Goooo Beavs.
Man it’s a kick in the nuts that Smith f’d up that FG last week…could have been such a great ending setup for the season.
27-24 Beavs, but maybe not. Might still be a hangover from last week.
Goooo Beavs.
Man it’s a kick in the nuts that Smith f’d up that FG last week…could have been such a great ending setup for the season.
27-24 Beavs, but maybe not. Might still be a hangover from last week.
Should be a 48-20 win, but will likely be an unnecessary nailbiter.
Forget the stupid fake field goal attempt against Arizona. There was a whole other half to play well and win. The difference just happened to be 3 points. Not enough running, too much,’let’s let DJ try again.”
Anybody want to do another deep dive discussion on that play. Let’s have a milli-second by milli-second breakdown of where the play broke down, then cause-effect analysis on the season, ramifications and what to talking more about can do for our psychological stability. ;)
Beavs may have a fake fg hangover but the Prime Buffs have a jewelry hangover. They have been more occupied by their collective stolen gold jewelry than figuring out how to block d linemen.
My optimism says big focus bounce back by the Beavs leads to a 48-24 win.
My skeptical side says JS hasn’t learned anything and we are in for more heartburn 45-42 Beavs
My despairing aide knows it could easily be a defensive call lapse by the Beavs and the game gets out of hand by halftime…45-28 Buffs
I’ll go optimistic but cautioned by my skepticism
Beavs are practicing the Fumblerooski at this moment.
Fumblerooski is a proven winner, with situational awareness….
Crap!
Get through this week with a W, and I’m still somewhat confident we can go into the Civil War with a shot at the PAC-12 title game. This has been a completely different team on the road compared to home over the last 3 years.
It’s very possible.
But some decisions make it sketchy, if the coaches continue them.
We need to march into the stadium with control, and then we need to back it up.
My crystal ball says the Beavs D will get into the backfield a lot today, but they will over-pursue and let Sanders pick up big chunks of yardage with his legs. Buffs D will stack the box to prevent the run, and of course we will submit and force DJ to win with his arm, but the altitude fucks up his accuracy. Beavs lose another winnable game on the road and drop out of the top 25. Beaver fans are slapped back into the reality that the MWC is our destiny.
Prove me wrong, Beavs.
This is altogether too plausible. Not looking forward to the game because this seems more likely than a Beavers dominant win.
Still think the Beavs have 2, possibly 3 more losses in ‘em. One may be tonight.
They need this win so badly tonight. I seriously doubt a win vs UW (despite being in Corvallis) and Yucks will score a lot with bucky and Franklin.
Go Beavs!
Damn KState coug’n it.
Not so fast my friend!
College football coaches are insane, none have a few for basic conservative strategy. KSt coach is a fool like so
Many others.
2nd and goal at the 6 yd line. 3 straight incomplete passes for the loss. Wow.
It was actually from the 4 yd line. But your point still stands.
You are correct
K-State sure blew that lay-up
Nice to see Notre Dame lose
Sounds like Dabo’s rant got them fired up. They’re not a bad team, they played FSU tough. It just wasn’t all DJ’s fault that they are no longer a playoff-caliber team.
This game will be a real test for the program. The psychological damage from the AZ debacle is significant IMO. Beavs do still control their own destiny though so the season is still salvageable. If they don’t get the win tonight though, I think we’ll be approaching full meltdown mode.
Fortunately Colorado is lousy.
Just run the ball and it will all work out. Play like you expect a shootout and that’s what you will get. No less than 30 running plays with Martinez getting 20-25 touches.
Gotta incorporate the kicker dive play. It’s a staple of the playbook now
WTF, Air Force is trailing Army by 20 points after almost three quarters. They have a lot on the line and it’s slipping away.
https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/coaches-under-consideration-at-msu-dickert-smith-leipold-clawson
So it begins
It began a long time ago.
Well, Sparty beat #TPB today, so there is that.
If Smith takes the MSU job he really is dumber than I thought. That entire institution is a complete dumpster fire. Smith absolutely could hold out for something better than that based on his current reputation (unless the fake fg idiocy metastasizes).
So what teams do we need to lose going forward? Hole, ucla, usc ?
We’re big USC, UCLA, and Utah fans. If they can take out Washington, Oregon, and Arizona down the stretch and the Beavs win out, they’ll end up in the P12 title game against USC or Washington because of tie-breakers over Utah/UCLA.
I have a good feeling about USC tonight.
Wouldn’t it work pretty good if Washington won and went undefeated except against us and then we’d have a rematch in the championship?
Last week threw me into such a bummer. I’m just not confident with this team even though I believe they have the tools to succeed. My concern for tonight is we never seem to do well against a good QB threat. I’ve watched Sanders this year. I think the kid is legit and is why they have had any success this year. He takes a beating but keeps on going. The key tonight is to take away his options then put a spy on him to stop him from running away from us. The game rest on our defense.
I know he’s mobile and been sacked a lot but he’s still about negative 86 yards on the season. I haven’t watched them hardly but seems more of a threat to run but not actually run too much but that is just off of stats.
Officiating helping ucks again this week. Terrible PI call against Cal gives ucks TD
No surprise. Same thing in Georgia game, and Texas game.
The Chosen programs will continue to get the calls or non calls in critical situations.
Ya saw that. The teams with a shot at the playoffs are going to get the calls.
I don’t think the refs helped that much, they scored 44 more points than Cal.
Road woes continue….
Jewelry-Less Colorado lighter and harder to tackle fired up at home
In the Buff Buffs 28 – Beavs 27
Wouldn’t we rather want UW to beat USC rather than USC beat UW? If UW wins tonight, and we by some miracle win out, then we’d rematch them in the conference title game.
No because fuck Washington
3 teams ahead of the Beavs already lost today: NotreDame/Mizzou/Oklahoma
Either Alabama or LSU are also guaranteed to lose. Beavs could puck up 4 spots potentially with a convincing win today and be around 12.
Gotta keep winning for bowl status
And a shot at the championship!
Cal player appears to be hurt extremely badly. Been down for multiple commercial breaks and hasn’t moved once.
I didn’t get to watch last game (why we lost). Looks like Smith’s terrible fake Fg call and field position were the differences in the game. I could only watch the highlights which don’t tell the story but I saw multiple punt returns to set them up with a short field. I saw the bad roughing the passer call. The fake fg play was a wasted good play that would’ve worked in the right situation. Instead of using it on a fg try that isn’t the last play of the half and with appropriate distance to the first down marker he calls it way to far and is the last play. It’s just and inexcusable call there that cost them the game. Looking at the stats we should’ve won.
Moving onto Colorado I hope we see them bounce back like they did against Utah. Im more nervous about this game then I should have to be. The coaches need to get out of their way and put them in the right situation to win. I hope to see a lot running especially from Martinez. Also lots of short crossing routes that other teams have used very effectively against them and their man defense. With our speed at receiver if DJU can hit them in stride they can get a lot of high percentage chunk plays possibly more.
Any news if cooper or Thomas are going to play?
How about news on Levengood and Hodgins?
Yeah. I’m not sure we appreciate the gravity of that play call yet. It literally has the potential to impact Smith’s career. If the Beavs end up with 4 or 5 losses I think it really can be traced back to that call and his stock will have dropped massively. I’ve said multiple times that I believe Smith is a top 10 coach in terms of scheme and player development. But he made a decision that could potentially lose a locker room (on top of multiple questionable in game decisions over the last few seasons). IMO it isn’t hyperbole to say it has the potential to cost him millions of dollars.
Read a tweet that Cooper and Hodgins were participating in pre-game warm-ups. Looks like both will play. No word on Leavengood or Thomas
BIG JIM on radio talks like Thomas likely will play, but no Levengood
Oregon looks like a playoff team.
Yeah and they looked pretty good in the first half of the civil war last year too. How’d that turn out?
