23.Jun.2017 College World Series: LSU (Game 2)

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  • wrigg3 says:
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    GO BEAVS!!

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    I hope “Wong” gets some key hits today. And I will be interested to see who the “Cajun” pitcher is who throws 97mph and will come into the game to hit Madrigal in the wrist. I truly hope the Beavs put LSU away today, so their ass clown fan base strokes out going into the weekend.

  • Bill says:
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    If I’m lsu, I take a page out of the beavers playbook. Attack early and put the pressure on them. In the beavs losses, they’ve trailed the whole way.

    • angry angry says:
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      They have to be able to hit in order to do that, and they went down on 11 pitches.

      Ump looks to have a good healthy strike zone and didn’t miss any pitches. Good signs early.

      • Bill says:
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        Jake had a great sequence to the second batter. 3 straight curve balls. Guy was sitting dead red the whole at bat.

        If Jake can get his curve over consistently, he’s going deep today.

  • angry angry says:
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    Thompson’s working fast with good body language. Good signs.
    Easy first inning.

  • Bill says:
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    Good first for Jake. First batter did what I thought. Swing early but hit it right at Jack.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    GoBeavs!

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Wow, that lady just got nailed but didnt drop her beer!

  • angry angry says:
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    After a great first, Thompson gets ahead 0-2, serves up a double, then two singles. Down 2-0 and looks like typical Jake meltdown.

    • Bill says:
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      Got to remember the pitches are called from the dugout. Jake doesn’t shake anything off.

      The double was just good hitting. Went down and got it and hustled to get two. Then a seeing eye single. Third single was a good at bat by the lsu guy. Then a safety squeeze.

      Jake was all around the plate so no issues for me. LSU just executed that inning.

  • angry angry says:
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    Crowd has been all LSU from the start. Where are the Beav fans?

    • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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      Versus Fullerton, Beaver fans were mostly quiet until the team made some spectacular defensive plays and began scoring runs.

    • davemandeluxe davemandeluxe says:
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      The sound engineers at these games have a lot of control over what you hear. It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re turning up the mikes pointed toward LSU sections.

      • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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        I was at the game. Can confirm that Beaver fans were flat until the action started moving our way.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    I hope the players cleat any rally beach balls that hit the field today.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    At least Thompson is throwing strikes, sometimes aluminium bat ground balls screw you over in college baseball. Those announcers are “jizzing” all over the stadium with LSU’s two run lead!

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Somebody hit a ball please.

  • angry angry says:
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    Thompson with a good comeback inning. Offense needs to wake up starting now.

    • Bill says:
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      Lange is dealing. Got to work some counts. Wind is blowing hard out to right center. Lift one out there and it might go.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      You mean Adley time?

    • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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      At least start stretching Lange’s pitch count..

  • JockItch JockItch says:
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    Beavs need to go back to basics and find a way to get on base and extend pitch count….seems like they be rushing the at-bats.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Adley — don’t swing at the low curveballs! You are not going to hit them, and this umpire is not giving the low strikes.

    Gretler — nice job!!

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Lange isn’t looking great from the stretch

  • angry angry says:
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    Kept saying Gretler should be batting higher. Don’t understand it…

    No warts, tho, so it’s gotta be some genius move lowly me just can’t understand.

    • JockItch JockItch says:
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      Table setting for the top of the order, but fasting for the middle of the order. Yes, Gretler and Grenier should be 6 & 7.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Man on base. Lange now throwing more fastballs, fewer vicious curves.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Beavs robbed of a tie game on that

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Fair!!!!

  • angry angry says:
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    Why didn’t they review that?!?!

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      Unbelievably not reviewable. I hope that 3rd base ump is suspended. The announcers were saying the way it’s set up out there if it hits pad, it’s a fair ball. What a fuck up!

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        It was reviewable, they just didnt review it. Saw we had sent am assistant to plead for review, but they had already allowed next pitch to be thrown.

        • angry angry says:
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          The ESPN guys said it’s not reviewable because it didn’t hit the ground or something like that.

        • mckalk mckalk says:
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          The ESPN guys showed a graphic and said not reviewable. I stepped away for a minute, did that change? Is so, that makes it even worse.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Luckily our guys don’t feel themselves victims. They always believe they can work harder and do better. Mighty Kwan will be back!

  • Bill says:
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    Takes some big balls to throw a 3-2 breaker there. Nice by Trevor not chasing.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Great at-bat by Larnach!!

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Wow, that harrison strike 1 looked way outside

  • JockItch JockItch says:
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    This is exactly the type of inning the batters needed to get back into this thing, and put pressure on Lange.

  • angry angry says:
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    Umps total meltdown that inning, all in SEC’s favor.
    They had been doing a very good job up until now.

    • JockItch JockItch says:
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      ….you could see the ump saying to himself “Well there’s been a whole lotta balls called and this game is getting longer by the minute, and I’ve got places to go tonight, so maybe I aught to give the guy some help….”

  • JockItch JockItch says:
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    Lange pitch count up to 56 already!

  • angry angry says:
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    Silver lining: their pitcher is nearing 60 pitches already.

    But man, the umps the lack of review for that type of play could cost the Beavs a trip to the finals. That play needs to be reviewable.

    Nice to hear geriatric Beav fans come to life.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Wow, what a bizarre fuck up. Now it is reviewable and the umps are blaming the Beavers?

    • angry angry says:
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      Jenkins told Casey it was foul. What an idiot. And Casey just takes his word on a major scoring play?

  • angry angry says:
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    They now say OSU didn’t ask for a review so it wasn’t reviewed. Why didn’t they ask? What idiots. No warts, tho.

  • angry angry says:
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    Now Thompson comes out and starts the inning melting down again.

    Exactly what I knew would happen with this headcase.

    At least the Beavs are smart enough to have the pen going.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    We look hyper-vigilant in the field with Thompson on the hill. Not relaxed at all.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Should not have needed a review, easy call. Whole crew should be suspended and sent packing out of Omaha. Announcers made a good point about LF/RF line umps also.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    I have a feeling our 4th inning will go pretty quickly. 5th should be a good oppotunity to put some runs on

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Key time for Thompson to man up or be pressure choker. Needs this out big time.

    Edit- He came up strong!

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    That was the first real K from Thompson that fooled the hitter.

  • GoBeavs27 says:
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    Man say what you want about Thompson but that was a huge strikeout.

    • Bill says:
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      Reached back for a little extra there. 95 at the letters. Near impossible to hit.

  • angry angry says:
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    Thompson wiggles out of it with a 95mph heater. Great pitch.

    He is shaky as fuck this game despite just two runs thus far. I guess throw him out each inning from here on out, and if a guy or two gets on go to the pen?

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    OK, hat tip to Jake Thompson for getting out of that jam, and keeping this a one-run game. Surprised OSU didn’t bring in Max E. to pitch to the lefty and get that third out. But Jake got the job done….

