31.Jan.2016 Competitiveness

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Watching these opposing basketball teams in the conference, they all seem to have a fiery leader who can make clutch shots and will the team to victory. Last night it was clearly York, who wasn’t going to let Arizona lose. Who is that guy for the Beavers? As good and unique as Payton is, he’s a quiet leader/not fiery and can’t make FTs or 3 pointers, so he can’t really will a team to victory. Tinkle looks like the player most capable of that, but he’s growing into the role. The rest of the guys are reserved and don’t seem like great competitors. Olaf, Eubanks, Thompson…all very soft players. MD tries to be hard-nosed, but he’s not vocal nor can he finish at the rim, so that rules him out, too.

I noticed this in football, too — the Beavs seem to have guys who are not competitors and just wilt easily. A lot of that is the Riley stink, and maybe some of this is the CR stink. But in general, it would be wise to look for mental toughness/competitiveness and leadership on the recruiting trail. It’s lacking in the two major men’s programs.

And people ask why I hate Parker so much. Well this gets into that reasoning a bit. He seems to want to pat the team on the back for showing up and giving a little effort. It’s like giving someone 200 points for signing their name on the SAT. It’s a loser’s mindset. Parker is a huge loser; though, ironically when the Beavers lose he comes up with rationalizations to make it sit better, and above that, he mocks people who expect and demand more.

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  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Agree that “Parker is a huge loser”. Not sure it is “ironic” that Parker rationalizes Beaver losses and “mocks people who expect and demand more”. Making excuses and defending the status quo is actually typical of “a loser’s mindset”, isn’t it?

    As mentioned before, I personally find it difficult to listen to Parker any more, so I avoid radio broadcasts usually turn off the sound when he is the TV announcer. Parker seems to find silence awkward and to have an excessive love for the sound of his own voice. Parker broadcasts tend to be filled with trivia no one cares about, with rambling anecdotes intended to show off his insider status, or with “I know better than you” defenses of Beaver players, coaches, and administrators. Even worse than Parker’s broadcasts are his interviews of OSU players and coaches, where Parker’s windy prefaces to “questions” take up half the interview, and Parker’s cringe-worthy sucking-up is on full display.

    OK, Parker has been at OSU a long time, and has battled alcoholism and other personal problems. All of that deserves consideration. But, to be blunt, the current voice of the Beavers is — and comes across as — a loser. That’s not a good thing for OSU athletics. It’s something that needs to be fixed sooner rather than later. My two cents….

    • angry angry says:
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      Jim Wilson should take over, if he wants the job.

      Not sure it is “ironic” that Parker rationalizes Beaver losses and “mocks people who expect and demand more”.

      What I meant by that is I’d expect him to want the Beavers to actually be good, so not mock people who demand that. Yet, he can’t get out of his own way, mentally, and winds up just rationalizing it and implying (and sometimes even saying) it was awesome the Beavs showed up to compete and they’ll be good somewhere down the line. As Credence sang, “someday never comes”.

      Hey Silver, can you send me an email updating everything?

    • scotty says:
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      Just the other thread had a link to another blog writer saying how Parker actually raises expectations. Now I’m all confuzzled

  • Whiskey napkin guy? says:
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    Agree mostly. Parker lost me with his drunk napkin eating video. To keep him on as the voice of the Beavers is an embarrassment to the University.

    • scotty says:
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      Eh like you’ve never had a bad night out of the office. I’m not a fan of canning people from their jobs from unrelated incidents harmless to others.

    • Bob says:
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      If you don’t like the way Mike Parker sounds on the radio or his broadcast style and would prefer someone else for that reason that’s fine, but don’t be such a self-righteous asshole and trash him for his alcoholism. There’s nothing funny about it, it’s a terrible disease that ruins peoples lives and families. I think Parker’s alcoholism is not an embarrassment to the university but in fact quite the opposite. His willingness to address it, fix it, and then have the balls to publicly speak out on the subject tells me that he’s a pretty damn good guy. While I’m at it I think your moniker is stale, it was never funny.

      • Whiskey napkin guy? says:
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        He was on a work trip when it happened, should have been immediately fired. Have I ever consumed too much alcohol? Yes, about 40 years ago. Did I ever eat napkins in a Dennys or know anyone who has? No.

        If you think he’s great, it says a lot about you.

        And of you want to talk about “stale monikers” how’s “Bob”?