Too bad last year’s game has no bearing on this year’s contest
FWIW: The USC band was just playing “Johnny Q ” by the Crazy Eights. Someone out there will remember them (former OSU band members).
Current game on ESPN still has another 11 minutes left. Could be an hour before we can watch….
Always happens to our games. Hopefully they play it on another channel.
Colorado changed their oc. Hopefully it doesn’t surprise the team too much. Offense isn’t the problem at Colorado.
And hopefully it adds to the turmoil likely to exist in the Buffs locker room.
They average 78 rush yards per game. They had 25 rush yds vs UCLA
ESPN has the game moved to 7:30pm or so it says.
Prime must be livid
I just saw 7:15 on ESPNnews
Just referencing the ESPN app. Not seeing any time change though online. You’re probably right.
Beavs 42-28
Beavs on espn news. 38-31 Beavs!
Game has started on ESPN news now, FYI
And a three and out. Not a good start. You know you can still run the ball on 3rd and 3. Especially against a team like CU.
3rd and 3 first drive and we pass. Fuck sake just pound the rock!!
Beavs 3 and out and already showing we can’t tackle in space on defense.
Not how you set the tone early.
Run the damned ball.
But also don’t fumble
I’m taking a shot every time the announcers say “Pat Schumur”, I’m already passed out.
Fenwick doesn’t hardly get Carrie’s and he fumbles. Their d sucks if you don’t turn it over you should score on them.
Blech
We caused our own fumble….smh…
and the announcers are all, “Colorado has forced two turnovers,” as if they’re just not watching the game.
Well, they ran the ball. Fenwick coughed it up.
Official have the choice, call it a fumble and replay it, or blow it dead and dont call it a fumble and then replay doesnt allow you to show possession.
So of course they blow it dead.
i’ll never understand replay strategy by officials. It always feels backwards
Why the hell would it take the replay officials that long to make that call?
Strangely they make correct call
Is #44 for Colorado Lawrence Taylor?
He’s an animal
JS disrupting flow with his wacky ways.
Martinez kind of gave up on the play a lil.
This announcer embarrassing himself not saying Chiles name right.
Why do the Beavs always get weird fucking announcers? The dude is saying “Chiles” like it’s a Hispanic surname.
Hahahah. Ron Burgandyesque…..
Chilllll-es with the legz
Back to ESPN…I fucking hate this jumping around
Same shitty announcers tho
Anyone know who is calling plays for the bison ?
The Beavs are being a little loose with the ball. Can’t commit turnovers against this defense. Just keep running it.
UW running game has been their weakness all year. Somehow their RB has like 250 yards on USC right now lol.
Watching SC /uw earlier sounded like herbie wanted to have Caleb’s baby
Haha. He can fight Mel Kiper for top groupie status.
Terry has had at least four holding calls this year.
Ya I was thinking the same thing. Martinez bounced outside what caused it but he needs to just let go and let Martinez make a play.
Is deshawn high, wtf?
Fenwick plz… DJ plz…
Kickin our own asses!
Well, that was a discombobulated cluster fuck of a series. Nice waste of an excellent punt return by Gould.
Fenwick seems lost and Chiles looked a lot better than DJ…
Defense looks adequate so far though. Colorado will make big plays if you let them hang around though. Beavs need to be up 2 scores by halftime, which means it will be tied shortly.
Fenwick needs to sit let Newell spell Martinez
Jam would be getting a lot more carries than he has at Mississippi.
Don’t agree. Chiles got away with a very bad throw that should have been picked. DJ has been fine.
Ya Chiles almost committed our 2nd turnover.
Fenwick has been solid. We are just blessed with a great RB stable compared to most teams.
DJ is one of the best passers I’ve seen. His consistency is the issue. Chiles is less of a passer but he’s gonna be a dual threat terrorist. You don’t see QB’s who can run like that often.
Run the ball for fuck sake. Martinez will eventually break one.
A big weakness offensively is the Beavers have no running back who is much of a threat in the passing game. They never replaced Trey Lowe and it shows. Throw was a little high but Fenwick should have caught it.
Does Newell bang all the coaches’ wives and so he’s always in the dog house? How can a guy that scored 2 td’s in the most significant time he’s ever played to get that Civil War win never see the field? Fenwick looks like he’d rather be on the couch. Fumbles. Batted ball (not a great throw but definitely one most guys would catch). Ridiculous
I don’t understand it either. He’s so much more explosive than Fenwick.
BS pi call
I hate P-12 officials and their spastic knee-jerk calls. Take a close look, most of the contact was by the receiver. Stop inserting yourselves into the game and let the game flow.
That was clear pass interference once I saw the replay. He wrapped him up before the ball was there. On first glance it looked like BS.
So far the tackling is better.
Mascarenes came to play!
So has Chatfield
Colorado’s offensive line is pitiful. This is far and away the best the front 7 and the pass rush in particular has looked all season. If the Beavers don’t beat themselves the rest of this one, there’s no reason they shouldn’t win by at least 17
Yup but unfortunately they’re doing just that.
They miss a block for a sack and then a fumble. This team beats themselves constantly on the road. Something has got to change cause this has been a pattern year after year
grays fault on that sack
Wow. Tackling and now ball security
Disband this football program with this loss.
Fuck off duckie
Like I said playing too loose with the ball. This is the only way you lose this game.
Am I the only one who thinks that Martinez has been a tick less explosive this year? Getting stopped a lot on tackles he would break last year?
Throw the football!
My favorite part of this game is when Chill Ays scored that 23 yard TD run.
ESPN really sucks.
They really want Colorado to win this.
This is becoming a Mountain West pillow fight
My god, I’m calling my therapist already
Missing that good ol Quizz ball security discipline
I remember seeing his first fumble when he was a pro. They kept replaying it and then showing his face. Poor guy.
His only fumble in college was on a shitty backward pass from the QB (I think it was Canfield).
Correct, and calling it backwards was questionable. I remember replaying it and they were on the same line when canfield threw it vs where it hit Quizz’s hands. Still irks me
We don’t count that as a fumble.
The defense is playing good so naturally the offense plays terrible.
Keep with the run game.
Good job by defense tonight but offense has shit the bed.
I’m calling my therapist already
That’s like the third time Martinez has done that weird take a knee thing when he gets tackled.
That’s what I was saying earlier, something seems a little off with him this season. Not quite as explosive.
We finally get good play calling and the players are not executing. We’ve missed 4 big plays, two of them likely TD’s.
We are going to get boat raced by UW and the ducks
Chances are good Lanning will do some dumb shit like last year.
We haven’t lost in Oregon, and we won’t play outside of it for the rest of the regular season
I want Chiles and Newell
We’re going to look a lot better in the second half, calling it now.
Just bench DJ already and play Chiles. I get why they don’t want to play Chiles since he is 100% guaranteed to transfer. Thus, we need to disband our program.
Maybe Aiden has earned more than one series a game
Why aren’t we running any short crossing routes? CSU and others used it very well against them.
What in the hell is Bolden doing there? DJ scrambling and he doesn’t fight to get open at all. Bolden and Gould when they aren’t open initially basically never fight to get open. They have got to upgrade the WR position. Chiles probably picks up 7-8 yards there cause he’s more athletic obviously but man, they got to get bigger and stronger at the WR position
If DJ knows that a lot of blitzes are coming he freezes and doesn’t look downfield at all.
Martinez and Fenwick are both looking iffy. I wonder if Lindgrens insistence on balance is lost the fire for Martinez over the course of the year. He has great opportunities in some
Games to just run crazy but they haven’t tried it yet, so he loses interest.
DJ could have at least called a timeout there. It was obvious they didn’t have protection that was going to work.
Martinez has battled some injury issues all season. Has left games multiple times and you can see he’s not the same. I’m betting after the season they announce he played with multiple injuries. He’s definitely not healthy
DJ is not the best open field runner
I didn’t realize how slow he is, no wonder he wasn’t a good fit for RPO at Clemson.
