15.May.2011 Public Embarrassments & Baseball

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I guess the big news is Castro Masaniai being charged with 5 offenses, ranging from kidnapping to criminal mischief. Uh, what the hell happened there? That's the second public blemish this week. Not good. If he kidnapped a farm animal I'm seriously switching allegiance.

The Mike Parker thing…I didn't/don't care too much, but I've seen people blowing up and saying the guy should be fired since he's the public voice of athletics. Eh, I agree, and wouldn't care if he were fired. But, I also disagree due to pure apathy. Meaning, I just don't care if he isn't fired, either. I'd rather spend energy on other things, but sure, gun to my head I don't see how you can keep a self-proclaimed, public drunkard on payroll. Plus, is it me or has Parker become insufferable? I can't stand listening to the guy…more so than ever. I was actually enjoying the Washington announcers yesterday. They were light-hearted, funny, unemotional, all business, and self-deprecating. It's no wonder Parker gets tight and eats napkins–his entire emotional being is vicariously wrapped into how 18 year old jocks perform.

Moving on…

As high as the baseball team was riding (people writing it was a "lock" OSU would be a national seed), they're plummeting just as fast, now sitting 20th+ in RPI and probably out of super regional discussions. Conclusion: people, including Kendall Rogers and Aaron Fitt, don't understand RPI. News flash: a team can drop significantly despite winning a series. Anyway, it is still possible the Beavs earn a top 8 finish depending on the next six games and how the top 12 teams shake out. GaTech has played strong down the stretch. I think have a shot to overtake the Beavers for a national seed. I'd say the Beavers are 9th or 10th right now, on the outside looking in. They better screw their heads on straight and just worry about hosting a regional, because even that isn't a lock at this point unless they win the conference. The ASU sweep was a long time ago, and people are beginning to notice OSU ambling toward the finish line.

Speaking of ASU, they lost to USC again today. The notion that the Beavers are going to cruise through the USC and Oregon series…well, I don't like it nor am I buying it. That ASU lost again increases the odds of hosting a regional…

Talk about this stuff or anything else you'd like. There's nothing going on for the next week.

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  • BeaverBeliever20 says:
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    The Beavers are still in great shape for a national seed despite the RPI. Their resume is far too good not to be a national seed, most college baseball analysts agree. As long as they win their next two games they’ll be a national seed. They have great numbers against ranked teams, RPI top 25 and top 50. If they win their next two series only them and Virginia(as long as UVA wins the series from UNC next weekend) would be the only teams not to lose a series the entire season. I think they will have won the Pac-10 outright title. That’s too good to ignore. The committee likes for the national seeds to be in the RPI top 10 but are willing to look passed that if a team like OSU has a great resume and they do.

    As long as the Beavers take care of business the next two weekends they’ll be a national seed.

    • angry angry says:
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      Disagree 99%. The committee doesn’t watch west coast baseball, loves RPI, and hates OSU. A bubble team has never made the tournament with an RPI above 55, yet an RPI of 20 is going to crack the top 8? I don’t see it.
      The sad fact is that sweeping the next two series (i.e. 6-0) will lower our RPI even further (probably to the 24 range). A loss in each series and we’re in the 30s. No resume will overcome that. The Beavers need the next two series to be rained out entirely. Short of that, they have to go 6-0 and hope the numbers of wins/winning series is persuasive enough. In this sense, ASU losing is bittersweet.

      • BeaverBeliever20 says:
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        I can see why you would think that. I just hate they’re being penalized in conference play because UW, USC,and Oregon haven’t been good. It’s not as if they have control of that scheduling wise. It’s why the RPI needs to be fixed ASAP. Virginia played a mostly awful nonconference schedule and they’re what 2nd in the RPI? It’s unfortunate college baseball penalizes the Beavers for what conference foes do. Hopefully the committee actually looks at the Beavers resume and realizes the Beavers are worthy of being a national seed and not just look at the RPI.

        • angry angry says:
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          I think Hartford is killing us more than bad conference foes. They have won only 3 games all year and have an RPI of 290! We need Hartford to win out! lol

          And ASU losing is bad because it takes away from our sweep, which is the highlight of our resume right now. Ideally we want ASU, Stanford, UCLA to all win out along with us.