  • JockItch JockItch says:
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    Both pitchers on track to be pulled in the 7th. It’ll be the bullpens to decide the game. Who does LSU’s bullpen have that can go?

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Let’s get to this bullpen!

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Malone’s hit looked foul to me!

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Adley — lay off the low curveball, please……

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    And there it is….no chance for Adley to hit that.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Adley might as well just take pitches. Better chance to increase pitch count

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      Adley should only swing at fastballs. If it’s a curve, take it.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        It might redeem himself again, but he’s the one hitter who looks completely overwhelmed.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    A couple of poor at bats that inning and one really good one.

  • PDX Beav says:
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    Don’t get how a reviewable play that all indications show hit the yellow om TV replay is not automatically reviewed. OSU shouldn’t have to ask but obviously you just request the review if needed 100 times out of 100. The booth knee it was fair from all the TV replays and likely did look at it again themselves but chose to not stop the game and say they were looking at it since it helped the SEC. Line judge should not have missed it but Casey came out and to not just say review it is very dumb. The booth guys should be ashamed and fired though cause they have complete ability to review anything close, let alone a fair ball that would have likely scored 2 runs.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Grenier/Kwan/Madrigal up next inning. Best opportunity they’ll have to take the lead. Thompson needs to get through this inning with limited damage

  • angry angry says:
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    Casey commented on it. Missed the first part and only caught that he said he didn’t ask. Did he say why he didn’t ask?

    • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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      Nope. Just took accountability and said that it was his fault for not asking. Like a man.

      • PDX Beav says:
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        Rather have had a child who could simply say “Review it” in that situation. Could very well end up keeping us out of the CWS Finals now.

        If Casey wants to be a man then he better do everything in his power to make sure his team wins the next game if we end up taking the L in this one.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      No, he just said he should have. But it’s messed up anyway, right? The runners stopped running once the ump called foul? How do you decide runner placement?

      • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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        It is the umpires discretion to place the runners.

      • youngorst says:
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        2nd, 3rd, and 1 run.

        Pretty simple

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      Casey said he asked his 3d base coach, and his coach said the ball was foul. Casey, in his interview, admitted it was a mistake not to ask anyway. Yup. Big mistake.

    • angry angry says:
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      On twitter someone says they asked and were denied. Casey didn’t say that?
      https://twitter.com/aaronfitt/status/878350898694676481

      It is going to be the worst feeling ever as a Beav if we miss the finals because of that call (and our coaches not asking for review).

    • PDX Beav says:
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      Cause Jenkins thought it was probably foul and Casey had a brain freeze and got too lazy to just have it reviewed. His mind must have thought “Oh 80 pervent chance foul?…Keep tge game rolling I guess, we don’t need to take 30 sevounds for just a 20% chance at 2 runs here.” Ugh.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Maybe Thompson has finally found his mid season stride?

  • angry angry says:
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    Great comeback inning by Thompson.

    • Bill says:
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      Vs the top of the order, he’s given up no hits. It’s the middle and bottom where he’s had his issues.

  • angry angry says:
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    https://twitter.com/DannyJMoran/status/878354008632688644

    Casey with his biggest wart yet. Might have to see a dermatologist after this game.

    • PDX Beav says:
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      Review crew is supossed to review anything reviewable if not 100% sure. They did not do their job. They thought “Hey LSU amd SEC are ahead right now and they called it foul. We took a peek and looked prettyngood but aren’t going to stop this game if no one is complaining.”

      I was sure Casey was coming out to talk to ref and why he egen bothered asking the 3rd base coach is beyond me. Should jave been a quick “Take a look” statement and standing there until told review results and earning up to 2 runs.

      • angry angry says:
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        Yep.

        And now we might miss the finals because of it. No warts, tho.

  • Bill says:
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    I think the beavs have stolen lsus signs. Pitch out caught stealing now in both games.

  • angry angry says:
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    Adley is a great thrower…great catcher all around. Really impressive to watch back there.

  • Mammothboner6969 says:
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    Anyone see they put the Oklahoma state logo under Harrison… nice fuck up ESPN

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Lange pitch count is getting up there. Anybody know what he typically goes for?

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Ugh…why swing away on pitch 1 there?

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Too late Nate.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    We need to get into the LSU bullpen in the 7th if we plan to win this game.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Why is Jake Thompson still out there? Anybody?

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Finally….

  • Bill says:
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    Jake done. A little over reaction from the board for a guy who went 6 2/3 giving up three. The offense is the issue, not Jake.

    Lsu looks like they are going to gamble and keep Lange in. Save the bullpen for tomorrow.

    • Doozeldorf says:
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      Doesn’t seem like much of a gamble yet, he’s doing fine. It’s on our offense to make him a liability.

    • angry angry says:
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      Pitcher sets the tone, and he was shaky. LSU guy is rock solid and they’re following his lead.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Thompson was serviceable. Clearly a quality start. Hitting needs to do its Beaver thing. Time to come from behind and win this game!

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Hitters have lost their patience.

    • angry angry says:
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      Yep, this guy should be out of the game by now.

  • youngorst says:
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    Can’t win them all, better win tomorrow. If they don’t its on the umps and Casey for not getting a review on that double.

    Game changing call and inexcusable by both the umps and Pat.

  • Doozeldorf says:
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    “What does three up and three down mean to you, airman?”

  • angry angry says:
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    Do you pitch Drew tomorrow with Fehmel in relief?

    • Doozeldorf says:
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      No, you win this fucking thing today.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        And if you don’t, you throw Heimlich out there with both middle fingers extended

        • angry angry says:
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          I wish. He’s in Corvallis, though, yeah? So no chance of that.

      • tim318 says:
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        Obviously. But it’s a fair question. Bryce has pitched well past two weeks. Drew is the better pitcher, but we’ve seen so little of him recently. But LSU has seen Bryce before – for better or worse. I like either pitcher.

        And LSU can’t pitch Lange a second day.

  • angry angry says:
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    I think LSU is making an error bringing the starter back out.

  • angry angry says:
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    Oh…yeah, they’re taking him out.

  • youngorst says:
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    Entire offense looks lost today. Worst they’ve looked since the civil war series vs. the Ducks ace.

  • angry angry says:
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    Beavs were completely overmatched today by both these pitchers. One chance we had the coach blew (possibly cost us a National Title).

    So what is the deal tomorrow. Pitch Drew?
    What time is the game?

    LSU with all momentum and Beav players will be left wondering “what if” once they see that foul ball replay tonight. Going to be hard to come back from that and win tomorrow. They pretty much shut it down after that play today.

    • youngorst says:
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      Time unknown till after tonights game. If TCU wins Beavs will be day game, if Florida wins its a night game.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Andy Jenkins owns some of this, too. He gave Pat Casey the wrong information, and did so quickly — making it seem like a no-doubter. All Jenkins needed to tell Casey is that the ball was close, and could have been fair or foul. If Jenkins had said that, Casey almost certainly would have asked for a review.

