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That was a really impressive series by the Beavs. At this point the goal has to be playing loose and playing their best ball at the end of the year. All coaching efforts should be on the mental game.

Let’s do Tuesday’s Portland game in this thread as well.

Go Beavs.

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    Turns out Mitch was a really good hire for this team. Took a couple season to get his sea legs, but he seems calm and confident as a coach now. On top of that he’s a great recruiter for OSU baseball. That combination, plus him being young and a guy who actually wants to be here has OSU set up to be a power in this conference for the next decade or 2.

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      Don’t crown him just yet. I think it’s still a wait and see time. The postseason is where it counts and we are not there yet.

      • I was on the fence most of the season and was waiting to see how the team handled the oregon series before coming to any conclusions. I think he did an admirable job already last post season in the Dallas Baptist regional with a depleted roster. Last year’s team battled back through the loser’s bracket and put up a fight but just didnt have the horses to finish it out. But they also got some good post season experience for some guys who are key contributors this year like Meckler, Dernnede and Forrester. Thinking that will pay dividends this year.

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        You can say a coach is good and is probably going to stay good. It’s not a binary we’re we worship him or fire him.

        Just don’t give him a disastrously favorable contract that gives him no financial incentive to give a shit cause he had a good year.

    • I’d argue it was less about getting sea legs and more about having to rebuild the roster. The time between winning NC and this year was a roster with left over role players from NC team.

      • The decision making, development, and use of pitchers is so much better this year. To me those are things that are VERY related to a coaching staff. What I like is this is a coaching staff that is will to learn and try things.

        • This is my sentiment. The cupboard wasn’t bare when he took over especially when one of those “left over role players” happened to be the #1 pick in the draft. Also a guy who set the record for saves, and so on. Still plenty of guys taken in draft after that 2018 season. Prior years under Mitch there were quite a few “what the hell” type of calls, substitutions, etc and I think that stuff got tightened up quite a bit by both him and Dorman.

  2. Agreed NB. Mitch is a homerun hire for the long term stability of the program. I’m guessing we may see some growing pains in the post season this year…although I hope I’m wrong

  3. Two part trivia question,

    We know only one #1 seed has won the title since going to 64 team field. How many times has the #1 seed made Omaha and how many times have they played for the title?

    • I’ll give it a go.
      I think the #1 has made it to Omaha twice….I believe in the early 2000s, don’t remember which teams. Played for the title once, and won — probably Texas or Cal State Fullerton or LSU…..early 2000s.

      • LOL now that I think of it….Can’t remember if the 2017 Beav squad was #1, but most likely they were with only 4 losses…and I think one of the Florida teams 2015? Or 2016? Was #1 but lost in Omaha. So that would be at least four #1s to Omaha….

  4. I am curious how you guys perceive NLA deals will effect OSU baseball going forward? Teams like uo could potentially buy an entire roster. Would we be able to create a corporation to fund players from alumni especially our recent beavers in Major League Baseball?

      • Plus, the dynamic that some of the best players have short tenures before moving in to pros might be a factor(?). Maybe a kid who looks at OSU and sees recent success of Beavers in MLB, and knows Canham’s pro experience, chooses OSU over another school with an NIL?

    • Baseball like other small sports will be an interesting case study for NIL deals. Casual sports fans only pay attention to it during the CWS, sportscenter isn’t going to show highlights of a regular season game, players are not as well known like football or basketball players, and there’s not much overall benefit to a school for a baseball championship.

      I am going to guess the most popular idea will be to fund the difference in scholarship money for the players. With a roster of 35 and only 11.7 scholarships to split up, NIL deals could fund the difference. Back of the napkin math, 23.3 scholarships to fund at about 30k per year, would be $700K per year. That could definitely buy a lot of players.

      How many schools have donors that care about baseball that much? I’d guess very few. And baseball has much more parity than other sports like bball and football. Much much harder to buy a title.

      • “How many schools have donors that care about baseball that much?”

        I wonder how many here would be interesting in contributing to a “collective?”

        I wouldn’t. But if i did, i’d probably want to be able to direct it to a small sport with a good program rather than football.

        • I would think OSU is a prime example of a school that would have “donors that care about baseball that much”. Frankly, a lot of our athletic department pride is now based around baseball, and has been the flagship sport for about 20 years. Vandy and some of the non-Pac-12 California schools also fit that picture.
          WSU formed a collective to buy a QB this year… but, will the WILD West days of NIL last?

    • I think NIL is going to be limited some because there’s a competitor. Realistically only super stars get life changing amounts of money in NIL (Let’s say 50k+ a year). Those same guys will end up with half a million to multi million signing bonuses in the draft.

      • Ok so your thoughts are that NIL deals will have a lesser effect on baseball than basketball and football. It’s interesting that gymnastics has one huge impact full NIL deal that boosted OSU gymnastics this year. What are there about 10 gymnasts while baseball has 35 on the team. If our strategy in the past has been to give baseball scholarships to pitchers might it be w good strategy to sign NIL deals to three potential first round pitchers to OSU to solidify the weekend starters?

        • Yeah baseball is unique because of the professional system with no real caps and the sprawling farm systems.

          Jade got a huge NIL because she caught lightening in the publicity bottle during the Olympics. Huge outlier.

          • Was Jade given money from a booster? I think her NIL deal was actually legit someone paying her for marketing purposes. Not like a booster making pretend work.

        • You’d have to pay a huge amount for a potential first rounder to give up that payday and go to college.

          Use Mick Abel as an example. First rounder all the way. He signed for $4 million. How would an NIL compare to that? Any school going to try to top that?

          The last pick of the 10th round gets $150k. Anyone going to pay that much for a 10th round pick?

          • Nope, at best you are looking at a player who wants to develop in college and improve their status in future drafts. If you can offer a scholie and an NIL to keep them in Jordan’s you might get a year or two. If they aren’t in on playing college there’s no sensical arguement for a first or second rounder to join up.

        • Did anyone ever confirm NIL was part of Jade coming to OSU? I strongly suspect that was just money she was paid for the “Olympic stars” tour and it had nothing to do with OSU. It just had to be reported under NIL because it would have made her ineligible otherwise.

          • She signed well before NIL deals. Believe it or not, she signed in 2017. I think she’s 21 now. Delayed her college debut until after the 2020 Olympics which got delayed a year so she’s a very old freshman. Academically I think she’s a junior. Guessing she’ll compete until she graduates in a year or two and call it good.

          • Nah it was just a weird at for her to get paid a professional endorsement deal without going professional and losing her ability to compete in college.

  5. Saw temporary seating for 238 people will be added to Goss for AZ series. Pretty cool, i hope they set an attendance record.

    • Made me think of Madrigal…hitting about .205 for Cubs so far, he was over .300 each if the prior two seasons. Not all tge way back from injury? Slumping? Both?

  6. Espn insider write up on Kwan.

    2. Steven Kwan, OF, Cleveland Guardians
    What he’s done so far: Who says contact hitting is a lost art? Possessing the lowest swing-and-miss rate in the majors, Kwan is hitting .309/.402/.444 with more walks than strikeouts. Those numbers are buoyed by a 5-for-5 game early in the season, but his ability to put the ball in play, combined with excellent plate discipline and above-average speed, makes him a throwback of sorts, a player who might hit .300 and gets on base despite a lack of power. — Schoenfield

    Predicting the rest of his 2022: Kwan already produces the most distinctive sweet of metrics of any hitter in the majors. He chases but never swings and misses. He hits over .400 on soft and breaking stuff. He’s dominated all over the strike zone — except middle-middle. His low exit velocities actually seem to be a competitive advantage. How do you predict a guy like that? Well, here’s one bold prognostication: Kwan will learn to turn on some of those middle-middle offerings and add a smidgeon of power to his wizard-like bat control at the dish. — Doolittle

    The long-term outlook: Kwan has never had great size or tools and was a prospect afterthought until a breakout in 2021. He’s always had an excellent approach and will probably never hit 20 homers, but now there’s mistake-pouncing power that’s enough to let his other abilities play as an everyday type. — McDaniel

    • ” Kwan has never had great size or tools…”

      Seems odd and poorly thought out. Are not vision, hand-eye coordination, and reflexes among the tools a batter needs? Those tools seem great so far for Kwan?