          • BeaverBeliever20 says:
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            ASU and UCLA can’t win out actually. They play in the final series. Stanford needs to win out though. They lost a series to Oregon which hurts but hopefully they win out.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    USC has played much better in conference and Oregon will have the rivalry factor, so I agree that neither series is a lock and I could see the Beavers stumbling and going 1-2 in one of them or even both.

    As for Parker, I think he has become a little over the top in his approach to announcing, but personally I could give two shits if he gets drunk and eats napkins as long as he is sober at work and does not drink and drive. I do think there are easier ways to get fiber in your diet, but to each his own. Whatever OSU wants to do with him is their call. I always preferred Darell Aune anyway (not exactly sure what happened to him as I was not living in Oregon at the time).

    • angry angry says:
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      Whatever OSU wants to do with him is their call

      That’s how I feel, too, but I’d like to see him get canned just becomes he’s become so damn annoying. He whines like a little girl over the dumbest calls, and constantly talks about how the game “should have” turned out versus how it did. It’s like he doesn’t understand that the elements, human factors, etc are part of the game and must be overcome, and that there is ample time to overcome “bad calls” or other perceived injustices in any given game. The guy has just become very jaded and myopic.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        Yeah, I raised my eyebrows a few times with all these pundits saying he is one of the “best announcers in the country”. I think he has a distictive voice, but I don’t see it to that degree. Maybe it is the booze that has made him more “whiny”. I don’t think he is an especially insightful interviewer either for what it’s worth, but I guess you have to be a “homer” in that regard.

        FYI…I am listening to a Portland TV announcer botch Masaniai’s name. They just said he has been suspended indefinitely….jerked his girlfriend forcefully out of a McDonald’s in front of a lot of people if I am hearing it right.

  • angry angry says:
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    I assume Masaniai will be kicked off the team. With Fred Thompson out for the year, we’re officially screwed. Glover just became a starting DT, and that is scary.

    • ean says:
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      I dunno. I think he stays. He was good enough to get a few plays at DT and I think the coaches are planning on playing him next year. Sounds a lot like the LaMike James thing that happened at UofO…. granted James is better and gets more slack but I would be surprised if Castro is out more than 2 or 3 games for this. We’ll see though… the real story isn’t really known yet.

      • ean says:
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        then again…. wtf is he doing at McDonalds? And they list him at 340… lots of excess weight. I am not thinking he will be a big time contributor anyway.

        • mckalk mckalk says:
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          Yeah, not to mention the land of Happy Meals and Ronald is not exactly the best place to be fighting with your girlfriend. You your head and some common sense, Castro.

  • Geoff Whittier says:
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    who gives a shit what he does on his own time. The guy got hammered and ate a napkin. I’ve done shit 100 times worse while loaded. Probably some things I don’t even remember or know I did. Besides, a napkin soaked in some egg yolk or maple syrup might be tasty!

    The Beavs will be hosting a regional if they win the Pac-10. Fact. As for being a national seed? Maybe. Go 4-2 in these last 6. Not sure what the RPI of the conference is. But that alone may merit a national seed. You wanna see a joke? Go look at Arkansas baseball schedule. No way are they a top 20 team. I highly doubt they make it out of a regional.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    I figured someone that posts here regularly was the one tweeting Aaron Fitt about the Beavers losing a national seed with a 20 RPI, but Fitt seems confident they get a National Seed anyway.

  • locusimperium says:
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    Parker is my favorite. His calls are deeply nostalgic for me. Homerism? of course. For the same reason I like listening to Wheels. I don’t believe in an enlightenment-inspired objective ideal that is unbiased and “fair.” Maybe the engineers at OSU can start working on a play-by-play robot?

  • DavemanDeluxe says:
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    I think OSU is just about a lock to host a regional. We’d have to lose one series, and maybe both, to lose the regional host. I don’t see us losing either of them. To have a chance at a national seed, I think we need to win the next six straight, and I don’t see that happening the way the team loses focus once we’ve won a series. Even if we don’t get a seed, I like our chances to get to Omaha, because they do play well when the stakes are high. It wouldn’t be ideal to travel to a super regional, but it can be overcome.

    I grew up with Mike Parker, so I like him just fine. I can see why somebody might want a more objective announcer, but I find his style entertaining. I appreciate his references to history, and the way he gets into the games helps me get into them too even though I’m not able to watch. I agree it’s a irritating that he talks about “should have beens”. (EDIT: I know part of his philosophy is to make sure somebody who just tuned in is always aware of the situation, so that may be why he does this. That said, he could do it without lamenting what “should have been”. He should just describe the error without the editorializing.) If he’s not committing crimes while drunk or showing up to work drunk, I don’t see why you would fire him.