Wow Gould! Beavs are doing everything wrong.
No more passing to the RBs. It never works
Well, as they say, that didn’t age well. lol
Jesus Martinez.
Apparently passing that jay around the rb room
The RBs seem to think they are playing volleyball tonight.
Martinez needs to sit
Martinez is a bad receiver. He never catches the ball cleanly and runs shit routes.
These announcers are unbearable. Colorado isn’t playing great, OSU just isn’t executing.
Announcers actually get coach m name correct
What was Martinez doing?
Martinez cannot block.
DJ is slow to process.
He’s inconsistent. Some plays he processes super quickly, other times he stares down one receiver. If he ever gets his mental issues worked out, he’d be a great QB.
If anybody watched Levis on Thursday, it was an impressive showing, he makes his read and throws, doesn’t second guess it.
I take it you haven’t been watching the games before this?
Feels like he’s still not 100% comfortable in the system and is thinking too many plays instead of just playing. But I never watched any Clemson so maybe he’s always played that way
Irish was open and DJ bounces it to him
Our offense is complete shit.
The field is crap tonight. Chunks in players helmets after plays and guys slipping all over. Wonder if a cleat change would help.
2 inept offenses = 10 points
These sacks are killing the offense. No idea why CU’s defense has been so disruptive, they haven’t stopped anyone all year. How embarrassing for the offense.
Prime taking smiths playbook to end the half
Unga-Lay, Unga-Ah-Lu-A? What is it?
Horrible coaching again tonight’
I need to keep reminding myself these are 18-22 year olds. This is some sloppy football.
Oh, but go ahead and pass it to the RBs if it will be more like that
Fenwick redeems himself!
That was a great route, pass and catch. Nice job
Velling was open too…good on Fenwick tho
Saw that!
Really good play call. Prime time is an idiot.
Yeah, ego is a detriment when you become a coach.
Think about all those egos getting screamed at during halftime.
Do they get to scream back about his shitty play calling to end the half ?
Yup. As stated. Let the Buffs beat themselves. They’re really good at it
Sounds like maybe Prime was blunting it with Martinez and Fenwick before the game!
Thank you for the TD Deion!
Guys, I’m thinking we’re actually not a good team. Maybe avg? This is awful, awful football. Road games aren’t this hard. Sure, you’d rather play at home but road games aren’t this hard. We’re just avg. We play like this the rest of the year and we’ll be lucky to have 7 wins. Just garbage football. Bad coaching. Lingren is absolute garbage. So predictable. Throw on 1st. Run on 2nd. Then have 3rd and long. Someone needs to light the whole offense on fire during halftime and of not, start pulling guys and sit them on the bench. No better motivation than getting your playing time taken away and watching your replacement play their ass off.
I have a similar thought. Maybe a bit above average normally, with the potential to be good. But rarely meeting that potential.
The crowd as a 12th man at Reser really is a thing and helps the team.
The Buff’s offense has moved the ball most of the season, so it was encouraging to see how well the defense played in the first half, but then the offense lays an egg until Prime’s screw-up. Weird game so far.
Beavs have defended well, but also hard to say how much of this is related to Colorado changing OC a few days ago.
We’re a decent team. Not good, just decent.
Losing two NFL corners, a third down back in Griffin, Lindsay/Harrison, and Speights really hurt this team. Lindgren isn’t using as much motion this year. The receiver sets looks predictable (no stacked formations). Newell and Noga are not getting snaps now.
We could do more creative gimmicky plays like usc. Those backfire every now and then. Are they worth it? Don’t we complain that we don’t run the ball enough? There are many average teams. It’s hard to be above average and win most games.
Complaining about this team is how you know we’ve officially moved past the GA era
At least we officially don’t have the dumbest coaches in the league.
I don’t have many complaints about the in-game coaching in this game. It’s been a well coached game. Mostly just been players not executing but they gotta find a way to get the players ready to go in these road games cause they should have won last week and should be up big in this one. Colorado’s O-line stinks but really encouraging how well the defense has tackled in space and covered. Just catch the damn ball and not gift them turnovers and this is a win
Ya it’s the players just not making plays. That punt return by Gould where he caught it with his knee down is a perfect example of how they’ve been playing.
The defense has been playing good. I think I saw that their offense averages like 34 points a game. We just never can put all the facets of the game together at once.
Sanders railing at, and blaming players on camera is eventually going to wear thin even with all the Neon Hype
Lane Kiffin’s Toupe
Arizona 14
UCLA 0
Great, JS wants the passing game to get going. Strap in for 25 pass attempts thus 2nd half.
Or he just wants it to not suck and the pass blocking to be better. Three sacks in one half is inexcusable for this Oline.
Alert: Beavs ran 28 times and passed only 14 in first half. Balance incoming which means expect several 3pass possessions until balance is achieved…smh
By how many TD’s will nike be favored over SC?
5
Oh good, another 11 yd run by D Mart and then we throw on 1st down. Lol.
DJ doing the home first down chant gives me life <3
Fuaga got a hold call for being better at football than the D-lineman for Colorado lol. Absolutely terrible call
The Arizona loss hurts because of the recency… but that’s a good football team. WSU may be on their way to 8 straight losses and 4-8. That is proving to be one of the worst and most devastating losses in Oregon State football history…
Anything can happen early in a season. Opponents are healthy, they haven’t quit on their coach yet/coach hasn’t made it clear and obvious he’s leaving, etc. etc.
But it was the very next week that their season went into the gutter. They haven’t looked remotely competitive since they beat us. That’s why it’s so, so painful.
Eh. Beat Wisconsin right before it. Played UCLA fairly close on the road. May have had key injuries after that one.
Wisconsin is 5-4. That UCLA game was not as close as the score indicates. They were outgained 471-216 and had 4 turnovers. 10 of their points were gifted from Moore INT’s (one was a pick six at the goal line)
They’re simply not a good football team and it was a bad loss. I knew it at that time and it’s even more evident now.
It wasn’t a bad loss, in that they played out of their minds in that game. If Kelly drops just one flying one-handed off-hand bomb, we win that game.
Someone has to check Trent Bray’s cash app for that performance. Suspiciously, Wazzu hasn’t come close to that effort offensively since
Fuaga gets a holding call for simply rag-dolling his defender.
Such a ridiculous call.
Meanwhile, we seem to be grinding, which is noted by the announcers, because it looks like football, and it’s easy to call.
Neither idiot announcer protested the call either, which was an obvious non-hold.
Can’t believe they blew that dead. Oh wait I can
Why we passing here?
Of course that just happened.
oh boy
You have to be kidding me. So we learned nothing from last week. Unreal.
Effing Smith!
We are going to lose this game thanks to our dumbass coach.
I don’t think that’s possible.
CU is turribal.
RIVER BOAT SMITH IS BACK!!!
Doesn’t know when to hold em.
Haven’t seen that in a while lol
WTF lol
JS cannot be sought after by anyone.
Been watching football for decades and haven’t seen this ridiculous decision making…ever.
I have, watch Oregon or in the NFL with the Chargers. Shake my head every time they lose.
To me, I hate that they disregard momentum. We had all the momentum and now we just gave it back to Colorado with that call. 2pts doesn’t do us any good.
Why go for 2?
It’s more than 1
Stupid! 3 points swing. Not like it’s a close game that the needed an extra point.
Great drive, TD and most of the quarter but now Colorado has life after the special teams fail. Unbelievable
A nice 7.5 minute drive for 6 should have been a back breaker, but then scratch ticket strikes and now Buffs have life. BIG JIM and Parker can’t believe the call to go for 2 when 1 was already on the board.
Coach Smith! Can you just call a conventional game?
I almost can’t take this stupidness any longer. And I’ve been a Beaver fan my whole life.
I accept your creating the word stupidness, and I will also use it in this context.
Need more kicker dive!
Announcers call Smith “crazy”…seriously guys what is this?
Everytime JS gambles he just gets absolutely raped.