  • ean says:
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    Got to pitch Drew. He should have been pitched today so he would be ready for a potential game 3 in the finals.

  • PDX Beav says:
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    Hate to say it but if I was in Vegas right now I would lay money on LSU winning it all. Refs have given them more calls then anyone in the tourney so far. Fix appears to be in by ESPN to collect more money via SEC Network to make up for the cord cutters.

    Beavs best chance tomorrow is by taking the early lead.

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      Yeah, I have no confidence in us winning tomorrow after this fiasco. Not just an average loss but a demoralizing loss because of the “what if” factor. Umps were pretty good in Beav games until today. People make errors. It’s why coaches have review.

      It’s like the ’86 Mets. No way they were losing game 7 after the Buckner fiasco. Boston was mentally done.

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        I think the score would be 3-2 if that had been a double.

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          You have no clue what the score would be…Kwan followed up the double with a pop out. So we’d have an extra out to play with in addition to an extra run. Pitcher might have melted down after that, etc. No clue how many runs were missed.

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            Hence the “I think” jackass

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            I mean if they had called the play on the field right it would have scored 2 runs. If Pat challenged it it would have scored just 1 run with runners on 2nd and 3rd, right? You’re right it is impossible to know though.

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            Well you are simply trying to justify a game we likely would have won, jackass.

          • Beavlover69 says:
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            Jackasses

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      LSU or Florida. Either fills ESPN coffers to help save others jobs so they don’t go the way of Schnell. I place some blame on Larry Scott for this as well. If they sold a portion of PAC Network to ESPN they would be OK with Oregon State making the finals and maybe actually let the best team win.

      Instead they would love an all SEC Final and don’t mind a few shenanigans to get it.

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    WTF is going on in this comment section? Y’all act as if any team has beaten us twice all season. And this game isn’t over yet. Oregon State IS the best team in the country. We’ve come from behind on numerous occasions, and yeah, we haven’t lost two games to the same team all season. They aren’t spankin’ us today. We still got this tomorrow.

    • Thomastine says:
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      Like, I woulda thought I would see some level-headedness when I came to this thread. It’s one game, and baseball is like that sometimes. It’s a down game (if it continues as it has); so what? It’s on them to beat us TWICE.

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      I agree. In fact, I think we win big tomorrow, in spite of the SECSPN bias. This team always seems to bounce back tougher than before.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Though largely untested, I love the toughness of our bullpen.

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    It would be great to win this in the ninth and shut lsu and the announcers up.

  • angry angry says:
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    This Hess dude looks like he has roid rage.

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    Ball 4 called strike 3. A very fitting ending to ESPN’s day.

  • PDX Beav says:
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    If Casey believed his son would be tossed into a volcano tomorrow if we lost I am 99% sure OSU would win. He needs to have that mentality tomorrow and be relentless in winning a meaningful one for his son. Refuse to lose like his life depended on it.

  • Doozeldorf says:
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    2 hits and 12 strikeouts. Not a typical Beaver offense today. Tomorrow will be much better.

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      Let’s hope so. They blew their chance early on.

  • Dansen Dansen says:
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    Was it just me, or was Hess getting outside and high pitches called for strikes that even Langes wasn’t getting?

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      Outside corner definitely expanded about an inch or two.

    • angry angry says:
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      Hess also looked like he was on either coke or roids. Maybe the ump was afraid for his life?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    How about that “Death Star” analogy….

    LSU likely to have mental edge tomorrow.

  • Bill says:
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    Beavs still have the advantage tomorrow. LSU will be down to their #3 or #4 guy or a bullpen game. Their fans act like they won the whole thing just now.

    2 hits won’t get it done in any game. Jake did fine, the offense couldn’t get anything going. Credit to Lange too. Can see why he was a first round pick. I’d go with the same lineup tomorrow.

    In the end, the no call on kwan was devasting. I was hoping it wouldn’t matter but it did.

    Top of the lineup needs to produce tomorrow. Offense will carry them to the title series.

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      You’d go with Malone tomorrow and Adley hitting ahead of Gretzler?

      Casey needs to put together the proper lineup. Best hitters, in order. He also needs to review CWS/National Title changing plays.

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        Yes, Malone has shown he can consistently get on base. Doubled today. Cary is the only other option right now and he hasn’t done much at the plate.

        Adleys been a black hole but I like the Gretler and Grenier turn the lineup over setting up kwan and madrigal.

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    Strike zone was consistent all game. Ump was giving at least a ball off the plate on both sides. Beavs pitchers didn’t take advantage as much as the lsu pitchers.

  • angry angry says:
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    Totally disagree we’re going to win tomorrow. Maybe it’s my ’86 Mets bias (Boston players admitted game 7 was a lock for the Mets b/c of psyche after Buckner), but I saw what a crushing loss and “what if” scenario does to a team’s psyche. Expect us to lose tomorrow for sure and maybe even get blown out, even if we have a pitching advantage on paper. LSU is jacked up and smells blood. Umps are going to favor them. ESPN is going to favor them. We’re toast. If I’m wrong, I’d be thrilled, but that’s what 30+ years of watching and playing baseball tell me.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    OSU only had 3 hits all day (counting Kwan’s double to left — which should have counted but didn’t). Beavers battled for the most part, but looked a bit overmatched today against Lange and Hess.

    Tomorrow should be better. LSU goes into tomorrow’s game short on quality pitching. Their starter tomorrow, Caleb Gilbert, was a spot starter and reliever this year OSU needs to get to Gilbert early, and then dig into the LSU middle relievers (who are also nothing special). If OSU can do that, the Beavers should win tomorrow — and perhaps win comfortably.

    Unfortunately, the Beavers will probably have to burn Drew Rasmussen tomorrow, which may cost the Beavers dearly in the finals (assuming they make it that far). But can’t worry about that at the moment. That’s simply the price of losing today…..

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    I thought it was interesting how the announcers moved on from the colossal error by the umpires pretty quickly and began the LSU fawning.. You can jizz all over LSU’s pitching, but if the umpires had done their job and called the play correctly as it was happening, we are looking at a 3-3 tie and who knows what happens after that. The Beavs need to dominate tomorrow and move on from this, but still unbelievable on so many counts.

  • angry angry says:
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    If Casey had challenged that play and the umps upheld it, I think the call and loss would both be a tough still, but ones that could be digested. As is, demoralizing and likely hangs into tomorrow. Casey went all Riley on that play. Totally something Riley would do — not challenging a bad call or trusting one of his coaches’ opinion….

    If I’m a player, I am irked with Casey for not getting my back and asking for review.

    A larger question: what do fans of the non ESPN schools do about ESPN? This is so out of control it’s become a slap in hundreds of fanbases faces.