  7. How bout dem Mariners!? Easy team to beat. Robby Ray gets the start tonight against a crappy Phillies started. If Ray can’t stop the slide, then why did the Ms give him such a big payday. Just another game in 162 but tonight seems like a huge game if the Ms want to start heading in right direction. At this rate, they’ll be 20 games behind the Angels by all star break

    • I’ve lived in Phx for 6 years now and was quite aware of Ray while he was a Diamondback. Very inconsistent from year to year and I don’t recall anyone being sad he went elsewhere a year or so back. Was not having a great year at the time. He cashed in with the Mariners on one of his good seasons last year.

    • Was anyone honestly expecting them to be good this year? Would you look at the roster and be like, there’s a playoff team? Admittedly, I don’t follow MLB and the Mariners as closely as I used to but it took an incredible stretch of baseball over the last like 6 weeks or so of the season ( around .700 baseball and best in American league i think) to even be in that wild card hunt last year. Did they make enough roster moves in the off-season to say, yeah, we’ll make the playoffs and it won’t take an insane record the last 2 months of the year to do it. Maybe so and as the casual observer I am I just didn’t know about it but I’m not shocked they’re 2-8 in the last 10. Long season and lots of ball left to play but I’d be expecting the post-season streak to continue unfortunately. Glad to have grown up during the years where the M’s were relevant but given a 20 year post-season drought, how have they grown new fans? Or are the majority of the fans like me…aging and reminiscing of years long ago? The Kid! A-Rod! The Big Unit! The Sherrif! Sweet Lou! Edgar! Harold! Omar! Buhner! Dan the Man! Kevin Mitchell! (OK, the last one is for funsies). Sigh, anyway hopefully they can see some success in the near future but sadly I doubt it’ll be this year.

      • It won’t be. But don’t tell tango whiskey. He just can’t accept that it’s a small market run organization that just doesn’t have the capital or smarts to be a perennial playoff contender.

        He’s still stuck on the fact that they “almost” made the playoffs last season after guaranteeing they would. And somehow this makes his prediction correct. But whatever.

        They’ll be at least 10 games out of the division by the all star break and I stand by my prediction.

        • I’ll take the over on 10 games back by all star weekend. This roster is garbage but manager and GM keeps pushing narrative that they’re just in a tough stretch and they’re actually a good team.

          • I’ve been a fan for a long time and continue to follow them. We’ll see where Whiskey’s prediction comes out this year as he said they wouldn’t be even close to the playoffs last year. The talent is there finally but luck has been the issue this year. Logan Gilbert has the fifth best era in the AL and Ray is supposed to be our ace. They brought up Kirby and he pitched a great game the other night in his first career start. 6IP, 7K, O BB. JP Crawford just returned tonight. Haniger is still out, along with Ken Giles. Also, Kyle Lewis has been tearing up AAA and he’ll be up soon, he was also out due to injuries.

            Oh and your boy Ray pitched great tonight in the win.

            You can say what you want but it’s clear this team is a much better spot than any time in recent memory. Does that mean they’ll win? It’s hard to say until they are full strength. I’ll wait for that.

            If you haven’t seen Julio play then you are missing out. This doesn’t even capture half the things he’s done. He’s made some great defensive plays. But man pure talent and has elite speed, check out his inside the park home run.

            https://youtu.be/UCVGcryYOS8

          • Don’t get me wrong, I’m an M’s fan, just call it like i see it. It’s early and there’s youth on the field so perhaps things will trend up for them in the upcoming years but they’re…not great. Batting .230 as a team. 3 players over .300 and some of the future talent seems to be underperforming even as young players. Kelenic batting well below .200 and 3rd most k’s. Julio .255 with 1 hr and 2nd most k’s. Anyway, this seems to have been the same narrative over the last few years. Oh the farm system is strong, yada yada, this year will be different. And meh, it kind of looks like every other year so far. Start out good for a month and then fizzle.

          • I appreciate you having a realistic take based on the information you have.

            Also I should mention Julio is 10 for 11 on steals this season. He may be the fastest guy in all of the league. If you read below, you’ll understand why this guy is a future star.

            Kelenic is flat out struggling, once Haniger is back and Kyle Lewis gets promoted, he’ll be heading down to AAA, where he can work on his issues. Kelenic reworked his swing for no good reason this year and completely changed it, which was a huge mistake. That being said he is young and hopefully will figure it out.

            Julio is whole different story. Apparently in the MLB, when you are a rookie, umps will intentionally make things hard on you which is flat out ridiculous. I now understand some of Angry’s sentiment in how the MLB is rigged. The umps are also doing this to other hitters on Seattle’s team. Julio had 16 called strikes that were outside the zone, many of those resulted in a K. He’s literally being punished for being a disciplined hitter. Recently they’ve been calling it fair and he has been getting on base every night.

            https://pacificnwsports.com/seattle-mariners-be-careful-mlb-and-umpires-union-we-know-what-youre-doing/3/

            Kind of hard to win games when the league is against you. Already sucks being a Mariners fan but really sucks when the game is being rigged against them. Hopefully, this explains my optimism and why I think they are better than the record they are showing.

          • I found Angel Hernandez’s account! Didn’t know he was an OSU fan! Haha… And they are 3 back buddy, quit looking at the divisional standings.

  8. Oregon Live had an article today on Outside Linebackers. John McCartan and Andrew Chatfield (both Jr.) are the starters. Chatfield is a former 4* who transferred in after playing 23 games at Florida. I’ve always like McCartan because he has a knack for being around the ball. Both are 250 lbs so I wonder if they are going to have trouble in pass coverage. Also cool to see an Oregon kid (Corey Stover) listed on the second team along with Riley Sharp. Stover and Sharp are also 250 – we seem to be getting much bigger.

  9. Some of the regulars get the day off,

    Guerra, Trosky, Smith, and Dukart get starts tonight. These guys should be well motivated to play well tonight. They are playing for playing time in the postseason.

  10. Beavs win with a shutout
    Meanwhile, on 1 hit and 2 errors, quacks are shutout at home (3 of last 4, right?)……will phil open the checkbook, again?

  11. LOL now that I think of it….Can’t remember if the 2017 Beav squad was #1, but most likely they were with only 4 losses…and I think one of the Florida teams 2015? Or 2016? Was #1 but lost in Omaha. So that would be at least four #1s to Omaha….

  12. Wow, Quinn can really dial it up. 97 mph on the fastball. But clearly had some control issues. Should spend the summer in the west coast league so he can gain some valuable experience.

  13. Boyd’s world ISR says the win over Portland was enough to lock up a national seed for the Beavs.

    No one else in the PAC-12 has a shot at being a national seed.

    Ducks have to pretty much win out to host a regional. Not likely with how they’ve been playing and their schedule.

    Stanford has work to do but a very realistic shot to host with their remaining schedule.