Atleast the offensive line woke up.
What the fuck is wrong with Smith???? If you look at your numbers sheet, there is no fucking difference between an 18 or a 19-point lead.
Just fucking why… take the fucking points. Now you just made it still just a two possession game
I wonder if Smith will ever get tired if looking like a buffoon on national television?
Probably won’t matter this game since Colorado is a Mountain West team, but Smith continues to embarrass himself. I’m very dubious that he’d get an offer from another major program now.
Probably not after these recent calls. His impulsiveness is a liability.
When did Colorado leave the Bil 12?
Seriously?
“They’ve been really wanting to get that play in all week”
Very good…
What is the advantage of being up 19 instead of 18? Just take the points.
Strategically it makes no sense, so it’s just bizarre. Angry is right it’s some kind of mental thing and he just can’t help himself.
Colorado would have needed to get at least 2 TDS and 2 two point conversions to go with a field goal to tie it. From the 1 1/2 yard line, I get his thinking
Don’t take the 1, use back up back up center and see what happens, holy smokes
We’re winning, despite some bone-headed play-calls.
I guess this is good?
No, now they’ll punch into their computer and it looks like a good call, lol.
Smith makes weekly coaching calls highlights film again
Chomping at the bit to get that two point conversion called?
Was that one on the ply sheet and we needed to get it into the film?
Can Cookus stop asking to do these horrible gambles
On special
Teams?
Smith is an absolute idiot
Boosters need to hire a guy to stand next to Smith and absolutely bitch slap him every time he gets the itch to roll the dice.
Comment if the night!
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It’s surreal at this point
I called this shit 5 years ago. It was bad then. People made excuses that it was because we had no talent, no kicker, etc. It turns out I was correct we just have a degenerate John madden football playing gambler.
Still rather have him than any other coach we could have got. He’s turned us into a contender. Would you rather have Riley or Andersen back? I hope that’s not what your saying.
He’s not really saying anything but “See I was right”. If you frequent this page at all you know that is 90 percent of angry takes with no metion of the thousands of times he’s wrong.
^Says the inbred telling people to go kill themselves.
Good response by defense.
These are the momentum swings that just kill this team. It’s ridiculous. I don’t understand this staff. If the coaches won’t learn from their mistakes, how can you expect and demand your players learn from them? I just don’t get it
Just think how the CU team must feel…
Can’t imagine what kind of risks Smith believes are necessary to beat UW haha.
You know they are already practicing them. No one can imagine what they will come up with next.
The onside kick at Cal was concerning but he has backed it up with 2 more puzzling calls all by special teams trickery/fails. It needs to be pressed by reporters to get an explanation.
We haven’t seen the Triple Lindy yet.
Man imagine if this team was firing on all cylinders. Instead defense plays great and offense shits the bed. Life of a Beav.
Smith needs a coaching intervention
Calm the fuck down everyone. Colorado sucks more than my worst teams. Beavs will win this game.
No one is saying we won’t. But this could be a blowout with a shutout on the road. Just silly that this thing is even close. You won’t see Alabama having a game like this.
Calm down? Are you new here?
It is not about this one game… it is about all of them and these stupid stupid stupid decisions losing games or making games closer then they should be.
This has to be the lowest IQ game played today given Smith and Sanders are both atrocious in-game.
Is it Cookus or Smith?
It’s okay everyone. We’ll see more stupidity next week.
To be fair, these play calls have been 700% more viable than the legal filings of the Traitorous 10.
If only we can line up our football team against their lawyers.
In a weird way, is it actually good that Smith is doing all that dumbass shit, thereby crossing him off as a candidate for bigger programs? On net, he’s probably better than any other coach we’re likely to get and is also more likely to stay after having success than others would be.
Part 2 is the truth. We can bitch all we want, we are lucky to get Smith even with his warts. No different from Casey. I’ll take it any day, name a better OSU football coach.
I like your thinking. Next week: opening kickoff is an on-sides kick.
Haha! I like how you ignored my point. No one is happy with the gambles. But I’d love to hear who we could have got that is better than Smith.
New qb getting ready for Colorado. Buckle up, hopefully he isn’t a scrambling true freshman.
True freshman…d playing well…should now be even better….why do I feel like I need to cross my fingers?
I was thinking the same thing. Need this score in case he comes in and lights it up.
Would like to see the Beavs run away with this and have Chiles play another series.
Munyagi!…….in stride.
Give this player the opportunity for more looks. O.o
The coaching staff of every team we have ahead is watching and looking for ways to trap JS into a stupid gamble.
It’s also amazing that CU is just rolling up the score on us.
Their O is so impressive.
They have so taken advantage of our edge D.
We need to find a solution.
If JS hasn’t lost the locker room after
The recent gambles and DJ is speaking for everyone when he says they love JS and 100%behind him, then it leads one to the conclusion that JS is simply willing to try crazy plays that no one else would consider and the players buy into it as a team. Perhaps it is like a great chess player amusing himself with poor
Moves to see how he can get the advantage again.
I think of it more like Smith is taking the lowest risk opportunities to practice something necessary in high pressure situations. In essence, getting reps for when the game will truly be on the line. Where of course it finds itself more often because of the extra risks taken in general.
Saying it no. No matter what kick the FG
Field goal? What kind of bullshit is this?
BS call, I want excitement, unexpected football
Newall leads DJ towards the end zone but acts like he is a ball carrier and not a blocker; avoided hitting any buffs on that one. Sheesh!
I noticed that too. If he had hit someone as fast as he was going, he would have blown them up!
I was hoping Newell would get a carry if he was in there for his “blocking”…geez.
OSU is “physical” but can’t run the ball inside the 5.
Seriously. We can’t run the ball 6 yds in 3 downs????
That was an odd red zone series, at least they kicked the FG, and made it a three-score game, which is what the extra point would have done a few minutes back.
It was already a 3 score game at 20-3. Going for it there after getting the penalty actually isn’t that horrific. The execution definitely was though haha.
It was 20-5, two score game, right?
Colorado scoring the 2 points on the return got them the 5. Of course Beavs never expected that would happen. 999 times out of 1000 the Beavs would have just either converted there or not, and it would have still been a 3 score game.
That was a classic case of a decent process and the result being the single worst possible outcome and making the HC look brain dead lol. It happens. Outside of the fake FG last week, I feel like JS has okay process, he just might be insanely unlucky. Dan Lanning with similar issues. Must be a state of Oregon thing
Agree haha. We can all agree Smith has a gambling issue. But he has definitely also been unlucky. He’s due!!!!
This is true.
This call is different than not taking points. It was situationally fine, but unlucky.
The fact that many ST plays have been unlucky, situationally appropriate or not, might need some discussion.
The point is that there is no difference between an 18 point lead and 19 point lead. You gain virtually nothing by getting the 2. Instead, the unthinkable happens and it’s a two score game. The logic before the play even happened is worse than the actual outcome.
Actually there is. If Colorado is down 21-3 and scores a TD to make it 21-10….That means they can tie with a TD, 2pt conversion and a field goal. If it was 22-3 then Colorado needs 3 TDs
Uhhhh…. No.
22-3 = 19 point lead
2 touchdowns and 2pts = 16
Therefore a field goal makes it 19
So there is no difference between 18 and 19. If it was a difference between 19 and 20 then I understand because then yes, it would be three touchdowns.
Addendum….I’m an idiot haha. Few too many beers have impacted my math skills…..Going up 19 would make Colorado need 2 TDs, 2 2pt conversions, and a FG. So I guess it provides a very slight extra advantage, also considering the Beavs only needed a yard on their try……After all consideration I still think is wasn’t the worst call. Just funny how it worked out.
Sheduar is thinking that this never happened to him at Jackson st.
We still can’t tackle.
Looks like they’re playing not to get beat instead of to win.
Chatfield held all day
Yeah, what the hell was that? Right in front of the ref also.