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      It borders on a conflict of interest to have ESPN cover events like the CWS this day and age, but what do you do? I had to laugh when one of the announcers was giving OSU a sort of compliment, but then said something about how they see the SEC teams all the time.

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      I was thinking of the same question, needs to be addressed.

      AND those announcers were so terrible, talking about hair color in a close game?!?

    • PDX Beav says:
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      I’ll admit I feel currently much more like I did about Riley’s handling of the end of the 1st half of the Alano Bowl right now then I do the joyful optimism of our 2006 team coming out of the loser’s bracket. Not taking a no downside option that has high upside based off incomplete knowledge of what occurred is just not doing your job when the team has come this far.

      Part of me thinks it is best to play loose tomorrow. Swing like you assume you ate going to find the holes and the gaps are too big for LSU to stop repeated solid contact. Tendancy is usually for a tighter game in these situations. Beavs get out to a 2-0 start then I like our chances.

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      It’s fair to say that Pat Casey made the key error of today’s game. Casey preaches the importance of everyone doing their job, and the importance of getting the details right. Today, the key error was Casey’s. But, okay, everyone makes mistakes — even Casey himself — and it’s time to move on.

      LSU is undoubtedly pumped after today’s win — staving off elimination. But the Beavers really do have the advantage going into tomorrow’s winner-take-all game.

      LSU came into the CWS with two excellent, proven starting pitchers (Lange and Poche) and a promising young starting pitcher (Eric Walker). Lange and Walker are completely unavailable tomorrow. Poche is very likely unvailable, too (at most, Poche might available for an inning or two).

      So now, for LSU, it’s all on Caleb Gilbert, whom the Beavers saw on Monday, and chased after 2.2 innings. Gilbert did a decent job on Monday (it was an error that opened the floodgates). He’s had a strong post-season overall, so far. But he’s no Alex Lange. And if the Beavers can get to Gilbert tomorrow early in the game, looks like LSU may not have much left in the bullpen to throw at OSU (other than their closer, Hess, whom LSU will try to save until the last couple of innings, if at all possible).

      If OSU plays well tomorrow, OSU will win. If OSU doesn’t play well tomorrow, OSU probably wasn’t going to win the championship this year anyway.

      Go Beavs.

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    Baseball like life isn’t always fair. At least we have a chance tomorrow to make this right. I’m hoping for a tcu win tonight so whoever we play in the final series will be in the same boat as us.

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    I didn’t think the announcers were that all bad – not as awful as in the first lsu game when they kept willing lsu to win. Lang was good and beaver hitting wasn’t, so they could hardly go on praising the Beavs after when there was really nothing to talk about. I wonder how the team will get their heads together when it was the coach who blundered.

  • Bill says:
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    Complaining about the announcers is dumb. They don’t affect the outcome of the game. Period.

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    Listened on the radio for the first five inning. Did Casey really fuck up like it sounds. Was it fair?

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      Casey went out and asked Jenkins if was fair or foul. Jenkins apparently thought it was the right call so Casey let it go. My initial reaction on tv was that was fair and may have hit the foul pole, which it didn’t. Fans down the left field line were all pointing fair ball. Someone should have caught the mistake and had it reviewed.

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        It hit the fair left yellow line of the wall just below the home run line by about 3.5 inches. If ESPN had showed their better replay earlier then good chance booth would have reviewed it on their own. That said I don’t think these booths have great procedures they follow to the T as they should.

        Too often they end up handled in a multitude of fashions when time is of the essence and with any doubt the first concern should be to briefly pause the game for a quick look. Instead, even though they are enpowered, they too often wait for a ref to indicate to them. NCAA said they broke protocol in official tweet, yet the booth doesn’t even know how to protect their ability to follow that protocol in real time.

        • PDX Beav says:
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          Just reviewed it and the ESPN replay 15 seconds after the play was very easy to see it hit a large swath of the yellow fair line which touching even the tiniest sliver of is all inbounds. The booth saw the same thing and chose to ignore it. They knew in under 15 seconds from when the ball hit fair that it was indeed a fair ball. These guys should be reprimanded and not allowed in the booth again this year.

          By the way, believe they said for the Finals they do have two more sideline refs supposedly. Watch for that and hopefully with us in the Finals.

        • mckalk mckalk says:
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          It was not that difficult of a call if the ump had got his ass down the line. Also, he should have know that if it hit that pad area it had to be fair. Understanding the ground rules of the stadium is a basic expectation of a crew.

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      It looked fair in real time, and it was very obviously fair in slow time.

      I want to know what Jenkins said to Casey. It’s on them both. Buck stops with Casey, but WTF is Jenkins doing? If it’s at all close tell Casey to challenge it.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      who really f’d up was the Umps they didn’t have a thrid and fourth ump down the outfield line during an elimination game, they missed the original call, by calling a fair ball foul. Then the crew chief missed the opportunity to review the call on a close play like that. Casey screwed up by not asking the crew chief for a review. So did Casey screw up? Yes, and he admitted as much,but don’t let the umps off the hook here they are the ones that missed the call, and missed the opportunity to review it. That should be something that Manager doesn’t have to ask for, it should be automatic. I have a feeling if it was an SEC team the booth would have called down for a review.

      • PDX Beav says:
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        Yep, Booth would have 100% made sure there was a review if it was LSU’s hit in question. Not any doubt about it.

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          That is so fucked up. To just say “yep” to such an injustice. People need to do more than just accept this as the norm.

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    I was listening to the game on Serius Radio and they had westwood one “neutral” announcers calling the game. They got a statement from the NCAA regarding the Kwan foul ball. The crew chief should have stopped the game and gone to replay. The manager can not “challenge” a call on the field it has to be initiated by the crew chief. They admitted the umps screwed up.

    • angry angry says:
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      Everyone has conflicting info on this. ESPN said it was non-reviewable, then they said it was reviewable but Casey had to ask, now you’re saying the umps had to do it. Is there a rule book?

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        Can you ask Canzano on Twitter since he seems to be the authority on everything else?

      • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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        Coaches may not challenge the call of an umpire, as in Major League Baseball, but they can ask for the crew chief to start the review process.

        “In either situation, it is the sole authority of the crew chief to decide if any play is to get a review,” Randy Burns, NCAA secretary-rules editor, said in a statement.

        “Nothing happened on this play that triggered a review.”

        http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/19720649/2017-college-world-series-umpires-missed-chance-video-reversal-foul-ball-ncaa-says

        • Jack Jack says:
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          It was obviously fair in real time. So there’s that. How could anyone on the field miss it?

          After that play, I just fast-forwarded through the game waiting for our score to change. It didn’t. I figured I had already seen the game end.