    Arizona and UCLA have no shot to host.

    http://www.boydsworld.com/baseball/rpi/rpineeds.html

  14. Beavs will be in for a weather shock this weekend. Friday high is 97, Sat high is 101 and Sun high is 104. While Fri and Sat won’t be too bad as the games are at night and the sun won’t be beating down on the players but Sunday is an afternoon game time and will be at the hottest time of the day.

  15. Daschel has a write up on the RB position coming out of spring and going into the Summer.

    No mention of Lowe being injured aside from him being limited in spring ball. Is that injury news confirmed? Thought somebody on here said he’s out for the season?

    Also no mention of Jam Griffen’s role, other than he’s transferring in the Summer.
    He basically has Martinez/Fendwick/Lowe as the 3 main ball carriers and anticipates no drop off in production.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2022/05/oregon-state-should-continue-to-thrive-at-running-back-2022-beavers-football-post-spring-analysis.html

  16. What would a successful season look like to you? For instance if Beavs ended up Top 5 Nationally, win PAC-12 regular season but lose in a Super Regional would that be a success? Or is this an Omaha or bust situation? I would say winning the Pac-12 and getting to a Super should be considered a success given where we were at the start of the season. Getting to Omaha, even as a National seed is really difficult.

    • I’d say getting to Omaha would be considered successful, since the Beavs have never lost a super regional at home.

      I don’t think Mitch wants to be the first to have that happen.

    • If you get a national seed and don’t make Omaha, it’s a pretty big disappointment. That means you lost on your homefield.

    • Being a life time beaver fan has taught me the futility of changing my standards. Post season is success and happiness. Onaga is joy instilling and National championships are bliss inducing suburb streaking opportunities.

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        I think year in and year out – Omaha is the standard for the program. Anything less is a disappointment – some years more so than others. I imagine its like the Final Four is to the Dukes and Kentuckys of the basketball world – or the CFP is for Alabama or Clemson. But once you get to Omaha, whatever happens, happens. You’re playing teams that aren’t just good, but winning big games against other good teams.

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          That’s a recipe for depression man.

          Pat Casey took 10 years to make the post season (although 1997 seems like quite the snub).

          After that he missed the post season in 2008 and 2016.
          Lost the regional in 2009, 2010, 2012,
          2014, 2015. (Bailey also lost in 2019).
          Lost supers in 2011.
          Made it to Omaha 6 times in 24 years and 6 times in 14 years after their first regional.

          Obviously Casey was building the behemoth but unless you have incredible faith in Mitch, hey I think he’s awesome, even making the CWS HALF the time would be very impressive and signicantly better than a first ballot college hall of fame coach. A guy who you can say with a straight face and little homerism is the most significant coach for the game from 1995-2018.

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            That’s why I used the term “standard” rather than expectation. Fans should just be happy to have a great program. But for the program itself – Omaha is the goal. This year, next year, the year after. Its why they play so hard in the non-league games, why Canham will put inexperienced players in crucial spots in games – to test them. See if they can be counted on down the road and the moment won’t be too big for them.

  17. Saw Aidan Chiles just picked up a UW offer and has increased interest from Yucks. This is the qb from a few weeks back that had a great visit with the Beavs and I had expressed concern that as soon as the Beavs offered more were gonna jump in and here we go.

    • Odd that oregon routinely goes after 5 star QBs now, but then decides to recruit a 3* guy OSU is after.
      Probably more about stringing him along but i have no doubt they’d drop him for the next 5*/4* guys who smiles at them.

      • We have an advantage over those two schools, Chiles wants to be a Zoology major. OSU is far and ahead the leader in that department. Too bad the athletics comes into it too, lol.

  18. Apparently Arizona has been dealing with a lingering flu bug going through their clubhouse for several weeks. And will be without starting IF Jack Grant. He re-injured his knee last weekend against USC…….

    Just win the series. That’s the goal. This will be the toughest conference series on the road yet imo. A 4-2 finish is all they need and it won’t matter what Stanford does.

    The PAC-12 has announced the start times for the conference tournament. Seeds are still fluid obviously….

    https://xs.pac-12.com/2022-05/16-9%20Baseball%202022%20Tournament%20Schedule%20%281%29%20%283%29.pdf

    • Just keep them sharp. If we drop a few between now and the regionals it won’t effect us much post season seed wise. Keep the pitching rotation straight through the conference tourney and keep subbing in rotation guys as needed at the plate.

      If the beavs can keep their current level of focus they will be a terrible matchup for anyone in the post season.

  19. Interesting Dam Podcast from the other day. Had the DAM Analytics director on. Pretty wild all the stuff they track and analyze. Worth a listen. Think for me, it’s still about finding a good balance of in game “feels” and purely deciding based on stats. Without any proof aside from gut feeling, it seemed like last few seasons there was only stat usage and not going with flow of the game or how a particular player is doing. Pitching especially. Seemed like we’d have a pitcher that came in, struck 1 or 2 guys out and was dealing, then make the swap for the pitcher that had a 9.0 era because “stats”. There’s still difference between pitchers and what they bring to the table, but I wonder how much the lack of lefty arms on the team has changed the approach to swap guys this year. Think we started the season with 3 lefties, one of which is obviously Hjerpe and another is the freshman Case. So there’s still clearly pitches that one righty can throw well that another doesn’t so still that to consider, but with essentially 1 lefty to call on in the bullpen seems like the whole “righty vs lefty” decision is off the table. Regardless, i think it’s worth the listen even if you don’t typically tune in to their podcast.

    • Stats can be really seductive. It’s using past information to make a statistical forecast of future events (when used for decision making). It’s not a predictive guarantee at all. It can’t say shit about a single AB. It tells you what would happen if you did that AB for a set number (usually 100) of reputations without taking into account any of the AB in the 100 AB series.

      It’s a tool to guide thinking but it can’t be the only one. In sports understanding of situations, personnel, weather, emotion…etc are far less quantifiable data points that need taken into account. Mash it all together and you probably end up with more outcomes that you desire.

      • Seems like some of these “experts” want to rely solely on inductive reasoning, while having virtually little deductive reasoning skills at all.

        • An example of the nerds ruining baseball.

          Darwin talked about one of the conflicts he had with the rangers. Paraphrasing but he said a lot of the front office people didn’t play high level baseball.

          People aren’t machines.

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      Some analytics matter much less in college because of the wide difference in skill levels. And guys can improve over time as they mature. MLB players are more or less finished products.

      The story about hjerpe going to the slider instead of a curve all is an example of good analytics for college baseball.

  20. Another Daschel position report, this time on the DLine.

    Basicslly says IF Sio can find some consistency and IF Hodgins can return from injury, we might have a decent DL.
    Otherwise the backups are going to have to play above their current levels.
    Groundhog day. An OSU DL full of IFs and Maybes. How’s that been working out?

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2022/05/oregon-states-defensive-line-strength-depends-on-hodgins-sio-2022-beavers-football-post-spring-analysis.html

    • Does the DL problem exist with other teams in the Pac-12 or is it just us. Kind of frustrating at this point. We are like the little train that could… almost there, almost there… but never make it over the hump.

  21. Watching the Tennessee game tonight and it’s no wonder they have such gaudy offensive stats when they play at a little league field. Line drives that would just reach the warning track at most parks on the west coast are in the seats there. Melton would hit 30 bombs if he got to play at SEC parks

    • 320-390 vs 330-400. Not an astounding difference in your head but in terms of angle and exit velocity it’s a big big deal. Omaha is 335-408.

      TN fun fact, they have played 33 home games, 12 away games and 4 neutral. They have lost 2 games in all those categories.