Not the first non-hold either
Well, missed tackles are back. Reason for that td for sure.
Key word “back”, earlier Beavs had several decent tackles.
Morons didn’t go for 2
Kevin Clune defense right there
Now Colorado is allowed to hold for the comeback? Obvious holds just about every play. Dline is probably getting gassed.
This needs to be an 8 minute drive to end the game with a score. Put it on the oline.
I’ll
Be waiting for the refs to call back a nice gain with a holding flag
On Fuaga again.
I wouldn’t mind seeing if Chiles can catch. He could make a nice extra receiver on occasion woth his speed and height, although I’d hate risk injuring him
At least sappington has become a very solid kicker.
I still think beavs would be better with Chiles
Clock just needs to keep running and we need about 3 yards, so naturally we call a dangerous RPO play that could have been picked and also stops the clock.
Sappington has had a solid season.
Having a kicker that is more accurate this season helps.
OSU is “physical” but opts to throw into triple coverage on 3rd and 3.
Listen, I understand if there are six or seven in the box, but this isn’t the NFL. Run the ball and DRAIN THE FUCKING CLOCK
Why are we throwing the ball? Colorado still very much in this.
Reasons
3 yds is too much to run, especially when you’re averaging 4.4 yds per run.
Lindgren strikes when the opportunity to slam the door is closest. Why pass either time?
Be interesting to know what DJ thought he saw there, he cannot throw that ball into that coverage. Another questionable Lindgren pass call, 3rd and 3 just run the ball. Even if you don’t get the first down another 40 seconds runs off the clock and maybe you go for it on a 4th and short play and get close to sealing the game. I don’t get it.
Absolutely unbelievable how stupid Smith and Lindgren are. This game should have been over long ago
A road win is a road win. They have controlled the game and CU hasn’t scored 30 on us…
This team is not going to be ready for Autzen.
Why?
Cal looked ready, until their depth caught up with them.
The Phils can punch, but can they take a punch?
Sanders is so beaten down haha. Poor guy
We are going to lose this game like I said in the 1st quarter.
That would be epic lol
That aged about as well as an UW legal filing.
Again, this would be a 2 score game right now if you just take the PAT.
Need to dominate the line of scrimmage and seal this game with the run.
Need to get the onside kick first!
What onside?
That was another questionable call by Sanders considering how crappy their run defense has been. Then again maybe he thought Lindgren would call pass plays three times?
UW and UO are going to kill us.
The University of Phil is the more likely to do it, since it’s down here, but you apparently have not been watching the puppies.
They’re on intravenous fluids, at the moment.
Don’t turn this game off yet. We’ve got an onside kick to recover. If we do recover, I’m sure we’ll throw it 3 times and then punt.
Lol you are spot on because they would
Expect us to run so trick them
With 3 passes and maybe expect an interception while
We’re at it.
The life of a Beaver fan…
We like EXCITING, right down to the end games
Watch us come out throwing. If we recover the onside kick.
So basically bison can just hug dline especially chatfield on every play …got it
Interesting scenario. Colorado has timeouts so Beavs can’t just run the clock out with running plays. Meaning……they can either just run it and try and get the first down, but at least force Colorado to use the timeouts. Or……They could take the riskier route, attempting to pass for a first down. What will Smith do?
I don’t know that it would ever get called, but it sure looked like Hunter was holding down Olodapo’s arm when the ball was in the air.
It definitely looked like a push off of some sort
It was offensive interference but they wouldn’t ever call that with the potential for a late game Colorado comeback
27 -17 two score game if Smith would just play it straight.
Wow. Colorado is absolutely terrible haha
Why are cu coaches allowed to camp out on the field clear out to the numbers during the game?
So I had things to do at the half and haven’t been watching. What did the river boat gambler do now?
We play to the level of our opponents, meaning we will look like dogshit at home against a bottom feeder Stanford, and then look top 10 against the dawgs
Need to watch out for a trap game against Stanford. They have at least one really good receiver. UW will have another tough game next week against Utah so they may be a little banged up coming in in 2 weeks. Definitely beatable. The most likely outcome though is an 8 win season without any particularly impressive wins.
Based on how we’re playing, that’s not a trap game. That’s a “lucky to get a win” game. This was maybe the ugliest win we’ve had in the JS era. We should’ve steamrolled Colorado yet it game down to a 1 score game. Stanford is likely the last win on the schedule.
And Stanford SHOULD be a win, but they can jump up also.
Wow reactionary dumb take. If they were “lucky” to win that game I doubt your ability to watch football at any level. Yes some stupid stuff but osu dominated that game
That was stupid also, why shotgun snap it, and why run it backward? DJ didn’t even take that much time off the clock. They could have just done victory formation, right? Am I missing something?
Why is Sanders jawing with the ref? What a jagoff
Bad lip reading from the girl ref seemed to be “coach I didn’t see you call timeout”
Why do I feel so shitty after a win. Smith pisses me off.
Because it wasn’t remotely impressive. None of the wins this season really have been.
UCLA and Utah wins were impressive.
UCLA was the best one but looks like they won’t be ranked by the end of the season. Utah had no QB in that game.
UCLA is going to lose to Arizona. Damn, the Wildcats have become fucking good.
Utah’s JV offense and UCLA’s deer in the headlights freshman QB were not “impressive” opponents
They certainly were.
UCLA will be USC’s fourth Conference loss, most likely.
They were both (at the time we kicked off) more solid defenses than anyone else we’ll face this year, by far. Their offenses are questionable, as well. But you’ve seen what Utah can do against USC–something UW couldn’t do.
If you want to neg on college football as a whole, that’s fine. There are glaring weaknesses to exploit on every team out there. It’s college football. But the focus on one team’s issues without the context of the whole of college football having all the same issues is pretty meaningless.
GREAT win against a GREAT opponent.
This team is ready for Washington and Oregon.
Great? Really?
Great win against Pat Shurmur, that legit OC who was gonna outscheme the Beavs D.
Still put up 17 points with a Big Sky OLine
From the AP story on the job turned in by Shurmur:
“The change didn’t provide the spark the Buffaloes had hoped as they managed just 52 yards of offense in the first half and mismanaged their final possession, leaving the Beavers enough time to score the touchdown that gave them a 14-3 halftime lead.
Shurmur called pass plays on first and second down from his own 4 with under a minute left and the Beavers got the ball back at the Colorado 20-yard line following the three-and-out punt and Anthony Gould’s 28-yard return.
“We shouldn’t have been throwing there. We needed to run the ball,” Sanders told ESPN as he walked to the locker room. “That’s on me,” Coach Prime added.”
https://gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/oregon-state-defeats-colorado-pac-12-football/article_a95aedfc-7ba5-11ee-86f3-b7b7a15c125f.html
Still doesn’t contradict the fact that he won NFL assistant of the year as the Vikings OC
Of course not, but our original discussion was regarding his potential impact on the game yesterday; no more/no less.
Again, he had no OLine to work with.
Recall the 2019 Washington game which was virtually identical, yet people were fine with calling Lindgren an elite OC at the time.
Colorado holds us to 10- points under our average. Thank god the defense showed up for 3 quarters.
They showed up for four.
They were just so good, Colorado’s offense was giving them hugs for the fourth quarter.
Sanders is the worst coach in the conference and is a fraud apart from Sheduer winning games single-handedly.
Nice favor of Deion to make such obvious coaching errors to take some
Of the spotlight off of JS.
A win is a win…7-2 is good and it is tough to
To win on the road. So good job Beavs.
I don’t think Prime has a clue what he’s doing from the tactical side of being a head coach. That stupid decision at the end of the first half ended up being one of the differences in the game.
That has to be one of the worst football games I’ve seen in a while.
If it wasn’t for Mascarenas and Chatman (and a couple others) being demons on D, it would have been a really boring game.
I’m happy to see Martinez with 20 carries. But that’s just a start. I’m blaming ball security issues on us just not running the fucking ball, so we’re not used to just running the fucking ball.