        Go fuck yourself, “Bob”

        • Bob says:
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          I don’t know the man, but I know the disease. What’s it like to be do bitchin’ you sanctimonious prick.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            It’s not a disease. Call it an illness or a sickness if you like. But don’t call it something it’s not.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        It’s an impostor. Probably just another one of Jack’s many personalities.

  • True Beavieler says:
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    It’s not like Darrell Aune is dead. I grew up w HIM as my connection to all Beaver sports. Is there really anyone who doesn’t think he’d still be terrific?

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Holy jumpin’ up and down martha! Use to love hearing him call games on the AM.

  • Boba says:
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    It seems like it’s been forever since the Beavs have had a shooter who could break the will of another team. Roberto got hot a few times, but always played such crappy defense that any run usually became a wash. GP2 just isn’t that type of offensive player. I was thinking Thompson Jr could or would become that, but you can’t continually miss wide open 3’s. I don’t know, it’s kind of depressing right now. Why can’t the Beavs be the ones punishing a team on the read at the 10 minute mark instead of continually the other way around?

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    GP2 is a great player, but he is much more of a facilitator than a scorer. STJ will be a great player, he’s going through a shooting slump, he will break out of soon though. It will take time for the freshmen to become great, they aren’t the elite freshmen like at other big name schools. Just gotta be patient with them for the most part. This team isn’t going anywhere this season and the freshmen are better than the seniors aside from GP2. Just roll with the freshmen and GP2 in the starting lineup and give them them the majority of the minutes. Start planning for next season and give the freshmen the experience they need now so they’re better prepared for next season.

    Eubanks is a guy that isn’t mentally tough right now, but the Beavers will need him going forward in the next couple years. There will be a lot of growing pains and frustration with him, but you might as well play him 30 minutes a night and try and bring him along cause you really have nothing to lose at this point.

    Last year, this year’s seniors played their asses off on a nightly basis. Not a lot of talent, but they competed. Those same guys sans GP2 are not competing this year. They have to be repeatedly called out to play hard for a game. I’m not sure what has gone on with them mentally but LMW, especially, looks like he’s checked out for the season. Olaf wants to shoot and do nothing else. Jarmal took a cheap shot on a ref and has been very bad this season. Ending your college career like this is embarrassing. It’s time for Wayne Tinkle to move forward.

    Start Bruce, Payton, STJ, Tinkle, Eubanks now and then let N’Diaye and Rakocevic and Duvivier come off the bench. Hell, let Togiai get minutes too. I preferred benching Eubanks when there was something to play for this season, but now that’s pretty much done. Tell the seniors to enjoy the bench. Give the young guys and the returning players the minutes and build with them.

    • OSU Mammoths says:
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      I expect little from Bruc’s career. Thompson can get away with his floater here and there. Bruce will get swatted and offers not a lot on defense. Thompson is a liability at times on defense too. Having two guys like that on the floor makes it that much easier for the opposition to get off decent shots and find ways thru or over the defense. Think the best strategy is to give the whole team a twice a day testosterone shot. Aggressiveness and winner’s mentality are most in need to change the culture. Parker has had decades. Bring in some fresh blood and let Parker watch some games for free if need be to have him do what is best for Beaver Nation moving forward. If you are content to remain the same, you are doing nothing to change the perception of OSU Athletics. Shake it up and bring a new voice ready to win and be amongst the best of the Pac-12.

      • True Beavieler says:
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        I think it may be juuuuuust a tad early to determine Bruce’s value for his entire college career lol. He brings a TON of speed and quickness that can’t be taught. Let’s not give up on him quite yet.

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      I love the idea of playing the young guys. I don’t necessarily think the season is entirely lost (hoping for NIT) but no sense in playing seniors who are quitting. Maybe these seniors are frustrated because they know the young guys are nipping at their heels and frankly are the preferred players. If they are going to play like this though, bench them and see what the young guys got. If the seniors pout then they don’t deserve to see the court anyways. If they work hard and fight for the team then put them back out there.

  • Bill says:
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    What are home announcers supposed to say? We suck, let’s go home? That generates zero interest and hurts the brand. Trying to find positives in tough times is his job. Parker is limited in what he can say about the program. He cannot be brutally honest and go around criticizing the coaches or players during or after the game. Very few sports personalities can question their employers or fellow coworkers on the air without getting fired.

    However, I don’t think Parker’s has been a good announcer in the past few years. It seemed like his sobering up made his announcing worse. But I’d rather see the man sober vs better announcing.