      Top 5 homerrun squads

      1) TN 320-360-390-360-320
      2) Old Dominion 320-375-395-375-329
      3) Texas 340-370-400-365-325
      4) Maryland 325-395-320
      5) GTech 328-391-400-353-334

      PAC 12 top 3

      1) Oregon 335-400-325
      2) Stanford 335-400-335
      3) Arizona State 345-410-345 (dammmmmnnnn)

        • isn’t it 16 away, 8 neutral?

          If you go look at the SEC, you’ll see most of them load up on home games.

        • NM OOB, you are correct. I thought they played 8 games in Surprise but they only played a 3 game series against Xavier.

      • ASU is at altitude. Fences are adjusted for that. Arizona fences are deep too.

        A lot of things can make a ballpark a home run park that aren’t related to fence distance. Altitude, natural wind direction, weather, etc

        But that’s kind of a disadvantage to a team that is used to a home run park, and when they go to Omaha which known as pitcher’s park, it can throw off the game plan.

          • I know. I looked it up and Phoenix municipal stadium is 1,187′ above sea level. I don’t think that has very much to do with a baseball traveling farther there and probably has more to do with the climate and wind direction.

            I get the jist of what he is saying though.

          • You guys can just cut through the fuss by looking at air pressure instead. How far a ball travels is based on its exit velocity, angle and air resistance. There’s ballistic factors like the direction of spin on the ball and amount of rotation but mostly it’s just air density. If you look up average air density and prevailing wind at a stadium you will have a much more accurate means of comparing stadiums. Essentially it’s just air pressure, prevailing wind, distance to fence and difference between fence and home plate elevation. Some nerd could probably make a spreadsheet that updates with daily air pressures and tells you the best home run fields and parts of fields everywhere in the country for any given time of the day. Hell if you made it right you could even crest stats that handicap extra base hitting on a minute by minute basis compared to a reference field.

            It’s not technical work but getting all the data would be a real pain in the ass.

          • Several years old but this nerd explains it.

            http://baseball.physics.illinois.edu/Denver.html

            “Therefore a 380 ft drive at Fenway will travel nearly 400 ft at Coors, certainly enough to make the difference between a warning path flyout and a home run.”

            The difference between sea level and a mile high in altitude = about 20’. But it’s really not about altitude.

            Also…..

            “By the way, another thing that can affect the density of air is the relative humidity. It is often thought that humid air is more dense than dry air. In fact, it is just the opposite: humid air is less dense than dry air for the simple reason that a water molecule weighs less than an air molecule.“

            Couple that with a smaller ballpark and playing 2/3 of their games at that ballpark, could that explain why Tennessee hits so many home runs????

            Or the SEC in general????

            Definitely some interesting reading in there.

          • The debate would all be in the high models to use. There is no single model for turbulent flow or ballistic modeling that suites all cases. Even worse a baseball is going to love through several flow models, if you want to maintain accuracy, as it decelerates. It’s actually much easier with a high velocity object like a bullet than a medium velocity projectile like a baseball. It gets more complicated when you take wind into account as it forces some serious differential analysis if you don’t have a predominant tail wind.

            For instance if you are batting into an 15 mph head wind you are starting with an air velocity difference of something like 90 mph and then dropping through different models as you decelerate. Real PIA. If you are batting into a 100 MPH tail wind you may even be accelerating instead of decelereting.

            I’d guess if wind conditions are more than 30 mph it’s a lot faster to just have someone run a tape and measure the damn thing.

          • Part of the data challenge. To get proper air density data you need the current barometric pressure, quality (how much water vapor is entrained) and temperature. Air density would then take elevation and weather conditions into account.

    • what little of it I watched I wasn’t impressed with Georgia. At all. That’s a top 10 team???? Cause I don’t see them getting to Omaha.

      • It is a weird year. TN and OSU are the only ones passing the eyeball test. Funny enough the beavs definitely didn’t until post Nevada series and TN looks more mortal every game.

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        I lost interest in this bitcoin cycle when the halving cycled turned out to be false/coincidence.

    • I’m good. Had nearly 0 exposure on this drop. Just a very tiny position. Have some Coinbase shares, though.
      This overall market selloff has been interesting. So many good long-term buys here.

    • I never bought into the crypto hype, literally or figuratively, for reasons today’s WSJ editorial on the liquidity purge make clear:
      “Hundreds of crypto currencies have been minted in a flurry of speculation. Anyone can create a virtual currency, market it to
      investors and use the money as he pleases. While fiat currencies such as the dollar are backed by governments, crypto currencies
      are backed by faith in their developers. What could go wrong?”

  22. It’s game day bishes!

    Last 5 trips to Tucson have been a mixed bag………

    2018 – lost the series (1-2)
    2016 – got swept
    2014 – won the series (2-1)
    2013 – swept them
    2011 – won the series (2-1)

    Just don’t get swept and I think the Beavs will be fine.

  23. The Arizona series is the same game plan as nearly every series. AZ bullpen is pretty weak. Their hitting has won them a lot of games.

    Pretty similar profile to Oregon. One good starter and two good relievers. Everyone after that is a crapshoot.

    One stat that stands out to me is strikeouts. AZ doesn’t strike out a lot of batters. About 7 Ks per nine. That’s a matchup the Beavs are looking for as the Beavs are a good hitting team.

    AZ’s best starter is their Saturday guy. So that’s the matchup to watch. Sunday is a pitch by committee for AZ.

    It would seem in this matchup the Beavs have a distinct advantage in pitching. So a 2 of 3 is a reasonable expectation. Hard to see a let down after the Portland game. Guys were still very focused in a classic trap game.

    • While “their hitting has won them a lot of games”, the starting lineup has only one guy batting over .300.
      Only one hitter from the left side starting for cats tonight.

      Beavs have a big edge in stolen bases with 70 vs 31 and caught stealing, Beavs 12 vs cats 9.

  24. Darn. Mark Buchanan is the ump at 2b tonight, he’ll likely be behind the plate on Sunday. We know how sensitive he is to any perceived physical contact, maybe he is a baby about heat as well. Could make for him taking over the game Sunday.

  25. I feel like I’ve been asking this same question for 3 weeks now. Why is Fuchs in the lineup? Wheeler have a set back with the eye? Really don’t have anyone on the bench that can do better than .250?

    • Gretler is only hitting .183

      But at least he has a little pop with 4 HR’s.

      Being honest, outside of Meckler, Melton and Boyd? Does anyone else in the lineup scare the opponent?

      Maybe Bazzana when he’s not slumping? IDK.

  26. This ‘Cats pitcher isn’t gonna last much longer. Already at 71 pitches through 3 innings.

    4-2 good guys now

  27. Wow that was a weird 1/2 inning. Two outs at 3rd base? Got out of it with no damage? Take the outs however they can get em.

  28. Oof, gonna need some runs tonight. 5-3 beavs but cats has bases loaded and 1 down. Dorman leaving Hjerpe in. Only 80 pitches but he’s been off all night.

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    FFS!!!! That’s TWO errors on Dernedde tonight. Neither of these last two runs should have happened. This inning should be over and still a 5-2 game.

    I thought UA was the terrible fielding team? Baseball is a funny and cruel game sometimes.

  30. Fuck. You can already see Boyd’s hand beginning to swell. Almost looks like a blood blister. That’s gotta hurt like a mofo.

    • Crap. Left the bases loaded. Need a few strong innings out of Ben Ferrer.

      Hope Justin Boyd’s hand is ok. That did not look good.

      Tied at 5, last of the 6th

    • Yep, this relief pitchers is pretty good. If beavs can squeak out a win tonight when they’ve played a not so great game that would be a nice start to the series.

  31. Anyone seen any of these home runs from the OK State guy? Think he’s from Norway or something. He just mashes the ball. 512 ft bomb tonight.

