02.May.2012 General Discussion

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Sorry guys. Been busy, and haven't had time to write anything.

Nothing too interesting going on. Regarding Oregon, I heard the NCAA will come to a decision in June.

Regarding the Beavs, that was an uninspired spring camp. Fall should be more interesting with the new guys showing up. Maybe the one interesting bit this spring is that Vaz has become a player. Always liked his potential. But I still think Richie Harrington is the best QB on this roster.

Anyway, discuss anything you want. I'll check back in on Friday for baseball.

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  • Beaver Byte says:
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    Just found a good read on the very reason Washington aggressively went after Justin Wilcox. Primarily and way beyond anything else is because of his established ability to beat Oregon. He held them to 9 points and beat them twice at Boise St. I obviously love the idea of Wilcox at Oregon State. Instead of being unsure if we can beat the Ducks or hang with them even once a decade we could literally start imagining the idea of beating them. Doesn’t hurt that he is a recruiting beast either.

    Wilcox Hired to Beat Oregon:
    http://beaverbyte.com

    • OSUUUUU says:
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      just stop posting on this board, frankly, no one really cares what your uninteresting articles have to say

      • Jack says:
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        He gets a voice. So long as he keeps it tame or doesn’t spam (or get repetitive) he gets to post as he likes. If you have a specific counter to something he’s saying, then say it. Otherwise, you’re being small-minded for not absorbing or ignoring something.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Ducks just played like crap in the ’09 game and the Boise defense didn’t really slow them much in ’08. I think you beat the Ducks with your offense first, and defense second.

  • slamadam says:
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    i was excited to see harrington last saturday, but he kept fumbling on the center exchange and it kind of ruined his chance to do much. the two other names from saturday i wanted to bring up though were brandon bennet-jackson and lavonte barnett. bennet-jackson could be part of the answer at DT. barnett’s game looked similar to rusty fernando’s to me, but a little heavier and maybe more useful against the run.

  • Jack says:
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    I thought this was interesting:
    http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/lamichael-james-spends-draft-with-willie-lyles/132247

    Add to that James arguing in public in favor of open practices at Nikegon and openly saying he always wanted to play for a coach like Harbaugh (one with fire and a passion for the game), and I’m wondering if he’s burning bridges on the way out.

  • BeavMonkey says:
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    Richie Harrington?

    Seriously?

    Not sure you saw him at the spring game, but he is nearly as athletic as future top five draft pick Matt Barkley and almost throws as well as Nick Montana, the son of an NFL Hall of Famer.

    Also, doubt ducks are getting any serious sanctions. And Storm Woods looked good in case Chris Brown doesn’t become freshman starter. Not sure how you feel about O-line though, I am not entirely sure what has improved other than the freshman recruits coming in.

  • bone says:
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    Richie Harrington? that may be a stretch.

    The spring was uninspiring due to the fact that there wasn’t a spring game and that hurts the fan’s interest. But being the optimistic Beaver fan that I liked what I saw from some of the practices that I went to, and am looking forward to the summer/fall.

    THINGS I LIKED
    1. The defensive backs are making plays, it seems like in the past they have been in position to make plays and haven’t. They are showing they can now.
    2. Obum Gwatchum- the guy is a freak, he is starting to look like a receiver and knows what to do. Could be a serious red zone threat and provide the finisher that we haven’t had since Quizz left.
    3.Depth at the receiver position
    4. Depth on the O-Line…? Yes. A ton of reps were given to players that may not have gotten them in other years, this should help in the fall once we 15+.
    5. Running Back competition. There are a couple backs that really want to be the guy, sets up for a competitive fall.
    6. Riley calling plays and putting the offense in difficult positions.

    Question Marks
    1. defensive tackle. Lot of unproven players, this defense could be quite good if they can hold their own in the middle.
    2 Depth, especially at the corner and DT positions. Need our guys especially at corner healthy.
    3. Hamstring injuries? Seems to be the injury of choice for OSU.