    There were times in the past where he would be yelling at the referees in the basketball games to the point of getting tossed. There was one time several years ago, I think he stood up and screamed at the refs and his headphones ripped off. He went bananas when the referees ruled Yvenson Bernard had fumbled in the UW game back in 2007? His baseball play by play used to be much better. He talks too much now.

    It’s apparent that his time is winding down. I think when his contract is up, he should retire.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Bill, I especially agree with your first paragraph and, “I’d rather see the man sober vs better announcing”. That said, the effect of an announcer on the competitiveness of the team seems to me to be minimal at best.

    It would be interesting to hear Jim Wilson do play-by-play. He is a great and knowledgeable color man but that doesn’t, necessarily, translate into the pace of being the main p-by-p guy. I’ve noticed that he has drastically reduced his twitter activity over the last several months, FWIW. Wonder how close he is to being able to retire from the teaching gig.

    At any rate, we’ll soon get to hear Jay Reese doing the first several baseball games. I’ve always given him a pass on the assumption that he is operating without much in the way of technical or broadcast content support.

    And then, there is always Ron Callahan (sp?) doing WBB. Wonder what others think of him? Folksy?

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      I will chime in on this. I am not a Parker guy, he gets way to emotional during games and acts unprofessional many times. Now the “homer” fan will love this and call it passionate, but I think its useless over-the-top dramatic. You can be positive about the program without being over the top and you can call a spade a spade. Instead of the ancedotes I would prefer hearing more about the scene, which players are creaping towards the line, is it bump and run, what kind of zone defense is being played, or has the infield doing the wheel play on sacrifices. We are not there if we listening on the radio, he could do a better of painting the scene. What I do like is that he knows the players better and can identify them quicker and give insight on who is getting attention on the sideline.

      I do like Wilson, he is very calming and just blunt about things. I would be in favor of getting him a shot at the play-by-play but its a different animal for sure. Aune was the best at it, but that Rondo (UW announcer) is very good as well.

  • angry angry says:
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    Moving on past Parker…

    OSU needs more competitors and leaders. Very mentally weak programs.

  • Houston Beavs says:
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    Shiiiooott. Dis team Stinks again!!

    AINT NOBODY sayin” dat Tinks Stinks but fuuur reeel doe it only matterb of tiaaame yall

    yall get whut yall dezerve on dsrecruit trail. Relashionships matter yall!!!

    Neeed sum dem W’s yall. Aint Obamas step-bro aint mf’in Jay mutha F’n John!!@!1!!

    Dis team TRASH yall

  • Houston Beavs says:
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    I AINT TAKIN NO L’s YALL!!!1!!

    • Houston Beavs' English Teacher says:
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      You didn’t take any A’s, either.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        judging by his prison lingo, he took plenty of C’s and D’s

  • cj cj says:
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    Part of this year’s problem, IMHO, is that everyone started talking NCAA right after the recruiting class signed. You know, getting the cart ahead of the horse.

    So that’s what the expectations become and then disappointment follows soon after when reality strikes.

    Very similar to the CR team(s) after the first year’s CBI win. Every year it was “we’re going to the NCAA” this year. What did we get every year? The CBI!

    I think teams, to be elite status, need 1 great and 2 or 3 good shooters. One guy can’t carry a team night after night.

    • scotty says:
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      If we’re giving credit for exceeding expectations last year, it’s fair to be disappointed for falling short of them this year.

      Maybe one could argue the expectations are half the issue. It’s like when a company turns a profit in its financial report but didn’t meet analyst expectations. The stock goes down. But is the problem in the company not earning enough, or is it in the analysts just being wrong?

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        In an effort to back off the ledge somewhat, I decided it might be insightful to look at another OSU program that was on the rocks, Scott Rueck’s WBB team.

        Per wikipedia:
        1st year: 9-21 (2-16 in Pac play)
        2nd year: 20-13 (9-9)
        3rd year: 10-21 (4-14)
        4th year: 24-11 (13-5)
        5th year: 27-5 (16-2)

        Granted he walked into a program that was really in a shambles (Volleyball players as walk-ons?) but I think it’s also easy to forget that a bad year followed the 2nd year bump. It wasn’t until the 4th year that he made real headway and hd the foundation for a good program. The freshman on this team are that foundation for the men’s team. The seniors continue to give nothing, at least not on a regular basis.

        Also to Angry’s point “OSU needs more competitors and leaders. Very mentally weak programs.” Again, the women have some of those players on their team, Pat Casey has those players on his teams, not surprisingly those two programs lead the way at OSU.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Considering Mauigoa’s tweets and how quite it’s gotten regarding him, how does it look w.r.t. him signing with OSU?