  32. Fuchs with 3 strike outs tonight. Trosky in for Dernedde and draws a 10 pitch walk. Great at bat. Runners on 1st and 2nd. 1 out. Zona brings in the closer in the 7th. They know the stakes on this game for them.

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    Have em loaded with one out. Again. C’mon Beavs!

    and as I type this Brady Kasper pinch hits for Justin Boyd and strikes out on 3 pitches.

  34. Ben Ferrer has looked excellent. Retired all 8 batters faced. Can we get one more inning out of him?

    And scratch out a run or two. Please?

  35. Meckler walks to force in a run after the ‘Cats go to the pen again.

    8-5 good guys. Based still loaded and 1 out

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    Garret Forrester grand slam baby!!!!! 12-5 Beavs. There’s the knock out blow. Turn out the lights at Hi Corbett field

  37. Does Forrester’s grand salami makeup for lack of production for WISP earlier in the game…? Or another 2-3 runs make us square?
    Double digit runs seems pretty good….albeit late, but better than never.

  38. Ferrer looks like he’s running out of gas. 54 pitches and given up another HR and hit another batter. Still a 5 run lead. Need 2 more outs

  39. 12-9 final. Wasn’t pretty but that’ll do Beavs. That’ll do. Crazy game.

    Updated conference standings

    Beavs 19-6
    Stanford 16-9
    UCLA 15-10
    Arizona 14-11
    Oregon 14-11

    Still a 3 game lead with 5 to play. Get the series win tomorrow.

  40. When you win when things are getting messy, it shows the grit of the team.

    At this point in the year is where the games are microcosms of the year. This team dug down deep when Hjerpe wasn’t at his best. It’s a trait of a championship team.

    The announcers did hammer home a good stat the end of the broadcast. AZ had to throw 233 pitches in the game. That is an amazing stat.

    • “With the bases again loaded, pinch hitter Jake Dukart singled to right off of Long. Dukart fouled off six offerings before notching the base hit on the 10th pitch of the at-bat. The single drove in two runs to make it 7-5.”

      Six fouls….

      • Lots of long AB last night. That approach absolutely kills opponents in multi game series. Idk how Arizona is gonna field a decent BP on Sunday if they go over 150 pitches today.

        Dernedde (7 pitch walk RBI), Forrester (7 pitch salami) and Dukart (10 pitch 2 RBI single) AB were clinics in patience brings rewards. Those 3 AB were 24 pitches and 7 RBI, that’s bad for a BP haha. Awesome

        • I always thought that this was the key to getting far in the tournament. A team needs great pitching but more importantly needs great plate awareness.

          • You are correct. Unless you are just completely overpowering opponents it’s all about attrition. Our offense is solid this year but the way the pitching staff has developed makes me think we have what it takes to go all the way.

            3 starters that can go 80+
            Midweek guy that can go 70+
            5 relief pitchers that can go 60 plus (if Lattery returns)
            Idk how many that are good for 20-4
            A really closer who really like stomping a games nuts and slamming the door without so much as howdy doo

          • Nah, that place is brutal for power teams. I was looking up some general college stadium hr comparisons. TN will need to average 9 mph higher exit velocity vs their home field. Good luck with that.

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    A Beaver researching is leading the charge for efficient domestic hydrogen production.
    If hydrogen can production can be made 10x more efficient, what’s the downside? Seems like a no brainer alternative to petroleum.

    https://www.opb.org/article/2021/12/11/green-hydrogen-production-could-benefit-from-oregon-state-research/

    Already have my custom Pininfarina H2 Speed in orange on order.
    Go H2 Beavs

    https://images.hdqwalls.com/wallpapers/pininfarina-h2-concept-cars.jpg

    • Hydrogen would be awesome ASLONG as the electrical power needed to perform the electrolysis is renewable. Only other downside is runs in precious metals but that’s nothing new.

      • Right, precious metals are already needed for electric, so I count that as a wash.
        I took this to mean the electricity needed to produce large scale hydrogen can be 10x as efficient as current production methids. If so, wouldn’t the electricity required amount to less than what is needed to power EVs?
        Plus I really do prefer storable fuel and the quicker re-fueling process hydrogen offers when compared to EVs. That and hydrogen is performing well in cold weather climates.

        • It has lots of advantages. For large scale pairing nuclear waste heat and power production with hydrogen synthesis is one of the biggest ‘duh’ slam dunks in history that no one wants to do.

          Hydrogen storage is a problem. Essentiall the only way to keep it in a volume is multi layered tanks that are pressurized. Hydrogen fuel is literally just two bonded protons, it can leak through basically any single layer tank.

      • Most syngas is still producing CO, CO2, and CO4. Hydrogen it doesn’t really solve the same issues. There are carbon free syngas but they are not very exothermic. Carbon free syngas is worth researching but it’s not useful for reducing carbon on the same scale as hydrogen.

  42. Any updates on Justin Boyd? I just saw the pic of his hand. Pretty gnarly. And that’s before the swelling really set in, I would think. Gotta be feeling it today

    • Any updates on Justin Boyd?
      This is where AB can shine, plenty of eyeballs here watching for news.
      That said, I doubt we learn much more than him out of the lineup today with “testing being done”.
      If he takes BP today we can breath easier.

      • Talked to several doc friends about it. Here’s the treatment and diagnosis steps.

        1) X-Ray and check for fractures. If fractures everything gets messed up for return in less than 4 weeks.
        2) heavy ice and anti-inflammatory treatment. With a grade 3 contusion they may even inject cortisone.
        3) ultrasound to see obvious ligament/tendon damage. Not super reliable.
        4) Continue inflammation treatment and checking ligament (flexation and extension stuff and maybe more US)
        5) If pain and swelling is not improving after 3 days they would consider a CT on an athlete with a tight return schedule.

        But yeah they said they wouldn’t make a guess on return time for 3ish days. They did not recommend playing anymore this weekend as the risk of persistent injury or additional damage is high.

        • Looking at guys hit in the hand at the major league level,

          If the hand isn’t broken, it appears the player is able to come back after a week. Mike Trout was hit in the hand earlier this year, was out 4 days.

          If it’s broken, it’ll be a month minimum. Corey Seager fractured his hand last year, was out a month.

          He’s definitely out the rest of the weekend. No matter the severity, the swelling is going to take a while to come down.

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            Lou Gehrig was cheap and sold tickets. There was no benefit to taking care of players back then, use them up until they don’t sell tickets or die.

            In todays game it’s beneficial to give a guy 6 weeks to heal to preserve your investment and you know…not be an asshole of an organization.

  43. I didn’t realize Beavs are 20-2 since Stanford series loss. And that’s against really solid competition. Wow.

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    What’s the scoop on today’s home plate umpire? The ump last night influenced the game with his small strike zone more than I would like to admit. Could be lower scoring game if the next ump is more lenient on the pitchers.

      • Bet he’s better than the guy scheduled for Sunday.
        Mark (don’t touch me!) Buchanan, a name that will live in infamy for many Beavs fans.
        Same ilk as Greg Street.

  45. The past couple weeks I have been really impressed with the number of quality at bats this team has been getting. Every guy up and down the line up can chew up 7+ pitch at bats, waiting for something to hit and driving up pitching counts. Wildcats threw twice as many pitches as the Beavers threw last night. That is the type of play needed to succeed in the post-season.

  46. Tennessee falls to #2 RPI after dropping today’s home game vs UGA, they’re done for the weekend.
    They’ve lost 3 of their last 7 (including a W vs RPI 263 Bellarmine).