    Can it be September 1st already? GO BEAVS

    • helmsley says:
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      Re: Obum Gwatchum. I look forward to watching him make some great plays. IMHO, Riley (and staff – especially with some of the new coaches) is capable is good at taking raw talent and bringing it along. Is it fair to include Steven Paea in that category? The difficulty is, again IMHO, it’s been a spotty process. In the conveyor belt of year-to-year players, there should be one or two or more raw talent types in the mix at all times. Again, it comes down to recruiting, and spotting raw talent can’t be an easy thing. BTW – was Obum Gwatchum a scholarship player his first year out? I know I can find it somewhere, but it’s too easy to ask on AB because you guys have all the answers.

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    Go Beavs!

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      I’d accept a 2-0 start to the season.

      • Jack says:
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        I refer you to Aerosmith’s first single.

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          Maybe, maybe not dreaming. Pessimistic Beav fans play up the level of competition greater than they actually are. Too many people in here also have a chub for the Chipster. Wait until they lose 4 games, then it’ll be “everyone’s figured out Kelly’s offense”. Wisconsin is being viewed as down when compared to last year. Beavs have a good shot a beating them.

          • Jack says:
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            Not exactly what I was saying. You should counter with, “It was just my dream.” It’s just my dream as well. But the history is against both of us there.

            I almost worry that we would turn into Cal if we suddenly went 3-0 OOC or in September. The only thing worse than a 3-0 start is a 7-5 (or worse) finish.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      I made a bad bet last year thinking Russell Wilson would not be able to come in and rally the existing O behind himself so quickly. Being a glutton for punishment, I am now thinking Danny O’Brien may actually have that problem. Wow, showing up in June!

      The Badgers lost several good players in addition to Wilson from last year. Two DB’s who started 14 games apiece last season are gone along with some very good linemen. Additionally, the coaching staff has 5 new faces.

      I respect Montee Ball and realize that this team is ready to “re-load” on the lines. Still, this is not nearly the team of last year and the Beavs have them at Reser. Way too soon to predict a final outcome but the Beavs have a significantly better chance this time, IMHO.

      A couple other things in the linked article of interest (to me): 1) no depth charts released…this is a good way to at least give the appearance of open competition, and 2) some practices were not open to the media……I think this is a good way to show seriousness about the job even if the practice is no different. Sends a message to the players.

      • angry angry says:
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        The thing is, if the Beavers win that game it’ll buy Riley another 3 years.
        “But, but, but he beat Wisconsin!!” –Pollyannas

        • Jack says:
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          Who are we kidding? Those three years are already bought. I thought that’s why the tireless seeking success altered course and went after Banker and Langsdorf instead.

          • angry angry says:
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            I mean 3 more years after those 3 years. So..6. Ugh.

          • Jack says:
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            Those years are bought as well. But at least we enter the time frame acceptable for buyout talks.

            Thing is… the law of averages and the influx in good or great players will give Riley two to four good to great years in the next six. Those are the years I think you’re talking about. They will extend his contract beyond reasonable (as if it isn’t now).

            But I honestly thik Riley isn’t long for this position. I’m willing to bet he retires on the downside of the next surge for OSU football… say the 2009 of the 2014-16 seasons. He’s smart enough to see the writing on the wall. And he’s smart enough to realize that he’s on his third life now.

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          So Angry, you’ll only be happy with 2 wins or 9 wins on the season?

          • Jack says:
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            I’m not going to answer for angry, but I want to see consistent effort.

            The UCLA game two years ago was just pathetic. I want to see our boys fight for every inch of the field on every play. It’s fine with me if they lose that inch. I’ts not fine if we lose it because the personnel on the field knew before the play that they couldn’t handle what was coming.

            The Wazzu game from that year was just as egregious. That was us coming to a knife fight with pokey fingers.

          • angry angry says:
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            Effort would be nice.

            I’d add ‘well-oiled execution’ to a list like that, too.

          • angry angry says:
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            I’ll only be happy with a Rose Bowl appearance.
            I’d accept 9 wins.

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