    —————–
    Thank you OSU for having me here. I had a lot of fun on this visit.

    Visit to WSU was great, now looking forward to OSU.

    https://twitter.com/FMauigoa?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      The OV was very quick because of his flight he got in late on Saturday and left on Sunday. He was probably very tired, so I don’t know if we could read into too much (although I was thinking the same thing).

      It seems like a WSU lean, its close though. The staff knew it would be an uphill battle with him, the position coach at WSU has a sister who is the principal at his HS in America Somoa so there is an inside connection there.

      At this point its too close to call. This class maybe finished as it stands right now. I think Hirk and Frederick are the final two for the one remaining spot. If we get one of them its the cherry on top. But prepare yourself for this being the class.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    “a fiery leader who can make clutch shots and will the team to victory.”

    A recent piece in the O on Matt Boyd, along with orangejulius above, made me think how all three elements listed by angry are needed……and in a single individual.
    Compare Boyd with Seth; both could be fiery, both could “make the clutch shots”, only one could will the team to victory. That team focus by a talented and outspoken individual seems key.

    Rueck has Sydney just as Casey had Matt. Interesting that both of those players don’t hide their spiritual side which guides their sense of self worth/place in this world. Seems it takes skill, or a lot of luck, to recognize/recruit competitive kids who are also team focused. Not something the “star” system highlights.

    Is the word, “selflessness”?

    • jacksanass says:
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      Jim Jones, David Koresh, and many Catholic pedophile priest were/are great leaders and didn’t shy away from their spiritual side either. Hallelujah bro.

    • angry angry says:
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      I was thinking Sydney is the best leader and epitome of the type of player needed. Uber competitive and wills teams to victory. Obviously it doesn’t always result in victory, but it does result in highest team effort night in/out. Jamie is up there, too. I was keeping it to men’s sports, but if we expand those two are prime examples of what’s needed on the men’s team and in football (I think GA will get some with his past two classes).

      • Bill says:
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        I pointed this out a long long time ago, but if you look at the makeup of the women’s roster, you’ll see that most of them were winners in HS. They weren’t just good players, they were also leading their teams to titles.

        Thompson and Tinkle have this pedigree too.

        Those kinds of players find ways to win in any situation. Sometimes just getting the best athlete doesn’t work if they don’t know how to win.

        • angry angry says:
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          And it’s not surprising Tinkle stands out to me as the guy most likely to be that player for the men. Thompson not as much, but I do think he’s by far the 2nd best freshman. He’s tentative and not as confident as Tinkle. Thompson has been surprisingly good driving to the hoop and surprisingly mediocre at 3s. I don’t see the “bulldog” in him that I see in the women mentioned or Tinkle’s kid.

          • Bill says:
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            I see both of them acting as freshman who understand their roles and aren’t going to try to take over the team now. They are letting the seniors lead the way. No doubt that their Dad’s told them to do that. Next year, I see them taking a more vocal role.

          • Bill says:
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            Also, it’s time to put them into the starting lineup. Eubanks should come off the bench from now on.

          • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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            I don’t get the hate for Eubanks. The kid has been playing hoops for like 3 seasons. I think he has great upside. Does he hurt the ball club at times, yes. But so does Olaf and Malcom. I think we could really see his game develop into a prominent role. He has some work to do, get better footwork, develop a jump hook, and work on a mid range shot. But he is very athletic, has a frame that will add strength, and his effort is there. Yes he has gotten beat down at times this year, but I have not seen him go and hide, it will be a valuable learning year for him.

          • OSU82 says:
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            Eubanks has been playing about how you’d expect a freshman to. I think Tinkle needs to give him as much game time as he can. I can see him being a force by his junior year.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Over/under on the Samoan OL recruit being a Beav?
    Any rumors of signing day surprises?
    Got a chuckle last night. My brother was telling me that Athlon picked Nebraka as one of the possible “surprise” playoff teams next year. “We were in every game this year, unlike with Pelini.” The equivalent of “she almost went out with me.”

    • scotty says:
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      Not to worry. Riley will give up some nice blowouts besides Purdue soon enough, so he won’t have to wonder “what if”

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        He single handedly saved that Purdue coaches job. Way to go Mikey!

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    I’m not sure how you would go about effectively recruiting this attribute. At first blush, if you have leadership you need people who are willing to be led. I’m more inclined to believe that leaders will bubble to the top (if you’re lucky). I don’t see much success in putting 5/11 leaders out on the floor/field. In the end, you also need talent. I have some really smart and coachable kids on my 4th grade boys team. But, most of them can’t dribble, catch, pass, shoot or defend. It kind of limits my options.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Sounds like a coaching issue! Or you you need to recruit better.

