ID. Just a little thought on Ray’s part should have caused him to come down on the correct side of this!
Ed Ray is one of those really, really, book smart guys with no street smarts whatsoever. He’s likely lived a protected and privileged life. He’s what I call an ideological idiot.
Team shits the bed tomorrow. 38-10 loss
OT: BASEBALL……Per Kendall Rogers:
“BREAKING: Per the @NCAA, the proposal to add a third paid assistant for baseball and softball was officially declined to be revoted on this week.
The proposal can be brought back up for a vote in 2021, but no sooner at this point.
No sooner………..at this point. Slimey NCAA
https://m.facebook.com/videos/live/m/redirect/2651883468208292/?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FPgODLqz1ne&_rdr Luke pitching
I don’t know if he’s still in, but it’s the seventh inning and the other team has zero runs
https://www.flashscore.com/match/WfkDtDXA/#match-summary
Wrap up through google translate:
HEIMLICH EXTENDS DOMAIN OVER COTTONS
Guasave, Sinaloa. October 18, 2019 (Andrey Fuentes / Club Cañeros) .- Los Cañeros de Los Mochis managed to impose their conditions defeating Algodoneros de Guasave 2 runs by 0 in what was an intense pitcher’s duel in which Luke Heimlich reached 12 innnings leaving the return team blank.
Teddy Stankiewicz and Luke Heimlich held a great battle to maintain dominion over the hill with similar work of six entries without allowing annotations, but the Cañeros were able to take advantage of the hesitations of the first blue reliever to manufacture the races that defined the game.
It was at the opening of the seventh chapter when Bryan Saucedo climbed the mound and Josuan Hernández negotiated the base for balls and then advanced to second in a failed revolver. After an out Lorenzo Quintana singled to boost Hernandez and accompanied him with two more hits from Noel Cuevas and Jesús Arredondo, the latter towed Quintana with 2 by 0.
For the second of the series Rafael Ordaz and Juan Delgadillo could play in game scheduled at six in the afternoon.
PITCHING
The first to climb the hill was Teddy Stankiewicz who took charge of 6 without allowing races, connected 1 hit, did not give bases for balls and struck out at 9. He was followed by the defeated Bryan Saucedo, Mauricio Lara, Isaac Jiménez.
Cañeros beat Luke Heimlich by not allowing a run in 6 innings, connected 3 hits, gave 5 bases for balls and struck out 4. He was helped by Juan Lopez, Fabian Cota, Irving Machuca and Juan Gamez closed.
BLACKBOARD
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 C H E
Los Mochis (4-2) 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 5 0
Guasave (1-5) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 1
PG: Heimlich (2-0, 0.00); PD: Saucedo (0-1, 9.82); SV: Gamez (1, 0.00)
Box score:
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2019_10_18_mocwin_gsvwin_1&t=g_box&sid=l132
Play by play:
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2019_10_18_mocwin_gsvwin_1&t=g_box&sid=l132
Thanks for the report, the links are especially worthwhile.
Gotta love the Google translation; I knew Sinaloa could be a rough area but that “failed revolver” at second was a reminder!
A few things on the published depth chart for tomorrow:
CAVEAT: You must take this depth chart with a grain of salt, for example it has the now departed YokoOnu listed as the back up to Jalen Moore at safety.
-Both Luton and Choukair are listed as 1’s
-David Morris is listed as backup safety behind Shawn Wilson
-Avery Roberts is listed as starter
-Jermar Jefferson is listed as RB ahead of AP or BJ Baylor
-At center it’s Nathan Eldridge or Nous Keobounnam
At center I’d just as soon stay with Nous eventhough Eldridge, when healthy, has been universally considered the better player. Still, the center/qb exchange has been pretty smooth so far and Nous hasn’t been penalized much (leave that to Kipper!). Anyone been focused on Nous’ blocking?
How about Morris? 6″ taller and 16 lbs heavier than the guy he backs up! A sign he still isn’t 100%, I suppose.
And why, with a bye week coming up, have JJ ahead of AP?
Other thoughts?
(depth chart is page 32 of the linked PDF)
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/oregonstate.sidearmsports.com/documents/2019/10/14/191019_Oregon_State_vs_California_FB_Notes.pdf
I still don’t understand the JJ over AP thing. This isn’t like the Luton/Gebbia debate.
AP has outproduced JJ, in yards (503 vs 296), yards/game (83.8 vs 74), yards/carry (6.8 vs 5.3), and games played. If JJ isn’t 100%, they shouldn’t start him, heck, if he is 100% they should still start AP since he has been more effective. If JJ ends up playing and they lose him for the year on a more significant injury, all my faith in the coaches will be gone.
^^^^^^Exactly, Play the hotter players and bench the colder ones. Glad Onu is gone, poor guy couldn’t tackle the broadside of a barn — coaches have no choice but to play somebody else. ….JoJo Forest?
Beavs win tomorrow, Cal won’t be able to keep up points wise
Fresh off a brilliant pick of UCLA on Thursday (LOL), I’ll stick my neck out and say Beavs by 3+
Angry – Best of luck to your brother, you, and family. Haven’t read the site in a few days and just catching up.
Prayers for you and your family Angry
Yes…not posting often-but good karma your way.
Beavers win today as an addendum
Angry- prayers for your brother and family
Eggers tweets that the following did not make the trip to Cal:
Not on the trip with @BeaverFootball
for today’s game vs. Cal at Memorial Stadium:
@Munchie1_, Nate Eidridge & Matthew Tago.
So the discussion above on the two deep for today did,indeed, need to be taken with a grain of salt. Seems a positive move to get JJ time to recover, hope for 100% after the bye.
Angry’s game thread post is now up.
Just testing something.