      • PDX Beav says:
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        Casey doesn’t have to ask for a review but it helps ensure one bwcausw you can ask for review to be initiated to help your cause if you don’t trust them to do their job on their own. Both these opportunities (Booth and coach) as well as ump initiated were all missed. Even .001 doubt and manager needs to show he cares though or they can certainly screw you over as we saw today. They just get lazy and figure if the team does not object then they may not move their finger to pause the game. They are supposed to amd should be doing it for any close reviewable call but they are too lazy to even put procedures in to be sure they have the time for their look before play continues. In this case the booth knew it was fair within 15 seconds of the ball hitting the wall and chose to ignore it as they don’t even know how to properly implement their protocol in real time and before further play per NCAA.

        Casey admitted he had intention of asking for review when he left the dugout and I swore he was going to speak with an ump but after 2 steps out he just looked toward Jenkins who probably was twlling him it was called Foul. He then had a brain freeze and allowed himself to walk back to dugout without speaking to an ump which would have almost surely got a review started for 1-2 instant runs.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Here’s the thing..

    Records and win streaks don’t matter anymore. They’re great talking points for those who haven’t followed us all season, but mean little when it comes to our capabilities.

    Overall we’ve proven resilient. Sure we’ve lost, but never twice in a row. Yes we’ve been down, but always found our stride when pressed

    Today was a loss to a great team (#4 national) that wanted redemption for a beat down. So bad calls went against us. Tomorrow is a new day. I’m now sure how we’ll line up after all is said and done, but our toughness and fortitude that we’ve seen all season will surely be on display.

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      Agreed.

      1. Beavers have already battled through some major adversity this season (losing LH on the eve of the Super Regional), kept their focus, and prevailed. OSU’s mental toughness will be tested again tomorrow, but I think they will rise to the challenge (as they have done all season).

      2. Momentum is important in baseball. But pitching is more important. OSU should enjoy a significant pitching advantage tomorrow. And that is likely to be the difference.

      Go Beavs.

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        I just went to a Dodger game where Kershaw gave up 6 runs to an awful Mets team, so I don’t want to hear about pitching advantages…lol. Yeah, on paper Drew is better, but this situation is almost all mental at this point. Beavs will be fighting the umps and crowd as well.

        • Sparkd73 says:
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          I agree on the crowd, I even agree on ESPN announcers, but I think saying the umps have it in for the Beavs is just silly. Bad call on the fair ball – yes, wide strike zone was going both ways which helped LSU more because Lange had poorer control, but it wasn’t a conspiracy.

  • beav4ever says:
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    Hello from Omaha
    1-Umpires screwed up on Kwans hit (3rd base ump should be held accountable because he did not hustle down the line, he jogged only a few steps. I know because he was right in front of me.
    2- Casey should have asked for a challenge but if Jenkins told him it was foul its on Jenkins.
    3- Kwan was in never never land all game. Coaches talked to him on 3 different occasions when he came off field.
    4-Jake was shaky but kept us in the game.
    5- We really did not have many good at bats.
    6-This game is so mental, it will be very interesting how we respond.
    7- Anyone who is not here does not realize how biased this whole tourney is to LSU, even the people running the video board are all about LSU. Umpires, NCAA and tourney organizers are all LSU supporters.
    8- If OSU really is #1 they will bounce back tomorrow.

    • angry angry says:
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      #7 is so obvious yet still highly disturbing to read.

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        #9: The grand slam was awesome, but KJ hasn’t hit anything hard since then. OSU needs more from KJ Harrison if OSU is going to win a championship in Omaha this year (or even get to the Finals).

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          What are KJ and Adley now? 2 for 26 combined? It is overlooked because each had one key hit so far.

      • PDX Beav says:
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        I pointed out I believed strongly in #7 occurring and the real pressure by organizers (NCAA, ESPN and SEC) for it to continue until a champion is crowned. Beavs have to be the spoilers here and fight the good fight against the evil Disney/SEC marriage.

        Get enough hits and score runs for every couple hits and Oregon State can win this on their own. All the umps and organizers can do is fudge the small stuff. Take control with hitting and pitching and do what is needed to score runs and maintain a lead until we advance.

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          Evil?

          Disney/SEC marriage?

          Guffaw?

          Disney is about money. There is no evil. They just make money. But if they were evil, morons who live in SEC country would most likely be the ones on the front lines against them… muttering some gibberish about them being evil or something.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      #3 Kwan made a couple of crazy throws, but they did not do any damage.

    • ReverendBeav says:
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      Was listening to a show on Sirius College Sports network yesterday. They had Eric Sorenson on from d1baseball.com. It was said that Oregon State is the least liked team in Omaha and it has nothing to do with being 56-4 and #1 in the country. Basically, alluding that OSU doesn’t deserve to be there or have the respect because of LH. I hope OSU can shove it up all their asses tomorrow.

      • cj cj says:
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        Beavs should fly Luke in tonight so he can pitch tomorrow!

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      It’s hard to argue total SEC homers, though, when Coastal Carolina and Virginia are the last two winners. I think there is truth to it, but really the umps are just bad. We need technology to replace umps. Pitch tracker for balls/strikes. Put a laser in the ball for fair/foul.

  • PDX Beav says:
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    Per the ESPN article Casey briefly talked with 3rd base ump Collins and not Jenkins. So if this article is right then when Casey steps out and from 15 yards away is told “Foul” it was ny Collins not Jenkins. The LSU Manager came out to dispute his player leaning into a pitch and not gettinf awarfed 1st base with a 3-1 lead but Casey with all intention of speaking with ump apparently got lazy because he calls out Foul from 15 yards away to see if Casey would quit walking out and he did. Regretful decision that can never be done when you have runs on the line and know how hard such hits can be to come by with Lange.

    • angry angry says:
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      It’s hard to know what happened. All I know is that watching it the ball looked fair in real time, and I kept sitting there waiting for the obvious (a challenge) that never happened. So, I have a hard time blaming anyone but the coaches because umpires will miss calls, and that call would have 100% been reversed with a challenge. I was absolutely shocked when the next pitched was thrown to Kwan without a challenge. More shocked than the missed call.

      • PDX Beav says:
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        This Assistant running to tell them to review it is ridiculous also. If Beavs have some assistant in a booth or wherever who saw a teplay and knew was fair and certainly something we would want reviewed then you would believe there would be some line of communication or red batphone. If not Casey needs to invest in a cell phone so the dugout can always be called.

        • Running Asst says:
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          I imagine an assistant in the booth next door to the replay booth who instead of knocking on their see through window and gesturing for review started heading down the stairs running for the dugout. Maybe he got as far as the main level and had to get down that final flight when the next pitch occurred. Pretty ridiculous. Beavs need a guy who watches a live feed and can instantly buzz the coaches.

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          Why are we 100 years behind the times? That is literally 1917 “technology”…having a guy run around….jeez.

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            Casey in post game presser video uses same terminology. Says the Beavs didn’t have the “technology” to let him know it was fair in time.

          • angry angry says:
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            That’s sad. They don’t have a tv monitor? We have those at home, yet the team playing for a National Title doesn’t? They have a dude running around hoping to get there in time like it’s 1917?? Maybe we’ll upgrade to the Pony Express next year.

          • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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            Carrier pigeon would have been faster.

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            They tried the pigeon, Rasmussen killed it in game 1.

  • PdX says:
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    Lets get over the call and the excuses about SEC bias. The Beavs have lost 5 games all season. FIVE. If they truly want to be the #1 team in the country, they will win tomorrow. This team has such a different mindset and feel. They will be locked and loaded after this.

    • angry angry says:
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      That sounds nice and all. Except there’s an opponent who also wants to be #1 and has the crowd and umps on their side.

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      Casey tells the team to the distractions, but how many distractions can there be before they do take a toll. I’m not convinced about a win tomorrow at all. Hitters have to hit.

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    In a military battle, “God favors the bigger battalions” (old saying often — perhaps wrongly — attributed to Napoleon).

    In an elimination baseball game, God favors the better pitchers. http://www.hardballtimes.com/pitching-almost-always-wins-championships/

    Tomorrow, we have the better pitchers.

    • ReverendBeav says:
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      So do you start Rassmussen and hope he can give you 5 innings and then let the bullpen take it from there or do you mix and match for 7 innings and then let Rassmussen finish it off for 6 or so outs?

      I think we’ll score some runs tomorrow so I’d almost rather save Rasmussen for the back end. It’s a gamble either way. It’d be a different story if Rasmussen could go 7 or 8 innings.

    • angry angry says:
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      Drew is a bit of a wild card. If we had LH tomorrow I’d agree. And the better pitcher on paper doesn’t always pan out. I believe in momentum/mindset more than the better guy on paper, and the Beavs are in the doldrums after this one. I/we also have no clue how good LSU’s pitcher is. Just because he is #4 doesn’t mean he stinks. Thompson was our #1, after all.

      All I know is mentally they should be completely shot after that loss today, so that’s what I expect. A lifeless team that folds. If I’m wrong, great. I hope so.

      • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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        “…we also have no clue how good LSU’s pitcher is.”

        Caleb Gilbert — LSU’s starting pitcher tomorrow — pitched against the Beavs four days ago, on Monday. He’s the guy who replaced LSU’s injured starter early in the game. Gilbert pitched decently, but only lasted for 2.2 innings against OSU. More important, OSU got a chance to hit against him, and see his stuff first hand. That’s pretty good preparation for tomorrow.

        LSU coaches and players (and fans) claim they have a lot of confidence in Caleb Gilbert. http://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2017-06-23/if-lsu-makes-it-saturday-omaha-tigers-can-put-college-world-series But even if Gilbert performs well, it seems unlikely that Gilbert will go deep into the game tomorrow, and looks like LSU’s middle relievers after Gilbert are unreliable.

        Of course, if you are right and OSU comes out lifeless tomorrow, then LSU will win. But I’ll be surprised if this OSU team gives up that easily, especially after all the adversity and challenges they have already battled through this season.

        Go Beavs!

    • Jack Jack says:
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      The quote was originally by Roger de Rabutin, the Count of Basie… or something. But he’s not the one who made it famous. It was a common dumb utterance by the Frenchies for years. But Voltaire turned it on its ear and said, “God is not on the side of the bigger battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best.”

      So I think this is where I come in.

      Fuck the world. They can go screw themselves and shrivel in the twilights of their hatred.

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    They’re done

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      Agreed.

      • ReverendBeav says:
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        They are from done. They got 4 hits in 2.2 innings off the guy LSU is starting tomorrow. They only struggled against him when the shadow was an issue.

        I’ll even bet you the Chevelle you won from that dude a couple weeks ago.

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          Haha. Deal.
          I’d gladly give up the “Chevelle” I don’t own, but you’re not touching my Chevette.

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      I’ll say first team to take a 2 run lead wins tomorrow. I say start Drew as we need a lead to change the psyche now. Best chance is scoring a couple in first few innings while shutting out LSU early. From there hang on, get outs and try to add runs at any opportunity.

  • angry angry says:
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    Jenkins should be fired for this.

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    Unreal. Anyone watching this? Same play as our game yet reviewed right away.

    • angry angry says:
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      Haven’t seen it. Let me guess, SEC team reviewed it?

      • PDX Beav says:
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        Angry, just as we thought. Florida hit the ball foul and it was called foul. The booth then stopped the game to make sure there was no chance that an SEC team didn’t just miss out on a chance for a 3 run homer. This ball hit about a foot left of where Kwan’s hit and they stopped the game to see if umps might in any way have missed something good for the SEC.

        Then for a non-SEC team on a fair ball on case of OSU they can’t get the umps or booth to get it right or have any concern to be sure it is right. Unbelievable.

    • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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      I mean I’m sure the umps heard all about it so they were quick to review it because they know what happened earlier.

    • PDX Beav says:
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      What happened? Where did ball hit, what was call on field, and which team hit it and did they review it for?

      • ReverendBeav says:
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        Ball hit about 2 inches higher than Kwon’s. Called fair on field but reviewed right after play to confirm. Coaches didn’t have to ask.

        Off topic, do you +1 all your posts? Someone really likes you here.

        • PDX Beav says:
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          Lol. I saw a tweet that showed a ball hit by Florida down the left field line, foul by a bit, amd assumed that was the play as score showed 2-1 at the time and I knew current score was 2-2 when I saw this and there were 2 runners so could not have been a home run.

          So this was a TCU homer that the SEC booth reviewed to see if there was any chance they could take it away?

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    Huh. One of the commentators of the TCU-Florida game says that the blown foul call on Kwan’s hit didn’t cost OSU the game, yet the ESPN commentator crew was adamant that walks and errors were the reason LSU lost the first go around.

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      Florida still getting hammered. ESPN bias, etc can’t make up for a poseur throwing meat down the middle and TCU hammering it.

      • Dansen Dansen says:
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        I’m pulling for TCU, if anything so if the Beavs win tomorrow the team they’ll face in the CWS finals won’t have more well-rested pitching.

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          I’m strongly pulling for TCU tonight for three reasons.

          1. If TCU wins tonight, Florida will probably need to use (and thereby burn up) one of their top starting pitchers tomorrow, making that pitcher unavailable to start game 1 or game 2 against OSU in the finals.

          2. Even better, TCU might beat Florida tomorrow in the elimination game (and TCU would have even less pitching available against OSU in the finals).

          3. TCU is playing an SEC team. So I’m pulling for TCU.

          In an ideal world, it will be OSU vs TCU in this year’s finals and ESPN will not have a team in the finals to favor.