    I wish that Jim Wilson were in the booth more often. He brings a more analytical angle to the game, especially when he’s talking about pitchers. I also feel like he’s a little bit cooler-headed, so he brings a bit of the objectivity that Parker sometimes lacks. They’re a good combo.

    • angry angry says:
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      Agree on the regional and Jim Wilson (he is awesome).

      Parker is fine when he isn’t whining…now that I see what he does after loses, I just feel sad listening to the guy. I imagine if they lose he just goes him and drinks himself into a stupor, and that image makes me cringe a little while listening to a game (especially a loss).

      • helmsley says:
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        I, too, like Jim Wilson’s insights and commentary, but imo his voice is sooo scratchy – I always wish he would pop a cough drop or two.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Castro situation…dude got in argument with his girlfriend at Mcdonalds. Some boner called the fuzz and someone has to go to jail. Trying to pull your girlfriend outside during a fight is kidnapping?

    Sounds blown out of proportion,and I’d guess he cops to a misdemeanor and plays next year.

  • JackBeav says:
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    Looking at the laundry list of charges for Castro, I was inclined to just be done with him. After thinking about it a little, I’m not so sure. The Corvallis PD is inclined to arrest someone for public urination and slap him with public lewdness, indecent exposure and a violation of the Clean Water Act. When the police show up for a domestic violence call, typically someone has to be arrested as a matter of policy. And shooting a spitball in Corvallis is attempted murder. So I guess we just wait to see what really happened. I’m inclined to have little sympathy for anyone who manhandles a woman. So it’s possible that he just needs anger management counseling based on harassment and/or disorderly conduct.

    The reports all say he “tried” to remove the girl from McDonalds. If she was never removed, and there was no fear for from injury (a weapon), there is absolutely zero case for kidnapping based on even the most liberal interpretation of that law as put forth by the Oregon Supreme Court.

    Criminal mischief II requires damaged property over $500. If he broke a window, this could be why the police were called in the first place.

    Coercion AND kidnapping are an odd pairing in this case. Either he convinced the girl to leave by threats of some kind, or he physically did so, and succeeded in either case. Which is it?

    I won’t try to defend manhandling a woman or having a fight in public. They just are what they are, and counseling and probation should be required.

    • Beavker says:
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      Yeah, I’m sure it’s true love (Sarcasm), but he needs to think about kicking ass on the field, then he can pick and choose his next chick…a nice subserviant one that is impressed by his rise to fame instead of one that apparently ‘knew him when he was a bag boy’ type thing.

  • JackBeav says:
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    With Parker… who cares?

    The people who have rushed to his defense are the ones who make this a big deal. It’s natural for good friends to cloister him from public ridicule since they so failed to do so in the first place. But they have no right to do so in the end. And fans who would do the same are just self-serving know-it-alls who want their ego served.

    Mike had it right in his apology, which I think should only be directed at his family, friends and maybe his employer since he was on a business trip. It’s his problem. It is what it is. And he hopes to make what it is never happen again.

    If he thinks it constitutes extreme embarrassment and shame, then I guess there are people in this world who grew up in a bubble full of flowers and lollipops.

    He’ll be on “probation” for the rest of his life. But I think he can handle it.

    As far as his style is concerned, it’s been complained about before, and it will be complained about for however long he does it. No, he’s no Darrel Aune, who, last I heard, is an announcer for Western Oregon. But he’s not Jerry Allen either. And I’m thankful for that whenever I hear Allen and his “what could have been” after every single play.

    Yes Jerry, we get it. If nobody would have tackled the ball-carrier, he would have scored, just like on the last play.

  • JackBeav says:
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    In other news, Garrett Embry was arrested for DUII and pot possession while trying to drive down the railroad tracks at 15th and Jefferson last Thursday night/Friday morning at 3am. Our coaches should be asking questions about why he’s hanging around Corvallis.

    • UofDuck says:
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      Hey Jack:

      Total side note, been looking for leanings on Thomas Tyner? Any thoughts? You seem to have a good pulse on local recruiting.