  47. Beaver softball lost the final game of the season against Utah. I’m not sure winning the series got them in. That ten-game losing streak with 6 or 7 one-run losses just killed them. I thought they were a lock three weeks ago, now I’m not seeing them on any projections. It’s always nice to see any Beav sports in the postseason.

      • Hard to say what we’ll miss about him the most; arm? baserunning? etc etc
        Bet Mitch finds a way to get him into a game before regionals, as a pinch runner or bunter. Keep him heavily involved for his own sake.

        Meanwhile, Kmatz needs time with a sports psychologist between innings.

  48. Beaver bats are lacking. Kmatz gotten himself outta some trouboe but Cats’ pitcher has pretty much been on cruise control. Fuchs still a wasted spot in the order. Really like what he did last year and thought he’d be a strong piece in this lineup but sadly that hasn’t been the case. Might as well throw the kitchen sink at the DH spot..

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    Beavs down 3-1 bottom 7 no outs. With the way the Beavs bats have been tonight, feels like tomorrow will decide the series. Cats playing with emotion, Beavs look uninterested.

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    Justin Boyd injury really stings cause there’s just too many weak hitters in the lineup at the moment. Gretler is a great defender but just can’t hit at all and Fuchs is very mediocre. Without Boyd, it puts a ton of pressure for all of Meckler, Melton and Forrester to produce or it’s gonna be ugly offensively

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    Just didn’t seem interested in playing tonight. K’s, error, no bats. Yeesh. Better bring their A game tomorrow. Suck to lose a series so close to post-season.

        • Beavs will be facing Anthony Susac who has an ERA nearly 5 runs higher than Irvin, so there’s that.
          OTOH they’ll also spend the whole game at temps between 100 and 103, no cooling down like tonight.

          Mitch needs to earn his pay with motivation and lineup adjustments. Expect Logan to C, maybe Dukart, even McDowell in the starting lineup.

          ADDED NOTE: Susac has 5 WP, 5 HBP, 10 bb, and 30 k’s in 39.1 innings, teams are hitting him at a .329 clip.

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    Beavs gifted a double, should’ve been an error, and that gives them 4 hits on the night. Can’t do anything with it and now it’s Zona batting in bottom 8th. This game is over and the Boyd injury is really unfortunate. Only 4 guys in that lineup hitting the ball and now you lose one of them. 3 errors in 2 games. Just don’t seem in the series mentally and for sure not today. Big game tomorrow to decide the series. Wouldn’t want to face UCLA after a series loss and then take that lack of momentum into the tourney and post season.

    • We’ll never know, and the experts didn’t make any comment, but it looked on TV as though that double to start the b8 could have been caught…..Fuchs playing for Boyd, my money is on Boyd on that play.
      Boyd’s legs>Fuch’s

  53. Mitch has to make Gretler a defensive replacement only player. He is just so awful at the plate. His defense just doesn’t make up for how much of a negative he is with the bat.

    • As others have brought up, there’s not much to worry about outside the top 4 guys in this lineup. Gretler struggling but none of the infield guys have been too stellar. Dukart usually around .250, Dernedde might be less than that and is seeing more split time with Trosky already. Myro had 1 decent game but otherwise fairly pedestrian.

  54. Can’t win em all. Tough loss but Arizona is a good team and we know going in Irvin was their best pitcher so the result isn’t surprising.

    Beavs are undefeated after a loss all year. Still 2 games up in Stanford with 4 to play.

    Get the series win tomorrow

    • Good! That means we are in the hunt for the title.

      But not a good game. Too many bad at bats. Didn’t go down fighting.

  55. What a weird thing to thing about. Don’t be the #1 seed but yet be coming into the postseason on fire. Beavs are in an odd a spot. Good loss? Probably not.

    • Being the one seed doesn’t actually mean anything. It’s just a mental game and changes who you play. It’s like breaking the 4 minute mile or winning through the loser bracket. The only things it really shows when a #1 loses in the post season is that our criteria for seeding is flawed or they hadn’t developed the ability to face adversity.

    • Good loss?………we won’t know, if ever, for a few weeks. But today’s effort, adjustments, and results will give a hint.

    • Well, I’m 3 for 3 on player predictions above! Blind squirrel effect ?
      Don’t like those black tops in this weather, a Mitch mistake?

    • Double play thank God. Smooth by Trosky. If he can hover around the .280+ range I think he’ll take the majority of the starts from Dernedde. I’m not seeing any drop off in the defense with Trosky. Also, Cats pitcher from last night had a career in high strike outs. Definitely an off night from the Beavs.

        • Just had another one to end the inning. These announcers seem like they’ve been all over Zona’s jock this entire series. Hard ons for the left fielder.

          • Maybe a good sign? Against the ducks they seemed weighted towards UO coach, and googoo gaga over UO first baseman Walsh. Maybe Canham is a talk is cheap kind of guy, passing up the ingame interviews?

          • Maybe he doesn’t give as many as they want but he’s given 1 today and I think one on Friday. Regardless, you can almost feel the pain in their voice when they have to say something favorable for the Beavs. Should mute and listen to Parker but it doesn’t always synch up right for me.

  56. Verburg comes on after Dorman leaves Jake in to load the bases in the t3. Two down. No way Jake should have been left in that long. 67 pitches, 5 hits and 5 bb’s.

    • Verburg whiffs him to get out of the jam.

      Whew. 4-1 good guys after 3

      Utah up 6-3 on Stanford in the 4th

    • Nice little curfluffle there. Don’t know if he meant to plunk the batter but that long pause definitely was intentional and at a minimum threw off his normal motion. Nice to see some spunk though. At times you wonder if they are awake out there as they don’t show a ton of emotion.

      • Agree with Creek, normal motion was thrown off by extended pause.
        Now, Cats pitcher yells at Fuchs after Mark Buchanan makes a call favorable to Cats.

      • Not sure but the pitch sure looked intentional. He wasn’t missing his spots during the inning. Maybe he didn’t intend to hit him but it was certainly sending a message

  57. Walks kill. 2 walks and a 3 run bomb. 5-4 now. Pitching has been living dangerously the entire game so far.

    STOP WALKING BATTERS! This isn’t 2021

      • I hope I’m wrong but this game has the feeling of the Sunday game vs Stanford where the Beavs got out ahead early then nothing. And lost 8-5.

        Again, I hope I’m wrong

  58. Meckler had a chance to change momentum there with Dukart on 2nd, not many I’d rather see in that spot. Didn’t work out this time.

  59. Just not enough bats to keep things going today. Really missing Boyd right now. Most likely a loss with all of the momentum going with the Cats.
    Utah imploding too. Sucks!

  60. Carpenter couldn’t find a rhythm, left in a couple of batters too long by Dorman. Thought he looked predictable with that fastball.

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    ANOTHER pair of walks. That’s 9 today.

    How many times has a beav pitcher gotten ahead in the count and to walk him?

  62. And Stanford has rallied to take the lead in the 8th at Utah.

    Looking like it’s gonna be a crappy Sunday.

    • Don’t really think the jerseys have caused poor pitching (especially right out of the pen). Still black doesn’t help any of our players.

    • Getting Boyd back will help, as will (hopefully) Pfennigs and Hjerpe getting their poor performances out of the way this weekend.

  63. Really suspect pitching for a big part of the series. Lots of well-struck balls by the Wildcats and then the walks today. Just one series, hopefully, they recover quickly.

  64. Not going to win every series but at least make it a challenge. Holy shit. They couldn’t hit their way out of a wet paper bag. Screw not hitting the Friday starter, they aren’t hitting the 10th guy in the rotation. It’s pretty sad how bad the hitting is outside the big 4 in the lineup.