  • PDX Beav says:
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    This tweet shows it was a Florida hit on RF wall called fair. So the SEC gets the right call but not OSU. TCU atleast got the review to be sure it was right.

    https://twitter.com/TreyMongrue/status/878419557731446784

  • PDX Beav says:
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    Turns out the 3rd base ump was the “Crew Chief” who should have initiated a review for any close call. Guy thinks he is right because he made the call and doesn’t care about the integrity of the game when knowing it was very close (but clearly fair). Casey comes out and he yells Foul from 15 yards away just to try to turn him around and keep his SEC favorite ahead.

    https://twitter.com/PDXjay/status/878433061704159232

    • Jack Jack says:
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      It wasn’t even close… relatively. It was close in the physical sense, but it was so obviously fair in real time.

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        The dent in the padding might have given that idiot a clue also.

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          I (and the TV audience) didn’t even need to see it. The sound it made when it bounced told me it hit something solid, not chain link. If I was on the base paths and heard that sound, I would not stop until I scored.

  • Once a beav... says:
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    If Casey loses to lsu, you’d have to believe it’s his last go. As we all know, the writing has been on the wall for awhile? now…

    Would like to see this team take it all the way one last time though, so don’t count us out just yet!

    • ReverendBeav says:
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      I hope that’s not the case but at least we’ve got a lot of talent coming back next year. Kendall Rogers tweeted the other day he thinks Casey has got a few years left in him but that the next Coach is on the current staff.

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        Oh no. Yeskie?

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          I don’t know. In that Eggers article recently both Jenkins and Bailey said they’d like to be a head guy.

        • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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          Kavin Keyes?

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      If TCU beats Florida tonight (and TCU is up by 3 runs in the top of the 6th), OSU is actually in a reasonably good position to win it all. Stay tuned…..

      • angry angry says:
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        If TCU wins tonight, FL gets another game, right? But if FL wins they’re in the finals? Haven’t followed that side closely.

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        Make that TCU now up SIX runs in the top of the 6th over Florida. Liking it….

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    I read the rules on this and Casey cannot request a review. He can request a council of the umpires which can lead to a review. But, the review decision has to come from the umpires. The Crew Chief has the responsibility to convene a council of the umpires, but the wording of the rules states that if the umpire is 100% certain of their call then that umpire can veto the council. This is obviously in my own words.

    So if the crew chief is the 3rd base umpire who made the call and he is emphatic, it leaves Casey with basically no options. Still think Casey wishes he asked for a council of the umpires, but doubt it would have changed the outcome.

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      The ESPN shot on Casey wasn’t great but reading lips it looked like he asked, “you got that one?”. If it was the 3rd base ump/crew chief he was asking, the answer probably was yes. If that was the case, you are probably right on with your comment.

    • PDX Beav says:
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      Agree with some of that. Casey should have come all the way out and asked for it. He could have been denied but I have seen plenty of these councils and then they usually do review it because they have more spotlight on them at that point and it is safer for them to check which should always be the case unless 100% which ump wasn’t since he was wrong.

      We need to verify if booth has a way to page umps to initiate a review and has done so before or if all reviews are ump initiated whether spurred by a manager or not. Starting to believe it all comes from the umps on the field then they bring out a monitor for ump (home or chief?) to review.

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    Actually this must be the Florida ball that hit just above Kwan’s. In this case it only scored 1 run to tie game 2-2 but unlike Kwan’s it bouced back towards outfielder. Kwan’s had very good chance to score 2.

    https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/878419838359752704

  • ReverendBeav says:
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    And another review now on a fair/foul ball down the left field line. This one about 20 rows up into the stands.

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      Call stands and TCU was probably robbed of a dinger

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    On the TCU game, they said Gilbert has good stuff and can get into the mid 90s.
    Don’t remember him too well from the other day.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Gilbert was decent for a few innings, but as soon as they pulled him, the wheels fell off.

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      Here’s the box score from Monday’s game, which includes the following numbers for Gilbert:

      2.2 innings pitched
      4 hits
      2 runs (none earned)
      2 walks
      4 Ks
      15 batters faced
      70 pitches (42 strikes)

      http://www.osubeavers.com/documents/2017/6/19//170619_OSU_13_LSU_1.pdf

      • ReverendBeav says:
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        I thought he was hittable cause we finally got to him, but my sample size for forming an opinion was maybe too small. He’s got pretty good season stats they showed a bit ago 6-1 w/ 2.2x ERA.

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        So ERA of 0 but a high WHIP (probably an error and had to throw a lot of extra pitches). Not sure we can deduct he’s bad or we have a huge pitching advantage from that or his slot in the rotation.

        According to this site, Gilbert was 6-1 with a 2.29 ERA, sub 1 WHIP, and over 1k per inning.
        http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp?P=caleb-gilbert

        Why do we have a huge pitching advantage? I view it as a wash at best. Gilbert has seen our guys and can make adjustments, so I’m not sure seeing him is reason to believe we have advantage.

        • blackbug says:
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          Drew has started at least 3 games this season.

          • angry angry says:
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            Has he? My bad. When I’ve seen him it’s been in relief.

          • Angry&angry says:
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            You also hadn’t heard of Steven Kwan, so how much have you really seeen?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Who is this Steven Kwan you speak of?

            Does he bat somewhere near Wong in the order?

        • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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          Drew Rasmussen was the 31st pick in the 2017 MLB draft. In contrast, Caleb Gilbert is a young pitcher with interesting potential, but who has had an up-and-down year.

          Drew is quite well-rested. In contrast, Caleb Gilbert threw 70 pitches on Monday against the Beavers. Gilbert will be coming back on 4 days rest to start tomorrow against the Beavers. Perhaps LSU will let Gilbert throw another 70 pitches tomorrow (although that seems like a lot). Last time, 70 pitches got Gilbert through 2.2 innings. How long can he go tomorrow?

          If Rasmussen runs out of gas, the OSU bullpen is well-rested, and stocked with good options. In contrast, after Gilbert is done pitching tomorrow, who else does LSU have? All three of LSU’s starting pitchers are unavailable to pitch tomorrow. Hess — LSU’s closer — could maybe pitch two innings, at most, tomorrow. As for the rest, of the LSU bullpen OSU saw most of them in the Monday game, and had little trouble with any of them.

          So, that’s why we have a significant pitching advantage tomorrow, or so it seems to me.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      It would be comical if it wasn’t so transparent, Florida is sucking up the place, so the announcers go off on a long tangent about LSU. Apparently they’ve won the CWS already! God, I hope it’s OSU vs TCU in the finals.

      • angry angry says:
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        What I’d like to know is what we can do about it. It exists. Everyone outside the SEC sees it clearly. Now what?

        • PDX Beav says:
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          Pac-16 is what I would like to see. That conference stands well with them, gets on DirecTV and has much more national exposure. Fold LHN into Pac Network for an ESPN 20% share and sell the other 20% to Fox. We keep 60% but have them also working for us.

          Could even live with another East division for a Pac-18 that brings along Kansas and TCU as well. I am cool with the Plains teams. They are much more likeable than SEC folk and would rather team up with some of them to take on the SEC then listen to how great they are from here to eternity.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            No.