      • JackBeav says:
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        I’m not sure. If he stays local, I’m sure the Ducks get him. But he may want to go somewhere his talents are coached up to be elite instead. aTm and LSU are known as consistent top of the heap for sprinters, and Florida and Florida State have the luxury of a couple top flight sprinters just being on their teams.

        And I’m assuming here that he drops football for his real talent, sprinting. He can be an international superstar who lives 10 or 20 seconds at a time. Why would he subject his body to the eventual degradation that happens in football?

        I think Jeff Demps is an idiot for playing football as well. I think Tyner has more upside than Demps ever did, but Demps could be making millions on the Diamond League if he just dropped the lousy rock and committed to running.

        In the end, I think he stays with football. It will be unfortunate, but it’s his life.

        In that case, I guess it really depends where he wants to go. If he’s thinking he stays in state, I have no clue where he leans. I would guess Nikegon due to recent success, but depth at RB could halt that thought.

        I would say that the first school to walk into his home and offer a full track scholarship while laying out a plan for his T&F future will be the one to get him. He’s made more noise lately about being committed to running than he has about football recruiting. Part of that is that it’s running season. But I think a lot has to do with how people are advising him as well.

        I would applaud that decision.

    • osbeavs says:
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      I find it curious that they recently added railroad tracks to Jeff and 15th.

      • JackBeav says:
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        Sorry, he was stopped at that light. He was driving the tracks next to Cascade Hall between 17th and 15th, and he drove north to Jeff before he was stopped by campos (aka OSP).

      • JackBeav says:
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        But now that you mention it, it would make for a nice trolley ride from downtown to the MU.

  • angry angry says:
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    Two polls are out.

    BA has the Beavs at #2 (same)
    USA Today as the Beavs at #7 (last week they were tied with ASU for 7th). ASU dropped all the way to 12 in that poll.

    Good news for the Beavs that they’re not plummeting in the polls…NCAA hasn’t released their RPIs for this week yet. Boyd has OSU at #20 in RPI, and he’s usually very close.

  • JackBeav says:
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    18 today, and his own power rating of 10. Nothing on the Coaches or CBN polls.
    http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2011/schedule/Oregon-State

    • JackBeav says:
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      ASU only goes from five to seven with a series loss. So I would say that this week’s series is pretty important.

    • JackBeav says:
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      I think I see. USA and Coaches are one and the same?

      • angry angry says:
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        Yes, this is the poll: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/baseball/usatpoll.htm

        I’m not sure when or why it got linked with ESPN…
        The 2011 board: The USA TODAY/ESPN Board of Coaches is made up of 31 coaches at Division I institutions. All are members of the American Baseball Coaches Association. The board for the 2011 season: Terry Alexander, Jacksonville; John Anderson, Minnesota; Ed Blankmeyer, St. John’s; Rob Cooper, Wright State; Sherman Corbett, Texas-San Antonio; Tim Corbin, Vanderbilt; Greg DiCenzo, Holy Cross; David Eldredge, Southern Utah; Mike Gaski, North Carolina-Greensboro; Nino Giarratano, San Francisco; Gary Gilmore, Coastal Carolina; Keith Guttin, Missouri State; Danny Hall, Georgia Tech; Daniel Heefner, Dallas Baptist; Loren Hibbs, Charlotte; Charlie Hickey, Central Connecticut State; George Horton, Oregon; Steve Jaksa, Central Michigan; Omar Johnson, Jackson State; Rick Jones, Tulane; Steve Kittrell, South Alabama; Kevin Leighton, Manhattan; Gary McClure, Austin Peay; Mervyl Melendez, Bethune-Cookman; Gary Powers, Nevada; Mark Scalf, North Carolina-Wilmington; Jim Schlossnagle, TCU; Matt Senk, Stony Brook; Doug Smith, UC-Riverside; Steve Smith, Baylor; Bob Whalen, Dartmouth.

        Horton…lol

  • angry angry says:
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    Collegiate Baseball moves the Beavs up one spot to #2
    Perfect Game (Ken Rogers) moves them up from #5 to #4….

    RPI might be slipping, but the ranking is going up. Good news. Looks like a National Seed is still in the offing. The NCAA can’t ignore a team ranked in the top 5 in every poll…need to finish strong. I’m now thinking 5 of 6 will secure the deal.