Wholesale change on special teams would be worth considering… have to be consistent when it matters.
We held them to -7 rushing. That’s good I guess.
-7 sucks. -20 and then I might be impressed.
Hoping for the best against Washington and Oregon but not feeling good about those games. And Stanford can ball at times so next week is no guarantee.
Anyone got the cliff notes on what Chatfield said on ESPN at the end of the broadcast?
He said he told the sideline reporter to interview him after the game and she obliged. Rest of it was just generic “good team win” stuff.
Thanks
Big smiles. Said he was thankful to be in this situation after going through some tough times.(presumably thankful to be at OSU playing well after tough times to start his career at Florida)
Smith was smiling ear to ear
The team has shown that they play way better at home over the past few seasons, so I’m cautiously optimistic for the next two
Beavs D held Buffs to 13pts under their avg, so there’s that…..and 170 yds under their avg.
Also notable, Beavs D on the field only 24 minutes; may have offset the altitude to some degree….in other words, they looked gassed near the end, I’d hate to have seen them need to play another 6 or so minutes.
It was needed tonight.
This offense needs to do its part for the remaining games to mitigate our D’s weaknesses, whether that’s TOP, scoring lots of points & minimizing errors.
The home field advantage against Stanford and UW will help. The fact that Lanning is just as stupid and prone to gambling is a factor that will help or may cancel out Smith’s questionable choices. I’m least confident about the Civil War but I do think we can beat UW and Stanford.
With UCLA’s loss, the Beavers, despite two losses and looking overall very poor the last two weeks, now officially control their own destiny to make it to Vegas. They now get Stanford and Washington at home, a stadium they are 15-1 in the last three seasons. Beating Washington is obviously a tall order, but there is something magical about that home field advantage. They should be 10-0 coming in too, Reser will be juiced. College Gameday might even be in town. I don’t think there’s any chance they can win in Eugene, but just giving yourselves a chance for Civil War (maybe the last one for ??? years) with a PAC-12 title bid on the line? Can’t ask for much more than that.
Yep. As long as Beavs take care of business next week and stay healthy…..The UW game will be a close one. CW gonna be tough. Will probably be 14-20 pt underdogs. But stranger things have happened…..
What’s the tiebreaker if it ends up with UW in 1st place and OSU/Oregon/USC in a 3 way tie for 2nd? (I dont see that happening, but it is possible)
OSU would own the tiebreaker with Oregon.
How does USC/OSU get determined?
It goes to multi team tiebreakers and Oregon State wins it because they have the win over Washington while USC and Oregon lost to them.
I don’t think there is a way for a 3 way tie without Utah. Oregon/USC will likely drop usc to 3 conference losses. If USC wins an OSU lose to Ducks then Beavs are at 3 losses.
Yeah they can all theoretically end up tied at 3 losses. AZ would probably beat them all with 2 losses anyway though
There’s a 3 way tie with Oregon/USC/OSU if USC and OSU win out. It could be a 4 way tie as well if Arizona won out, even still OSU wins the tiebreaker because all 4 of those teams have played Washington and OSU would be the only one that beat them in this scenario.
Just kidding, that’s wrong. That would mean USC beat Oregon, so Oregon’s out. It doesn’t matter though. The point is that the UW win is the reason Oregon State would win all these tiebreakers.
Just when the Pac12 made things interesting by have the top 2 teams go to the championship game, they blow it all up
Forgot Oregon/USC still have a head to head. USC is likely done, but you never know.
Beavs just gotta win out if they want any type of bragging rights.
Coulda/Shoulda/Woulda beaten WSU/Arizina if a few plays go their way. Too bad, this season had so much potential.
Wish we had DJ on last years team. That would have been fun
Just like a Riley “up” season. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
college gameday will not be coming to Corvallis. That would be a disastrous show and they don’t want that press.
They might not have a choice. Go look at the slate that week. The only competition at this point is Georgia at Tennessee. They’re already going to Athens next week so do they really want to do a second straight Georgia game? Good chance Tennessee loses @ Missouri next week too, giving them a third loss. They’re not going to Kansas State-Kansas after KSU lost a third time today. Feels like it’s almost a guarantee they are coming if OSU/UW both win next week.
The PAC-2 factor will keep gameday out of Corvallis.
Disagree. Makes it an even more intriguing story for the ratings.
They always have a choice
Jesus
So where are they going instead, huh? Answer that question.
Try P5 undefeated?
As much as I’d like to see gameday in Corvallis, somehow, I don’t see it happening. Couldn’t give you a reason as to why other than its just the luck of OSU. lol
Why would we want to see gameday in Corvallis?
The only reason I can think of is to fast all an orange into the back of McAfee’s melon… although some would consider their appearance validation of beavs program and an Fu in and of itself
UCLA-USC
Both will be unranked
It’s LA
ESPN can shove College Gameday up their ass.
I think I’ll make such a a sign, should they end up in Corvallis… ever.
Just realized Utah is our best friend the next 2 weeks.
If they can beat UW and Arizona in consecutive weeks, Beavs would be in the driver’s seat for 1st place overall.
WSU fixing to finish dead last, talk about coug’n it.
What the hell happened to WSU? They’ve just imploded since they beat us.
They used the dark arts to win the Conference Championship Game, then they started paying the price.
Well, Dickert has been sniffing around for another job and the players are on to him; most of the good ones are most likely searching around for another home. I guess the WSU president sent out a letter basically saying that they were going to have to start cutting the athletic budget, the schedules are a mess, but that they should be happy that they were still a D1 school.
On another topic, how is the kid from CAL doing? I saw that play where he was trying to run it in for a score on the Ducks, fumbled the ball and essentially got blocked pretty hard with his head bouncing off the turf; looked bad in slow motion. The stopped play for quite a while and he was carted off, but no movement other than his eyes. Hate to see shit like that, but it is a violent sport.
Smith, in response to the question about the two point conversion said,
“There’s an analytics chart and then talked about it and where the score …, I feel really confident on it. The 1 1/2-yard line, and double our points. And I think we walk in the end zone if we execute.”
Not the first time failure to execute has been blamed for the results of JS scratch ticket moves.
We should just onside kick the ball every time we kick off. The analytics show it leads to more scoring opportunities. We just need to execute the onside kicks.
Scary thought process.
Unhinged
Has Michigan State called??
Smith totally ignores the chart that tells coaches when adding the point is advantageous and deflects to the shortened distance. Yeah, most of the time you will probably make the yardage, but you did not need the point at that time in the game AND a worst-case scenario had the opportunity to happen.
Pretty good troll by UNM. Well played….
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1720996554285170708
Back to the mean for Smith. Got the damn points and ran the damn ball, surprise surprise the win and beat an inferior opponent. He couldn’t hold himself back from just getting the xtra point and had to go for two, which ended up being a 3 point swing. They still don’t understand that when you have a running team it shortens the game, and EVERY point matters — games will be lower scoring.
Overall, Beavs are good enough to 5th place and lower but just not a good team — they may beat Stanford, but will end up 8-4
*good enough to beat 5th place and lower
8-4 and getting swept by the northwest schools.
Usually going 0-3 against your rivals is enough to warrant a coaching change. Not with Beaver nation apparently.
Yeah it certainly would be the worst 8 win season in school history. UW game is massive. A 9 win season including a victory over a top 5 team is lightyears better than an 8 win season and getting swept by the NW.
By season’s end Smith will have as many total wins against rivals (4) as times getting swept by all three (4).
Love how it’s already called that we will be 0-3 vs nw schools. If they win 1 or both I’m sure you will be back with another horrible take. Almost all your replies are total garbage. Go to Eugene, find masolis grave, steal a laptop and use the webcam to record you killing yourself. J/k.
^^^someone’s mad that their pride in life won’t win anything significant under Smith.
Do me a favor and don’t kill yourself, because your mental suffering is delicious.
I mean… it is a ridiculous response.