      • marcodg marcodg says:
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        Coaching is the obvious problem.

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Yes, it goes beyond recruiting. And beyond coaching x’s and o’s.

          And a big part of coaching is creating the right team environment. Looking again at Casey and Rueck, from what is generally known, those two have very different approaches in this area. Would it be taken as non-pc to suggest that the different approaches used are suitable to the different genders?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        And don’t give me the airport excuse!

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Sounds like a team of mini Olafs.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
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    OT: I haven’t seen this mentioned here but in the world of really important stuff:

    “Researchers at Oregon State University say they have stopped the progression of fatal amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, known as ALS or Lou Gherig’s disease, in some types of mice using a new treatment.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2016/01/oregon_state_researchers_stop.html

  • Ripper Ripper says:
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    Time for a WBB thread?

  • AntiAngryBeaver says:
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    “Parker is a huge loser; though’

    Disagree 100%, and he’s accomplished more in life then you have or ever will. And I don’t even know you, other then you’ve created this pathetic little website for you to babble on with your insecurities. You’re a sad and pathetic person.

    Luckily you and the opinions on this site represent >5% of what the majority of OSU fans think.

    • calibeav calibeav says:
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      Easy there Mike!! Accomplishments are relative. Everyone has their own definition of success. Angry could be more successful and accomplished in his mind than you are and vice versa.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPCAvzIFY-s

      As for the what the majority of OSU fans think comment that’s simply not true. You don’t know what the majority of OSU fans think. Its not quantifiable.

      • OSU82 says:
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        and not only that…your “>” sign is pointing the wrong way!

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          That’s what happens when you don’t go to college.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Mike didn’t attend a real university

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            DeVry University, School of Useless Time Filling Facts and Bullshit No One Cares About? I know a guy who went there. He drives a cab too.

          • scotty says:
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            When you consider he went to U of O, it’s amazing he even knows how to put pants on. Maybe it’s because he attended back when it was closer to being an actual university instead of a Nike outpost

      • angry angry says:
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        It is subjective, but even objectively I’ve accomplished more than Parker, and he had like a 30 year head start.

        • marcodg marcodg says:
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          Whether or not that is true, how can you say such a thing? Is humility dead?

          • angry angry says:
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            Because I hate Parker and therefore want to rub it in.

            I like humility. The site has been around since 2008, and this is the first time I let it be known! Now that is humility.

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          I’m not sure you can be totally objective about that comparison, given you’re pro-you and anti-Parker

    • Doozeldorf says:
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      So the opinions on this website represent somewhere between 5.1% and 100% of 51% of OSU fans’ thoughts…

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      We’d call in and discuss it on the Joe Beaver show, but our main points would be spun to sound like all rainbows and unicorns.

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        Or Parker would make you out to be Fox Mulder. “Listen to this guy over here saying Riley isn’t the greatest argh argh.” He did it forever. Then when the inevitable happens, he suddenly thought it was high time for change.

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    I have an off-topic question about baseball. What happened between last year’s underachieving team, and this year’s team to get so much respect from the national media?

    I’ve seen multiple baseball polls to have the beavers in the top 10. We ended last season on a sour note. Our best pitcher left the program… What had happened to make everyone like our team?

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      Before I get roasted, maybe underachieving was too strong a word. I don’t feel with the way we finished last year we are deserving of a top 10. Why so much love?

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        East coast Bias?

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        That’s what happens when you’re one of the elite – that is, a program that’s actually won national championships (unlike the flying Hortons)

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      returning 2 of 3 in the starting rotation, added Cadyn Greiner and Nick Madrigal to the infield (saw Madrigal play last summer for the Corvallis Knights. Dude is the real deal and hella fast. Led the WCL in stolen bases despite not even playing the entire season), MAX (not Nate) Englebrekt returns after missing all of last year from injury to solidify the back end of games. This team was young last year and finished 2nd in the Pac. Almost everyone is back. Should be a much better team offensively. Did I miss anything else????

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        You missed Max Engelbrekt. He was pretty good before missing all of last year. I hope this Nate guy you mentioned is as good….

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          yeah I fucked up his first name. Don’t know why I wrote Nate. Edited. Sorry Max

      • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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        Thanks Whiskey! Lots to look forward to it would seem!