            The LHN was a bad deal done by ESPN in order to keep Texas from joining the Pac. It was so bad, they had to fire hundreds of people about a month ago.

            And you want to give them 20%?

            Worse yet, you want to give Newscorp 20%?

  • angry angry says:
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    So this is how I see tomorrow playing out:

    LSU is a smart team, so they’ll know Drew is coming off TJ surgery and will try to get the pitch count up early. Lots of deep counts. If they then execute walks or hits from those deep counts Drew will be in a lot of trouble and have an early exit. Crowd and announcers will start to jizz for LSU and umps will roll with it and give them the calls. Beav fans think LSU’s guy is a dud because he’s the #4 starter, but his numbers are solid, and he did fairly well against them (considering an error hurt his pitch count) when he faced them. Beavs must feel “what if” after today’s game, and that will likely linger. Hard to just get over that thought process in 1 day. So I see LSU coming out fast with a game plan vs Drew and the Beavs lagging a bit. LSU will chip away a run here and there via tough ABs and Beavs will just drift further and further behind as the crowd, umps, LSU’s bench, etc all create a frenzy and things snowball out of control.

    I’m thinking something like 7-2 LSU.

    I really really hope I’m wrong because Casey/Jenkins not challenging that play is a heartbreaking way for, what should have been a NT season, to end. Rather get pounded by a superior team than have coaches/umpires decide the outcome. Just a really awful situation to be in, and personally it would take me several days to get over that, and I’m thinking many of the Beavs will feel the same. Especially with the LH situation still lingering (per reports above they are hated in Omaha). They have to be shot.

    Hope to be wrong.

    I’m very surprised people here think we’ll win tomorrow. I agreed and felt the Beavs were favorites in every game up until this point, but they have to be considered underdogs tomorrow (i.e. 56 wins/the past means nothing in a winner take all game).

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      “Beav fans think LSU’s guy is a dud because he’s the #4 starter, but his numbers are solid, and he did fairly well against them (considering an error hurt his pitch count) when he faced them.”

      I don’t think the guy is a dud.

      But, as noted above, Caleb Gilbert threw 70 pitches on Monday. That’s not a small # of pitches. He will be going tomorrow on only 4 days rest (which is not much at all for a young college pitcher who just threw 70 pitches earlier in the week). Odds are Gilbert won’t last long tomorrow.

      And then who does LSU send to the mound? THAT’s the big problem for LSU. Presumably, it will be the other guys who came out of the LSU bullpen during Monday’s game, and who were very ineffective (to say the least).

      LSU shot their wad today with Lange and Hess, who admittedly were excellent. Tomorrow promises to be a different story (unless OSU comes out in a complete funk — which is of course also possible, but seems unlikely, at least to me, given this team’s performance during the whole course of this remarkable season).

      Go Beavs!

      • angry angry says:
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        Fair enough. I fully understand the argument for the Beavs. Even when we lost LH vs Vandy I told youngorst I’d still take the Beavs and a Chevette! But in this case, I don’t feel that way. Probably because I put a lot of importance on the mental side, and I think that’s all with LSU after today’s transpirings.

        This is one of those situations where I pray I’m wrong.

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        I hope I’m right this time…..fuckin’ Beavs win tomorrow 5-3!!!!

      • Gobeavers92 says:
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        LSU has only scored 4 runs in 18 innings and I think we can make an argument that JT is the weak spot in our rotation right now. The bullpen has been saved/rested for this very game. The pen is rested and LOADED with great / proven arms. LSU on the other hand pitched a gem today and with what they have available tomorrow I don’t see them pitching that well 2 games in a row. All the arrows point to the Beavs winning easily tomorrow but this is baseball and anything can happen. Also this is the first MUST WIN game the Beavs have been in all season, will they embrace the challenge or wilt under the pressure they have not felt all season. In my opinion that’s what will dictate who wins and loses tomorrow. My gut says they dig deep and get it done.

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        The mental piece of the game is why OSU was able to have this crazy season. I’m not sure why Angry is so excited to point out Caseys has Warts. Case has put these guys in the right mindset all year, it is what he does. There is a difference between being a challenging fan and being a detractor.

        I felt this site was a great voice in challenging the status quo with Riley, but I think Angry is on the ledge with this one.

        • angry angry says:
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          Uh…he
          -didn’t challenge a 2 run double in the CWS that might cost them a NT.
          -Recruited a molester.
          -He’s also batted guys in inappropriate order in the lineup, at a key time of the year. e.g. Adley 4th or ever ahead of Gretler.

          These are objective errors/warts. Great coach but flawed.

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    At about 4:50 in the postgame tape, Casey responds to Moran’s question on whether the “intention is to throw Drew tomorrow”. What do ya make of Casey’s answer? A chance Drew doesn’t start but comes out of the pen?
    I don’t believe an official announcement has been publicized yet.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Aaron Fitt tweeting that the fire alarm went off just now in his hotel which is also the Oregon State team hotel. LSU fans have no shame…

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      Cool, so now we’ll be on no sleep.

      SEC cheating at an all time low.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Can someone tell me what time the game is tomorrow?

    • angry angry says:
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      12

      • them beavers them beavers says:
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        at least on a Sat. I don’t have to do work before it get hot, Warning for all those in the valley it should be 102 here today drink water,

  • WFO WFO says:
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    So just out of curiosity…

    This crew chief ump that not only blew the call but also shut down the chance for a booth replay…

    What’s his name, what conference does he umpire for during the regular season and where did he go to college?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    I’m certain that Casey took ownership in the locker room over not requesting that review. The team knows that the umps should have done it automatically, but really they squandered other opportunities.

    Look for this Beaver team to fight for their coaches today and pick them up after a tough loss on their way to the championship finals!

  • ReverendBeav says:
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    According to this tweet we have a 68% chance of winning today. No idea what formula is used to create his odds.

    NCAA Baseball Fans @NCAABSB 10h

    The BSB Advance Chance (BAC):

    Oregon State over LSU at (68%)

    TCU over Florida at (79%)

    (BAC) odds are:

    Oregon State vs TCU for #CWS ?

    • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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      Yale Sports Analytics (run by students there) has it much tighter for both games.

      OSU: 52.6% over LSU
      TCU: 54.8% over UF

      I’m surprised TCU is favored in both so far.

      https://twitter.com/YaleSportsGroup/status/878460702930939908

      • ReverendBeav says:
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        I’d probably put more faith in Yale analytics. I would have expected Florida to be favored also. However, according to the commentators last night TCU does have a couple of their better arms available tonight.

  • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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    LSU fans up to some of their dirty tricks…

    Fire alarm at 1 AM in the hotel?? Mmkay. Bring it on.— Andy Peterson (@AJ_Peterson1) June 24, 2017

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  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    I’ve never seen this rule before, but apparently Oregon State will be granted a 1 run handicap today because of the umpire error yesterday.

    https://tinyurl.com/1-run-handicap-for-OregonState

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