But it’s not like your take is much better.
Meh.
We have one more loss in us… maybe.
Your imagined angst hasn’t watched the crap product that is the rest of college football. You’re just focused on the crap product that is college football in front of you.
Oh my angst is very real. But yes! We never know how anything will play out now do we, Okie State beat OU, and KSU almost beat Texas…..I will be at the UW game, really hoping the home crowd pumps up the home team for the win. Away at Authenticator, don’t think the Beavs have a snowball’s chance….
*Autzen
The polar oppisite of a Authentic, ironically
Cal was pumping them until their O-line broke down, late in the first quarter.
We don’t go to Autzen and sling the ball around the yard, like we’ve been trying the last couple weeks. That game needs to be shortened and dominated in the trenches.
But the University of Phil is not as dominant a team as their scores would suggest. They simply prey on poor decisions. Crossing my fingers we don’t have any of them, but I won’t say it is impossible.
The problem is the Ducks have 3 major variables in their favor this season that they didn’t last year: 1. Home Game, 2. Extra motivation to avenge prior season loss, 3. Chance to make the CFP. There’s just so much more in their psychological arsenal this time around. One thing that could happen however in the Beavers’ favor……With CFP still on the line, and with the knowledge how embarrassing it would be for OSU to take a league championship opportunity from them 2 years in a row (and in the final year of the Pac 12)……It’s possible they come out playing tight. If somehow the Beavs can get a big turnover early or do something to reinforce the doubt……Could be game on.
you never know how injuries play out the next 2 weeks too. Last year Nix got dinged up vs UW. It did help OSU to have him less mobile. Hard to say how the USC game will go. You know Lincoln Riley and USC hate oregon, so it could get dirty.
Very true. Both the Beavs and Ducks will be different in some way right before kickoff as compared to now.
If Bray can force Nix to roll out consistently that’s half the battle.
From what I’ve seen it seems like yucks yac is where Bojangles makes his money.
Rewatched game early this morning. OSU is in a catch 22. Our coaching staff is why we are a top 25 team but it is our coaching staff that is keeping us from being a top 10 team.
I think our coaches are very predictable yet reckless at the most random times. For instance. Everyone knows Chiles will come in on 3rd possession. Why? I’m all for playing Chiles and feel he is the better QB in the making. But why not move that time when he goes in around to throw off opponents and to play to the flow of the game? The gambling and coming to a game with a script that you stick to regardless of what’s actually happening in the game is not good HC to me. And for the haters I acknowledge that the Chiles script has been working but it still just shows me that JS has a script and regardless he is sticking to it rather then keeping his finger on the pulse of the game. I’d rather he let DJ play and if DJ is hot let him play, if not then pull him and let Chiles play.
With all that said I am very excited for the future of Chiles. I also wonder if DJ might be able to help our baseball team on the mound before he exits. If he were smart he would look at that because in long term it might be a better fit and path to professional sports payday.
Looking back that Coug loss really stings at this point. So does the gamble at Arizona although AU is a better team and it wasn’t just the gamble there. It was more what I stated above, HC script for a game without in game adjustments.
I watched both Oregon and Washington yesterday. Both are playing like top 10 teams and will be hard to beat. Just hope the Beavs home field advantage helps with Washington.
Go Beavs, I still love you, but please stop breaking my heart.
Agree on the Chiles point. It wasn’t so bad earlier in the season to get him some reps. But now we’re getting down to crunch time. Time to stop fucking around. Stanford game is not completely devoid of danger. Let’s play that straight up and not do anything to risk the offensive flow. To do it against UW or UO would just be crazy.
If it’s in the script it will happen. You CANNOT deviate from the script!
Fuck winning!!!! We’ve got plays to get to!!!
The script is important FYI. They are usually around 10-15 plays in order to assess how a defense has prepared for the game. You can glean a lot of info from running some mixed sets and see how the defense reacts. For instance what sets they set up in or shift to zone. It’s basically the road map for the game. Unfortunately Lindgren needs a navigation aid some times.
And having two QBs learn from that in serious time, as well as running two scripts, is invaluable.
It has not been a hindrance in any games, and it’s probably the least to think about, given it’s as deflating for the D to not be able to figure Chiles out, then get back to smashmouth… when we bother to smash mouths.
I actually don’t mind the coaches mixing it up, Chiles coming in did catch Buffalo flat footed (hoofed?). But the timing is getting very predictable….
Anybody think DJ looked extremely slow on some of his runs….yikes. Would be cool to get Chiles in there on some trick plays on a run option or fake.
DJ is slow, and looks even slower because of his size and stride. But he does seem to use his momentum, I don’t remember him falling backwards when hit.
Yeah he def looks like a grown damn man out there!
When you rewatch that 2nd half scoring drive by OSU(with the botched 2pt) it sure does seem like the refs didnt want OSU to score there.
They called a hold on Fuaga where the replay didn’t show anything remotely close to a hold.
They called a DJ run dead on forward progress while he was pushing 4 or 5 defenders into the end zone.
The next time DJ ran it in from short, they didnt signal the TD even though DJ was clearly across the line. It was the most deleyed TD signal I think I’ve seen after a play was dead, and thos one wasn’t even questionable. Just a weird series of events that are forgotten because of the botched 2 pt conversion. I know Pac12 refs are terrible, bit thos really feels like deliberate fuckery.
I remember that “waiting for the TD” signal happening to the Beavs a couple of times in past years (once against the Quacks I think). Maybe it’s just P-12 officiating incompetence, but I watch a lot of college football and don’t see it much. The announcers were shitty again too. Notice how they made no comment on the replay of the Fuaga hold? And nothing on the Hunter offensive pass interference. The quality of ESPN announcing has gone to shit, I wonder if they’ve “hired cheaper” after all the firings/lay-offs.
Or Gould having a knee down?
Chiles has scored every possession except the Utah game. Chiles isn’t the problem.
For me the issue isn’t Chiles personally. IMO it’s poor tactics to risk messing with the offensive rhythm in a must win game against a high quality opponent. I do think Chiles has shown enough however that if DJ isn’t playing well then it would be fine to pull him. I guess that would be the argument for getting Chiles the early season reps. I just think at this point…..If DJ actually is playing decent…….Don’t mess with it.
In a lot of cases he is the offensive rhythm.
Maybe those big wide receivers from WSU will transfer to OSU after Dickert goes to Mich St.
Are there any other WSU players we could bring over and form a PAC2 dominant all star team? Perhaps their dbs and safeties since we have a triage unit covering wide receivers right now?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/pac12/2023/11/05/deion-sanders-colorado-lose-to-oregon-state/71464613007/
Now it’s trust the process.
Apparently those receipts got burned in the dumpster fire
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38821864/deion-sanders-preaches-process-colorado-loss
I don’t think Sanders is much of a tactician and it’s becoming more obvious every week. He had much better athletes at the FCS level and still lost both championship games. I guess he’ll get by with strong recruiting for a while and a weaker B12.
Are fans supposed to feel good after this win? To look at the stats and the game flow, the Beavs were in control the entire way. Never trailed or not in any real trouble. It was a solid win but the stink of last week still lingers over this team. Not sure if it ever goes away.
Random thoughts,
Chiles is earning some NIL dollars next year no matter where he plays,
Finally had a drive where the Beavs just ran the ball. Something they should have had in prior games.
Maybe changing the OC mid year was a mistake but I like Deion is not afraid to make a change when it’s needed. Tibs lasted a year longer than he should have.
Finally DM got above the 20 carries mark. He’s the closer that you want in at the end
Fumbles are becoming an issue, that is something that needs to be fixed
Tackling still a problem
Anyone think DJU knew the intentional grounding rule? How many people really knew that the passer needs to be under duress for the penalty to apply?
Chatfield is playing up to his recruiting ratings out of high school. Was a top 200 in ESPN rankings.
Zero 4th down attempts
On the third TD, not sure why the refs called DJU’s forward progress to be stopped on the prior play when he was still moving.