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          most previews I’ve seen have tabbed UCLA as the team to beat again this year but the Beavs were picked 2nd. I think this team can contend for the conference title. Couple more weeks until the PING!

  • homefry homefry says:
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    Hope the ladies represent tonight…need to starting winning the BIG games.

  • homefry homefry says:
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    In other news on the Olive site, a header stating “Angry recruit de-commits; disappointing end for Ducks: The Oregonian sports top 5”

    I clicked on it to see if it was Jack or Beavergopher….

  • DB says:
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    Back to Mike Parker….All I will say is, who says he has sobered up? Not going to say much more than that.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Anybody have any recruiting news?

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      per beavrecruiting on the twatter links above, Crater QB Matt Struck is going the JC route

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        I was looking for more under the radar, secret sources and back alley informants kind of stuff. But good for Struck, hope he makes it.

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          You’ll have to get a paid subscription to beaverblitz for that ????

        • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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          If you want to get all cryptic, coach Kauhaahaa just retweeted Coach Woods “welcome to the boneyard” tweet. Woods is the O-line coach, and Coach K is the main recruiter for our Poly recruits. Could it mean good news?
          Probably wont find out till signing day, but happy coaches is a good thing.

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            That’s what I like…..cryptic messages and the speculation that goes with it. I wonder what it means? And I’m serious, thanks Nicebeaver.
            But boneyard could just be them poking fun at the prehistoric bones found at the stadium. Or maybe an inside joke with the recruits about the bones?

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            There’s a guy who posts in a place that shall not be named. Did I say guy, I meant more of a beaver prophet. He pops in from time to time, sprinkles in a nugget of info, and vanishes as quickly as he appeared. I will put his message in code for you: He states the man child with a name fit for a “gladiator” will not be a beaver. And a game changing defender is 50/50 between us and ole Mississippi (and maybe Utah).

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            John has a long mustache, john has a long mustache.

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    BWBs in a dogfight with the She Devils. Entertaining game so far, but lots of turnovers

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      Lots of wild passes, they’d be up by 10 if half of those were not thrown out of bounds.

  • scotty says:
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    Every time they show Charli Turner Thorne, I get this wicked urge to visit Zillow.com

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      She looks like she’s going to have an anurisim in a few of those shots.

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        Hope not. She has a showing tomorrow with an open floor plan and updated kitchen.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Bwb up 14 after 3

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    Rueck taking a second mortgage out on the crazy realtor’s house. Blowout city

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Great game, wish this team showed up for the 3 losses

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Mandy….looking good as usual.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Bwb roll ASU 67-44

  • True Beavieler says:
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    Women w just stifling lockdown D. Tremendous rebounding. Yes, everything our men’s squad aint.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      A killer instinct and stepping on an opponents throat. When was the last time the men’s team had that trait?

  • Dansen Dansen says:
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    Made it to my first Lady Beavs game tonight, and man, they were dominant. The first quarter was even and to a lesser extent the second, but after halftime the Lady Beavs turned it on to another level. Made a majority of their shots, which were good looks and several fairly easy layups. Defense was suffocating as well and forced multiple shot clock violations and bad shots for the Zillows.

    Wiese is an absolute floor general; an excellent PG. I feel like she is to the women’s team what analysts always laud GP II is to the men’s.

    As alluded to above, what impressed me most was the killer instinct to bury ASU. No lapses on defense and no slowing down on offense when up by 10-20 points, just relentless.

    Rueck needs to be a guest coach at the men’s practice, or Tinkle needs to organize a field trip to a women’s practice. Something, please, to get the men’s team to play good defense. I seriously hope at least some of the men’s player were there tonight and took mental notes on defense.

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      A field trip lol…I guess it can be a trip down one flight of stairs since the women occupy the ground level of the basketball center. And there were actually quite a few men’s players at the game tonight.

      This was one of the most impressive performances they’ve had, and I’m glad that the women’s team is finally starting to win big games…took em longer than I’d hoped but at least it’s happening now.

      I think we’re a matchup nightmare for Arizona State. Very few teams execute the way we do, and although they go high pressure and have athleticism, they don’t have near enough size to deal with our team. They live off swinging and iso and penetration with an occasional post up, and that just is BBQ chicken for us since our ladies are good at cutting off the drive and even if that fails there’s Ruth right there. Their PG isn’t a threat to shoot, which just plays into our hands since they don’t have to play the shot at all. I took a gander at the NCAAW Reddit page and a couple ASU fans aren’t too happy about that game, thinking that given another chance their women would win. Nah…this was a total outclassing. It looked like Floyd Mayweather in his prime: incredible defense, opportunistic, efficient, and timely offense. ASU shot exactly the same percentage that we already give up: 30.9%, which our FG% defense leads D1.