  65. As good as I felt about the team ahead of the series – and I still do – this series was a reminder that it really doesn’t matter what they’ve done this year, how well they’ve played once the post-season starts – two bad games in 24 hours (like this weekend) and the season is over.

  66. Zona is a good team but the Beavs really looked like shit the last 19 innings. All aspects of the game were pretty bad. Several errors but also a lot of fielding plays where they had to hold the ball vs making throws to 1st or 2nd…just kind of sloppy play compared to their normal standards. Pitching kind of reverted to early season form with walks, location struggles, etc. I think one of the biggest issues though is the offense. As I’ve posted here many times, they are very middle of the pack in all areas of offense except for walks. We’ve seen this weekend that a decent pitching staff that didn’t give up free bases has pretty much shut down the offense. We also need more than the big 4. Devastating what losing one of those players does to the offense or when one or more of them have an off night. Once you get past the top 4, you could put the ball on a T and they still couldn’t hit it. Fuchs had one of his best games, went 0-2, but drew 2 walks so he’s more effective if he doesn’t swing the bat. Lol. Anyway, always a little salty after a loss and losing a series but with how we played it feels like we stole that Friday game. UCLA can easily take 2 and if we play the same as we did this weekend they could make it a sweep.
    My uneducated suggestion would be to put the damn film and analytics down and get in the cage and take some actual swings.

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      Thought the pitchers were grossly mismanaged today. Seemed like two of them pulled just when they were finding their groove. Carpenter should have been pulled sooner — free bases and passed balls will kill you every time.
      Arizona beat OSU at their own game. Be patient, force walks, next man up ‘til someone gets their pitch. OSU uncharacteristically giving a shit load is walks and then being impatient the rest of the game against Zona’s depleted pitching — seeing a lot of impatient selfish swings on 1-0, 0-1, and 1-1….
      Will need to regroup and pound UCLA at home.

      • Yeah, just an all-around poor 3 game stretch. It’s going to happen just not ideal that it happens at a time when we should be trending up, not down. Definitely need the UCLA series to keep momentum going into tourney and post season. Not sure anyone 5 hole on down and the bench should be swinging the bat at all. Zona’s worst hitter would be like 5th in our lineup.

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        Or they lost just lost on a day that was 30 degrees warmer than any game they have played this year and without their 2nd best offensive threat. Win 2 of 3 next week and all is fine.

        • UCLA’s last conference road trip they got swept in Seattle.

          Hopefully Justin Boyd can heal and get back in the lineup Thursday.

        • Well they lost badly 2 days in a row and didn’t look great in the 1 win on Friday. If heat is going to be a problem, then they might as well not make the trip to Omaha cause it’ll be hot and muggy there.

    • Win. Beavs still control their own fate. 1 game lead with 3 to play. Stanford 1 game back.

      Stanford finishes at home against USC. A sweep is very realistic for them. If the Beavs and Stanford finish tied, Pretty sure they’d share the title but Stanford would be the 1 seed in the conference tournament since they won the series head to head.

  67. I wrote before this series started that the UA series would be their toughest road series of the season. Unfortunately that came to pass.

    Losing Justin Boyd hurt the offense big time.

    Kmatz battled on Saturday night against their best pitcher and it was still a 1-1 game going to the last of the 7th.

    Pitching reverting to last years walkathon on Sunday didn’t help either.

    That shit call on Verburg by the home plate umpire today really turned the tide and fired up the ‘Cats when Verburg hit their guy with the next pitch. I wrote that it was starting to feel like the Sunday game vs Stanford and unfortunately that also came to pass.

    Heat also may have been a factor. Why on earth was the decision made to wear black jerseys on a 100+ degree day???

    Despite losing the series all is not lost. UCLA got swept in Seattle last weekend. If Justin Boyd returns this week and the pitching returns as well, sweeping UCLA isn’t out of the realm of possibility. But at the very least they NEED to win the series.

    Can’t count on Stanford dropping a game to help the Beavs cause. Take them one at a time but the margin for error is pretty thin.

      • Verberg tried to quick pitch which resulted in a swing and miss for strike three. But the umpire called it right away as Verberg delivered the pitch. And it was a quick pitch. Verberg never came set which he has to if he’s going from the stretch.

        Then on the next pitch, Verberg waited about 10 seconds in the set position before throwing.

      • He quick pitched and got a strike 3 swinging. Would’ve been end of the inning. Home plate umpire ruled it ball because he quick pitched and didn’t come set.

        My understanding of that rule is it doesn’t matter that he did not come to a pause since there were no runners on base.

        so, batter steps back into the box. I pissed off Verburg took a looooooong pause then drilled him in the shoulder.

        That certainly fired UA up and imo was the turning point of the game.

        • He has to come set no matter if there is a runner or not from the stretch. It’s explicitly stated in the rules. Technically it’s a balk. Seen it a few times.

          One way around that is, verberg could declare he was going from the windup even if he’s in the stretch position, then he doesn’t have to come set. Seen pitchers do that, but of course the batter is aware of a quick pitch now.

          • Relief pitchers pretty much all throw from the stretch in every situation these days. Pretty rare to see a reliever pitch from the windup.

            Ferrer and Brown both pitch from the stretch when no runners are on. I think Sebby does it too.

          • I actually called the Joe beaver show and quizzed Parker about it.

            You are correct. Verburg was pitching from the stretch.

            Still 50/50 on this one. Parker read the rule on air. Sounds like it’s an umpire judgement call.

            In the end it doesn’t matter as Verburg got the next batter. But my point still remains that Verburg drilling O’Tremba with the next pitch certainly fired up UA. And it shows as they boat raced the Beavs 9-0 after that point. Imo that was the turning point of the game.

          • I can only imagine the call in,

            “Mike we have a caller asking about the Verberg pitch, his name is Whiskey Soaked Napkin”

            Parker “Hey I know him!, from Denny’s right?”

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            Ummm, not how that went down. I used my real name.

            I’ve met Mike on several occasions. He seems like a good and genuine dude.

            But he’s never gonna live that down.

            We all make mistakes that will haunt us forever. Myself included.

    • All of that plus the Beavs coming in ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and AZ wanting to take them down. This gets down to the mental aspect of the game.

      And while I think players are responsible for their own motivation, I think this this a real factor. Think of OSU taking down #1 or #3 USC after losing 2 of 3 non conference games, or beating Wisconsin at Reser. There’s something extra in the focus and the play.

      I’m sure the coaches and players are aware of it though, and try to maintain levity and not under or overreact week to week.

      Hopefully Boyd can return next week, and wit3h extra seating the UCLA series will be an exciting series win.

  68. Updated standings…..

    Beavs 19-8
    Stanford 18-9
    UCLA 17-10
    Arizona 16-11
    Oregon 15-12

    Arizona finishes with 3 in Eugene in a series that will decide 4th and 5th, potentially 3rd depending on how UCLA fairs.

    Another interesting series will take place in Berkeley. Cal hosts Utah which will most likely decide who gets the 8th and last spot in the conference tournament. If Cal sweeps they’ll get the 7 seed since they’ll finish tied with UW and won that conference series against UW. Utah needs to win that series just to finish in a tie with Cal for 8th. The Utes haven’t won since they beat Hjerpe and the Beavs a week ago Friday.

    Unless UCLA comes here and sweeps, I don’t see the Beavs finishing lower than 2nd. Depending on how things break it’s pretty likely the first round opponent in the conference tournament will be Cal or UW. And the Huskies have been on a tear lately sweeping their last two conference series against the LA schools.

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    Beavers of late outdrawing the MLB Oakland A’s of late, who had 2,488 fans May 2:

    https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/The-Loneliest-Team-in-Baseball-17174689.php?IPID=SFGate-HP-CP-Spotlight

    “The team’s once-loyal fans appear to have given up.