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      It’s the Beavs’ strength against the top 25 and 50 that’s helping them out. The RPI is a helpful tool and deserves the attention paid to it, but it does punish teams with weak schedules even if they have a number of quality wins. I think OSU is 13-3 against the top 25, so I would think an observer would assume their RPI would be higher with a stronger schedule.

      I don’t think we’ll win six of six, but it’s really tough to tell whether we’ll sweep one series, and if so, which one. USC is tough but we do have them at home, but it’s also not the last series and so the team might fall asleep again since they’ll have another chance for a sweep in the offing. But UO will be out for blood and if I remember correctly their pitching is solid, so if we have a bad game at the plate and on the mound, we could easily drop one.

      I’m excited to see how this shakes out. I’m finishing finals on Wednesday so I’m excited to be able to pay more attention to the team now. Maybe even watch some of the games.

    • JackBeav says:
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      Winning both series with a sweep of one should make us a lock. I think even 4 of 6 gets us there if we win both series. Nikegon still has two games against Gonzaga and one against Portland. Their series win against Stanford didn’t help our RPI, and USC’s win against ASU was a double whammy. Since those are the only teams we haven’t played yet, we need to down them both to bring the RPI back to reality.

      I guess we cheer for Nikegon tomorrow and the next day since that only helps the league RPI.

      Series wins aren’t etched in stone. I hope the boys are gearing up for a fight in both. 41 or 42 wins gets us in the discussion with solid arguments. 40 wins puts us on the bubble and likely playing a SR somewhere else.

      Texas loses ground to aTm (14 to 10), but they still move from 12 to 11 after a DH with Texas Southern?

      Ok.

      • JackBeav says:
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        I’m pretty sure the winner of the UT/aTm series gets a national seed. And the same will happen for the winner of Florida St and Clemson. Florida, Vandy, UNC, Virginia and usc should all be locks barring any major meltdowns, with usc being most vulnerable. But they should be safe with series wins over Florida and Vandy.

        Although, a Virginia sweep of UNC gives GaTech an argument to replace UNC since they beat them this last weekend. UNC hasn’t helped themselves by losing three of their last four series.

        If we lose either of our series while GaTech wins out, our SR most likely ends up in Atlanta or Chapel Hill.

  • Beavocalypse says:
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    Meh on Parker.

    If I did the same thing at my work I’d be canned. So- I wouldn’t be saddened if he was.

    Castro’s thing looks to me like it has been blown WAY WAY WAY out of proportion. Still, I think it’s alarming that our DT’s have acted like retards right before it is critical for them to play (See: Olander).

    I think in response to these issues, all the coaches/employees in OSU’s athletic department, and professors should get together and create a clear, concise policy in order to protect this image of being family friendly.

    Honestly, I think every athlete should be forced to go through some sort of healthy relationships meeting. Lot of players sexually assaulting, choking, and “kidnapping” their partners lately. For a school that proclaims a family atmosphere, OSU sure misses out on opportunities to put their money where their mouth is. Someone the other day mentioned that there should be a character agreement, which says they will not be involved in criminal activity of any kind- and if they break it, they are out. OSU needs to be creative about these sort of things in order to find a leg up on other institutions when it comes to keeping their record clean.

    • JackBeav says:
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      “If I did the same thing at my work I’d be canned.”

      You work at Denny’s? 🙂

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        I actually don’t think I would be fired for eating a napkin at work, but being drunk yes.

    • Xcalifguy says:
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      A clean record won’t lead to recruiting better talent. Not that I disagree with you necessarily that OSU should strive to keep the student body out of trouble, but shit’s going to happen with 18-21 year olds. Don’t think you can have a hardline policy that doesn’t consider circumstances of the situation.

      • Beavocalypse says:
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        “Shit’s gonna happen with 18-21 year olds”

        I’m tired of that sentiment. I used to endorse it a couple years ago when I was younger, mostly because I thought the police were a bunch of dicks. As I grew up, I realize that cops are “dicks” because on the whole they have to be. Trying to control society from getting fucking retarded can do that to a person.

        The reality of this situation is that most 18-21 year olds don’t get into legal trouble. MIP’s every now and then, but on the whole the average “kid” isn’t choking their girlfriend, stealing Macs, ramming a bus stop with their car, getting into loud, public fights with their girlfriend at McDonald’s- yet we go out of our way to forgive these players because they have athletic talent.