      Now the ladies have the Washington schools ahead, and Friday they have to deal with Kelsey Plum who is the national leader in scoring and fricasseed us last year. Should be nice. I’m not sure this counts as a “big game” but it would be important since we don’t get another chance to beat ASU. UDub is at home and wants a win as much as we do.

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      Hey Dansen, if you’d have worn your AB hat I’d have bought you a coffee.

      Selflessness was mentioned earlier in regard to the kind of competitive leader every team needs. I watched Sydney exhibit body language and voice to encourage/congratulate Katie when Syd was on the bench. Just one example of why she seems to me to be the personification of selflessness.

      Two disappointments tonight: 1) turnovers, and 2) the realtor didn’t flip out to nearly the degree I expected.

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        I agree, WAY too many turnovers, I was surprised they committed some many and won by 20. Their defense is good and relentless. The men could learn from that.

        They won’t go very far unless they can cut down on the turnovers.

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        Well, she’s a realtor not a house flipper 🙂

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      I think with the men’s team is goes back to the good ol’ cliche of “chemistry”. The old and new are not mixing well this year. I hate everything Dana Altman stands for, but he seems to be able to do this year in and year out with new players.

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      Haha, “The Zillows” should be ASU wbb nickname

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    If you are interested in WBB, the realtor, and Sydney’s selflessness then you should read Eggers piece.
    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/291482-168848-weisner-beaver-women-deal-on-the-devils

  • Bill says:
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    Signing day tomorrow. Pretty much zero excitement. Don’t think there will be any surprises. No flips either way.

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      I agree it doesn’t seem like any of our guys will flip elsewhere as the coaches are selling the hell out of Corvallis, but if you really don’t think Andersen has at least 1 trick up his sleeve then I think you crazy.

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        Hopefully they get the 4* OL that just visited. That would make this a pretty good class.

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          Seems like everyone has him as a 50/50 meaning: no one knows.

          Personally I felt like his tweets seemed more positive during/after the Wazzu visit then ours, but strictly speculation. Think I read somewhere that one of the Cougars coaches is a family members best friend? Almost like an uncle? I don’t feel good about it, but I know nothing so who cares what I think?

          • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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            “…but I know nothing so who cares what I think?…”

            As I’m sure you already know, you’re not alone w.r.t. that.

            Us know nothings gotta hang out somewhere.

        • Oregon_State Oregon_State says:
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          I don’t know? Pullman does have a commercial airport! 😉

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    boregonlive article on baseball media day yesterday

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/02/video_despite_accolades_pat_ca.html#incart_river_home

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    How do you beat 11, 5* athletes? Say Alabama or Notre Dame. I know we have done it in the past. But how do you consistently beat those teams with a 3* average on your side? I understand the rating system is relative each year. Give me some of your thoughts.

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      Get Riley to guest coach against USC. He can chew his gum in the pasture for the other eleven games.

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        The only reason I would be ok with bring Riley back is so we can fire him immediately after the hand shake. You know….just for the satisfaction of it all.

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      Star ratings help us compare players individually, but having a whole team of 5* doesn’t always mean the team will be great. It also requires good coaches to put those players in the best position to win as a team. So I think a great coaching staff with a team of 3* can compete and ultimately beat a team of 5* with mediocre coaching staff. But a team of 3* with good coaches (OSU) isn’t going to beat a team of 5* with great coaches (Bama).

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      They r entirely different kids 4 years later. Strength and conditioning, discipline, technique, desire. These things u can develop and instill as u take them from kids to young men. Mix in missionary kidsand the fact that the star ssystem is far from perfect games become far less predictable. I had to listen to the national championship because i was at work. One of the commentators made a good point about really trusting ur strength and conditioning coach because they r with the kids the most. Im excited to c the team with another year in the new strength and conditioning program. I think its possible we c the power run game improve especially considering coach A talking about how weak the team is.

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        Good point on the S&C coach. I think Alabama is paying their coach like 1 mil.

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        Speaking of strength and conditioning: As I recall the rumor was Kalani Sitake was taking one or more of the strength and conditioning people with him along with others.

        Does anyone know exactly how many people he took, what department they were in and who they are?

        TIA

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          Tauki or whatever his name is, and I think that’s it.