Watch the replay on the two point conversion and look at Bloomfield pull for a block and absolutely blows up Terry. Sent him flying. Friendly fire
The forward progress call pisses me off because the refs didn’t blow Caleb Williams down last year when he was stopped on that 4th down.
I hate that new Bush Push rule. Like you said it’s an easy way for officials to favor an opponent, they can either blow it dead immediately (like a they should be) or they wait around til the entire team wanders in and starts pushing for extra yardage. It’s fucking annoying.
They should have at least waited for someone to wrap him up. He had just bounced off a defender and was just starting to push back, when the whistle blew.
Or they wait long enough for a strip fumble to take place, or it becomes a flag for unsportsmanlike on the oline driving in after the rest because no whistle yet.
I’ve also seen where the whistles don’t blow until the running back is tossed backwards about 15 yards. Depending on who is playing it is an unsportsmanlike or no call. So easily subjective reffing to influence the game flow.
No matter the emphasis about playing the game and not having control over decisions in which they have no part, the players are in tough spots. They do have to worry about where they might go and/or do next. They committed in good faith to OSU. They know it isn’t the school’s fault but that doesn’t help with looming choices they have to make.
Right? All you have to do is look up Omar and Jam. Left a good situation for a bag. Now you’re asking kids to stay in a precarious situation and turn down a bag
I’m thinking best case scenario is we finish 3rd in the conference, with one of either Oregon or UW going to the playoffs, the other team getting a NY6, and us getting bumped up a bowl tier due to the CFP spot, which would likely put us in either the Alamo or Holiday Bowl. Would prefer Holiday Bowl at Petco Park even though Alamo is technically the “better bowl”.
Money-wise, sure.
But we still control our destiny, and all the teams left on our schedule are beatable… and have been all season.
Sure, technically speaking, but UW will be very tough, and I just don’t see how we beat the Ducks on the road.
By running it right at them.
They’re not a team focused on strength, and their depth hasn’t really been tested, yet.
Run them into the dirt, then run over them.
Not sure why this is a hard concept to grasp.
Obviously, but I’m not really trusting of Smith to stick to that plan. And, I really don’t think our defense will be able to keep up with their offense on the road.
The biggest worry is that we beat UW, then lose focus during the short week, while riding that high.
How many years have we seen the weather get cold right around the Civil War game and the duck players wilt? So many things can happen between then and now.
If they matched up tomorrow, I’d say oregon wins by a decent margin. But there are still 2 other games to get through for both teams.
Go suck a duck Dick, you are such a chump. Where’s your sign bitch?
#12 https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-football-poll
Highest ranked 2 loss team
Does that mean anything?
It means respect. Last year when we were 6-2 we were ranked #24. This year when we were 6-2 we were ranked #16.
Also we’ve been in 16 straight AP Poll rankings which I don’t think has ever happened.
No, Beavs might have the worst case of the two loss teams right now. WSU loss is looking really bad now. Most of the 2 loss teams lost to other current top 25 teams.
Yes it does. However, I think the Cougs played a great game against us. Great throws and catches all over the field. Not sure what has happened to them. I bet if we played them now we beat them 20.
Strange how public perception changes things. Usually our computer rankings from Sagarin, Massey, Colley are better than our poll rankings but it is the opposite this year. We are currently #17 in Billingsley, #19 in Sagarin, Massey and ESPN FPI, and #26 in Colley Matrix.
I think more of the voters are watching Beav games because of the DJU storyline, and many of them see a team that has won really ugly at times but is 6 points and some coaching miscues on the road away from being 9-0.
It doesn’t really matter at this point, easy to see that this team could either finish 7-5 with three ugly losses down the stretch and limp to a LA Bowl in what would go down as a disjointed and down year as compared to last years team, or they could get their shit together and win all three in boring 24-17 kinda fashion off the running game and aggressive Defense and end up 11-2 in the P12 title game and the story of the season is a continued ascension in spite of the realignment drama.
Please, just stop with the incompetent “ultra-aggressive” and “analytics” driven decisions. Someone stage an intervention, bring in Dr. Phil and have a special episode on the P12 Network or something.
Just win
A couple questions:
Grinch has been fired at SC, will this have any impact on the game in Eugene next Saturday?
And, this from Wilner, “Congrats to Washington for scoring 3 more points on USC’s defense than Cal did”, make ya think better of Beavs chances vs Dawgs?
Beavs favored by 21.5 over Stanford
I know this would stunt Chiles growth and may lead him to transfer but I think DJU needs another year in this offense. Hard to believe that he would be drafted before the 5th round.
For the Beavs’ benefit or his own benefit? For the Beavs we want whoever wins the competition in next year.
I think possibly for both. Usually qb’s thrive in their second year of running the same offense. Agree that the job should go to the best player who can successfully run the offense. My comment was made based on that I thought DJ was hopeful to play one year and the enter the draft. I don’t think he will go that high based on his performance to date.
It is not OSU’s responsibility to prepare DJ for the nfl draft. It is only OSU’s responsibility to prepare him to run the Beaver offense. Any mention of DJ’s plans indicated he wanted only a year, but that is irrelevant. Chiles will be out the door in a flash (assuming he wouldn’t be anyway) if he thought he had to wait another year.
#FW!WGPTGT!
DJ will go into the draft after this year because he has shown his ability to understand defenses and operate in a pro style even if it is only for 11-12 games. MFL will see his arm talent and say he can be the next Culpepper or something like that and they will move him up the draft board.
If the Beavs can actually win out and get into a NY6 bowl on merit and not leaving it to the rankings, which means winning the next 5 games, we will all be wishing him well as he moves onto the NFL.
Chiles is electrifying when he is in and I sort of wonder is Chiles is JS’s ultimate gambling move for the Civil War. Give the Ducks just enough to prepare for both, expecting DJ to start but Chiles comes out with swag experience and leads the Beavs to another Covil War win at Autzen… Zone read, RPO, Pro style drop back, play action stretch run, design qb keepers, all the frustrating calls that Chip used with Marriota can be finally repaid on the Ducks with Chiles. Or so it seems
I’m the dream stages of the gambler!
DJU isn’t listed on most draft boards. Probably seen as an average QB but with a big arm. Needs to show up in the next few games if he wants to be drafted high if at all.
He will be drafted, I believe. He is teachable (coach speak), There has to be some disillusionment with the zillion $ fragile qbs, who don’t do well.
Now watch DJ transfer to oregon next year after Nix is gone…
Ya that’s not happening.
Just like knew JS would never onside kick in the first half on the road of a game he just went up 2 scores? Or we would never see a fake fg attempt by our kicker from 20 yards out and 3 seconds left in the half? Or like we’d never see a 2pt conversion imploded and returned for 2 pts by the opponent when the game was well in hand? Or any other mystifying play calls which are simply unaccountable in JS repertoire? In light of these decisions, I wouldn’t say it will never happen…
I wonder if the saying “that’s so crazy it just might work” has ever crossed his mind?
It is good to have Utah still in the running which means Penix will get a lot of pressure and many hits by Utahs frontline this week.
As for USC, do they have any pride left and will their defense actually give max effort to stop the Ducks? I tend to think Bear may get a few cheap shots on Nix before he gets tossed.
Stanford is streaky but Beavs at home will be the best medicine for OSU to get settled and ready for the stretch run. Beavs 40-17
Hopefully USC’s defense responds similar to how OSU’s did when Tibbs was fired. They’ve got the athletes to cause some damage, just not the scheme or effort.
Their S&C coach is the next target, from what I’m hearing.
He apparently knows how to create muscle mass without increasing strength.
Win the next three, and we may get a NY6 spot regardless of whether or not the team wins the conference title. If we win out in the regular season, we likely rematch UW in the title game, and if they win they may still get a CFP spot as a one loss conference champ, if we win well we obviously get the NY6 spot anyways.
New thread up.