        Most people in the same situation would have to do some serious work to recover from multiple misdemeanors or even felonies, but these players get second and third chances while getting their college paid for. We reward far too many ass-clowns in our society (See: Everyone in political power right now) and it would be refreshing if OSU could take a stance and demand character from their athletes.

        But no worries, as long as enormous amounts of money go into the sport we won’t need to worry about little things like integrity. That way we can keep the case by case, wacky precedents where some players get another chance and others don’t.

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          A little too cynical? i can see where you’re coming from. But I always stick with the seven-per-cent solution. That is to say that if you take any one subset of society, any group, any club… I can guarantee you that 7% of those people are hinky.

          They can’t help it. They are just that way.

          I would call it the pecking order of intelligence, but only 3-4% get caught. The other half are master manipulators.

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            had to look up hinky, thanks for the new word

        • Xcalifguy says:
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          RE: Beavocalypse – The reality of this situation is that most 18-21 year olds don’t get into legal trouble…..

          Your point is taken, however whether you’re sick of the sentiment, it’s reality and people deserve a “fair trial”. Your original point was there should be a standard code everyone signs, if they break it they’re gone. Yes, if they choke their girlfriend or beat the crap out of someone, they should be gone. If they get an MIP (like you), should they also be gone? Point is, there are varying degrees of severity involved. They need to be handled situationally. Making everyone sign something is fine, being willing to hold firm to the rules instituted may end up being stupidity if taken to the extreme.

          Unfortunately, talented athletes are also sometimes “ass clowns” (Tiger Woods anyone?)

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            I’m not sure what to think of the Castro situation. The kidnapping charge has been dropped, so it seems like this offense has become less serious. Personally, I don’t feel bad conduct deserves a second chance.The reason being that it reinforces/rewards negative behavior, and the program as a whole receives the wrong message. I’d kick this player off the team. I’d have also kicked Olander off the team last year. Clear messages > foggy messages.

            The sympathetic types believe everyone deserves a second chance. It’s not a terrible stance, but these people should pay attention to how many second chances actually pan out. As a devote follower of the “true crime” genre, I can tell you that by adulthood character/behavior (whether good or bad) is engrained and highly unlikely to change. This is why you see burglars rob and murderers kill the day they’re released from jail. It’s been shown that Castro has anger and judgment issues, and it’s now a matter of when they spring up again.

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    Anyone know anything about receiver offer Alex Jackson from Culver City, CA? Any videos? He looks like he can play.

    Found this:

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      I know his first name is Sylvester, and he has decent track times.

      That reminds me, DeAnthony Thomas hasn’t been heard from since the rumors that he would be ineligible for the track season about a month ago. Anyone hear anything on him?

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    Off topic, I think USC is making a major mistake. I mean, they should keep rolling with Nike.
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-0513-usc-apparel-20110513,0,2131575.story

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    This may have been posted above, but I didn’t see it.

    Oregon State University football player Castro Masaniai, 21, was arraigned Monday in Benton County Circuit Court on charges of coercion, harassment and second-degree criminal mischief after an incident in which he allegedly dragged his child’s mother through a restaurant on Saturday.

    So, kidnapping is off the table…which is nice.

    At best, dude has some anger management issues. At worst, he should get kicked off the team. I don’t know about this one. I’m fine with whatever decision the coaching staff makes I guess.

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/article_27007210-8067-11e0-a24d-001cc4c03286.html

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    Looking like the Beavers are out of the running for a national seed after this weekend. RPI even with two sweeps probably is at 22-25. It’s funny, if UNC takes 2 of three from Virginia and Virginia loses in the ACC Tournament and the Beavers win 5 of their last 6, for the first time that I can remember the #1 team in the country won’t be a national seed. That would look bad for the committee. The Beavers not being a national seed ultimately won’t be that much of a big deal, they could definitely host a regional like they did in 2006 after Stanford went to Texas and upset the #3 national seed and ended up winning that regional seed. Upsets happen in regionals so the Beavers would have a shot at hosting a regional.

    If the national seed the Beavers were paired with advanced to the super regional, the only issue would travel. It’s not much of an issue, but still matters a little bit. I would probably see them going to Virginia for a super regional or South Carolina.