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    I live in the Eugene area. Anyone who thinks Mike Parker is trash should listen to his counterpart down here. Even his own team’s fans think he’s trash, the entire lot of them yet he’s stayed in his current seat as long as I can remember following sports.

    Let me give you an example: one of my Duck friends and I were driving around a few years ago during a basketball game doubleheader (we were playing right after each other) and the Ducks game was first – since we were in the car, neither of us had a choice.

    After listening to the end of his game and flipping the station to the start of mine (the Beavers), five minutes in, my friend turned to me and exclaimed “Wow! I actually UNDERSTAND what’s going on in the game!”

    Mike is very good at calling the game, but he has too much of an emotional connection to the team a lot of the time. I think its a pitfall that a lot of “voice of” announcers fall into: they are around the team daily, and forge personal relationships with the entire staff, so they are much more reluctant to criticize people they feel are their friends. It’s a classic case of Adopted Homerism.

    I still listen to him when I can, although his penchant for missing plays in football games because he’s rambling irritates me no end… but at least he actually puts some passion into his broadcasts – even if it’s misguided: and he can actually call a game better than a lot of suits can. It’s the side stuff that’s bothering most of you. I’m not defending it, but that might explain it.

    If you think we would be better off without him, turn on five minutes of an Oregon broadcast and then tell me your head doesn’t hurt at all. We could do way worse than Mike Parker. Seriously.

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      as much of a homer as Riley is I have to agree with you. Jerry Allen is the absolute WORST homer and horrific announcer. How some duck fans have not pulled a Kurt Cobain listening to that hack is nothing short of a miracle

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      I agree, Mike Parker is a very good play by play broadcaster. I did try listening to some other teams’ radio, and they just weren’t as good. Parker has his quirks, but I very much enjoy his broadcasts and will be sad when he retires. And I’m saying this even as the guy who gets and gives the most flak probably second to Dave in Tumwater calling on the JB show 🙂

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    I listened to him during one of the last men’s basketball games and thought he had improved. I’ve long suspected he reads AB so, perhaps . . .

    During baseball games, he has a most annoying habit; batter hits the ball – MP is editorializing about something – and FINALLY tells you what happened, a hit, an out, an error, run batted in?

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Don’t know if anybody caught this, way to represent Ryan Murphy! http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14702005/super-bowl-50-denver-broncos-safety-ryan-murphy-sent-home-being-detained-part-prostitution-sting

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    Gee golly, how are the Oregon State Beavers looking for NLI day tomorrow?

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Like we have a coach who cares for once.

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        Yep. Rank 40. Sounds about right for them Beavers. Best of luck tomorrow!

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          Sounds awful good compared to the last guy.

          But then a moniker like that would suggest you believe luck is a real thing… and a neat deal.

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            It is a neat deal Jack and you know that’s what is great about college football and recruiting; sometimes you get the players and sometimes they flip to a rival school but the experience is what makes it enjoyable for both the coaches and the student athletes.

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            Are you done with your mush-fest?

            You make recruiting sound creepy.

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    Schedule for tomorrow:
    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=210636320

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Sounds like we got some transfer DT help fromm Utah tonight

    http://247sports.com/Player/David-Fangupo-29230

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      3 star JC DT that was a Utah commit. Interestingly he had verballed to Hawaii first then flipped to Utah. Could this be the first late flip for GA and staff? Find out tomorrow. For once it is nice to see the OSU coaching staff still working on guys committed elsewhere until the clock strikes zero. Unlike Mediocre Mike. Would be nice to get some late flips going the Beavs way instead of losing guys the same way.

    • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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      Actually a flip of a JUCO player formerly committed to Utah. Suck it Utes!

    • Jared says:
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      You gotta watch this kids highlights…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxrTIU7VbyM http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4079730/highlights/312345375/v3

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        granted those were only highlights but some of those plays he looked like a man amongst boys putting OL on their asses. High motor and good behind the play pursuit. I miss having players like that. Anyone remember Bill Swancutt?

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    After considering a great offer from Angrymams, I’ve decided to commit to Angrybeavs and the University of Oregon State. #taking my talents to virtual Corvallis.

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      #blessed

    • Homefry Homefry says:
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      Olive update: Angry recruit flips back to OSU, beaver blitz miffed. Let’s welcome our Newest poster Beavergopher from Minnetonka, Minnesota.

  • just a Fan says:
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    What happened to this site ? it’s Dead on a big signing day

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    Parker is sounding great on another channel…Just saying

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    Thread up for signing day!

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