    Why wouldn’t they?

    Their favorite players are routinely traded away for more affordable alternatives. Their cavernous, concrete stadium, while maintaining a stubborn charm for some, is decrepit and grossly out of date. The organization, meanwhile, speaks openly of its long-distance romance with Las Vegas.”

    I hate the way pro teams play municipalities off one another and use it to get new stadiums financed primarily by the taxpayers.

    Maybe if the NIL Glory Hole madness isn’t reeled in, and its strictly play for pay, Phil Knight will take his Ducks to a bigger market/stadium some day…”The Oregon Ducks, hosted by AT&T stadium, Dallas Texas!”

    • Money ball is literally about them doing an amazing job using statistics to create a team out of players no body wanted because they were too poor to act as anything but a farm system. The movie starts with them losing and ends with them losing lol

    • Agreed. And some of these other guys NEED to start stepping up. Or they’re not going to go far in the tournament.

    • 1-9 was bed enough, but Micah also gifted the Cats at least one extra base hit.
      Any late news on Boyd? Last I heard there seemed a good chance he’d be back for UCLA.

      • How do you expect Mitch to put athlete the opponents when their best athlete gets hurt? If Boyd returns, Mitch will be fine.

          • Boyd had a pretty rough series against Stanford and was hurt against UA. He may be the straw that stirs the drink. Mitch should shuffle the line-up a bit and get Meckler/Melton combo closer in the order rather than having easier outs between them. Boyd adds pressure in there that no one else has filled yet. Forrester is adept at getting walks, and some pop but he limits Melton on any extra base opportunities if he is on.
            I think they just ran into a motivated club, some desert heat, and a key injury at the worst time or they at least win the series. Pitching had plenty of issues with the last to guys behind home plate and that gnaws at a pitcher as well. If the rest of the season is an indicator, they will be fine, focused and likely win the series against UCLA, possibly sweep and march into postseason on a roll. They have won 20 out of 24 games, since Stanford, right?
            No panic yet. Panic if they lose 2 more this weekend and 2 more the following weekend…Hjerpe will bounce back, so will Kmatz.

          • plenty of issues with the last two guys behind home plate…
            Mark Buchanan strikes again.

            Agree 100%….Hjerpe and Kmatz will bounce back. And Pfennigs should be good for 5-6 innings as well.

    • So, Beavs are avoiding the curse of being ranked #1 going into the post season.
      Call me crazy, but I could see Dukart and Fuchs providing the down lineup spark we’ve been looking for; both had better plate appearances after the first game in Tucson. I know, small sample headfake.

      Still the key will be starting pitchers returning to form and the return of Boyd.

    • Another big body to fill out depth for next season. Dont know anything about him. Tjey had beeb looking for a backup C most of the offsason. Not sure if he helps there at all. I really havent looked him up before

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    Thoughts after a few days of reflection. A lot went wrong this weekend but a lot of that seems to be blips on the radar and not reflective of the entire season. Fielding in general was sloppy and not the usual for this team. Pitching had been consistent the last 2 months so not ready to hit the panic button there. Biggest issue I think is the offense and I’m not sure if it will be enough to get to Omaha.

    6 weeks ago or so I posted some of their offensive stats and a lot of them they were 4 or 5 in conference and now they’ve dropped some spots in all areas except for walks. They’re now 4th in runs whereas they were 1 or 2 with Oregon. They’ve dropped to 5th in BA and have slight lead over Utah. Outside of Boyd, Meckler, Melton and Forrester, there’s not much that scares the opponent. This team relies on walks and when they face good pitching like Stanford and Zona, you can see how stagnant it can be, especially if the top 4 guys have off days or injuries. UCLA pitching is really good. Essentially #2 or 3 in Pac behind the Beavs in most areas like walks, era, k/9etc. They do give up a lot of home runs but the beavs don’t really hit home runs (8th in Pac) so that doesn’t appear to be a deciding factor. So, they’ve got their work cutout for them. If Zona pitching, which trails both these teams in most stats, shut down this lineup, this could be more ugly than either of the 2 prior series lost. I’d hope that the instruction for everyone not those top 4 guys is to keep the bat on the shoulder. You swing, you ride the pine. Hell, leave the bat in the dugout. Anyway, big test here this week against a better staff than Zona so hopefully they’ve got a good gameplan in place.

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      19 runs in three games isn’t shutdown. Pitching and defense had a bad week so we lost. Ump blew the call on the strike out and Mitch plunked the dude and fired Arizona up.

      We’re fine.

      • Maybe shut down is a bit extreme but 12 of those came from 1 game. You think the big 4 are enough to continue to carry the team as competition gets better in post season? Not being confrontational by any means, I just think against better pitching and competition reliance on 4 players is my biggest concern. Didn’t seem like we got 8 hits on Sunday but 4 of them were from the big 4. On Saturday we had 6 hits and 4 of them were from the big 4. Stanford #’s were very similar…only 1 or 2 hits in those loses came from outside that group. Hard to argue with the success they’ve had this year so it might not be an issue…just appears that when we’ve faced good pitching and we don’t get free bases from walks, the production from rest of the lineup and bench is close to zero.

        • Nah I don’t think the offense can carry us all the way. We’re going to have to lean heavy on pitching which I feel pretty solid about.

          If our order was Meckler, Boyd, Bazanna, Melton, Forrester, Wheeler (pre injury), Smith/Logan, whoevers on 3rd, whoevers SS then I think we could get by on pretty crap pitching.

  71. Some interesting final non conference games this evening…..

    Gonzaga plays the ducks in Eugene. Ucla visits UC-Irvine and Stanford plays at Santa Clara.

  72. Nebraska DT transfer Taylor Lewis was originally scheduled to visit in a couple of weeks but has moved it up to this weekend.

    https://twitter.com/Taydotmoney_/status/1526673514320646145?s=20&t=H5bVpOuP2DP2CZNJ2Nsh-g

    The “man of my word” comment has me worried he already was waivering on coming on this visit after originally making plans, so we pressured him into following through with it.
    Sounds like several teams are showing recent interest in him, which isn’t good news for OSU. We dont do well with guys who have other options…

      • U love Beaver fans, but when our best recruiting pitch is “Make sure he gets some Local Boyz while he’s out here” it doesnt speak well for our chances.
        Never hears a recruit say they flipped their commitment because the Hawaiian plate lunch was delicious.

  73. Best to just flush that last series away. Credit to AZ for fighting all the way through. Beavs didn’t give up, they were just out played.

    Up next UCLA, another tough matchup but at least it’s at home. UCLA will be well motivated to play well. They are legitimately on the bubble with their low rpi. Lose the series and they might have to win the tourney to get in.

    Outside of losing out, Beavs are a lock for a top 8 seed. But no one wants to be backing into the postseason so this is a critical series for the teams psyche.

    • “Outside of losing out, Beavs are a lock for a top 8 seed”

      I beg to differ. Even if the Beavs lose out they’d still be 40-15. With the RPI, SOS and non conference SOS they’re a lock to be a national seed.

      Everything else in your statement I agree with.

      • They lose out, counting the conf tourney, it would be 7 straight losses. The committee does have some discretion.

        Dallas Baptist and Georgia southern both have top 10 rpi,, top 10 sos and non conf sos. They won’t be national seeds.

        All that being said, losing out is very unlikely. The series looked more like a blip vs a microcosm of the year.

      • This could be eerily similar to 2011 when they lost their last 5 and finished a game out of first. Dropped from a national seed to an 11. Won the regional but then swept by Vandy in the Super.

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