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      Just to clarify, I said they’re out of the running because nobody seems to have them in solidly as a national seed anymore citing their RPI as the reason why and their RPI will only get worse against USC and Oregon. It’s also expected the committee won’t reward them for a great year with a national seed because of their RPI. I’d be shocked if they got a national seed now.

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        Sweeps won’t drop their RPI. ASU goes from five to seven after losing the series to USC and just having their SOS dinged with us and others in the Pac falling on that indices. And if Texas rises one spot after playing two games against Texas Southern, then we have something to scream about if this index does not do the same for us after a couple ~100 teams.

        In the end, we just have to win, or we aren’t having this discussion.

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        100 is around the cut off point where a win drops your RPI.

        So, they’ll drop further even with sweeps, but they should rise in any human related poll/ranking, which will put a ton of pressure on the selection committee (i.e. guys like Rogers and Fitt are in the Beav’s corner). OSU could cause some controversy this year. They’re on the bubble (I’m leaning towards them getting a NS if they win 5 out of 6, no easy task). I’m not sure if there’s ever been a NS with such a low RPI, but if not they do deserve to be the first. Their entire season shouldn’t be negated because they agreed to play Hartford, and the humans should/will realize this…

        A strong finish is mandatory, obviously.

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          But that’s the point I’m making. Hartford may have its flaws, but one of them isn’t getting a winning feeling by playing non-D1 schools. Texas Southern is guilty of this so they can maybe sometimes beat teams with RPI’s similar to theirs and Hartford’s. Texas played them twice on Saturday, and their RPI went from 12 to 11.

          We played a better UW team (according to RPI), and ours went from 10 to 17 after two wins (before the loss in the third game).

          Should this index work this way?

          And UNC is dangerously close to not even getting a regional. They’ve lost three of their last four series. They’re in the mid-teens in most polls, and they’re going backward. Their RPI is the only reason they’re even in the discussion. Who else gets to spend the last half of their conference schedule backing into a national seed?

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            Should this index work this way?

            No. It definitely shouldn’t.
            That is why Boyd made the ISR (OSU at #8), and it’s why I think OSU could stir a lot of controversy if guys like Rogers and Fitt remain fans. They have the clout to call out the NCAA, who clearly hates OSU for some reason (would love to find out why…maybe all the protests and petitions I send them!?!).

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            College Baseball Daily has us as a 3 seed and UT and aTm getting in at 7 and 8. They also have UNC barely getting a regional seed at 15 (paired with their #2 South Carolina). They would send Fresno to Corvallis (Ugh!) and pair us with Fullerton.

            http://www.collegebaseballdaily.com/2011/05/18/2011-ncaa-baseball-regional-projections-may-18th/

            I agree with the comments about TCU not deserving a regional. But they argue for Stetson while I would argue for UCONN. UVA sure doesn’t get it easy in this scenario with UCONN and Cal in their regional.

  • sparkyd73 says:
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    Interesting article about the demotion of OS Trainer.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2011/05/football_trainer_barney_graffs.html

    Certainly has seemed that injuries have not been treated quickly and that those nagging problems turn into bigger issues.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    BeaverBeliever20: How are you figuring that even with two sweeps we end in the 22-25 RPI range? According to Boyd’s RPI Needs report, assuming all teams close the season out at their to-date winning percentage, if we sweep we end up with the #16 RPI. That RPI tied with being top 5 in pretty much all polls and top 2 in a couple still puts us well in range of a national seed.

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      It doesn’t really matter what Boyd thinks. OSU dropped from 11th to 20th after going 3-1 last week.

      http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1

      They will end up with an RPI in the 20s if they sweep, so it will come down to the humans overriding that or not. I think 5 of 6 is a strong finish, and they’ll have won every Pac-10 series, which should be enough to overlook the RPI (which is being crushed by Hartford and their 3 wins). Again, Hartford should not determine our season and override sweeps of Stanford and ASU and our record vs the top 25, and the humans should have the common sense to see that. NCAA does not like OSU, though. Guys like Rogers and Fitt need to keep on our bandwagon and put pressure on the committee.

      (I guess we should wait to see if we actually win the remaining games, huh? If we lose it’s all moot).

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    Virginia loses to UNC tonight. If the Beavers take care of business this weekend and UNC wins the series the Beavers are likely to become the #1 team in the country on Monday. South Carolina and Vanderbilt also lost. I wonder how much it would help the Beavers if both of those teams lost their series as far as national seeding goes.

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